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  • Adaptation Displacement:
    • There were a lot of foreign fans (even Fate series and Type-Moon fans) who hadn't heard about the game until the anime adaptation was announced and then officially subtitled. Considering that at the time, the game was available only in Japan and China, it was inevitable.
    • Funnily enough, the game itself is one for the franchise in Japan - Nasu himself has admitted that the vast majority of the game's players hadn't played F/SN or seen other Fate media prior to playing GO. GO's Newbie Boom is actually helping to fuel other Fate projects like the Apocrypha anime adaptation.
  • Americans Hate Tingle:
    • The English-speaking fanbase seems to regard Artemis and Orion as The Scrappy, citing Artemis' Fetish Retardant-heavy design and deeming their personalities to be unlikable and unfaithful to their original mythology in a way that's not interesting. However, the Japanese fanbase seems to like them enough that they've become a collective Breakout Character. Their popularity spiked for the Rashoumon and Onigashima events since they're useful for the 3 BP battles.
    • Shuten-douji is insanely popular with Japanese fans, thanks to her design and thick, slurry Kansai Regional Accent Aoi Yuuki gives her. However, she's much less popular with western fans due to having the appearance of a little girl in a highly Stripperiffic outfit.
    • While Lord El-Melloi II (Zhuge Liang) has always caused some friction with some fans conceptually, since they wasted a potential Servant's design by using a pre-existing character's design, he's really unpopular in China, where Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a cultural landmark, as they find him outright offensive (what with him being a British man, who does have some vague Japanese features as an adult, hosting one of the greatest heroes of China). Not helping matters is the fact that the pool of Chinese Servants in the game remains rather small, and the only other summonable Servant from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms is Lu Bu, and he's currently only available as an unintelligible Berserker.
    • Blackbeard is much more base-breaking in the US as his pedophiliac behavior is more creepy than amusing to NA players, compared to Japanese players who like his antics and his Otaku behavior. If the NA players liked him, it's usually because his creepiness is Played for Laughs by being the Butt-Monkey to the point of memes.
  • Anti-Climax Boss:
    • As the game progresses and more newer and powerful units become available as supports, bosses that were previously seen as difficult in the game's early stages are now a cakewalk with the right units.
    • Caster Gilles is the true final boss of the Orleans singularity, but you fight him alone (Jeanne Alter was flanked by two high-level wyverns) and he's only slightly stronger than when you battled him in a previous chapter.
    • Out of all the bosses in Camelot, Tristan is considered to be the easiest. Tristan's "Reversal" might throw people for a loop, but you don't need a Saber to defeat him, as his attacks have a lot of hits so they charge your party's NP gauge's by quite a bit, and his NP charge skill actually makes it so that he can't use his NP on the same turn, so it's easy to defend against compared to Mordred and Gawain in the same chapter.
    • While Babylonia is a difficult chapter overall, the boss battles with the main villains are easy compared to some of the other enemies you fight in the same chapter.
      • Tiamat's or rather, Tiamat-Gorgon's normal attacks have tons of hits and attack the whole party, which charges up your party's Noble Phantasms at an insane rate, which allows you to spam them with impunity. The only thing that may throw you off is that she may try to stun you at random, and her crits are a different animation and hit quite a bit harder than double normal.
      • Kingu has no particularly annoying skills, and has many hits in his attacks (only they can only hit one target), giving him the same drawbacks that Gorgon has. His Noble Phantasm is also easily telegraphed and is single target, meaning that Mash can block it with her 3rd and 2nd skills. Even in the final battle, the only thing that changes is that his class changes to Avenger (which arguably makes him easier since you don't have to worry about the class matchups outside of having Rulers warm the bench, if you even have any), and at the end of every other turn he gains an NP charge (which is still rather slow to charge and is still easily telegraphed).
      • Femme Fatale has no attacks and only throws out debuffs, relying on the two Lahmu with her to deal damage. Once you kill them off, you're free to whittle down her HP at your own pace.
      • Tiamat's final form once again shares Gorgon's problem of having a normal attack that has tons of hits and attacks the whole party, allowing you to spam Noble Phantasms. In addition, you get a large permanent buff that makes things even easier, a stronger version of Merlin as a story support, and she was preceded by a much more grueling battle against a horde of eleven Bel Lahmus.
    • In a way, the Demon Pillars at the Final Singularity. They all have 600,000 HP or more, but at this point, with your party's power (and supports) that is boosted further by Bond Level, it can go down easily in 2-3 turns.
    • Archer Shinjuku. After Avenger of Shinjuku, we fight him and an Avenger Demon Pillar. The Demon Pillar only has AOE multi-hit attacks that fill NP gauges easily and the Archer himself has several exploitable traits (male, evil, Archer) that Lancers like Swimsuit Tamamo or Vlad III (Extra) can easily take advantage of him.
