Trope Pantheons Discussion

What else is left to say about these presidents?

The Horned Serpent, God of Mortals That Became Abominations (The Libertylurker, Hanodaganears^note means "The Devourer of Villages, The Man Beneath America, Climber, The Underground God, The True Ruler Beneath Our Feet. Birth name: George Washington)

^{Click here to see it escaping the Statue of Progress} 

^{Click here to see it when freed (SPOILERS)} 

• Hall: Humanoids (Hall of Otherness)
• Overdeity
• Symbol: A bicorn hat with actual horns
• Theme Song: Statue of Liberty Eventual Departure
• Alignment: Chaotic Evil
• Portfolio: Serpentine Transhuman Abomination That Used To Be George Washington, Horns of Villainy, To Serve Man, Fed Through The Statue Of Liberty's Podium, Being The Source of the Deanverse's Problems, The Great Serpent, Spikes of Villainy, The Source of The Special Trees, The Bad Guy Wins...In One Timeline, That Is , Religious and Mythological Theme Naming
• Domains: Analog Horror, Abominations, America, Transformations, Alternate History, Monsters, Sacrifice
• Alternate Self: The human George Washington
• Interested in: Tzeentch, the Sarkic Cults, SCP-169, The Enclave, Governor Ratcliffe, The Reverberation Ensemble
• Allies: Death Phantom, Apophis, Colossatron, Nyarlathotep (Cthulhu Mythos), Bill Cipher, Dark Gaia, Alice (Bibliomania)
• On good terms with: Nightmare (Kirby), Wizeman
• Rivals: Cthulhu, Lord English, Giygas, Funny Valentine, Ragyo Kiryuin
  • Friendly Rivals: The Alternates (especially Gabriel), Father of the Homunculi
• Enemies: The main timeline George Washington, Quetzacoatl, Tezcatlipoca, the SCP Foundation, the Men in Black, every other president of the United States Of America (especially Ulysses S Grant), Alucard, Dream of the Endless, Anyone passionate about the US (eg: Steve Rogers), Native Americans like Michelle and Julia Change, Ludwig the Accursed, The Hazardous Environment Combat Unit, Black Ops
• The America of the Alternate History of THE MONUMENT MYTHOS is littered with skeletons in its closet. The government covers up the existence of gods and monsters under the country, sacrificing people to appease them and many national monuments have a sinister history. Under the podium of the Statue of Liberty is the maw of the Horned Serpent, a colossal, god-like beast tied to the multi-dimensional Special Trees that is given Human Sacrifice through the podium. Once it was human, but after trying to cut down a Special Tree fell into Wonderland and was gradually transformed into an abomination.
• The beast is seen as symbolic of America's spotty history with immigrants and other minorities, and it is not a mindless animal; it has subtly manipulated history by commanding key figures to do its bidding by sinking into their dreams. It is described as "the true ruler of America", and it regards all ascended U.S presidents as potential pawns or fools. They consider it as an abomination they're uncomfortable with, even Frank Underwood^note not because Even Evil Has Standards, he just doesn't want to die. This is personal with Ulysses S Grant since in the Deanverse, he was the one who damned him to be a prisoner in the podium. The beast may be "the true ruler of America" in the Deanverse, but every single American is horrified by it, which wasn't helped when they learned who the Horned Serpent used to be.
• The Horned Serpent wasn't the only entity of Analog Horror to make its way to the Trope Pantheon; when Special Trees started sprouting in the Trope Pantheon and a terrible stench could be smelt from a replica of the Statute of Liberty, an entity claiming to be the Archangel Gabriel was waiting. "Gabriel", actually an incarnation of Satan, introduced itself as one of the Alternates, malicious shapeshifters who Kill and Replace. And he was the true ruler of his world, having become a Demiurge of his setting. The Horned Serpent announced itself as a the true, secret ruler of America and mentioned that it sees much of itself within "Gabriel". However it claimed to be the superior being and though it would not bow or kneel to anyone. The Alternates took that as a challenge to their own hegemony, but "Gabriel" agreed they were more similar than different and that he wants to talk to The Man Beneath America again.
• Funny Valentine sees potential in possibly exploiting it for the benefit of the country; he wants to understand the Special Trees and the multi-dimensional nature of the Horned Serpent for his own benefit. The Horned Serpent respects Valentine's belief that America should be the supreme nation even at the rest of the world's expense given its history and twisted pride in its work, but is also wary that it cannot be certain it is beyond his Stand's effects. As for why that might even be a concern, keep reading. For those wondering, while it is concerned with his Stand's power the Horned Serpent laughs at any attempt Funny Valentine may have trying to control it. Maize Machines tried the same thing, only for it to end disastrously.
• The Horned Serpent is also known as Hanodaganears, a Native American word meaning "destroyer of villages" that was given to George Washington. This is not a coincidence; the original form of the Horned Serpent is the Deanverse version of the Founding Father, as a result of trying to cut a Special Tree. The main timeline George Washington was mortified to learn that the abomination was a version of himself. In Washington's opinion, the Horned Serpent is the embodiment of his worst attributes, acts he committed that were once tolerated by society, but now regarded as a black mark. Even with the reveal of there's another Washington frozen in the Delaware river he does not count this as proof the Horned Serpent isn't a version of him, as the Special Trees can access other universes.
• The SCP Foundation's attempt to understand the discrepancies of the Horned Serpent and the historically understood George Washington is further complicated by having their own version; a robot meant to replace him when he died too early. It's theorized that the organic Washington was revived and cut down the Special Tree, leading to it becoming the Horned Serpent, while SCP-2776 became president...but they admit they could be wrong. For now they're writing off the Horned Serpent as a Keter anomaly and are using their resources to hide the anomalies associated with it and find a more controllable way of containing the beast. This doesn't benefit the Devourer of Villages in the slightest, so it has decided to try and pressure government officials to oppose the SCP Foundation and leave it alone.
• The Men in Black have been trying to minimize the damage it causes. However, it did at least like learning about the Foundation because of the anomalies they are studying and/or containing. Perhaps the most intriguing to Eldritch Washington is SCP-169, a massive arthropod thousands of miles in length. The Horned Serpent wants to take the Leviathan as a pet. It also wishes to understand Sarkicism more, as they can use flesh manipulation and anomalies to potentially ascend to eldritch gods akin to itself. The Hazardous Environment Combat Unit and Black Ops found the fact this thing used to be human unnerving and as they specialize in counteracting apocalyptic alien invasions and the fact it used to be George Washington is why they seek to cover its existence up after successfully containing it. There's some irony that a (trans)human may be a bigger threat than any alien they've had to deal with.
• The eldritch Founding Father sees some of itself in other deities. For instance, it notes that Alucard was once a mighty king with a past drenched in blood that become something akin to a god. The No-Life King is disgusted by the Horned Serpent as it is a validation that pure humanity will always be better than monsters like them. The Horned Serpent sees more of itself in Giygas, who while starting as an alien was also twisted into something inhumanly power and incomprehensible...however the monstrous serpent boasts that it kept its mind while Giygas is void of reason. Ludwig the Accursed, though turned into the same beast he had thought, is disgusted by the serpentine Washington throwing away its former species.
• Ragyo Kiryuin thinks quite differently and sees its potential goals akin to that of the Primordial Life Fiber. However, she has no interest in working with the beast, even if she respects its renouncement of humanity. Another entity that felt itself agreeing with the Horned Serpent's liberation from its past humanity is Alice, an ill princess who became a world-destroying monstrosity sought to consume the souls and experience of every single human on Earth. She's even serpentine, and all this for a mad love of knowledge. The Horned Serpent regards her as a kindred spirit. The Libertylurker is similarly interested in the Reverberation Ensemble as they're a group primarily made up of humans so overtaken by their innermost desires and emotions it turned them into reflections of such wants.. Each member harbors a different motive and worldview, but they all seek to transform the rest of humanity living within the City into Distoritons like them.
• Should the Horned Serpent escape, the sheer size and eldritch-ness of the entity would cause the end of the world. Or more accurately break the Earth like an egg, which eventually happened anyway. Because of this, the GUAD considers freeing the Horned Serpent as beneficial. The Lovecraftian Washington acknowledges the GUAD is "beneficial for now" and has decided to make friends with Apophis and the Colossatron. However it regards this more as wanting some muscle than someone to debate with. The Horned Serpent prefers talking with one of its rivals, Father. Father was the secret fonder and Shadow Dictator of Amestris until his defeat, manipulating things to make it a militaristic nation all for the ultimate goal of achieving godhood. The Horned Serpent has a similar scheme of hidden but massive manipulation to the USA so it likes Father's strategies, though even if he likes him Father considers the Horned Serpent an obstacle to his own path to ultimate power.
• Outside of its multi-dimensionality, massive size and apparent connection to the Special Trees, the Horned Serpent can command key figures to do its by sinking into their dreams. One such example was commanding Ferdinand de Lesseps to build the Suez Canal through telepathically talking to him and invading his dreams until he caved. The entity's infiltration and manipulation of dreams has potentially put it on the naughty list of Dream of the Endless, much to the beast's consternation as even a being as mighty as it is small compared to a member of the Endless. Nightmare and Wizemen were intrigued, however, and wish to study the monster. The Liberty Lurker is flattered, though it prefers using this dream-based talent on "useful idiots"; it wants to subtly manipulate Governor Ratcliffe and the Enclave to shape the American continent to yet disclosed specifications.
• The Horned Serpent knows there are a variety of eldritch abominations that have their own plans for the Earth/universe, and by extension America. It has decided to research them and hedge its bets on who it wants on their side, and who it can't afford as an ally.
  • It has the respect of Death Phantom and Bill Cipher. The former was once a man, but merged with the Planet Nemesis to become a true nightmare of an Omnicidal Maniac. He isn't sure what the Horned Serpent has in store after "The Great Division" but does know said division involves damaging the universe beyond repair, which he wants to see happen. Bill Cipher has a similarly apocalyptic goal called "Weirdmageddon" which would through reality into chaos he can make his playground. Bill has been influencing history for a long time and though to what extent is unclear, he was in contact with George Washington. The Horned Serpent has told him "no hard feelings" for invading its mind with nightmares while still human, as it can finally "see the bigger picture". The eldritch Washington would also "liberate" its home universe not too dissimilarly to Bill Cipher.
  • Superficially it could be compared to Cthulhu and Dark Gaia, being a slumbering abomination who's awakening would threaten or cause the end of the world. Though the latter (as much as a bestial entity like itself) seems to be pleased by the idea of the Horned Serpent's awakening, the Great Old One does not trust the entity in part because it used to be human, and in part because he sees a "territorial dispute" since he has his own plans for the Earth. The Outer God Nyarlathotep also has his own plans, but he is more amused than anything by the Horned Serpent as the Crawling Chaos also seeks to bring about an age of chaos and madness. For now, the Liberty Lurker has his vote.
• The Horned Serpent is an actual character in the mythologies of many Native American tribes. Given its actions as a human towards the Iroquois, you can guess any and every Native American hates it...though given its goals, you'd have to be deluded, pretty damn evil and/or an Omnicidal Maniac not to hate this dark take on a Founding Father. It was interested in other great and terrible serpents from mythology, such as the Midgard serpent. Jormungandr has expressed interest at learning about a serpent of comparable size, but has yet to state what his true feelings on the Lovecraftian Founding Father are yet. Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca have stated their feelings, however. The former is appalled as he is one of few Aztec deities to not demand massive Human Sacrifice, which the Horned Serpent has done both with gusto and only to benefit itself. The latter is reminded of Cipactli and sees the Horned Serpent as a being so sinister in its goals and acts he feels he may need to step in and intervene.
• The connection to the Special Trees is deeper than "it was created by them"; they're extensions of the Horned Serpent, and have been around since at least Ancient Egypt. By extension, this makes the perverted form of Washington a product of his own handiwork. Comparisons were made to Lord English, a hulking reality-ending cherub who got where he is through bootstrap paradoxes. The Horned Serpent was impressed by his machinations, but considers LE to be "an interloper". In truth, the corrupted Founding Father is simply terrified of his war path as the angel of double death outclasses him.
• Essentially victorious in emerging as the Earth as a result of climatic conflict between Freedom and the Angel. The survivors of "the Great Division" became the Cornerfolk. At least in one timeline. One of the survivors and the ashes of the Angel were able to go back in time and create a timeline where the Horned Serpent wasn't released. Unfortunately it also revealed that there were three serpents. One was dormant on Mars because it was too cold until a nuke was dropped, and another supposedly died on Venus because it was too hot. Supposedly being the key word. Fortunately a merger of the Angel, Freedom and Everett stopped the Martian Serpent...but the Horned Serpent should still be lurking underground in the "Montyverse", and who knows how its plans have changed.

