Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)

Dog or Oni?

#160576: Apr 24th 2020 at 11:07:18 PM

I've wanted to ask since it has been in my sandbox but I've been considering if whether to use Badass Pacifist or Actual Pacifist for Desmond Thomas Doss. As his actual profile states, he was a pacifist who singlehandedly saved 75 wounded american soldiers in one of the most brutal theatres of World War II all without firing a single bullet. This also coincides with his past and his personality, a person who wanted to become a medic to help the wounded and his inability to wield a gun in battle, which of course sparked controversy among his comrades.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

No. 1 Entourage Fanboy

#160577: Apr 24th 2020 at 11:26:18 PM

IMO, you can take Badass Pacifist. Actual Pacifist is taken by Relena Darlian.

Edited by Muundeis on Apr 25th 2020 at 2:29:58 AM

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#160578: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:12:22 AM

Scott is up. First draft of something I adopted, Dr Abraham Erskine. BTW, where in Technology would Big Blackout go?

Dr. Abraham Erskine, The Divine Disposable Superhero Maker (Dr. Joseph Reinstein, Doctor Reinstein, Professor Reinstein)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/abraham_erskine_7.png

Adopted from: Azure Legacy
Potential House: Sources of Power (House of Power)
Demigod
Symbol: A file on "Project Rebirth"
Alignment: Lawful Good
Portfolio: Disposable Superhero Maker, Only successful creator of the Super-Soldier Serum, Herr Doktor, Death by Origin Story
Domains: Science, War, Hope, Death
Allies:
- The Marvel Universe: Steve Rogers/Captain America, Nick Fury, Bucky Barnes/The Winter Soldier, Margaret Elizabeth Carter, James Howlett/Wolverine, Tony Stark/Iron Man, Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic, T'Challa/Black Panther
- The DC Universe: Clark Kent/Superman, Bruce Wayne/Batman, Diana of Themyscira/Wonder Woman, Arthur Curry/Aquaman, Nathaniel Adam/Captain Atom
- Others: William 'B.J.' Blazkowicz, John-117/Master Chief, Commander Shepard, Prinz Eugen, Bismark, U-511, Gertrud Barkhorn, Roy Mustang, Alex Louis Armstrong, Riza Hawkeye, Maes Hughes, Senku Ishigami, Alphys, Dr Cossack, Dr Light
On good terms with: Tashkent
Conflicted on: Dr Ludwig Von Maxis
Enemies:
- The Marvel Universe: Johann Schmidt/Red Skull, HYDRA, Thanos, Ultron
- The DC Universe: Darkseid, Vril Dox/Brainiac, Lex Luthor, High Councilor Kal-El/Regime Superman, The Joker
- Others: Nazis like Millennium, Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse, Rudol von Stroheim, Rudolf von Sturmgeist and Masataka Shima, Dr Albert Wily, Nikita Dragovich, Vladimir Makarov, Father and the Homunculi loyal to him, Davros, Sundowner
Respected by: Much of the House of War and Science
Pities: Those who were created/made as weapons of war like Mewtwo
Dr. Abraham Erskine is a German Jewish scientist, who initially worked for the Nazis before he defected thanks to the aid of American soldier Nick Fury. Dr. Erskine is famously known for his work in "Project Rebirth", where he created the Super-Soldier Serum that turned the puny, scrawny, and weak Steve Rogers into the Big Good of the Marvel Universe. Always feeling that he could have done more for the good doctor, Steve set out to find a way to do him right. Concluding that Dr. Erskine's Super-Soldier Serum was the only one that didn't horribly backfire, it was decided that he would be given the title of Disposable Superhero Maker.
Why did he choose Captain America? Because Dr Erskine believed that a soldier needed a strong moral code and compassion. His serum "makes good great, and bad worse", which combined with the incomplete recipes made after him is why it often ends up as a Psycho Serum. The Grand United Alliance of Good has hired him to help produce more of the stuff, so long as a rigorous moral test is made to ensure it goes swimmingly. Erskine immediately agreed. In turn the Grand United Alliance of Evil is trying to take him alive to steal it.
Has garnered general respect from non-evil deities in the House of Science due to his integrity and value of moral character when it comes to his super-solider serum. Erskine is fond of Senku Ishigami for proving the benevolent side of science. He sympathizes with Alphys because of how her experiments backfired horribly despite having the best of intentions, and Dr Cossack because he's a good-hearted scientist who was forced to fight Mega Man because Wily held his daughter captive.
As a whole, superheroes in the Marvel and even DC universe were glad to see that Dr Abraham Erskine had become part of the Trope Pantheon. Being a military superhero himself, Nathaniel Adam was rather fond of the guy. Unfortunately many supervillains from Marvel and DC wanted him for his secrets, and to strike a spiritual defeat of sorts on the various supers. Dr Erskine is also well-respected by the House of War, and is often seen aiding heroic soldiers in the House of Soldiers And Warriors.
Colonel Mustang was interested in Dr Erskine's studies, and has asked him to help reform the military after Father's conspiracy and control on Amestris was taken down. Father himself merely sees the power his knowledge and serum would bring to his own cause. Dr Erskine agreed once he saw the likes of Maes Hughes and Riza Hawkeye were keeping his morality in check. He wondered if Alex Louis Armstrong had developed some version of the serum, but he rebuffed and proclaimed THE ARMSTRONG PHYSIC HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN FOR GENERATIONS, ALL NATURAL!
Erskine was glad to learn that Nazism has been defeated, almost completely discredited and decried as a Villain by Default ideology after his death and World War 2. Unfortunately many Nazis had entered the pantheon, most notably the Red Skull. Many Nazis want him captured so they may gain the super-soldier serum for their own. Rudol von Stroheim, while the nicest Nazi of the group(mainly because he's not genocidally racist), was still an enemy for wanting the serum for militaristic reasons.
He didn't like learning of various nasty Russian deities such as Nikita Dragovich and Vladimir Makarov. Fortunately there were kind-hearted communists like Tashkent to make up for it. Dr Erskine also didn't like how Dr Wily has hijacked a number of Robot Masters from good people for his evil ends. The good doctor gets along with Dr Light, who has suffered due to Wily and wants his creations to bring about a better world.
Doesn't like the All Germans Are Nazis trope, since as he put it "the first country the Nazis invaded was their own". Despite his defection to the US, he remains respectful of the personified ships that served on Germany's side, even if he utterly loathes the Nazis in charge of much of the war effort. He also gets along with Gertrud Barkhorn.
On good terms with famous theoretical physicist Albert Einstein, who left Nazi Germany soon as he could. Erskine has a more conflicted views with Dr Ludwig Von Maxis. They can relate in being forced to use their science for the Nazis and he understands how the love for his daughter drived him to desperate acts, however Erskine thinks many of the things he did are just too extreme for him.
Generally upset that genetic modification and serums have been abused, creating monsters like the T-002 Tyrant and I.Rex. He pities the likes of Mewtwo for the unethical manner of which a super-powered fighter was brought into the world. Mewtwo regards him as one of few humans he respects, due to his moral code and refusal to cross ethical boundaries in the field of war-time science.
Utterly despises the Mad Scientist Davros. The man used his intellect to twist the mutating Kaleds into eternally violent and ultra-xenophobic mutants, the absolute opposite of the super-soldiers like Captain America. Davros claims he saved the Kaleds from inevitable death, but Erskine sees him for the insane madman he is(plus he killed the Kaleds for trying to stop his Dalek project). He also hates the utterly immoral methods Sundowner uses to make Child Soldiers and make money off war.
Whatever happens tomorrow you must promise me one thing. That you will stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier, but a good man.

AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018

#160579: Apr 25th 2020 at 5:47:27 AM

might be a good idea to note that Dr. Erskine is aware of all natural way to create a Super-Soldier. With the use of a specific diet and training program. Also if Bullet Points is any indication, Ben Parker may have been Dr. Erskine‘s bodyguard up until testing day. Also there’s in a nice little What If? Captain America was already dead when the Avengers found him? The answer is that the world goes to hell, until The Illuminati capture Frank Castle/The Punisher and turn him into the new Captain America. Using a Super Serum created by Mister Fantastic, which is said to be actually better than the original, the world becomes a better place.

Edited by AzureLegacy on Apr 25th 2020 at 8:50:48 AM

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#160580: Apr 25th 2020 at 6:59:18 AM

First draft of Death Gun. It's been so long.

