Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon

#193251: Sep 18th 2022 at 11:58:22 PM

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#193252: Sep 19th 2022 at 2:25:05 AM

Finally back from my vacation

First draft of my Jack the Ripper rework. Mainly looking for mistakes to correct

Jack the Ripper, Celestial Serial Killer (The Whitechapel Murderer, Assassin of Black, False Berserker, Humanity's Most Infamous Serial Killer, Red Jack (maybe), Calibraxis (in a manner of speaking), Edward Hyde, Mac heath, Dr. John Stevenson Angelina "Madame Red" Durless, Grell Sutcliff, the Renegade Assassin, Florence Nightingale, Jacob Packer Gaslight!Jim Gordon, Sebastian and countless other identities)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/75f32bdf92702ee1122161fc8dc147d1.jpg

^{Click here} for Jack's Servant incarnation.

^{Click here} for the form he took fighting for humanity.

Note: Rework
Intermediate God
Symbol: A bloodied knife with unidentified fingerprints
Theme Songs: His OSTs from Assassins Creed Syndicate, Fate Apocrypha and Record of Ragnarok
Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Portfolio: Possibly The Most Iconic Serial Killer out there With A Name To Match, His True Identity Remains A Mystery To This Day, Stock Unsolved Mysteries, The Dreaded, Probably Got Away With His Crimes...Or Her Crimes?, May Be a Demon, Vampire, or Whatever, Criminal Mind Games, Stock Unsolved Mysteries
Domains: Serial Killers, Brutality, Mutilation, Mystery, Victorian London
Possible identities: The Valeyard, Vandal Savage, Florence Nightingale, James Gordon (more specifically an Alternate Self)
- Reincarnation: Glenn Quagmire
Allies
- Fellow serial killers: Joker, Carnage, Yoshikage Kira, Spring trap, Johan Liebert, Hansel and Gretel, Edward "Eddie" Low, the Brave Companions, Freddy Krueger, Ramsay Bolton
- Other allies: Dio Brando, SCP-542, Count Dracula, Count Orlok, Desaad
On good terms with: The Boogeyman
Rivals: Hannibal Lecter, Patrick Bateman, Dr Jonathan Crane, Victor Zsasz
- Friendly Rivalry with: Professor Moriarty
Enemies
- Law enforcement and detectives: The House of Law and Justice as a whole, Bruce Wayne/Batman, Marv, James Gordon, Sherlock Holmes, Dr. Watson, Joe Swanson, Judge Dredd, Madame Vastra
- Fellow criminals: Frank Castle, The Slavers, Dexter Morgan, Gunvolt, John Doe, Light Yagami
- Other enemies: Every single prostitute without exception, Raiden, Jonathan Joestar, Robert E. O. Speedwagon, William A. Zeppeli, Maka Albarn, Soul Eater Evans, Sebastian Michaelis, Mordred, Karna, Achilles, Atalanta, Ezio Auditore da Firenze, Shay Patrick Cormac, The Interspecies Reviewers, John Constantine, The Phantom Stranger, The Doctor, Hercules
Drinking buddies with: Peter Griffin
Throughout human history there have been millions guilty of murder, and thousands who fall under the pathological Serial Killer role. The first modern serial killers include H.H.Holmes, and perhaps most infamously Jack the Ripper. True to his name he killed and mutilated five Whitechapel prostitutes in a manner both brutal and memorable. Though there have been worse serial killers before and after, Jack's true identity was never discovered and he held many of the traits common in infamous future serial killers. As such, he's the picture in the dictionary right next to Jack the Ripper. Well, if anyone knew who he was, of course.
As the true identity of Jack the Ripper has never been revealed, the Trope Pantheon's Jack is a walking amalgam of all his fictional incarnations. This is also the main reason why an ordinary human murder from the Victorian Age is an Intermediate God; many of his fictional iterations were far more impressive and fierce. As such the form of Jack either shifts between his different fictional identities, or simply resembles a shadow of a man in a Victorian top-hat. The closest to a true form he has is actually a her: a little street urchin assassin. This is a Servant under the Holy Grail system, and takes this form as the embodiment of all the abandoned children of Victorian England. This form of Jack isn't even the only incarnation in the Nasuverse; he has a Berserker form that is the embodiment of the legend of Jack the Ripper itself.
His female form can be seen hanging around with Hansel and Gretel. All three found comfort over the fact they had bad lives that turn them into killers. Many hope that their relationship is only platonic and not sexual. It is unknown how she feels about Florence Nightingale, since they're the same person in one universe , but it is known she is an enemy of Mordred, Karna, Achilles and Atalanta as they were on the opposing side of two magical factions. Many of her serial killer friends find "loli Jack" hard to take seriously and consider her motive of cutting up prostitutes for not being her mother figure kind of absurd^note. Despite their opinion, Fate's Jack might be the most effective incarnation yet.
Jack can change his form. This has its benefits, and disadvantages because each version comes with their own powers and weakness. For example, as his JoJo version, he has the strengths and weaknesses of a vampire zombie and can launch knives out of his body. His Fate versions can emit mist that can conceal her presence and make it easier to assassinate people or assume multiple identities to confuse his victims, transform into a colossal demon... or generate hundreds of demon bodies to attack with. Jack can even transform into Grell Sutcliff who was one half of Jack the Ripper with Angelina Durless as they killed prostitutes for getting abortions. A common theory in real life is that he was a member of/connected to the royal family, something Alan Moore had fun with even if he personally doesn't believe in it. Getting an autographed copy back from Jack the Ripper with a note was a lot less fun, though.
"Love your work, but you missed the part where I travelled to the seventies. Among other things...Best regards; Jack".
Some gods in the Trope Pantheon swear they've seen their face in Jack. Perhaps most shockingly was James Gordon, who is naturally disgusted upon learning even he had potential to be a monster. Others were all too happy to claim to be him. Vandal Savage claims the Whitechapel murders amongst his other historical crimes, though considering some of these crimes include "being Atilla the Hun and Blackbeard" or "aiding friggin Hitler" the murders are on the lesser end of how bad he can be. The Valeyard also was Jack, or became him in an attempt to fuel the Dark Matrix.
Possibly a cannibal if his note about having a victim's kidney for lunch is anything to go by. The Hall of Flesh Eaters think he just made up that part to look tough. Also, he might actually be Lord Blackwood. Because of this, both Sherlock and Dr. Watson are keeping a careful eye on him. The latter eventually fought him in Celebrity Deathmatch. Turns out, Jack sucks as a villain and was killed by Holmes. Of course, Holmes wasn't good as a hero at the same time. Unsurprisingly Sherlock is not the only detective who either has a history with him or wants to be involved in bringing him to justice. Famously Batman has dealt with him in an alternate timeline. Judge Dredd once fought Jack as well.
Jack is almost always presented as an Ax-Crazy killer, which isn't surprising. However with his true motives a mystery, not all forms of Jack act in a For the Evulz measure. Some like Gaslight Jim Gordon act in a He-Man Woman Hater fashion, and given his target it's not surprising. Others were offspring of prostitutes, putting their motives in a distinctly Freudian category. Regardless of the motive, Jack is blacklisted from every brothel and detested by every prostitute as they're his target. Given their job in visiting and reviewing monster girl hookers, the Interspecies Reviewers have sworn to beat the shit out of him should he be in eyesight. Marv wants to join them in that, as Jack's choice of victim and possible cannibalism reminds him of Kevin. The Slavers took a much more cynical stance against Jack the Ripper: he considers their forced prostitutes targets. Given what he is, the Punisher is just as interested in terminating him as he is the Slavers.
Seen as a rival towards Hannibal Lecter. It's not just a rivalry between serial killers, but also as rappers. Jack is still mad that he lost to him, and has come to scoff at Lecter's Wicked Cultured style. Most see their rivalry as a Slobs Versus Snobs. The very snobbish and elitist Patrick Bateman also considers Jack "an unwanted rival" because despite/because of their clear similarities, Patrick considers himself better and cultured over some butcher from dingy fog-torn London. Jack accurately pointed out that the only reasons Patrick pegs him as a lowborn slob are intense classism and more importantly he wants to be seen as more clever and high-class than he actually is. If he simply is imagining the violence, it's especially obvious.
Jack has a more light-hearted rivalry with Moriarty over the better criminal path to Fame Through Infamy; being "a living trigger warning" or "the Napoleon of crime". Moriarty has less of a need to prove himself so this is mainly an amusing sub-plot for him. The Scarecrow considers their rivalry "pointless" as he doesn't consider Jack all that special. He doesn't see himself as a butcher like Jack the Ripper or even a Serial Killer necessarily (though he kind of is) and decided to "knock him down a peg" by exposing Jack the Ripper to fear gas. What Jack witnessed was a confusing, ever-shifting set of hallucinations due to bringing out all his incarnations' worst fears at once. His response to this was one of pure rage.
Jack the Ripper: "I'm going to tear your guts out and stuff you with straw so you can live up to your name!"
Much to the House of Law and Justice's consernation there are plenty of serial killers who wanted to meet up with Jack the Ripper instead of butt heads. One of these was Johan Liebert, who kills people in a different way. Jack was impressed. The Joker, another fan of Jack, theorizes the collective madness of being a Composite Character is why John doesn't try to Kick The Son Of A Bitch. Carnage is another friend of Jack, and likes that he's more of a "hands-on" kind of guy. Another friend is William Afton/Springtrap, though he's more about giving advice to not get caught and using certain "technologies" since he targets children specifically. Unsurprisingly the Brave Companions want him on their team, something which Jack accepted for the money.
Despite the brutal mutilation of sex workers, there isn't any evidence he was also a rapist (though he may have gotten satisfaction from piquerism). This isn't to say he's above working with serial killer-rapist combos like Eddie Low. He does find it weird that like himself Eddie got away from law enforcement and instead ended his life as an Asshole Victim given his complete lack of social awareness, though he admits he's no pillar of sanity either. Another predator in more ways than one that Jack the Ripper gets along with is Freddy Krueger. The Springwood Slasher thinks he's the superior killer but he's still a fan of Jack. Due to his backstory, he would've held sympathy for some Jack backstories where he was an abused Son of a Whore. Of course, he doesn't even pretend like he feels sympathy so it's a moot point.
As seen with the Slavers and the Punisher, there are other murderers and criminals who clearly don't like him. He is considered the same kind of degenerate killer that Dexter Morgan is famous for killing, and Gunvolt feels he's cravenly despicable. Light Yagami really wants to write his name in the Death Note, but as he can't figure out his full/true name and what he truly looks like it hasn't worked out. Jack the Ripper thinks Kira is an absolute riot of a Hypocrite as even the worst estimates of his victims are a drop in the bucket compared to his kill list. Jack himself has stated he has no interest in the Death Note as it lacks "a personal touch". John Doe considers Jack scum despite being the same kind of person out of some deluded belief he's only doing it out of disordered sadism. The Whitechapel Murderer couldn't take that lying down.
Jack the Ripper: "Oi, you gotta be kidding me mate! YOU are trying to have the moral high ground? What makes you so better; your batshit religious work? I enjoy my work too but I'm not a pretentious asshole about it! Now I'm not an expert in theology mate, but tell me what's the bigger insult to God: the Seven Deadly Sins, or violating one of His commandments in His name?!"
Still hasn't forgotten the time Jonathan Joestar use his Ripple to destroy his head. For those confused, Dio Brando had vampirized Jack shortly after his murders to serve under him. Jack knows Dio is even worse than he is, and embraces his gift. Coincidentally another vampire may have driven him to his homicidal madness; none other than Dracula himself. The Count has found good use in Jack taking his different forms and distract English officials for his own schemes of "taking up nest". Count Orlok hires him out for the same reason, but is more focused on the bloodbath that Jack causes. Another supernatural force who has given some support to Jack is the Boogeyman. He doesn't help out as much as Dracula or Orlok, but Jack spreads fear for him.
Other gods who have "had a go at dear Jack" include Maka and Soul, Sebastian, and Madame Vastra. The last one is notable in that she ATE him. This being the Whoniverse there are other accounts that contradict this...like the Valeyard thing. Both in real life and fiction-land, people are starting to wonder if more than one person was behind the murders. Even the Doctor can't keep things straight. There are even theories that go the opposite direction and say another infamous serial killer, H.H Holmes was also Jack the Ripper. A more popular theory, that being he was a physician, led to SCP-542 getting along with him. He wanted to tutor Jack on being a better "vivisector" when removing organs, as he finds them too "useful".
Shockingly, or perhaps unsurprisingly, Jack has revealed that he is a former member of the Assassin's Brotherhood and his killings were not all completely random. His mother, a former assassin herself, was brutally murdered in front of him when he was young and it shattered his mind. He believes that the Brotherhood has grown soft and seeks to show the world why the Brotherhood are what they are with fear. This doesn't sit well with either Ezio Auditore or Shay Cormac, especially Shay who clams that is just another assassin who doesn't deserve to exist. Jack's response? "Ello Pot. The name's Kettle."
Surprisingly for all his evil, even Jack is capable of acting in the name of good. When the gods fight among men to decide their fate he served as the Token Evil Teammate to the Einherjer and fought for humanity despite them hating him. He fought and defeated Hercules, however because of his love for all humanity even he could not hate Jack. He also has a heroic reincarnation, Adam Miurhead. They still have the same love for knives though. However he has a more nefarious reincarnation in Glenn Quagmire. Though a rapist, Quagmire isn't comfortable with Jack's butchery. Their connection led to Jack showing up in the darker cutaway gags. Peter mistakes him for Quagmire, but Jack goes along with it for a good drink at the Clam. Joe was naturally incensed that even for him, Peter would do something so stupid.
The potential for good may be because Jack was possessed by the demon Calibraxis and thus wasn't responsible for his murderous actions...but only in that timeline, despite his claims to the contrary. And John Constantine still couldn't care if he's demon or human. Another attempt to dodge responsibility is pointing out he's a "balancing act" to stop a child of Jason Blood/Etrigan from coming to term. The Phantom Strange scoffs at his attempt to justify his behavior, and he arranged for his death to clean house. He also pointed out that in a Wonder Woman Elseworld he became a mad king of a misogynistic dystopia England. He may have turned into a Cenobite as well.
The Hall of Genetic Engineering has a rule against cloning Hitler, and they also have a rule against cloning Jack the Ripper. To condense a long story, Project Cadmus wanted to analyze his DNA to put the debate on who Jack was to bed, but their resident Mad Scientist decided it would be a great idea to use it to clone Jack into the genetic monstrosity Ripjack. The SCP Foundation agrees with this sentiment, and they also want people to stop bothering them over asking if Jack is an SCP; he's not, despite his alliance with Herr Chirurg. Lionel Starkweather found all of this attention amusing and wants to film Jack's antics for his snuff films. Jack would prefer not to get involved in his "filmography"; he's made his name never getting caught, and being a "movie star" could throw a monkey wrench into that.
Jack the Ripper is well-aware that people in both fiction and reality have copied his work. Some of them have more deaths to their name. Victor Zsasz, who's personally listed far more victims down than Jack could've dreamed of, feels that Jack is an amateur and doesn't get why he gets to be the pantheon's representative for Serial Killer outside of being historically "iconic". How did Jack feel about this criticism?

