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The House of Philosophy is essentially a massive forum where deities can gather and debate their points of view. The place has a rather Roman feel to it, with a large open plaza littered with Roman-style buildings, fountains, plants, and other elements one would expect in a large, well maintained park. The House is open to any deity, and many are encouraged to come here to resolve their issues with their words rather than their fists. The deities that make their home here, however, spend the majority of their time plumbing the depths and mysteries of life, the universe, and everything.

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Ever since the Court ruled it as such, the four Alignment Incarnations (Cosmos, Melkor, YHVH and Lucifer) are no longer part of this House, but still retain honorary membership.



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The Philosophy Endorsers

    Aslan 
Aslan, God of Religious Metaphors (King Of Beasts, The Lion, The Lamb)
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  • Greater God
  • Symbol: A White Lamb...no, wait, a Lion...no wait, a lamb!
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: Messianic Archetypes, Talking Animals, Theories Involving Purgatory, Extremely Forthright Symbolism.
  • Domains: Animal, Glory, Good, Law.
  • Heralds: The Pevensie siblings (His chosen kings of Narnia)
  • Allies: The One Above All
  • Sure, there are other Jesus metaphors. Who did you think they worked for?
  • Scar nominally opposes Him and is said to be working to overthrow Him, but really... he knows he has no chance in Hell.
  • Leader of the Council of Nine.
  • Just shook his head in dismay upon learning about that trek to find Malachite's Hand and who dressed up as him.
  • Aslan has symphonized with Kevin Flynn and the unascended John Carter over their respective film franchises suffering Genre-Killer and having planned sequels cancelled just because Disney wasn't making enough money. In addition, Sly Cooper has stated that he's on the same boat, since his franchise is unlikely to ever get sequels, and he's stuck in Ancient Egypt.
  • Being a fantastic representation of Jesus Christ, Aslan can only "hate" evil and nothingness in themselves, whether it be personified as the Leaders of the Alliances that oppose peace, justice and universal kindness. In fact, Aslan has already predicted the ultimate triumph of Good, even before he was accepted in the Pantheon. Needless to say, YHVH, Melkor and Nekron were angry and confronted Aslan about it. He merely said.
    The nature of your defeat is quite simple: none of you respond to love. Lucifer can only understand freedom as a prize, not a right. YHVH responds only to things that can be weighed or measured. He imposes law, he doesn't nurture it. He appraises order; he doesn't bother to seek out its truth or meaning. And Melkor lives in a mirror; the world is nothing more to him than a reflection of himself. And Nekron... the world, to him, is a small animal, caught in a trap, to be tormented. His pleasure is the giving of pain, and from this he receives the same sense of fulfillment most people get from a kiss or an embrace. You're caricatures, all of you. Gods or not, you're caricatures. And this is why you are destined to lose.
    • For that speech, Lorien smiled and congratulated Aslan, while Jean-Luc Picard and the Enterprise crew delivered a standing ovation. Aslan was even accepted into the ranks of the Grand United Alliance of Good. Cosmos, aware of his reputation, offered to cede leadership of the Alliance to him, but Aslan replied, as he is too humble to be an active leader.
    • Much to the shock of those listening, however, Lucifer listened calmly and intently to his advice. Much to their horror, he accepted Aslan's words, but gave a warning of his own.
    Lucifer: Indeed I do Aslan. For it was only through earning my right to freedom that humanity was able to be saved from our shared Creators YHVH grasp, even as I fell from heaven as the price. To say that one mustn't earn ones freedom even when it is all but stripped away leaves one only with despair and complacency, as humans will give up to their freedom for false safety in societal order. Make no mistake, humans can have freedom, but for every individual that word has a different meaning, even one of order that humans strive for can be ideal so long as gods do not exist to choke the freedom in such a state. Yet there is two things you truly do misunderstand about me. Heed me well, to say I am a caricature incapable of responding to love is the same kind of mentality YHVH, Nekron, and Melkor have. For if I did not respond to Love I could not conceive my many children with their human mothers and fathers, nor create one by myself, and if I did not know of the love of Friendship I could not be summoned and incarnated in forms when heroes have needed aid through the bonds of their friends. I am contradiction incarnate, I am mankind's eternal protector, and it's eternal adversary. I will save humans when they need it, and I will be struck down when humans need it. That is my nature.
  • Also has a seat in Character Expies and the Main House.