Prototype mode

Death Gun^Identities, Malevolent Deities of Collective Identities (Shouichi: XaXa, Red-Eyed XaXa, Sterben | Kyouji: Spiegel, Richter | Atsushi: Johnny Black, The Poison-Dagger)

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Potential House: Identity Issues
Intermediate Gods as Death Gun, Lesser Gods as their individual in-game personas, Quasideities IRL
Symbol: Sterben's skull mask along with his pistol
Theme Song: MAD BULLET"S"
Leitmotif: "Death Gun"
Alignment: Neutral Evil bordering on Chaotic Evil overall (Kyouji is currently True Neutral)
Portfolio: Big Bad of the Phantom Bullet Arc, Actually Three People, Looks Like Darth Vader, Uses a Type 54 "Black Star" Handgun, Wears a Stealth Mantle For Camouflage, Knight of Cerebus, Believes Weakness Is A Crime, Helmet Has Glowing Red Eyes, Siblings in Crime
- Shouichi: Once A Minor Character In The Aincrad Arc, Evil Counterpart Of Yuuki Konno, Had A Rough Childhood, Hero Killer, Physically Frail, Master Swordsman, Uses Estoc-Type Weapons
- Kyouji: Hides A Mentally Unstable Personality, Doesn't Like Kirito Getting Close To Shino, Feels Like He's Entitled To Have Shino, Only Befriended Shino Because She Killed A Bank Robber, Shino's Continued Friendship May Help Him Rehabilitate, Attempted To Kill Shino To Be Together With Her In Death, Pressured By His Parents Into A Medical Career
- Atsushi: Ax-Crazy, Has A High-Pitched Voice Disproportionate To His Appearance, Picked Up Smoking From PoH, Master Poisoner, Despite His Infamy Has Never Had More Than Two Scenes, Obviously Evil, Sackhead Slasher, The Reason Kirito Is In Underworld
Domains: Assassination, Bullets, Crime, Firearms, Heart Attacks, Death, Trauma, Tainted Love, Health, Siblinghood
Heralds: The rest of Laughing Coffin, including Vasago Casals/PoH (their guild leader) (Shouichi and Atsushi only)
High Priests: The Viridian Killer (Judge Romulus and Frère Remus)
Followers: John Dillinger, 'A', The Black Hood, Yatagarasu, CLAMP
Allies: Nobuyuki Sugou (their superior), Masamune Dan/Kamen Rider Cronus, Ali al-Saachez
- Shouichi: Esdeath, Kage
- Kyouji: Satoru Tojo/Kamen Rider Tiger,
- Atsushi: Takeshi Asakura/Kamen Rider Ouja, Ramsay Bolton, Johnathan Crane/Scarecrow, Jason Voorhees
Psycho for Hire for: The Grand United Alliance of Evil and Grand United Alliance of Chaos, Shocker, Hydra, The Black Organization, The Chaos Insurgency
Rivals: The Brave Companions, Deathstroke, Deadshot, Boba Fett
- Shouichi: Ren Gyokuen, the T-800 (original)
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Jabba the Hutt
Enemies: Kirito and Asuna, Shino Asada/Sinon^noteComplicated Relationship for Kyouji and other heroic Sword Art Online deities
- Shouichi: Good-aligned Technological Experts deities, especially Aiden Pearce
Pitied by: Good-aligned House of Family deities, Wreck-it Ralph, Vanellope von Schweetz, Ken Kaneki (Kyouji only)
It was believed that the SAO incident had ended once all its victims were awake and accounted for, but fate leaves marks. Some very dark marks. A VRMMO player and self-proclaimed bringer of Justice called Death Gun began murdering players in the game Gun Gale Online, beginning with a player named XeXeeD. The terrifying bit was that seconds after the victim's in-game avatar died, the real person died of a heart attack. The ensuing panic renewed public distrust of the genre. Word in the Pantheon even speculated that Kira had broken through his probation by the Court and was using the Death Gun avatar as a cover for his new wave of 'justice' in the SAO world. It turned out this wasn't Kira at all, but three denizens of the SAO world, two of whom were former members of the infamous SAO player-killing guild Laughing Coffin. And all three are in the Pantheon now.
- Shouichi Shinkawa, aka XaXa masterminded the plot with his brother Kyouji out of a desire to prove their killing ability and terrify pretentious VRMMO players. Kyouji would login to GGO with his brother's avatar 'Sterben' and spy on players inputting their personal particulars into an information terminal from under a camouflage mantle to plan future kills. When it was time to strike, Shouichi would break into the player's (poorly secured) house and inject them with a dose of suxamethonium chloride (succinylcholine) at the exact second Death Gun shot the player in-game.
- After Kyouji determined that without a motorcycle licence it would be difficult to get to victims on time, Shouichi enlisted the help of fellow L.C. member Atsushi Kanamoto (aka Johnny Black) to help his brother commit the IRL murders. Public skepticism drove the brothers to switch roles for the Bullet of Bullets tournament to maximize their public exposure. Kazuto Kirigaya, who was investigating the murders on behalf of Internal Affairs Ministry member Kikuoka Seijirou, caught them in the act and both were sent to prison. Atsushi would get the last laugh though and inject Kirito with their last dose of succinylcholine, kick-starting the events of the Alicization arc.
Nobuyuki Sugou initiated a full-scale assault on the prison the three were held in, emboldened by Quinella's 'accidental' ascension and requiring more Kirito haters for his ultimate plan. A company of Laughing Coffin survivors led by the Time Dopant^notea new Gaia Memory attacked the prison, stopping time to replace the trio with burnt corpses implanted with their DNA and set bombs. As a reward for the successful additions to their ranks, Ambassador Hell increased funding to Sugou's Fluctlight and Mind Control research and had the rest of Laughing Coffin become heralds of the Death Gun trio.
- Vassago Casals (aka PoH) has been put in charge of Death Gun as his main herald and has now turned Laughing Coffin into one of Shocker's foremost kill teams.
The three co-conspirators can physically access all their in-game avatars in the Pantheon, though like Sugou, this required Shocker's intervention before they could do so. Kyouji can use his GGO avatar Spiegel, Atsushi can use his Sackhead Slasher avatar from SAO, and Shouichi has the option of using either his XaXa or Sterben^notethe Death Gun appearance. Shocker has also provided the trio customized Death Gun armors which they use in addition to their in-game avatars. Pro-tip, they can be identified by their bloody armbands; red for Shouichi, green for Kyouji and black for Atsushi.
Exclusive to Shouichi:
- The brains behind the operation, Shouichi Shinkawa was set to succeed his father as a hospital director but was sick and frail for most of his early life, which made his father entrust the family legacy to his brother instead. Quitting high school and turning to virtual reality as an escape, he was trapped in SAO and fell under Vassago Casal's influence as one of the dragons of Laughing Coffin. One of the worst examples of gaming addiction in the Pantheon, he has been banned from the houses of Gaming and Technology.
- Serves as Death Gun's Mission Control, relaying instructions from employers to the other two from a desk full of computers and hacking device. While he can assume his Sterben form and go outside, he prefers not to unless the target is especially important (or Kirito). His technical know-how and exceptional memory, hacking and observational skills has earned him both the respect and hate of House of Technology deities. All good-aligned deities from the sub-house of Technological Experts hate him for his warping of technology to kill people, Aiden Pearce chief among them. In fact it was Aiden who suggested that he be banned from both houses. Shouichi found out about this and has sworn revenge.
Exclusive to Kyouji:
- Kyouji is considered The Heavy of the trio, and for good reason. Having been entrusted with his family's legacy, the pressure placed on him made him give up on reality like his brother and collaborate with him on the Death Gun incident. His romantic attachment to Shino Asada (aka Sinon) grew obsessive to the point that she was one of his targets so they would be together in death. Thankfully, he was stopped from doing so and for the little time he was incarcerated received therapy and moral support from Shino, who never stopped believing in him. Likely due to her support and not being a Laughing Coffin member, Kyouji is the most stable of the Death Gun trio and their most outgoing with the least kills. Therapy for him has continued yet he continues to be Death Gun only because one: Shouichi is his brother and two: they stay in the same temple. He isn't happy about it though, and repeatedly shouts off allusions to the remnants of his instability such this Nightmare Face◊.
- shares same voice as Ken Kaneki
Exclusive to Atsushi:

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#160581: Apr 25th 2020 at 7:14:44 AM

Repost of the Demons of Inferno, I've added to their profile. Anything else I can add or are they good to go?

