A little update on these four so far. I still need some potential enemies for all four of them. Maybe Palpatine?

Plus, I need some specific relationships and/or interactions for Rokurōta.

General Rokurōta Makabe, Princess Yuki, Tahei and Matashichi, Deified Representatives of MacGuffin Escort Missions

• House: Narrative Objects
• Demideities
• Symbol: The Akizuki crescent
• Theme Song: “The Hidden Fortress - Main Theme”
• Alignment: Lawful Good (Rokurōta), Chaotic Good (Princess Yuki), Chaotic Neutral (Tahei and Matashichi)
• Portfolio: Live-Action Escort Mission
  • Rokurōta: The Hero, Samurai
  • Princess Yuki: Large Ham with No Indoor Voice, Princess Incognito, Rebellious and Tomboy Princess
  • Tahei and Matashichi: Action Survivors, Dirty Cowards, Supporting Protagonists who were the initial focus, Vitriolic Best Buds
• Domains: Escort, Adventure, Samurai
• Allies: Sanjuro, the Seven Samurai, Ashitaka, Nathan Algren, Therion of the Eight Travellers, Princess Leia Organa
• Enemies:
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: C-3PO and R2-D2 (Tahei and Matashichi)
• Headbutting Heroes with: San (Princess Yuki)
• In feudal Japan, two greedy peasants, Tahei and Matashichi, were returning home from a failed attempt to profit from a war between neighboring clans. En route, they cross paths with the remnants of the defeated Akizuki tribe that notably consists of General Rokurōta Makabe and Princess Yuki, who needed to escape into allied territory with their large supply of gold to rebuild their shattered clan (although the two peasants were unaware of their status when they first encounter them). To do this the Peasants are tricked into helping them, with the promise that they will receive a large share of the gold when the destination is reached. Along the way, the General's prowess is put to the test as he must guide the four, and later five with the inclusion of a freed slave, through close encounters with the pursuing enemy, and out of difficult situations the bumbling peasants manage to get them into. In the end, the two peasants were rewarded with one piece of ryō while the rest of the gold would be used for Yuki’s territory.
• A while after those events occurred, Tahei and Matashichi were still wandering down the road, though still with the piece of gold, when they came across a ronin named Sanjuro, who was walkin the opposite path. The two peasants were initially confused, thinking that the ronin was Rokurōta, asking why he is here for them. The ronin doesn’t care for their questions, dragging them with him. When they reached their destination, which is the Pantheon’s Main House, they ended up seeing Rokurōta and Yuki, who were also brought into the House. It turns out that they were brought because of their escort mission back in their world.
• Of course, Sanjuro wouldn’t be the only samurai that the four would encounter in the Pantheon as he introduced them to a few others. For the most part, they are on good terms with the Seven Samurai, respecting their decision to defend a peasant village from a group of bandits, although Kambei sometimes gets annoyed by the two peasants. Nathan Algren was also respectful of the princess and the peasant duo (more on that later)
• Princess Yuki was interested in befriending San as she does admire San enjoying a lot of freedom for a girl living in her time, what with her being raised by wolves. However, San does not share this interest as she hates humans, let alone those of the noble class if her experience with such people back in her home world suggests anything, though at the very least she would come to admire Yuki’s bravery. That admiration was shared by Ashitaka, whom Yuki would be on better terms with, especially taking note of the prince’s combat skills and his ability to help end a conflict between two warring sides.
• One of several deities whom Tahei and Matashichi actually got along with is Therion, who had a similar situation as he was tasked in retrieving the remaining Dragonstones in exchange for the removal of the Fool’s Bangle. At times, the two peasants would even partner with the thief whenever they’re not with their respective groups.
• Given that their film ended up serving as one of the inspirations for a certain story from a galaxy far, far away, it would be a matter of time before the four would meet up with several deities from the Star Wars universe. In particular, Yuki seems to get along well with Leia Organa given their Rebellious Princess attitude as well as both of them having their respective home territories destroyed. Meanwhile, the two peasants were surprised with a few similarities between them and C-3PO and R2-D2. At best, Tahei, Matashichi, C-3PO, and R2 would tolerate each other out of necessity, but 3PO finds himself easily offended by their crude attitude, notably with several times the two peasants have tried to dismantle the robots to get at the metal inside, only to get caught and scolded by the others.

Maybe an interaction with Heishiro Mitsurugi a Rōnin who above all else, desires a good fight at the end of the day. That said, I don't really know about the film that well, so really, it depends on how they would perceive Mitsurugi. He's not too bad of a guy though.

Alright, I doofed really bad and ended up making an actual page for the Hall of Disabilities. Though it also didn't take long for me to create a Hall. Didn't send the Pantheon Page to the cutlist because that page's creation was inevitable anyway + whatever's not in the Pantheon page yet will be transferred there regardless.

Anyway, is this good to go?

Sure go nuts

Go ahead

Is the Fraternity ready for the pantheon?