James Dean, God of of Historical Figures With Different Roles In Different Timelines (Jimmy, President Dean, 37th President of the United States, Satan)

• Halls: Influential Figures (House of Legacy and Influence), Other Dimensions (House of Space and Cosmos)
• Demigod, possibly Lesser if he's anomalous
• Symbol: His MAIZE hearing aids
• Theme Song: The Larry Page Orchestra
• Alignment: Lawful Neutral, though some might argue Lawful Evil instead
• Portfolio: Alternate History in Analog Horror, James Dean The 37th President, Charm Person, somewhat of an Action Politician, Possibly An Affable Villain with Good Publicity (at worst, a Well-Intentioned Extremist, also Ambiguously Human, Determinator
• Domains: Analog Horror, U.S Presidents, Charisma, Alternate History, Ambiguity, Race Cars
• Under the watch of: The SCP Foundation, The Men In Black
• Allies: John F Kennedy, Lightning McQueen, Dominic Toretto
• Headbutting Heroes with: Steve Rogers/Captain America, Clark Kent/Superman, Theodore Roosevelt
• Friendly Rivalry with: The Hypnotoad
• Enemies: Frank Underwood, Funny Valentine, Apophis, the Alternates, Col. Benjamin Button, Charles Victor Szasz/the Question, Walter Kovacs/Rorschach, Johan Liebert, Senator Seven Armstrong, 50 Blessings
• Distrusted by: Various conspiracy theorists in the Trope Pantheon
• Pities: Richard Nixon's head
• The world of THE MONUMENT MYTHOS is another timeline where many American landmarks and iconography have a dark, otherworldly secret to them. One of the changes to the timeline is to actor James Dean; in this universe he never died of a car crash. Instead he would eventually get into politics, and in 1968 won a landslide election against Richard Nixon. President Dean was a wildly popular president who initially focused on bringing the troops back from Vietnam, and he would legalize same-sex marriage while also supporting the Civil Rights movement. However he would deal with a domestic terrorist group called the Anti-Dean Association/ADA, who treated him like the Devil and caused a variety of incidents like mass deafness. He would serve two full terms.
• When learning of the "main" timeline, all he had to say was "I'm surprised". As Dean likely knows where some of the multiple dimension doppelgangers come from, it could be a privately sarcastic moment. He was kind of upset to learn that his OTL counterpart died in a car accident, but he is more glad to see that OTL lacks the various anomalies causing problem for the nation. He still needs a guide to the differences between the timelines, so he has tried to get advice on the differences from Presidents Kennedy and Ford as they're the closest presidents to him timeline-wise. Dean has taken a particular liking to the former as he's a handsome, young and incredibly charismatic Democrat not afraid to let their disability get in the way of dealing with crises; Kennedy the Cuban Missile Crisis, and Dean the Anti-Dean Association terrorist group.
• How many presidents in OTL were also presidents in the Deanverse isn't clear, asides from the obvious exception of Nixon (and by implication, Gerald Ford). He tries to be generally cordial with them, though it is unknown how he would react to George Washington since if he knows who the Horned Serpent was, he knows the evil he has potential for. Theodore Roosevelt respects him for his willingness to take a personal hand fighting American threats, though he can't say he trusts Dean outright. Ford thinks that he needs to lighten up, though maybe that's just because he has more chill than most presidents.
• James Dean tries to be friendly with other leaders, however he shows nothing but contempt for Frank Underwood. Yes you can argue Dean is evil, and Frank is quick to point out his ethically dubious actions, but he genuinely means well and wants to help America in his own way. By contrast Frank is an entirely myopic leader who only sees America for how it can serve his interests and ego. Dean has called President Underwood a terrorist for organizing cyber attacks that lead to numerous horrible riots and accidents and sitting idly by as sarin gas is deployed against countless innocents, outright declaring Underwood an enemy of the United States just like the ADA. Dean is a lot less venomous in his response with Funny Valentine as he respects his dedication to American exceptionalism, but he disagrees on how he disregards the rest of the world to do so and considers him potentially dangerous.
• In his timeline while Nixon lost decisively, the two remained on good terms with each and liked to race cars with one another. There's an element of tragedy considering that Nixon would survive as a god-like entity and orchestrate Dean's death in another timeline in part to try and make sure that reality doesn't suffer as his own did. While OTL Nixon was considered too controversial to ascend, his 31st century head in a jar was fair game. Dean pities how he has stewed in his resentment and became an insane President Evil, though the Earth president has no idea what he's talking about. However he was able to warm up a bit to the cyborg president with a derby race.
• James Dean is under investigation by both the Men in Black and the SCP Foundation for the fact he may be an anomalous entity. He was able to be elected effortlessly off apparent sheer charisma and uses mere honeyed words to win the hearts of thousands. He even distracted Nixon with derby races and even when the sound was cut out of an ad, people still cheered. The thing is, however, that there is nothing that 100% proves he's not just an ABSURDLY charismatic man. In addition, President Dean believes co-operation for both secretive groups is in his best interest. He knows more about the more clear-cut anomalies than the public does, but it's unknown to what extent asides from "definitely not as much as the Foundation and Men in Black would be able to find out". He's personally asked them to help him keep an eye on the alternate 23rd president as his interdimensional Stand might give him a better understanding on the capabilities of the Special Trees
• Magneto has his own theory for what James Dean really is; a mutant. Professor X asked "are you sure it's not just JFK like you claim", only for the former to go "it's an Alternate History, perhaps it was James instead of Jack". They're both in agreement that James Dean is not an Alternate. Asides from being from different types of Analog Horror, President Dean is actively opposing the Alternates. And it's not like the Alternates are known for infighting, or having any positive traits that Dean does. James Dean is paranoid about them because they're malevolent beings who reminds him of reports he got from Alcatraz, which assimilates and copies things. By the 2020s, it succeeds at replacing the entire U.S.
• It's not clear how much he is aware of the Horned Serpent and its true nature, though one of the major tech companies he collaborated with (Maize Machines) is aware of a lot. Possibly that the Horned Serpent is the Deanverse's George Washington. However Dean has publicly stated that he has a special concern surrounding giant monstrous snakes like Apophis (guess why). He also isn't that comfortable with the Aztec deities also existing to an extent in the Trope Pantheon given they're known for Human Sacrifice; it's a reminder of the dirty dealings his government has felt necessary. President Dean is relieved to know Quetzalcoatl is a giant serpent not interested in sacrifice.
• President Dean isn't outright evil and at worst he sits on the "well-intentioned" side of the Well-Intentioned Extremist trope. But he has still been complicit in morally dubious acts, which is why paragons and exemplars of the American dream look at him with a hefty bit of skepticism. The 37th U.S President has a whole lot of respect for Captain America and Superman for all their work, however they are wary of Dean. He's certainly a better president and person than Lex Luthor was, but they can't shake off the feeling he probably shouldn't be allowed the amount of power he has. To his credit, James Dean has made no moves against them in part because "I'm not stupid enough to believe getting rid of two of Earth's great protectors would ever be a good thing". To Dean's fans they applauded wildly, but cynics just thought this was a case of Pragmatic Villainy.
• Conspiracy theorists don't like Dean since even if many think the ADA's claims he's Satan to be Malicious Slander, they do think he's some sort of Humanoid Abomination up to even more shady activity than what's been revealed. The Question is currently trying to kidnap him to find out his deal and expose whatever his real goal is. These conspiracy theories include being in collusion with The Patriots and the Enclave, but as far as any serious research into the Dean administration has considered he is merely intrigued by them. Rorschach is of a similar mind to the Question that James Dean is dangerous and must be stopped, which was fueled by his moral absolutism and reactionary/conservative political views.
• Though the ADA aren't reliable narrators, Dean does have a dark side. He sacrificed members of the ADA, merging of all tech companies into a single government- controlled entity and erasure, and is a potent enough Charm Person that some have seen it as evidence he's not truly human. However at worst his more amoral actions were done for the good of his country, and he isn't the first that had to sacrifice people to the Special Trees and Freedom. Senator Armstrong respects this resolve in doing what's necessary, but he fears what he's doing may make America weak. James Dean isn't fond of Armstrong as he sees him as a loose cannon, but he does admit it's out of a desire to better the country...he understands that.
• Curing deafness was an important part of his administration after the ADA terrorist attack that deafened millions, Dean included, one of his focuses was curing deafness. He succeeded doing so across America thanks to implants, however his has been met by some criticism in the Hall of Disabilities given it was also an (unintentional) erasure of deaf culture. When asked if he would try to give an implant for other deaf deities, Dean tactfully stated "no comment" as he doesn't intend to cause controversy. Ruben Stone has come to accept his disability and isn't interested in any implants. Neither are Shoya Ishida or Shoko Nishimiya; again Dean isn't going to press the issue more than he should.
• In addition to paranormal terrorist groups, James Dean also takes umbridge with the more conventional hate group of the Klu Klux Klan. As with the OTL Presidents Kennedy and his successor, he was supportive of the Civil Rights movement and allowed a not assassinated Martin Luther King Jr to represent the cause in a speech about it. One of the main reasons the ADA opposed him is that they didn't like that he likes Jazz music and demonizes pre-Civil War slave laborers as incompetent. Col Benjamin believes that Dean is a Hypocrite; he condemns the terroristic ADA members to Human Sacrifice or turning them into the Canyon Crowns. Dean justifies this as a necessary evil, and it's not like he opposes the ADA on a racial basis.
• Farnsworth assumed Fry had messed up and "really screwed the granny again" for there to be a president James Dean, before realizing that James Dean was in fact part of a parallel universe. James Dean doesn't know and probably doesn't want to know what he's talking about, but he likes Fry's fashion sense since he rocks the look Dean had playing Jim Stark. Also of note is that Mordecai and Rigby have wondered if somehow the Canyon Crowns he keeps under wraps are distantly related to one Gary Bobby Ferguson. Though the world of Regular Show is anything but, Dean doubts the anomalies of his world could extend that far.
• On another light-hearted note, the Hypnotoad was annoyed by Dean's TV interviews distracting people from "Everybody Loves Hypnotoad", as the amphibian felt that Dean was stealing viewers away. The Hypnotoad confronted Dean with the intent to mind control him to humiliate the guy, but ended up seeing his ads and realizing the man's charisma is commendable. Though President Dean admitted that a sentient toad was "strange", he did reach out to the Hypnotoad by saying they could always race cars together...however that'd work with a toad. The Hypnotoad mind-controlled his chauffer to do so. On his off days you can see James Dean having fun with Dominic Toretto and trying to beat Lightning McQueen in a race. He's really gotten into Mario Kart as of late and often joins up with the Super Mario Bros. deities in their tournaments.
• It's not known what will happen if someone as skilled at the Breaking Speech and More than Mind Control as Johan Liebert meets as big of a Charm Person as James Dean. The latter isn't taking any chances and plans to shoot him on sight, since "he's just a man...probably". James Dean has no patience for his psychopathic nihilism or his crimes, no matter what the ADA say about him. He also doesn't have patience for another jingoistic terrorist group that calls itself the 50 Blessings, as he has no intention of becoming the president who ushers war with Russia to "make America strong or some nonsense the Janitors tell themselves".
• Two other timeline versions of James Dean are known to exist. The Nixonverse James Dean had the same life as his OTL self, but his death was caused by the Last Son. The Montyverse James Dean suffered a breakdown in his political career due to his sister's death and resigned himself to being vice president. He learned it was caused by one Howard Melrose and went on a blood path of vengeance, not knowing he was framed for what was a suicide. Grief has made him a monster.
• "This is Jimmy, signing off."

I have nothing so for both if you're accepting them now.

Once again, too big to have a second profile in it.