""Ninety years ago I was a freak. Today I'm an amateur.."."

Ramsay Bolton and Desaad aren't that impressed by Jack the Ripper either, but they still gets along with Jack. It's more that they believe he could take more time to bask in his craft. Jack gets "their kink", but points out he doesn't want to get caught "having fun". The drier serial killer Yoshikage Kira agrees with this approach and is happy to help Jack, if it means Jack will cut off "pretty hands" for the Stand user.

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

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#193253: Sep 19th 2022 at 11:47:22 AM

When it comes to Jack, it could be fun to mention that there was another Jack that seemingly used to terrorised London, namely Spring-Heeled Jack and how people used to the stories about him, turning him into an urban legend. What would the Ripper think, regarding the fact that there used to be an infamous Jack before him and how now he's the one who's more infamous.

Beta draft for the Sullivan family. Been meaning to write their profile for quite a while, but yeah, I've had my series of delays for various reasons.

For particular suggestions, I'm looking for families or individuals who had a difficult time settling down in a new place after leaving their old one, in addition to struggling with rent with their apartment. Also, any families (or parents) who lost their child (their son died from a brain tumor) and struggle in dealing with that loss. On a smaller note, any stage actors and cab drivers that Johnny could meet, and anyone who believes in wishes for Christie. Placeholder paragraphs below the profile might give out potential ideas for y'all to suggest.

Per usual, any other comments and suggestions for the profile are welcome.

Prototype Mode

Johnny, Sarah, Christy, and Ariel Sullivan, Divine Family of Intimidating Big City Experiences

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From Left-to-Right; Christy, Sarah, Ariel, and Johnny.

Quasideities
Symbol: Christy's Camera and a plush E.T. Toy
Theme Song: Some Things You Should Wish For, Time Enough for Tears by The Corrs (written by Bono and Gavin Friday)
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio:
- The Family: Have Trouble Arriving and Adjusting in New York City due to their Upbringing in Rural Ireland, Culture Clash
- Johnny and Sarah: Parents Struggling to find Jobs and being Flawed are Parenting despite Loving their Daughters
- Christy and Ariel: In-Universe Camera, Wise Beyond Their Years, Rarely Genuinely Smiling (Christy), Always Keeping with her Innocence, Mostly Maintains an Optimistic Side, Mouthy Kid (Ariel)
Domains: Family, Cities, Culture, Struggle, Loss
Heralds: Mateo Kuamey, The Family's Third Daughter (has "Mateo" as a Middle Name)
Allies: E.T., Lemony Snicket, The Baudelaire Trio, Hilda,
Opposes: Count Olaf, Travis Bickle
The Sullivan Family was once a family of five from Dublin, Ireland, leading an ordinary life. That is until the family's only son, Frankie, died from a brain tumor, devastating the family. To start anew, the remaining four members decide to relocate to New York City, though there, they faced a new challenge with the city's chaotic nature and unpredictability as well as its people usually ranging from indifferent to demeaning and living under a dilapidated apartment room. Despite this, the family persists in spite of their growing issues and Dysfunctionality, with the family's two daughters, Christy and Ariel managing to befriend their apartment neighbor, Mateo Kuamey, who despite his intimidating appearance, is rather friendly and willing to support the Sullivans, despite father Johnny's former suspicions. Things get complicated when the mother, Sarah, becomes pregnant, though her ongoing grief with losing her son still troubles her as well as her marriage with Johnny, especially when the child's birth becomes a complicated matter as well as Mateo dying from AIDS. Sarah gives birth to a third daughter but is weak and frail, so Christie volunteers to have a blood transfusion to save her newest sister's life. The baby is saved, though not without Mateo dying from his disease after one last prayer to the Sullivans and the baby being dubbed "Mateo" as her middle name. The baby's birth allowed Johnny and Sarah to overcome their grief of losing Frankie and settle down in NYC with their three daughters, with Christy musing about looking out for Mateo in the night sky.
Since their story, the Sullivans have done the best they can to immerse themselves in New York and make the most of it in spite of the difficult situations that came with a city this surprising and unpredictable. Having caught the attention of the Pantheon, the high realms of a collective series of deities felt that the Sullivans had a wondrous story and they were fitting to join their ranks, which eventually came in the form of Johnny receiving a mail post from someone claiming to be from the Pantheon and that he and his family were appointed as deities to represent the challenges of coming to and living in a big city. The family had differing thoughts, with Johnny and Sarah being humble about the message, Christy being happy about being acknowledged albeit reserved and unsure, and Ariel expressing the most excitement about meeting with new people and seeing new places. Thankfully, the family were permitted to keep their residency as they worried that the whole ascension thing may have forced them to leave, but for Christy and Ariel's sake, Johnny and Sarah have made an effort to traverse and see the Pantheon on occasion to make their daughters happy.
The Sullivans are an ordinary family of four and are just as relatable as any other family you would come across, with both parents and children having their share of difficulties and struggles that they deal with in everyday life, such as working in a job to provide for the other members and having to go to school to study and socialize. It's for these reasons that the Pantheon was seen in such a fantastical light, especially in the eyes of Ariel and Christie who were blown away and in awe with what the higher realms had to provide, though Johnny and Sarah, although surprises, understandably were concerned and cautious of their daughters, knowing that the Pantheon can be unpredictable and they themselves are unsure of how safe or dangerous the realms can be. To their fortune, their new friends in the Pantheon may make them feel secure and safe, in addition to providing some comfort and happiness. Of course, there are some things and information about the Sullivans that make them distinctive enough from other families in the Pantheon.
(Outliving One's Offspring and Grief from that)
(Kids who Lost a Sibling)
(Trying a New Child + Difficulties)
(Difficulty Adjusting in Large City + Culture Clash)
- (NYC)
(Fallen-on-Hard-Times Job [preferably stage actors and cab drivers])
(Christie and Ariel + Documenting One's Life)
(Wishes)

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 19th 2022 at 7:52:42 PM

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#193254: Sep 19th 2022 at 12:42:09 PM

Taxi drivers include Travis Bickle, the West Coast Cabbies and Takuto Maruki (was formerly a high school counselor).

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

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Resident Trope Lurker

#193255: Sep 19th 2022 at 7:39:25 PM

@RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

Looks good but right now it's more about his depictions, but not enough about the actual Victorian human killer (which is likely his default form). How do you think he copes with that as a Victorian person?
With improved technologies and forensic techniques, do you think he would get caught?
Being a small fry outclassed 100-fold as mentioned before, do you think he would kill again, brag/taunt the police without killing or keep a low profile (like he likely done irl)?

@CrimsonShark

Outliving One's Offspring - check their entries from this trope page for more info
- React with sadness and acceptance via adoptive child - Iroh, Joe Bucket, Martian Man Hunter (Supergirl (2015) version)
- React with anger or revenge - Kratos^notehe gets better tho, Rameses, Flashpoint!Thomas Wayne
- React by being overprotective - Marlin^notehave someone else tell his story
Stage Performers - Baby and Johnny, Nina Sayers, The Muppets, Danny & Sawyer
Believer in wishes - Charlotte, Tiana ^note, Pino cchio
Other interactions:
- Jigsaw - Started putting traps on people after he had brain and colon cancer, for people to know how to appreciate life like he does. Considering they have brain tumors as the main catalyst for their main conflict, I still think it is a neat addition to the profile.
- Kayla Day - she seems to be the same age as the girls, she post self-help videos

I'm gonna post by revised Beatles post (with new clear profile pic) as I think the length is okay kinda, tho I'm open to delete at max two flavor texts if it's still too long. It's missing a few IRL fans (which I can research) and final proofreading and then it's done. I also have additional proposals for them:

Gods of The British Invasion - Their second title and probably new main title. Arguably the arrival of the Band and their music in the US marks the start and explosion of the US's fascination with British imported music in the 60's (and British Media in general). After doing a ton of research, I feel like their current trope title doesn't convey how the Band, their history and their music affected modern media.
- If the above is rejected, an alternative would be God of Genre Turning Points as their mainstream presence not only caused an interest in British music, but also made rock it's own genre and also changed how record label became profitable business
Moving into the House of Musicality House - They were originality in the Main Music house and presumable removed for how their profile is lacking a lot of stuff. Do you think it is time for them to come back now that they have more? Also, if they do, I was think of giving them the "Experimental" title as they do add varying styles from different genres for each album besides their last one.
- A third option is to dethrone Bill and Ted for Rock since their profile is lacking but I like their presence there.

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The Beatles

The Beatles, Influential Deities of Those Who Perform Live From The Rooftops (The Fab Four, The Young Lads, The Boys From Liverpool, A Four-Headed Monster, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band | John: The Smart One, Lennie | Paul: The Cute One, Macca | George: The Quiet One, Hazza | Ringo: The Funny One, Rings, Richie, Billy Shears)

L-R: George Harrison, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Ringo Starr.