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The Demons of Inferno^members, Unholy Deities of Evil Magic (As a whole: Infernal Demons, Infernals | ^{Individual titles})

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Potential House: Fields of Magic (House of Magic)
s: 4 (Azure Legacy, fasoman1996, Crownless Mimic, louisent31)
Ascending on: APR 28 (repost on ??? ??)
Range from Greater to Lesser Deities
Symbol: The Symbol of the Demons of Inferno
Theme Song: Summoning of Beastly Demons, Summoning The Infernal Demon (1st Climax Ver.), (2nd Climax Ver.)
- Gomorrah: Gomorrah Goes Berserk, Gomorrah - Devourer Of The Divine
- Insidious: Insidious - Consumer Of All, Inside Insidious
- Alraune: Alraune - Whisperer Of Dementia, Alraune's Wrath, Alraune - Whisperer Of Insanity
Alignment: Chaotic Evil in general, although some are Chaotic Neutral
Portfolio: Evil Magic, Make deals with the Umbra Witches, And drag them to Inferno when they die, Eldritch Abominations, Demons based in both evil and non-evil Darkness, Commonly eat each other, Social Darwinists, Most were once humans, animals, or even objects, as well as fallen angels
- Madama Butterfly: Is very large, Gorgeous Demoness, Noble Demoness, Unlike most of her species, Butterfly motif, Rapid-Fire Fisticuffs, Red Eyes, Take Warning, Remained loyal to Bayonetta, Fond of headbutts, Has butterfly wings
- Madama Styx: Is very large, Gorgeous Demoness, Noble Demoness, Moth motif, Remained loyal to Jeanne, Moveset Clone, Queen of the River Styx, Grants great power and knowledge counsel in exchange for one's soul, Has moth wings
- Gomorrah: Absolutely massive, Breathes fire, Dinosaur-like Draconic Beast, Eats its enemies, Kills anything that moves, "Get Back Here!" Boss, Purple Is Powerful, Red Eyes, Take Warning, Roar Before Beating, Turned against Bayonetta, Can inhale enemies into his mouth
- Malphas: Demonic Creepy Crow, Extra Eyes, Feathered Fiend, Giant Flyer, No-Holds-Barred Beatdown, Can decapitate opponents and swallow their heads, Remained loyal to Bayonetta
- Hekatoncheir: Demonic Giant, Dumb Muscle, The Faceless, The Klutz, Has six arms, No-Holds-Barred Beatdown, Rapid-Fire Fisticuffs, Remained loyal to Bayonetta
- Scolopendra: Demonic Massive Creepy Centipede, Squeezes its prey to death, Roar Before Beating, Turned against Bayonetta
- Phantasmaraneae: Demonic Giant Spider, Nests on a sea of magma, Relatively benevolent, Spits fireballs and utilizes fire-based explosions, Can summon a group of smaller spiders, Can burrow underground, Turned against Bayonetta, Wreathed in Flames
- Little Devils: Skeletal Demons, Infamous demon youths, Can be summoned using the Infernal Communicator, Can stagger smaller enemies
- Zero: Skeletal Demon, Fragile Speedster, The Grim Reaper, Two-Hit Points Wonder, King of the Little Devils, Secret Character
- Madama Khepri: Is very large, Gorgeous Demoness, Has crescent horns and scarab wings, Controls Time and the Sun, Can determine a person's fate by gazing upon the long shadow that forms between their body and the light extending from the land of the dead, Grants an almost infinite knowledge of time and the secret technique to control it in exchange for one's soul
- Labolas: Demonic three-headed Hell Hound, From Nobody to Nightmare, Viciously mauls its foes, More Teeth than the Osmond Family
- Mictlantecuhtli: Giant four-winged demon bat, Can attack with a loud shriek, Preceives the world using a spiritual sensory organ, Pint-Sized Powerhouse, Leaves trails of the plague wherever it goes, Razor Wings, Can drill its body into enemies with a tornado-like force
- Baal: Large purple-crowned demon toad, Obese royalty, Swallows her enemies whole, Gender-Blender Name, Has a very pronounced bust, Has a long spiked tongue, Which she can also use as a whip
- Hydra: Giant demonic seven-headed snake with a Gorgon-like head as a main body, Squeezes her enemies to death, Has a single eye inside the mouth of each snake head, Gorgeous Gorgon, Horn Attack, Only one snake-head is real, Can release soundwaves that can deflect projectiles, Was once a beautiful maiden
- Diomedes: Demonic Hellish Unicorn, Blade Spam, From Nobody to Nightmare, Flesh-eating horse, Horn Attack, Moody Mount, Sword Beam, Has eight legs
- Carnage: Demonic Large Dragonflies, Suicide Attack, The Swarm
- Insidious: Demonic manta-ray, Enormous Size, Big Eater, Has a skull-like face on its chest that can open up, to inhale its victims whole, Has eyes on its wings that wield tentacles that can shoot lasers, Served as a warship, Can spit torpedoes from its maw, Incredibly durable, Red Eyes, Take Warning, Throat Light, Womb Level
- Alraune: Affably Evil, Asshole Victim, Beam Spam, Beware My Stinger Tail, Chest Blaster, Combat Tentacles, Femme Fatalons, Planimal, Soul Power, Statuesque Stunner, Whip It Good
- Lesser Demons: Animalistic Abomination, Mooks, Airborne Mooks, Elite Mooks, Zerg Rush
Domain(s): Magic, Demons, Darkness
"Allies"^*Those who can control them or with whom they share common enemies: Queen Sheba, Bayo netta, Jeanne, Lucifer and the Grand United Alliance of Chaos, Dis, Mundus, The Beast, Sargeras, Fortinbras, Satan the Divine Judge, Satan who lost Paradise, Demise, Ganondorf, Ghirahim, Satan who haunts the Belmonts, Asmodeus, Diablo, Baal, Mephisto, The other Mephisto, Clown/The Violator, The Princes of Hell, The Devil of Inkwell Isles, The Seven Mortal Sins, Ten Commandments, Cacodemons, Cyberdemon, Tyrants, Vaatu, The Heartless
- Madama Styx only: Hades, Charon
- Hekatoncheir only: Drole
- Little Devils and Zero only: Sans, Papyrus, Sir Daniel Fortesque, Jack Skellington, The Skull Knight
- Madama Khepri only: Chronoa, Chronormu, Clockwork, R a, Helios, Amaterasu
- Carnage only: Megaguirus, Shino Aburame, Agitha, Sig
- Alraune only: Poison Ivy, Durathror, Audrey II
Rivals:
- Gomorrah and Labolas only: Cerberus
- Hydra only: The Lernaean Hydra
- Diomedes only: Hera
- Insidious only: Monstro
Enemies: Jubi leus and the Angels of Paradiso, Loptr, Rodin, Father Balder, YHVH and the Grand United Alliance of Law, Archangel Michael, The Seven Heavenly Virtues, Flonne, Artina, Jibril, Tyrael, Auriel, Malthael, Castiel, The Love that Moves the Stars, Eru Ilúvatar, Chakravartin, Chuck Shurley, The Alpha and Omega, God who hangs out with Bob, The One Above All, The Presence, Galeem, Dharkon, Raava, Sparda, Dante, Vergil, Nero, The Doom Slayer, Spawn, Samanosuke Akechi, Yusuke Urameshi, Illidan Stormrage, The Winchesters, War, Death, Dante Alighieri, Jeanne d'Arc, All Angels, Pretty much everyone
- Madama Khepri only: Caius Ballad, Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash
- Diomedes only: Zeus
- Carnage only: Rodan
- Insidious only: Pino cchio, Sora, Donald Duck, Goofy, Riku
Opposed by:
- Mictlantecuhtli only: Quetzalcoatl, Huehuecoyotl
Respected by:
- Diomedes only: Hercules, Alexander the Great
After Queen Sheba was born during the First Armageddon that created the Trinity of Realities, she came to live in the hellish land of Inferno. Afterwards, the Demons of Inferno entered into an endless war with the Angels of Paradiso, who sought to release their ruler, Jubileus, from her endless slumber, which would reunite the Trinity of Realities and result in the complete destruction of the world.
In contrast to the rigid hierarchy of the Laguna, the Infernal Demons engage in constant and chaotic battles for supremacy, only willing to work together during their wars with the Angels of Paradiso. However, there are several known types of Demons of varying power: Infernal Gods, demonic deities who control aspects of reality such as time, the sun and death, Demon royalty, who rule over various locations in Inferno, and lesser demons, who typically appear in groups to overpower their enemies.
Over the centuries, two clans formed among humanity who worked hard to maintain the balance of the world's light and dark forces in order to ensure the just passage of time after Aesir granted them the Eyes of the World, with the Umbra Witches receiving the Left Eye of Darkness. The Demons would form contracts with the Witches, allowing them to be summoned in battle. However, if a Witch died, their soul would be taken to Inferno, where, according to Rodin, they are forced to "wander around scared shitless for eternity."
As a group:
- The Infernal Demons ascended into the Pantheon as a response to the ascension of the Angels of Paradiso. In order to maintain the balance between light and darkness, as well as bolster the forces of the GUAC, Queen Sheba and Lucifer drew upon their respective powers and successfully managed to ascend the Demons of Inferno.
- The Demons quickly started launching assaults against Jubileus, the Angels of Paradiso and Loptr, though their lack of organization and cooperation resulted in their first couple assaults being less effective than desired. While the Demons who've made pacts with Bayonetta and Jeanne have remained loyal to them, the rest are content to ignore them as long as they stay out of their way. Surprisingly, the Demons' constant war against the Angels has resulted in them generally being less of a problem around the Pantheon than expected.