Littlepip, Goddess of Demographic-Dissonant Crossovers (LittlePip, Lil'Pip, Pip, The Stable Dweller, Toaster Repairpony, The Light Bringer, Wasteland Heroine, The Hellmare, The Destroyer, Princess of Stupid Decisions)

Her first original design courtesy of johnjoseco

Her most common artistic interpretation, as drawn by Rhodarein

• Potential House: Crossovers and References
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• Intermediate Goddess
• Symbol: A Pip-Buck, which also serves as her cutie mark
• Theme Song: Lil' Pip by PinkieGuy (Well, the closest possible given that as a fan character, all music pertaining to her will be fan music no matter what.)
• Alignment: Neutral Good
• Portfolio: Expert And Powerful Telekinetic (Which Is Her Only Magic Talent), Chronic Hero Syndrome, Curiosity Is a Crapshoot, Gadgeteer Genius, Good Is Not Soft, Partially Mutated Pony, Heroic Self-Deprecation, No Completely Guaranteed Plans, Master of Unlocking, Martyr Without a Cause, Colorful Cusser, Weak, but Skilled, Would Not Hurt A Child, Your Days Are Numbered, Not A Spirit of Harmony, But Their Spark, Healing Factor Though Radiation, Dented Iron, Pony Popsicle But Fully Conscious, I Should Write a Book About This
• Domain(s): Ponies, Unicorns, Gadgetry, Lockpicking, Apocalypse, Hope, Virtue: Sacrifice
• Heralds: Velvet Remedy (fellow former Stable-mate), Deadshot Calamity, SteelHooves/Applesnack, Homage/DJ Pon-3, Pyrelight (Velvet's pet balefire phoenix), Xenith, Life Bloom
• High Priest(esse)s: The Warlord of Aurora, Blackjack
• Allies:
  • Denizens of Equestria: Ditzy Doo, Princess Celestia, Spike, Rarity, Applejack (distant ancestor), Pinkie Pie (also possible distant ancestor), the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Twilight Sparkle, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, Princess Luna, Angel Bunny, Trixie Lulamoon, DJ Pon-3, Starlight Glimmer, Sunset Shimmer, Princess Cadance, Shining Armor, Maud Pie, Gilda, Crystal and Medley Brook
  • Others: The Equestria Girls, Megan Williams, the Courier, Marcus
• Enemies:
  • Denizens of Equestria: Lord Tirek, Queen Chrysalis, King Sombra, Nightmare Moon, the Dazzlings
  • Others: All slavers and supporters of slavery, The Enclave, drug dealers, cannibal clans, Grogar, Benny (Fallout), Father Elijah, "Big" Jack Horner
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Discord
• Respects: Joshua Graham
• Opposes: Set, Mr. House

• Littlepip is an intelligent, young unicorn mare who has spent all of her life in Stable 2, the counterpart to Vault-Tec Vaults. After her idol Velvet Remedy mysteriously departed the Stable, Littlepip made it her mission to follow Velvet out into the dangerous Equestrian Wasteland to bring her home, even after the Overmare has branded the both of them outcasts foe even leaving at all. However, Littlepip's desire to help others alters her course upon seeing the state of her homeland (as well as the faxct that Velvet is adamant in not returning) and she begins a new journey to restore Equestria to its former glory, which in this timeline (diverging from Season 2 after the events of "Lesson Zero", yet somehow before Discord's release^note  though it could be that the Red Eye cultists Littlepip overheard who were looking at the mural didn't recognize the Mane Six a.k.a. the Ministry Mares) has been devastated by an energy crisis, war with the Zebra empire over a misunderstanding, megaspell balefire bombs courtesy of the Ministry of Peace giving it to both sides (as a substitute for nukes) destroying much of the land, and the exodus of the pegasi race, who cover the sky in endless cloud, all taking place 200 years before the events of the story. Littlepip is driven by her need to help others and has a knack for hacking computer systems and lockpicking, but is a self-conscious and uncertain pony.
  • Littlepip had been the last among her peers to get her cutie mark. Since she was required to have one to be assigned work in Stable Two, the Overmare used an ancient bylaw to allow her to apprentice under a variety of positions until then. Most of these apprenticeships were administrative and technical. She finally got hers during time under the PipBuck Technician when a couple came in to report their missing son. Since her mentor was asleep at the time, Littlepip used the little-used feature of PipBucks tracking tagged objects, found the colt stuck in a maintenance shed, and picked the lock to get him out. She had been admonished for stealing equipment and lockpicking, but her mentor covered for her, and the Overmare didn't press the issue since that was when Littlepip got her cutie mark. And the rescue sparked her desire to help others regardless of consequences.
  • Over the course of only two months, Littlepip dismantled a raider camp led by a dragon, defeated a Supermutant Alicorn who threatened to assimilate all of ponykind (and purge the rest like zebras and griffons), defeated Red Eye's faction, and removed the Pegasus Enclave from power by sealing herself in the Single Pegasus Project's stasis chamber. Given all the struggle she went through taking a toll on both her mind and body, it was only a matter of time before she would collapse and die, and her stasis state was the only way she could survive. Ten years later, peace is made with the pegasi (many who weren't happy with the Enclave once they discovered the situation below), the other Spirits of Harmony are found^note it helps that four out of six (Velvet Remedy for Kindness, Calamity for Loyalty, Homage for Honesty, and Ditzy Doo for Laughter) have already been gathered together to activate the Gardens of Equestria and restore the land, allowing for agriculture once more, though it would be still up to the inhabitants to deal with raiders, remnants of the war, and live with the mutated creatures.
• It all started one day while Littlepip was dreaming, having finished talking with Princess Celestia for the day when... the Princess approached her once again, yet she looked different somehow. After ensuring that this conversation never "leaves the room" in case Littlepip refuses, Celestia talks about the Trope Pantheons, and how the Wasteland Heroine has been selected for "ascension". There won't be any need to leave behind the Single Pegasus Project, and after being fully informed of what ascension brings, Littlepip decides it's worth joining… but she warns that given everything she's been through, there's no way she would survive for long once she's out of stasis. Celestia assures her that there is much better medical care available in the Pantheon that would be able to fix her right up.
• Given just how much she's worn herself down through all her adventures to the point where the stasis is the only thing keeping her alive, Littlepip needed serious treatment moments after her ascension, which consisted of basically copying her entire pod. It took the combined efforts of the good doctors in the House of Health and Diseases to stabilize her body, and they needed to wear protective suits to shield from any Equestrian Wasteland radiation (which may be different from Earth nuclear radiation for all they knew). There was also the issue of her "PipBuck" being melded into her foreleg, yet surgically removing it was too risky for the moment. But thanks to their combined efforts, with Caduceus surgeons Drs. Vaughn and Blaylock on the operating table, Littlepip makes it through with a complete recovery, though they were unable to remove the Taint "mutations" on her.
• During this operation, Littlepip's mind was shafted to cyberspace, and her avatar being her last self minus all the fatigue. Littlepip expressed relief that she didn't have to be trapped in a healing booth again. One time was enough, and it gave her claustrophobia. There was also an offer made by the doctors trewting her body to extract her PipBuck from her foreleg, make it a legit accessory again, as well as a request by interested parties in the House of Technology for a project to reverse-engineer the thing. The reason the other Fallout protagonists haven't done the same is because of their varying morality, and not being as adept with the intricacies of their Pip-Boys, compared to Littlepip having been a PipBuck technician before she left for the Wasteland. She decided to accept both offers.
• Here are a short list of Perks Littlepip has acquired throughout her adventure. Not all will be listed such as those that only multiply EXP gains, or add to skill point gains. As for skills that have reached 100% in terms of a Fallout protagonist, they're Science, Lockpicking, Firearms, and Stealth.
  • Cherchez La Filly – +10% damage to the same sex and unique dialogue options with certain ponies.
  • Gunslinger – While using a mouth-held or levitated firearm, your chance to hit in S.A.T.S.^* Stable-Tec Arcane Targeting Spell, counterpart to the V.A.T.S. (Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System) increases by 25%.
  • Mighty Telekinesis (level three) – Your telekinesis is Twilight Sparkle tier. You can handle multiple objects with ease; and with enough focus, you could probably carry around an Ursa Minor!
  • Organizer – You are efficient at arranging your inventory in general. This makes it much easier to carry that little extra you’ve always needed. Items with a weight of two or less are considered to weigh half as much for you.
  • Light Trot – You are agile, lucky and always careful; or maybe you have just mastered the art of self-levitation. Either way, you never set off enemy mines or floor-based traps.
  • Math Wrath – You are able to optimize your PipBuck’s targeting spell logic. S.A.T.S. is now 20% cooler.
  • Stable Shot – Your attacks are smooth, graceful and precise. You have a higher chance to score a critical hit on an opponent in combat, equivalent to 5 extra points of Luck.
  • Silent Gallop – You have mastered silent movement, allowing you to move quickly and still remain quiet. You can Sneak at full speed with no penalties.
  • Sniper Pony – Your chance to hit an enemy’s head in S.A.T.S. is increased by 25%.
  • Counter Canter – Your fancy hoofwork (or agile flying if you are a pegasus pony) keeps you out of harm’s way. Opponents suffer a -5 to combat skills when attacking you.
  • Tough Hide (level two) – The brutal experiences of the Equestrian Wasteland have hardened you. You gain +3 to Damage Threshold for each level of this perk you take.
  • Action Filly (level two) – You know your targeting spell like the back of your hoof, making you about 20% cooler in combat. For each level of this perk, you gain +15 action points in S.A.T.S.
  • How We Do It Down on the Farm – In combat, your critical hits are more devastating. Your damage from critical hits, including Sneak Attack Criticals, is increased by 50%. This does not affect the chance to cause a critical hit.
  • Reaper Pony’s Gallop – If you kill a target while using S.A.T.S., 25% of your AP are restored after dropping the spell. This will usually refresh your targeting spell enough to use it again immediately for at least one more attack.
  • Pathfinder – Travel time to remote locations in the Equestrian Wasteland is reduced by 25%. The drain on the Sky Bandit’s spark batteries is likewise reduced.
  • Pony Sutra – You are experienced in the art of giving and receiving physical pleasure. You are more likely to have sexual encounters with specific characters.
  • The Magic of Friendship – When your HP or the HP of any member of your party drops below 30%, all members of your party (including yourself) gain much greater resistance to damage.
  • Clever Prancer – Through agility and reflexes, you have become deft at striking where it hurts while preventing your enemies from doing the same. You gain an additional 5% chance to score a critical hit; your enemies suffer a 25% penalty to their chance to critically hit you. This perk is only effective when wearing light or no armor.
  • A Little Dash – While wearing light armor or no armor, you run 20% faster.
  • Cooler Under Fire – You regenerate Action Points faster. How much faster? You guessed it: 20% faster!
  • Gladiator Pony – The action point cost for all unarmed attacks performed in S.A.T.S. is reduced by 10%.
  • Fillydelphia Survivor – Your vicious fights behind The Wall in the Fillydelphia ruins have left you stronger. Your damage threshold is increased by two and your radiation resistance increases by +3%.
  • Bone-Strengthening Brew – With this perk, your limbs only receive 50% of the damage they normally would.
  • Zebra-Augmented Pony – You have allowed your body to be permanently enhanced through zebra alchemy. You gain +10% to your Poison, Fire and Radiation Resistances and +3 to your damage threshold.
  • Celestia Tier Telekinetics – The things you can do with your levitation magic are the feats of legend. You can effectively fly at the skill level of a novice pegasus. Who knows, maybe you could even move the sun?
  • Touched by Taint (1) – Exposure to Taint has altered your physiology. When under the effects of Advanced Radiation Poisoning (400+ Rads) any crippled limbs will automatically regenerate.
  • My Little Ponies – You have collected one of each of the six Ministry Mares statuettes. Stronger together than they are apart, they have granted you +1 Luck in addition to their normal benefits.
  • Touched by Taint (2) – Exposure to Taint has altered your physiology. You do not take immediate damage from radiation. In fact, you gain extra healing while being exposed to it. However, radiation continues to build up in your system as normal.
  • Touched by Taint (3) – Exposure to Taint has further altered your physiology. You are 20% faster and stronger whenever you’re basking in the warm glow of radiation. Your Action Points regenerate faster and faster the higher your level of radiation sickness becomes. Your natural lifespan has increased dramatically.