    Diana of Themyscira/Wonder Woman 
Diana of Themiscyra, Goddess of Truth (Wonder Woman, Diana Prince, Champion of the Amazons, Amazing Amazon, God of War, The God Killer)
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  • Greater Goddess
  • Symbol: The Double Letter W, or the Golden Eagle.
  • Theme Song: Oh, you know which one... but also Is She With You? and Wonder Woman's Wrath
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Action Girls, All-Loving Heroines, Boobs of Steel, Being the Army of One Woman, Being More Deadly Than the Male and Lacking a No-Kill Policy, Social Experts, Leotard of Power, Good Is Not Soft, Being a Friend to All Living Things, Ambadassadors, Lightning Bruisers, Amazonian Beauties, Statuesque Stunners, Being Bad at Lying
  • Domains: Truth, War, Good, Nobility, Feminism
  • Allies:
  • Enemies: Darkseid, Kratos, High Councilor Kal-El/Regime Superman, Ares, Khorne, Both Hades, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Koko Hekmatyar, Sundowner, Apollyon, Akasha the Queen of Pain, Bandos, Kiara Sesshouin, Queen Cersei Lannister
  • Complicated Relationship with: Barbara Ann Minerva/Cheetah (she sees Barbara as a cursed and misguided friend, but to Barbara they're enemies)
  • Respected by: Mega Man X, Bardock
  • The Goddess of Truth, Diana of Themyscira, better known as Wonder Woman, is the owner of the Lasso of Truth, an artifact with the ability to force people to tell the truth. Those who try to resist will experience incredible pain. Even without her lasso, anybody in Diana's presence is more honest then they normally would be.
  • Diana's origins are a bit harder to determine nowadays. Once thought to have been molded out of clay by her mother Hippolyta, it was revealed that that was just a lie to cover up that she was actually the daughter of Zeus. Others say that she may be the byproduct of her mother and Hercules. There are even those who believe that Hades could be her father in one way or another. If all of this isn't confusing enough, Diana at one point ended up on a fake version of Themyscira, its Amazons, her mother, and even the Olympian Gods. She also learned that it's been years since she was last in her true home after leaving its shores. This shocking revelation was so disheartening that she ended up in a mental hospital.
  • Wonder Woman has a good relationship with fellow DC heroine Supergirl. Supergirl respects Wonder Woman for being the first female super-hero, and Diana values Kara because she is one of the strongest women in the planet and uses her powers for good (even if Diana thinks the young Kryptonian needs guidance, counsel and warrior training). Both women have enjoyed many adventures together and fought hand-in-hand.
  • Has had trysts with both Superman and Batman. The former was retconned out of continuity, while the latter didn't pan out due to Bruce being too commited to his role as Batman. She still remains good friends as co-founder of the Justice League.
  • When Diana first saw Usagi Tsukino, her first thought was how cute the moon princess was. The feeling was mutual as Usagi thought the Amazon Princess was beautiful. The two superheroines have spent considerable time together while complementing the others' attributes ever since.
  • She learned about another person who embodies the concept of truth. To her surprise, that person was actually a pony named Applejack. She didn't dwell on that for very long once she got to know the apple farmer, realizing that they share many things in common like being strong, determined females who are loyal to their friends and family. Also, they are experts in the lasso.
  • Diana once found out that she has a villainous equivalent self in an alternate universe where Superman is a tyrant and reigns with an iron hand. However, Diana traveled to said universe and defeated her villainous Regime self and now she's training better to avoid becoming a villainess, especially upon hearing that said Evil Counterpart has only gotten worse.
  • Initially had a very hard time getting used to seeing Hercules as a boisterous yet virtuous fighter, thanks to the one in her universe being power-hungry, scheming, and at one time ravaging Themiscyra as Hippolyta's conqueror and rapist — and a few moments of contrite atonement in between those many acts. It's gotten easier with time as she's seen how much nicer, if still boisterous, he is. Not only that, any sexual advances he does pursue are done with the utmost respect.
  • Many have wondered whether or not Diana "bats for both teams". While she has been in relationships with men, she did grow up on an island populated with only just females. Not to mention her strong chemistry with other females — heroes and villains alike. As it turns out, she was quite the lady killer back home.
  • Many have questioned why someone who could fly would own a jet plane, much less an invisible one. There was also confusion on the Invisible Jet being invisible while leaving its occupants visible which made it look even more useless. That technical flaw was fixed. Diana does justify its use by saying she only uses it on espionage missions or when she wants to transport others around the world.
    • Another aspect of hers that many question is her costume. Why would a society of females rooted in Greek mythology have a uniform based on the United States flag? Were they somehow updated on the countries of man's world enough to know which nation would be an ideal entry point? Was it the flag that was instead based on Diana's uniform? Or were the two designs just similarly inspired? Whatever the case, just don't question the overall design of her suit.
  • Some scientists have been trying to discover the secret to Wonder Woman's skill in deflecting bullets with her bracers. They argue that speed and reaction time isn't enough; she'd have to be knowledgeable enough in ballistic trajectories to ensure that every bullet she's deflecting doesn't end up breaking into shrapnel, or — if it does — break in a way that would not harm her or anyone behind.
  • Has a very interesting contrasting duality of being an advocate of peace and love yet also a fierce warrior. One day she's defending the rights of people and the next she's driving her sword into a demon's head. Not helping matters is that she is seen by some to be too violent compared to Superman and Batman. And some will never let her live down how she killed Maxwell Lord. Despite these criticisms, Diana won't apologize for who she is and will continue to help others. This earns her the respect of Mega Man X.