^{Their Early Career Look}

^{As Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band}

^{Performing On The Rooftops}

^{View Above The Rooftops}

Lesser Deities (doesn't believe in their own godhood, arguably had the world changing influence of Greater Deities)
Returning House: Singers and Performers
Symbol: Drum logo reading "The Beatles" or the Yellow Submarine.
Signature Song: Too many to choose from but here's a select few: "Hey Jude", "Yesterday", "Here Comes The Sun", "Let It Be", "All You Need is Love", "Blackbird", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "In My Life", "Come Together", "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "She Loves You"
- As Solo Artists: "Imagine" (John) "Maybe I’m Amazed" (Paul) "My Sweet Lord" (George) "Photograph" (Ringo)
Alignment: True Neutral
Members: John Lennon, Sir Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Sir Richard "Ringo Starr" Starkey
Portfolio: Pioneering Artistry, Breakaway Pop Hits, Genre Turning Points, The British Invasion, Snarking, Silly Love Songs, and too many others to list. Broke-up due to Creative Differences, Did their own Solo Projects, Reunited Briefly after the break-up.
Domains: Music, Craft, Emotion, Liberation, Trade
Heralds: Brian Epstein (their late manager), Pete Best, their respective loved ones
Followers: JAM Project, Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones, Oasis, etc.
Allies:
- Musical Allies ^note: Houkago Tea Time, Metallica, Green Day, Wee zer, Freddie Mercury, Pink Floyd, Gorillaz, "Weird Al" Yankovic, Candace Flynn, Phineas Flynn, Ferb Fletcher, The Muppets
- Non-Musical Allies ^note: The Doctor^note, James Bond, The Powerpuff Girls, Jonathan Joestar, The Guru, Stanley Kubrick, Steven Spielberg, Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, The Chos en Four, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, Pinky, Pinkie Pie, Cookie Monster, Avatar Aang, House of Defense
- Individual Allies ^noteThey are more aligned with one specific member but they can be amicable with other members too:
  - John: David Bowie, EpicLloyd, NicePeter, Frasier Crane, Snow White (Disney), Alice Liddell/Kingsleigh, The March Sisters, Vincent Van Gogh, Ludwig van Beethoven, Avatar Korra
  - Paul: Lisa Simpson, Jerrica Benton, Liz Lemon, Dumbo, Bambi, Flutter shy, Frodo Baggins
  - George: Ganesha, Karna, Rama, Sita, Symmetra, The Great Tiger, Brian Cohen, Gandalf
  - Ringo: Thomas the Tank Engine, George Carlin, Merlin, Wakko Warner, Loana, Sam Gamgee
Enemies: Annie Wilkes, Eric Raymond, YHVH, Chuck Shurley, Big Brother, O'Brien, Mola Ram, Shere Khan, Mojo Jojo, Princess Morbucks, HIM, Richard Nixon's Head
Friendly Rivalry with: Elvis Presley
Fans and Admirers: Mafalda, Aqo urs, Betty Cooper, Veronica Lodge, Joseph Joestar, SiIvaGunner, Ferris Bueller, The Satellite of Love Crew, The New Directions Glee Club, Ned Flanders, Stewie Griffin (All of them) Marge Simpson (All of them but mostly for Ringo)
On Good Terms with: Sabrina Spellman, Asterix, Obelix, Mowgli, Baloo, Heinz Doofenshmirtz, Lilo Pelekai, Stitch, Lucy Steel, Jojo Betzler, Fred Flintstone, Some Good Aligned Members of Middle-Earth, Gerald Ford, Krusty the Clown (All of them) Will and Elizabeth Turner (Paul) Homer Simpson (George)
Respects: Various Top Gods like The Love That Moves the Stars, God (God, Devil and Bob), God (Bruce Almighty), The One Above All, Eru Ilúvatar, and Vishnu
Respected by: House of Love and Affection, House of Friendship and Camaraderie
Opposes: The Warmogerers of House of Military and Warfare, Most Members of House of Hatred and Rancor and House of Slaughter, Col. Benjamin Cameron, Captain Beatty, Napoleon, Ghiaccio, Anyone who misinterprets their words and lyrics to harm and hate (All of them) Dorian Gray (John) Magneto (Paul) Kumbhakarna, The Black Knight, The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog (George) Count Dracula and all his other versions, Victor Frankenstein (Ringo)
Opposed by: Conservative Christians of the House of Religion and Faith, J. R. R. Tolkien
Pities: Victims of War (especially the Vietnam War), Victims of Violence (especially of Gun Violence and Home Invasion), The Curtis Gang, Killer B (All of them) Smeagol and Gollum (John) Withnail (George)
Pitied by: Archie Andrews (All of them) Abraham Lincoln, JFK, Teddy Roosevelt (John & George)
Complicated Relations with: Non-Conservative Christians of the House of Religion and Faith, B.J. Blazkowicz (All of them) Holden Caulfield (John) Michael Jackson (Paul)
Conflicted Opinion on: The Friend, The Brain, Peter Griffin (All of them) Bojack Horseman (Paul)
Feared by: Grace Adler
Annoys: Rocket Raccon, Rigby, Dr. Ivo Robotnik aka Dr. Eggman
Appeared in Sgt. Pepper Cover: Albert Einstein, Carl Jung, H.G. Wells
The Beatles was one of the most successful and influential music groups of the 1960’s following their formation. Consisting of John Lennon, George Harrison, Paul McCartney, and Ringo Starr (the latter of whom replaced Paul Best, a member of the band during their early years), the band has put out many successful songs and albums, starred in a couple of movies, and received a couple of cartoons featuring their likenesses. The band had its share of ups-and-downs and eventually, the group disbanded in 1970 due to internal conflicts with each other and they all pursued their own solo musical careers. No matter what happened good or bad to the band and its members, The Beatles remained a strong influence on other musicians that came after them and media centered on them and their work (whether its fictional stories or documentaries) continues to get made.
Applies to the group or at least two members:
- The first one to ascend was John after his murder by a mentally unstable fan in December 1980. A strange case occur during his title picking as system wasn't able to get one due to the records were coming up as "Incomplete" for him. The second one was George who died of lung cancer in November 2001 and appeared near Vishu's temple once he ascended. While it was initially tense when they reunite due to previous animosities, John and George had since made a conscious effort to mend their friendship after expressing sadness for each other's unfortunate deaths. The third and fourth one was Paul and Ringo, who were teleported sometime during the new 10's from their respective residences to a familiar rooftop on a cloudy day and transforming into their younger selves. Though confused and shocked, the two were happy to finally reunite with their long-deceased mates in this strange world, whatever remaining grievances they had in the past must have been washed away years ago.
  - When summoned for their Title choosing, The Band was informed by Court of Gods that the John and George's title glitch was now fixed by summoning Paul and Ringo into this place. As the Band don't feel like arguing with each other, they instead requested to randomized their long list of titles given to them and go with whichever it picked. The randomizer got God of Rooftop Concerts, which seems fitting as this is the last time they publicly performed together. While Paul and Ringo didn't think of that event as anything special, The Fab Four all agreed to take the title as a symbol of their renewed friendship. The Band then decided to celebrated being conferred their status with a Rooftop Concert, as they feel grateful to whoever is responsible in bring John and George back to life. On the day of their concert, the areas around the building where they are playing were packed to the brim with so many screaming people that one of the concert goers, Tim my, had wished to his fairies to mute the crowd during the whole concert. Originally, the Band played a one and a-half-hour setlist before extending it to two and a half hours due to encore requests, which is not their normal touring routine but they kept playing on as they kept looking and are fascinated by the various fantastical beings and creatures that shown up down the street, on the adjacent rooftops and up above them. Besides some protestors outside the Music Hall, the concert went well without incident much to the Band's relief.
- On their first week after their successful concert, they were visited by a few deities who shared their rooftop stories, which the Band finds interesting, except for George who borely remarks that "It's Been Done.", but even he was interested in these next 3 stories. Sabrina, the teenage witch, shared how their band Flavor Babes reunited by doing a rooftop performance after they temporarily broke up due to their clashing egos caused by their rockstar-making spell. The Boys from Liverpool find it very relatable, even if the Band find that the Flavor Babes played very terribly without magic. The Band feel bad for Killer B, Ninja God of Gratuitous Rapping, after being drop-kicked from his rooftop performance by his brother A, because the latter was not pleased that he was performing in the middle of an alliance meeting. The Reformed Members were touched by TriState Area residents Phineas, Ferb, and Candace's told the story about how they found their lost pet Perry by playing music on the rooftop in the hope that he can hear it and come back to them, although they did question where their parents were during all this.
  Lennon: Aren't you a little too young to be performing on top of a building unsupervised?
  Phineas: Yes, yes we were.
- No one is bigger than they are in the domain of Music, as such they are very well liked by the House of Music and even its most evil aligned members have a begrudging respect or slight jealousy for them. Bands like Pink Floyd, Queen, Metallica, Green Day, Weezer, and Gorillaz, who are either inspired by them or looked up to them with respect, are one of their closest allies. Weird Al, of course, has made of parodies of their songs, and he's friends with Paul having after doing an weird interview with him. The Fab Four also used to be one of the "The Master Composers" before deciding to forfeit their positions due to their busy schedule. This allowed the highschool band Houkago Tea Time a chance to apply for newly formed "The Divine Music Genre Artists". The Girls get along well with The Beatles due to their similar temperaments and musical quirks, thought, it's debated which members are based on each Beatle (you can find some two examples here). Regardless, it's agreed that Paul and Mio are the ones that get along the most, they are both left-handed bass players who like to write silly love songs. The Boys from Liverpool wholeheartedly supported the Girls from Sakuragoaka's positions in the main Music House.
- The Beatles were not surprised that are various fans and admirers of their music in the Pantheon. Their biggest fan is a sarcastic child named Mafalda. The Fab Four gave them this photo of them holding her picture after learning that she fainted upon seeing them (she loved it). The girls of Riverdale Betty and Veronica have been fans of theirs since the height of Beatlemania but since they don't age and on a sliding timeline, you don't notice this at first. Aqours, a highschool idol group, are admirers of their music and they even have plans to make a Beatles tribute performance on a rooftop. The New Directions Glee Club are familiar with them as they were given a two-week assignment to cover their songs, which they sang to express their frustrations in their lives and their romantic feelings for the others. Due to learning that their mortal Superior is a Beatles fan, that their world is filled with occasional references to their music, and even sometimes named after them in their original language, The Chosen Four from Eagleland got along very well with The Fab Four.
  - There were quite a lot of non-musician guys who like their music too! The Movie Riffers from The Satellite of Love Crew references and quotes the Beatles so often that one follower listed a bunch of them. SiIvaGunner, a Divine Collective who identifies as one male, likes the Band a lot that he posts his High-Quality Rips of their music to his YouTube channel. While the Fab Four likely don't approve of bootleggers of their music, they are perplexed on why it sounded a bit off and different. High-schooler Ferris Bueller who once skipped school, went on a parade to passionately lip-syncing performed to "Twist and Shout" with everyone around him gleefully dancing to the music. James Bond is obviously a fan, given one of them (Paul) wrote "Live and Let Die" and another (Ringo) is married to Agent XXX. However, he prefers to only meet them when screaming crowds aren't present - 007 once said "That's as bad as listening to The Beatles without earmuffs" for a reason!
- Their first Pantheon performance made them consider exploring the various Houses for a non-musical related trip. When they do, they always have security guards with them, would be wear some protective technology or just wear a disguise (which they used to do in their early careers). They understandly have fears of travelling as while everyone knows of John's death, not a lot of people know that George once survived an attack in his residence by a mentally unstable fan. When US Presidents Lincoln, Kennedy, Roosevelt, Ford, all of them experienced public assassination or attempts in their careers, wrote letters to both John and George about their own experiences in the Pantheon and reassure them that some of its heroic deities would protected despite the increase dangers, it eased their fears a bit. Only Ford is aware of the band when he was a mortal and he even personally visited their temple a few weeks after George ascended. While Nixon also had kill attempts during his term, he never contracted the Band, mostly because he opposed them in real life but also because his revived head hates their guts.
- The area around their temple looks like a typical small and relatively quiet Liverpool-like city distinct with old brick buildings, several trees, and a cloudy sky. Their actual temple looks like the front of the Apple Corp building, with 4 floors for each Beatle and their heralds to stay in, has high tech recording studio in the basement, and of course, a rooftop, which where their reunion and first Pantheon concert happened. Absolutely no outsiders is allowed inside their temple unless you were appointed or let in by one of the Beatles themselves. The temple and its immediate area are some of the most secured and highly guarded in the entire House of Musicality. It's not that they are afraid of dying, but they are all afraid of being violently attacked, kidnapped or tortured for any reason. Annie Wilkes, Goddess of Loony Fans, and all of her followers are absolutely not allowed within several kilometers from their area, despite not having stated any opinions on the band herself. There are a lot of small-numbered floored buildings around the temple which are used for fan meet-ups or musical sessions or if one decides to do a rooftop concert of their own, with the Band's only request is to not make their music too loud while they have guests over.
- Like most deities, The Beatles have "default" look which is in their late 30's and early 40's (around the same age John passed away), but can also shift ages and outfits from time to time. Both John and George had tried to age themselves to match the ages of their surviving members but they switch back shortly as they sometimes get overwhelming sadness about the years they have lost. Although their older selves don't like shifting into their younger 20's selves that much because of their mature mindset, they would occasionally shift into this form, complete with their Mop-top and suits, with the side effect that their mindset also changes that they can act jokey, carefree and free-spirited, similar to their fictional characterization in movies like "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help!". They can also be seen in other outfits as well like Sgt. Pepper's outfit (where they are treated as if they are another band) or their Magical Mystery Tour outfits. To shift to a different topic, they are also without any supernatural powers of their own and if you bought up that they had one while being stuck on other planets, they would give you looks of confusion. Also, they request to stop giving them LSD, they are done with that lifestyle.
- While initially weirded out by this, The Band befriended deities who recognized their similar look in other worlds. Asterix and Obelix told them about a popular group of bards◊ during their visit to Britannia. After learning their likeness to a musical group of 4 insects, the Band and Cookie Monster gladly performed a cover of this song with him at a Pantheon charity concert. While no longer with the travelling band that resembles at least three of them, Pinkie Pie is still on good terms with the human Young Lads. The simple-minded lab mouse Pinky get along with the Fab Four just fine due to looking like another Liverpudlian band from their world. The scheming lab mouse The Brain fears that Pinky's new friendship may distract him from their world taking schemes, while the Band are a bit unsure of The Brain's world taking motivations due to having noble intentions of wanting a better world. Reminded of the four rockstars he used to train with, The Guru of the Stone agreed to teach the Band the peaceful magic called Dreamtime after they expressed their curiosity about it. Fred Flinstone, when hearing their "Bug Music", told them of the time he, his wife and neighbors pretended to be in a band to annoy their irritating guests off their house, which the Band finds his story amusing.
  - Their likeness brings unexpected dangers too. An tiger named Shere Khan was found stalking their temple with murderous looks in his eyes. He left when a South Asian boy with a torch and a black bear came to shoo him away, and the pair, named Mowgli and Baloo, explained to the the Band that the tiger must have been stalking them due to how similar they look to the vultures that helped defeat him. The Band thanked both of them and later install fire lanterns due to learning the tiger's fear of it. They would later be harassed by 3/4 of The Beat-Alls, consisting of Mojo, Princess and HIM, who the villains claim that the Band stole a lot of their ideas from them. The Powerpuff Girls would kick these villains of course and later grew to befriend this "dumb old band"(especially Ringo, who admits to wishing to be a Powerpuff himself) and promised to be vigilant in case Fuzzy's ascension would cause an unwanted band reunion. B.J. Blazkowicz admits that he's a bit wary of them due to mistaking them to a band who sing Nazi propaganda songs. The Band says its not theirs as they only rerecorded at least two of their songs in German to appeal to their country. While The Fab Four were glad Jojo Betzler likes their German music and was able to turn his ideals around, they politely asked him to stop making comparisons between Beatlemania and Nazism.
- The protesters during their first rooftop concert were actually selected Christian of the House of Religion and Faith and other Christian deities in the Pantheon, who argued that John proclaiming that he was bigger than Jesus himself is enough to get the band kicked out of the Pantheon for their blasphemy, or at least banned from coming into their House. This peeved John and he argues to the protestors picketing outside their temple one day that: 1) It's incorrectly worded and was not about comparing himself with Christ but was attempting to explain the decline of Christianity in the UK 2) He had already issued an apology (even if he believes he was just expressing his opinion). 3) He doesn't have a problem with Jesus himself and even convert back to Christianity few years before passing.^note 4) He finds the protests insensitive when his killer cites his bloody comment as one of his murder "excuses". That last statement stopped their protest, some started feeing pity about John's passing or feared being lumped with a killer. Since then, there were fewer protests around their temple, mostly from some conservative deities who still think the Band disrespects Christian or Traditional values. The Band also express that they aren't that offended if other deities make references to that statement.