The Fraternity, Unholy Organization Of Villain-Dominated Worlds

• Votes: 1(Sailor Venus 372)
• Houses: Locations (House of Locations and Settings), Villainous Success and Failure (House of Villains)
• Greater-deity level organization
• Alignment: Lawful Evil for the organization as a whole; its members and leadership can be of any evil alignment
• Portfolio
  • The group: Villain World, Crapsack World Because The Villains Won And Altered Reality So The Superheroes Don't Exist, Fiction as Cover-Up, Pragmatic Villainy, Legion of Doom, Above Any Law But Infighting
  • Current leader, Wesley Gibson: Emasculated Cuckold, Bastard Bastard Who Inherited His Father's Skill At Killing, Felt Being A Supervillain Was A Better Life Choice, Villain Protagonist, From Nobody to Nightmare, Deconstruction of The Hero's Journey through Growing Into A Better Villain, Far Less Reprehensible In The Movie (not that it has much to do with the comic)
  • Current members of the Council of Five: Evil Genius, Affably Evil, Smothered By Shit...Though He Had It Coming, Beware the Nice Ones (The Professor/Solomon Seltzer^note deceseased), Really 700 Years Old, Outliving One's Offspring (Adam One), Yellow Peril (The Emperor)
  • Former members of the Council of Five: Practically Joker, Stupid Evil And Damn Proud Of It, Resents Being Given Rulership Of Australia, Facial Horror (Mr Rictus), Nazis, There To Show Mr Rictus' Group Is Worse (The Future)
• Domains: Villains, Victory, Domination, Conspiracies, Secret Groups
• Interested in: Bizarro (The Professor)
• Allies: The Grand United Alliance of Evil (the organization, though its members vary), The Godhand and the Idea of Evil , Nemesis (Icon Comics), Prime Minister Honest, the Roarks, Diavolo, The Slavers, Molag Bal, Dr Albert W Wily, Nightmare Moon, Queen Chrysalis, Lord Tirek, Ganondorf, Sheev Palpatine
  • Specific allies of the Council of Five: Patrick Bateman (Wesley) Lex Luthor (The Professor), Vandal Savage (Adam One)
• On good terms with: King Piccolo, Big Brother
• Headbutting Villains with: Hal Stewart (Wesley), Dr Eggman, Shredder (as a group)
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: Melkor, Angra Mainyu, The Brave Companions, Johann Schmidt/the Red Skull
• Rivals: The Crime Syndicate of America, Aku, HIM, Junko Enoshima, En Sabah Nur/Apocalypse, King Sombra, Dimentio
• Enemies: The Grand United Alliance of Good, superheroes of the DC and Marvel multiverses (though they would prefer an armistice), Ahura Mazda, the House of Heroism in general, non-corrupt members of the House of Justice (especially the Officers), Fused Zamasu, Felonius Gru, Aztar/the Spectre, Night Raid, Frank Castle and Misa Amane (especially Wesley), Superman Substitutes (mainly The Professor), Light Yagami, John Doe, Bucciarati's Gang, the Grand United Alliance of Destruction, The Anti-Monitor, The Boys, Discord
  • Specific to Wesley: Victims of rape like Red Sonja, Guts and Casca, those protective of women like Diana of Themiscyra, Lauren Freed and Tenko Chabashira, Selina Kyle
• Opposes: The Joker, Stupid Evil deities
• Opposed by: Crow (Nefarious)
• Fears: The Living Tribunal, Nemesis (Classical Mythology)
• The setting of the Wanted comic book was once like many superhero comics. But on 1986, the supervillains teamed up together and finally achieved dominance. But destroying all the superheroes of the world was not enough; they altered reality so that no-one would remember superheroes or supervillains existed outside of comic books, while the latter secretly ruled the world. To be a member of the Fraternity is to be a cold-blooded supervillain above the law, capable of killing police officers and assaulting celebrities with no repercussion. And to be a member of the Fraternity is to be free of punishment unless you anger another supervillain.
• The Fraternity's ascension was because of Melkor and Angra Mainyu wanting to show off a universe where evil has won and continues to win, however they consider their ascension to be negative; the reason the Fraternity doesn't rule openly is because otherwise all the superheroes in the multiverse would be on their asses. However the GUAG flat out doesn't care that they limit themselves to one reality and believe whatever the universe, the power systems of evil must be dismantled. The Council of Five was forced to invest in the help of Melkor and other evil entities to maintain their status quo, and in return their world will serve as an asylum for the GUAE. This arrangement has become more agreeable as some of the saner members of the GUAE are fine towing the rules the Fraternity has.
• Ahura Mazda regards the existence of the Fraternity to be an affront to all that is good, and plans to prove to them that the Karma Houdini trope, in his own words, "does not exist so long as I draw breath". Resisting the God of Good has further put the Fraternity under Melkor and Angra Mainyu's debt; enough that some have speculated Melkor had saw that this would happen and ascended them because he knew he could exploit it. Others don't think they were clever enough to put that idea together but instead of thinking it was a fortunate coincidence for the gods of evil claim it was a tactic orchestrated by King Piccolo; his may be a more Anarcho-Tyranny fashion of evil ruling, but he was still jubilant at the Fraternity and their Villain World ascending.
• Among the heroic and anti-heroic deities looking to "clean house" are Felonius Gru and the Boys. The latter are absolutely justified in hating the supes of the Fraternity. The former is part of the Anti-Villain League, and even when he was a bad guy he was never comparable to the Fraternity's depravity. Among the villainous deities wanting to eradicate the Fraternity are Light Yagami, Misa Amane, John Doe, and Zamasu. Misa holds a special repulsion for Wesley as he once raped a celebrity and got away with it, while Light and John see the Fraternity in reality close to how corrupt they see the world in their own minds. Zamasu wishes to exterminate a world that would allow evil to prosper, though of course that includes the human population as he considers them little better than the Fraternity. While everybody could point out Zamasu's hypocrisy at this point, nobody would mourn him destroying the Fraternity.
• The asylum the Fraternity gives to supervillains, so long as they aren't too reckless, has been a boon to Roarks Senior and Junior. They feel a lot more safe in their world than in the Trope Pantheon as a whole, though they would prefer it if their home city would ascend one day. Diavolo found it a good place to be a recluse, which caught the attention of Bucciarati's gang. As they use organized crime to help people, the gang was appalled by the Fraternity basically being a global organized crime unit so its members can do whatever cruelties they want without repercussion. Finally for villains seeking asylum there were the Slavers, who were promised with the backing of the Fraternity they can continue their sex trafficking ring without consequences.
• The Fraternity is currently being led by Eminen-looking Wesley Gibson. He's the son of the Killer, one of the greatest supervillains to live. He was set up to inherit his job and managed to work his way up to the top. He used to be a total loser who's girlfriend was cheating on him, and while he thinks of himself as a badass he's really just a smug prick who thinks he can do what he wants as a supervillain. He's similar to Hal Stewart except smarter and(in some ways) tougher. While they are able to work together for their own goals, and have similar self-entitlement issues, Hal thinks some of the stuff he's done is fucked up. Given Wesley raped a celebrity and got away with it, and killed a nice old man just for being somewhat annoying, Hal is justified in questioning him.
• Naturally Wesley is hated by rape victims like Casca and protectors of women, many of whom could kick his ass and point out how much of a degenerate little prick he is. He's smart enough to not stay away from him and ignore their goading by saying he's a coward on top of things. Besides them Wesley is also on Catwoman's shitlist. He hit on her as his love/lust interest the Fox is similar to her, though a full villain rather than an Anti-Hero. Selina knows what he's done, finds him repulsive for other reasons as well, and hopes to never meet the Fox. And then she decided to get under his skin
  Selina Kyle: "You bemoaned your ex-girlfriend blatantly cheating on you, but after having met you it's obvious why she did so".
• Wesley is extremely talented in markmanship, being able to shoot the flies off wings. Sometimes you can find him in the firing range portion of the Hall of Firearms along with other villains. Some snarkier villains asked "I'm surprised you didn't get live target practice", causing him to reply "just because I'm a supervillain doesn't mean I have to be evil 100% of the time". Soon afterwards he had to quickly dodge out of the way of Frank Castle, who while a killer regards him as criminal scum. The shoot-out that ensued led him to crash into Patrick Bateman's department. After they got off the Punisher's tail the two bonded in their similarities; psychotic, venal asshats who think their status lets them do whatever they want while simultaneously bemoaning any slights. The Punisher merely responded to this newfound friendship with "those slights should be bullets".
• The picture of the Council of Five, the Fraternity's ruling group, is out of date but it's the only picture they currently have. Each member rules over a continent. The Professor ruled over both American continents, and for an implied pederast who engineered the superhero genocide he's a surprisingly friendly fellow. He seems to be the Lex Luthor of the group, and had his own Bizarro equivalent; he's interested in the original. He and Lex Luthor sometimes work together. Other still-aligned members of the Council are Adam One, a Vandal Savage-type immortal supervillain who rules Africa, and The Emperor, a Chinese supervillain who rules Asia.
• Though heroes in general hate the Fraternity, the DC and Marvel superheroes hold a particular loathing for it as many of their members remind them of their own supervillains. The fact that the DC and Marvel multiverses existed came as a shock to the Fraternity, as they could swear they were instead based off the real superheroes that used to exist for them. Some of the more bored members of the Fraternity snuck over to their universes for combat, but this has been heavily discouraged as their ascension into the pantheon has put a lot of pressure into maintaining their Karma Houdini status.
• Prime Minister Honest considers the world of the Fraternity to be his personal utopia, where he can bask in the inherent corruption forever. And it's for that very same reason Night Raid wishes to exterminate the villains. The Spectre's reaction to a world of karma houdinis was far more hostile; he lost his shit completely and not only inflicted Cruel and Unusual Death on the villains, but completely destroyed the world they live in as he saw it as completely corrupt. The Presence had to yank the Spectre away for punishment of been blinded in the red mist, and push the Reset Button. However every villain remembers the rampage upon their resurrection and have been deeply shaken. Melkor made sure to capitalize on it by him and Angra Mainyu working to prevent something like that from happening again.
• The Godhand support the Fraternity and their status quo as it follows the "do as thou wilt" and spreading evil/despair that they and the Idea of Evil enjoy. Molag Bal supports them as well since he admires their domination of their world and general cruelty. Unlike Melkor or Angra Mainyu the Fraternity doesn't mind the Daedra since he is good help against the likes of Nemesis; they're terrified of her shutting their organization down given she always makes it her duty to ensure there is no such thing as a Karma Houdini.
• The organization doesn't really have standards, which some villainous deities in the pantheon disagree with. Crow, for instance, is all about villainous victories but he considers the Fraternity's cruelties "not worth it". However they are about practicality. They refuse to let the Joker join as he reminds them of the disgraced Council of Five member Mr Rictus, who wanted to rule openly and didn't give a damn about this getting the attention of heroes across the multiverse. Basically if you're Stupid Evil, they don't want you. They tolerate the antics of the Brave Companions to an extent, but only because they can easily be blamed as a scapegoat and are willing to tow the line if they get their requisite fill of brutality.
• They are somewhat hesitant working with Nazis, mainly for how The Future defected with Mr Rictus because he was tired of waiting to establish a second Holocaust. The Red Skull considers many of them degenerate unternmensch, however he tolerates working with them because he needs the help to establish his Nazi empire within his own universe; they have less standards than most Marvel supervillains so the Skull takes the help he can get. Schwarze Sonne would rather take over the Fraternity's world, but they would also accept "merely" ruling their moon.
• Some have noticed that the year of their takeover, 1986, was when the last issues of Crisis on Infinite Earths, and wonder if there's any correlation. They refuse to bring it up, and like just about everyone dread the idea of facing the Anti-Monitor. The Fraternity are also opponents of the GUAD; they may be nihilistic super-villains, but they prefer being alive and see no profit in being an Omnicidal Maniac. In attempt to defend themselves from the GUAD and encourage the GUAG to get off their back, they've reluctantly aided them in fighting against the GUAD and given some technology to help them...but only against the GUAD. None of the Council of Five were all that happy about it.
• It's been rumored the Fraternity was in fact the organization that was funding Nemesis' thrill seeking as a supervillain. Given the extremes he went to, including kidnapping the president, if they were funding him it was probably at the behest of Mr Rictus. There's also the fact they share an author. Nemesis isn't in the mood to reveal anything about himself, but he was happy to be an official member of the Fraternity.
• The Crime Syndicate was rather impressed by the Fraternity's iron-clad rule over their world, especially since unlike their Mirror Universe the deck was initially stacked against them. They're still going to try and take it over though, as they would really love to pull whatever trick allowed the Fraternity's Cosmic Retcon of the heroes to get rid of the Justice League of America. Aku meanwhile feels their world run by evil is "boring", preferring that they run it as an Anarcho-Tyranny like himself. They refuse as that would end up biting them in the ass, and rightfully believe Aku just wants to take them over. Aku's response was "not if you play your cards right!" As the future that is Aku was undone in part because of Aku's needless dickery (ie: wasting his time figuring how to execute him and awakening Ashi's powers by controlling her, including time travel) the Fraternity have a point.
• Junko Enoshima has also called the Fraternity boring, and so has HIM. HIM actually succeeded in conquering the world in a Bad Future and was an openly cruel tyrant, however the Fraternity retorted that this was because his main obstacles were gone; they still have to worry about getting attention from superheroes from other universes. They have also made it clear to Junko they want a sustainable despotism; they spread despair through making the world cynical and accepting of the status quo they covertly established, not through fetishizing it^note though they aren't kinkshaming her on a global scale. Big Brother approved of this as a more sustainable method of tyranny, but wishes the Fraternity could focus more on enforcing despair.
• Unlike most who think their world was "boring", Apocalypse actually has a reason beyond sadism; it doesn't promote strength and allows them to grow weak. The Fraternity simply responded with "we don't care". Dimentio considers their world boring less because he's a psycho (though he's also that), but doesn't think it fits his idea of "a perfect world". No-one's sure what this would be besides a general To Create a Playground for Evil, and while the Fraternity have their own take on the trope the fact he was willing to destroy everything if he couldn't live to rule everything makes him too unstable to be a potential partner. Dimentio thinks they're hypocrites as he can absolutely imagine a group with no belief or value system than pragmatism having no compunctions with destroying the world if they've completely lost.
• There are villains out there who created their own world that were willing to work with in full. They vetoed joining with Zim despite his victory in a Bad Future because regardless of the timeline he's an idiot, and the two Megatron as while they've taken over Cybertron in some universes they have at best a disdain for organic life. However Palpatine and Ganondorf, who are both intelligent and have held power in their setting for years, were considered perfectly acceptable business partners. They have also promised to make the Bad Future of many villains where they won the future. Of note:
  • Dr Wily had a universe where thanks to his main obstacles being sent 30 years into the future, he took over. He still had resistance however, and this future was undone when said obstacles returned to the present. Though most incarnations think that Wily's a madman for the whole "pull the moon out of the orbit" he is accepting of the Fraternity's support to make this a reality; he wants time travel to complete Zero much earlier and not have to digitize himself into the virus.
  • Dr Eggman has done Wily one better and conquered the world without the Reset Button being pulled in a number of continuities, eventually succeeding in the main one within the events of Sonic Forces. He still lost control, but points for trying. For the most part the Fraternity and Eggman can work with one another, but they are hesitant on his more crazy incarnations who would threaten the world itself, or outright destroy it if they cannot rule. They have a less severe dynamic with the Shredder, who managed to take over the world in a Bad Future; he's usually fine working with them, but sometimes he's not that interested in their lofty ambitions and with the Utrom incarnation they consider him too unstable. Trying to destroy the TMNT multiverse because you can't accept your nemesis will exist across it is tactidly insane as far as the Fraternity is concerned.
  • Many MLP villains were informed that thanks to time travel there were timelines where they won. They jumped on joining the Fraternity to make these timelines mainstream reality, with the exception of King Sombra; his ego means he refuses to work with anyone. Discord went incognito in hopes of ruining their plans.
• They are aware of the movie Wanted, but disregard it since beyond the broad strokes it doesn't have a lot in common with their world. The Fraternity there are a bunch of assassins, not supervillains.

