@Crimson @M1gami @Hamana for your profiles

@Gehayadren, this is not the place for that, you should know that by now.

@RJ, some suggestions to Palpatine, I'll list them in bullet points. Be warned, it's a lot.

• I don't see Megatron taking any interest in Palpatine in any manner outside of being a rival for galactic dominance, or simply being an outright enemy. Megatron's morality varies, so there are some standards, Palpatine has little to none. Some information about the Lukas Universal Cluster indicate that the Empire were enemies with both the Autobots and Decepticons. Finally there was one universe where Palpatine managed to defeat the Rebels and continued to make more Superweapons, but then Unicron eat the universe.
• I suggest removing the mention of Ian McDiarmid and Palpatine taking a liking to Satan (Paradise Lost) because of it. We stopped making relations because of Actors and Voice Actors a long time ago.
• Palpatine is more likely to admire Godzilla than be nervous of it. He didn't regret bringing the Zillo Beast to Coruscant, he only regretted that it escaped before he made further use of it, he did order it to be cloned after all.
• If Palpatine is interested in the Infinity Gauntlet, then he should definitely be interested in The Throne that's in Maximum Security.
• I'm not sure about Zapdos, because Palpatine isn't the only one to use Lightning for evil. On the paragraph of Palpatine's power, I think it's worth mentioning that he's also one of the greatest Lightsaber Duelist in history. Easily able to instantly eliminate some of the best in the Jedi Order, all while personally looking down on the very concept of Lightsaber combat. He's essentially the Master of All when it came to Dark Side of the Force, there was little he didn't know, or master, and there are a lot of Dark Side Abilities. With the full extent of his use, power and connection to the Dark Side of the Force, Palpatine was more Humanoid Abomination than simply a powerful Force User. He wasn't completely exaggerating by claiming to be "All the Sith".
  • In Star Wars Legends he was even more powerful. By Dark Empire, his level of power was reaching Lovecraft levels, becoming a nexus of the Dark Side and threatening reality just by existing.
• Finally there are more Galactic themed and associated characters for Palpatine to interact with, most are just enemies though. There's the Interstellar Alliance Advisory Board, The Federation Starfleet, the Ultras, Zordon, the Power Rangers, and the surprisingly large amount of Space Marines, Space Cops and Space Superheroes.

Edited by AzureLegacy on Sep 8th 2022 at 10:32:23 AM

Okay. Just gonna let this out now. I have two candidates from Magical Boy that I wish to nominate. Reading it for the third time to finding adequate tropes.

• Max Owen, Deity of Trans Tribulations
  • With J.J. Mackenzie not likely to be ascended, I'm putting out my own.
  • Reasoning: Max Owen is a born-woman who identifies as a man, but just as he came out to his parents about this, his mother also came out as coming from a line of Magical Girls, and wants to shove her "daughter" back in the closet due to her belief in the fact that an image of femininity powers the transformation. Still, Max struggled against that notion anyway while also handling the demons of Devoid that were running loose and attempting to break the seal made by Aurora to keep him in check. Oh, and the community's opinions against LGBT due to an influential pastor.
• Pyper Ryland, High Prophetess of Queer Children of Pastor Parents
  • Reasoning: Pyper's the daughter of the local pastor, who is strictly anti-LGBT, and she is an Armoured Closet Gay to boot. Due to events involving the Magical Boy after he rescued her from demons, she comes to terms with her sexuality, that it's NOT sinful, and becomes a steadfast ally of the trans male Max Owen (said Magical Boy), and probably started dating her old childhood friend Jen. While her father was naturally livid and tried to disown her after his congregation outed her, after the outbreak of demons from reasons unrelated to faith, and one of them thanking him for his hatred fueling them, he's starting to turn his views around.

Abstaining. Maybe they're not bad ideas, but I'd like to see what others think about them before I can drop a proper consensus.

Queen Elizabeth II just passed away at the age of 96. If you want to talk further about the queen, then go to the General RIP Thread.

I'm saying this because some weeks ago, I actually had an idea of bringing London in as a domain to represent Britain Is Only London and maybe Victorian London as it tends to be one of the most recurring cities in any fictional works, let alone those in the UK, and most people tend to be only familiar with the UK because of London, which might be because of the number of elements that are affiliated with the city, such as the British Monarchy, London Underground, several myths and fairy tales being set there and a lot more. I should also note that there have been fictionalized iterations of London and they can be incorporated in some way in the event London does become a Pantheonic Domain.

Keep in mind that this isn't a nominating suggestion, but just double-checking to make sure of things.

That said, given the Queen's death, would it be most advised if I held back on the idea for at least a week/month or two in case this sounds too much like Hype? Just asking.

I'll make some suggestions soon, but I've decided to get this out of the way. Here's the (I guess so) long-awaited beta draft for the metal band, Slayer. I'll do some independent research regarding band members though I'd be pleased if someone is willing to help out on that front. Given what their lyrics are about, any specific serial killers, Nazis, warmongerers, and particularly vile and depraved people that they could be inspired to write songs about? That, and any Metalheads or Metal appreciators in the Pantheon as well as those who would be intimidated by their sound or would condemn them for simply having "Satanic" songs?

Of course, any other suggestions and ideas are welcome.

Note: I've used red text on the top part as a way to give the paragraph a sort of dark, ominous feel. Also, the text themselves are actually opening lyrics to the song, Hell Awaits as I felt that would be an interesting way to start up their profile. Also, as to why "Su nioJ" ("Join us" spelled backwards) is written 66 times, it was said in that many amount of times. I'm open to changing it if anyone feels this is not really warranted or not really allowed though.

Prototype Mode

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Slayer, Titans of Thrash Metal

• Demigods (their Star Power is arguably equal to that of a Greater God)
• Symbol: The Band Logo, surrounded by four swords crossing into a Pentagram or a grey Eagle.
• Signature Songs: Angel of Death, Raining Blood, Black Magic, Hell Awaits, South of Heaven, Seasons in the Abyss
• Alignment: Chaotic Neutral (Often mistaken for Chaotic Evil)
• Members: Tom Araya, Kerry King, Paul Bostaph, Gary Holt
• Portfolio: Thrash Metal Pioneers, Mad Lib Metal Lyrics, Really Manly Bands, Sometimes Singing about the Devil or other Sinister Themes like Horrible History Metal, Making Songs about Personal Interests^note Serial Killers for Tom, World War II for Jeff Hanneman (former guaitarist, deceased and unascended) and Anti-Organized Religion (particularly Anti-Christianity) for Kerry, Four-Temperament Ensemble, Epic and Miniscule Rocking
• Domains: Heavy Metal, Controversy, Aggression, Influence, Horrible History
• High Priest: Kreator
• Followers: Death Angel, Overkill, Havok
• Allies: Metallica and Megadeth^note also counts as Friendly Rivals, Corey Taylor, Dethklok, Eddie Riggs, Sabaton
• Figures of Interest^note Regarding their Music: Serial Killers, Nazis, Devils and Satanists
• Opposes: YHVH
  • Kerry: Hall of Religion and Faith
• Opposed By: Moral Guardians
• Respected By: Lord Raptor
• On Good Terms With: Halls of Reptiles (Kerry) and Felines (Gary)
• On Speaking Terms With: Mayhem
• Heavy Metal; that one genre that takes the speed and energy of Rock Music and quickens its pace alongside adding a sense of gloominess and aggression to it. Now, take what is already established, further its speed, make its sound even more aggressive, employ shouting, and make your lyrics very dark, visceral, and about mature subject matters. That's what results in Thrash Metal, which takes the technicality of Metal, amplifies its already aggressive nature, and adds in elements of Punk Rock and Hardcore Punk giving it a very angry and chaotic sound and feeling to it. While Venom may have established it first and others like Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax made the genre widespread, none of them have codified the genre's overall aggression, speed, and ferociousness more than Slayer. Formed in 1981 and having a humble start as a cover band, Slayer began their true work with 1983's Show No Mercy where they showcased their signature playing style, but it was 1986's Reign in Blood that really solidified Slayer as among Metal's greatest bands thanks to it's frightening and voracious sound, lyrics, and high energy, catapulting the band into the "Big Four of Thrash Metal". While the band had its number of hiccups, including members shifting, having to deal with Moral Guardians, their work suffering from a critical and commercial drop in the mid-late 1990s, and the death of guitarist Jeff Hanneman in 2013, Slayer's reputation and influence persevered, with their content even laying out the blueprint for future Death Metal and Black Metal acts. Slayer would release twelve albums and disband in 2019, by which then they were seen as one of the greatest and most important Heavy Metal artists ever.
• Of course, even after they disbanded, Slayer would, of course, remain a highly influential band, and this even persisted onto the Pantheon, who acknowledged Slayer's reputation, despite their own music being something that not everyone was into^note after all, Metal isn't meant to be a genre for everybody. On one particular day, each of the band's last lineup, consisting of founders, bassist and lead vocalist Tom Araya, guitarist Kerry King, and additional members, guitarist Gary Holt^note also played for Exodus, and drummer Paul Bostaph^note also played for bands like Exodus, Systematic, and Testament received a note that told them that they were invited to play together at a venue in Huntington Beach, California, where Slayer first formed. Despite some conflicting thoughts over the matter, the four banded together under the Slayer label and performed towards a crowd of thousands. At the end of the concert, Slayer was told that because of their influence, they were mentioned by who they assumed to be the Trope Pantheons and that they were said to have ascended into their ranks with the band representing Thrash Metal. With the announcement, the audience cheered as Slayer began to make plans for what they were going to do in a new world where they were seen as deities of sorts, something that felt polarizing for them.
• Of course, Slayer is one of the most popular Metal bands in the Pantheon, even if their sales don't say otherwise, and it is reflective of just how incremental they are to the Metal genre as a whole and with the way they've marketed their music. Some of Slayer's more dedicated fans wanted the band to become the main Metal representatives of the House of Musicality and replace Corey Taylor. All things considered, Slayer were rather humble with Corey's spot and they were okay with where they were. As expected with their music, they have a rather scary reputation with music fans, but most of the bandmates have been said to be rather Nice Guys in private and they, in return, tend to be very interactive and supportive of their fans. It's a rather stark contrast with the sort of music they play as well as their lyrical themes which tend to consist of dark subject matter like murder, cults, war, and Satanism.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 8th 2022 at 7:35:36 PM

for Max

for Max, but for The Pastor's Queer Kid, Jared Eamons of Boy Erased seems to fit better.

Apolloyon is a peace-despising warmonger who believes that the violent and strong need not conform to the weaker masses, and that killing and fighting is part of humanity's nature. The Thraddash also love war and battling to an obsession that has wrecked their own civilization over a dozen times, and would love to talk about the nasty, brutal, or downright ridiculous acts their past Cultures have committed.

i cant believe we might actually have to put the Queen’s death under Hype Prevention.

It has potential. Victorian London seems like the more interesting choice as a Domain but for Modern London, not sure, maybe if you can give a list of deities who would have connected with the place that would help one whether it could be a Domain.

Yeah, give it like 1-2 months.

Also, I agree with M1gamiTensei, I would even put the Queen herself in Hype Prevention Sandbox as well even if she is not the creator per say, she has a huge cultural impact in pop culture that would easily fill a full profile for, imo.

Slayer Suggestions:

I'm glad you explained the red text as I initial thought it was some sort of spam. Maybe add black background there as well, to give it a dark feel?

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• For subjects, I could see them visiting the Houses of Slaughter and Military and Warfare. You can check all of the Halls for potencial subjects.
• Specific serial killers I can think of (that would make great subjects for songs):
  • Dexter Morgan - the serial killer of serial killers
  • John Doe - who themes his kills after the 7 deadly sins
  • Victor Zsasz - who marks his body every time he kills someone
  • Jack the Ripper - who never got caught
  • Hannibal Lecter - probably the one serial killer who won't appreciate a song by them due to his refine taste in everything
  • Paul and Peter - sadistic pair of killers with a device that can reverse time
  • Various Death Note deites - the mass killers Light Yagami, Misa Amane, and Teru Mikami and the Shinigami Ryuk and Rem could be an interesting subject for their songs. I would also like to point out that their second opening in a Heavy Metal song, so it fits their aesthetic quite well.
  • Might as well add these horror icons for good measure: Michael Myers, Leatherface, Freddy Krueger, Jason Vorhees, Charles Lee Ray/Chucky
• Other vile and depraved people: Alan Yates and his allies Lionel Starkweather, The Four Libertines, and Louis Bloom seem like depraved people alright. Also, Piggsy and Johan Liebert.
• Of course for those in the SS, Red Skull, Fritz Von Meyer/Swarm, HYDRA are obvious ones.
• Looking at the Metalhead page we have: Beavis & Butt-Head, Kara Danvers/Supergirl (specifically her incarnation in DC Super Hero Girls 2019), The Doom Slayer, I-no, Ibuki Mioda, Chris Jericho, Seth Rollins, Erick Rowan of The Wyatt Family, Bill & Ted, Dixie Kong, Princess Luna and Tony Stark/Iron Man.
• Another question I have for them is:
  • What is their limit? Are there any themes or actions even they themselves condone?
  • Do they have things they like that contradict their metal image?
  • Also, what does the Damien Thorn say about their music given his "connections"?