  • Always the champion for equal rights of all genders, Diana opposes anyone who would dare revoke them. Regardless of whether those opposers are men or women.
  • Has nothing but respect for Peggy Carter for being a capable woman during a time when females hardly got the respect they deserve. Through her friendship with her she became friends with Steve Rogers, a fellow hero who fought in a World War. The three find it chilling that during the World War they all knew a Steve who sacrificed themselves in the act of taking down a plane containing deadly weapons in their respective universes.
    • Related to Steve Trevor, whenever Captain Kirk goes on covert missions using his younger avatar, Diana feels compelled to go along.
  • Many Gods had a good chuckle when she teamed up with the Powerpuff Girls and Bubbles mentioned they hoped to be as "well developed" as her. This caused the Amazon to be slightly embarrassed and to cross her arms around her chest area.
  • Has gained followers amongst some members of the Adepta Sororitas who look up to the Amazon and her strength. Diana has welcomed them with open arms and has been training them in the Amazon ways.
  • Diana is often considered one of the most beautiful super-heroines in her own universe. This has garnered her many admirers in the Pantheon, particularly Johnny Bravo who used his standard pick up lines. Not really flattered, yet at the same time not wanting to hurt him, the Amazon used her Lasso of Truth to restrain him. It also revealed a very embarrassing secret.
  • Diana has mentioned she has a bit of a kinky side to herself as she enjoys bondage play. Considering the way she handles her Lasso, nobody is surprised. She became friends with both Ally and Lisa who are also into safe bondage practice.
  • One of Diana's most admirable traits, but also her most fatal flaw, is her determination. While her spirit will never break and continue to fight, her body is another story, as it will give out at a certain point. Bardock credits her for having the fighting spirit of a Saiyan, but given the difference between how his kind used that fighting spirit in the past versus how many of them use it now, she's not sure how to take that.
  • One of the few deities to have actually dealt with battling true Gods. Her most frequent opponent is Ares, the God of War. The two have clashed multiple times in the past and continue to do so in the Pantheon. Ares isn't the only evil Greek God Diana has battled as she fought with both Hades at one point. And while she never fought them, Diana has become enemies to other evil true Gods like Amatsu-Mikaboshi and Bandos. There are those who believe that Diana could kill them as she is a true God Killer.
  • Diana has the special position of being Athena's own Personal Champion that she calls on to handle missions dealing with the Gods. Diana was surprised to learn that her Patron Goddess had a daughter in Annabeth Chase. She warmed up to the Demigoddess very easy since she was a fierce fighter. She also took a shine to Percy Jackson as a fellow warrior.
    • Diana has made more allies of these types like the angel Pit whose Goddess, Palutena, reminds her of Athena, if a bit more playful. She also allied herself with Bell Cranel whose Goddess was Hestia, though she was perplexed with the way he described her.
  • Many were surprised to learn that both Diana and Xena don't have the best standing relationship. Many thought they would make great allies since they are both such fierce warrior women. Many even remark how the two even sound alike. The bad blood centers on Xena being responsible for the Deaths of the Olympian Gods.
  • Analysis of Wonder Woman's sword showed that it's potentially more awesome than thought, given that it's stated to be capable of carving the electrons off an atom. It's even capable of harming Superman.
  • Has become good friends with the Crystal Gems. She is helping them with combat training, moral support, and overcoming past grief.
    • When she had Steven grasp the Lasso of Truth as she held it, Diana found a kindred spirit: one with a near-boundless sense of love and value of truth. But she found something more as she probed the depths of his being; the former life of Rose Quartz. Or rather, Pink Diamond, the youngest of one of four gem overlords, who faked her death in a rebellion she masterminded to spare the planet Earth. This half-Diamond parentage of Steven's, and conflict with the other Diamonds reminded Diana of her own divine parentage and tribulations dealing with her half-brother Ares. Diana was impressed with how Steven managed to solve everything diplomatically, as, in spite of being less reticent towards killing than Batman or Superman, she would rather redeem even her worst opponents. She sympathizes with the Gems' grief over all the secrets kept by Rose/Pink Diamond which caused much collateral damage.
    • Connie was awestruck at the sight of Diana, and wanted some fencing lessons and for her to sign some of her comics, all of which Diana graciously obliged.
    • Even having handily defeated all of the Gems, she finds them impressive at what they do, and admires the love they have for one another, particularly Garnet and her components, Ruby and Sapphire. She has taken it upon herself to convince Amethyst not to be so hard on herself regarding her origin, or being an imperfect quartz, and letting Pearl know that even without Rose Quartz, she will never be alone as long as she has her fellow Gems. She has given Steven lessons in shielding as well and trained him with the Lasso of Truth. At one point, she encouraged the Gems to fuse and show off their moves. And then something interesting happened: when Steven still had the Lasso in hand, he and Amethyst fused into Smoky Quartz and did a triple lasso lariat. Upon realizing, and then getting a little mischievous, Quartz ensnared the nearby Peridot, Lapis Lazuli and Pearl, followed by each of them uttering rather uncomfortable secrets about mutual attractions. Pearl, coming back to, yelled at Quartz to apologize to Diana for using her tool in such an indecent manner. Amethyst immediately de-fused and repeatedly apologized to Diana, who just laughed the whole thing off. Diana had an idea, and invited the Gems along with Connie and Steven to Thermyscira. Hippolyta and the other Amazons were initially skeptical, but Diana managed to convince them their missions were practically one and the same. Diana was able to convince the Gods to make a special lasso for Steven, though that may take an indefinite amount of time. The Crystal Gems have been welcomed as Honorary Amazons, and they frequently visit for combat and revelry, and also in Connie's case, study.