@Crimson

for Hall

Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 10th 2021 at 3:47:00 AM

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About time the Pantheon now has Disability services. Or at least, about time they got the recognition they needed, who knows...

Deities from other places outside Medical Conditions can remain in their first places, I guess. They do seem to fit there after all.

Edited by CrimsonShark on May 10th 2021 at 11:39:10 AM

@Clovis:

@RJ:

The Fraternity is up

What Demiurge-like figures in the pantheon have I missed?

Perpetua, Goddess of Near-Almighty Divinity (Mother of the Multiverse)

• House: Holy Authority And Power (House of Faith)
• Overdeity
• Symbol: The Totality
• Alignment: Chaotic Evil
• Portfolio: An Extremely Maltheistic Figure Who Is Still Subservient To The Source, Cosmic Entity, Glowing Eyes of Doom, Malicious Ambitions To Secure True Immortality, Horns of Villainy, Lean and Mean, Devilish Demiurge Willing To Destroy Whole Universes, Absolute Cleavage, Forehead of Doom, Once Imprisoned Behind The Source Wall, Being The Ultimate Villain Of The DC Multiverse By Encouraging Bringers Of Crisis To Choose Doom
• Domains: Creators, Ambition, Immortality, Evil, Cosmic Beings, Doom
• Interests: The Lich, Darth Plagueis
• Interested in: Lucifer (Supernatural), The Nothing, the House of Emotion
• Special relationship with: Mobius/the Anti-Monitor (her son)
• Allies
  • Divine and infernal beings: Darkseid, Kronika, Chakravartin, Zanza, Dis
  • Other entities: Father (FMA), Barbatos, The Mind Flayer, Parallax, the Hounds Of War
  • Former allies: Lex Luthor, The Batman Who Laughs
• Potential Quislings: Ragyo Kiryuin, the Martians (Mars Attacks), Bandos, Ulanaq, Lord Drakkon
• On speaking terms with: The Chaos Gods, Chuck Shurley
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: The Ebon Dragon, Angra Mainyu, Fused Zamasu, the Grand United Alliance of Destruction, the Divine Powers
• Rivals: YHVH, Lucifer, Solaris, The Anti-Spiral, the Hadou Gods, The Old Gods, Galeem and Dharkon
  • Friendly Rivalry with: Melkor
• Enemies:
  • Comic book deities: Pretty much the whole DC Comics continuum, but especially Mar Novu/the Monitor and Alpheus/the World Forger (her sons), the the Presence (superior as the Source), Jon Osterman/Dr Manhattan and Diana of Themiscyra/Wonder Woman), The Celestials, The Living Tribunal, Eternity, her former allies (especially The Batman Who Laughs)
  • Creator and Top Gods: gods with a capital-G (especially The Love That Moves The Stars and Eru Illuvatar), The Flying Spaghetti Monster, Present and Future Zen'o, Arceus, Gan
  • Divine beings: The Ones, Cosmos, The Creation Trio, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, The Unconquered Sun, Ahura Mazda, Beerus, Gowasu
  • Other: The Protectors of the Plot Continuum, The Pantheonic Time Police, Aleph, The Emperor of Mankind and his Order Of Humanity
• Opposed by: The House of Magic, the Forms of Immortality sub-house
• In the greater Omniverse live the Super-Celestials, beings meant to start multiverses and give themselves to them in order to forever sustain them. However the most feared of them, Perpetua, sought to sustain herself forever with her creation of the proto-DC Multiverse. Her sons would maintain the positive matter, antimatter and dark matter aspects of her creation, while she sought to turn the multiverse into a weapon. Ultimately her sons ratted her out, resulting in the Source sending a messenger to imprison her in the Source Wall, which'd guard the multiverse from the energies beyond. However the breaking of the Source Wall has released the Mother of the Multiverse, and she plans to weaponize her creation against her brothers and sisters, and escape the judgement of the Source.
• Her ascension sent waves of fear through the Celestials; they aren't the same Celestials Perpetua is a part of, but they know the reputation she has among them. The Mother of the Multiverse soon took notice of the House of Time and Space, and its role in the expanse of the greater omniverse. Her plans are to twist it into a weapon against the Source and all true supreme beings, to ensure she will forever exist. However Perpetua knows she's a recent player in the field and if she's going to take over the Trope Pantheon, she'll need some help.
  • Both Zamasu and the Divine Powers envision the overthrowing of the status quo and the current order to achieve their own vision of a utopia. Due to the sheer power of Perpetua, they think it's wise siding with her for now to achieve their ends. Of course, despite her promises of making perfect universes for them interactions with Luthor show she cannot be trusted as a true ally to them. Then again, the same could be said of the mad Kaioshin and the Divine Powers. And yes, they are quite aware of that
  • Kronika was willing to go along Perpetua wholeheatedly. A Titan in charge of time, yet manipulating it to her own selfish ends along with...questionable parenting skills makes her similar in personality to Perpetua. That said, while Kronika has been promised absolute domain over the MK multiverse in exchange for aiding Perpetua, she dislikes her selfish motives. The Super-Celestial doesn't think she has much room to talk.
  • Chakravartin is a creator god with malicious intentions on reality, though he frames it as otherwise. Come his defeat at the hands of Asura, he has chosen to join Perpetua in hopes of gaining his ultimate ambitions. Zanza is exciting at the idea of working with the Mother of the Multiverse as they share a selfish spirit for their universes, and Perpetua will allow him the means to forever create and reshape his reality as he sees fit.
  • The Ebon Dragon and Angra Mainyu joined as she is associated with "doom" over "justice", but more importantly to finally have the edge over their antitheses. In particular Perpetua has promised to make the Ebon Dragon a cosmic force and true being. That said, camaraderie is non-existent and both sides see the other as a means to an end. The Unconquered Sun and Ahura Mazda chided them for believing it would make any significant distance, and Perpetua asked the latter God of Good why.
  Ahura Mazda: "It is not a lack of power or scale for why you will fail; it is the nature of evil to hinder itself. This is why justice shall prevail over doom, despite all your attempts."
• Perpetua wields the Seven Hidden Forces of Creation. They are as followed:
  • The Still Force; counter to Speed Force. Based around inertia and entropy. Despite this power being in line with many of Nekron's desires, Perpetua considers herself far above him and regards herself as more "constructive", thus isn't going to utilize the Grand United Alliance of Destruction. The worst part is that she legitimately is more dangerous and powerful than the Lord of the Unliving.
  • The Invisible Spectrum, which feeds on buried primal emotions. The only one known so far is the Ultraviolet Corps, which represent repressed shame and guilt. She has her sights set on the House of Emotion to further re-unlock this ancient power of hers, believing that the UV embodiment Umbrax can be awakened by exploiting the Regret sub-house.
  • The Tear of Extinction, which brings death to all living beings and immortals. It is driven toward isolation and solipsism and is tied to the Death Force. Even gods can die to it. And as such, the sub-house for immortals is on edge with her existence in the pantheon, and she believes sufficient amount can override the Death Is Cheap nature of the pantheon. Partnered with it is the Void Wind, which can snuff out magic and gods. Thus, she is feared by the House of Magic.
  • Other forces include the Black Apple, the Sixth Note and Faithlessness. The Black Apple represents forbidden knowledge, which she is trying to tempt members of the House of Knowledge with. The Sixth Note is an esoteric power beyond imagination itself. Then the Faithlessness, which while little is known it appears to be tied with the concept of Doom. The Nothing may be connected to either the Void Wind, Sixth Note or the Faithlessness. She feels it is a useful tool, though given what the Nothing is it isn't going to side with her.
• Her arrival immediately got the attention of the Presence; though He takes a different form, He is still the same being as the Source Perpetua betrayed. He immediately called on her three sons to prepare and empower them so they can form the Ultra Monitor again, while making sure the Anti-Monitor is kept on a leash. Mobius is still somewhat loyal to his mother and regrets joining his brothers to rat him out as it made his roles as a Destroyer Deity obsolete, but is forced to be disloyal whenever the Presence says so. By contrast Mar Novu and Alpheus won't hesitate to fight their mother and they don't regret ratting her out.
• Superheroes and supervillains across the DC Multiverse were on high alert come her ascension to the pantheon. Even if he's not a superhero persay, she was immediately concerned with Doctor Manhattan since it was his powers that the Batman That Laughs recreated for himself to even stand a chance against her. Likewise, she put Wonder Woman high on her hit list as when empowered by the World Forge she was the one who finally put Laughs down for good, and the Mother of the Multiverse doesn't want that kind of power up to happen again.