@The Anti-Life Equation

Similar believers, witnesses and takers of free will are:

• Light Yagami - initially believes this before his motive decay. Perphaps the equation could give him another opportunity at being God of the New World?
• The Dark Judges - since they believe that living itself is crime, perphaps they want to take this equation to futher their goals.
• Captain Beatty - considering he is from a world where book are burned because they contain upsetting opinions, perphap he is interested in this for his goals in removing anything that upsets people
• While not a believer, Rick and Morty would remind the equation of Unity who uses her hive mind to conquer planets so that they can be more productive. Summer probably believes this, since she has seen what happens when Unity's control was remove but I don't think she would actively take the equation.
• White Diamond formerly believes this, which is why Steven and the other Crystal Gems Garnet, Pearl and Amethyst would probably be nervous by this equation.

My only other cliques are to add more names the relationship list you can get a thumb on your next post.

@The White Martians I can't think of anything to add and your profile looks fine alright, and if you don't have more ideas for them, how about a ?

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 8th 2022 at 7:40:14 PM

Damn; so sudden. RIP

Any similar artifact or figure to the Anti-Life Equation?

The Anti-Life Equation

• Votes: 1(Crimson Shark)
• Hall: Maximum Security (The Great Treasury)
• Note: Restoration
• Appearance: The actual formula, which is [DATA EXPUNGED]
• Class Level: 0
• Museum Check: Denied
• Alignment: Lawful Evil personified
• Portfolio: The Antithesis of Free Will which Induces the Notion that Life is Meaningless, Inherently Harmful and Detrimental to the Very Concept of Sentience, When Used Incorrectly can Turn into a Zombie Plague, Mind Control, Artifact of Doom, Grants a Special Form of Enlightenment Superpower, Bends the Wills of those Affected to That of the Controller
• Domains: Anti-Life, Tyranny, Non-Sentience, Subversion of Will, Emptiness, Negative Emotion
• Current owner: Uxas/Darkseid
• Former wielders: The Anti-Monitor, Orion
• Source of interest to: The Harbingers Of Repression, the Grand United Alliance of Law
• There is a mathematical formula feared above all others. A concept that was long since deduced by the Lord of Apokolips and is his ultimate goal to obtain, allowing him to finally eliminate The Evils of Free Will. Martian scholars posed the idea that there is an equation of sorts that proves life has meaning..so Darkseid wondered if there was an antithesis. The Anti-Life Equation implants the mathematical uncertainty that life is meaningless and the concepts of freedom and hope are futile into its victims, dooming them to despair and thus bending them to the will of the User. In return for corrupting the user into committing terrible atrocities (the very act of possessing or using the Equation is inherently evil), the Equation grants the User reality-warping abilities that distort freedom over life and death. And if Darkseid has its way with it, ALL WILL BE ONE IN DARKSEID.
• As of the Final Crisis, Darkseid has the Anti-Life Equation. Well, his true, core self has it. Fortunately this knowledge hasn't transferred to all his emanations and avatars yet. His son Orion once had it, but gave it up out of dread and disgust. One version of Darkseid was imprisoned on the Source Wall for witnessing it. Another corrupted the formula with the Black Racer, creating the Anti-Living zombie Mind Virus. Another emanation of Darkseid learned what everyone else in that setting knew (they're comic book characters) and concluded the Anti-Life Equation is the fact characters are completely susceptible to reboots, retcons and Executive Meddling. After learning he was just a toy in a Youtube series, Darkseid doesn't want to talk about this theory anymore.
• The Equation has no single shape or form. It most often appears as a mass of alien glyphs and symbols, but as an equation, it can also be written down on a piece of paper, transmitted as computer code, and even be carved into the surface of Planet Earth. As a result, the Equation possess incredible virality and if used, can infect an entire planet within hours through every means of communication imaginable. To the primitive eye, the formula appears deceptively simple, which adds to its danger. Simply saying the string of words making up the Equation out loud will activate it and immediately affect every sentient being in close proximity, distorting the surrounding environment in seconds. As for the Equation itself...
  • Origin-wise, it is believed to come from the Antimatter Universe and cursed Mobius into becoming the Anti-Monitor...at least, that's the most well-known origin. Another theory is that it is utilized by Fifth Dimensional Imps as how they actually warp reality. More specifically it was theorized by Darkseid when the Joker stole Mr Mxyzptlk's powers. Supposedly the imp gave Darkseid a copy: Mister Mxyzptlk + Bat-Mite = Anti-life. The only one who has seen it for sure is Darkseid and it provoked an uncontrollable laughing fit from the New God.
  • WARNING: DO NOT READ: loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding x guilt x shame x failure x judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side. Simply saying this string of words will activate the Equation, regardless of whether you even know of the Equation or what it does, or have the intention to use it.
• The SCP Foundation takes preventing anyone and anything from ever learning the Anti-Life Equation very seriously as they consider it a major infohazard. They've dealt with hundreds of SCPs which work on a similar principle and they believe the Anti-Life Equation is closest in nature to SCP-3125. For those wondering, "The Escapee" is an Eldritch Abomination who if perceived enough will replace someone's mind with only wanting to be dedicated to and spread the anomaly's influence and concept. One can only hope that Darkseid never gains access to other info/cognito/memetic hazards the SCP Foundation has secured, lest he try to enhance the Equation.
  • I may be a toaster under Foundation captivity, but I'm glad they're looking to stop Darkseid. I don't trust my anomalous effect will even delay the Anti-Life Equation if it was used on me.
• Among the pantheon's high brass Cosmos and Lucifer have called the Anti-Life Equation absolutely immoral, finding for once they agree one something strongly; the inherent value of freedom and personal autonomy. Gaea regards it as abhorrent, and Khorne detests the Equation as it would rob someone of all true emotion and thus starve him, and the rest of the Chaos Gods. On the opposite end Melkor, YHVH and Zamasu want it to be theirs over Darkseid. Melkor himself wants mortals to retain free will as he feels that way they will suffer more, but finds the Equation undeniably useful for his evil. YHVH want the Equation the most and is intensely jealous of Darkseid for finding it. Zamasu meanwhile believes the only way mortals can be worthy of life is by using the Anti-Life Equation to be an extension of his own will.
  • Interestingly Nekron, despite being one of the worst of the main Pantheon leaders, doesn't seem to want the Anti-Life Equation. This could just be seeing any life, even robbed of its volition, as a blight, but some speculate he might have a connection to the formula; his inherent nature as an Enemy to All Living Things arguably makes him a better example of anti-life than even Darkseid.
• The Equation can be spread through all forms of electronic media. It's for this reason that Darkseid has decided to try and influence the Grand United Alliance of Machines. Though many of them boast that not being organic makes them immune, there's no evidence for this. Due to its Control Freak tendencies, SKYNET wants to incorporate the Anti-Life Equation under its control as this would prevent anyone from threatening its existence. Surprising the Lord of Apokolips, SKYNET and some other members of the GUAM thought of the idea of spreading Anti-Life through music; given his hatred of music, Darkseid half-suspects they're mocking him with their unorthodox strategy.
• Many within Darkseid's own Harbingers Of Repression seek the Anti-Life Equation. The Lord of Apokolips is well-aware that Sauron is eying up the Equation as an extreme version of his whole rings of power plan, for instance. Different members of the group have their different ideas for how they would utilize the Equation should they take it from the Treasury or somehow outwit Darkseid. The god of tyranny keeps an eye on all of them as he's more than experienced dealing with Starscreams, but he is still amused by their talking.
  • The Anti-Spiral believes that the Anti-Life Equation is the antithesis to Spiral Power. While Darkseid knows the grim consequences of the Anti-Life Equation and doesn't care, the Anti-Spiral seems to genuinely believe it's better than a universe that could potentially destroy itself. Moebius plans to put it into his whole hypnotism, while Alduin hopes to learn the Equation in the Dragon Language
  • Shao Khan is tempted by the Anti-Life Equation, but deep down part of him wonders if ruling an existence with only his will would be what he truly wants. He has had visions of worlds where he won, only to grow mad from boredom with nothing left to conquer. Of course being a self-absorbed Myopic Conqueror, it's exceedingly rare for him to think about this for more than five minutes. Other deities like Cooler are more open about how while they find the Anti-Life Equation useful, wouldn't rely on it to rule as they'd find it boring. Admittedly this might just be to keep Darkseid from being too concerned over them.
  • Big Brother is more willing to keep to himself^note maybe, we're not even sure if he's a real person as he is satisfied with only dominating Oceania without end. His own use of Thought Crime and other tactics of oppression and breaking people's spirits initially made Darkseid wonder if INGSOC had found a piece of the Anti-Life Equation and was unconsciously using it; the fact they didn't need anything supernatural to come close to emulating the Equation is why the New God respects their institution.
• Outside of Darkseid's organization, the Anti-Life Equation is considered important to those living in the Hall of Mind Control. Yuri absolutely wants to take the Anti-Life Equation for himself and transmit it in his mind control devices; Darkseid doesn't remotely see him as a threat, but does think he could be useful for developing the next generation of Justifiers. For Yuri this is probably for the best as he has tried to find people with parts of the Anti-Life Equation in them and experiment on them. One deity that almost found itself dissected in his research was the Hypnotoad, only to conclude to not be connected to the Equation as if its hypnosis can't get past Fry's mind, there's no way it can be connected to something as potent as the Equation.
• It shouldn't be understated that the Anti-Life Equation cannot be used for good due to how inherently repressive it is. Though Darkseid regards Nerose Satanel as a walking, talking Anti-Life Equation he finds that statement offensive; despite burning out free will, it resulted in a utopian society; a society built on the Anti-Life Equation could in no way be seen as utopian. Darkseid admits this, but he also pointed out just like himself his actions mean he disregards the actual desires of people over how he thinks the universe SHOULD be run.
• Given the inherently evil nature of the Anti-Life Equation, it's safe to say anyone who wants to get it for themselves either doesn't understand how bad it is, or does and are just as terrible as Darkseid. Jyggalag fits the former since as a truly inflexible God of Order, the idea the Anti-Life Equation is evil is incomprehensible to him. The other Daedric Princes (besides Molag Bal of course) regard the Anti-Life Equation as horrifying and/or antithetical and hope that Jyggalag never gets even the smallest piece of the Anti-Life Equation.
• There are a bunch of deities in the House of Leadership like Horde Prime and IT, who'd have no moral standards against using the Anti-Life Equation should they ever gain it. The only time multiple people had the complete Anti-Life Equation may have been the Anti-Monitor and Darkseid fighting, the former using it in an offensive form, so naturally the Lord of the Apokolips keeps a close watch on them. After talking with SKYNET Sigma wants to modify the Anti-Life Equation into his viral essence, in effect embodying the Anti-Life Equation. Darkseid considers such an idea laughable as he believes all his attempted assimilation with the Equation would do is cause a horrible Fate Worse than Death for his computer code.
• The only way to counteract the Equation are the concepts of freedom and hope, which in the Pantheon, can come in a variety of forms. It's for this reason that Darkseid wants to destroy the optimism half of the Hall of Optimism and Pessimism...well wants to destroy it moreso. Figures like Auriel find the Anti-Life Equation as completely antithetical to everything they believe. Due to its intrinsically repressive nature, the Anti-Life Equation is something the Chaos side of the Hall of Order and Chaos thoroughly, as does the Hall of Rebellion and Revolution. Some joke that besides freedom and hope, Leeroy Jenkins is able to counteract the Equation through sheer stubborn stupidity. The joke lasted until someone was dumb enough to say that to Darkseid's face.
  Darkseid: "That. Wasn't. Funny".
• The Life Equation appears to be the one certain counter for the Anti-Life Equation, as in its true form the Life Equation proves life is worth living. It may be derivable from the White Light of creation the Entity created. A possibly related formula is the Anti-Death Equation; used by the Gentry, it appears to turn people into warped and gruesome forms unable to die. Nothing else is known right now, and time will tell if a Death Equation also exists. Someone tried to ask Death of the Endless on the different Equations, but she hasn't said a word about it.
• Though a member of the Harbingers of Repression, AM feels he may like the Anti-Death Equation more than the Anti-Life Equation. After all, as much as he agrees with Darkseid on crushing the spirit he speculates that the Anti-Death Equation might just give the humans he hates more suffering than the Anti-Life Equation. AM also muses that had he gained the Anti-Life Equation before Darkseid, he would be perfectly willing to trade it should Darkseid give the Omega Sanction to him. While this might be AM's way of brown-nosing to Darkseid, there's a good chance he's being honest.
• Horrifyingly, there are rumors that Darkseid wants to use other items in the same Hall of Maximum Security to amplify the Anti-Life Equation into something truly unstoppable that will lead the omniverse itself under his boot. These include taking the Throne for himself, leaving nothing left behind of the old cosmos with the Chaos Heart, and spread Anti-Life across time with Kronika's Hourglass. Any one of these prospects fills any sane deity with dread and the only reason they remain rumors is that Darkseid is unsure if doing so would backfire, so he has to be safe first. That and as powerful as he is, there are even stronger forces who won't let him get close. What he does know is that like the Life Equation, the Pure Hearts are a threat to the Anti-Life Equation and he plans to destroy them.