• During her wait in cyberspace while her surgery was in progress, she received a visit from the friendly denizens of Equestria when they decided to enter cyberspace as well to meet this new arrival. While some of them are familiar to her historically, some of them are complete strangers, given the timeline divergence. With a lot of time in their hooves, she decided to narrate what she knows of the cast through the memory orbs she had "read" throughout her adventure.
  • First up, she was surprised to see Twilight Sparkle—the Ministry Mare of Arcane Sciences—as a bonafide alicorn, and not a Super Mutant-styled one after getting assimilated by the mutant Alicorn who called herself the Goddess. Since Trixie was present as well, Littlepip also decided to tell her about her recruitment to the Ministry of Arcane Sciences (which was also called the Ministry of Magic), and the alicorn transformation project she had volunteered for. It seems that Trixie never bought the Alicorn Amulet in that timeline. The Wasteland Heroine also described how Trixie had fallen into a vat of the Alicorn formula when their location was attacked by zebra megaspells, which turned her into the insane assimilating Goddess. Needless to say, Trixie was terrified at her alternate self's fate.
    • Given where the timeline diverged, Littlepip naturally never heard of Twilight's older brother Shining Armor or his wife Princess Cadance, and meeting them was a neutral affair. And it's likely that they didn't exist in that timeline. Cadance wonders what happened to the Changelings (which Littlepip naturally never heard of either, if they even existed either) in that timeline during the war, and if they survived (probably, given Chrysalis's throne, which would not have been shattered by then, nullifies magic and by extension the megaspells that devastate Equestria), though might've starved since most of their food supply was just blown up. And to say nothing of the fates of Sombra, the Crystal Empire, Tartarus and Tirek, whether they were somehow spared the balefire megaspells or if those obliterated them. Of course, with them out here in the Pantheon, Littlepip has promised to do what she can to go against their plans since that's what a hero would do.
  • Applejack, who had been assigned as Ministry Mare of Wartime Technologies (shortened to Ministry of Technology), was a little more significant meeting for Littlepip, since not only was she her ancestor, the Little Macintosh was a commissioned weapon by her in memory of Big Macintosh, who died in the war shielding Princess Celestia from a fatal magical bullet, and she's also the marefriend of one of Littlepip's most reliable allies; the Steel Ranger SteelHooves, though it became strained when he visibly killed Zecora (who was publicly outcast due to being a zebra, whose empire was at war with ponykind, but was secretly recruited as a spy for Equestria by Pinkie Pie) in front of her. When asked how the hay could he have survived all the way to Littlepip's time, the Wasteland Heroine explained that it was as a result of being turned into a Ghoul and infused to his armor. And unlike the others, she met a peaceful end in Stable 2 alongside Sweetie Belle as a result of old age.
  • Fluttershy showed abject horror that her Ministry of Peace, while having done a lot of medical work and research, eventually was ultimately responsible for the devastation of Equestria when she sent the megaspell technology to both sides in hopes of getting the fight to stop, and the Zebra Empire used it to send their balefire bombs everywhere as Fantastic Nukes. She was saved when she (plus Angel Bunny) was teleported out by Rarity (who had been trading spells with Twilight as a result of the war) before the Pink Cloud engulfed all of Canterlot. She was then turned into a tree by the Killing Joke, a more violent and potent variant of the Poison Joke and was turned into a tree. And thanks to the efforts of Littlepip's friends, she was eventually restored to life and able to help with the new world. As for Angel, he allegedly became a war legend in her world, feared by the enemy zebra empire as his mistress's protector ^note Although Xenith, who relayed this legend, was ultimately messing with Littlepip, it wasn't all fabrication. He MAY HAVE helped invent the drug Stampede, except it's more like an organization founded by the Ministry of Peace was named after him and made that drug.. He does not share the same fate unfortunately, having been petrified by a cockatrice rather than by the Killing Joke, and since the caster had long since passed, this status was permanent, though he is still kept by the restored Fluttershy.
  • Rarity was still as fabulous as always, and as generous as ever even as the Ministry Mare of Image, even though the whole need for propaganda control. She even learned teleportation magic thanks to the war effort necessitating learning it, and was able to detect a zebra under an invisibility cloak from the gems used in it. And then there's the matter of having her soul cut into forty-three pieces courtesy of the Black Book and Snips' cutting magic, and put them all save one that remains with her into collectible Ministry Mare statuettes that Littlepip has found over the course of her journey (she manages to collect one full set, and found another full set to give to Velvet Remedy), which she came out of alive and undamaged enough to see the end of Equestria as she knew it as she teleported Fluttershy (and Angel) out of Canterlot before succumbing to the Pink Cloud. After everyone recovered from what Littlepip has told about Rarity's fate, she commented that this kind of magic should never reach the ears of Horace Slughorn, Dumbledore, or Voldemort, given what the former two know of souls, and how the latter would covet the Black Book for its magic.)
  • While not as extreme as her fellow pegasus, Rainbow Dash's reaction to how things went for her after Littlepip's world's counterpart of her became head of the Ministry of Awesome (she liked the name), a seemingly pointless ministry since she had preferred fighting in the war, but was actually a top secret organization used for black ops and secret research. For one thing, there was the fact that the pegasi had abandoned Equestria altogether and sealed themselves off above the clouds, she had turned against them (as did Fluttershy and Scootaloo, among several others afterward), and her name was basically attributed to "Traitor" when a pegasus wants to go back down, and gets their cutie marks branded off. It stood against her very virtue, and its administration the Enclave would eventually wage war against the Wasteland below. Unlike everyone else, Littlepip doesn't know what ultimately happened to Rainbow (aside from being dead come Littlepip's adventure), and while Gilda there (who never reconciled with her old friend there) had become a mercenary who would be hired to hunt her down (though they did actually sing their cheer one last time before then), it's not known if she ever succeeded. And when said griffon^note who had not really wanted to make this visit, but came at Rainbow's insistence asked about the state of affairs of Griffonstone since it was in a really bad state, she deduced from Littlepip's recollection that in that Equestrian Wasteland timeline, her kind had decided to hire themselves out as mercenaries and remained so throughout the war and even long after. And the fact that a griffon was now a political leader of the new governing bodies post-Enclave actually put a smirk on her face.
  • For Pinkie Pie, who became head of the Ministry of Morale, she had run it with Big Brother-like diligence, and did everything to keep others happy no matter what, and even became addicted to Party Time Mint-Als to boost her Pinkie Sense to detect threats to Equestria, at the cost of her friendship with Twilight. Unlike the others, Pinkie didn't have that severe a reaction to Littlepip's recounting of her fate which ended with her and her Manehattan office blown up by a balefire bomb, and the wasteland pony assumed that this is because of her Pinkie Sense, which was able to even sense Littlepip through her own Memory Orb-copied memories. Pinkie corrected her that she just read Littlepip's story from start to finish, as in it's not just available in her home world but in the Pantheon too, and it was from realizing what kind of setting it was that inspired her to arrange for Littlepip's ascension in the first place. On a lighter note, Littlepip hopes to try out Pinkie's gyrocopter, having operated one before.
  • Next up were the Cutie Mark Crusaders, who have naturally grown up in Littlepip's timeline, and founded Stable-Tec, which ended up being a composite of Vault-Tec and RobCo. Compared to the former, their intentions were truly noble, and the experiments all throughout the Stables weren't out of malice but from trying to figure out what went wrong with Equestria and how to fix it. The deaths in the various Stables weren't at all intentional like in the Vaults, but all unfortunate circumstances. Stable 2 was actually pretty nice though boring, and its only case of death outside natural causes was from Steel Rangers raiding the place, though they thankfully failed thanks to Littlepip's company but not without heavy Stable Dweller casualties. No, Littlepip doesn't know what their cutie marks were in that timeline, though it likely wasn't what they have now. She also decided not to tell what Scootaloo intended with Vault 1.
  • Compared to the canon timeline, there were plenty more dragons in Canterlot in the past (though they've all become ghouls), and at least a few others in Littlepip's time given the raider leader Topaz. Littlepip felt weird meeting Spike in the flesh in his youth (wings aside). And that the Elements of Harmony's origins were quite different, weren't meant to be passed down on the regular, and we're eventually destroyed for good. There's also the sobering fact that not only did he outlive his old friends, they did not all die from natural causes, and at least two of them have suffered worse fates than that and only one managed to make it back whole.
    • Spike was also surprised to hear that Littlepip used his sending flame to enter the Single Pegasus Project past its impenetrable barrier out of a leap of faith courtesy of memory orb messages left by Pinkie Pie. He let her know that he can actually breathe regular burning fire, since he's sure that during the Storm King's invasion that he actually burned at least one of them to death, so the gamble was far bigger than she thought it would be (which she did realize after the fact). And despite hearing Littlepip's feat, he's not sure if he can actually send living things through his flame.
  • Regarding Princess Celestia, Littlepip is surprisingly cordial and casual with her (well, surprising to her subjects) given how she met her. The Wasteland Heroine laid bare everything she had done, the tragedy that led to the war with the Zebra empire, everything until her demise getting her mind transferred to the SPP in an attempt to control it, only for sabotage by Rainbow Dash to ensure that only a living pony can operate it, keeping her from using it. She naturally also covered Princess Luna's fate, from the school in her name that was lost, to taking the throne after Celestia stepped down in shame of the disaster, founding the Ministries and assigning them to the Spirits of Harmony, and her eventual demise when the Zebra Empire unleashed the Pink Cloud on Canterlot, which proved fatal even to the Princesses. That's also when Littlepip realized Luna looked way different from what she was like during the memory orbs (darker-coated, more confident, perhaps even taller [though that's just from posture]). The younger alicorn sister decided to test the point of divergence in Littlepip's timeline by asking her what she knows of Nightmare Night (her reply was "What's Nightmare Night?"), and then decided to explain what that holiday is, as well as her role over the dream world. She also had to explain that her other self Nightmare Moon is in the Pantheon too as a separate entity, which means Littlepip has also promised to go against her plots for eternal night.
  • The wall-eyed pegasus was there too, though she states she usually goes by the name Derpy Hooves (though she does accept the name Ditzy Doo as well). Sure, she's not a ghoul, and is able to speak, but Littlepip has a softer spot for her than most others given out of everyone else besides Celestia, she met this pony in the flesh (even though the one she knew has less flesh than this one). And during her deliveries later on, Littlepip always has more patience for her than most, even always catching her via telekinesis before she crashes. DJ-Pon3, the original one, was also present in this meet-up, and Littlepip told her about how her stage name became a legacy all the way to her marefriend Homage, but also mentioned where she met her demise at one of the faulty Stables.
  • After helping quell Littlepip's brief panic attack where she tried to throttle the draconequus around (since she had no guns to shoot him with), Discord asked what happened to him in that world. Given the war, he was sure it would've set him free. Littlepip could only provide three theories, all which came from some Red Eye cultists. 1) The attack on Canterlot woke him up, only for the Pink Cloud to prove as lethal to him as it was for the Princesses (Luna died, and Celestia was not long after). 2) He was still a statue, which was eventually destroyed along with the rest of Canterlot when the Enclave obliterated it. 3) He ended up so weakened after his release that he's now just a tiny spirit adding ammo and bottle caps into random containers for anybody (slavers and heroes alike) to find.
  • Littlepip was soon introduced to a few other ponies she hasn't seen before after Princess Cadance and Shining Armor; Twilight's new apprentice Starlight Glimmer, who actually used to be an antagonist, and former anti-cutie mark cultist striving for equality (where Littlepip started getting leery since that was exactly what Red Eye desired, though she used to be isolationist until the intervention, after which she then started messing with time). Once it was made clear that Starlight has left that behind, Littlepip was also told of the ex-cult leader's feats of self-levitation, which piqued her interest and envy given how Starlight made it look easy, and is wondering if she can get some advanced lessons. And then there's Sunset Shimmer (who showed up to this meeting in pony form to keep Littlepip from getting more confused), former student of Princess Celestia, and also former antagonist (though she had also put that life behind her), and Littlepip wondered where she had gone off to if she even existed in her timeline. If she did, it's likely that she eventually stayed in the other world and probably got cut off there (if she didn't become a casualty in Equestria while snooping around given the paranoid state of affairs). There's also the curious nature of the world Sunset had fled to, as well as the concept of humans (besides the ones operating on her right this moment).
  • This meeting was wrapped up with introductions exchanged to those humans, specifically the counterparts of the Ministry Mares, plus Crystal and Medley Brook (probably still living in the Zebra Empire before the megaspells sent by the pony cities rendered them most likely extinct), and Megan Williams (who despite being at first intimidated by the PipBuck fused to her leg, could see that Littlepip was still a good pony).
• At the conclusion of the operation, as well as getting her now re-detached PipBuck back, Littlepip was mentally returned to her body, she gave thanks to her doctors, and she was soon escorted to her temple, which resembled her first homestead after leaving Stable 2, Junction R-7, and included some elements of Tenpony Tower. Upon entering the place, she was greeted by some sights she didn't expect to see; most of her friends in the Wasteland; Velvet Remedy, her balefire phoenix Pyrelight, Deadshot Calamity, SteelHooves brought Back from the Dead, Xenith, Littlepip's marefriend Homage, and Life Bloom. After a heartwarming reunion and a confusing set of questions and explanations as to why and how they're here, the answers of which will not be known to us, the day eventually ended with Littlepip and Homage making some really loud love together. The next morning then heralded the beginning of Littlepip's first day of the rest of her life in the Trope Pantheons.
• As stated before, while Littlepip's repertoire of spells is less than stellar, her telekinesis is nothing short of spectacular. Not only can she lift extremely heavy stuff such as a train boxcar, but several different items of great mass at the same time. Among those can be liquids, and she can even shape them into a shield or a cover while also carrying herself, another equine, and some weapons. She's even able to pick locks without a lockpick by visualizing the tumblers inside, and if she has schematics of a machine and can visualize them accurately, she can manipulate its workings without the need to see them (though she still has to be near the machine in question). She's also powerful enough to send several hellhounds (i.e. mutated Diamond Dogs) skyward until they're only specks, then leaving them to gravity's embrace a few seconds later. She's also mastered the art of self-levitation, a feat only mimicked by a canon character (Starlight) seasons later. And courtesy of the Black Book, Littlepip also has the power of hemokinesis, though she has limited herself to making artifical clots on bleeding subjects, bandage- and cast-shapes to staunch bleeding, and once to write a message, though she can easily make blades out of them.
• One of the first things in order was to find a place to resupply her weapons. Well, weapon, since when she was brought over to the Pantheons, the keepsakes she had put in the SPP's stasis pod were the only things that got carried over with her (she returned Calamity's hat to him), and in terms of weaponry that was the Little Macintosh double-action revolver. Thankfully, she discovered that it uses .44 Magnum ammo, and not only was such an ammo type available in the Pantheon, it was surprisingly similar to .44 Magnum ammo in her world. Still, she knew she needed to acquire more weapons, and went to the House of Weapons to find substitutes to her arsenal. While she can manage most just fine thanks to telekinesis, Littlepip has also tested firing them with her mouth in the event she suffers burnout again, and had to get used to different models that might have trigger guards a tad too small for her tongue or a bit bigger than she's used to. It was awkward for the weapons providers to have to clean up her saliva once she was done with them. She's also ordered from Marcus Kincaid's vending machines and Drebin 893, and is honestly surprised that firearms are so readily available.
• A number of things that happened in the Equestrian Wasteland and the time before it happened to have occured later on in the canon timeline. There actually is a pony (a colt) named Pipsqueak (and Zecora called him Little Pip during Nightmare Night), Trixie had also been corrupted by an enhanced source of magic (though thankfully the Alicorn Amulet was reversibly by voluntary removal), the Everfree Forest mutated into a more deadly place for a while as a result of the Elements of Harmony being removed (in the canon timeline, it was because Discord pre-reformation had left some corruptive seeds before being resealed for a while by Twilight's company), Pinkie Pie did actually find a way to be in so many places at once (via the Mirror Pool, though she had to stop using it), Fluttershy once actually contracted a disease that almost turned her into a tree, and during the Legion of Doom's attack, the pegasi closed up the sky and tried to sit the crisis out where it can't reach them... just like what they did in Littlepip's timeline once the megaspells went off.
• Due to her stance against raiders and slavers (to be met with violent death, though she can never bring himself to kill a child participating in these activities), she's not allowed in Nuka-World due what she would do there. She was briefly obsessed with going there to see Redeye, just like the one she met in her home universe. Eventually, she stopped after hearing he's just a hmuble radioman there, and that even the Sole Survivor doesn't know where to find him. She does make frequent raids against the other Slavers, and their men are always surprised whenever Littlepip gets into a fight against them. While most of the ascended denizens of Equestria are willing to throw down if need be, the former Stable mare was not only utterly ruthless against her enemies, she uses all manner of guns and telekinetic pushes, grabs, throat crushes, and gravity lifts and drops. She also doesn't have it in her to shoot undead kids, but as long as they aren't, she shows no hesitation against enemies who are the type to strike down the defenseless, and willing to blow up a kids party, just like the Steel Rangers led by Blueberry Sabre had.
• Unlike all ascended ponies, Littlepip actually has a taste for meat. To her, she thought that was just what ponies of the Wasteland ate, and because she had gotten tired of eating nothing but apples back at Stable Two. This gets her a lot of stares not only from her fellow Equestria denizens, but everyone who knows them, and everyone who knows equines in general. That said, she doesn't actually look forward to it these days, because the whole revelation of the village of Arbu being cannibals—and her subsequent rampage-massacre of them—has traumatized her off of the stuff. This is why she also hates all forms of cannibalism, which runs the risk of driving her into a frenzy, like before with Arbu, and she almost tarnished her reputation doing so. Someone who read her tale has compared this to Anakin slaughtering the Tusken Raiders who killed his mother.
• Just as she encountered the denizens of Equestria, it also came time to meet with the other half of the crossover: the denizens of the American Wasteland. While the only similarities between it and the Equestrian Wasteland are lands ruined by radiation, raiders and mutated creatures running amok, and the fact that war can still go on even after the apocalypse, Littlepip was advised to familiarize herself with them. It would make sense to know who can be trusted and who cannot.
  • First up was Arthur Maxson, who leads his world's counterpart of the Steel Rangers, called there the Brotherhood of Steel, complete with tendencies of technology hoarding. That said, he proclaims that not even he would go so far as to advocate raiding perfectly functional Vaults and slaughtering all their (non-mutated) inhabitants just for their technology. However, Littlepip still doesn't trust him given his racism against ghouls (given one of her best friends is a very very nice ghoul), synthetics, and mutants. Sure, she's never met any synthetic beings until the Pantheon, but the fact that she's practically partially mutated herself means he can very easily turn on her despite otherwise being noble.
  • Her encounter with the Courier was a neutral affair, and it seems that while they could've gone so far as to support the slave-driving Caesar's Legion, this iteration definitely hasn't at any capacity, though whether they stood for NCR (the C standing for California rather than Canterlot), Mr. House, or themselves is uncertain. The Courier for their part doesn't mind Littlepip's company. Because the Yes Man is aligned with the Courier no matter what, as well as the reason behind most of their varied endings, she's not sure what to think of him (not to mention having to comprehend the idea of sentient robots and them having assigned genders).
  • Speaking of Robert Edwin House, she doesn't trust his overtly controlling tendencies, his warped morality, his stance against non-feral ghouls and super mutants (though they can at least visit his Strip as long as they have a human who will take responsibility for their actions, and even then it's not heavily enforced), his pettiness, his Securitron Army, and and his bad judgment of character. His present state also serves as a perverted reminder of her own final fate in the mortal realm. That said, she can't deny the good things he can bring on occasion, and his desire for progress and disinterest in tyranny. And who knows what would've happened if Littlepip had been in the Courier's place? Would she have helped House and try to be his conscience of sorts? Would she have aided the NCR in securing the Mojave Wasteland? Would she have tried the Independence path? Or would she have found a different path altogether?
  • Regarding House's former lackey Benny, she has nothing but contempt for the Courier's failed murderer and would not hesitate to kill him if he decides to cross her or any of her allies. Joshua Graham she expresses a lot of concern with given his ruthless past (not that she has any room to talk given the Arbu massacre), but the two have at least come to an understanding. For the Think Tank, it wouldn't be right to have a singular opinion since despite being rather mad scientists they are still distinctly different people even from each other, though what they did to the Courier gives her bad memories of Red Eye. Given her own experience with almost getting cut up, Littlepip is most uncomfortable around Dr. Dala, Dr. 8 is incomprehensible to her (though the Courier claims he's the nicest out of everyone), and she distrusts everyone else except Dr. Mobius who did what he could to keep them in line even though he's not the leader. Due to his opposition to the Courier and Maxson (racism aside), as well as his opinions against free will and his first actions upon ascending to the Pantheon, Father Elijah became one more enemy to Littlepip.
  • As far as Littlepip's concerned, the American Enclave from the other world is worse than the Grand Pegasus Enclave back at her world (and she'll use the term "American" in order to differentiate it from the other one). And she's already seen all sorts of atrocities done at their hooves, including the slaughter of innocent Wastelanders, not sparing children (as Littlepip personally witnessed, and kept a jar of one filly's ashes as a reminder), continuing to fire on a defenseless settlement and immediately turning on dissenters who don't wish to bully them anymore, abandoning its own people who might contradict their regime and brand them as dead, and so on. Littlepip is considering trying to find a way to subvert the American Enclave's power via its workforce, just as the Pegasus Enclave lost its power after its populace realized that there were still survivors down below when she took over the SPP and removed enough of the cloud cover to expose the Pegasus Enclave's lies, but she only managed to accomplish that with two months of gathering a network of allies, and she has a feeling that the American Enclave is more wary of and prepared for her than the Pegasus Enclave ever was.
  • After an encounter with Brotherhood of Steel Knights attacking a bickering community of non-humans, and seeing the Courier come to the latter's defense, prompting Littlepip to do the same to drive the Knights out^* She also sighted a certain Mysterious Stranger coming to her aid from afar for quite a few fights, but he always vanished from her E.F.S. before long. When she asked the Courier, they told her about the Mysterious Stranger, what he is, and what he does, but nobody knows why or how., she came to meet the ghoul Set and the super mutant Marcus. Despite having befriended a ghoul before, she found Set to be really unpleasant not only with his attitude, but because he not only chose to become a ghoul willingly, he had forced the same fate to his Vault-mates. Marcus on the other hoof was a more amicable fellow, though he still thinks the Unity's ideals weren't wrong. It that reminds her of the mutant Alicorns and she realizes that these Super Mutants are the American Wasteland's counterparts of those Alicorns. It… doesn't disturb her as much as she thought it would, given how wildly different the two sterile races are though a way was found for the Alicorns.
• Hates taking drugs, ever since her Party Time Mint-als got her in too much trouble, the whole issue with the filly Silver Bell doped up on those drugs for a good long while, seeing a memory orb where Pinkie has become an addict to that drug, hearing a recording of Pinkie admonishing those same drugs but also needing them to get ahead in the war effort due to them boosting her Pinkie Sense, and a forced visit to a doctor to flush Littlepip of it and everything else she had been through since leaving Stable Two before then, after which she went cold turkey and flushed it all down the drain. And then she had taken in just one more time (and flushed it from her system as soon as she was done) in order to come up with the plan to kill the mad Alicorn Goddess, which ended in a lot of dead Hellhounds, and the death of Steelhooves in their retaliation against Littlepip. Despite this, if one has to manufacture and sell drugs to get by, as the case had to be with Zebratown, she won't begrudge them entirely, but only if there are literally no other options. Littlepip was also surprised to hear that Radaway in the American Wasteland is intravenous rather than being ingested.
• (Intense panic attack over seeing an eclipse for the first time)
• As someone who has no problem hanging around a ghoul and is really good friends with her, while she will put down the feral kind with little compunctions (unless they're children, which just becomes distressing to her), Littlepip dislikes those who discriminate against the undead with little regard for whether they might be friendly or not. Of course, she will oppose the actively malevolent undead such as the Scourge, Dr. Zomboss, the Special Infected, Lord Raptor, etc.
• Some people expected her to be antsy around zebras, given they were responsible for the Wasteland, but Littlepip had made friends with one, and helped a village full of their foals. Her encounter with the only zebra in the Pantheon so far, Marty of the Zoosters, was a decent affair, though he was certainly really too carefree, though he certainly has a hoof in building Bamboo Technology. That said, when she heard how his escape led to his fellow Zoosters following him, it reminds her how Velvet Remedy's flight from Vault 2 prompted Littlepip to do the same. The main difference is that Alex, Gloria, and Melman were already Marty's friends, whereas Velvet was merely an idol to Littlepip, and it's only much later on that they became friends (and no more than that, despite Littlepip's orientation, and Velvet gets together with someone else anyway).
• When she heard Monterey Jack was in the Pantheon, Littlepip decided she wanted to pay him a visit, and the tone of her voice implied it wasn't friendly. However, she found not a stubbornly and suicidally honest earth pony, but a mouse who is a connoisseur of cheese, that trait being the only thing he has in common with the pony Littlepip knew. Besides his tendency to cook too much, and his occasional "cheese attacks", this Monterey was an overall nice rodent. It also helped that he had been baking plenty when she arrived, and despite very rarely having had cheese, she actually enjoyed the meal.
  • When the Rescue Ranger rodent asked why she approached him with hostile intent at the start, she explained that her world's Monterey Jack showed ungratefulness to her by robbing her after she had saved him from slavers. And when she encountered him again at the prestigious Tenpony Tower, when she had accused him of his actions back there, despite being able to deny these claims and get away with it, he confessed to them, got himself arrested in accordance to the Tower's laws, and executed, leaving his business and his children to her custody, all to teach her a lesson since the Tower's laws dictate that she would have to throw them out for not being productive. Thankfully for those foals, Littlepip already had arrangements made to send them to a safer (though not as prestigious) location before she discovered that crueler segment of his Thanatos Gambit. That's why Littlepip also dislikes ungratefulness, screwing oneself over out of a stubborn need to be honest, or getting executed just for feeding one's own family.
• Given the disappointment she at Tenpony Tower, which just had the same food served only in tiny artistic portions being served as "luxury" food, being beheld the real pre-apocalypse deal was life-changing, and their very high prices are actually justified. Of course, she knows not to splurge on these and treat them for what they are.
• (Spark needed to bring together the Elements of Harmony)
• (making plans on the fly, like Sokka)
• It wasn't hard for her and Big Jack Horner to become enemies. Him for his desire for her horn and her magic, and her for his incredible pettiness and vileness. And unlike her fellow Equestria denizens, she won't hesitate to just kill him as soon as she gets the chance. And there's all those de-horned unicorns (shorn off since babyhood, no less!) she wants to save, and the Baker's Dozen who continue to serve him no matter how many times he throws their lives away.