• Not all DC characters oppose her, however; Barbatos was convinced to strike down his master with Perpetua's advice. Substituting the Batman Who Laughs, Perpetua wants him to replace the role and join with the Mind Flayer at her side to run her new and improved Dark Multiverse for the darkness they'll bring. And she has not just whispered to Barbatos, but her son Mobius, Parallax, Alexander Luthor Jr and Darkseid, encouraging them to act in various crises to damage the Source Wall so she may one day be free. Like Melkor it is likely a stretch to say she influenced crises beyond the scope of DC, but by most metrics she is her multiverse's Greater-Scope Villain as well. Darkseid has already been promised by Laughs a world where he won the Final Crisis and Perpetua promises to maintain that for him. She has also made a clear promise to Parallax that he may run rampant and feed off the terror of The Dark Multiverse so long as he serves her.
• Because of her opposition to any true supreme being, she detests The Love That Moves The Stars; a truly transcendent presence that is the source of creation. As the Mother of the Multiverse perverts creation to her own selfish ends, He sees her as being little better than Dis. The Emperor of the Kingdom Dolorous has as much of a kinship as possible for an omnimalevolent being such as himself with Perpetua, who seeks to restore him to shape in order to be an important asset against her war of the true divine. To aid in the war against their creators she formed a strained alliance with the GUAD; giving them the firepower to destroy whole universes, but only if it's universes she thinks should go. The Mother of the Multiverse doesn't want to destroy everything forever, just re-shape things the way she sees fit.
• Perpetua believes the Force is some sort of aspect or connection to the Source. As such, she desires to capture and subjugate/twist the Ones for her own purposes, boasting "I have faced mightier Celestials than you". More generally, the Mother of the Multiverse is hated and feared by the divine. Many have compared her Gnostic Demiurge, being both a malicious god and a betrayer of the cosmic order. Though significantly less powerful than her, the Father of the Homunculi fits a lot of her character traits. Perpetua has some measure of sympathy for his desire of ultimate freedom, and she recognizes that the Truth is much like the Source in many ways. As such, she is aiding Father in taking down the Truth in order to achieve her own ends with existence.
• Perpetua's perversion of the natural order gained her many enemies even before her re-emergence. A supremely selfish creator, Gowasu regards her as the pinnacle of disorder that a god of creation can reach. Beerus agrees, and when the Mother of the Multiverse claimed he was being hypocritical, he defended this by saying he would never go so far as she did. Both Zen'o were so offended by her abuse of power(even if she argued they weren't innocents in such, they tried erasing her on the spot...only for it to not work, though she did emerge with scratches. Everyone was terrified.
  Perpetua: "Perhaps if you had proper training, I would've been in trouble. But I am feared through the greater omniverse for a reason.
• Arceus despises Perpetua for being a traitor to her job as a creator, however she doesn't think much of the Original One. Ahura Mazda fears she might be what he would become if he breaks from the stress of his job. The Mother of the Multiverse is a serious enemy to the Pantheonic Time Police and the Protectors of the Plot Continuum as well, what with her plans to warp reality to her liking and exploitation of Crisis energy. Despite all of this antipathy towards her, there were a number of divine beings who think she's justified in her feelings. It's just that they get in the way of their desires, making her a rival.
  • Obvious comparisons were made to YHVH once it was revealed He is not in fact the true God of the SMT Multiverse, but an Avatar/representative for the true Great Will. Even before that, they are selfish egomaniacs who feel creation should bend to their whim. However Perpetua believes He is overly worried about The Evils of Free Will, and there are easier means of asserting domination. The God of Order simply considers her on a level of power as to be a serious threat to His regime.
  • The opposite, Lucifer, denounces Perpetua as a coward as her core motive is to avoid becoming irrelevant. She chooses not to react to this, and as far as she's considered "Law" and "Chaos" are mere means to an end. She feels much the same about Galeem and Dharkon, who "reset the playing field" so to speak. Between Lucifer and YHVH, the Mother of the Multiverse actually respects the Divine Powers more as they seek to change the game rather than continue it, which seems the more productive action to her. Of course, she has different ideas to them on what is "productive".
  • Solaris totally agrees that reality should be torn apart to achieve their own ends, like Perpetua. However she feels the time god is myopic; if you devour all of space and time, what are you supposed to do with nothing to rule? Though she is willing to throw the multiverse under the bus for her own ends, the Mother of the Multiverse still wants an omniverse to rule. The two will at least team up if it means opposing the Pantheonic Time Police, given they are two of said police's gravest foes, and see each other more as competition than enemies.
  • Melkor is more of a clear Satanic Archetype, but Perpetua likes him the most out of her rivals. His views tie more into the idea of "doom", and they have an Arch-Enemy in a creator that they ultimately can't ever truly defeat. Melkor's Start of Darkness was frustration at not being able to create, Perpetua's was Mortality Phobia, something that the Dark Lord has come to feel as well. They'd probably be allies if they weren't so high-profile that they'd inevitably fight over control rather than be a Big Bad Duumvirate. And as far as Perpetua is concerned, Evil is but a tool.
  • Eyeing up the Throne as it allows one's Law to be the law of the multiverse, making it an extremely powerful tool for whoever sits upon it.
• Part of her goal in weaponizing the multiverse includes making hybrids of Martians and humans. There are a lot of the former to pick from, and she has decided to offer the Martian from Mars Attacks! a deal; serve as her foot soldiers and she will enhance them, becoming a powerful force in the new order. They accepted this deal. Ragyo Kiryuin has also accepted her deal for power and spreading the Life Fibre. Part of why this worked out was they have similar ideals as mothers.
• While the various alliances consider the Forever War of the pantheon frustrating, given it seems none of them will ever have a definitive win, Perpetua takes a "glass half full" approach to it. However this is only because the resultant Crisis energy will empower her. As such, she is one of the major backers of the Hounds of War, but only until such a point where she has gained so much power from the pantheon's Crisis energies she can steamroll the other alliances and take over the Trope Pantheon itself. To keep fuelling Crisis energies she has been supporting all of the Chaos Gods, even if she doesn't care about their ideologies and neither do they. This only fuels what the Emperor of Mankind has in her mind of the Mother of the Multiverse; The absolute WORST of gods. Her "vision" of violent human-Martian hybrids is an abomination to him and he regards her in the same tier of "EXTERMINATUS AT ALL COSTS" as the Chaos Gods, YHVH, Lucifer and Melkor.
• She has made sweet talk with Ulanaq in that her "doom" fits his vision, and he could reach even greater heights of divinity by being one of her disciples. He's considering it, since for now he's still siding with Vaatu. She has also promised Lord Drakkon and Bandos a fair bit of multiversal power as well. On a more academic level the Lich was interested in her and her place in the greater mythology of existence, as was Darth Plagueis because of her nature as a creator. Their ambitions have precluded becoming her allies, but they are still permitted to study her to an extent.
• Perpetua wonders if Lucifer, the son of Chuck, could serve her interests. The answer was yes, if it also serves his own. What with him being a powerful and rebellious devil, he's the kind of guy who she thinks stroking his ego would lead to him aiding her. She was most amused to learn his dad was Evil All Along, as a deity who sees creation as His amusement is an attitude she agrees with, and wonders if he can use his "writing" to help her "story" of becoming truly supreme.
• Gaining more intel onto the Dark Multiverse thanks to the Batman Who Laughs, she plans to create Dark Multiverse nightmare worlds where The Bad Guy Wins stuck in a perpetual loop with the various events in the pantheon. Well plan is more accurate; she is not to be trusted. She lied to Luthor about humanity surviving and ascending, something the Batman Who Laughs figured and eventually convinced to be her Dragon instead because of his knowledge of the Dark Multiverse. And of course he's not to be trusted, as after implanting his brain in a Bruce Wayne with Dr Manhattan's powers the "Darkest Knight" plans to overthrow her. Ultimately the Darkest Knight succeeded at killing her by pummelling her to death with the remains of the Source Wall, and now that she's been revived in the pantheon she's absolutely livid about it.