- The Fab Four didn't know what surprised them more; that both Abrambic God and Hindu Gods exist in physical form, that there are multiple versions of them, or that they co-living in the Pantheon. For context, all members used to have Catholic/Protestant backgrounds before embracing other religious beliefs alongside Christianity (besides Paul who seems agnostic still). Most good aligned Top Gods the Band encounters are pretty understanding and chill with them, including His Highest Joy, The God That Bob Knows, The God That Bruce Knows, The One Above All, Eru Ilúvatar and the Hindu God Vishnu (who sometimes appears in one of his avatars Krishna). As an Hare Krishna follower, George has huge respect for Vishnu, who in turn would gladly help the Band if they needed protection or guidance. The few Top Gods they have a problem with is YHVH, who wishes to smite the Band for John's assertions that his influence is decreasing or being jealous that they are more popular than him, and the God who calls himself Chuck Shurley, who treats his world as if it was an original novel and they don't like the idea that their personal tragedies are there for his entertainment only, not caring whether he's a music fan or not.
- The Beatles are known for advocating for Peace and Love, which they started after learning about the horrors of the Vietnam War, and have several songs dedicated to these ideals. They were horrified by the Pantheon's Forever War and even thought Death Is Cheap here, there's still suffering everywhere. That said, The Band do give kudos to the GUAG for their good-aligned goals of peace and justice, and to the GUAN for protecting animal kind and nature in general. They also oppose any hateful, violent, or warmongering deities, mostly found in the Houses of Military & Warfare, Hatred & Rancor and Slaughter, with special hatred goes to Big Brother and his loyal mole O'Brien, being an anthesis for their ideals and for maintaining a perpetual war in their world, as well as the animal-oppressing pig Napoleon. Big Brother would like to break them but their celebrity status and high security would make them hard to reach, while Napoleon is not assumed when told that "Piggies" was likely inspired by him. Due to this stance, they are considered honorary members of the Houses of Love and Affection and Friendship and Camaraderie, with "All You Need Is Love" playing at certain peace rallies there.
- The Band also has some beef with a few of the deities and the titles they represent. Being no stranger to the shady Music Industry, The Band don't like the shrewd music executive Eric Raymond, who in turn, has seething jealously of their success and plans to take them down one day. Being reminded of the burnings of their records, the Band would also oppose Captain Beatty, who in turn, is wary of the information spreading power of music, and this burning incident gave him some interesting ideas. The House of Musicality is well prepared should fires start to break out there. Due to their not-good experiences with The Klan, they also oppose Col. Cameron, a Deity who represents them. Being a conservative Christian, Cameron opposes the Band simply because he agreed with the modern Klansmen's opinions on the Band's perceived blasphemy. After The Trollkaigers invited him to a screening of "Help!", Mola Ram was outraged by their mockery of his religion and swore to sacrifice The Band to appease Kali. This offended the Band because it was during the filming of Help! that their interest in Indian culture started, and they feel like they have more respect for the culture than The Head of the Thuggees ever could.
- The Doctor and The Beatles recently got reacquainted with each other as they have a long history together spanning back to The Time Lord's first incarnation. The Band are aware of The Doctor's past as a solider and while they oppose his War incarnation, they acknowledge that The Time Lord has saved a lot of people too, and wasn't a warmonger but another victim of War. During a friendly meeting one day, John, out of the blue, asked The Time Lord if there was a way to prevent his death via time travel, to which the room fell silent. The Doctor calmly told them about fixed events as he briefly tells them of the story when one of his companions "tried" to fix the death of her father. While The Band were saddened by this story, The Doctor tried to comfort them by sharing about other timelines where John could have lived, like a curious incident when due to a strange blackout, only a few people can remember the Band. The Fab Four's curiosity grew a bit and the Doctor also told of worlds where they never broke up, other people tried to save John, gained an actual fifth Beatles etc. and there are even some books about these stories. The Band made a mental note to read these books from the House of Knowledge in their free time.
- The Young Lads are well aware of the reason English author J. R. R. Tolkien's hatred of them is because he hated hearing the noise some Beatles wannabe band would make near his residence. While there's no information if he held any personal grudges with the Band itself, it's speculated that's why his estate rejected their offer of adapting one of his beloved books. According to the mortal director Peter Jackson, they had this plan back in 1968 to adapt The Lord of the Rings and even approached Stanley Kubrick to direct the film. John wanted to play Gollum, Paul would play Frodo, Ringo would take on Sam, and George would have bearded up to play Gandalf. Paul has seen Jackson's version but laments that it could needed more Beatles tracks. Either way, they seem to be on good terms with most of Tolkien's creations since the beings from Middle-Earth don't have a real grudge against them. The Band also allied with the characters they are supposed to play as, since they each felt flattered by their gesture of wanting to embody their journeys, except for Gollum, who John pities for the hobbit's obsession with the One Ring. The Band and Kubrick, along Steven Spielberg, who is a big Beatles fan, were recently seen togther, leading to rumors that they are working on other book adaptation of some kind.
- Learning about Paul's trip to Graceland made the other Beatles reminisce about Elvis in his prime and they eventually made friends with other Elvis fans as well. One of these fans was a girl named Lilo, who showed them a video of Snitch and Dr. Doof performing their song "Blackbird", and while the two were seen making fun of their lyrics, the Band finds their odd friendship kinda cute. The Curtis Gang, a close-knit group of greaser youths, didn't expect to learn that the Band were fans of Elvis too, that they aren't born into a rich family nor used to dress like greasers. The three members did admit they aren't into the culture, but wanted to imitate the other small bands back when they are staring out. Due to their varying lifestyles, they can't see each other as friends but they are amicable since the Band feel pity on what their fans, the upper class Soc, did to them. Due to having mutual admiration for both Elvis and the Beatles, Archie, Betty, and Veronica decided to go to a private fan-up with the Band, who know the teens as their band actually outpace them at one point. Archie did express pity for the Band as he sympathise their stresses in their fame, from a dream at least. The Beatles told Archie and his friends that they would have to deal with that eventually and give some tips on dealing with fame and making music too.
- There's a rumor within the Pantheon that the reason why the nickname JoJo was applied to Jonathan Joestar and most of his descendants was because of their song "Get Back", which was focused on a man named Jojo. While neither The Beatles nor Jonathan would elaborate any further, they get along rather well otherwise. His grandson Joseph Joestar is a fan of the Band and has even gone to see one of their concerts in the 60s. Through their meeting with the Joestars, the Band learned of the existence of Stands, which Joseph explains, is a manifestation of one's own life energy and possesses superhuman abilities. Two of those Stands, namely White Album (with one of its abilities named "Gently Weeps") and Ticket to Ride (which was created when The Holy Corpse, which may or may not be Jesus' actual corpse, merged with its owner) seem to be named after one of their albums and two of their songs, though Joseph clarifies that the names are probably coincidental. They oppose White Album's user Ghiaccio of La Squadra Esecuzioni simply because he's an assassin while they got along Ticket to Ride's user Lucy Steel, even if her young marriage squicks them out. If there's one thing the Christians and The Beatles can agree on, is that they both want to understand how her whole "giving virgin birth to the head of Christ" thing works.
- Some of the residents of Springfield have a long history with some of The Beatles members. Apu is a friend of the Band since they met each other in India during their Maharishi days. Ned Flanders, who is and still is a fan, used to have a room filled with Beatles memorabilia until Bart and Millhouse wrecked it. While he's made no mention of what he thinks of John's infamous comment, it's evident that Flanders still admires the Band regardless. Krusty the Clown has only met the Band once and has picture of their meeting with him. The Simpsons themselves have interacted with some of The Beatles members, which led them to meet all of The Fab Four at their temple. Marge thanked Ringo for inspiring her to paint again, Lisa thanked Paul for inspiring her to continue her veganism, while Homer thanked George for pointing him towards a pile of brownies at a Grammy after party. While John has never met any of the Simpsons in his lifetime, he mistook Homer for the psycho who kills various celebrities to help exploit their decreased likeness but since Homer doesn't recall these events at all, John slowly warms up to him as well.
- While The Beatles are together in the sense that they are playing as a band again, they aren't going full-time with the reunion yet. Eventually, Paul and Ringo would return to the mortal realm as they still have their mortal obligations and solo careers to deal with, leaving John and George to run their temples most of the time, doing there own solo careers in the Pantheon. They did promise each other to reunite more often or visit the Pantheon their own as they find the place is too interesting for them to pass up. If ever they occasionally reunite, they would continue to do tours on the rooftops or actual stages periodically (like 3-12 month intervals) as they feel like touring is a bit tiring for them to do it often. As for another Beatles album, they are a bit secretive about it if they are working on it or not but who can say for sure that happens in the future? But for now, they seem content making this place their own in the meantime.
Exclusive to John Lennon:
- The Smart Beatle: As the leader, founder, and spokesman of the band, John plays the Rhythm Guitar on stage along with other instruments on recordings and is one-half of the Lennon/McCartney songwriting partnership, where they co-own the songs either or both of them wrote. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "I Want to Hold Your Hand", "Come Together" and "All You Need is Love". His described by those who know him as very smart, sarcastic, witty, passionate and isn't afraid to speak his mind, especially when it comes to political and social causes. He also harbored a dark side, being prone to anger and jealousy, and being distant to some of his loved ones, probably stemming from the fact that his parents were not present in his early life. Despite that, you can't buy John Lennon love, but he will kick your ass for free if you mess with his loved ones. His most visited Houses are the Hall of Felines, since he's a cat lover as well as House of Knowledge since he's an avid reader.
- Despite staying in the Pantheon the longest, John didn't go out of his temple for the first few years, being traumatized by his sudden death. During that time, he stayed in his temple reading books he requested from the House of Knowledge, writing about his feelings, or seeking therapy from Frasier Crane, who has heard of the Band before. It wasn't until he reunited with George did he found the courage to go out and explore. Being an avid reader, he's surprised that many literary figures had ascended here. Having read Alcott, Carroll, and Wilde's work, he befriended Alice and The March Sisters and stays the hell away from Dorian Grey. John also felt a deep connection to Snow White as his late mother used to sing her song "I'm Wishing" to him. Snow White is flattered that "Do You Want to Know a Secret" (which John wrote) references her song and they became good friends since. While he doesn't hold any grudges against Holden for inspiring his killer to commit his murder, he still gets chills whenever he passes by the kid.
- He's aware of his ironic title about performing, despite his disdain for it in his later years. It could be a side effect of his improving mental health or the positive interactions he's had, which made him not worried about whichever title he took when he was able to. Either way, he befriended other troubled artists, like Van Gogh and Beethoven, who appreciate his concerns for their mental health. He also found a sort of kinship in Korra for being an emotionally troubled public figure with anger and jealousy issues. Speaking of positive interactions, given John's friendship with David Bowie, the two hugged each other when they reunited. Whenever he meets EpicLloyd and NicePeter, he remembers the time he was summoned into a rap battle with Bill O'Reilly and doesn't mind getting a rematch should he ascend.
Exclusive to Paul McCartney:
- The Cute Beatle: As the co-leader and co-founder of the band, Paul plays the Bass Guitar on stage along with other instruments on recordings and is the other half of the Lennon/McCartney songwriting partnership. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "She Loves You", "Hey Jude", and "Yesterday". He is described by his peers as friendly and polite, and also cheesy and sensitive, which is reflected by his silly love songs. He also tends to be very guarded, kinda bossy when doing recording stuff, and also sometimes likes being the centre of attention. Some deities swear that he has been in the Pantheon much earlier, to which Paul ignores those comments as he'd already hear all of them. During his spare time, he can be seen in the Hall of Birds as he is an avid bird-watcher. Being a comic fan, he's met Stan Lee and Jack Kirby before. Magneto remember the time Paul and him used to hang out and is reluctant to admit that song dedicated to him slaps.
- An eventful day during Paul's visit started like this: Due to his compassion for animals, which started when he was a young boy saw how Dumbo and Bambi's mothers were treated poorly, he was overjoyed to hear that their children were in the Pantheon and decided to meet them along with other vegetarian animal lovers like Fluttershy who are waiting for see him. On his way there, he chats up with Liz Lemon and Kermit the Frog, who are glad to meet up after he was invited to their Live sketch show and the Queen's Jubilee respectively. He hopes that his next invite would be better than the time he was invited by Bojack's herald for a surprise party or that time he had a scuffle with Bojack at the Golden Globes. Making his way back to from the visit, Paul walked passed MJ's temple, who had a falling out after he bought rights to the Beatles' songs and refuse to talk to him. Granted, Paul was the one who advised purchasing other people's songs for investment to him and the reason why he didn't bought their own songs was because he didn't want to own all for the songs he and John wrote, but it still ironically hurts coming from friend he thought he knew. At least that whole rights thing is kinda sorted, so Paul just leave him alone and left. As he was returning from the meeting (which he enjoyed), he was approached by the pirate couple Will and Elizabeth who were outside the Band's temple asking about Jack Sparrow's whereabouts, after hearing that his uncle had ascended. Quickly figuring out that someone must have mistaken him for someone who looks like him, he clarified the confusion and invited them for some tea for their troubles.
Exclusive to George Harrison:
- The Quiet Beatle: As one of the founding members and the youngest of the group, George plays the Lead Guitar on stage along with other instruments on recordings. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Something", and "Here Comes The Sun". He is described by those close to him as fun, thoughtful, sociable, and very spiritual. Despite his "nickname", he isn't that untalkative according to his friends, it's just that he only spoke when something needed to be said, and didn't give as many interviews as the other Beatles. He can be seen visiting the House of Travel due to his love for cars as well as the Hindu temples of the House of Religion and Faith to practice his faith. Despite being aware that he can be healed, be revived and have as much cigs as he wants, he doesn't touch any of it and advocates for anti-smoking causes in his free time. He also gets nervous when going near any Pantheonic hospitals.
- Has frienship with Monty Python, he's not allies with Monty Python crew as they descended due to a certain spam incident, George became friends with their underling Brian, the non-messiah, who the latter swears looks familiar to him. He is, however, wary of Monty Python's other underlings like The Black Knight and Killer Rabbit. Knowing that he helped produced his film, Withnail is really grateful and even invites him for a drink, while George pities him for his alcoholic lifestyle and tries introduce his religion to get Withnail to change his ways before his health gets worse. Speaking of religion, besides Vishnu, George befriend a few Greater Deities from Hindu faith such as Ganesha, Karna, Rama and Sita, all whom admire his dedication despite not being born into the faith. Being a friends with the other Hindi deities as well as a famed boxer in India, he also gets along The Great Tiger. Despite being a fan of Hindu Mythlogy, the light-bending architect Symmetra hasn't heard of the Hare Krisma Mantra, to which George gladly teaches her all about its ways. On the other hand, the demon Kumbhakarna is not interested in this puny human, while George doesn't like him after hearing how he ate the monks who disturbed his sleep.
Exclusive to Ringo Starr:
- The Funny Beatle: As the heartbeat and soul of the band (according to the other Beatles) as well as the oldest member, he plays the Drums on stage along with other instruments on recordings. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "Yellow Submarine", "With A Little Help From My Friends" & "Octopus’s Garden". He is described by his friends as usually laid back, goofy, jokey, kinda blunt but gets along well with pretty much everyone. Sometimes being made fun of as the "loser" of the group, although he doesn't mind that much as that's only their opinion. At least his bandmates like him in real life. Although, he gets a bit self-conscious when it comes to his singing or his drumming, and was the one who didn't speak a lot. When he's not playing with his band-mates, Ringo has been seen telling stories to some of the child deities, most of the stories being about train engines on the Island of Sodor. Given his previous issues with it, he steers away from the Hall of Alcohol.
- Being the voice of his stories, he is friends with Thomas the Tank Engine and fellow narrator George Carlin, even if Ringo doesn't mind that Carlin thinks that "the wrong two Beatles dead first". Wakko tried to volunteer to be Thomas' storyteller since his voice is based on him but Ringo politely declined the offer. They still get along well. His other on-screen roles got him some interesting scenarios, such as when Alice would sometimes mistake him for The Mock Turtle, who somehow turned human. As he played Merlin in Son of Dracula (no, not that one), he's allied with the actual Merlin and his aid with Van Helsing in that movie also got him in hot water with Count Dracula (and all his other versions) as well as Dr. Frankenstein (while not the evil Baron, Victor is frustrated at another evil depiction of him). Having been a Caveman before, he gets along with Loana and her tribe and even introduced her tribe to the concept of music. Like Paul, Ringo has met Kermit and Stan Lee before, and while Ringo and Stan still can't a good comic idea they can both agree with, they remain good friends.

