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Removing spoilers (Resolved)
Edit: After seeing other edits Inkster has made, they seem to be going around pages removing spoilers willy nilly on grounds that the characters are Walking Spoilers. They even made an entirely new section on this page just for three characters with endgame spoilers. Surely that isn't just blanket permission to do so, right?
On Kirby - Villainous Factions, Inkster612 removed every single spoiler tag, even though a lot of those spoilers are major plot points, and did something that rendered every em dash as a question mark symbol. Is there a way to fix this?Edited by Steven-Keys
Edit warring on Character page
ahaider19 added a Freudian Excuse entry to Characters.Pokemon Sun And Moon Lusamine which I removed since it was 1) not a childhood occurrence, and 2) was already covered by Start of Darkness, only for them to just put it back without an edit reason.Edited by rmctagg09
Possible Trope Misuse (EDITED)
Fire Country currently has a YMMV entry that feels like a case of trope misuse:
- Uncertain Audience: Those who live in California and thus might be drawn to a show about their area are also likely to be turned off because it reminds them of personal tragedies.
There is not a single person in California who is untouched by fires. Some have lost loved ones and homes. […] Watching a poorly animated CGI fire rip through the landscape is not a fictional thrill for any of us. Would CBS have made “Hurricane Country,” showing people dying and losing their homes to hurricanes every week? –SFGate review
EDIT: Apparently there isn't a minimum number of tropes needed for a YMMV page, so I've struck that part from the ATT.Edited by RebelFalcon
MohamedGPYT... again Western Animation
Mohamed GPYT is still struggling to make proper edits.In this edit alone, they:
- Added a Chained Sinkhole to an example.
- Added Word Cruft ("Jesus!") to said example.
- Inserted Fridge Horror despite Nightmare Fuel disallowing so.
- Changed the trope name Oh, Crap! for a highlighted part of text with an incorrect Mass "Oh, Crap!".
I'm the one who fixed up the example ^before Mohamed re-edited it, and I don't want to risk re-editing it for fear of an Edit War.Edited by skan123
Incorrect Info on HatedByAll?
Spinixster recently added these two examples to Hated by All regarding two characters from Danganronpa V 3, with one of them stating a big spoiler for the game without hiding the text, which I have hid for this question.
- Miu Iruma is a Thin-Skinned Bully who takes pleasure in making everyone around her feel offended and miserable with her insults, sexual comments, and sexual abuse and raping.
- Tsumugi Shirogane is, without a doubt, a demon from hell. She's a Villain with Good Publicity as she's the true host of Dangnaronpa having hosted 53 previous killing games, having no qualms with abusing, torturing, and giving the participants painful and horrific deaths for the sake of good television. In the end, Shuichi really gave her and Monokuma what they deserve.
For the first one, while Miu is certainly unpopular with the main cast due to her crude behavior, I don't recall her actually sexually assaulting anyone. The most I recall being her scene with K1-B0, which was mostly her making innuendos while giving him upgrades, which K1-B0 consented to I believe, and with Shuichi at the Love Hotel, which is a non-canon dream sequence that was played for laughs.
For the second one, Tsumugi isn't even the real mastermind behind the game. That would be the producers of the in-universe Danganronpa. There doesn't even seem to be anything stating that she was the host, with her role being more as a mole.
What should be done?Edited by ejmenendez
Can't send message
I'd like to send a message to a trope called E.T.G. but I can't (maybe because of the username. The reason is because of an edit they made, I added this example on the Multi-Animator Project page, but for some reason they slighly modified it here. Youtube Poop is an actual page, so the link should be keot, and it's a genre, not a work, so it shouldn't be italized.
Edit: I managed to send them message after all and the problem is settled, you can lock this querry.Edited by jOSEFdelaville
spinixster is a new troper who has been adding MST3000 and Danganronpa examples on pages that were frequently visited by a serial ban evader maisie345 / aproposer / leanlace. While I'm not confident as they're not restoring examples like last time, I find it interesting that their first area of work are the pages that had to be repeatedly reverted. Geo-check?Edited by MacronNotes
Super-sub trope relationships.
Bit of a weird one, this.
This is regarding a Raven Branwen Hypocrite entry on Characters.RWBY Anima.
Back in July 2021, gjjones initially removed it because the Hypocrite sub-trope Never My Fault was on her page. I added it back because the Never My Fault entry was a completely different example, and there was no sub-trope detailing the Hypocrite entry. They then changed it to Straw Hypocrite, so I started a discussion on the discussion page about whether that was an appropriate move (a straw hypocrite usually doesn't believe the argument they're making, which isn't the case here). They added the entry back to Hypocrite themselves.
They've just removed the entry on the grounds that the sub-tropes Never My Fault and Secretly Selfish are on the page. But, as per last time, these sub-trope entries are about different examples to the Hypocrite one.