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on May 11th 2021 at 2:19:44 AM

Given she’s willing to destroy universes I wonder if she’ll be in a Teeth-Clenched Teamwork situation with the GUAD.

RJ I hate to say it, but I think that you may want to redo some of what you have with Perpetua. Some of this looks like it was written when her story was still being made. The last paragraph doesn't look like it needs to be either the last or a spoiler. Her partnership, and latter falling out with The Batman Who Laughs shouldn't be secret either. You've barely have anything in regards to her and the DC landscape, yes you mentioned her sons, but nothing about their reactions to see her again in Pantheon. In fact what does the rest of The DCU think of her return? The Celestials and The Ones are clearly different from any Celestial she knows of, there's no reason to make it ambiguous. You can still mention them with the shared relation of the name and Role, but there isn't much point in making look like they're the same. Also, it's been stated that The Presence and The Source are one and the same. Wally Wast even mentioned it in Dark Nights: Death Metal to Wonder Woman.

Edited by AzureLegacy on May 10th 2021 at 8:58:36 AM

In the subject of the Disabilities Hall, two deities of note; Garfield Lynns and Kenshi Takahashi also have two other Hall placements; Psyches and Types of Madness for the former and Aim and Skill and Eye Abilities for the latter. I apologize for overlooking this.

I would like to ask which Hall should these two characters be removed from. Either one or both would be fine if you ask me.

Done.

Edited by CrimsonShark on May 10th 2021 at 3:54:50 PM

The Presence is the Source. They're the same.

Garfield can be removed from Psyches, and Kenshi can be removed from Eye Abilities.

Sounds good

Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 10th 2021 at 7:06:27 AM

So, Qui-Gon Jinn has the trope Looks Like Jesus. One of the Halls he's in is Male Appearances. I think he should be moved from that Hall to Real and Legendary Pastiches, seeing as his resemblance to Jesus would put him closer to the House of Derivatives than Gender. What do you all think?

Are you sure he’s a Jesus expy?