- Many of the Demons strongly dislike and fear the famed weaponsmith and fallen angel Rodin, who was feared as the most dangerous demon in the entire barren wasteland of Inferno until he disappeared and came to reside in the human world. The fact that Rodin regularly travels to Inferno in order to hunt down and kill various Demons with his bare hands and use their souls to craft his weapons has resulted in them occasionally attacking him, though Rodin himself regards these encounters as being amusing at best as well as good opportunities to acquire more souls.
- Unsurprisingly, they generally dislike Father Balder due to him being a Lumen Sage. While the Demons who've made pacts with Bayonetta and Jeanne are willing to tolerate his presence and leave him alone, all the other Demons have no reluctance with attacking him, though Balder has proven to be perfectly capable of fighting them off with minimal difficulty.
- Although they're ostensibly ruled over by Queen Sheba, she has a rather hands-off-approach to her title, seemingly content to let them do as they please and fight among themselves for supremacy. As a result, many of them ended up in the service of the other various Demon Lords throughout the Pantheon. While the main bulk of their forces were provided to Lucifer and the GUAC by Queen Sheba, numerous others ended up serving the likes of Dis, Mundus, The Beast, Sargeras, Fortinbras, Satan the Divine Judge, Satan who lost Paradise, Demise, Ganondorf, Ghirahim, Satan who haunts the Belmonts, Asmodeus, Diablo, Baal, Dul'Mephistos, Mephisto, Clown/The Violator, the Princes of Hell, the Devil of Inkwell Isles and even the Seven Mortal Sins.
- Through their alliance with the GUAC, many of the Demons also came to serve the elite demon group known as the Ten Commandments. Hekatoncheir ended up bonding with Drole due to both of them being multi-armed demonic Giants.
- They also became allies of sorts with the Cacodemons, Cyberdemons and Tyrants. Though they're from a different universe, they hold the same Social Darwinist views as the Infernal Demons, which resulted in them being able to seamlessly join them in their constant infighting as well as their wars against the Angels. However, this also further annoyed the Doom Slayer, who had been one of the first to engage the Infernal Demons after their ascension. Having fought his way through their temple, which looks like Inferno, on several occasions, the Demons quickly developed a habit of avoiding him whenever possible.
- Being creatures of darkness with mostly evil members, they swiftly drew the attention of the Heartless, in whom they found kindred spirits. The Heartless are frequently used by the Demons as fodder in their wars against the Angels, often seen fighting side by side with Lesser Demons. However, the Demons generally don't like it when the Heartless start showing up inside their temple and typically destroy any invading Heartless whenever they encounter them.
- Their conflict with Jubileus and the Angels quickly resulted in them opposing YHVH and the Grand United Alliance of Law, whom they regard as being no different from their mortal enemies. By extension they oppose all other angels in the Pantheon, regardless of their alignment, and thus became enemies with the Archangel Michael, the Seven Heavenly Virtues, Flonne, Artina, Jibril, Tyrael, Auriel, Malthael and Castiel.
- Their dislike of Jubileus also extends towards other creator gods such as the Love that Moves the Stars, Eru Ilúvatar, Chakravartin, Chuck Shurley, The Alpha and Omega, God who hangs out with Bob, The One Above All and The Presence. However, they don't really pose much of a threat to them, much to their own frustration.
- Many expected the Demons to side with Dharkon and Vaatu against their light counterparts, Galeem and Raava respectively. However, while many did indeed end up cooperating with Vaatu, they ended up opposing Darkhon due to the fact that they don't agree with his desire to destroy everything. Many also theorize that Dharkon used to be one of the Demons given how much he resembles them, but he apparently has no ties with them. He was also rumored to have once imprisoned Queen Sheba, but no one has thus far been able to confirm it.
- The Demons were quite alarmed to learn that the Legendary Dark Knight Sparda and the Umbra Witch Eva, who faced the amassed armies of Inferno in the past, were in the Pantheon. Recognizing their strength, they tend to keep their distance from them.
- Aside from the Doom Slayer, they quickly drew the attention of other demon hunters such as Dante, Vergil, Nero, Spawn, Samanosuke Akechi, Yusuke Urameshi, Illidan Stormrage and the Winchester brothers. While Lesser Demons are generally treated as fodder, with many hunters being able to take them down with relative ease, stronger Demons tend to pose a much greater challenge, with only particularly strong hunters like Dante, Spawn and Illidan Stormrage being known to have taken down some of them on their own.
- They've occasionally clashed with the Nephilim Horsemen War and Death, as they consider the existence of the hybrids to be a threat. However, since the Nephilim themselves ultimately desire to maintain balance and protect creation, the Demons don't currently regard them as their highest priority.
- Unsurprisingly, pious humans are generally opposed to them, with Dante Alighieri and Jeanne d'Arc in particular having fought them on several occasions. Having famously traveled through all 9 circles of Inferno, Dante tends to draw a lot of enmity from them.
Applies to two or more:
- Due to their resemblance to past enemies, Malphas, Scolopendra, Phantasmaraneae and Baal have all clashed with Dante and Nero on a number of occasions, though they're generally willing to leave Malphas, Baal and Phantasmaraneae alone, as the former two are still loyal to Bayonetta and the latter is generally benevolent and rarely encountered anyway.
- Gomorrah and Labolas have both developed a rivalry with Cerberus, who is occasionally charged with guarding the entrance of their temple. Being very aggressive and highly territorial, Gomorrah regularly attacks Cerberus whenever they meet, whereas Labolas tends to be friendlier and even playful towards him instead.
- The Little Devils are an infamous band of demon youth led by King Zero. By using the Infernal Communicator, one is able to temporarily contract the Little Devils, calling upon their power to attack one's foes. Being relatively benign Demons, they generally get along with other friendly skelletons such as Sans, Papyrus, Sir Daniel Fortesque, Jack Skellington and the Skull Knight.
Exclusive to Madama Butterfly:
- A demon taking the form of a woman who left this world under unfortunate circumstances, only to be reincarnated in hell. Unlike her beautiful, swallowtail butterfly-like appearance, Madama Butterfly is particularly brutal, and her reputation is well known even amongst the denizens of Inferno.
- Having once clashed with Temperantia, the Cardinal Virtue is very eager to settle the score, as their last battle culminated in one final blow that caused them both to unmanifest. Whenever their respective forces clash, the two can often be seen engaging in hand to hand combat.
Exclusive to Madama Styx:
- Queen of the River Styx, the boundary between humanity and Hades. The moths born from the magical power that flows through her body are charged with luring the souls of sinners into Inferno.
- She is on amicable terms with Hades and Charon, as the two ultimately require her permission to get souls across the River Styx into the Underworld. She notably doesn't really care much for when Hades becomes villainous, as long as he respects her sovereignty.
Exclusive to Malphas:
- An enigmatic raven-black bird shrouded in the mysteries of the sky. Ever curious, Malphas has filled itself with all the world's knowledge and mysteries. However, this same curiosity has led to a rather brutal demeanor, causing the bird to tear those it encounters to shreds with its sharp beak and razor-like talons.
- Having been responsible for killing Fortitudo by repeatedly pecking its face until it punched through Fortitudo's head and shattered the rock behind it, the two have continued their mutual enmity in the Pantheon, often fighting each other whenever their respective forces collide.
Exclusive to Hekatoncheir:
- A giant endowed with six fearsome arms capable of pulverizing mountains, those unfortunate enough to fall underfoot of the demon are subject to days-long violent earthquakes. Lacking knowledge, but brimming with brutality, it is said that even the most powerful of conjurers should take heed of the danger this beast presents.
- Due to having aided Bayonetta against Temperantia by pulling off the Cardinal Virtues' arms and pummeling him until his face was compressed into his body, Temperantia has continued to hold a grudge against him. While Hekatoncheir doesn't particularly care about Temperantia's grudge, the two nonetheless frequently clash with each other whenever their factions battle.
Exclusive to Scolopendra:
- A vile centipede hailing from Frejetonta (Phlegethon), a river of boiling blood in the depths of Inferno, rumors speak of its body exceeding ten kilometers in length. Moving unlike anything its size, its deftness allows it to wrap around and constrict its prey in the blink of an eye.
- Having previously fought against Iustitia in which it coiled around its body and squeezed it until the Cardinal Virtue was reduced to a bloody ball, the two have regularly been seen fighting one another on the battlefield during the wars between Inferno and Paradiso.