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 21st 2022 at 6:02:49 PM

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#193256: Sep 19th 2022 at 11:39:43 PM

for adding The British Invasion as a second title and making them Guardians of Musicality under "Experimental" (if you're accepting s for the profile itself, then since it looks pretty fat and complete to me).

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

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#193257: Sep 20th 2022 at 2:40:56 AM

So, "Seldom-Seen Species" is no longer a trope; [[Beast: Other Crash Bandicoot needs a new one. Any ideas?

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#193258: Sep 20th 2022 at 11:41:03 AM

Oh nuts, I literally just proposed him for a rework.

Either way, Spin Attack could be a solid replacement for Crash: his main, and most iconic, move is a quick spin attack that he uses in a variety of ways, from attacking enemies, reflecting certain projectiles, launching enemies at other enemies, or even to glide in the air.

Edited by DoodSlayer136 on Sep 20th 2022 at 12:16:17 PM

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#193259: Sep 20th 2022 at 12:52:26 PM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…

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#193260: Sep 20th 2022 at 1:07:49 PM

You know, now that discarded tropes have been mentioned, Everythings Better With Dinosaurs is also in the same page, which means that the Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger are in need of a trope change. It would be most appreciated if an alternate idea of proposed as soon as possible.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 20th 2022 at 9:09:15 AM

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#193261: Sep 20th 2022 at 8:11:23 PM

What about Dinosaur Media? It's not taken and their current trope refers to the fact that their series has a lot of Dinosaur motifs. Which makes sense plot wise as their powers came from super-powered dinosaurs, but also because the motif and animal of choose is chosen to likely appeal to their younger audience.
Sullivan Family - I also wanted to expand on my Jigsaw suggestion by saying that Johnny and Sarah would scared and try to protect Christy and Ariel from this man, while Jigsaw would not target the family since the adults seem well adjusted and content and also that Jigsaw doesn't target kids (last time I've checked).

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 21st 2022 at 12:17:36 AM

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#193262: Sep 21st 2022 at 4:37:31 PM

Apologies for the double post but since I've done a lot of minor alternations and proofreading, I figured it's time to call this Four-Headed Monster done and would now be accepting Thumbs. Again, I'm open to delete at max two flavor texts if it's still too long.

s: Excessive-Menace, ShonenTrash98, Necromancer10, DoodSlayer136, CrimsonShark

Thumbs Mode

Introducing...
The Beatles, Influential Deities of British Musical Exports and Those Who Perform Live From The Rooftops (The Fab Four, The Young Lads, The Boys From Liverpool, The Four-Headed Monster, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band | John: The Smart One, Lennie | Paul: The Cute One, Macca | George: The Quiet One, Hazza | Ringo: The Funny One, Rings, Richie, Billy Shears)

L-R: George Harrison, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Ringo Starr.