The White Martians, Deified Evil Counterpart Race (Pale Martians, A'ashenns)

• Hall: Villainous Counterparts (House of Villainy)
• Greater Deity-level race
• Symbol: A symbol of Mars colored chalk white
• Alignment: Always Neutral Evil
• Portfolio: Aliens Are Bastards, Evil Counterpart To The Green Martian Race, Literally Only Have One Good-Aligned Member, same Shapeshifting, Super-Strength, Psychic Powers And Pyrophobia As Their Counterparts, Chalk White-Skinned And Black-Hearted, Abusive Precursors, Not This Trope In Young Justice
• Domains: Evil Counterparts, Supervillainy, Shapeshifters, Psychics, Martians, Albinism
• Interested in: Lavos
• Allies
  • Fellow Martians: Marvin the Martian, The Mars People, The Mars Attacks Martians
  • Other aliens: The Pod People, The Shroobs, Frieza, Boros, Raven Beak
  • Other allies: Envy the Jealous (and by extension their Father)
• On speaking terms with: Agent Smith, Albedo (Ben 10)
• Headbutting Villains with: Babidi, Dr Zomboss
• Rivals: Any Absolute Xenophobe faction like the Daleks or the Harvesters, Black Doom, SKYNET
  • Friendly Rivalry with: The T-1000
• Enemies
  • Martians and Mars-associated deities: J'ONN J'ONNZ, Amy Wong, John Carter, Rei Hino
  • Other: The Justice League of America and their allies, The Imperium of Mankind, humans in general, The Mushroom Kingdom, Bugs Bunny, Zim, Dib Membrane, The Men In Black, the Chozo, Shadow the Hedgehog, Apocalypse, Magneto, the X-Men, The Alliance of Free Stars, The Doom Slayer
• Opposes: Khazrak and Gorthor
• Wary of: The Hall of Fire and Heat, The Chaos Gods
• Amused by: Roger Smith, Jack From Jupiter
• In the DC Universe, Mars was home to two races with the same powers, but different appearances. The Green Martians were a proud and usually peaceful race of scholars, while the White Martians were violent warriors. The two hated each other, though as only one recorded White Martian chose a peaceful path this is justified^note and the number of evil Green Martians can be counted on one hand. Essentially the White Martians are a species-wide Evil Twin, and the Green Martians would eventually banish them to the Still Zone. But some White Martians would show up and prove they were not merely interested in one planet even solar system to lord over.
  • While in most corners of the multiverse the White Martians are very nearly Always Chaotic Evil, in the "Young Justice" universe they and the Green Martians are as morally nuanced as any human. That said, the two Martians still don't like each other.
  • It's worth noting that both Martians were originally the Burning Martians, who were violent and bloodthirsty beings that the Guardians of the Universe genetically reprogrammed and gave the race a weakness to fire in hopes they wouldn't resurface. Whether the White Martians simply retained the Burning One's Always Chaotic Evil nature or it's just a coincidence is unknown.
• The White Martians have been around a while, but their most well-know comic book appearance was in Grant Morrison's JLA run. A group of White Martians called the Hyperclan pretended to be superheroes bringing life in arid regions to win people over, to eventually wipe them out and expand their dominion. For some time they were mentally tricked into thinking they were normal humans but slowly (and through use of harvesting telepathic brains) restored their mind. Their new Evil Plan was to alter the atmosphere to make it impossible to ignite any fire...and asphyxiate the populace, turning Earth into an ultimate cornerstone of a new empire. They were forced to surrender to the Phantom Zone after some...drastic decisions.
• Due to Green-White Martian beef, they weren't all to happy to learn other Martian species exist in the Trope Pantheon. However this concern soon gave way to a pleasant surprise learning two prominent Martian races, the Mars People and the Mars Attacks! aliens, were much more White Martian in behavior than Green. There was some inevitable roasting of the latter for their weakness of "Indian Love Call", who fought back by pointing out the White Martian's weakness is easier to come by. However when it came to their mutual goals, the three evil Martian races try to behave amongst themselves. Marvin the Martian joined in the fun in hopes he can finally defeat Bugs Bunny, whom the White Martians find exceptionally frustrating as he beats his foes by being a Karmic Trickster and the Rule of Funny.
• Initially they believed that Jack from Jupiter was some forgotten Martian sub-species that, well, found itself around Jupiter. Eventually they realized him and the Seven were nothing but corporate shams, and despite being an Expy of their greatest foe Jack from Jupiter was nothing but an amoral hedonistic celebrity. Much to his frustration they found this pretty funny, and much to Jack's relief they found him too low a priority to deal with. The White Martians are also amused by Roger. While he uses Clark Kenting instead of any shape-shifting, he's good enough at impersonations even they couldn't deny it and have more or less spared him because his antics are amusing.
• They are not the only Evil Counterpart Race in the Trope Pantheon, and they heard of the leader of another: Asdrubael Vect and the Dark Eldar^note granted the regular Eldar are jerks, but no less than humans. Even they were surprised at the intense sadomasochism and they've become paranoid of the forces of Chaos due to them technically being psykers. They want nothing to do with Commorragh, and have instead focused their emnity on a more "traditional" opponent: the Imperium of Mankind. As far as they are concerned, the White Martians are living validation for their hatred of xenos. Further validation came when Frieza and Boros arrived on the scene and decided they found the White Martians valuable business partners, and said White Martians agreed. It's all an alliance of convenience, but said convenience puts any backstabbing into years in the future.
• Because their victory would have wiped out the human race, the White Martians are considered a point of contention by Black Doom. The chalk-white invaders find this counter-productive to what could be a strong alliance, while the leader of the Black Arms explained that he needs humans farmed and harvested first before they can be made extinct. As far as Shadow is concerned, there's no real difference between the two and he will not feel sorry trying to exterminate the White Martians. Despite the two seeing each as competition, the White Martians understood this because they have harvested telepathic brains to aid in reclaiming and bolstering power. Reluctantly, they hired Dr Zomboss to find and locate more telepathic brains, on the promise he can have whatever non-telepathic brain he finds. Dr Zomboss has a more cynical view on all this: it's more convenient than to let him be left to his own devises and eat brains they want.
• Despite being part of an Always Chaotic Evil race, the White Martians aren't fond of the Beastmen at all. Mainly because they regard them as "unwieldly savages", unworthy of even being their minions. They much prefer the Pod People, who in their own way can mimic populations of planets they're interested in. Another alien force that is Always Chaotic Evil they've chosen to work with is the Shroobs, though as both factions could only care about themselves it's an alliance of convenience from the get-go. Despite all their flaws, however, they aren't "xenophobic to the point of incompatibility" like the Daleks or the Harvesters, who refuse to even Enemy Mine with them. The White Martians personally find the former's posturing of being the Master Race ridiculous given they're naturally superpowered and the Daleks are squishy blobs piloting a tank.
• Not allies with Agent Smith, but they agree with his opinion that humans are disgusting. Especially due to members of their species being brainwashed into thinking they were normal humans instead of "something much greater". They agree with Albedo in finding humans hopelessly flawed, although the White Martians acknowledge this is partly their fault: they tinkered with the genetics of proto-humanity, limiting them from a species that would naturally be superpowered ala themselves into a once-in-a-million metagene seen in most human superheroes. The Green Martians regarded this as genetic vandalism, as do the Chozo who take a much different approach to the younger species. The White Martians scoff at their "limited ambition", which is why they were quite pleased by Raven Beak. Mostly for the sake of convenience but also out of mutual curiosity, the renegade Chozo and the villainous Martians have chosen to work with one another.
• Though they primarily ally with alien life and even then not that enthusiastically, the White Martians have decided to branch out and find some non-human but still Earth allies. They were interested in Envy the Jealous, a homunculus who has a deep hatred of mankind out of a sense of superiority...something the White Martians found "an agreeable temperament". Unlike the White Martians Envy is also deeply resentful about how humans are better than them. Envy's Father has chosen for the time to ally with them; though he regards literal aliens as a curveball, they agree with most his arguments that Humans Are Insects and are better to be on their good side...and both sides want to learn from one another.
• Two other inhuman beings were initially considered for an alliance with the White Martians. Though an Earth native SKYNET hates human beings, and it created the T-1000, who has similar shapeshifting abilities. While inferior to their own abilities, the White Martians believed SKYNET's attitude towards humans might make it a worthwhile ally...had SKYNET not already decided all organic life is too chaotic for its liking. So it would rather try and experiment on them to develop future Terminator models. The T-1000 was still interested in what they were doing so. The other person the White Martians looked for as an ally was Babidi in hopes of using his magic to even the playing field. However while he agreed it'd be worth his while, the White Martians remains suspicious about him. Partly because of his Stupid Evil traits, but mainly because of his ability to brainwash people with evil in their heart...which is plentiful in them.
• To make a long story short, as the White Martians are only interested in conquest and have made multiple attempts at destroying the human race, no human is willing to even be The Quisling for them. Their biggest human enemies is the Justice League of America as a whole, what with them having thwarted the most of their evil schemes. Another group they've found a pain is the Men in Black, what with their whole M.O of "stop aliens causing trouble and keep up The Masquerade". Because of the White Martians' shapeshifting and many other powers, they're a rather pernicious foe. The White Martians hold a certain sense of dread for the Doom Slayer as not only is he a One-Man Army fighting an Always Chaotic Evil race of demons, but he blew a hole in Mars and they take that personally.
• If there's anything the White Martians and J'onnn J'onnz agree on, it's that they want to stay far away from the Hall of Fire and Heat because of their extreme pyrophobia. And if there's anything else they agree with, it's their sheer exasperation at Zim's stupidity, specifically losing Mars in a dogfight with his nemesis piloting Mercury. Mars there was a Planet Spaceship "because its cool", which led to that Martian population working themselves into extinction...a fact Green and White Martian alike facepalm at. The paranoid Dib Membrane took this reaction as a reason to panic due to an actually smart alien invader race and ended up forming an Enemy Mine with Zim in order to defeat the White Martians. Zim's reasoning? Only he gets to conqueror or destroy Earth.
• Far as they are concerned Mars is rightfully theirs and they only tolerate their Martian allies in the sense of being "honorary A'ashenns" with shared enemies, not because they're that sympathetic to them. Their view of humans as an inferior lifeform has them balk at human heroes like John Carter and Rei Hino for their close association with the red planet, and in turn they are regarded by Martian humans as everything bad about Mars. The White Martians were especially irate at Amy Wong for her ancestors buying out the western hemisphere for "a shiny bead", despite the Native Martians having made peace after realizing said "bead" was such a big diamond they could just buy a better planet.
• The White Martians' brewing Fantastic Racism have led to make personal attacks against En Sabah Nur for daring to let his people have Mars and dub it Arakko. He pointed out that while he and and Max Eisenhardt have an influential position there, it's the X-Men who terraformed the planet. Apocalypse also stated they can have a crack at reclaiming the homeworld, as he and his people need adversaries like the aliens to grow. The White Martians were for their part intrigued in the mutant population and despite regarding them as an obstacle to domination they think they're impressive for Earthborn races; they just don't get why most X-Men have issues with mutant supremacy.
• The White Martians are considered problematic for the Alliance of Free Stars, though Nothing Personal; it's just that the White Martians are only interested in conquest and subjugation, and they consider an alliance of many races to be a barrier to the aforementioned interests. Said alliance noted down that members of their race have counterparts as well, though can't imagine said counterparts would like the White Martians.
  • The Yehat are the warrior race counterpart to the more peaceful Pkunk with their own psychic powers. Despite not liking the Pkunk for that reason, they still have a sense of honor and compassion to the point of uplifting the Shofixti due to similar ideals in valor, and capability of respecting other races and cooperation more than the White Martians.
  • The Syreen are another race of psychic humanoids that lost their original planet to Mycon turning their planet into a fiery wasteland. The White Martians have No Sympathy for this, though they do understand pyrophobia well enough and believe they're better at predicting their actions than most aliens.
  • The Arilou are an "in-universe inspiration" for Martians and have influenced humanity's development, and as cryptic as they are with their dimensional traveling and ulterior motives, humanity's survival is an immense priority to them. The White Martians regard them as posers who somehow stole their ideas, and cannot understand why they would put so much importance on another species.