Exclusive to Phantasmaraneae:
- Phantasmaraneae nests upon a sea of magma, deep within the furthest reaches of Inferno. Rarely seen upon the face of the Earth, even sightings of the demon in hell are a seldom event, leading to its name, which means phantom spider. While having the frightening appearance of a spider, it is a curious beast, and should one have the good fortune to encounter Phatasmaraneae, one should treat it with care and respect, in hope of receiving rare treasures and secrets in return.
- When summoned by Bayonetta against Sapientia, Phantasmaraneae ended up ripping off his horns and part of his face, as well as trapping him on its web and letting its children tear his body to shreds. Although it prefers to stay in the depths of Inferno, Phantasmaraneae has occasionally ventured into battle alongside the other Demons, during which its usually seen fighting against Sapientia.
Exclusive to Madama Khepri:
- A goddess of Inferno who controls time and the sun. It is said that she can determine a person's fate by gazing upon the long shadow that forms between their body and the light extending from the land of the dead. By binding a contract with Khepri and forfeiting their soul, one can gain an almost infinite knowledge of time and the secret technique to control it.
- Having previously made a contract with the Umbra Witch Rosa, Bayonetta's mother, Madama Khepri was quite happy to reunite with her in the Pantheon and the two have since continued working together. Her pact with Rosa also resulted in her being on amicable terms with Rosa's husband, the Lumen Sage Balder, as well as the Umbra Witch Eva and the Legendary Dark Knight Sparda.
- As a Demon Goddess of time and the sun, she's on relatively friendly terms with the other time and sun deities in the Pantheon such as Chronoa, Chronormu, Clockwork, Ra, Helios and Amaterasu. They were all initially wary of her due to her Demonic nature, but ultimately warmed up to her when she proved herself to be generally benevolent.
- As the Protector of Time, she quickly came to oppose Caius Ballad and the Reverse-Flash, as the former destroyed the concept of time in his universe, while the latter is known for changing the timeline for the worse due to his pettiness.
Exclusive to Mictlantecuhtli:
- A gigantic bat that lurks in one of the darkest and deepest of Inferno's endless caves. It is said to leave trails of the plague wherever it goes. The protrusion on its head is not an eye, but a spiritual sensory organ that can allow Mictlantecuhtli to access the world in far deeper ways than beings who must only rely on sight alone.
- Due to having the same name as the Aztec god of death, Mictlantecuhtli managed to draw the attention of the Aztec gods Quetzalcoatl and Huehuecoyotl. Neither of them particularly like the demonic bat, as they believe that it gives their fellow god a bad name, which he's already prone to unfairly receiving.
Exclusive to Hydra:
- A once beautiful maiden who was banished to hell for the sins of her younger sister and mutilated into a snakelike monster with seven heads. Her human heart has long since been lost, and she viciously attacks anything she deems an enemy. Those trapped by her seven heads must suffer slow, painful deaths. Out of her many heads, only one is real; slicing off any of the others will not amount to much more than a scratch.
- She's developed a fierce rivalry with the Lernaean Hydra, who is similarly a creature with multiple heads that it's capable of regrowing. However, their fights usually end in a draw as they tend to just keep cutting off each others' heads until someone comes along to separate them.
Exclusive to Diomedes:
- Diomedes was one of the four flesh-eating mares that belonged to Diomedes of Thrace, their unnatural was believed to have been the cause of their madness, and some stories say that the mares also expelled fire when they breathed. As the eighth of his Twelve Labours, Hercules was sent by King Eurystheus to steal the Mares from Diomedes. In all versions of the story, Diomedes was eventually fed to his own horses, which calmed them down and gave Hercules the opportunity to bind their mouths shut and easily take them back to King Eurystheus.
- Eventually, the horses were murdered and arrived in hell. Of the four, the soul of one inherited the name of their former owner and was reborn as a demon. The large blade extending from its forehead is a soul reaper that leaves a trail of mutilated dead in whatever direction it runs. Though it typically hates being treated like a horse, it tolerates those who have proven themselves worthy.
- Upon learning of his identity, both Hercules and Alexander the Great showed great respect and awe for his strength and power. Hercules' ability to subdue Diomedes has resulted in him becoming one of the few that the horse allows to ride. Alexander has favorably compared him to his own horse, Bucephalus, who is said to be a descendant of the four mares.
- After being given to King Eurystheus, he dedicated the horses to Hera and, according to some versions, ordered the horses taken to Olympus to be sacrificed to Zeus. However, Zeus refused them, and sent wolves, lions, and bears to kill them. As a result, Diomedes is loyal to Hera but has a strong dislike of Zeus, which Hera finds very amusing.
Exclusive to Carnage:
- Carnage are a type of savage, poisonous bugs that nest in the cursed arrows of the bows "Kafka" and "Samsa". Pulling a string of force and releasing it vigorously, they jump at high speed and eat their target. Although they die quickly, their bodies are composed of various kinds of poisons and bacteria, allowing them to take away the lives of thousands of people even in a short period of time.
- Several swarms of Carnage quickly became subservient to Megaguirus and are regularly seen flying alongside the Meganulons doing her her bidding and wreaking havoc around the Pantheon. However, this also resulted in them becoming enemies with Rodan, who has eaten several of them during their encounters and has proven resistant to their poisons.
- In order to keep them under control, Shino Aburame, Agitha and Sig are often dispatched to deal with Carnage whenever they're causing trouble. The insect-lovers proved capable of controlling them, at least to an extent, and usually just guide them back to their temple in order to avoid harming them or anyone else. Shino in particular has expressed an interest in taming them, though his efforts have, thus far, been unsuccessful.
Exclusive to Insidious:
- A hellish ark that, while seemingly leading sinners to the Garden of Eternal Pleasures at the end of the world, was in actuality abducting them to compete in a massive bloodbath. The souls who boarded Insidious are led nowhere. Surrounded by the stench of death and rotten flesh, they massacred each other, struggling over whatever morsels of food to be come across. With a unique organ in its body that converts death into demonic energy, Insidious always carries a tremendous amount of power. A myriad of hell's creature's live within its gut, making him useful as an assault ship during wars with Paradiso. If swallowed by Insidious, the only way to escape is to stand atop a tower of corpses and wait for him to open his jaw while he engorges with his next feeding. However, those who take pleasure in killing may find their true Garden of Eternal Pleasure within this demon's bowels.
- When not serving as an assault ship in the wars with Angels, Insidious can occasionally be spotted ominously flying through the Pantheon, looking for its next meal. It eventually formed a rivalry with the similarly omnivorous Monstro, and the two have occasionally engaged in bizarre battles during which they both tried to consume each other.
- Due to its resemblance to Monstro, it quickly became enemies with those who had previously been eaten by him, such as Sora, Donald, Goofy and Riku.
Exclusive to Alraune:
- A woman who doused herself in mandrake poison and took her own life as a means of getting revenge on the husband who left her. The poison continued through her skin and devoured her soul. Consumed by hallucinations, she was at last reincarnated in Inferno. Myth places her as the young daughter of a noble estate, but none of her past visage can be determined from her current demon form. She searches the bottom of hell for the most exquisite souls, then injects poison into their nerves to make them eternal "lovers" at her palace. Insatiable desire and obsession have painted her heart so thickly that she will never know peace. Not even with the sacrifices of a thousand souls, or a million...
- After Jeanne died and went to Inferno, Alraune managed to capture Jeanne's soul to leech off of her power. She fought against Bayonetta and Madama Butterfly, whom she possessed a fierce rivalry and hatred for, when they tresspassed into her territory to rescue Jeanne. After being defeated, her soul was sealed inside the whip Alrune by Rodin, who then gave it to Bayonetta.
- Desiring revenge against Madama Butterfly, Bayonetta and Rodin, Alraune has managed to form an alliance with Poison Ivy, Durathror and Audrey II, who similarly have the power to control plants. However, Alraune regards them merely as means to an end, and plans to take their souls when she no longer considers them useful.