^{Their Early Career Look}

^{As Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band}

^{Performing On The Rooftops}

^{View Above The Rooftops}

Lesser Deities (doesn't believe in their own godhood, arguably had the world changing influence of Greater Deities)
Returning House: Musicality (As The Guardian of "Experimental")
Symbol: Drum logo reading "The Beatles" or the Yellow Submarine.
Signature Song: Too many to choose from but here's a select few: "Hey Jude", "Yesterday", "Here Comes The Sun", "Let It Be", "All You Need is Love", "Blackbird", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "In My Life", "Come Together", "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "She Loves You"
- As Solo Artists: "Imagine" (John) "Maybe I’m Amazed" (Paul) "My Sweet Lord" (George) "Photograph" (Ringo)
Alignment: True Neutral
Members: John Lennon, Sir Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Sir Richard "Ringo Starr" Starkey
Portfolio: Pioneering Artistry, Breakaway Pop Hits, Genre Turning Points, The British Invasion, Snarking, Silly Love Songs, and too many others to list. Broke-up due to Creative Differences, Did their own Solo Projects, Reunited Briefly after the break-up.
Domains: Music, Craft, Emotion, Liberation, Trade
Heralds: Brian Epstein (their late manager), Pete Best, their respective loved ones
Followers: JAM Project, Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones, Oasis, etc.
Allies:
- Musical Allies ^note: Houkago Tea Time, Metallica, Green Day, Wee zer, Freddie Mercury, Pink Floyd, Gorillaz, "Weird Al" Yankovic, Candace Flynn, Phineas Flynn, Ferb Fletcher, The Muppets
- Non-Musical Allies ^note: The Doctor^note, James Bond, The Powerpuff Girls, Jonathan Joestar, The Guru, Stanley Kubrick, Steven Spielberg, Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, The Chos en Four, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, Pinky, Pinkie Pie, Cookie Monster, Avatar Aang, House of Defense
- Individual Allies ^noteThey are more aligned with one specific member but they can be amicable with other members too:
  - John: David Bowie, EpicLloyd, NicePeter, Frasier Crane, Snow White (Disney), Alice Liddell/Kingsleigh, The March Sisters, Vincent Van Gogh, Ludwig van Beethoven, Avatar Korra
  - Paul: Lisa Simpson, Sir Christopher Lee, Jerrica Benton, Liz Lemon, Dumbo, Bambi, Flutter shy, Beast Boy, Wander, Eliza Thornberry, Frodo Baggins
  - George: Brian Cohen, Ganesha, Karna, Rama, Sita, Symmetra, The Great Tiger, Gandalf
  - Ringo: Thomas the Tank Engine, George Carlin, Merlin, Wakko Warner, Loana, Sam Gamgee
Enemies: Annie Wilkes, Eric Raymond, YHVH, Chuck Shurley, Big Brother, O'Brien, Mola Ram, Shere Khan, Mojo Jojo, Princess Morbucks, HIM, Richard Nixon's Head
Friendly Rivalry with: Elvis Presley
Fans and Admirers: Mafalda, Aqo urs, Betty Cooper, Veronica Lodge, Joseph Joestar, SiIvaGunner, Ferris Bueller, The New Directions Glee Club, Ned Flanders, Brian Griffin, Stewie Griffin, The Satellite of Love Crew, Gene Siskel, Roger Ebert, David Tennant, Nicolas Cage, Samuel L. Jackson, George R.R. Martin, Stephen King, Robert Downey, Jr., Vinny (All of them) Marge Simpson (All of them but mostly for Ringo)
On Good Terms with: Sabrina Spellman, Asterix, Obelix, Mowgli, Baloo, Heinz Doofenshmirtz, Lilo Pelekai, Stitch, Lucy Steel, Jojo Betzler, Fred Flintstone, Some Good Aligned Members of Middle-Earth, Gerald Ford, Krusty the Clown (All of them) Will and Elizabeth Turner (Paul) Homer Simpson (George)
Respects: Various Top Gods like The Love That Moves the Stars, God (God, Devil and Bob), God (Bruce Almighty), The One Above All, Eru Ilúvatar, and Vishnu
Respected by: House of Love and Affection, House of Friendship and Camaraderie
Opposes: The Warmogerers of House of Military and Warfare, Most Members of House of Hatred and Rancor and House of Slaughter, Col. Benjamin Cameron, Captain Beatty, Napoleon, Ghiaccio, Anyone who misinterprets their words and lyrics to harm and/or hate (All of them) Dorian Gray (John) Max Eisenhardt/Magneto (Paul) Kumbhakarna, The Black Knight, The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog (George) Count Dracula and all his other versions, Victor Frankenstein (Ringo)
Opposed by: Conservative Christians of the House of Religion and Faith, J. R. R. Tolkien
Pities: Victims of War (especially the Vietnam War), Victims of Violence (especially of Gun Violence and Home Invasion), The Curtis Gang, Killer B (All of them) Smeagol and Gollum (John) Withnail (George)
Pitied by: Archie Andrews, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Teddy Roosevelt
Complicated Relations with: Non-Conservative Christians of the House of Religion and Faith, B.J. Blazkowicz (All of them) Holden Caulfield (John) Michael Jackson (Paul)
Conflicted Opinion on: The Friend, The Brain, Peter Griffin (All of them) BoJack Horseman (Paul)
Annoys: Rocket Raccon, Rigby, Dr. Ivo Robotnik aka Dr. Eggman
Appeared in Sgt. Pepper Cover: Albert Einstein, Carl Jung, H.G. Wells
The Beatles was one of the most successful and influential music groups of the 1960’s following their formation. Consisting of John Lennon, George Harrison, Paul McCartney, and Ringo Starr (the latter of whom replaced Pete Best, a member of the band during their early years), the band has put out many successful songs and albums, starred in a couple of movies, and received a couple of cartoons featuring their likenesses. The band had its share of ups-and-downs and eventually, the group disbanded in 1970 due to internal conflicts with each other and they all pursued their own solo musical careers. No matter what happened good or bad to the band and its members, The Beatles remained a strong influence on other musicians that came after them and media centered on them and their work (whether its fictional stories or documentaries) continues to get made.
Applies to the group or at least two members:
- The first one to ascend was John after his murder by a mentally unstable fan in December 1980. A strange case occurred as due to coming up as "Incomplete" in the system records, he wasn't able to choose a title on his own. The second one was George who died of lung cancer in November 2001 and appeared near Vishu's temple once he ascended. While it was initially tense when they reunite due to previous animosities, John and George had since made a conscious effort to mend their friendship after expressing sadness for each other's unfortunate deaths. The third and fourth one was Paul and Ringo, who were teleported sometime during the new 10's from their respective residences. They arrived in a familiar rooftop and transformed into their younger selves. Though confused and shocked, the two were happy to finally reunite with their long-deceased mates in this strange world, whatever remaining grievances they had in the past must have been washed away years ago.
  - When summoned for their Title choosing, The Band was informed by The Court of Gods that the John and George's title glitch was now fixed by summoning Paul and Ringo into this place. As the Band don't feel like arguing with each other at the moment, they instead requested to randomized their long list of titles given to them and go with whichever it picked. The randomizer got God of Rooftop Concerts, which seems fitting as this is the last time they publicly performed together. While Paul and Ringo didn't think of that event as anything special, The Fab Four all agreed to take the title as a symbol of their renewed friendship. The Band then decided to celebrated being conferred their status with, what else, a Rooftop Concert, as they feel grateful to whoever is responsible in bring John and George back to life. On the day of their concert, the areas around the building where they are playing were packed to the brim with so many screaming people that the Band were given high-tech noise cancelling earpieces to hear what they are playing. Originally, the Band played a one and a-half-hour setlist before extending it to two and a half hours due to encore requests, which is not their normal touring routine but they kept playing on as they kept looking and are fascinated by the various fantastical beings and creatures that shown up down the street, on the adjacent rooftops and up above them. Besides some protestors outside the Music Hall, the concert went well without incident much to the Band's relief.
- On their first week after their successful concert, they were visited by a few deities who shared their rooftop stories, which the Band finds interesting, except for George who boredly remarks that "It's Been Done.", but even he was interested in these next 3 stories. Sabrina, the teenage witch, shared how their band Flavor Babes reunited by doing a rooftop performance after they temporarily broke up due to their clashing egos caused by their rockstar-making spell. The Boys from Liverpool find it very relatable, even if the Band find that the Flavor Babes played very terribly without magic. The Band feels bad for Killer B, Ninja God of Gratuitous Rapping, after being drop-kicked from his rooftop performance by his brother A, because the latter was not pleased that he was performing in the middle of an alliance meeting. They were also touched by TriState Area residents Phineas, Ferb, and Candace's told the story about how they found their lost pet Perry by playing music on the rooftop in the hope that he can hear it and come back to them, although they did question where their parents were during all this.
  Lennon: Aren't you a little too young to be performing on top of a building unsupervised?
  Phineas: Yes, yes we were.
- No one is bigger than they are in the domain of Music, as such they are very well liked by the House of Music and even its most evil aligned members have a begrudging respect or slight jealousy for them. Bands like Pink Floyd, Queen, Metallica, Green Day, Weezer, and Gorillaz, who are either inspired by them or looked up to them with respect, are one of their closest allies. Weird Al, of course, has made of parodies of their songs, and he's friends with Paul whose done a weird interview with him. The Fab Four also used to be one of the "The Master Composers" before being forced to forfeit their positions due to the Music House's renovation. This allowed the highschool band Houkago Tea Time a chance to apply for newly formed "The Divine Music Genre Artists". The Girls get along well with The Beatles due to their similar temperaments and musical quirks, thought, it's debated which members are based on each Beatle (you can find some two examples here). Regardless, it's agreed that Paul and Mio are the ones that get along the most, they are both left-handed bass players who like to write silly love songs. The Boys from Liverpool wholeheartedly supported the Girls from Sakuragoaka's positions in the main Music House.
- As compensation for their Main Music House removal, the Band were reoffered to return with a second title "Gods of The British Invasion" due to their early music marking the start of foriegn interest in other British musical acts, which they accepted. They were not surprised that are various fans and admirers of their music in the Pantheon. The Fab Four gave one of their biggest kid fans named Mafalda a photo of them holding her picture after learning that she fainted upon seeing them (she loved it). The girls of Riverdale Betty and Veronica have been fans since the height of Beatlemania but you don't notice this at first as they don't age. Aqours, a highschool idol group, are admirers of their music and they even have plans to make a Beatles tribute performance on a rooftop. The New Directions Glee Club are familiar with them as they were given a two-week assignment to cover their songs, which they sang to express their frustrations in their lives and their romantic feelings for the others. Due to learning that their mortal Superior is a Beatles fan, that their world is filled with occasional references to their music, and even sometimes named after them in their original language, The Chosen Four from Eagleland got along very well with The Fab Four.
  - There were quite a lot of guys who like their music too! The Movie Riffers from The Satellite of Love Crew references and quotes the Beatles so often that one follower listed a bunch of them. SiIvaGunner, a Divine Collective who identifies as one male, likes the Band a lot that he posts his High-Quality Rips of their music to his YouTube channel. While the Fab Four likely don't approve of bootleggers of their music, they are perplexed on why it sounded a bit off and different. High-schooler Ferris Bueller who once skipped school, went on a parade to passionately lip-syncing performed to "Twist and Shout" with everyone around him gleefully dancing to the music. Peter, Stewie and Brian Griffin are also fans and kinda know the Band's history, thought the Band are frustrated with Peter's antics at times. James Bond is obviously a fan, given one of them (Paul) wrote "Live and Let Die" and another (Ringo) is married to Agent XXX. However, he prefers to only meet them when screaming crowds aren't present - 007 once said "That's as bad as listening to The Beatles without earmuffs" for a reason!
- Their first Pantheon performance made them consider exploring a lot more Houses for musical and non-musical related trips. When they do, they always have security guards with them, would be wear some protective technology (like a high-tech protective vest or GPS) or just wear a disguise (which they used to do in their early careers). They understandably have fears of travelling as while everyone knows of John's death, not a lot of people know that George once survived an attack in his residence by a mentally unstable fan. What eased their fears a bit are when US Presidents Lincoln, Kennedy, Roosevelt, Ford, all of whom experienced public assassination or attempts in their careers, wrote letters to both John and George about their own experiences in the Pantheon and reassure them that some of its heroic deities would protected despite the increase dangers. Only Ford is aware of the band when he was a mortal and he even personally visited their temple a few weeks after George ascended. While Nixon also had kill attempts during his term, he never contracted the Band, mostly because he opposed them in real life but also because his revived head hates their guts.
- The area around their temple looks like a typical small and relatively quiet Liverpool-like city distinct with old brick buildings, several trees, and a cloudy sky. Their actual temple looks like the front of the Apple Corp building, with 4 floors for each Beatle and their heralds to stay in, has a high tech recording studio in the basement, and of course, a rooftop, which where their reunion and first Pantheon concert happened. Absolutely no outsiders is allowed inside their temple unless you made an appointment or let in by one of the Beatles themselves. The temple and its immediate area are some of the most secured and highly guarded in the entire House of Musicality. It's not that they are afraid of dying, but they are all afraid of being violently attacked, kidnapped or tortured for any reason. Annie Wilkes, Goddess of Loony Fans, and all of her followers are absolutely not allowed within several kilometers from their area, despite not having stated any opinions on the band herself. There are a lot of small-numbered floored buildings around the temple which are used for fan meet-ups, musical sessions or if one decides to do a rooftop concert of their own, with the Band's only request is to not make their music too loud while they have guests over.
- The Beatles usually look like they were in their late 30's and early 40's (around the same age John passed away), but can also shift ages and outfits from time to time. Both John and George had tried to age themselves to match the ages of their surviving members but they switch back shortly as they sometimes get sad about the years they have lost. Although their older selves don't like shifting into their younger 20's selves that much because of their mature mindset, they would occasionally shift into this form, complete with their Mop-top and suits, with the side effect that their mindset also changes that they can act jokey, carefree and free-spirited, similar to their fictional characterization in movies like "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help!". They can also be seen in other outfits as well like Sgt. Pepper's outfit (where they are treated as if they are another band) or their Magical Mystery Tour outfits. To shift to a different topic, they are also without any supernatural powers of their own and if you bought up that they had one while being stuck on other planets, they would give you looks of confusion. Also, they request to stop giving them drugs of any kind as they are done with that lifestyle.
- While initially weirded out by this, The Band befriended deities who recognized their similar look in other worlds. Asterix and Obelix told them about a popular group of bards◊ during their visit to Britannia. After learning their likeness to a musical group of 4 insects, the Band and Cookie Monster gladly performed a cover of this song with him at a Pantheon charity concert. While no longer with the travelling band that resembles at least three of them, Pinkie Pie is still on good terms with the human Young Lads. The simple-minded lab mouse Pinky get along with the Fab Four just fine due to looking like another Liverpudlian band from their world. The scheming lab mouse The Brain fears that Pinky's new friendship may distract him from their world taking schemes, while the Band are a bit unsure of The Brain's world taking motivations due to having noble intentions of wanting a better world. Reminded of the four rockstars he used to train with, The Guru of the Stone agreed to teach the Band the peaceful magic called Dreamtime after they expressed their curiosity about it. Fred Flinstone, when hearing their "Bug Music", told them of the time he, his wife and neighbors pretended to be in a band to annoy their irritating guests off their house, which the Band finds his story amusing.
  - Their likeness brings unexpected dangers too. An tiger named Shere Khan was found stalking their temple with murderous looks in his eyes. He left when a South Asian boy with a torch and a black bear came to shoo him away, and the pair, named Mowgli and Baloo, explained to the the Band that the tiger must have been stalking them due to how similar they look to the vultures that helped defeat him. The Band thanked both of them and later install lanterns due to learning the tiger's fear of fire. They would later be harassed by 3/4 of The Beat-Alls, consisting of Mojo, Princess and HIM, who the villains claim that the Band stole a lot of their ideas from them. The Powerpuff Girls would kick these villains of course and later grew to befriend this "dumb old band"(especially Ringo, who admits to wishing to be a Powerpuff himself) and promised to be vigilant in case Fuzzy's ascension would cause an unwanted band reunion. B.J. Blazkowicz admits that he's a bit wary of them due to mistaking them to a band who sings Nazi propaganda songs. The Band says it's not theirs as they only rerecorded at least two of their songs in German to appeal to their country. While The Fab Four were glad Jojo Betzler likes their German music and was able to turn his ideals around, they politely asked him to stop making comparisons between Beatlemania and Nazism.
- The protesters during their first rooftop concert were actually selected Christians of the House of Religion and Faith and other Christian deities in the Pantheon, who argued that John proclaiming that he was bigger than Jesus himself is enough to get the band kicked out of the Pantheon for their blasphemy, or at least banned from coming into their House. This peeved John and he argues to the protestors picketing outside their temple one day that: 1) It's misworded and was not about comparing himself to Christ but was attempting to explain the decline of Christianity in the UK 2) He had already issued an apology (even if he believes he was just expressing his opinion). 3) He doesn't have a problem with Jesus himself and even convert back to Christianity few years before passing.^note 4) He finds the protests insensitive when his killer cites his bloody comment as one of his murderer's "excuses". That last statement stopped their protest, some started feeing pity about John's passing or feared being lumped with a killer. Since then, there were fewer protests around their temple, mostly from some conservative deities who still think the Band disrespects Christian or Traditional values. The Band also express that they aren't that offended if other deities make references to that statement.