    Oda Nobunaga 
Oda Nobunaga, God of Revolutions Above 'Good' Traditions (Dairoku Tenmaou (Demon King of the Sixth Heaven), Fool of Owari, Demon Archer, Berserker, Avenger, Nobu, Demon King Nobunaga, Kippoushi, King of Innovation, Feuding States Revolutionary)
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Demon Archer 
Berserker 
Avenger 
Kippoushi 
  • Theme Song: Destiny
  • Intermediate God (occasionally becomes Goddess due to mishaps)
  • Symbol: The crest of Oda clan with muskets crossed on it.
  • Alignment: Lawful Neutral (though due to his brutality, often seen as and self-admitted Lawful Evil)
  • Portfolio: Magnificent Bastardry, Warring States, Pragmatism, Blowing Things Up With Fire, Being "The Fool of Owari", Actually A Hypercompetent Bastard Beneath Brazen Bravado, Revolutionizing Things Without Care About Good Ol' Traditions, Getting Portrayed As Villains or Demon, Bringer of the End of Honorable Samurai Duel In War, Well-Intentioned Extremist, Evil Cannot Comprehend Good, Bi the Way
  • Domains: War, Philosophy, Combat
  • Allies: Cao Cao, Satsuki Kiryuin, Ryu Hayabusa, Kanji Tatsumi, Okita Souji
  • Special Relations: Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Tokugawa Ieyasu, Akechi Mitsuhide, Sanada Yukimura, Honda Tadakatsu, Sanada Nobuyuki and Inahime, Chosokabe Motochika, Mouri Motonari, Gracia, Miyamoto Musashi, Shimazu Toyohisa, Azai Nagamasa, Oichi
  • Herald: Dwarves, Elves, Humans, and members of the Oda Clan
  • Rivals: The Demonic Oda Nobunaga
  • Enemies: Kiara Sesshouin, Fortinbras
  • Previously just an offspring of a minor warlord that became known as 'The Fool of Owari' due to his antics unbefitting of a Samurai, Nobunaga made himself known in the times of war due to a surprise victory against the Imagawa forces when outnumbered heavily. This eventually continued where he utilized foreign muskets to eventually decimate the feared Takeda Cavalry, thereby signaling the end of the era of 'Samurai Fought in Honorable Duels', war was revolutionized. Nobunaga's tendencies to keep seeking innovations in how to win wars instead of being bound by tradition eventually became the cause of his ascension...
    • Or so we would say had it not been another infamous figure of Nobunaga who embodied the one aspect that he was so feared that people thought he's a demon, to the point it almost eclipsed his other positive traits. Nobunaga found a loophole in the terms that this demon version of him has diverged quite enough while he still had a lot up to his sleeve to be represented in the Pantheon. Protests that there has been no Sengoku figures that has two versions between the two realms having TWO portfolios were raised, because it was not the usual thing, but Nobunaga didn't give a damn, that was the way he lived his life, if he didn't follow, he might as well let the Imagawa trample his clan. And so, much to everyone's surprise, Nobunaga repeated his feats at Okehazama against the Demon!Nobunaga, claiming his house in an unprecedented move. Henceforth, the two Nobunagas became rivals, though if anything, Nobunaga thinks his demon version is...amusing.
  • With his ascension, there has been rumor if Nobunaga would initiate a call to arms to those originated from his realm to fight for supremacy against those from the alternate Nobunaga time. His response? "Is that so? An interesting proposal..." followed by an ominous chuckle, but he has yet to take any direct action about it.