for both.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on Apr 25th 2020 at 6:25:43 PM

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Ghoulish Brain Worm

#160582: Apr 25th 2020 at 8:22:24 AM

@ Dr. Erskine: He'd probably be close allies with the likes of Lt. Mike Powell, Sgt. Jack Barnes, and Lt. Karl Fairburne, who are OSS agents who have worked closely with Allied scientists and engineers on occasion.

Edited by Rmpdc on Apr 25th 2020 at 11:23:31 PM

The Fight Continues!

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#160583: Apr 25th 2020 at 8:27:14 AM

Repost time. It's hard binge watching Mazinger Z just to get content for Kouji's rework and Sayaka's nomination.

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Lofwyr, God of Corporate Dragons (Hans Brackhaus, Gold Master, Gold Snout)

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Lofwyr overlooking Portland

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Hans Brackhaus, his Translator and metahuman guise

New House: Dragons and Businesses and Corporations
s: 1 (Azure Legacy)

Greater God
Symbol: The logo of Saeder-Krupp
Alignment: Lawful Neutral, but has a Chaotic Neutral worldview
Portfolio: Corporate Dragon, The Ageless, The Voiceless in Dragon Form, Affably Amoral, Bad Boss and Benevolent Boss, Despises Being Locked Out of the Loop Concerning His Company, The Chessmaster, Control Freak, Morality Based On "Givers" and "Takers", officially the richest being in the Sixth World, Social Darwinist, Supernatural Gold Eyes
Domain(s): Dragons, Corporations, Gold
Translator: Hans Brackhaus who's actually his alias as a metahuman
Herald: The Saeder-Krupp Heavy Industries Company
Followers: Fafnir, Elma Joui, Glint, Griffen Mc'Candles (Dragons Wild), Luca Rohner, Joshua Rain
Allies: Io
Rivals: Other Mega Corps in the Pantheon, mainly BnL, Scrooge McDuck, The Corpus, Philip Price, Tyrell Wellick
Enemies: Tiamat, Smaug (currently under an uneasy truce), the Grand United Alliance of Machines, Grand United Alliance of Destruction, all Eldritch Abominations, Ornstein (and Smough), Sindragosa, Grima, Acnologia, Anankos, Fafnir
Distrusts: All robots and AIs, all undead
Opposed by: Bahamut, Alexstrasza
Dragons are usually known for their hoards. Corporations are known for having lots of money and power. And thus the imagery of a dragon and the idea of a corporation combined gave rise to the trope Corporate Dragon.
- In the world of Shadowrun, its leaders aren't national presidents, monarchs, or prime ministers, but MegaCorp CEOs, and most if not all of those CEOs are dragons. And the richest of them all is Lofwyr, the CEO of Saeder-Krupp Heavy Industries, which is the second largest MegaCorp in their world, beaten only by Mitsuhama Computer Technologies, which started as a Yakuza laundering front that became lucrative in its own right, but that's another story.
- It's because of his reputation and company's success that Lofwyr was sent an invitation to Pantheon Godhood. Seeing it as a new frontier and an opportunity to expand his business (though he's told that his assets and earnings there will be exclusive to the Pantheon and cannot be brought over to his world), he accepted the offer and became a new player in its corporate stage.
- Technically speaking, he was already present in the Pantheon as a follower of Smaug, God of Treasure Hoarding, and he had been biding his time there for his eventual rise by observing all the corporations already present.
After the usual business of… setting up shop, Lofwyr took the time to fully evaluate his new surroundings. In the Pantheon, he was no longer a top dragon, and there was a whole new set of corporate players, all with differing agendas. Oh, and nations are still a thing in power.
- It was certainly interesting to see that in here, some Corporate Executives are still able to hold the moral high ground, and some managed to remain afloat despite being a lot more blatant in their shadiness. Sure, his company is big enough to encompass an entire continent, but in the Pantheon, his influence is not quite as big. Yet. He plans to change that eventually.
In regards to communication with other deities, he has two methods of communication. For deities of relatively equal power as him or greater, he uses telepathy. For "lesser" lifeforms, he employs a Translator to speak on his behalf.
- As for why Lofwyr uses a Translator in the first place, here's why: 1) their psychic voices are utterly inhuman and psychically "loud", are rarely enjoyable, and can permanently mentally scar some folks, and 2) they can't communicate through electronics like microphones or TV cameras.
Lofwyr's Translator is a human named Hans Brackhaus, a mid-level executive in Saeder-Krupp who corresponds with runners (read: mercenaries) a lot. However, according to him, he does not serve Lofwyr. That's because they're one and the same.
- As for the whole being Hans Brackhaus deal, here's the reason why. All Great Dragons in his world can take on a metahuman (human, elf, dwarf, ork, troll, etc.) form. While this allows them to be their own Mouth of Sauron, most of them don't do this, as they're easier to kill in human form. That's why Lofwyr keeps it a secret, though he's aware of the "safety net" that is the House of Life And Death, but he prefers to keep people guessing, even if there are those who can see through his charade quickly and are powerful enough to .
- Besides, the name Hans Brackhaus has been used by a number of S-K Johnsons to keep runners guessing or to give the impression that they're dealing with Lofwyr directly (to motivate them to do the job perfectly). Some elements outside of S-K have taken advantage of this fact, and have used the name to set up a false flag operation on occaision, though he eventually catches on to these, acting against them if their goals get in his way or against his image.
As a dragon, Lofwyr eventually got into meetings with the other dragons of the Pantheon, starting with the main three.
- First up was Io, the progenitor of all dragonkind. Lofwyr definitely sees just how powerful he is, but fortunately all he cares for is the safety of dragonkind (and won't get involved with inter-dragon conflicts), so the Gold Master can rest a little easy with him.
- As for Io's direct descendants however, there is considerably more friction. Bahamut is displeased with Lofwyr's ruthless business acumen but ultimately just avoids him most of the time, only crossing paths when one of Lofwyr's plots ends up being something Bahamut doesn't approve of. Lofwyr for his part thinks Bahamut is wasting his efforts being a paragon for the lesser races, but given the time period Bahamut is from, he doesn't voice this out loud.
- As for Tiamat, matters are lot more hostile, especially when she not-so-subtly courted him in a bid for more power. Having met her brother first, who had compared Lofwyr to her in a few ways, he was resistant to her advances, seeing her worldview as barbaric and nothing else (not to mention being a sore reminder of Aden, whom he's butted heads with several times, and Alamais, his brother and arch-rival). Unlike Alamais (and Sirrurg), Lofwyr is not, strictly speaking, a dragon supremacist. He believes that respect is the due of any being of great personal power and influence, not that dragons deserve it by default. She shortly lost her temper after that, attacking his company to "teach him his place". This forced him to intervene personally, something he's rarely had to do.
  - That said, even with himself and his best guards in the fray, Tiamat proved far more dangerous (with her multiple heads and multiple breath attacks), and a more seasoned combatant. Thankfully, having suspected that she would make contact with Lofwyr eventually, Bahamut and his allies (Alexstrasza and Ysera) got involved and drove away the five-headed dragoness.
- Smaug, whom he used to be a follower of, and is now a neighbor in both Houses, eventually attacked Saeder-Krupp when one of his hired Shadowrunners took some of the Middle-Earth dragon's loot back to Lofwyr's temple, resulting in another scuffle. Fortunately, Smaug wasn't as powerful as Tiamat and Lofwyr soon had him at an impasse. After returning the stolen loot (and disposing of the perpetrator), the two dragons came to an agreement; as long as Smaug doesn't attack Saeder-Krupp again, Lofwyr will leave his hoard alone and do what he can to keep others from daring to take from it.
- Smaug wasn't the only neighbor he had problems with, though. Others include the very destructive Sindragosa and Grima, given their genocidal agendas. He also opposes Arthas and his Scourge by extension, who killed and revived Sindragosa in the first place.
- Crossed paths with Fafnir when he wanted to stake a claim on Lofwyr's hoard, though the former dwarf was ultimately disappointed that most of it wasn't even gold. Still, the Great Dragon wasn't going to let this pass and they've been enemies since then.
Given his reputation against dragons, he's got his eyes on the Dovahkiin
As CEO of a MegaCorp, Lofwyr has eyes for others of his size or greater in the Pantheon. Mainly, these are Buy n Large (which was big enough to emcompass the entire world, and then ruin it and take its customers to space), Scrooge McDuck (not only has he made it big, he did it without any underhanded shortcuts), the Corpus (with its reaches spanning planetary systems, though their use of robots does make things tense between them), and E Corp.
- He's also got other people under his radar. Such as the multiversal merchant family of Annas, even if their clientele isn't much to speak of (only weapons, magic tomes, "stat-boosters", fanservice photographs, etc.). While Rodin is just a humble weaponsmith, there's also the fact that he's a fallen angel turned demon, and very powerful to boot, as some of his employees were able to gather from rumors.
In his mind, "it is the duty of the enlightened sovereign to guide the lives of his inferiors, to lead by example (and to reap the rewards)." In short, the strong deserve to rule. This has drawn Lucifer's interest, despite Lofwyr's controlling tendencies, and he's invited the dragon to join the Grand United Alliance of Chaos. No conclusive reply has been made as of yet.
After the last one who said it ended up getting swallowed whole by him, no one dares call Lofwyr a "corrupt, self-serving corporate headmaster", even if that's mostly what he is.
Even though Saeder-Krupp isn't at all racist or biased against any race, metatype, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or awakened status, Lofwyr has no tolerance for AIs and other sapient machines, holding a serious mistrust for them, though his company can occasionally hire one as a freelancer. Apparently, this is because as synthetics don't require food, money, vice, or anything else the corp could offer them as benefits, buying their loyalty is virtually impossible, and enslaving them is dangerous. One good reason for this is that one rogue A.I. his company had created was used in a plot to wipe out dragonkind — and once freed, started its own plot to enslave a Great Dragon. As such, he's gone to war with Grand United Alliance of Machines and distrusts machines of all alignments, but as stated before, he might hire the help of one in certain cases.
- He also has a dim view of Infected, ghouls, vampires, and other (near-)undead, due to his knowledge of the connection between the Human Meta-Human Vampiric Virus (that makes ghouls in his world) and the Horrors.
Out of principle, he opposes those who would destroy all of existence. Not only would it be bad for business, but it's also a reminder of the Horrors he and the rest of his kind are keeping at bay. He also has it out against Eldritch Abominations in general, and desires to remove them permanently by any means possible.
"Never deal with a Dragon."