- The Fab Four didn't know what surprised them more; that both Abrahamic God and Hindu Gods exist in physical form, that there are multiple versions of them, or that they co-living in the Pantheon. For context, all members used to have Catholic/Protestant backgrounds before embracing other religious beliefs alongside Christianity (besides Paul who seems agnostic still). Most good-aligned Top Gods the Band encounters are pretty understanding and chill with them, including His Highest Joy, The God That Bob Knows, The God That Bruce Knows, The One Above All, Eru Ilúvatar and the Hindu God Vishnu (who sometimes appears as one of his avatars Krishna). As an Hare Krishna follower, George has huge respect for Vishnu, who in turn would gladly help the Band if they needed protection or guidance. The few Top Gods they have a problem with is YHVH, who wishes to smite the Band for John's assertions that his influence is decreasing or being jealous that they are more popular than him, and the God who calls himself Chuck Shurley, who treats his world as like it was his original novel and they don't like the idea that their personal tragedies being there for his entertainment only, not caring whether he's a music fan or not.
- The Beatles are known for advocating for Peace and Love, which they started after learning about the horrors of the Vietnam War, and have several songs dedicated to these ideals. They were horrified by the Pantheon's Forever War and even thought Death Is Cheap here, there's still suffering everywhere. That said, The Band do give kudos to the GUAG for their good-aligned goals of peace and justice, and to the GUAN for protecting animal kind and nature in general. They also oppose any hateful, violent, or warmongering deities, mostly found in the Houses of Military & Warfare, Hatred & Rancor and Slaughter, with special hatred goes to Big Brother and his loyal mole O'Brien, being an antithesis for their ideals and for maintaining a perpetual war in their world, as well as the animal-oppressing pig Napoleon. Big Brother would like to break them but the Band's high security would make them hard to reach, while The Pig is not amused when told that "Piggies" was likely inspired by him. Due to this stance, they are considered honorary members of the Houses of Love and Affection and Friendship and Camaraderie, with "All You Need Is Love" playing at certain peace rallies there. They're also befriended the spritually-minded Avatar Aang, who is also against war and violence.
- The Band also has some beef with a few of the deities and the titles they represent. Being no stranger to the shady Music Industry, The Band don't like the shrewd music executive Eric Raymond, who in turn, has seething jealousy over their success and plans to take them down one day. Being reminded of the burnings of their records, the Band would also oppose Captain Beatty, who in turn, is wary of the information spreading and emotional upsetting power of music, and this burning incident gave him some interesting ideas should he ran out of books to burn. The House of Musicality is well prepared should fires start to break out in their Domain. Due to their not-so-good experiences with The Klan, they also oppose Col. Cameron, a Deity who represents them. Being a conservative Christian, Cameron opposes the Band simply because he agreed with the modern Klansmen's opinions on the Band's perceived blasphemy. After The Trollkaigers invited him to a screening of "Help!", Mola Ram was outraged by their mockery of his religion and swore to sacrifice The Band to appease Kali. This offended the Band because it was during the filming of Help! that their interest in Indian culture started, and they feel like they have more respect for the culture than The Head of the Thuggees ever could.
- The Doctor and The Beatles recently got reacquainted since they have a long history together spanning back to The Time Lord's first incarnation. The Band are well aware of The Doctor's past as a solider and while they oppose their War incarnation, they acknowledge that The Time Lord has saved a lot of people too, and at least they weren't warmongers but another victim of war itself. During a friendly meeting one day, John, out of the blue, asked The Time Lord if there was a way to prevent his death via time travel, to which the room fell silent. The Doctor calmly told them about fixed events as he briefly tells them of the story when one of his companions "tried" to fix the death of her father. While The Band were saddened by this story, The Doctor tried to comfort them by sharing about other timelines where John could have lived, like a curious incident where due to a strange blackout, the Band never formed and only a few people can remember them. The Fab Four's curiosity grew a bit and the Doctor also told them of worlds where they never broke up, other people tried to save John, etc. and there are even some books about these stories. The Band made a mental note to read these books from the House of Knowledge in their free time.
- The Young Lads are well aware of the reason English author J. R. R. Tolkien's hatred of them is because he hated hearing the noise some Beatles wannabe band would make near his residence. While there's no information if he held any personal grudges with the Band itself, it's speculated that's why his estate rejected their offer of adapting one of his beloved books, The Lord of the Rings. According to the mortal director Peter Jackson, they had this plan back in 1968 to adapt this book and even approached Stanley Kubrick to direct the film. John wanted to play Gollum, Paul would play Frodo, Ringo would take on Sam, and George would have bearded up to play Gandalf. Paul has seen and liked Jackson's version but laments that it could have been a musical with Beatles songs as its soundtrack. Either way, they seem to be on good terms with most of Tolkien's creations since the beings from Middle-Earth don't have a real grudge against them. The Band also allied with the characters they are supposed to play as, since they each felt flattered by their gesture of wanting to embody their journeys, except for Gollum, who John pities for the hobbit's obsession with the One Ring. The Band and Kubrick, along Steven Spielberg, who is a big Beatles fan, were recently seen together, leading to rumors that they are working on other book adaptation of some kind.
- With Elvis Presley being one of their main musical inspirations, learning about Paul's trip to Graceland made the other Beatles reminisce about Elvis in his prime and they eventually made friends with other Elvis fans as well. One of these fans was a girl named Lilo, who showed them a video of Snitch and Dr. Doof performing their song "Blackbird", and while the two were seen making fun of their lyrics, the Band finds their odd friendship kinda cute. The Curtis Gang, a close-knit group of greaser youths, didn't expect to learn that the Band were fans of Elvis too, that they aren't born into a rich family nor that they used to dress like greasers◊. The Band (sans Ringo) did admit they aren't into the culture, but wanted to imitate the other bands back when they are staring out. Due to their varying lifestyles, they can't see each other as friends but they are amicable since the Band feel pity on what the Band's fans, the Socs, did to them. Due to having mutual admiration for both Elvis and the Beatles, Archie, Betty, and Veronica decided to go to a private fan-up with the Band, who know the teens as their band The Archies actually outpace them at one point. Archie did express pity for the Band as he sympathise their stresses in their fame, from a dream at least. The Beatles told Archie and his friends that they would have to deal with that eventually and give some tips on dealing with fame and making music too.
- There's a rumor within the Pantheon that the reason why the nickname JoJo was applied to Jonathan Joestar and most of his descendants was because of their song "Get Back", which was focused on a man named Jojo. While neither The Beatles nor Jonathan would elaborate any further, they get along rather well otherwise. His grandson Joseph Joestar is a fan of the Band and has even gone to see one of their concerts in the 60s. Through their meeting with the Joestars, the Band learned of the existence of Stands, which Joseph explains, is a manifestation of one's own life energy and possesses superhuman abilities. Two of those Stands, namely White Album (with one of its abilities named "Gently Weeps") and Ticket to Ride (which was created when The Holy Corpse, which may or may not be Jesus' actual corpse, merged with its owner) seem to be named after one of their albums and two of their songs, though Joseph clarifies that the names are probably coincidental in his world. After learning about their owners, they oppose White Album's user Ghiaccio of La Squadra Esecuzioni simply because he's an assassin while they got along Ticket to Ride's user Lucy Steel, even if her young marriage squicks them out. If there's one thing both the Christians deities and The Beatles can agree on, is that they want to know how her whole "giving virgin birth to the head of Christ" thing works.
- Some of the residents of Springfield have a long history with some of The Beatles members. Apu is a friend of the Band since they met each other in India during their Maharishi days. Ned Flanders, who is and still is a fan, used to have a room filled with Beatles memorabilia until Bart and Millhouse wrecked it. While he's made no mention of what he thinks of John's infamous comment, it's evident that Flanders still admires the Band regardless. Krusty the Clown has only met the Band once and has picture of their meeting with him. The Simpsons themselves have interacted with some of The Beatles members, which led them to meeting all of The Fab Four at their temple at Lisa's request. Marge thanked Ringo for inspiring her to paint again, Lisa thanked Paul for inspiring her to continue her veganism, while Homer thanked George for pointing him towards a pile of brownies at a Grammy after party. While John has never met any of the Simpsons in his lifetime, he was initially angry at Homer who had killed various celebrities to help exploit their decreased likenesses but since this Homer doesn't recall these events at all and is even horrifed by his story, John started to warm up to him.
- While The Beatles are together in the sense that they are playing as a band again, they aren't going full-time with the reunion just yet. Eventually, Paul and Ringo would return to the mortal realm as they still have their mortal obligations and solo careers to deal with, leaving the permanently ascended John and George, to run their temples most of the time, doing their own solo careers in the Pantheon. They did promise each other to reunite more often or visit the Pantheon their own as they find the place is too interesting for them to pass up. If ever they occasionally reunite, which is hopely not in a ring fighting each other to the death, they would continue to do tours on the rooftops or actual stages periodically (like 3-12 month intervals) as they feel like touring is a bit tiring for them to do it often. As for another Beatles album, they are a bit secretive about it if they are working on it or not but who can say for sure that happens in the future? But for now, they seem content in making this place their own for the meantime.
Exclusive to John Lennon:
- The Smart Beatle: As the leader, founder, and spokesman of the band, John plays the Rhythm Guitar on stage along with other instruments on recordings and is one-half of the Lennon/McCartney songwriting partnership, where they co-own the songs either or both of them wrote. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "I Want to Hold Your Hand", "Come Together" and "All You Need is Love". He is described by those who know him as very smart, sarcastic, witty, passionate and isn't afraid to speak his mind, especially when it comes to political and social causes. He also harbored a dark side, being prone to anger and jealousy, and being distant to some of his loved ones, probably stemming from the fact that his parents were not present in his early life. Despite that, while you can't buy John Lennon love, he will kick your ass for free if you mess with his loved ones. His most visited Houses are the Hall of Felines, since he's a cat lover as well as House of Knowledge since he loves to read a lot ever since he was a wee lad.
- Despite staying in the Pantheon the longest, John rarely goes out of his temple for the first few years, being traumatized by his sudden death. During that time, he mostly stayed in his temple reading books he requested from the House of Knowledge, writing about his thoughts and feelings, or seeking therapy from Frasier Crane, who has heard of the Band before. It wasn't until he reunited with George did he found the courage to go out and explore more frequently. Being an avid reader, he's surprised that many literary figures had ascended here. Having read and loved Carroll, Alcott, and Wilde's work, he befriended Alice from Wonderland and The March Sisters of Little Women and stays the hell away from Dorian Grey, given his youthful self-destructive nature. John also felt a deep connection to Snow White as his late mother used to sing her song "I'm Wishing" to him. Snow White is flattered that "Do You Want to Know a Secret" (which John wrote) references her song and they became good friends ever since. While he doesn't hold any grudges against Holden for inspiring his killer to commit his murder, he still gets chills whenever he passes by the kid.
- He's aware of his ironic title about performing, despite his disdain for it in his later years. It could be a side effect of his improving mental health or the positive interactions he's had, which made him not worried about whichever title he took when he was able to. Either way, he befriended other troubled artists, like Van Gogh and Beethoven, who appreciate his concerns for their mental health. He also found a sort of kinship in Avatar Korra for being an emotionally troubled public figure with anger and jealousy issues, noting that they both have a "Lost Weekend" being separated from their loved ones. Speaking of positive friends, given John's friendship with David Bowie, the two hugged each other when they reunited. Whenever he meets EpicLloyd and NicePeter, he remembers the time he was summoned into a rap battle with Bill O'Reilly and doesn't mind getting a rematch should he ascend.
Exclusive to Paul McCartney:
- The Cute Beatle: As the co-leader and co-founder of the band, Paul plays the Bass Guitar on stage along with other instruments on recordings and is the other half of the Lennon/McCartney songwriting partnership. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "She Loves You", "Hey Jude", and "Yesterday". He is described by his peers as friendly and polite, and also cheesy and sensitive, which is reflected by his Silly Love Songs. He also tends to be very guarded, kinda bossy when doing recording stuff, and also sometimes likes being the centre of attention. Some deities swear that he has been in the Pantheon for much longer having been "dead" since 1966, to which Paul ignores those comments as he'd already hear all of them. During his spare time, he can be seen in the Hall of Birds as he is an avid bird-watcher. Being a comic fan, he's met Stan Lee and Jack Kirby before. Magneto remember the time Paul and him used to hang out and is reluctant to admit that song dedicated to him slaps. He is also friends with actor Sir Christopher Lee, who appeared on his other band Wings' album Band on the Run.
- An eventful day during Paul's visit started like this: Due to his compassion for animals, which started when he, a young boy, saw how Dumbo and Bambi's mothers were treated poorly, Paul was overjoyed to hear that their children were in the Pantheon and decided to meet them along with other vegetarian animal lovers like Beast Boy, Fluttershy, Wander, and Eliza Thornberry who are waiting for see him. On his way there, he chats up with Liz Lemon and Kermit the Frog, who are glad to meet up after he was invited to their Live sketch show and the Queen's Jubilee respectively. He hopes that his next invite would be better than the time he was invited by BoJack's herald for a surprise party or that time he had a scuffle with BoJack at the Golden Globes. Making his way back from the visit, Paul walked passed MJ's temple, who had a falling out after he bought rights to the Beatles' songs and refuse to talk to him. Granted, Paul was the one who advised purchasing other people's songs for investment to him and the reason why he didn't bought their own songs was because he didn't want to own all for the songs he and John wrote, but it still ironically hurts coming from friend he thought he knew. At least that whole rights thing is kinda sorted, so Paul just leave him alone and left. As he was returning from the meeting (which he enjoyed), he was approached by the pirate couple Will and Elizabeth who were outside the Band's temple asking about Jack Sparrow's whereabouts, after hearing that his uncle had ascended. Quickly figuring out that someone must have mistaken him for someone who looks like him, he clarified the confusion and invited them for some tea for their troubles.
Exclusive to George Harrison:
- The Quiet Beatle: As one of the founding members and the youngest of the group, George plays the Lead Guitar on stage along with other instruments on recordings. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Something", and "Here Comes The Sun". He is described by those close to him as fun, thoughtful, sociable, and very spiritual. Despite his "nickname", he isn't that untalkative according to his friends, it's just that he only spoke when something needed to be said, and didn't give as many interviews as the other Beatles. He can be seen visiting the House of Travel due to his love for cars as well as the Hindu temples of the House of Religion and Faith to practice his faith. Despite being aware that he can be healed, be revived and have as much cigs as he wants, he doesn't touch any of it and advocates for anti-smoking causes in his free time. He also gets nervous when going near any Pantheonic hospitals.
- One of his first allies in the Pantheon were the Monty Python troupe, whom he was friends with in the moral realm, but after they descended following a certain spam incident, George became friends with their underling Brian, the non-messiah, who the latter swears looks familiar to him. He is, however, wary of Monty Python's other underlings like The Black Knight and Killer Rabbit. Knowing that George helped produced his film, Withnail is surprisingly grateful and even invites him for a drink, while George pities his alcoholic lifestyle and tries introduce his religion to get Withnail to change his ways before his health gets worse. Speaking of religion, besides Vishnu, George befriend a few Greater Deities from Hindu faith such as Ganesha, Karna, Rama and Sita, all of whom admire his dedication despite not being born into the faith. Being a friends with the other Hindu deities as well as a famed boxer in India, he also gets along The Great Tiger. Despite being a fan of Hindu Mythlogy, the light-bending architect Symmetra hasn't heard of the Hare Krisma Mantra, to which George gladly teaches her all about its ways. On the other hand, the demon Kumbhakarna is not interested in this puny human, while George doesn't like him after hearing how he ate the monks who disturbed his sleep.
Exclusive to Ringo Starr:
- The Funny Beatle: As the heartbeat and soul of the band (according to the other Beatles) as well as the oldest member, he plays the Drums on stage along with other instruments on recordings. His lead vocals can be heard in songs such as "Yellow Submarine", "With A Little Help From My Friends" & "Octopus’s Garden". He is described by his friends as usually laid back, goofy, jokey, kinda blunt but gets along well with pretty much everyone. Sometimes being made fun of as the "loser" of the group, although he doesn't mind it that much as that's only their opinion. At least his bandmates like him in real life. Although, he gets a bit self-conscious when it comes to his singing or his drumming, and was the one who didn't speak a lot. When he's not playing with his band-mates, Ringo has been seen telling stories to some of the child deities, most of the stories being about train engines on the Island of Sodor. Given his previous issues with it, he steers away from the Hall of Alcohol.
- Being the voice of his stories, he is friends with Thomas the Tank Engine and fellow narrator George Carlin, even if Ringo doesn't mind that Carlin thinks that "the wrong two Beatles died first". Wakko tried to volunteer to be Thomas' storyteller since his voice is based on him but Ringo politely declined the offer. They still get along well. His other on-screen roles got him into some interesting scenarios, such as when Alice would sometimes mistake him for The Mock Turtle, who somehow turned human. As he played Merlin in Son of Dracula (no, not that one), he's allied with the actual Merlin and his aid with Van Helsing in that movie also got him in hot water with Count Dracula (and all his other versions) as well as Dr. Frankenstein (while not the evil Baron, Victor is frustrated at another evil depiction of him). Having been a Caveman before, he gets along with Loana and her tribe and even introduced her tribe to the concept of music. Like Paul, Ringo has met Kermit and Stan Lee before, and while Ringo and Stan still can't get a good comic idea they can both agree with, they remain good friends.