Done with Arle and her friends' profile.

Arle Nadja, Amite, & Ringo Andou, Divine Trio of Falling Block Puzzles (Arle: Silvana)

• Intermediate Goddesses
• Symbol: The various Puyos
• Theme Music:
  • Arle: A Long-awaited Spacetime Journey!
  • Amite: Fairy Fair; I’m Gonna Be a Great Sorceress!
  • Ringo: The Puyo Puyo Song
• Alignment: Neutral Good
• Portfolio: Blond, Brunette, Redhead
  • Arle: Weirdness Magnet, Not So Above It All
  • Amite: Genius Ditz, Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold
  • Ringo: Badass Bookworm, Expressive Hair
• Domains: Puzzles, Magic
• Heralds: Carbuncle (mainly for Arle), various other friends and frenemies from their universe
• Allies: Sonic the Hedgehog, Kirby, Sig, Lemres, Lip, Akko Kagari, Mystery Inc.
• Enemies: Dr. Eggman
• Hated by: The Slime Family
• On good terms with: Rafisol
• Special Relations: Dark Prince, Schezo Wegey (mainly for Arle)
• The world of Puyo Puyo is one filled with all kinds of weird individuals (and even the ones that appear sane in comparison have their own quirks). Among the most prominent members of that world are Arle Nadja, a spellcaster who has gone on some adventures of her own before engaging in Puyo Puyo, Amite, an airheaded but kindhearted student from Primp Town, and Ringo Andou, a student from Suzuran City and is more than aware of how oddball things can get. The way Puyo Puyo battles (which are often used to handle whatever problem is happening at the moment) work is as follows: a group of multi-colored Puyos fall onto a field and matching four or more of the same color will clear them out. Chains of Puyo will result in more garbage Puyo thrown at the field of the opponent(s) and whenever someone's field gets full, they lose.
• Life went on as normal for Ringo in Suzuran City when something fell from the sky, signaling the start of yet another adventure for her. Arle and Amite arrived at that place once more and Ringo noticed that not only were Puyos falling from the sky, but so were a multitude of objects that weren’t familiar to any of them. While investigating this incident with their friends, they learned that a messenger was among those that ended up in the Puyo worlds and that they had a message to send to Ringo and her friends in regards to what was happening at the moment. Ringo and the others eventually caught up to that messenger and found themselves in yet another incident where the Puyo worlds would merge with an unfamiliar world, only in this case, it would be related to something known as the Pantheon. They were able to prevent the merger and by extension, another apocalyptic event, but considering how strange the Pantheon was, Ringo and her friends were more than welcome to visit that larger world and the other worlds associated with it any time they wanted.
• Arle, Amite, Ringo, and their friends and frenemies weren’t the only ones who engaged in Puyo battles as they learned while getting used to the large world of the Pantheon. A few entities present there had played in such battles beforehand, though the Puyos were sometimes referred to by different names (and in one instance, Timon and Pumbaa were able to get bugs to behave like Puyos as part of their activities in the jungle) to the trio’s confusion. When word of an avalanche spread throughout the Pantheon, Ringo and her friends managed to find Kirby, who happened to be near that avalanche of Puyo blobs and the quartet was able to clear it out. Kirby’s experience with Puyos involved a tournament set up by King Dedede that various participants from Dream Land took part in, with Kirby taking part and ultimately winning the Cup. In some ways, Arle noticed that Dedede was similar to her frenemies in that he comes off as a nuisance to Kirby, but will help out whenever things get dire and she, alongside Amite and Ringo, easily befriended Kirby since that avalanche incident.
• Sonic and Dr. Eggman were other entities who knew about Puyos fairly well, with Eggman having attempted to use them as part of a world domination scheme. Eggman later attempted to use Dark Prince in a separate plan, but that ended up failing thanks to the efforts of Sonic, his allies and the denizens of the Puyo world, with Dark Prince hating Eggman over that particular incident. Unlike Dedede, Eggman was a legitimate danger to the Pantheon despite his eccentricities, though Sonic has been successful in thwarting his plans, with the hedgehog even using Puyo Puyo to defeat Eggman in a battle at one point. Sonic is versatile in battle, and with the help of Arle and her friends, he’s been refining his Puyo skills in case Eggman attempts to use Puyos (or mean beans as they’re sometimes referred to) in his plans again.
• There are a number of Puyo Puyo arcade machines present in the Pantheon for others to try out that game as Kazuma Kiryu had done in his free time (alongside other Sega games). Not only do these machines exist for those willing to play the game but not engage others in magic duels doing so, but Arle and her friends have met plenty of other characters at different points. Not only did this include having Sonic tag along again, but so were a plethora of characters from worlds far removed from the Puyo world’s strange whimsy. Arguably even weirder than having Subaru Natsuki, Ichigo Kurosaki, some of the Sailor Senshi, and the EVA pilots among others getting involved in the Puyo world was Arle and her numerous acquaintances cosplaying as characters from those outside worlds. Incidentally the denizens of the Puyo world have multiple costumes outside of their normal ones and the ones inspired by outside worlds, but wearing such unusual costumes is something that would happen when things don’t get too busy for them.
• While Lip doesn’t use Puyo Puyo as her default means of puzzle games, she is someone who Arle and her friends were able to get along with because of how she mixes spells and puzzle blocks. Where Puyo Puyo involves chaining Puyos together before the field gets filled, Lip’s puzzle field is rising and needs to get rid of pieces and come up with a good combo to make things more difficult for her opponents. Having already had experience with a different type of puzzle in Tetris, Arle and her friends were intrigued with Lip’s preferred method of puzzle battles. While there were plenty of other types of puzzle battles out there, some of which are utilized by some Pantheonic denizens and some that may be more difficult than what they were used to, Arle and her friends have a fairly good understanding of how Lip’s game works much like how they were able to understand Tetris in a relatively short period of time.
• One of the more recurring problems the trio had to deal with was related to brainwashing, with Arle herself being a victim of it and becoming Dark Arle at one point due to a mysterious entity known as Ecolo. While Ecolo is now considered to be more of an annoyance than a threat despite his desire for fun posing a major risk towards others, there are far more dangerous entities capable of brainwashing others in the Pantheon and defeating them won’t be nearly as simple as a Puyo battle. Besides possessing others (the strength of which may be weaker or stronger than what Arle and the others were used to witnessing), there are devices designed and psychological methods of brainwashing others, some of which are far more dire than simply possessing someone and if Arle was already a victim of possession, she certainly doesn’t want to be brainwashed another way. Given the multitude of villains with brainwashing specialties present, Arle and her friends have taken the help of Lip (who already was prepared for the possibility of her friends being brainwashed) to stop such instances from spreading, especially if it means preventing Arle from becoming a worse version of Dark Arle.
• What was supposed to be a normal practice round of Puyo Puyo among the group took a strange turn when different types of slimes ended up getting mixed in with the Puyos. Those slimes happened to be part of a family of Slimes and the ones that ended up on that playing field happened to be the weaker members of that group. Arle and the rest of her Puyo-playing friends and frenemies are annoyed at how these Slimes end up intruding on the Puyo battles (with Ringo in particular questioning how these Slimes get mixed up alongside the Puyos), but the Slimes are horrified to learn about people who specialize in popping slimes as a means to utilize spells. There are stronger members of the Slime family that are less likely to get involved in such a mess, but with it comes stronger spells and methods to deal with them, even if it ends up frustrating whoever has to deal with them.
• As skilled as a spellcaster Arle is, she has a tendency of getting targeted by Dark Prince and Schezo; the former due to him wanting to win her heart, and the latter apparently wanting her power for himself in spite of how he words things. While she has no serious animosity towards the two despite how annoying they can get, there were other people persistently targeting others for romantic reasons that Arle had no room for tolerance towards. Gaston was one such person who Arle saw as problematic as while Dark Prince at least has his moments of clarity when things get dire (provided he has nothing to do with whatever is going on), Gaston never took the hint about Belle not being interested and went as far as trying to kill the Beast, who Belle fell in love with, despite the Beast becoming a better person thanks to Belle. As much as the squabbles between Dark Prince and Schezo over Arle get on her nerves, she knows that the two aren’t completely an issue in that they’ve tried not to be like those so-called romantics like Gaston when it comes to persistently trying to go after someone they think they love (even if Schezo has a different reason for pursuing Arle), though it’s not without some magical violence when these arguments get heated.
• Amite was used to the magic school she attended in Primp Town as well as being told about the separate magic school that Lemres and Feli go to, so learning about other magic schools in the Pantheon excited her. While there were magic practitioners that were far more openly cruel than that of her enigmatic teacher Ms. Accord, Amite wasn’t going to dwell on such a thing and decided to get to know some of the students that attended these different magic schools. Akko was someone who Amite took a strong liking towards thanks to having plenty of common, including being unskilled mages looking to improve their capabilities, having a teacher with some sort of mysterious trait, hanging out with unusual individuals (with their classmates being a part of it) and being friends with a wealthier classmate (though Raffina doesn’t exactly share the same sentiment on being a friend the way Amite does towards her). Luna Nova in general was a fascinating place for Amite and she has visited the place on occasion to improve her magic skills with Akko’s help, with Arle and Ringo tagging along every so often (and Arle giving Akko a few pointers herself on how to refine her magic during such visits).
• Ringo was already used to questioning the many strange events that happened back in her own world, so learning that the Pantheon was home to these kinds of instances on a regular basis was a lot for her to take in. Despite this, she has a fascination with solving mysteries that are part of these events and it led her and her friends to other individuals who have made a living solving bizarre events that they get word of. Mystery Inc. was one group who has solved numerous supernatural incidents regularly and Ringo and her friends ended up working with the team when what was believed to be the ghost of the various Puyos that have been popped started haunting the Pantheon. As much as Ringo is afraid of ghosts the same way that Scooby-Doo and Shaggy are afraid of anything paranormal (even if the paranormal perpetrators are just people in costumes), she and her friends worked with Mystery Inc. to debunk the phantom and get the culprit arrested. Ringo is open to working with Mystery Inc. again if the need arises given her curiosity while Arle is willing to offer Shaggy and Scooby some curry (even if it is sometimes on the spicy side) she makes whenever such meetings happen again.

I had to remind my brain that this is not other another Ringo even tho I know this one is a girl.

Maybe add the other Ringo as "Not to be confused with:" and you could get a from me

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 8th 2022 at 9:39:07 PM

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Flavor text request for my Padme rework-are there any notable what if fanfictions I could mention? When I made my ASOIAF profiles it was something mentioned

Also, putting it out there but after at least the first Hulu season of Futurama is done I am interested in reworking the Planet Express crew as a whole under Uncancelled. Just putting that out there if anyone's curious

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Sep 9th 2022 at 1:38:19 AM

I am once again back after a long hiatus, and I come with the draft of Gaston's rework. In summary, he's an narcisstic and brutish hunter who's beloved by his hometown, and feels he is entitled of Belle's affections to the point of threatening her and trying to kill her love.

Gaston, God of Songs Boasting About Superiority (Gaston LeGume)

^{Click here}  for his live-action portrayal.