Thomas Mutton, God of Saying Too Much (Boss, Master, Dumuzid, the Shepherd, consort of Ishtar)

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Potential House: Reveals and Twists
s: 1 (Azure Legacy)

Intermediate God
Symbol: The Stray Sheep sign
Theme Song: Alsp Sprach Brooks, Chopin Revolutionary Etude (as a Nightmare boss)
Alignment: True Neutral overall (evil in actions, good in intentions)
Portfolio: Cool Shades Even At Night Hiding His Red Glowing Eyes of Doom, Dirty Old Man, Everyone Calls Him "Master" or "Boss", Service Sector Stereotypes, Physical God, Was Once a Man, Weeding Out Cheaters And Commitment-Incapable Men Despite Being A Cheater Himself, One-Winged Angel
Domain(s): Bartending, Nightmares, Population Growth
Allies: Vincent Brooks (kinda)
Consort of: Ishtar
Enemies: Akio Ohtori
Opposed by: Princess Cadance
Opposes: Kyu Sugardust, Ato-ko Shirogane
One day, while taking a drink at Moe's Tavern, Vincent mused about the Stray Sheep back home. One thing led to another, and an envoy of the Court decided to visit the bar. They found the barkeep to be a target of interest, and invited him to join the Pantheon. For reasons only he knows, Boss accepted offer.
- That said, he shortly realized what he was ascended for: Saying Too Much, when he accidentally tipped his hand to Vincent about his schemes when the guy was just asking about Catherine's existence or what he did to Rin. This ended up tipping off Vincent to his plots as well.
- Additionally, because he cannot be merely called Boss (due to how many others bear the same moniker), his given name Thomas Mutton was rendered public knowledge. Anything else about him is from hearsay, Vincent, or Thomas himself.
His temple takes the form of his Stray Sheep bar, and doubles as a pseudo-gateway for Vincent's friends to visit him, as it's "connected" to the one in his home realm.
As it turns out, the envoy who invited Thomas to the Pantheon in the first place had ulterior motives for ascending him; to let Princess Cadance "tear him a new one" as she had said she would do when she heard of Vincent's nightmares. And that's exactly what she did, after making sure her husband ensures that no one else would be intervening.
Despite what he's done, Thomas is not the mastermind behind the Nightmares; that honor goes to Astaroth. Still, he shares the same motives; maintaining population growth and weeding out cheaters, betrayers, the deceitful, the non-commited, and homosexuals.
- Speaking of cheaters, he's in direct opposition to those who would not only turn people into Casanovas (such as Kyu) (as well as Casanovas themsleves like Akio Ohtori), but those who would ruin relationships (such as Ato-ko Shirogane). Maintaining population growth goes both ways.
- As for harems, that's a pretty mixed bag that doesn't like dealing with, even if they have good reasons for forming them such as Shido Itsuka (actually volunteered into doing it by his sister Kotori, but he's continued going with it) or Naze Turbine, or even if it works out perfectly, like with Issei Hyodo or Touya Mochizuki.
- But for those who try to be Casanovas but are unsuccessful, as long as they either don't succeed, or stick to one person once they found someone who reciprocates their feelings, Thomas finds them beneath his attention.
After hearing of what exactly his nightmares are like, a few folks are even asking him to send them those nightmares, too (it helps that Death Is Cheap in the Pantheon). Sometimes, that Rapunzel arcade game he has in the bar doesn't quite cut it.
- That said, most folks actually have it against him for that given considering how large his criterias for targeting people are and that he's a homophobe on top of being a hypocrite. So he's made very few friends.
Was surprised to see Ishtar herself, whom he was a consort of, in the Pantheon. And she is not happy to see him.
- The other Ishtar, better known as Inanna, on the other hand, proved somewhat more appealing given they come from the same multiverse, but her single-minded desire to procreate has made him a mite concerned.
Ended up attending a Bartenders Anonymous one day, where he met the other bartenders of the Pantheon; Moe Szyslak (the representative god of the trope/career), Tapper, Sojiro Sakura (though he's more on coffee and curry than liquor), Shizuo Heiwajima, and Jill Stingray. For the most part, he regards them all as simple rivals in the trade. However, Jill dislikes him for his homophobia as she is bisexual and her world is accepting of homosexuality (save for a few older folks).
Apparently kind of looks like Stan Lee to some people.

Edited by nightelf37 on Apr 25th 2020 at 11:37:05 PM

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SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#160584: Apr 25th 2020 at 8:28:19 AM

@Dr. Erskine: Also alter the Super Soldier Serum text to say that no proper Super Soldier Serum has been recreated by Dr. Erskine even though he's back, only derivatives with varying degrees of success.

Retired effective March 1, 2022

Jale_Seigneur That forum dude who's always asking questions from the Stage of Rigatoni Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: Sharing a spaghetti noodle

That forum dude who's always asking questions

#160585: Apr 25th 2020 at 9:59:51 AM

Can typos/grammar be corrected without prior discussion so long as you state the reason in the history?