for them both.

Edited by Shinobi on May 29th 2023 at 2:39:24 AM

Pokémon Battle Standby!... What a pathetic Pantheon.

@RJ: to both

I've gotten four s on my first character since Thursday the 25th, so...

"Attention, everyone! I am changing the name of the TV Tropes Pantheon to the Morty Maxwell Pantheon! Needless to say, this is now MY pantheon!"

A couple questions.

1: Is it fine to talk about hypothetical characters, as in those known and with a fair amount of information to make a profile of but without their own concrete media just yet, or is there a separate Pantheon affiliated forum for that?

2: Is it possible for two characters from separate series/works to be co-gods of a trope if they both equally and suitably embody it?

1. I don't know what you mean by "concrete media". Are you referring to the trope they can hold in their "title"? I think that this thread would be a good place to discuss things like that.

2. In the past, characters from different works were allowed to share the same trope under one profile. Nowadays, that's not allowed. The closest concept that remains is two characters sharing the same trope with explicit different flavors (e.g. Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki both have Muscle Angst, with Biscuit representing the "Too Much Muscle" variation and Chihiro representing the "Not Enough Muscle" version).

Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 29th 2023 at 3:18:52 AM

1) Does that refer to characters that either have no physical presence or are The Ghost? They can be made into a profile, but they tend to be pretty difficult to work into the pantheon

2) That's no longer allowed. We do make exceptions if the trope does involve more than one franchise. Like say, Dueling Works

1: Concrete as in released and available for consumers. Not in production or possible production.

2: That makes sense.

Edited by Negaman on May 29th 2023 at 3:35:35 AM

Right. We have rules against adding character from unreleased works or if a particular work is ongoing or is about to get a sequel. In the past we had problems with certain character being added way too early and their initial tropes were made unfitting due to either character development or story revelations. Those are a pain in the ass (Mortal Kombat and its constant retcons have made the upkeep of those characters a nightmare)

I figured that was the case. It's why I asked about just discussion and not outright adding, and whether or not there was an affiliated forum for that. A sort of "What-if with that we know as of now" kind of thing basically.

Discussing character from unreleased works is totally fine. It's recommended to not reserve tropes even if the character might look like a good fit, till the game or work is released.

Awesome, thanks.

i think we should move Starro at Otherness to somewhere outside of ambiguous ranks. Because it already has a rank, its listed right there.

I think Face Hugger would fit well in Monster Behavior. Since the highest rank for Starro is Overdeity, it would likewise be sorted under that category if moved out of the Ambiguous Rank section.

I've done it. The king of slop is making his grand comeback. Sadly no petscop 2.

Pyro is a bit of a Butt-Monkey if you put it slightly. Anyone that tends to be the butt of jokes? Terrible gamer and all that stuff? Anyone that bullies children? He also does reactions on the side. And yes, the furry stuff if you want to go there.

He's also known for essays on lesser known games that tend to have a deep story like Cry of Fear or Iron Lung to name a few. Anyone like that who might interest Pyro? (Doesn't need to be just a game, can be series or movies too)

"So guys, we did it, i have become a god in the Trope Pantheons"

Pyrocynical, God of Self-Deprecation (Niall, Pyro, PyroLIVE, Cancer, Cute Little Lesbian, The King of Slop)

^{Pyro's true form (allegedly)} 

• Lesser God
• Symbol: His TV Head. Other times, a purple Top Hat.
• Theme Song: Whitewoods - Beach Walk (formerly) and Outro by Levi Niha
• Alignment: True Neutral. Tethers the line between Chaotic Good and Neutral Evil
• Portfolio: Cringe Comedy, Self-Deprecation, Brutal Honesty, Deadpan Snarker, Always made fun of, Looks like a Lesbian in real life, Game End
• Domains: Youtube, Videos, Cancer, Cringe, Furries, Bullying Children, Slop, Commentary
• Allies: Quackity, Simon Henriksson, Freddy Fazbear, The Rock, Steve?, Spyro the Dragon, Howard and Kreese, Roadhog, Canti
• Enemies: His Audience (Represented in the pantheon as The Mob), The House of Justice, Thanos, Edward "Blackbeard" Teach, The demonic entities from Doom
• Opposes: Garfield, Spiderman, Elsa
• Former Allies: Shrek
• On better terms with: The House of Childhood and Adolescence
• Pyrocynical is a British Youtuber known for a wide variety of video subjects Starting as a gaming montage parody channel, evolving into a commentary personality until finally settling down as a video essayist and the self-proclaimed “King of Slop”. One day while researching videos to react for another slop-tastic day, he tripped and fell down into a strange hole. Suddenly, he appeared from a high altitude and dropped into a body of water. After emerging unharmed, the entity known as the Mob greeted him by reciting the classic "So guys, we did it." meme that has haunted Pyro for several years. Then he wound up in the Court of Gods, where they told the confused and perplexed youtube that it was actually a prank and that he was selected to be the new god of Self-Deprecation humor (something he does often). At first he didn't believe that some random fictional character assigned him a weird job out of nowhere, but then he found out that the place he was in was very real. And better yet, he could make a goldmine of content out of the Pantheon.

Father hates children and opposes Sector V, a heroic team of kids.

Yuuko Aioi of the Nichijou cast is also a Butt-Monkey.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 29th 2023 at 7:25:02 AM

Thicc Pyro is accursed

What about stuff he has pperiods of referencing. Phantom Pain and Breaking Bad come to mind.

Also, somesomething thicc furry roleplay.

I am tempted to bring Critikal back just so I can be more brutally honest on what to describe.

So I guess Ocelot is finally done being edited.

Now I’ll show you why they call me… “Revolver.”

Adamska, God of Gun Twirling (Adam, ADAM, Major Ocelot, Ocelot Commander, Revolver Ocelot, Shalashaska, A Rival living a lie, General Ivan, Liquid Ocelot, Crazy Ivan, Liquid's Doppelganger, Lynx, Mr. Chronic Backstabbing Disorder, Wild Bill Hickock, Santa Claus, Jack the Ripper, Interim Director Iriomote, Big Boss’s Father, John Carpenter)