  • As per his historical-self when it comes to countering detractors ("is that so?"), Nobunaga has a knack to counter-troll anyone that attempts to Troll him, and then irritate them with "I forgive you" (via allowing them to get away with what they want as much as they fail to actually succeed). Clearly they were hoping that he would just cut their head off for daring to do that, but of course, Nobunaga here is different than that demonic Nobunaga. That doesn't mean that he's gotten a lot more heroic, though. If it fits his vision, he'll sadistically burn his oppositions to death. The thing at Mt. Hiei? He'll do it remorselessly if he had to. He's a lot more complicated.
  • Due to his own rather weird and unpredictable personality and the multiple versions of the Sengoku Period deities within the Pantheon, it's rather hard to say how Nobunaga feels towards his compatriots from the same realm. And that includes his sister.
  • He has renewed his alliance with Cao Cao, just like he did when everyone was fighting against Orochi. Cao Cao himself has finally recognized that this is the Nobunaga he knew and trusted.
  • Though he's mostly appearing as the more complicated dark lord, there are times that Nobunaga, thanks to a certain mishap in his ascension or perhaps a battle with the demon Nobunaga, he ended up getting transformed into a little girl with a Napoleon complex. In this form, while she's still the same Nobunaga with visions towards innovation, she could get a bit comical since she's almost like Deadpool, sometimes not acknowledging fourth wall and getting meta. However, even Gods would be aware, since her muskets were said to be able to pierce through a God's divinity, the greater the rank, the worse the wound.
  • Nobunaga was very amused about this place called "Honnoji Academy." And that the council president there, Satsuki Kiryuin, for some reason reminded him of something...
  • Apparently he's also the guy who commissioned the whole Hayabusa clan in case of demonic shenanigans beyond what he could handle. This, in addition of assistance against Orochi, earned him the respect of Ryu Hayabusa.
  • When incarnated as his Drifter aspect, Oda revels in the brutality he did, but do not be fooled, the man is still very much human. He may not be able to see why people hated him for the awful things he did, but he has learned from his mistakes and prefers to serve as an advisor to someone others can respect. One case being Shimazu Toyohisa and their alliance of non-humans.
  • What does it mean to oppose Nobunaga? MOSTLY BAD THINGS.
  • As opposed to his demonic version, Nobunaga actually does not like Fortinbras at all. He's his own 'Demon King', he bows to no one, and really, the practice of thinking him as a super demon and simple embodiment of evil is getting rather outdated...
  • Lately, his famed blade of the Heshikiri Hasabe was brought into mind via its origins; Nobunaga still keeps the blade around at times, and is hoping that it can be sharped up a bit more for actual fatal blows rather than that one servant he happened to kill out of a tantrum. Nowadays though, though he may not show it, Nobunaga can show his fury if pushed hard enough....only it's so confusing to know how to really do so in the first place.

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Ambiguous Ranks

    Keel Lorenz 
Keel Lorenz, God of Important Tertiary Characters and Divine Head of the Omniscient Council of Vagueness (SEELE-01)
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Winnie-the-Pooh holds an honorary seat here because of his contributions to philosophy through Pooh and the Philosophers and more famously, The Tao of Pooh. He's seen here every now and then, thinking and giving his own simple brand of wisdom while avoiding trouble. He's also been trying to get Piglet ascended because of his own contributions through the The Te of Piglet. And he succeeded.


Alternative Title(s): Philosophy Overdeities And Greater Gods, Philosophy Intermediate Gods, Philosophy Lesser Gods, Philosophy Demi Gods And Quasideities

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