"Do not underestimate the culinary theurgies available to a sufficiently devout Pastafarian." -Sofia Haugen

227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018

I hate spoilers

#160586: Apr 25th 2020 at 10:05:07 AM

for the Demons of Inferno

Everyone look at my sandbox

mega-dark Moe Game Console from Planeptune Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

Moe Game Console

#160587: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:16:52 AM

@Maple For possible allies how about characters that are on the good or neutral side that remind her of other players from New World? I have no Fate series knowledge but how about Saber being allies with Maple if only because she mistakes her for Payne, Zuko could remind her of Mii (with less MP issues), and not sure about Ninja characters but Naruto is the usual default choice.

Hyped for Hyperdimension Neptunia V 2

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012

Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.

#160588: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:25:05 AM

If there were games that have Armor-Piercing Attack, Maple would hate it.

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TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018

#160589: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:28:46 AM

The Demons of Inferno have ascended

I've noticed that the House of Magic is pretty messy, to the point that Vivi (Black Mage) is located in a different House from Aerith (White Mage).

Also, Niko Kanna needs to be moved to Artificial Beings.

Permission to rearrange to the Magic subhouses? I promise to update the links in order to prevent confusion.

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#160590: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:44:19 AM

As stated in her profile, Maple has defenses against armor-piercing attacks, too. And she's gotten used to facing such things early on after a Game-Breaker combo earned her 3rd place in a PVP event and the devs made an Obvious Rule Patch in response. Episode 3 or 4, I think.

You're supposed to explain why he fits that trope before you post any profile. Read the rules first. They should be the first thing you see before any posts.

Edited by nightelf37 on Apr 26th 2020 at 2:57:59 AM

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Witherbrine98 Since: May, 2016

#160591: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:52:00 AM

I'd like to pitch an ascension:

The Icon of Sin, God of Demonic Ressurrections (oremoR nhoJ, Final Boss, the World-Eater)

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House: Ruin and Destruction
Rank: Quasideity (Doom II), Greater God (Doom Eternal)
Symbol: The Icon's head with an exposed brain.
Theme Songs: Opening to Hell, Icon of Sin.
Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Portfolio: Being a Giant Demon, Creating Black Holes Just By Existing, Keeping Up The Fight Even When Stripped To Bone, Going Past Being A Wall
Domains: World-Devouring, Demons, DOOM, Apocalypse
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Allies: Cyberdemons, Cacodemons, all Hell-affiliated villains
Rivals: Khorne, Galactus, Godzilla
Enemies: THE DOOM SLAYER, Practically any demon killer in the pantheon.
A towering figure whose presence could end the universe by existing. Clad in white, yet no angel. Akin to a god, yet offers no salvation. With every step, it drags existence itself into the depths of Hell itself. This is the dreaded and powerful Icon of Sin, a titan forged from the heart of the fallen son of a warrior.
- The Icon's ascension was not pretty. The moment it showed up, the Icon immediately went on a rampage, warping reality and conjuring hordes among hordes of demons as it wanders the land. The GUAG sent practically everything but the kitchen sink to stop this massive demon from causing the end of their realm, but it was eventually the Doom Slayer that managed to stop the Icon of Sin, thanks to the Crucible putting it in a death-like stasis.
- It was a time of war for the Night Sentinels, and the battle was at a standstill. At some point, Commander Valen would lose his son in the fight. Desperate to see his son again, Valen would betray his people and have Hell attack Argent D'Nur in exchange for his son's resurrection. Considering it's Hell, it went about as good as you expect it to be. Using the heart of Valen's son, Hell created the Icon of Sin. The Icon has been killed by the Doom Slayer. Twice.

Admittedly, I can definitely improve on this because this isn't very good and I don't know how to do pictures here, but I'm good with what I have thus far. What do you think?

Edited by Witherbrine98 on Apr 25th 2020 at 11:55:15 AM

CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon

#160592: Apr 25th 2020 at 11:54:01 AM

Suggesting comes before making the profile itself, compounded trope titled are disallowed, and Deal with the Devil is taken.

Happy trails...

Wondering if this would be applicable: I remember that in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion attacking Sheogorath caused him to transport the player several hundred feet above ground to let gravity do the rest. And death there is pretty much guaranteed due to it being a scripted event. Not even God Mode can prevent it from coming to pass.

Now granted I don't see her wanting to pick a fight with Uncle Sheo, being an actual being of immense powers with the reputation that precedes him to boot. But being the personification of insanity means he's pretty unpredictable and prone to messing with people on his many whims.

Edited by CrownlessMimic on Apr 25th 2020 at 12:24:49 PM

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.

Excessive-Menace MaDitto from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

MaDitto

#160593: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:15:33 PM

@Jale

I corrected some typos and grammar in the past without typing in an edit reason, and that seems okay.

Welcome! Please read the rules and understand them first. Many newbies tend to jump in and make mistakes, like creating profiles before having their suggestions approved. Why does the Icon of Sin fit Came Back Wrong? Was his resurrection botched in the story?

For images, click on the edit button, and you will see "Upload Image" next to "Cancel/Back". This will allow you to upload images to the website by dragging them to a box.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Apr 25th 2020 at 12:36:30 PM

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mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012

Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.

#160594: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:27:47 PM

Welcome.

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Google "big ears"

#160595: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:42:02 PM

Even then, i'm a bit iffy on the Icon getting Came Back Wrong because the Icon itself wasn't resurrected improperly (well his return in Eternal was botched in the sense that the Makyrs cannot control him)

Lorewise, the Icon is the resurrected son of the Betrayer, a Sentinel who made a deal with hell to save his son but in return they resurrected him as the Icon of Sin. Came Back Wrong isn't really fit for that if you ask me. Plus the trope only works for the Eternal version.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Apr 25th 2020 at 4:45:42 PM

Uni cat

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Chronicle Magician

#160596: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:47:01 PM

I'd like to do a rework for Lex Luthor's profile. I don't think it's too terrible, but I feel it could be improved.

As per the rules, an explanation as to why Lex fits his tropes:

Not only is Lex one of the most popular and famous of DC Comics' many bad guys, but he's also the Arch-Enemy of Superman, the Superhero. He's evolved over the years to be able to manage many different roles as a villain as well, whether its the Mad Scientist, the Corrupt Corporate Executive, and/or the Diabolical Mastermind. He's often considered to be DC's counterpart to Marvel's Doctor Doom, due to his similar versatility and position in their respective universes. I believe that should be more than enough to justify him retaining the Supervillain trope.

As for Villain with Good Publicity, that applies to him to a lesser, but still fairly considerable, extent. Ever since the Crisis, one of the distinctive features of Luthor's character has been that Lex is a billionaire entrepreneur with a sterling reputation, despite the fact that almost as much of his billions were made illegally as they were legitimately. This gives him an incredible amount of power and makes him virtually untouchable by the law... and, more importantly, Superman, who often has to use his secret identity as the muckraking reporter Clark Kent to leave a scratch on his Arch-Enemy's name. Notably, Lex is so good at gaining and maintaining a respectable standing that he famously managed to campaign and win the role of President of the United States, despite the fact that he had a known criminal past^note.

Edited by yugi195 on Apr 25th 2020 at 2:54:22 PM

In another few hours, the sun will rise.

Witherbrine98 Since: May, 2016

#160597: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:47:04 PM

@Excessive-Menace As mentioned here, Valen made a deal with Hell to bring his son back in exchange for betraying the Night Sentinels, and Hell did bring his son back. Just not the way Valen wanted. So come to think of it, you're right, Came Back Wrong isn't the right trope to use here for what kind of god he is of. Maybe Took a Level in Badass considering its transition from Doom II to Eternal?

Also, I don't see the image editor. I dunno why. I'm using Opera for my browser for reference.

Edited by Witherbrine98 on Apr 25th 2020 at 12:55:44 PM

CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon

#160598: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:53:15 PM

Sounds sound for Lex to get an update.

Nodoka Miyazaki has that.

Edited by CrownlessMimic on Apr 25th 2020 at 12:56:35 PM

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.

CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

The Black Blade

#160599: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:56:35 PM

for some baldy who can somehow go up against cosmic beings in one way or another.

Greetings in the Pantheon. Reminder to state that before you work on a profile, you should always ask for a nomination and why you think said character is a good fir for a trope.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Apr 25th 2020 at 8:57:10 PM

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#160600: Apr 25th 2020 at 12:56:35 PM

Just so you know, there is a 3 trope limit for suggestions and if you exceed that then the profile will not be approved. Sorry but you seem to have wasted your shots for the Icon of Sin. Try again tomorrow or maybe you could choose to work on something different

Edited by fasoman1996 on Apr 25th 2020 at 5:00:10 AM

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