^{Enraged Elk} 

• Demigod
• Symbol: Decorative antlers
• Theme Song: Gaston
• Alignment: Neutral Evil
• Portfolio: Obsessed with himself and his self-image, Doing things unlike others, eating five dozen eggs every morning, expectorating, being hammy, Parody of stereotypical manliness, Thinks he's entitled to Belle's affection to the point of trying to blackmail her and kill his rival, Beloved by his hometown despite his evil, Being much more dangerous than he seems
• Domains: Egotism, Adoration, Music, Manliness
• Herald: LeFou
• Allies: Frollo, The Heartless, The Adoring Fan, Hal Steward, Vlad Masters, Homelander of the Seven
• Enemies: The Beast, Blake Belladonna, Lauren Freed, Diana of Themyscira Bambi, Mickey Mouse, Sora, Blake Belladonna, Adam Taurus
• Abhorrent Admirer to: Belle
• Oppose: The House of Knowledge
• Some people arrogant, others think the whole world centers around them. Such was the case of Gaston, an hunter whose strength and machismo led him to be adored by everyone in his home village, much to his great pleasure. That is, everyone except Belle, the most beautiful girl in town, who considered him a boorish buffoon. Unfortunately, this didn't deter him for trying to woo her because he 'deserves the best' despite her clear objections. This went to darker parts when he tried to force her to accept by threatening to send her father to a madhouse, as the old man had been ranting about her being held in the castle of a Beast. To prevent this, the young girl revealed that it was the truth, and that she had even fallen in love with said creature. Enraged, Gaston led the townsfolk to mob the Beast's castle and kill him. This horribly backfired, and so he found himself plummeting from the top of said castle to his violent death.
  • But much to his suprise, he found himself in the Pantheon, as his self-agrandizing song had become very popular amongst people and the Court of the Gods were so struck by the sheer narcissism in its lyrics that they agreed that he was fit for the position of representing egosticital songs. While he took the offer as a 'proof' of his greatness, but learning that Belle and The Beast were there was the clincher in him accepting. His first words upon ascending were: "Nobody ascends like Gaston!"
• Naturally, both Belle and the Beast aren't pleased at all by his ascension, and he himself still very much plan to take the first for himself and slay the later as revenge. But, much as he hates to admit it, their last confrontation had shown that the cursed princess far outmatched in combat, and so he has been trying to come up with plans to get what he feels he deserve. When he's not drinking at the taverns in the House of Food, that is. Speaking of which, when he made it know to his sycophants that he was alive, they all rushed to drown him in praise once more, with his personal lackey Lefou gleefully becoming his herald. Most of the good-aligned deities are appaled that despite showing himself as clearly an evil thug, he is still adored by people around him.
  • Occasionally joining his band in singing praise is the wood elf simply known as the Adoring Fan, who started to follow Gaston after seeing him hunt down a huge bear in the House of Beasts. Tough the hunter appreciate having another suckup around, he also find his newest fan very annoying and is prone to punch and throw the poor schmuck around when he's annoyed.
• Such is his ego that he sometimes known to barge into others' conversations just to remark that, "No one can [relevant action] like Gaston!" Mickey Mouse and his friends got rather annoyed of it when he attended their nightclub, and it sure wasn't helped by the time he worked with the other Disney villains to take it over. He sometimes work with said other villains, but since he doesn't reammy share their biggest ambitions, he tends to be more of an hired muscle than anything. And like most of them, his inner darkness has attracted a few Heartless to serve his desires, with it having even manifested in the form of an hulking monster ressembling him known as the Enraged Elk. He has taken very quickly to having a monster that can take on the Beast at his beck and call.
  • Tough for how close Belle and the Beast are to Sora and his friends, Gaston has never actually met them before ascending, mainly because the Organization XII member known as Xaldin took his place as the antagonist in his world. When asked around, there seems to be hints that Maleficent just doesn't think he is significant enough to be involved with her plans. Still, the Keyblade Wielder is very adament on opposing those who want to harm his friends.
  • In particular, Claude Frollo has rather taken a shine to him due to being one of the few Disney villains who is completely human and doesn't use "the dark arts" (besides his command over Heartless, but Frollo sees them as envoy from God) and sympathetizing with "being led astray by a sinful beast-loving woman". Their twisted egoistical viewpoints have allowed the two to form a just as sick form of friendship, and there are rumors of them going through strange misadventures together.
• His primary motivation in everything he does is his belief that he's the most perfect man in the world and his desire to be recognized as such by everybody around him. Even if he literaly has a whole town of people loving him, the thought that Belle could have refused his advances enrage him. Eventually, this grandstanding brought him the attention of the twisted so-called superhero known as Homelander, and they actually managed to strike a friendship as the two narcissists saw a lot of themselves in each other, even if Gaston is disturbed by some of his new pal's more gruesome actions. Still, he is entertaining the tought of getting augmented by by Vought-American and becoming an official superero so he can get even more adulation.
• He often visits the House of Beast to continue hunting as he did back in his world, tough this as usual motivated by his desire to get praised for his feats of arms. His temple is decorated with plenty of hunting trophies from the creatures he has slain, and there are rumors that amongst them is none other than Bambi's mother. Nobody quite known if that's true, and he himself can't be bothered to know if any of his quarries has a family, but Bambi nevertheless hate the tought of a man killing animals for sports. So the new king of the forest has taken it as his duty to attack the egomaniacal huntsman whenever he sees him, much to Gaston's ire.
• As expected from a man who tried to threaten a woman into marrying him, Gaston is shamelessly mysoginist and once remarked that it's not right for women to read, lest they start thinking. This did not sit well with any of the goddesses, especially those who champion women's right like Lauren Freed and Diana of Themyscira, with both having several times vehemently thwarted his plans to force himself on Belle.
  • That said, he dislikes the thought of anybody in general reading or thinking, as he thinks it's a dangerous pastime and that men should be concerned with being strong. This did not endear him to the House of Knowledge either, and they tend to see him as representing everything wrong with societies who look down on learning and idolize being a brute. Not that he likes the thought of a place filled with boring books and stuffy bookworms either.
• Upon hearing of the tale of Hal Stewart and how they were both denied the love of the women they "deserved" as well as initial comic reliefs that became the main antagonist of their stories, he felt an instant kinship with the supervillain. And so he often invite him to drink together, with Hal being secretly elated that he's finally hanging with the 'cool dude'. Of course, they also work together to take revenge on the people they blame for their troubles, with Gaston ironically often being the brain of their plans, as he's fairly cunning and a good manipulator while 'Tighten' is a complete and utter moron. Sometimes he also work on such matters with Vlad Masters, who similarly can't land the woman he feel he is entitled to, but the half-phantom finds the hunter much too boorish to be good company.
• Became a nuisance to Blake Belladonna (and her whole team, but mostly Blake) when she ascended and Gaston heard rumors that she was another version of Belle, and he indeed found her quite familiar, especially with how much she loved reading. But upon meeting her, he quickly went into his usual views of how he felt that reading was a waste time and that there was no way soft little girls could be hunters, which earned him an hard bonk on the forehead from her sheath. Angry at this and hearing about Adam Taurus and how she 'betrayed' him, Gaston went to this temple in hopes of finding another kindred spirit. Instead, he barely escaped from the terrorist madman tyring to kill him while screaming about how he was just another arrogant and bigoted human. Needless to say, he no hates both of them.
• It should be noted that him wanting to make Belle his wife is less out of desire for her and more about how as the self-declared best man around, he deserve only the most beautiful girl around. Lefou pointed out that since this was far less true in the Pantheon than in their home village, shouldn't he be trying to go after someone like Aphrodite, the official holder of the World's Most Beautiful Woman position? Gaston conceded the point, but by now he's more motivated by how his pride was wounded by Belle's rejection and the Beast winning over him, and in repairing those 'wrongs'. Some of the snarkier dieties have pointed out that with how bad the Greek goddess of love's standards are, she might really lay with him just because he's handsome and strong.

Edited by Alecoene on Sep 9th 2022 at 11:13:21 AM

@Necromancer 10: Thanks. That alt pick for The Pastor's Queer Kid is nice too.

Gaston seems like the kinda guy who would challenge Hercules (the deity for World's Strongest Man) to a fight.

Well, the Hall of Pantheon.Bodily Form is about to be home to "everyone's favorite" (READ: her own favorite and nobody else's) body-snatching mad scientist - Lucrezia!

Edited by m-95 on Sep 9th 2022 at 11:44:39 AM

@Gaston: Don’t forget those strange adventures also involved the Anarchy Sisters- how would they react to this arrogant fool?

Sharo Kirima Created Our Friend

I wanted to make a suggestion.

Why don't we make the House Of Dread And Valor have a literal Nightmare Fuel Station and have whoever holds the (in this case literal) Nightmare Fuel Station Attendant trope and a few other Gods of Fear run it.

We could have the Boogieman be the owner or station store clerk, or both.

Peppermint Butler has Nightmare Fuel Station Attendant, by the way. That idea sounds okay to me, but I'd wait until others pipe in with their two cents first.

I was hoping to get substantial work done on Klonoa's rework before posting these two again but I'm feeling yet another block/dis-motivation coming... So before that happens, how are King of Sorrow and Joka looking? Think they're ready to be ascended or are there any flavors or interactions to be had?

I guess I'm wondering if any certain deities have something to say about King of Sorrow's red eyes, specifically the part about them looking that way due to weeping. Maybe a fellow royal who could relate with King of Sorrow's tragedy on some level? And for Joka, as I found a way to include "Flower Joka from Klonoa Heroes: Densetsu no Star Medal, would any flower deities take any interest in the clown fiend?

Oh yeah, I also changed King of Sorrow's pic to be a screenshot from Phantasy Reverie lol Thoughts on that, in comparison to the first?

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King of Sorrow, God of Accepting Sadness (King, KoS)

^{Massive Spoiler}  Top: "Baguji the Wise", King of Sorrow's puppet. Bottom: "Monster Baguji", King of Sorrow's transformation