So, this guideline about not allowing the super-trope if sub-tropes are on the page. It's about the same examples, isn't it? If Example A for Character Y is under a sub-trope and Example B fits better under the super-trope and not any sub-trope, is it okay to have the super-trope on the same page for Example B? And, if Example A fits better under a sub-trope, you shouldn't have it listed under the super-trope as well. That's what I thought the guideline was, at any rate. What's the right thing to do here about this entry? Is there a sub/super trope thread to ask about this?
- Hypocrite: Raven has a problematic view of family responsibilities. She feels Qrow's abandonment of the Branwen tribe is turning his back on family, but he feels she has no business lecturing him when she abandoned Taiyang and Yang. Qrow tells Yang Raven only contacts him when she wants him; once Yang seeks out Raven so she can take her to Qrow and Ruby, Raven complains about family only visiting when they need something.
A Potentially Concerning or Complain heavy Edit
I recently took note of the following edit by Doug Reeder on the Franchise Original Sin page for Star Wars: A New Hope establishes that droids can be sympathetic characters, that is, people. It also establishes their status as property with no rights, that is, slaves. When the good characters are stuggling for their existence against space fascists, the viewer can overlook them ignoring slavery. In the morally grayer story of Solo, when L3-37 specifically calls for freeing droids, the viewer cannot overlook that the "good" protagonists dismiss her claims. Nor that the work treats her as a Soapbox Sadie, when she is absolutely right. The film then silences her, so it can continue to ignore her claims. As it stands, part of me can't help but wonder if there is legitimate reason for concern in regards to this edit or if I'm just imagining things. Thoughts?Edited by SimbafanA1
The movie’s Trivia, change or delete? Film
I found this from Trivia / Hidalgo just underneath the Multiple Languages, Same Voice Actor.
- Wild American Mustangs today are threatened with extinction (along with wild burros) due to the Bureau of Land Management's roundups and mass slaughter. If you want to help, go to The American Wild Horse Campaign.
Horror High (1973) Film
Has anyone seen the 1973 film Horror High? It stars Pat Cardi, John Niland, and Austin Stoker and is about a bullied science nerd who gets revenge on his teachers by becoming a werewolf monster and killing them. I think it would make a good trope page
While As the Good Book Says... is defined as when a character quotes The Bible, what trope is it when a character quotes another holy text, like The Qur'an? I specify the Qur'an because it's popped up in a webcomic I've read, and I wanted to trope it under As the Good Book Says... but thought it wouldn't fit perfectly.
Could the trope be redefined as referencing any religious text, then?Edited by Lapsem
Troper with Poor Grammar and some other Issues
Felippe has been on my radar for a little while now and I think it's finally time to call attention to them. They have consistently poor edits with bad grammar and other sloppy mistakes, such as:
- Swapping a trope to use a redirect
- Unexplained deletions (Granted, the example was kinda badly written, but...)
- Trope misuse
If their name sounds familiar, maybe it's because they're the troper who got caught changing images to Helluva Boss ones without discussion. They haven't done that since, but the sloppy nature of their editing (and their bad grammar despite being notified) warrants a report.
There is an active crowner for The Woman Wearing the Queenly Mask at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
There is an active crowner for Darkseid Duplicate at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
Which tropes fits better for an upcoming example? (Moved to trope finder) Live Action TV
So I was trying to make a new example for a character page of The Glory about Park Yeon-Jin. But I can't tell which tropes fit the description, Stepford Smiler, Broken Smile, The Unsmile, or Tearful Smile?
- In the final episode, while sitting in a prison cell, motionless with tears in her eyes, Yoen-Jin was asked what's the weather by an inmate, she quickly put up an act as a weather forecaster just like she was before, fake smiling while visibly tears up and nearly sobbing because lost everything, her job, husband, daughter, mother, and her freedom.
Sorry was it long, I'll fix it by sending it to the English forum. So which tropes fits the description?Edited by Bubblepig
Is calling out transphobia "too controversial" for this wiki?
LucienRen deleted an entry in Zero Punctuation added by Cronosonic that went as follows:
- Yahtzee's review of Hogwarts Legacy has him take the rare pleasure of ripping into the game not only for its own merits, but also because of the anti-trans views of J.K. Rowling. Unlike other outlets which actively danced around the uncomfortable topic, Yahtzee makes it perfectly clear what he thinks of Rowling right out of the gate without reservation and is very happy that he can tell people not to buy it both because of Rowling being a C-word and also because the game isn't worth buying on its own merits.
He did it with the edit reason that it is "too controversial"
Leaving aside that this is Yahtzee who is no stranger to controversy or swearing on his Zero Punctuation show, J.K. Rowling's transphobia is well known - I would hardly call it controversial to say that she's not exactly a proponent of Trans rights.
I'd have added in the quote again considering I'm not the person who wrote it to begin with and thus wouldn't be Edit War'ing, but I also realize that I have my personal biases here (I'm a CIS male who believes trans rights are human rights).
So therefore I come to you. Is calling out transphobia too controversial for this Wiki?Edited by Theharbo
Do Reviews have any rules? Literature
Mostly asking this because, before I request this page to be moved due to deprecation of the LightNovel/ namespace, I'm wondering if this barebones review is even worth keeping along with the page move.