Edited by Donnietu on May 10th 2021 at 7:13:26 AM

its more about a person who looks like Jesus then being an expy.

I was joking a bit.

Any suggestions?

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The Icon of Sin, Beast of the Apocalypse (The Virtual Icon of Sin)

^{Its armored form} 

^{The Icon of Sin as seen in Doom II} 

^{The Virtual Icon of Sin} 

• Overdeity
• Symbol: Its head
• Theme Songs: The Icon of Sin, Final Sin
• Alignment: Chaotic Evil
• Portfolio: Beast of the Apocalypse, Rasputinian Death, The Juggernaut, Meteors, Never Giving Up, Not Being Afraid Of Anything, Eldritch Abomination, Horned Humanoid, Is The Size Of A Skyscraper, It Can Think, Immortality, Mighty Glacier, Monster from Beyond the Veil, Planet Destroyer, Reality Warper, Thinking Up Portals, Walking Wasteland
• Domains: Demons, Hell, Power, Determination, Destruction
• Allies: The Forces of Hell, Malebolgia, The Violator, Lavos, The Death Busters, Molag Bal, Dr. Weil, Omega, Surtr, Fenrir, Bill Cipher, Tabuu
  • Virtual Icon of Sin: SKYNET, XANA
• Enemies: THE DOOM SLAYER, Godzilla, Claude Frollo, The Sailor Guardians, YHVH, Palutena, Lucifer, Bowser, Bowser Junior, Ragna the Bloodedge, Guts, Spawn, Demon Slayers in general...all of them
• Unknown Relationship: The Khan Maykr
• The Icon of Sin is an extremely massive, powerful and chaotic demon created for only one purpose. To drag the world and eventually the entire universe into Hell. It manifested again through a ritual, taking control of the Betrayer’s son and using him as a host. However, it was unable to accomplish its mission of dragging everything into Hell because of the Doom Slayer’s interference.
• Arrived to the Pantheon one day when a few deities in the Hall of Demons, lead by Malebolgia, decided to summon the Icon of Sin. However, the Doom Slayer saw this coming and came to intercept them, but the ritual was completed and the Icon of Sin was summoned into the Pantheon, where one of the deities, Malebolgia, decided to fight him. What followed was multiple demons trying to hold the Doom Slayer off from stopping Malebolgia’s plan before it started with The Violator, his superior and the forces of Hell leading the charge against him while the Icon of Sin started to rampage across the Pantheon.
  • Its rampage immediately got the attention of demon slayers such as Spawn and Dante Sparda who soon arrived to put a stop to it. However, the Icon of Sin was able to leave through a portal to reach its next destination, attacking them by summoning meteors to prevent them from following. The Icon of Sin appeared in the Hall of Dragons, where a visiting Bowser Junior was nearly killed by it like some of the deities residing there had almost been due to falling debris, fire and energy beams, pissing off his father something fierce. Bowser turned giant and punched the Icon of Sin straight out of the Hall of Dragons before exiting himself to continue fighting against it.
  • The fight got even more heated later when a good punch from Bowser sent the Icon of Sin right into the House of Ambiguity, where Ragna the Bloodedge and Guts decided to help Bowser out in defeating this foe. They were successful in finishing it off, ironically just as the Doom Slayer finished battling Malebolgia, The Violator and the forces of hell.
  • In the end, many other demon slayers such as Sparda, Vergil and Nero were appalled to learn such a thing happened. When asked where they were when its summoning occurred, they replied by saying that HIM and The Beast decided to try their hand at raiding the Treasury...coincidentally 30 minutes before said summoning. Malebolgia snickered at this, proclaiming that this was nothing but a distraction to ensure that the Icon of Sin’s summoning likely wouldn’t be interrupted.
• The Khan Maykr didn’t know what to think of the Icon of Sin’s ascension. On one hand, the Icon of Sin has plenty of power that could be useful, but on the other, her botched summoning of it due to the Doom Slayer’s interference lead to her being unable to control it. The beast became a major reason why her plans failed because of this. She does plan to have plenty of contingencies in place if she ever wants to summon and try to control it once more so that the ritual would not be interrupted like before.
• Its ability to drag its surroundings into Hell has it being sought out by the Death Busters with hopes of summoning Pharaoh 90. To do this, they want to use it as a battery and make it so that it drags its surroundings into the Tau Nebula rather than Hell. The Sailor Guardians have been trying to prevent this from ever coming to pass.
• Lucifer considered employing it as a brute for the Grand United Alliance of Chaos, but this idea quickly fell apart when it laid waste to the entirety of an area some of his demons happened to be in hours after he spoke with it, during a battle against the Grand United Alliance of Law no less. Enraged, some of Lucifer’s demons attacked it, only to be swiftly defeated and killed. Lucifer has since decided to abort that plan once he learned that the Icon of Sin’s actions caused YHVH’s forces to win said battle. Unsurprisingly, YHVH sees the Icon of Sin as an enemy for fairly obvious reasons.
• Desired to control by Tabuu who, in a similar vein to the Death Busters, wants to make it so that it drags its surroundings into Subspace instead of Hell. Of course, he knows he’ll likely have to get his armies to lure it in and defeat the Icon of Sin himself, but this hasn’t deterred him in the slightest.

Updated the Perpetua profile

I have a Doctor Who rework of two old profiles, streamlining them. I think they'd fit it better. Do you think it's a good idea? Is there a trope that's free which could encompass the whole Cult of Skaro?

• Dalek Sec and Caan, Co-Gods of Realizing Their Error (House of Alignment Changes)-these are early profiles of mine(though also reworks and restorations), and I believe they should be reworked. I believe that this could be done and add some more dynamics by giving him the Heel Realization trope, assuming it isn't taken. My reasoning? The Cult of Skaro are four Daleks capable of imagination and innovation to ensure the race's survival. Sec turned to hybridizing with a human, allowing him to realize the obsession with purity is self-destructive and becomes a better person. Caan opposes this and forms a coup, and after that fails goes back to the Time War to rescue Davros. Being exposed to all of time makes Caan the first Dalek to realize his kind is a plague without genetic modifications, and he plots the New Dalek Empire's destruction.

Draft for Lemeza and Lumisa who I adopted from nightelf37. Any suggestions for interactions with Lemeza or Abusive Precursors that the two explorers would oppose?

Noted.

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Lemeza and Lumisa Kosugi, Co-Deities of Extreme Exploration Obsessions and Full Restorations From Maxing Out EXP (Lemeza: Mr. Explorer) (Lumisa: Miss Explorer)

• Potential House: Gaming Styles

• Demideities at the start, Lesser Deities bordering on Intermediate by the end with all their gear
• Symbol: Their hats, or the temple of La-Mulana
• Theme Song: Mr. Explorer (Lemeza), Lumisa's Theme or Miss Explorer (Lumisa)
• Alignment: Possibly Chaotic Good or Neutral Good
• Portfolio: Adventurer Archaeologist, Fedora of Asskicking, Heroic Mime, Hyperspace Arsenal, Walking Armory, Ninjas In Their Family Tree, Surname Means "Small Cedar", Multi-Melee Master, Whip It Good, Third- And Fourth-Generation Japanese
  • Lemeza: The Chosen One, Expy of Indiana Jones, Raised By His Grandfather, Superior Successor To His Father Shorn, Loves Curry, Hero Of Bad Publicity
  • Lumisa: Action Girl, Distaff Counterpart, Generation Xerox, McNinja, Ms. Fanservice, Mysterious Past, Wearing A Flag On Your Neck, Breast Pocket, and Pant Leg
• Domain(s): Exploration, Adventure, Saving Humanity, Challenge
• Heralds: Shorn/Shawn Kosugi (Lemeza's dad and Lumisa's grand-dad (or possibly also dad)), Mulbruk
• Allies: Nathan Drake, Lara Croft, Captain Toad, the League of Explorers, Daring Do, Simon Belmont, Firion, Quote and Curly Brace, Pit
  • Lemeza: Indiana Jones (borders on FriendlyRivalry, Sojiro Sakura, Rock Lee, Usalia
  • Lumisa: Thor, Ann Takamaki, Lea
• Enemies: Abusive Precursors and other malevolent creators like YHVH, Amon, as well as Rafaam
  • Lemeza: John Kramer
  • Lumisa: Hades, Surtr, Hel
• Annoyed by: Klefki
• Respected by: The good-aligned deities of the Hall of Fairies, as well as Titania, Ghaleon
• Opposes: Mem Aleph, Antasma, Golbat and Zubat, Rouge the Bat, Medusa Heads
• Opposed by: The Regi Trio
• Conflicting Opinion (Lumisa only): Burgerpants, Flowey
• Lemeza Kosugi is a professor of archaeology, who received a letter from his father Shorn (whom he has a competitive relationship with), who claimed he has discovered the ruins of La-Mulana, supposedly the birthplace of all civilizations and carried the secret treasure of life itself. Following his father's trail, Lemeza came to the ruins to decode its secrets himself. Upon conquering La-Mulana and obtaining its treasure, another similar site known as Eg-Lana, deep within La-Mulana, would become relevant later. He would try to go for its treasure, but ultimately it would be claimed by his daughter, Lemisa Kosugi, who originally went in to explore its dangerous lands in order to learn of the secrets that it held, going similar trials, puzzles, and death traps.