^{Major Ocelot} 

^{Ocelot during the Phantom Pain Incident} 

^{Ocelot during the Big Shell Incident} 

^{Liquid Ocelot} 

• Lesser God (Intermediate God piloting Metal Gear RAY or with the latest electromagnetic technology or controlling Guns of the Patriots)
• Symbol: Colt Model 1873 Single Action Army Revolver (Revolver Ocelot). Outer Haven helm's Snake monument (Liquid Ocelot).
• Theme Songs: Ocelot Youth ~ Confrontation Shalashaska, Revolver Ocelot (Original Arrangement), Guns of the Patriots, Infinite Loop (shares with Solid Snakes fighting in their respective Metal Gears), Full Circle (shares with Solid Snake for their final battle)
• Alignment: Neutral Evil as Ocelot. Chaotic Evil as Liquid Ocelot.
• Portfolio: Chronic Backstabbing Disorder, Revolvers are Just Better, The Chessmaster, The Gunslinger, Double Reverse Quadruple Agent, Torture Technician, Old Soldier, Cool Old Guy, Cats Are Mean, Bizarre and Improbable Ballistics, The Man Behind the Man, In Love with Your Carnage, Straight Gay, Enigmatic Minion, Awesomeness by Analysis, Wild Card, Sadist, Dragon Ascendant
  • Major Ocelot: The Gunfighter Wannabe, Honor Before Reason, Noble Demon, Stalker with a Crush
  • Liquid Ocelot: Large Ham, Dark Is Evil, Psychopathic Manchild, Visionary Villain, Hijacked By Liquid
• Domain: Cunning, Betrayal, Firearms, Technique
• High Priest: Slinger the Ocelot
• Followers: Braham, Sean Lafferty, The Cowboy, Josey Wales, El Ray, Tobias Beckett, Chuck Conners, Ronon Dex, Manosuke Naitou, Gideon Wyeth, Eruca, Kusagari Kid, Rubi Malone, Zeke-the-Cyborg-Space-Cowboy
• Allies: Big Boss, Punished “Venom” Snake, Sniper Wolf, Drebin 893, Rize Tedeza, Hol Horse, Stan Lee, Rolento F. Schugerg, Kokichi Oma, David Xanatos, Ozymandias, Admiral Thrawne, Toffee of Septarsis, Elim Garak, Char Aznable, Lelouch vi Brittania, The Man with No Name, John Marsten, Nack the Weasel, Erron Black, Bedman, The Illuminati, Kane, Lü Bu, Starscream, Agent Carolina, Melkor, Oshawott
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Gray Fox, Itachi Uchiha, Lain Iwakura
• Rivals: Cole Cassidy, Dillon, Diry Harry, Jude the Dude, Lucky Luke, Justice, Dr. Herman Carter, Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow
• Enemies: Skull Face, Big Brother, Sibyl System, Ryo Saeba, Barry Burton, The Friend, Eiki Shiki, Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov, Vladimir Makarov, Nikita Dragovich, Stan Smith, Agent 47, Sam Fisher, James Bond, Ethan Matthew Hunt, Captain Alex, K-Sha, Lietenant Columbo, Wallmasters, Lord Fuse
• Former Allies: The Patriots, Colonel Volgin, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, Psycho Mantis
• Opposed by: Dimitri Petrenko, Gwangi
• Former Enemies: Meryl Silverburgh and Johnny Sasaki, Hal Emmeric, Raiden
• Interested in: Celestia Ludenberg, Madoka Kaname, Homura Akemi
• Confuses: Tangle the Lemur and Whisper the Wolf
• Worthy Opponent: Solid Snake
• Born on the beaches of Normandy as the Allies charged against the Axis defenses, the son of The Boss led a colorful life intertwined with several conspiracies that almost brought the world to ruin. Raised by the Soviet Philosophers, Ocelot would find himself defecting to the United States and being an informant for the CIA under the guise of a GRU operative. During FOX's Virtuous Mission, Ocelot fatefully met the future Big Boss, Naked Snake, and would be transfixed with the Legendary Soldier throughout the latter Operation Snake Eater. After recovering half a billion dollars for Zero, Ocelot would join Cipher as an informant for them after turning against the CIA. However, his loyalties remained with Big Boss as Ocelot help guard him when XOF's attack induced Big Boss into a coma, and aided Big Boss's escape upon reawakening. Ocelot dedicated the remaining years of his life to saving Big Boss from the Patriots' hands upon his defeat on Zanzibar Land. He would present himself as an ally to Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, and the Patriots themselves all to one day have Big Boss see the sun once again. A dramatic step in his plan was brainwashing himself to believe he was Liquid Snake after grafting Liquid’s arm onto himself, where he would after lead Outer Haven, the largest company of Private Military Contractors assembled for the war economy. Liquid Ocelot sought to take control of the entire planet by eliminating the Patriots' hold on humanity. But Solid Snake and his allies defeated Liquid Ocelot once and for all, though Ocelot still won by freeing Big Boss, his idol, from his prison. It was a pretty good trick as one would say.
• Ocelot would finally have the fruits of his labor be seen in the Pantheon upon reuniting with Big Boss. Since he came to the Pantheon first, he was in a position to advocate for Big Boss coming to the Pantheon though wanted to accommodate Big Boss as best he could. The Pantheon courts denied Big Boss bringing so much with him even if Ocelot said others could share that precedent. He was in a verbal war to get Big Boss to the Pantheon, though was forced concessions as they did not allow Big Boss to bring back an entire army with him unless the entirety of Outer Heaven made a case for itself which wasn't happening. No heralds to bring, no followers to bring, they would have to build a new Outer Heaven from scratch. When Ocelot reunited with Big Boss, the latter was flattered by Ocelot's dedication to bringing him back and trying his hardest to roll the metaphorical red carpet for him. Ocelot replied that he does so because he probably is still in love with the legend more than anybody else.
  Ocelot: Let's go bring that legend back to life, John.
  Ocelot goes up to Big Boss, and then suddenly kisses the Legendary Mercenary on the lips.
  Ocelot: I’m sorry but after all that time I spent in a facade, I needed that.
  Big Boss: I get it. I think...
• His role as a commander in the new Outer Heaven is managing the support team and the intelligence network, both being extremely effective departments thanks to Ocelot’s career. Ocelot is more than qualified to Outer Heaven on his own after running an army that was larger than the combined population of Canada and Mexico. In 2014, Canada's and Mexico's populations were 35.44 million and 118.8 million respectively. This means the Outer Heaven mother company had more than 154.24 million employees contributing to its cause. Ocelot would decline to be the Number Two as Ocelot knows Big Boss's charisma has a far greater reach than what Liquid Ocelot had even if his Outer Heaven has more members to it. Ocelot is content with working for Big Boss in the shadows, only coming out when it is to annihilate their enemy. For the second highest authority on Outer Heaven, Ocelot brought back Ahab, the one who took the mantle of Big Boss and was christened by Ocelot to become Venom Snake. If Big Boss cannot be there to be the symbol for their military nation, then Venom Snake will be that symbol until the true Big Boss comes back into the limelight.
  Ocelot: Alright. We have a mission for you, Boss.
  Big Boss and Ahab: Which mission?
  Ocelot: ... I wish this charade was easier on me.
  • On another note, the other commander of Outer Heaven is Gray Fox whom Ocelot both admires yet feels apprehension for. Gray Fox is indeed another loyal soldier to Big Boss who will throw his life for it when asked, though Ocelot still has not gotten over Gray Fox suddenly chopping his hand off. Despite how well it worked out for him for losing his arm and replacing it with Liquid's arm, there is no getting around that he still lost his right arm which he favored. Gray Fox is surprisingly apologetic for it, saying that Ocelot is allowed to cut off his arm if it meant they're on equal footing. Ocelot decided that punching Fox square in the robotic face with his newer arm was more cathartic. He already had to deal with a second cybernetic ninja at the Big Shell who tried chopping off his arm, so he wants to send a message his arm is not for chopping.
• His Liquid Ocelot persona is more known than his Shalashaska identity due to how widespread his Outer Heaven company was (despite its role as an owner for several mercenary companies not being that known). As a result, people still refer to Ocelot as Liquid even if the actual Liquid Snake is present. Not even his getting back to his gun-twirling, cowboy getup could stop this impression with a handful of people knowing who Ocelot truly is. The real Liquid Snake whom Ocelot propped up has found a new reason to despise his former comrade for this. Not only did Ocelot manipulate him under the order of his younger brother, but now has also taken over his identity. Ocelot would balk at such accusations, considering Liquid Snake really did possess him in the Manhatten Tanker and the Big Shell, where Liquid proceeded to try to find where the Patriots were. It took cutting off his right hand again and replacing it with another for Ocelot to gain control of his body... until he brainwashed himself to think he was Liquid Ocelot once more. Ocelot out of spite for Liquid Snake, still imposes the idea that Liquid was born the inferior clone no matter how much contrary evidence is offered. Ocelot also calls him Eli for kicks.
  Ocelot: This is the result of going against me, perverting Big Boss’s dream. Your temper, your whininess, makes it clear why Les Effants Terribles gave you the recessive genes.
  • When it comes to his relationship with his other former FOXHOUND members, he is much more cordial than he does with Liquid. Sniper Wolf and Raven would not care that the group was betrayed if it meant helping out the admirable Big Boss. Decoy Octopus would be pissed that their group was meant to fall though would let go of his anger if Ocelot offered a substantial acting job. The only one Ocelot will still be on bad terms would be Psycho Mantis, not just because Mantis was a pawn for XOF. Ocelot was always on edge with Mantis considering Mantis could read his mind to ruin his plans. Thank goodness Ocelot anticipated this and trained himself in psychic blockage like what Donald did. Mantis pretends he could read Ocelot's mind out of revenge, spouting that Ocelot likes Russian amateur pornography. The man is tempted to put a bullet between the psychic's eyes.
• Solid Snake carries a strange relationship with Ocelot who was his most recurring foe up until their final battle. The last son of Big Boss versus the last son of The Boss, fighting atop the world. Much of Solid Snake's animosity for Ocelot is for his Liquid Ocelot persona, though it doesn’t mean he has gripes with the man himself. Ocelot did cause an arms race of Metal Gears, leading to the rise of the war economy. Even if it was to save his father, Ocelot had directly and indirectly killed a lot of people in the process. Ocelot does not share hostility towards Solid Snake, acknowledging that this Snake is the closest to succeeding Big Boss than any of his brothers. Although Ocelot would wish to fight Snake once more, the FOXDIE that Snake has is an issue even if Snake has treatment for it. Having a heart attack is unpleasant as Shalashaska could attest to.
  Ocelot: FOX… DIE!
  Ocelot collapses in front of Solid Snake.
  Snake: Ocelot, I'm not going to be tricked again-
  Ocelot: THINK AGAIN! Sorry, but that won't work a fourth time!
• Regarding his relationship with the third of the sons of Big Boss, George Sears, it is much more cordial than what beef Liquid has with Ocelot. If he did not know that Ocelot being a spy for the Patriots was a thing, he would have cut the man down right there and then. When Solidus discovered Ocelot led the end of the Patriots, he was relieved that all his efforts against them were not in vain. Although Solidus still does not have goodwill with Ocelot for allowing his barely-conscious body to be skinned and amputated to rebuild Big Boss. Ocelot just says that he was busy being Liquid to have a say on that deal. He would have put more of both Solidus and Liquid in Big Boss even if it was something small as a better immunity system.
  Big Boss: Wait, both of you had the same vampire working for you?
  Big Boss backs away from Ocelot out of concern.
  Ocelot: Well, he wasn’t called Vamp because of the blood-sucking and invincibility. He was named Vamp because he’s bisexual.
• Ocelot knew who his true parentage was, as even he would question why he was promoted to a major regardless of his young age. As Volgin and many connected to the Philosophers know, Ocelot is the son of Voyevoda and The Sorrow who was taken from them as a child by Philosopher agents shortly after being born. Ocelot could be said to be a progenitor of offspring with "soldier genes" like the sons of Big Boss. He would eventually discover his parentage at least before instilling Big Boss's persona on an unconscious Ahab, with the fact not bothering him that much at the present. He is incredibly courteous to his mother, however, regarding her highly even if she is on those wicked capitalist Americans' side in Outer Heaven's political war. Being his mother, the first quiet moment between him and Ocelot was her smacking him in the head for being such a nuisance to people after her death. Not that it was undeserved, of course.
• Ocelot may have been a founding Patriot, but he was not particularly keen on the One World Order that Zero wished to bring. It was Big Brother that came back to life, gripping its claws on the planet enough that the world accepted its fate of being oppressed by them. Though he may have kept contact with Zero after Big Boss left Cipher and helped hide Big Boss from XOF, Ocelot has no obligation to help Zero and his unilateralism. He wants to capture Zero so Outer Heaven can use Zero's endless resources to their advantage though the man himself is slippery. Not even Ocelot's powerful information network could find the man who seemingly vanished from the Pantheon. What Ocelot does know is where the Patriots but he has to find a way to destroy them without triggering a nuclear war. That requires Outer Heaven to be stronger first, which he already has experience in doing.
• Ocelot is a massive fan of spaghetti westerns and takes up pretty of mannerisms and apparel based on the Wild West. He is such a fan that as a major, he had his troupe take up the appearances of cowboys even though it was so much against Soviet uniform regulation. He knows that using revolvers may be less effective than using standard weapons that he knows how to use but dammit, he insists on showcasing his skills with the revolver. Not that he is a slouch, considering his twirling fended off an army of hornets. His dedication to the cowboy motif has earned his respect and ire over the cowboys of the Pantheon. There are those like the Man with No Name who would call Ocelot a man who embodies the spirit of the Wild West in the modern era. Then there are those like Dillon and Lucky Luke who consider Ocelot a menace thanks to his unpredictable tendency to draw some bad problems to their territories. Ocelot would not deny that his critics have a right to fear him, as he is the kind of person to shoot someone who looks at him funny.
  • Hol Horse and Ocelot had a bit of a standoff after word got around Ocelot was such a good shot, he used a bullet to knock the gun out of Nack the Weasel's hand (just because Nack was talking badly about Slinger the Ocelot). Seeing as his Stand could home in on objects, Hol Horse was sure that he could win a contest of precision. It didn't work when he threw the bottle into the air and the sun's glare got on his eyes. Ocelot just took a glance at the bottle's trajectory, shooting the bullet at a metallic railing nearby that had the bullet ricochet to the falling bottle. After seeing that, Ocelot got Hol Horse's highest admiration.
• Not only is Ocelot considered one the greatest spymasters in the Pantheon, but Ocelot is also one of the most infamous torturers the Pantheon has seen yet. He was feared by the name of Shalashaska by the Mujihadin for that reason, him bringing out the most efficient torture methods to wring out information from people in a concise manner. What he especially likes to use is electrical equipment from rods to chairs as he loves frying a person from the inside. He now understands why Volgin enjoyed it. It got him in the crosshairs of Herman Carter who enjoys torturing people with electricity perhaps more than Ocelot does. Although Ocelot is the more efficient torturer because he knows a lot more techniques than Carter could do and could get creative with them. One time, he used a cheese grater and fed the fleshy flakes to his victim. Herman Carter was even sent a bottle of those flakes, not knowing what it was, and thought it was an odd ice cream topping.