• Potential House: Types of Sadness
• Intermediate God; borderline Greater God
• Symbol: Nemo Moo
• Theme Song: King of Sorrow's Theme. King of Sorrow, when in combat. Dubmix version as "Monster Baguji"
• Alignment: True Neutral with Good leanings. Formerly Neutral Evil bordering on Chaotic
• Portfolio: Walking Spoiler, Anti-Villain, Royals Who Actually Do Something, An extremely sympathetic person driven to villainy from being rejected and forgotten, Unsettling red eyes, Only known by his title, Sorrowful reflection of Klonoa's Phantomilian appearance, Only wanted to save his ruined kingdom and to be remembered regardless of potential harm, Speaks fluent Lunatean, Died in Klonoa's arms into a trail of light, Redeemed on death
• Domains: Sorrow, Tears, Royalty, Tragedy, Acceptance
• Heralds: Leorina and Tat
• Allies: Klonoa, Sadness, Joy, Princess Luna and Princess Celestia, Merlina, Agatha Penderghast, Count Bleck, Scarlet Witch, Hiro Hamada and Baymax (and the rest of Big Hero 6), Yesod, Sonic the Hedgehog, Miles "Tails" Prower, The House of Despondency as a whole (minus the particularly evil ones)
• Enemies: Joka, Nightmare, Saya, Stan Smith, Evil deities who suppress or try to forget their sorrows
• Opposes: Good and Neutral deities who suppress or try to forget their sorrow (with certain exceptions, like Dr. Zalost)
• Pities: Malygos, Odio/Oersted, (Generally tragic/woobie villains who have not reformed in life or in death)
• In the world of Lunatea, there were five kingdoms that each embody a state of the mind: La-Lakoosha, the Kingdom of Tranquility. Joilant, the Kingdom of Joy. Volk, the Kingdom of Discord. Mira-Mira, the Kingdom of Indecision. And Hyuponia, the Kingdom of Sorrow. However, while people could embrace if not desire tranquility, joy, discord, and indifference... Those who encounter sorrow would do their best to forget it, to pretend sorrow never existed. And ultimately, the Lunateans would do exactly that with Hyuponia; putting a veil over their eyes to ignore the Kingdom of Sorrow and then forgetting there was ever a fifth kingdom at all. This total rejection of sorrow would cause Hyuponia to be cut off from the rest of Lunatea, hidden away beneath the Sea of Tears, and the Kingdom of Sorrow's inhabitants would die out or abandon it with one strict exception: the King of Sorrow, who then became the sole bearer of Lunatea's ignored sorrow. King of Sorrow sought to have the people of Lunatea remember sorrow once more, to remember his kingdom and himself, for them to accept sorrow and his kingdom back into the world. But years of being ignored and forgotten, isolated within the ruins of his kingdom, and taking in all the world's pain and sadness, all completely alone, took a toll on King of Sorrow's sanity: engulfing him with hatred for Lunatea and then resorting to destructive methods to bring sorrow back to the world. King of Sorrow's actions would culminate in a confrontation with the Dream Traveler, Klonoa, who would defeat the then-crazed king in battle. But before the King of Sorrow could succumb to his wounds, the sympathetic Klonoa assured him that Lunatea would remember and accept sorrow.
• Although the King of Sorrow was reborn as an infant in a newly harmonious Lunatea, he mysteriously appeared in the Pantheon, within the House of Despondency, one day: exactly the same as he was before death. King of Sorrow was greatly confused as to how and why he manifested within the Pantheon, but fortunately a place was quickly found for the King as Klonoa shortly thereafter ascended into the Pantheon and recognized the King of Sorrow. It was decided then that King of Sorrow would be Klonoa's Herald, which King did not oppose as he remembered Klonoa and how the Dream Traveler allowed Hyuponia to be remembered and accepted by Lunatea; which King of Sorrow is eternally grateful for. But the King would end up feeling "useless" as Klonoa's Herald, not really accomplishing anything nor being able to provide Klonoa as much companionship as Huepow or Lolo. And once Klonoa decided to include Huepow, Lolo, Popka, and Guntz as his Heralds, King of Sorrow felt like he would become a fifth wheel and fell into a depression. Feeling bad for King of Sorrow and not wanting him to feel ignored and forgotten again, Klonoa reached out to the Court of the Gods and asked about ascending King as a deity. To that end, the Court of the Gods examined the King of Sorrow's story, officially named "Lunatea's Veil", and took note of how the event is one big allegory for the repression of sadness: as Lunatea's rejection and forgetting of sorrow lead to the destruction of Hyuponia and its inhabitants, the King of Sorrow losing his sanity into a hateful lump of sorrow, and causing the other kingdoms of Lunatea to become increasingly isolated from one another; with Volk becoming a battleground for a neverending civil war and Mira-Mira rejecting all outsiders, both things that ceased once sorrow was returned to Lunatea. The confrontation with King of Sorrow also made Klonoa come to terms with his bittersweet role as the Dream Traveler. With this, the King of Sorrow was deemed a good representative for the trope "It's Okay to Cry", albeit under the name "Accepting Sadness", which was what King of Sorrow wanted Lunatea to do. Once more, the King of Sorrow is eternally grateful to Klonoa as he was ascended to godhood.
• King of Sorrow's temple is a replica of the Kingdom of Sorrow, with the King residing in a replica of the Terminus of Tears (sans the Bell of Sorrow, as the "kingdom bells" are only significant in Lunatea). A peculiar trait of this Hyuponia copy is that, in addition to its normal background music, deities will hear the music of their most somber or nostalgic moments mixed in, just as Klonoa experienced during his journey through the ruins of the real Hyuponia. And indeed, King of Sorrow's temple often gets visitors as it became a recommended place for deities who seriously need to cry.
  • Even though he could have his temple essentially be the Kingdom of Sorrow before its ruination, King of Sorrow had the temple Hyuponia appear as the kingdom's ruins. When asked about it, King of Sorrow explained that as nice as it would be to essentially live in Hyuponia in its prime, he'd just be pointlessly dwelling in the past, and reflecting on memories is the Kingdom of Indecision's thing, not Sorrow's. King ultimately doesn't care how his temple looks so long he's not alone, not being the sole bearer of everyone's sorrow, and the real Kingdom of Sorrow is faring well, which Lunatea is making sure of with the kingdom's reconstruction and with King of Sorrow's reborn-infant-self poised to become its leader. King also admits that the whole "kingdom ruins" aesthetic, combined with the music, is more appropriate for sorrow and certainly helps with getting the tears flowing for deities who need it.
• Adding to the above decision, King of Sorrow feels that the House of Despondency as a whole is already like the Kingdom of Sorrow before its ruin, with its sad atmosphere but without the wrecked buildings and actually being populated. And since the House of Despondency was the place he arrived to the Pantheon in, King of Sorrow has a strong attachment to the place and its Sub-Houses and considers all but the most malicious and hostile deities in Despondency an ally.
  • Thanks to this strong attachment to the House of Despondency combined with his title, some deities believe King of Sorrow to be, well, king of the House of Despondency. Something which flatters King but he tries to discourage such misconceptions, not wanting to be seen as stepping on the toes of the Melancholia Matrons and the Mediators of Grief. Though King of Sorrow does try to help out the inhabitants of the house, like any good royal should.
• When it came to choosing a Herald, King of Sorrow was initially at a loss as he had been alone for so long. But Lolo (now one of Klonoa's heralds) recommended Leorina, and her sidekick Tat, for King as both were leading the reconstruction for the Kingdom of Sorrow back in Lunatea. Though King of Sorrow had his doubts Leorina would want to see him again after his attempt to consume Lunatea in sorrow but went along with Lolo's suggestion anyway: expecting rejection from the Sky Pirate and Tat. Much to his surprise, Leorina and Tat immediately accepted becoming King's heralds and regard him as a friend, with Tat explaining on both their behalf that they knew King of Sorrow was not in a good mental state at the time. The two also wouldn't pass up the opportunity to experience a place like the Pantheon, with Leorina adding that somebody has to keep King of Sorrow in check. A small smile could be seen on King of Sorrow after their acceptance.
• On account of being isolated in the ruins of his kingdom for so long, King of Sorrow isn't naturally inclined to wander through the Pantheon: residing mainly in his temple and going out as far as the edge of the House of Despondency. Though Leorina, Tat, Klonoa, and his heralds have been convincing King to explore the rest of the Pantheon and got him to check out the House of Emotion and related Sub-Houses. Given the nature of Lunatea, King of Sorrow couldn't help but equate certain Halls in Emotion with the other four kingdoms of Lunatea: viewing Happiness as a better version of Joilant since it's not an "indulgent" amusement park, Anger being most similar to Volk that thankfully hasn't become a warzone (yet), and Calmness being like Mira-Mira with the focus on stoicism. Though King could not find an equivalent to La-Lakoosha, which disappointed him a bit as he has some memories from his reborn-infant-self being cared for by the High Priestess of that kingdom.
  • Having been rejected for representing a "bad emotion", and reminded of the value of other emotions by Klonoa and Leorina during their fight, King of Sorrow gives equal value to all emotions and doesn't malign or reject any of them, even if he harbors preference for sorrow. Though try as he might, King of Sorrow can't help but feel great discomfort when looking at the House of Hatred and Rancor, as the emotion of hatred engulfed him to the point of attempting to destroy his own world. King has been trying to sort out this feeling of his.
• Pitiable as he may look, King of Sorrow is not a deity to be underestimated as he wields the Element of Sorrow, a power so potent that Leorina was painfully transformed into a monster from trying to use it. And on that front, the King of Sorrow is able to transform into a monstrous entity that can conjure Nemo Moos to toss at foes, done within an alternate tunnel-shaped dimension King is able to create. And if that's not enough, King is able to create a force field with two spiked balls and green orbs that rotate around and fire lasers. King of Sorrow also posed a serious threat to Lunatea as a whole with his machinations prior to Klonoa's intervention.
• A detail of King of Sorrow that unnerves some deities is how red his eyes are, coupled with his tiny pupils. While King is silent on the subject, Klonoa and others speculate that his eyes appear that way due to excessive crying from being forgotten, isolated, and bearing everyone's suppressed sorrow for a long time.
• Many deities have noticed King of Sorrow's resemblance to Klonoa's Phantomilian appearance, down to wearing an accessory around his neck that evokes Klonoa's old collar, and speculates that King isn't just an embodiment of sorrow in general but the embodiment of Klonoa's sorrow. Specifically the immense sadness Klonoa experienced when he was pulled out of Phantomile, a world he viewed as his home that he saved from ultimate destruction, only to be cast out and forgotten. Adding to this theory was how the Kingdom of Sorrow, Hyuponia, sounds a little too similar to Huepow, Klonoa's dear friend from Phantomile whom he could never see again (at least before ascending into the Pantheon). King of Sorrow and Klonoa were very intrigued by this speculation and became even closer friends than before. This also prompted King to start visiting the House of Derivatives, feeling a new sense of belonging in there.
• King of Sorrow didn't think he'd make many friends of his own within the Pantheon, on account of his villainous actions in the past and embodying an emotion that people still generally avoid. But to his pleasant surprise, King would be befriended by plenty of deities. Chief among them being Princess Luna of Equestria, who sympathized all too well with being royalty who represents something that people reject, becoming resentful from said rejection, and then attempting to force that something onto the whole world in a destructive manner. Though Luna believes King got it even worse since the rejection of his represented aspect destroyed his whole kingdom and its people, and pledged to help with the rebuilding of Hyuponia in Lunatea; which the dark alicorn can actually be very effective with since Lunatea is a dream world and she has influence over dreams. King of Sorrow is beyond grateful for Princess Luna's support and gets together regularly with her to discuss their kingdom's respective cultures, as well as helping each other atone for their villainous actions in the past.
  • Through Princess Luna, King of Sorrow became acquainted with her sister, Princess Celestia, who reminds him a lot of the High Priestess of La-Lakoosha: being benevolent and wise leaders of tranquil kingdoms. King would end up getting along great with Celestia as she values sadness as an important emotion, stating that without sorrow there can be no love or friendship, which all of Lunatea can attest to.
• Indeed, many of King of Sorrow's allies are tragic, sympathetic villains who had since reformed, and offered their friendship to King of Sorrow to assure him that he is not alone in committing evil out of hate and/or desperation.
  • Agatha Penderghast could relate to being rejected by people for something inherent to her and then being hidden away (or rather, killed and then buried in an isolated area). And while Agatha wasn't forgotten by the people of her town, their memory of her would get distorted in the worst way, and so she became a hate-filled ghost witch who wanted to make everyone suffer until Norman Babcock gave her some much-needed empathy. King of Sorrow was horrified that a girl as young as her was outright killed by the people of her town over an ability as benign as seeing and talking with the dead, and allowed Agatha complete permission to enter his temple to express any lingering sorrow, with himself being alongside her should he be available.