John Lennon: "I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we've passed the audition."

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 21st 2022 at 8:40:30 PM

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#193263: Sep 21st 2022 at 4:39:03 PM

Necromancer10 Buddy from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection

Buddy

#193264: Sep 21st 2022 at 4:42:24 PM

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Woagh

#193265: Sep 21st 2022 at 4:55:50 PM

Edited by DoodSlayer136 on Sep 21st 2022 at 4:56:02 AM

NOISE IS CALLING, PICK UP PHONE

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde

#193266: Sep 21st 2022 at 5:24:29 PM

Here's your last .

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"

Necromancer10 Buddy from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection

Buddy

#193267: Sep 21st 2022 at 6:13:31 PM

Really early draft of the League of Super Evil, four villains that not only commit evil actions that are more petty and childish than heinous, but with questionable success rate, pestering neighbors and other goofy heroes, including some who are expies of other famous heroes. Who would take L.O.S.E.'s actions very seriously as if they were serious crimes?

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Voltar, Doktor Frogg, Red Menace, and Doomageddon, Bedeviling Unholy Terror Team of Harmless Villainy (L.O.S.E.)

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Counter-clockwise from the bottom: Voltar, Doktor Frogg, Red Menace, Doomageddon

Potential Hall: Villainous Success And Failure
Demigods^note (Doomageddon is a borderline Lesser Deity)
Symbol: The "League of Super Evil" logo
Theme Song: League of Super Evil - Title/Opening
Alignment: "True" Chaotic Evil (Some consider Red Menace to be Chaotic Neutral or even Good)
Portfolio: Villain Protagonists, Harmless Villains In Threat And Intention, Considering Themselves As Successful Supervillains Regardless
- Voltar: Small Bratty, and Petty Villain Wannabe, Attention Whore, Pointy-Haired Boss, Ambiguously Human, Large Ham, Expressive Mask, Forsakes Actual Opportunities For Greater Villainy In Favor Of Petty Acts
- Doktor Frogg: Butt-Monkey, Mad Scientist Yet Most Practical Member, Hates Good Things, Deadpan Snarker, The Smart Guy
- Red Menace: Dumb Muscle, Extremely Nice Villain To The Point Of Being The Token Good Teammate, Minion with an F in Evil, Gentle Giant With Some "Girly" Interests, The Brute
- Doomageddon: Team Pet, "Doomhound", Big Eater, Extreme Omnivore, Messes With His Team For Fun, Combo Platter Powers
Domains: Pettiness, Villains, Neighborhood Menaces, Harmlessness
Heralds: Henchbots 17 and 32
Allies:
- Fellow "L.O.S.E.R.S."^note: Jack Spicer, Dick Dastardly, The Team Rocket Trio, The Amoeba Boys, I. M. Meen
- Others: Professor Nutmeg, Robbie Rotten, Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, The Doronbo Gang
Rivals: Zim, Strong Bad, Suction Cup Man
Disappointments to: The Grand United Alliance of Evil

Enemies: The MEGAS Crew (mainly Coop), Eustace Bagge, Rottweiler, Dennis the Menace, The K.N.D., Professor Poopypants, Patrick Star, The Cabbage Merchant, Spider-Man, Ecco
- For Doomageddon: SCP-524, GIR, Perry The Platypus
With evil able to lurk in every street and avenue, one particular neighborhood would become the hideout of four particular villains dedicated to the most immoral things they can think of. Within Metrotown lies the infamous League of Super Evil, a group of villains that scheme to menace heroes and citizens alike through... rather petty and silly acts. Despite what their name indicates, the four members of this group are seen as simple Ineffectual Sympathetic Villains that are in fact overlooked by many heroes, as much as they try to show themselves off, with mainly the sillier and more often than not more powerful individuals among them entertaining their presented threats, to hilarious results. It's not that the League of Super Evil is overlooked just for failing their evil plans often, but it's also that such plans, whether they work out or not, simply aren't really much more than inconveniences to others, relative to even the goofier villains the Pantheon contains.
The League of Super Evil decided to set up a scheme to trick their neighbors into believing they were gods, in order to earn their worship and their pocket change to fund other projects. While their shoddy theatrics didn't get much attention, they received a letter from someone that appeared to have fallen for the trick, inviting them to a more prosperous place known as the Pantheon. With no hesitation, they followed the directions for the purpose of spreading their evil to the Pantheon, and in the process, sending their own intimidating message to the Pantheon with a device attached to the letter. Said message ended up spreading gossip among the Pantheon's other villains who speculated on who the four arriving villains were. A few of them were even expecting a similarly grouped yet vastly different of evil protagonists. Needless to say, those villains were sorely disappointed at the actual arrivals, who were quick to nab the Harmless Villain trope the letter offered them. As for why they took the trope, Voltar interpreted the trope's true meaning as a plead of mercy saying "Harm less, Villain!" Given how the trope fit them anyway, those who scoffed at how incompetent and silly they were would be displeased to know that they had a valid reason to have the trope and stay in the Pantheon.
It took no time at all for the League of Super Evil to completely forget about their previous plan in favor of showing the Pantheon their beloved brand of evil. The forces of L.O.S.E. would begin menacing the Pantheon by setting up barbeques without inviting others, wearing socks with sandals, jaywalking in the House of Plants ^note, and vandalizing the workstation of some unfortunate reporter named Clark Kent with permanent marker, confetti, and worn out batteries. (No one knows if they even suspected said reporter to have some hidden identity on a whim, let alone knew while they were doing their work.) For all their troubles, they just got a bunch of complaints about their fashion crime from some witnesses. As much as Frogg complained that weren't going big enough, Voltar decided he was satisfied with the current situation and declared that their operations were successful, and they would do more evil the next day.
They oppose the GUAG out of principle given that the latter is good and the League of Super Evil is well, evil. On occasion, they try to find ways to ruin the GUAG's day or to annoy their members when they aren't plotting against their annoyed neighbors, in manners similar to their usual business. The GUAG, being busy with handling more threatening villains or handling bigger civil issues, mostly ignore the League of Super Evil to minimize the time they take being distracted by them, with an occasional and clueless do-gooder sometimes trying to stop them. Results from here can vary from the League of Super Evil being carried out of GUAG territory to the hero realizing that their newest scheme doesn't actually hurt anyone, letting them off with a warning that is imminently ignored. For the most part, Voltar and his cohorts see this as the GUAG being afraid of them and being careful with them as to avoid their wrath. Dr. Frogg wasn't a big fan of this conclusion, but decided that menacing the much more serious heroes and law enforcement wasn't worth it either.

Edited by Necromancer10 on Sep 21st 2022 at 9:26:06 AM

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DoodSlayer136 Woagh from Pizza Tower (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Woagh

#193268: Sep 21st 2022 at 7:06:45 PM

Red Menace would probably like Kronk, the former minion of Yzma that, like Red, is a sincerely nice person that's only evil because his boss is, and isn't very good at being evil other than being the Dumb Muscle.

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lawliet-saw-whet Resident Trope Lurker from Your Head, In Your Head, Zombie, Zombie Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady

Resident Trope Lurker

#193269: Sep 21st 2022 at 7:52:00 PM

John Lennon: "We're more popular than TvTropes now!"

@Necromancer10 - Ohh, I know this show.

Hates minor crimes:
- The Dark Judges - As they consider life itself to be a crime (since all those who commit it are alive), they would treat even minor crimes as punishable by death.
- Teru Mikami - driven to near-insane lengths for his childish sense of justice to point that he's willing to kill people for even more minor offenses. The fact that LOSE align themselves as villains is enough for him to want to kill them if he has his Death Note.
- Light Yagami (to a lesser extend) - once he gets rid of all major criminals, he would probably get rid of people who doesn't fit his image of his "New World". Despite that, he probably thinks the team are not worth his time tho.
- Miko Miyazaki - a paladin who insist that all crimes should be punished with severe prejudice.
- Inspector Javert - this is the man who hunted down another man to no end after he escaped for his crime of "stealing a loaf of bread" . God forbid he would be assigned arrest them for one of their antics.

While I change the links and work on my new profile (which would hope be shorted than this), I wanted to propose these profiles for future use (and I'm fine with others adopting it while I work on the other stuff).

Jack Malik, Divine Representative of Plagiarism in Fiction - As a struggling musician, Jack finds his luck after a global blackout wiped the existence of certain objects and ideas, which include The Beatles. Being one of the handful of people who know the band, Jack starts to made covers of their songs and passing it as his own, gaining world wide fame in the process while starting to suffer the consequence of it. While not the first film or media to use this idea in fiction, it is one of the few movies that mainly revolves around this premise rather than a side plot. Even if some movie critics think it doesn't drive depth enough on what would logically happened if the Beatles never existed, it does use The Beatles as the main force to explore what would happen if a person gets the same level of fame that they didn't deserve to have.
Monty Python, Divine Comedic Troupe of Spam and Those Who Do Not Like It - This British comedy troupe, best known for their sketch works such as Monty Python's Flying Circus, Monty Python and the Holy Grail and Monty Python's Life of Brian, had its fair share of shout-outs to their sketches, being an influence of a lot of comedians, animators and others alike. One of these sketches is the famous Spam sketch, where a couple tries to order breakfast from a restaurant only from the waitress to tell them that all of their menu have spam in it, which the lady patron doesn't like, only for the waitress to insist them on ordering anyway. It's so (in)famous that this is why unwanted junk email is often referred to as "Spam" as well as the term "Spamming" and "Spam Attack" as a nod to the sketch. Their dual title also help highlights the surreal and contradictory nature of their comedy which they are known for. It helps that a play inspired by 'Holy Grail' Spamalot is also sponsored by Spam.

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 21st 2022 at 11:03:52 PM

Mood Status: Currently suffering from cringe.

Rich4 Since: Oct, 2017

#193270: Sep 21st 2022 at 11:47:31 PM

Why hasn't All For One been added to My Hero Academia Pantheon?

He could be the god of Sadism and Quirks, and the patron god of Maou the Demon King tropes.

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form

#193271: Sep 22nd 2022 at 12:06:52 AM

Sadism and Maou the Demon King are taken. I don’t think Quirks is a trope, and MHA Profiles are on hold until 2 months after it finishes. Tomura isn’t ascended yet either.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Sep 22nd 2022 at 12:09:27 PM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

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#193272: Sep 22nd 2022 at 12:21:45 AM

for Jack. I honestly prefer for the Monty Python guys to take a trope that's more representative of their overall work than just one (iconic) sketch.

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lawliet-saw-whet Resident Trope Lurker from Your Head, In Your Head, Zombie, Zombie Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady

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#193273: Sep 22nd 2022 at 1:27:13 AM

That's fair. Knowing these guys, they would have preferred to not be defined by a single sketch too. I'll try to keep looking for a better trope for them as I do believe deserve better than the previous profile which got them deleted.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#193274: Sep 22nd 2022 at 3:35:06 AM

I have a couple of Jojo ideas in mind (none from Part 6). What do you think?

J.Geil, God of Reflective Teleportation (Hall of Teleporting, Chaotic Evil)-J.Geil is Polneraff's Token Motivational Nemesis and a Stand User. His Stand, Hanged Man, only exists in reflective surfaces and the world of mirrors. Despite moving at light-speed Hanged Man is limited to teleporting in a reflective manner and a linear pathway. He's even the trope image. Restoration of an old profile by Geheyadren
Soundman, God of Sound Manipulation: known as Sandman by white people, his Stand is In A Silent Way. It weaponizes written sound effects, "storing" sounds in objects in order to use them like traps by storing hazardous sounds in places

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde

#193275: Sep 22nd 2022 at 7:11:23 AM

Honestly, I'm not even sure of these choices. I get that J. Geil and Soundman do represent their tropes well, but I personally find their characters to not really be all that interesting or stand out.

The only reason I would even give them a is if there really is no other viable choice to consider. So in this case, I'll be abstaining and wait to see the consensus of others as well before a final decision is made.

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