• In their extremely vast, extremely deadly, and extremely mind-boggling explorations of ancient ruins, getting through all of the secrets they could find relied greatly on interacting with just about anything they could possibly handle, for the puzzles they dealt with often relied on the most obscure details and similarly ludicrous methods. Additionally, due to the scarcity of healing methods within the ruins they delve into, they often find themselves relying on the health refills that result from leveling up, even to the point of exploiting it in more dangerous situations, it being required for Lemeza in particular. For these reasons, the explorers were given the tropes of Always Check Behind the Chair and Level-Up Fill-Up.
  • The secret to their insane durability in the latter aspect is the Sacred Orbs from La-Mulana that they've collected. With certain privileges in the Pantheon, they don't need to carry them around anymore to reap the benefits (not that it was ever a problem anyway).
• YHVH found the Kosugis' destruction of both La-Mulana and Eg-Lana apprehensible, due to the fact that in their universe, the ruins of La-Mulana and Eg-Lana are considered as sacred world heritage sides, on top of the fact they killed many entities that could be considered deities, including The Mother, the creator of humanity and all sapient life on their planet. Their actions were brought forward to the Court of the Gods to see to it that they could be punished, but Lucifer and even Cosmos argued against YHVH's outcries, noting that The Mother would destroy every race that failed to bring her into space, and would have eventually destroyed humanity. The Court judged that the two explorers were just in destroying La-Mulana and Eg-Lana, stating that their actions were for the greater good overall. In spite of this failure, YHVH and his GUAL do not ever intend to welcome the two archaeologists.
• In terms of gear, it's not known how much of (if any of) Lemeza's gear still has between the end of his adventure and when Lumisa finds him and Shorn after they went missing, but he now has them all back for future adventures. As for Lumisa, she still has hers just at the end of her adventure.
• Their temple takes the form of their home. There's also a Flame Statue from La-Mulana and Eg-Lana that they can use to refuel their Lamps of Time (which stops time for a couple of seconds before its flame extinguishes). The fact that they have such an artifact is a concern to some members of the House of Time And Space, even if it is effectively a one-use thing most of the time.
• With little surprise, they look up to other famous explorers like Lara Croft, Nathan Drake, and the League of Explorers for their interests in adventuring within dangerous archaelogy sites. And of course, Indiana Jones as well, but with Lemeza especially since he's an Expy of Indiana Jones. Often you'll see them compete for treasures whenever they're in the same dangerous temple or ruins. Additionally, Captain Toad and Daring Do spectate the Kosugis' adventures to learn from their skills and methods for dealing with ancient puzzles and riddles.
• Lemeza always carries around his thin, lightweight, Japan-made Mobile Super X2 laptop, which is made specially for archeological exploration. It contains ROMs/software that can do more than just operate stuff in it but influence his surroundings as well, including an Auto-Revive (but It Only Works Once per "save"). It also has a pair of cases that make it usable even while underwater or underlava. As for Lumisa, she has a "Mobile Super X3+" tablet PC that serves the same purpose as Lemeza's laptop, with applications that can run functions similar to Lemeza's programs, including the same Auto-Revive as her father's.
  • Speaking of lava/magma, with the Ice Cape/Cloak, Lemeza/Lumisa's also extremely resistant. As for water, which is poisonous in La-Mulana and Eg-Lana, they both have a Scalesphere to protect from such effects, though freezing water is still a problem (luckily for Lumisa, she has something else for that).
• The Kosugis apparently have a long line of ninjutsu in the family tree, and both used Ninja infiltration techniques for navigating around the death traps of La-Mulana as well as surviving great falls. They're also adept at using the Grapple Claw to scale walls.
• Besides their signature (flail) whips, both Kosugis each possess a knife, axe, katana, flare gun, pistol, and Angel Shield. As for their other "sub-weapons", they'll have to make do with what's available in the Pantheon, though they prefer shurikens (standard and "rolling" kinds), javelins, "potato masher" grenades, (throwable) chakrams, and caltrops. For their diverse array of weaponry, the two deities have earned the respect of Firion for their common interest in utilizing a variety of weaponry.
• From what they knew in La-Mulana and Eg-Lana, the deities of the various religions of their world were actually from predecessor races. Those Lemeza has met include Pazuzu, the Nuckelavee, Anubis, and Beelzebub. Those Lumisa has met include Ammit, Sekhmet, Angra Mainyu (though as a giant frog), Cerberus, the Hydra (though the one she fought doesn't even look draconic), the Sphinx, Arachne, Scylla, Fenrir (though it was a manned mecha), Daji, Ratatoskr (who was actually Hraesvelgr), Ra, and Surtr. Their counterparts in the Pantheon have reactions ranging from indifference to a little contempt. Ra had minor worries concerning that the counterpart of him Lumisa fought was more antagonistic and even absorbed the Horus of their world into himself by force.
• Like with YHVH, neither deity is fond of Amon for his desire to destroy everything and recreate the universe to his liking, all for selfish purposes. They also find Mem Aleph to be far too similar to The Mother that they've fought against for their liking. Mem Aleph is displeased with them given their penchant for dealing with mythical figures and demons and the fact that even she knows better than to cause genocide on her own children for much less meaningful failures than the destruction of nature. That said, they do understand each others' opposition against YHVH, at the very least.
• Having had to contend with so many Goddamned Bats in La-Mulana/Eg-Lana, the Kosugis despise all forms of Ledge Bats. On the other hand, they have a recipe for bat curry. This has made Golbat and Zubat stay far away from them, and Antasma has been offended by the notion, but knowing their experience with actual deities, he also keeps away from them. Rouge still wants to try to get in on their adventures to steal some of the loot they find, though with much hesitation. Obviously they dislike the potential annoyance that the Medusa Heads can become, which Simon Belmont is in much agreement with.
• The two of them looted the temple of the Regi Trio after finding the entrance to their temple rather easy to break in, given their experience with much harder puzzles. The Regi Trio were not very happy to see them take whatever they felt like getting their hands on, but were mostly helpless to stop them given their agility.
• Obviously, going through so many of them already, they despise those who use death traps in general, but Lemeza has a special hatred for them given that he's been given four achievements for dying to death traps. His rancor extends to the Jigsaw Killer for his interest in creating them. Kramer sometimes worries that if he gets Lemeza caught up in one of his traps that he may personally come for him, and given his determination and experience with death traps, the Jigsaw Killer has all the right to be concerned.
• Being able to interact with fairies with Isis' Pendant, they're friendly with plenty of the non-evil deities from the Hall of Fairies, and they've given similar respect to Titania as they did with the Fairy Queen of their world. As such, sometimes a member of that Hall will give them a blessing whenever they're in the mood. Ghaleon also has high respect for them not only for their overall nice treatment towards fairies but them reminding him of a hero from his world named Hiro who also had an interest in exploring ruins like they did.
  • Klefki's one of the members that effectively antagonizes them by robbing them of keys they find when exploring, and from their initial encounters with the Pokemon, watch their inventory more sternly than before. As if they weren't already after getting robbed of some of the treasures they found in other adventures by Rafaam.
• They both love to rest in hot springs to recover, with or without their normal clothing on. The two of them along with Pit like to describe themselves as "Hot Spring Connoisseurs".
• Exclusive to Lemeza:
  • As a curry addict, Lemeza is a regular customer at Café Leblanc, and whenever he isn't exploring ruins, temples, or dungeons, he's very likely lounging there. Sojiro's thankful that in the Pantheon, running out of stock isn't too much of a concern for him, though making curry for Lemeza can be tedious at times. And when it comes to other people who love eating curry, he's made a friend out of Rock Lee due to their shared like of curry and becoming interested in each other's ninja techniques, as well as Usalia due to always having a friendly curry-eating contest whenever they visit at the same time, much to Sojiro's dread.
  • On one dreaded day, Lemeza suddenly was walking around in some skimpy looking attire that the Pantheon calls the Provocative Bathing Suit, and went to the House of Music just to dance with it on, for everyone to see. Many deities watching at the time were traumatized, to put it simply, and ran away in fear. Even the deities who normally didn't mind men like him wearing bikinis and other feminine clothing couldn't help but feel uncomfortable about it. Very rare footage of the event is also used by members of the House of Torture and Mutilation use it to mentally torture some of the more stoic victims they get their hands on. A VUX individual, known for finding humans horribly ugly, instantly died upon accidentally looking at it. Nowadays, if Lemeza is seen with that thing on, he's straight up banned from the House of Music and many heavily public areas. Lumisa holds no comment on the suit, nor does she have any inclination to wear it herself.
  • Is not fond of fathers that exploit their childrens' work, considering that his father, Shorn, stole the treasure of La-Mulana after finishing his quest. However, everyone else, Lumisa included, properly called him out when he and Shorn decided to steal the Treasure of Eg-Lana from Lumisa who earned it herself and rescued them earlier as well. Lumisa did get it back in the end. Lemeza hasn't tried or thought about repeating this anyway, secretly respecting his daughter for managing to take it back.
• Exclusive to Lumisa:
  • Given their ages, it's not known what her family situation is. Was she the daughter of Lemeza's wife before she married Lemeza? Is she actually an illegitimate child of Shorn? Did Lemeza father her when he was only 15? Is she even born a Kosugi? Nobody knows, and neither of them are answering.
  • Among her inventory is the Mjolnir, which she can use to absorb lighting, especially the supernatural kind, and then cast it herself. That said, it can only hold so much and will discharge if she takes more than it can handle if she doesn't do it manually. With the Power Band accessory she also obtained separately, she can direct it at foes.
    • When she was first seen with it, Thor was quick to notice her skills with it, and requested a friendly duel to demonstrate each other's skills with their respective Mjolnir. Lumisa accepted and soon the Hall of Electricity ended up needing much repairs. While Thor obviously had more expertise with it, he was still impressed by Lumisa's usage of her own Mjolnir. Additionally, Thor's also interested in her potential to oppose some of Thor's enemies, particularly Surtr and Hel, both of which greatly dislike Lumisa for her victory against their counterparts in her world. Fenrir and Jorumgand were just machines there so they don't care too much.
  • Is suspicious of Saitama due to somehow recognizing him, but as a different person known as Hydlit, a merchant she's dealt with whose face and baldness match Saitama very similarly. Later on, she learned of Lea, who despite her communication issues, managed to get across her own suspicions about Saitama, which Lumisa believes to have been another person deceived by Saitama, unaware that Lea encountered a Santa Claus who looked like Saitama. While their efforts in exposing Saitama's secret identities have failed repeatedly, they still respect each other for their abilities to explore and deal with puzzles.
  • She also has the Gale Fibula, which are reminiscent of Link's Pegasus Boots in that when worn she can sprint really fast in a certain direction, but cannot stop until she bumps into something.
  • While pitying Burgerpants for his unfortunate occupation, having met him in her own trek within Eg-Lana, the gestures he made towards her had genuinely creeped her out. (They were not any romantic advances of any kind, just really odd in general) She's aware that he's somewhat of a decent guy regardless. She also recognizes Flowey and is confused about his reputation since Flowey hasn't harmed or tormented anyone in her own adventure, though she knows he can make a foul grin. Flowey also continues to act nice and innocent near her, even though Lumisa's unaware that Flowey's a good guy pretending to be evil, as The Mole for the GUAG.
  • Despises those who orchestrate a war, and then plant someone else as The Scapegoat for it, as had happened with the Giant Sakit when she met him (the one Lemeza met was a false one), which not even Lemeza knew about before his trip into Eg-Lana. For this reason she has a special enmity for Hades (the one opposing Pit), infamous for the Wish Seed incident in his world where he got humans and Pit to attack a phoenix, only to use its death to trigger a greater war within humanity for the false existence of the Wish Seed.
  • At first, some deities mistook Lumisa for another deity named Ann Takamaki due to her Japanese-American heritage, her use of whips, and because of having "seen" her previously in some Halloween event where the Phantom Thieves had dressed up as various archaeologists that weren't deified back then, including Ann dressing as Lumisa herself. When the two eventually met, it ended off with a laugh-filled discussion, and their similarities ended up making each good friends. ^{Who else was who?} For the record, Ren dressed as Pyramid King Brandon, Ryuji as Mack Hartford, Makoto as Rayna "Ray" Kazuki, Morgana as Montblanc, Haru as Amelia Peabody, Futaba as a Techpriest (but simplified to avoid being confused for a real one), and Yusuke as Bill Weasley).