• Ocelot does not have good opinions about Mother Russia, especially after the Soviet Union fell. It is not as if he had been a true patriot for his nation prior, though he at least thought the Soviet Union stood for something. He believes modern Russia does not stand for any ideals, turning into a nation of clingers to the past and bowering to whatever despots take the nation's reigns. He is not even willing to side with ultranationalist Russians as Ocelot believes that there is no saving Russia outside of complete societal upheaval. Soviets of the Pantheon were enraged when it was declassified that Ocelot had spied for the West throughout the Soviet Union's existence. A certain famous official of the Soviet Union, Georgy Zhukov, was more enraged than anyone that the KGB's premier torturer was an American dog (although Ocelot worked for a British man). To humiliate Ocelot, Zhukov invited him to an interview on live television where he intended to scrutinize all of Ocelot's actions against them. Though knowing what Zhukov planned for him, Ocelot went because he intended to humiliate Mother Russia for trying to get back at him on the national broadcast. He mentioned some shady things leaders in Nikita Khrushchev's regime witnessed (like maybe hanging out with young attractive girls too much), leading to Zhukov going on a cuss-filled tirade of denial on a national broadcast.
  • Ocelot was so burned by the American Philosophers creating their war between the Pentagon and the CIA that he was set on retiring from his spy job if it were not for Zero conceding that Big Boss would join them. Ocelot assassinated the DCI of the time and framed his death as a suicide, something that the world would know once those files were declassified during the war economy. It is also known Ocelot assassinated the United States president, James Johnson, for speaking too much about the Patriots’ plans. CIA agent Stan Smith has sworn to avenge these authority figures and prevent Ocelot from doing more harm, though Ocelot would like to point out that the CIA was trying to prolong the Cold War at the time with their Metal Gears.
• When Cole Cassidy challenged Ocelot to a Dual Wielding pistols match, Ocelot could not refuse. The reason Cassidey asked for this is due to Ocelot's notorious reputation as a gunslinger with few peers. His skills with the revolver may be a bit rusty thanks to Liquid Ocelot using his fingers as an imaginary gun to shoot people with (it worked because of nanomachines), but that does not mean Ocelot will lose his touch in the heat of battle. Many bullets bounced across surfaces in their brief dual but in the end, Cassidy stood on top of Ocelot's shot body. But then as the match ended, Ocelot stood up from the floor with little injury and the round timer reset. Telling Cassidy to think again, Ocelot proceeded to point and laugh at his foe as he walked away backward, winning the match by knocking Cassidy by riddling him with equally as many bullets. Cassidy does not know how in the world Ocelot did that, though couldn't process it as unconsciousness took hold of him. Ocelot conceded that Cassidy is a more agile fighter than he is, maybe even better at the revolver too. Ocelot is willing to use every trick under the sun to succeed, something that Cassidy may not do. Plus, those cosmetics Cassidy won from lootboxes and battle passes gave him no tactical advantage whatsoever. To secure victory, Cole Cassidy knew he was forced to Ocelot's underhanded tactics.
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• Melkor considers Ocelot an ally yet is also highly cautious around Ocelot. Though his loyalties go to Big Boss, Ocelot has been a military consultant for many groups. He might as well work with others after so many offers were made for his strategic prowess and business expertise. The most consistent person that Ocelot works with is Melkor who admits that he owes a lot to Ocelot for fixing many things for him, to the point Melkor has Ocelot in a high position to keep a close eye. Resource allocation, unit roles, morality, security, and even taxes are what Ocelot was able to cover for Melkor. Melkor also respects Ocelot for being quite frank with him even if it could be upsetting, such as shooting Melkor on his throne to demonstrate the poor security of the place. Despite valuing his skills, Melkor is aware of Ocelot’s backstabbing reputation is more notorious than Starscream’s. For this, Melkor generated millions of countermeasures against Ocelot as even one step could put whatever Melkor plans at risk. Not even his most suspicious of allies have those many contingencies, much less a slightly paranormal mortal.
• Rize Tedeza may not see Ocelot on the same pedestal as Big Boss, but she respects and looks up to him. The man may be intimidating to everybody for his methodology though she would probably not sing the same tune if she knew his relationship with her father. Many years ago, Rize's father served as an informant for Liquid Ocelot as his Outer Heaven grew. Not to say that her father was a member, just an extension of Ocelot's surveillance. When Ocelot found out about his daughter's association with Solid Snake, Ocelot targeted Outer Heaven advertisements in her area so that she would search Outer Heaven out. He does not bring Rize to Outer Heaven's hands to intimidate her father, but to one day have Rize take up her father's role. He whispered to her father's ear not to worry, as it was not like he would throw his daughter to the Diamond Dogs' dens.
• Many people want Ocelot dead for his crimes against the world. James Bond tried digging through his information network to find a weakness, though almost drowned in its deepness. San Fisher tried to track Ocelot's activities though Ocelot somehow alludes him. One notable person who tried going after Ocelot directly was Agent 47 who discovered Ocelot's name on a guest registry for an award show. Ocelot anticipated and prepared a decay in the form of Stan Lee]. Stan Lee dressed as him, going on stage to do what Ocelot was meant to do for the award show. 47 was confused by these events, but Ocelot managed to lure 47 to a quiet area and used a cigarette spray to knock him out. By the time 47 woke up, the show finished without a hitch hours ago and Ocelot escaped to live another day. As a final surprise, 47's belongings were left with a Time Bomb as a parting gift.
• Homura Akemi's dedication to Madoka Kaname has piqued Ocelot's interest, as he believes that he could shape Homura to be a deterrent against Pantheon authoritarianism. He noticed this sliding trend upon seeing the Friend's political popularity rise, despite it being clear that his policies are a farce. He is disappointed in the Pantheon citizenry for their inaction, though he is more disappointed with Eiki Shiki and her fellow lawmakers for not taking preemptive actions against threats to democracy. They come out of the woodwork to the keep Pantheon status quo balance, using boogeymen like the economy and officialdom against those they perceive to be nuisances to public order. Yet she refuses to go after the Friend because the Friend is respected by so many, just because he is in a position of perceived authority. Ocelot refuses to heed such a social hierarchy and resolves to have Homura upheave the Pantheon with her Reality Warper capabilities. He would use Madoka Kaname as the fire that starts a rebellion. He wants a world where the people to not hold back on their characters, something that the Patriots and all authoritative governing bodies do not allow in their rigid structure. Ocelot will not allow people to think two plus two equals five.
  • His motivations were informed to Madoka by a package at the doorstep, containing a file detailing Ocelot's character and his history. It could have contained anthrax for all Madoka knew, so she knew someone wanted her to get the file for something. She suspected that either a Major Zero, the Patriots, the Friend, or even Eiki Shiki could have been the senders and kept themselves anonymous to throw off Ocelot. The Magical Girl had more to say about Ocelot's character than concern about his apparent plots to use her as she finds his public history fascinating after reading through it. Little does she know Ocelot sent the file to them. Better to make a more positive impression on Madoka Kaname than have his character painted negatively by another source.
    Madoka: Wait, so how is he gay?
    Madoka reads the next line.
    Madoka: HE'S OBSESSED WITH SNAKE?!
• There are many manipulators whom Ocelot is in contact with who have their own goals in mind. He does not care if Lelouch vi Britannia is bringing world peace, Thrawne building an army to take over the solar system, Ozymandias summoning a giant squid, Xanatos searching for immortality, Toffee draining magic, or even Char Aznable sending meteors to Earth. All that matters is that they do not interfere with his ambitious plans, which they do try their best to do. Not because they find Ocelot a staunch ally but because they do not want to provoke his informants who hide within their ranks. His spies may not even know they are spies yet, as Ocelot is an expert on manipulating memories. One young mastermind who caught Ocelot's eye was Kokichi Oma whose manipulation skills caught the eye of the gunslinger. The boy has shown to be a brilliant Manipulative Bastard, even if Ocelot would want Kokichi to raise the bar higher than even murder. Kokichi has held a jolly expression for being inducted but is terrified at how far Ocelot might go with it. Kokichi can't dick around if he finds himself arrested for disposal of evidence. Ocelot would have had Agent Carolina be his student though he finds that her fan girling over him negates the impersonal role this apprenticeship requires.
  Big Boss: So you created your own phantom? I guess you’ll try having him shoot the same, torture the same, eat the same…
  Ocelot: I wouldn’t mind eat you.
  Big Boss: Huh?
  Ocelot: I-I mean… I wouldn’t mind having him eat with you!
• Ocelot was not going to pay mind to Celestia Ludenberg as Ocelot dislikes the French for reminding him of the Russian aristocracy. Ironically, Ocelot was born in France. But past all the makeup, he could tell the infamous Lolita gambler was not European at all and out of spite of her French emulation, Ocelot proposed to play Russian roulette with her to see if she could win every gamble. Ocelot showed her his brand of Russian roulette when he took out three guns and began juggling them in front of her. As the ultimate showcase of his gunspinning skills, every few seconds as he juggles Ocelot would aim a pistol at her and pull the trigger. If there was a bullet fired at her, then she would lose not only the game but her life. Ocelot juggled and repeatedly fired at Celestia for a full three minutes, with Celestia losing more color the longer it went on. Once those three minutes were up, Ocelot was left impressed by her luck. Though she had no control over this game he dared her, she never moved from where she stood despite her sweating fear-induced buckets. He left her alone, giving one of his revolvers as a keepsake. When Celestia looked into the cylinder, it had five bullets inside. Her face paled further, as the implication was fifteen out of eighteen times, she could have lost her bet.
• A certain Sea Otter Pokémon washed up at Mother Base and Ocelot decided to raise it for a bit. Since he raised a dog, raising a new creature would be a good change of pace for him. Upon learning that Oshawott is dexterous though, Ocelot wanted to essentially raise a copy of himself. He tried to teach Oshawott how the meow (which Ocelot is still proud of doing) and tried to have the Pokémon learn to gunspin. Needless to say, Ocelot's dream of making Revolver Oshawott did not come true and he simply released Oshawott back to where it belongs. He is happy that he got Oshawott to learn one thing from him.
  Oshawott: Oshawatt? (Oshawatt...)
  Ocelot: Close enough. I hereby dub you Revolver...
  He proceeds to spin his gun for half a minute straight.
  Ocelot: … Oshawott.
• Considering that his interest in genomes was the lure that led him to join Cipher, Ocelot has still maintained an interest in cloning projects. Not that he wishes to make another Les Effant Terribles since Big Boss would want anything but that. He wants to stop the potential exploitation of Big Boss's DNA as the United States did with the genome soldiers. A particular entity that caught Ocelot's attention was Lord Fuse whose army is commanded by clones. Outer Heaven was hit by Fuse's infamous invasion and Big Boss had his combat knife taken to have his DNA stolen. Ocelot also had stolen his DNA through six bullets that Ocelot reloaded by hand, as his gloves were in the washer at the time. Fusion monsters stared as Ocelot took time to insert long silver bullets into the greasy chamber. He wants to make sure that the Fusions do not somehow find a way to integrate Big Boss’s soldier genes into them, as Ocelot barely handled three Big Bosses as it is.
• Lain would always say she is eternally grateful for Ocelot for eliminating the Patriots’ chokehold on The Internet that they implemented after the Big Shell Incident… but she hates his guts. She has to just go online to see the chaos Ocelot brings around to be more frustrated with her. He is simply too much to handle especially in a place of little social consequence. When Ocelot pestered her with a video, she channeled all discourse from social media to a foul-mouthed response that surprised even herself.
  Ocelot: You don’t have to say no to fishing videos like that. I was also going to say that I found your address too, so I'm just going to dump it online now. Good night, my b-word.
  Lain: H-huh?
• As a result of his hijacking the Sons of the Patriots system, led to the crumbling of the war economy that caused a lengthy recession afterward. The Pantheon bore the brunt of the collapse, which led to many despising Ocelot being the primary instigator of its downfall. Ocelot says that if it weren't for the Patriots gaslighting everybody, then all people will agree that having the global market orbit around warfare is a bad idea. Firearms that are not tied to SOP have been rising in production units to the same levels as before that system's implementation, though some guns are now rarer than others.One of which is the revolver as Ocelot, law enforcement, and sporters keep stores out of stock. Barry Burton has been more than frustrated over this as he could not find a single revolver for himself after his last one jammed, hurrying to a store that held a revolver. Ocelot was also there, leading him and Burton to blows. Burton was about to go in the store to get it first as the honorable "me first" rules dictate but as Ocelot aimed a bullet at Burton (crotch preferably), something bad happened to him.
  Ocelot: An ocelot never lets his prey escape-
  [Running Over the Plot A car moving 15 miles per hour proceeds to hit Ocelot, sending him crashing to a window.]]
  Ryo Saeba: Sorry but is this the store where to buy a good revolver? Aw, dammit! They're at the counter already!
  Ocelot: G-good to know... Move me to a hospital...
• Ocelot has heard from the grapevine about the truth about Itachi Uchiha and decided to confront Itachi on a whim about his apparent sins. Itachi placed Ocelot under the Tsukoyomi there and then, but to Itachi's surprise, Ocelot broke out of his illusion when Ocelot's nanomachine-programmed arm automatically decked his face to break out of the trance. Ocelot informed Itachi of his death, and all the information he has accumulated will automatically be leaked onto the internet for everybody to see, including secrets that Itachi’s village would not want out. Ocelot is not blackmailing Itachi for anything, only wanting a relationship where Ocelot asks for a favor for Itachi, which can also work in reverse. To prove himself to the Uchiha, Ocelot gave a freebie by telling Itachi of a terrorist plot against his village. To Itachi's surprise, Ocelot was correct about the terrorist plot even though how Ocelot learned of such information was suspect to him. Itachi relies on Ocelot to give him reliable intelligence, even finding himself doing "favors" for Ocelot per their agreement. Secretly, Itachi is uncovering Ocelot's intelligence network, justifiably believing that it is a threat to international security.
• Kane may respect Ocelot greatly for being a similar brilliant man from the Soviet Union, although has questioned why Ocelot is so fixated on Big Boss when Ocelot, especially when possessing an army that surpassed all worldwide militaries. Ocelot could have easily overtaken the entire the military-industrial complex, so nothing is stopping him from surpassing Big Boss's ambitions. Ocelot simply laughed at Kane for not understanding what makes Big Boss so special. Big Boss is not a person, but a Living Legend on his own. If Big Boss is an angel cast down from heaven, then Ocelot is Adam who was tempted by the Snake. As long as there is a fire in John Doe’s eyes, then Ocelot has no doubts about following this man. Kane understands why Ocelot is so dedicated to Big Boss now, as he demanded that same faith from his followers.