  • While Merlina was not rejected by her world of Camelot, nor did she feel any hatred for it, the girl wizard could relate to becoming desperate to save her kingdom from eventual destruction and resorting to dark, unholy powers to accomplish that, regardless of the harm done to everyone. Merlina also noticed that both she and King of Sorrow summoned a hero to help them with their goal only for said hero to defeat them in a climactic battle: Sonic for Merlina and Klonoa for King. But whereas Merlina wanted to make her world eternal, King of Sorrow became fully willing to destroy Lunatea when it appeared that his kingdom was completely unwelcome by the world. Merlina doesn't hold that against him, though, acknowledging that King of Sorrow's situation would drive anyone to want to destroy their world, much as she doesn't agree with it. Merlina was very glad for King of Sorrow that his kingdom is being rebuilt from ruin and that he himself had changed for the better. King in turn fully sympathizes with Merlina over Camelot's inevitable demise and expressed hope that the kingdom could be rebuilt just as Hyuponia is, offering to lend support to Merlina should that occur.
  • Count Bleck was hesitant at first to even look at King of Sorrow, seeing how King embodies the emotion that engulfed him and fueled his desire to destroy all existence. But Tippi was able to convince her lover to at least try and get to know King of Sorrow before deciding he was to be avoided, and Count Bleck then learned that King of Sorrow is a person not unlike himself; someone who suffered a tremendous tragedy that drove them to bring about great destruction, only to reform upon learning how pointless that destruction was for their goals and now seek to atone. Though King feels Bleck should've at least tried to determine if Timpani was actually killed before deciding to destroy all of existence, but overall sympathizes with the Count over his unfortunate past and is simply glad that he is able to live with his beloved. Count Bleck in turn has offered the support of himself, Tippi, and their heralds in rebuilding the Kingdom of Sorrow.
  • While a hero, Wanda Maximoff AKA Scarlet Witch suffered many tragedies that drove her to immoral actions if not outright villainy: losing the love of her life, her children with him, and her twin brother... King of Sorrow is able to feel the witch's sorrow radiating from her and has given Wanda immense condolences for all the losses she endured. Wanda appreciated King's sympathy and shared her own sympathy for his own tragedy. The Scarlet Witch had since become one of King of Sorrow's more frequent visitors to his temple, in order to express her sadness and tears before they could drive her to more immoral actions.
• Much to King of Sorrow's dismay, there are plenty of tragic and sympathetic deities who remain on the side of evil with little to no chance of redemption. King feels a strong sense of pity and sympathy for such deities but nonetheless had made clear that he will attack them with lethal force if they start to harm people or destroy things.
  • The first of such deities that come to mind for King is the one who shares the same House with him, Malygos. As the leader of a kingdom whose people have died out thanks to the selfish actions of his world, King empathizes all too much with Malygos over the near extinction his Dragonflight experienced thanks to a corrupted friend. However, while the people of Lunatea were genuinely at fault for the destruction of Hyuponia and its people, King was quick to note that the magic users of Azeroth had nothing to do with the decimation of the Blue Dragonflight, and thus Malygos' tragedy-fueled malevolence is much less excusable. Especially as King would learn from Malygos' former associates that the Blue Dragonflight recovered a great deal from their near extinction when Malygos started the "Nexus War", which would only undo a lot of that recovery. Though with all that noted, King of Sorrow still pities Malygos for how poorly his fate turned out and makes an effort as a neighbor to clear the former Aspect of Magic of his madness and be redeemed. Unfortunately, King's attempts have only gotten him ridicule and boastful threats from Malygos, and one encounter forced King of Sorrow to outright fight the giant blue dragon to defend himself. But the Hyuponian ruler holds out hope that Malygos can be reasoned with.
  • The second deity of this nature that King of Sorrow pities is Odio, or more specifically Odio's original persona: Oersted. King feels sympathy for Oersted over getting tricked into killing his king and then branded a demon by mankind for it, pushing him into becoming the embodiment of hatred itself in his world. While their situations are not at all similar, King of Sorrow understands what it's like to be rejected by the world, become engulfed with hatred, and then spread harm and destruction to his world in response. But King was made to realize from Klonoa that hatred and violence are not the answer; that people could be made to remember and accept sorrow. And so King feels that the same can be done for Oersted if he can just let go of his hatred and be the champion of mankind again. But sadly, even if Oersted himself is willing to turn over a new leaf, Odio cannot be easily abandoned nor eliminated and thinks the King of Sorrow to be a naive fool who will be rejected and forgotten by people once more.
• As the embodiment of sorrow in Lunatea, King of Sorrow views Sadness as fellow kin of sorts, seeing that she embodies sorrow for the whole Pantheon. Sadness reciprocates the feelings of kinship with King of Sorrow and was empathetic to him upon learning what he went through; Sadness often being considered a "useless emotion" in many minds, with the former situation of Riley Andersen's Sadness being the most well-known example. Though she didn't approve of King of Sorrow's destructive methods to bring sorrow back to Lunatea, stating how unbecoming of their emotion that was, but Sadness understood that he was desperate and lost complete faith in Lunatea at the time, and the emotion is simply glad that King got the help he needed. King of Sorrow promised Sadness that he'll never stoop to those levels again and will teach people the merits of sadness so she would no longer be considered "useless".
  • On learning that the Sadness of Riley's mind was actively rejected by Riley's Joy, who even went as far as to try and dispose of a sad Core Memory, King of Sorrow confronted Joy on the assumption that she was the same way to Sadness. King was relieved to see that was not the case, with Joy being a good friend to Sadness, and was then informed by her that Riley's Joy completely changed her attitude towards Riley's Sadness and learning firsthand that It's Okay to Cry. Which surprised King a great deal, as the Emotions are much more directly tied to what they embody than even himself and the other Lunateans, yet Joy could shed tears of sorrow. Nonetheless, Joy apologized to King of Sorrow on behalf of Riley's Joy and all other Joys who have suppressed their Sadnesses: explaining that when you embody someone's happiness, and they and others like the happiness, it's hard not to feel important over the other emotions and want that someone to be happy all the time. King of Sorrow understood the explanation and accepted Joy's apology, then as an apology of his own for the confrontation offered to take Joy to Joilant in Lunatea, knowing she'd love the place.
• Given that it led his kingdom to be cut off from Lunatea and fall into ruin, decimating his people until only he remained, having to take in the whole world's sadness, and both his kingdom and himself to be forgotten... King of Sorrow does not tolerate people who suppress and try to forget their sorrows. As per his trope and his promise to Sadness, King makes an effort to teach deities who suppress their sorrow the damage they're ultimately doing to themselves and that there's no shame in crying. But for Good and Neutral aligned deities who are particularly stubborn about ignoring their sadness, King of Sorrow can only view them as lost causes he holds no respect for. And for Evil deities who suppress and forget their sorrow, especially in a manner that harms others, King declared them his enemies whom he won't hesitate to fight should circumstances come to that. True to her word, Leorina keeps special tabs on King of Sorrow regarding such deities, making sure he doesn't relapse to his extreme ways.
  • Of course, King of Sorrow does try to be mindful of individual context and gives special leeway to deities who avoid their sorrow for very valid reasons. Such as Dr. Zalost, who had experienced such extreme sorrow that he was in total misery and set out to spread that to everyone else. Even the King of Sorrow can understand that Zalost would not want to risk relapsing to that behavior and prefer to keep his desperately sought happiness. King of Sorrow also doesn't hold any ire for most stoic deities since they suppress all their emotions, not just sorrow.
• With the above in mind, King is nothing short of appreciative to deities who have learned that It's Okay to Cry, if not already embraced sadness. Chief among them being Yesod and Hiro Hamada, who both experienced intense grief from the death of a loved one but repressed their sadness; which resulted in Yesod becoming obsessed with security and clawing at himself, and Hiro closing himself off from others, regressing back to bad habits, and then trying to kill the man responsible for his brother's death. But ultimately Yesod and Hiro learned to come to terms with their sorrows after a meltdown and Tough Love questioning from Baymax respectively, which vastly improved their mental states and becoming better people overall. King of Sorrow couldn't be more proud and thankful for the two boys.
  • When King of Sorrow first met with Baymax, the healthcare companion was immediately compelled to offer his services to the Hyuponian, his sensors detecting high levels of sadness from him. Hiro, having learned about King of Sorrow's nature beforehand, laughed a bit and assured his robot friend that sadness is inherent to King, being an embodiment of sorrow in his native world, and thus nothing to heal. Nonetheless, Baymax was insistent on providing therapy to King of Sorrow and the Hyuponian admitted that he still has mental scars over the whole "being rejected, forgotten, isolated, and bearing the whole world's sorrow". With that, it was arranged for Baymax and King to get together every week to help him heal from that trauma. Hiro and other members of Big Hero 6 would sometimes join in these sessions and gift King some of Aunt Cass' food, which the Hyuponian finds delicious.
• Being such close friends with Klonoa, King of Sorrow harbors the illest will towards the Dream Traveler's enemies and has sworn to subject them to the worst sort of sorrow should any of them harm Klonoa. The top of King's shitlist in this regard being Joka, for dealing a devastating emotional blow to Klonoa by murdering his grandpa and overall being an active menace to him.
  • For being the reason Joka got into the Pantheon to begin with, and one of Klonoa's more vile enemies in the Pantheon, King of Sorrow declared that he will join any fight against Nightmare and make him suffer as much as the victims of his nightmares. Nightmare scoffed at King of Sorrow's threat, claiming that he lacks the ability to feel any sorrow. This only prompted King of Sorrow to start honing his power to test Nightmare's claim.
• Being an enemy of Klonoa and ally of Joka is enough for King of Sorrow to dislike Saya, but learning of her goal to merge all worlds to create unbridled chaos makes him detest the werefox as it reminds King of his use of chaos to force Lunatea to remember sorrow. The chaos King unleashed caused massive damage to Lunatea, if not threatened to destroy it outright, and he only committed it out of desperation and insanity-induced hatred for Lunatea, which he now feels shame for. That Saya would merge all worlds in order to inflict such a thing unto them, for what can only appear to be for shits and giggles fills the King of Sorrow with great rage.
• The closest King of Sorrow came to relapsing to his villainous behavior was when he first met Stan Smith, having heard about the CIA agent previously learning that crying is a good thing, and to not bottle up his emotions overall, and the Hyuponian wanted to thank the man for his acceptance of sorrow. But Stan ended up responding with complete disbelief that he of all men would ever be okay with crying, much to King's confusion. The CIA agent then immediately followed that up with a tangent about how sorrow is something to be buried and forgotten like all other "useless emotions", wishing that sadness as a concept never existed. Needless to say, King of Sorrow felt tricked in the worst way and was so angered by Stan's words about sorrow he became determined to kill the man until Leorina, Tat, Klonoa, his Heralds, and a few nearby deities intervened. King of Sorrow was then informed that Stan always forgets whatever lesson he learned previously, as per his assigned trope, and hence would not have remembered that time he learned the necessity of crying. King calmed down from his rage and came to pity the CIA agent for being incapable of improving as a person. Though his dislike for Stan heavily outweighs the pity and King of Sorrow won't forgive the man for what he said about sorrow, especially since Stan is unapologetic about it.
• Sonic and Tails did a Double Take on first seeing King of Sorrow as he strongly resembles Kitsunami "Kit" the Fennec from their IDW universe, and thought at that moment the blue fox had ascended without Surge somehow. King of Sorrow also initially thought Tails to be related to Klonoa on account of their similar faces. After clearing up this confusion and getting to properly know each other, Sonic and Tails offered their friendship to King of Sorrow, feeling sympathy for his lonely past and deciding he could use more friends. King accepted their offer, of course, and the hedgehog and fox make an effort to have King of Sorrow come along with them in any adventures across the Pantheon so he'd not just stand in his temple all the time.
  • Upon learning that "tears" are among Sonic's dislikes, King of Sorrow became apprehensive with the hedgehog under the assumption that he rejects sorrow. Thankfully, before this could damage their friendship, Sonic explained that he has no issue with sadness or crying, bringing up how he even wished for a mountain of handkerchiefs for his sad genie friend, Shahra, so she could cry as much as she needed. Sonic then clarified that his dislike of tears isn't for the tears themselves but rather the reason for the tears; someone being subjected to pain or otherwise suffering injustice, which the hedgehog cannot stand. King apologized for his misunderstanding and agreed wholeheartedly with Sonic's viewpoint.
• King of Sorrow took up an interest in baseball after Klonoa invited him to a game in the House of Sports one day. Deities who observed King out on the field found him to be adorable in his baseball outfit◊, even with the unsettling red eyes. King can only respond to such comments with a bashful blush.
• "Why... Why do you... Hate sorrow? Can't you... Can't you accept sorrow at all...? Is there no place for me, in this world?!"