Edited by Necromancer10 on May 10th 2021 at 2:05:26 PM

“Man, being a Dalek sucks“

Cybermen should still be Greater Gods when a inevitable rework comes

Time for the Life And Death purge. Next month, probably Combat

Goodbye

• The Crow (Karmic Death)
• Alessi (Fountain of Youth)
• Nana Abe (Vague Age)
• Lorien (The Older Immortal)
• The Capsuleer (Resurrective Immortality)
• Prometheus and Pandora (Your Days Are Numbered)
• Lord Death (The Death of Death)
• Kel’Thuzad (Necromancer)
• Pukin (Rasputinian Death)
• Sanada Yukimura (Last Stand)
• Phoenix Ikki (Back from the Dead)
• Johann Faust VIII ({{Necromantic]}})
• Patsy Walker/Hellcat (Rescued from the Underworld)
• Eric Draven (Rise from Your Grave)
• Haru Ichinose (Assassin Outclassin')
• Sole Survivor (Sole Survivor)
• Morinth (Out with a Bang)
• Yoshiyuki Tomino (Kill Em All)
• Shadow Yamato (Resignations Not Accepted)
• Shinobu Hioka/Detec Bell and Tama Inubouzaki (He Knows Too Much)
• The Nothing Card (Element No. 5, Sphere of Destruction)
• Shinado (Put Them All Out of My Misery)
• Shizuku Ashuu (Senseless Sacrifice)

Edited by M1gamiTensei on May 10th 2021 at 11:33:56 AM

A profile cannot be in two Halls in the same House. However, since their dual tropes both fit those Halls, I am wondering if an exception could be made or one of their tropes could be removed. I remember them only being approved for Always Check Behind the Chair, unless my memory is failing me.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 10th 2021 at 11:04:32 AM

I'm sure we can find other candidates for Always Check Behind the Chair. Level-Up Fill-Up, not so much. Trust me, I've checked, and the Kosugis were who I picked because of one instance of it needing to be exploited rather than just being in effect like so many other games.

Edited by nightelf37 on May 11th 2021 at 2:27:58 AM