Ocelot dramatically points finger-guns at the reader.

You’re pretty good.

Edited by M1gamiTensei on May 30th 2023 at 2:03:01 AM

I'll add to the Cassette Beasts profile later. I just noticed that Anti Heroes has weird capitalisation; who suggested this custom title?

Anti Heroes share a wikiword with a webcomic by the same name. Due to how custom wikiwords work, all of the pages with the same wikiword use the custom wikiword, even if the page itself doesn't have anything to do with the page where the custom wikiword comes from.

@M1gami Ocelot's mother The Boss/The Joy is in the Pantheon.

Edited by neoamon on May 30th 2023 at 2:09:02 PM

We can present an alternate title as a way to resolve the matter, like Anti-Heroism. If it's an issue, it's a simple one to solve, even if the wicking maintainence would take up some time.

@RJ — Got nothing to offer, so here's a for the Serpent and Dean.

@nightelf — Your profile looks good enough. You just need to fill out the green parts, which honestly shouldn't take so long, considering how much Littlepip has in her profile.

@faso — Unfortunately, I don't have any solid ideas for Pyrocynical, so my apologies. That said, maybe you can look at some profiles Necromancer 10 has done as a good deal of his work do involve lesser known games and works from other mediums and I'm sure some of them have a good deal of deep lore or story to go along on.

If loose ideas are possible, you could try to explore Child Haters, like the aforementioned Father and I'm sure there's more than just him in the Pantheon.

@M1gami — Ocelot seems decent enough, though I'll be honest if I said I'm a bit skeptical due to your insistency on joke paragraphs that don't mesh in well with the character you're working on. I'll double-check on Ocelot when I get time and I'll lay out a cautious, tentative for the time being.

Edited by CrimsonShark on May 30th 2023 at 1:41:23 PM

Im fine with renaming it Anti-Heroism.