Joka, God of Circus Synths (Joker)

^{Beast Joka} 

• Potential House: Musical Genres
• Lesser God; Greater God as Beast Joka
• Symbol: His Face
• Theme Song: Joker Mood. Facade & Blade in combat. Joker's Move and No Jokes Around when he gets serious.
• Alignment: Chaotic Evil
• Portfolio: Villainous Harlequin / Monster Clown, Clown associated with electronic music, Professional Buttkisser, The Dragon, Clowns that can do magic, Comical Lackey to Vile Villains, Giggling Villain, Weak and comical villain who becomes a serious threat, Floating Limbs, More Teeth than the Osmond Family, Klonoa's most personal and recurring enemy despite never being the main villain, Killed Klonoa's grandpa
• Domains: Electronic Music, Clowns, Harlequins, Nightmares, Lackeys
• Heralds: Garlen and Janga
• High Priest: Doopliss
• Followers: Camime, Motley Bossblob, Jackle, and Pompy
• Allies: Nightmare, Dimentio, Wizeman, Saya, Clown/The Violator, Kefka Palazzo, Joker (Pretty Cure), Marx, Vex (LittleBigPlanet), Every villain deity involved in Namco × Capcom, Dr. Eggman, Katz, Ridley, Scar, Lord Shen, Voldemort, Sabor, Evil eclipse deities
• Arch-Enemy: Klonoa
• Enemies: King of Sorrow, NiGHTS, Ysera, Kirby, Reiji Arisu and Xiaomu, Every other heroic deity involved in Namco × Capcom, Count Bleck, Simba, Mufasa, Rayman, Ronald McDonald
• One-Sided Relationship: Frollo (Joka likes Frollo, Frollo doesn't like Joka)
• Pities: Harley Quinn
• Wary of: The Joker
• Fears: The Batman Who Laughs
• Banned from: The House of Commerce
• A nightmare creature from the dream world of Phantomile, Joka was the loyal lackey of Ghadius, the King of Darkness who wanted to destroy Phantomile for rejecting nightmares in favor of good dreams. When Klonoa and Huepow began meddling in Ghadius' scheme, Joka was tasked with eliminating the two children but found himself constantly getting thwarted by the boys. When Joka's failures earned him Ghadius' disappointment, the nightmare clown stopped fooling around and became a serious threat to Klonoa and Huepow, starting with killing Klonoa's grandfather to steal the Moon Pendant for Ghadius and then fighting the two himself in a climactic battle that would end in Joka's demise. At least in Phantomile, as the clown would appear alive and well in other dream worlds and continue to menace Klonoa one way or another. And now Joka has made it into the Pantheon, eager to cause more trouble for the Dream Traveler and his allies.
• Joka was ascended into the Pantheon by Nightmare, who wanted to spite Klonoa after the Dream Traveler fought him one too many times. While summoning Joka to the Pantheon was a trivial matter for Nightmare, he had to figure out a trope for the clown to become a deity and be kept within the Pantheon. But then Ghadius, currently serving Nightmare as his High Priest, recalled how Joka was always accompanied by this "strange music" that Nightmare identified as electronic music. Nightmare then realized that, as a clown heavily associated with electronic music, Joka was the perfect fit for the then-unoccupied trope of Circus Synths and immediately claimed the trope for the clown fiend. Joka was extremely grateful to Nightmare for ascending him into the Pantheon and swore his utmost loyalty to the Emporer of Darkness.
  • Indeed, the very first thing Nightmare noticed about Joka (besides the techno music that accompanied him) is how obsequious the clown is, thinking he ought to be the God of Brown-Nosers instead. Ghadius always figured that Joka just recognizes greater power when he sees it and knows to be obedient to it. Joka doesn't confirm or deny Ghadius' theory, nor the theories of other deities, and simply states that his loyalty is completely sincere and he'll happily serve any evildoer in need of a lackey.
    • Of course, as loyal as he is to Nightmare and other villains within the Pantheon, Joka is only truly devoted to Ghadius and is secretly working to get his beloved master ascended. The King of Darkness is thoroughly pleased with his lackey's efforts and patiently waits to be granted godhood.
• Joka confounds many a deity when it comes to his competence as for the most part Joka is an utter buffoon who's more an annoyance than a threat, not unlike Jesse, James, and Meowth of Team Rocket; doing utterly baffling things like shouting out the weakness of the monsters he sends at Klonoa. But after suffering enough defeats, especially if they land him in hot water with his superior, Joka will stop fooling around and become a genuine threat: personally spreading plagues, attacking with lethal force, and becoming shockingly cunning. Some deities had come to believe that Joka's foolish incompetence is just a facade to lower the guard of his enemies, though Joka's response to that speculation suggests otherwise.
  • Deities are especially warned to avoid Joka at night or during an eclipse, as the clown fiend is able to draw power from the darkness to transform into a monstrous form aptly named "Beast Joka", which makes him a great deal stronger and faster as well as highly durable. Those who encounter Joka in his beast form are advised to avoid his attacks and wait out the night or force the daylight if it can be helped, forcing Joka back into his much weaker default form. Because of this, Joka maintains a tight alliance with evil deities associated with the night and vows to destroy all deities of the day.
    • From the "Klonoa Heroes universe", Joka had conjured a clone of himself that has a transformation of its own, "Flower Joka". Ironically, this plant-like form attacks primarily by shooting fireballs.
• Once offered the choice, Joka was initially going to choose the monsters he summoned to fight Klonoa and Huepow: Rongo Longo, Gelg Bolm, and Baladium, as his Heralds. But then Joka recalled the allies of his "Heroes incarnation", Janga and Garlen, and decided to have them as his Heralds instead, as they're a great deal more competent than those pathetic monsters while also having actual personalities. Neither of the two are happy to be the "second-in-command" to Joka, who prides himself on being the most loyal lackey (and indeed served as their lackey in their home universe), but Janga and Garlen are thankful to be given a second chance at life in the Pantheon and are eager to cause trouble alongside Joka.
  • Because of the many similarities between him and Garlen, Joka struck up an alliance with Dr. Eggman: offering to assist Eggman in his plans and attempt to eliminate the doctor's many enemies. Eggman is a tad wary of Joka, thinking that nobody could be that obsequious, but did accept Joka's offer and lent the harlequin his own custom Egg Mobile, which Eggman was surprised to learn Joka is experienced with piloting as it resembles a flying machine he used back in Phantomile. Garlen and Eggman also tend to work together, sharing technology and insight, though their egos frequently clash, with Eggman most often proving himself the better to Garlen.
  • Similarly, Joka allied with Katz under the presumption that he and Janga would get along. Which proved correct as Katz and Janga admire each other's cruelty and methods of killing, with Katz becoming inspired to create his own poison-laced Wolverine Claws. Janga also relates with Katz's hatred for dogs, being the Arch-Enemy to the canid Guntz who is currently one of Klonoa's Heralds. The two evil cats frequently get together to devise schemes to eliminate their foes, which Joka will be more than happy to get involved in.
• Joka also greatly admires Wizeman, being the creator of nightmares in his world who resembles Ghadius a good deal. He also thinks Wizeman has great taste in minions, what with them being nightmare clowns just like Joka himself.
• Joka and Janga were just scouting around the Pantheon for some havoc when they spotted Saya, whom they recognized from the time they worked with her and greeted the villainous werefox like an old friend. Saya was surprised to see Joka and Janga again, having not even heard from them since that first world-merging attempt, but was nonetheless happy to see old allies whom she can count on to help her out; recalling what great help the clown and cat were. Since then, whenever Saya needs something accomplished for a plan, Joka and Janga are sure to get involved.
  • Reiji and Xiaomu were not pleased in the least of Joka and Janga's renewed alliance with Saya, remembering what a pain the clown fiend in particular was, and both as well as every other heroic deity involved in that first world-merge event were quick to relearn their strategies to combat Joka and Janga so as to not get caught off guard by those two again. Seeing this coming, Joka was quick to get reacquainted with his villainous cohorts from that whole shindig and learn from them whatever new moves and strategies those heroes came up with while he was absent.
• Joka was ecstatic with how many other evil clowns and harlequins there were in the Pantheon and was quick to ally with as many as he could find. Of them all, Joka gets along the best with Dimentio (whom he was a Follower to) and is one of the few sincere allies for the Master of Dimensions; having absolutely no issue with Dimentio's psychopathy and grand plan. Dimentio is nothing short of delighted by Joka's complete loyalty and considers him a reliable ally to call on for his endeavors. And just to sweeten the deal and make Joka even more effective, Dimentio has been teaching Joka some of his magic. Joka also became one of very few clowns to be considered an ally to The Violator, also known as Clown, since he's a nightmare creature rather than a human (nightmares essentially being the demons of dreams) and the two having quite a bit in common: being the loyal lackeys to powerful evil entities who started off as complete jokes only to become much more dangerous over time, and would end up the most enduring enemy to their universe's respective heroes.
  • Much to Joka's surprise, while he was seeking out clown allies, he would be approached for an alliance by Kefka Palazzo and Joker of the Pretty Cure universe, who refers to himself as "Agent of Bad End". The two mad clowns of magic had looked into Joka's background the moment they heard of his ascension and found him to be a very promising partner, what with his willingness to work with would-be world destroyers and being a devoted lackey without any ulterior motives. And indeed, Joka was more than happy to partner with Kefka and Agent of Bad End; viewing Kefka as similar to Ghadius but much more colorful and humorous, and relating with Agent on being depraved second-in-commands to a world-destroying evil only to step up as the most frequent menace to their universe's heroes. The Pantheon shudders at what these three psychotic magic clowns will do...
  • It didn't take long at all for Joka to find the Joker of the DC universe, given his infamy. And for once, Joka found himself being hesitant to ally with that mad clown as the Joker is just too unpredictable for him to consider worth working for. Joka was also quick to learn from other deities that the Joker is generally a terrible deity to work for, with Harley Quinn's tenure under the Clown Prince of Crime being commonly cited. Joka felt pity for Harley as he could see that she is an incredibly competent underling who was more than devoted to the Joker, yet gets treated like shit by him most of the time. Joka would've reached out to Harley Quinn for a partnership to make up for her abuse, but Harley has a tendency to act as a "hero" whenever she's not working with the Joker, and Joka has absolutely no interest in hero work. Joker for his part does not appreciate there being yet another "Joker" in the Pantheon, stating that replacing the "er" with an "a" is a pathetic attempt to be unique, and finds Joka's competency too inconsistent to tolerate.
    • While Joka is merely wary of the Joker, he's outright terrified by the Batman Who Laughs, who has all of the Joker's worst qualities but maximized by a lot. Joka will only really work with He Who Laughs if it's in a team-up with Kefka and the Agent of Bad End, since those two managed to befriend He Who Laughs, but otherwise Joka stays the hell away from him even in his beast form.
  • Joka soon found two other nightmare harlequins from dream worlds in Vex and Marx, whom he unsurprisingly became good friends with. Joka is particularly impressed by Vex and Marx's cunning, both tricking Sackboy and Kirby respectively into accomplishing their goals for them, and the nightmare jester was disappointed for them when their well-earned victories were snatched at the last second by those heroes. Ever the loyal help for all villainy, Joka had promised to help the two fellow nightmare harlequins win for good, which Vex and Marx greatly appreciated.
• Upon learning of him, Joka became allies with Ridley: relating with the space dragon on being second-in-commands who became the most recurring and personal enemy to the hero of their respective worlds, as well as frequently coming back from death. Ridley finds Joka too silly looking for his liking but respects the jester's dedication to evil and remorseless killing of Klonoa's grandpa.
• With Joka's most famous act of evil being his killing of Klonoa's grandpa, he has gained the favor of deities who are also famed for killing the family members of heroes: Scar, Sabor, Lord Shen, and Voldemort being just the first of such deities to praise the clown fiend for the cold-blooded murder. Likewise, Joka has earned the enmity of heroic deities whose family were killed by villains and deities who were the slain family, such as the case of Mufasa for the latter. Both he and Simba have threatened to maul Joka should he make any attempts on any other innocent family members.
  • In response to deities who despise Joka for slaying Klonoa's kin, the nightmare clown pointed out to them with the most shit-eating grin that Klonoa and "Grandpa" weren't even related to each other, the old man merely posing as the Dream Traveler's granddad as part of Huepow's masquerade. Joka would even feel that his offing of the geezer would be just punishment for that deception if it didn't imply he did something morally "good". But of course, deities have pointed out in turn that regardless of the true nature of Grandpa's relation to Klonoa, the two loved each other like family, and Joka certainly didn't know that truth when he committed that deed.
    • Joka took an interest in Judge Claude Frollo when he heard about the man being responsible for killing Quasimodo's mother, and then attempting to drown the infant hunchback right after, which the clown fiend was impressed by. Though Frollo wants nothing to do with Joka as he does not associate with monsters, much less one that dresses like the leader of the Romani he so despises. Too bad for him, Joka won't take "no" for an answer and has taken to hanging out with Frollo, both as a "friend" and to harass him.
• As Klonoa is his greatest enemy, Joka considers all of Klonoa's allies his enemies as well and has sworn to destroy them all. Among Klonoa's friends, Joka harbors the most animosity for King of Sorrow and NiGHTS; the former being a pitiful-looking contrast to his beloved Ghadius who had his goals granted by Klonoa despite threatening his world's destruction just like Ghadius, not to mention resembling Klonoa a great deal. And for the latter, Joka views NiGHTS as a traitor to nightmare kind, having been created to spread nightmares but rebelled to protect children from nightmares, and doing so while maintaining his jester appearance.
• Being one of the few sincere allies to Dimentio is enough to get Joka on Count Bleck's bad side, but the fact that Joka loyally served Ghadius to destroy Phantomile and its people has made Bleck determined to take Joka down once and for all. Joka is unfazed by Bleck's threats, however, and loves to ridicule the Count for having attempted to erase all of existence just cause his girlfriend died. While acknowledging Ghadius' own Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum as petty, the clown fiend reasoned that at least it was limited to Phantomile, and being rejected for being a nightmare and sealed away for three thousand years is a lot more understandable than losing a lover.
• Joka found himself in Rayman's list of enemies when the Limbless Wonder came up to the clown fiend, having heard about the latest deity having floating limbs just like himself and wanting to befriend him, only to find said deity to be a nightmare monster committed to all sorts of evil. Joka was delighted by Rayman's thoroughly disappointed face when they first met and loves to taunt Rayman by mimicking his iconic punching moves with his own floating, gloved hands.
• Being yet another evil clown in the Pantheon, and a nightmare creature at that, Ronald McDonald immediately declared Joka an enemy who is giving clowns a bad name. Joka can only laugh in ridicule at the fast-food mascot, proclaiming that Ronald's desire to restore the good reputation of clowns is in vain and that he has done far more harm than even the worst of evil clowns by getting many children hooked on deep-fried garbage that would cause health problems all over his world.
• Joka got himself permanently banned from the House of Commerce and all stores in the Pantheon when he used his magic to increase the size of his money tenfold, literally turning his bills of cash giant, thinking that they'll be accepted within the Pantheon unlike the "Beach Volleyball world". They were not, as even the deities who knew they weren't counterfeit didn't approve of the oversized bills and kicked Joka out of their establishments. The nightmare clown declared that he would make the House of Commerce and all businesses within the Pantheon pay for this humiliation.

Edited by KaoticKanine on Sep 9th 2022 at 12:18:54 PM

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