    • The final boss of the Salem singularity, Foreigner Abigail Williams, runs into this too, especially for players who were keeping up with the game prior to the release of Salem. The boss in question is mostly defensively neutral and resists Berserkers(!), but is conventionally weak to Alter Ego servants. That might seem like a rare weakness... but a mere month before Salem, Halloween 2017 gave players an Alter Ego for free. Now, this was probably by design, but Mecha Eli-chan is entirely too suited to the fight at hand, since she has a single target Buster NP that can mostly deplete one of the boss' four life bars by itself, with her being virtually guaranteed to one-round an entire life bar with an NP Brave Chain and modest buffs. If you can manage some combination of Mecha Eli-chan and Merlin, the fight is far easier than other chapter bosses; if you can manage two Mecha Eli-chans, the fight is an absolute joke. Worse still, bringing Mecha Eli-chan does spoil the atmosphere of the fight to some degree, since you have the vessel of a mind-consuming Outer God getting the tar beaten out of her by a joke-laden reference to Mecha Godzilla.
  • Arc Fatigue:
    • Orleans has become this over time, especially for new or returning players. Compared to the previous chapter, Fuyuki, which was a nice opening to the game and included some call backs to the original Fate Stay Night, Orleans is a slow crawl of a grind where you face numerous Wyvern enemies, often for five levels in a row to clear a single town, and several Servants with combos that are tedious and annoying to face against. Its such a slow halt that its often where some players stop playing the game, as it takes far too long to complete the chapter, plus the story in it is a bit bland and lacks the draw that Fuyuki had, and ones after it have.
    • Due to slow story progress, flat character interactions, everyone pointedly shilling Nero even for those who should not (notably Boudica, who in real life led an anti-Roman force almost on par with Hannibal's), and the combination of hyping and subsequent late update of Okeanos, Rome had overstayed its welcome in many players' eyes. Even the staff considered it an Old Shame later on.
    • Chaldea Summer 2016 Part 2 is disliked because it focuses too much on the boars and their interactions with Servants were awful. The story has also been derided as boring, especially with its ending when Scathach pushes the Reset Button on everything.
  • Author's Saving Throw:
    • After the mess of a launch due to being severely understaffed, DelightWorks made several steps to fixing the copious balance and performance issues. The first step for this was the first "GUDAGUDA Honnoji" in 2015, where many improvements were made.
    • A-1 Pictures increased their animation quality for the America PV as an answer to ufotable's "Garden of Order" PV.
    • There were several stealth personality retcons after the gigantic character waste that was Septem. From Boudica showing her anger and going berserk at the sight of Romans in "Garden of Order", Caligula actually getting to talk about something that isn't Nero in Prison Tower, and Nero being Giftedly Bad with characters in-universe accordingly dissing her instead of shilling and praising her every action in America.
    • The Onigashima event features raid battles like the Ibaraki-douji event, but there are several improvements over the previous event, such as allowing players to keep rewards and speeding up the event by allowing progress to continue when the last boss dies as opposed to sticking rigidly to a date based progression. These improvements were also implemented into the Rashoumon event rerun, which made it much easier for casual players to earn all the rewards as well as encouraging experimentation with the highest difficulty quests.
    • The release of the long-rumored Grail Ascension (named Palingenesis in-game) has been received very well, as the feature finally allows Servants of the lower rarity to fight almost or just as good as the rarer Servants, while allowing already powerful Servants to become even more powerful. In mere minutes after its release, several players had ascended their favorite Servant to level 100.
    • Some Servants in an alternate Class are either stronger or have better artwork.
      • One example is the summer version of Anne & Mary. Their Rider version is disliked for the art, even if they're one of the better SR units. Their Archer version was received more warmly for having better artwork and them having more boosts to their NP in gameplay was a nice bonus.
      • Another example is Swimsuit Altria who's considered one of the best versions of her because of her skills combined nicely with her NP gain and NP and was highly valued for her debut event, being the only Archer for reliable farming.
    • After the Final Singularity, DW announced that they intended to update several Servants' sprites and animations, even non-gold Servants.
    • DW aims to make every Servant viable for players at any point in the game with Strengthening Quests and Interludes giving gameplay upgrades for them. Event bonuses for certain Servants means even the most hated ones can be used (at least in the party's backrow) at a certain point.
    • The English translators have been putting an effort on improving the localization in the game by revising some translations. Beyond spelling errors, they also updated skill names like Lancelot's "Infinite Military Training" to "Eternal Arms Mastership" and improved dialogue, like with Martha's summoning line.
    • Shielder's Valentine's day chocolate having the name "Matthew" written on it was ignored by most of the fandom who continued to use the name "Mashu" for her. Eventually, official merchandise went with 'Mash' instead and for Valentines 2017 the CE was redone to make the name on it Mashu as well. Finally, when the game was released in English it was the last nail in the coffin as her name remained Mash.
  • Awesome Art:
    • Several Servants and CEs have had their artwork praised for their depictions of characters and are another reason people roll for them, gameplay usefulness notwithstanding.
    • As the game advanced, they began to use CGs to illustrate some of the more awesome moments in the game, for example, Camelot has Ozymandias crashing his temple into Camelot, Babylonia has Kingu restraining Tiamat with the Chain of Heaven, Shinjuku has Saber Alter ride in on her motorcycle to save the protagonist, and Shimosa has Muramasa preparing his Noble Phantasm and then slicing the entire castle in half.
  • Awesome Music: Enough to give the game its own page, especially after the game's budget increased over time.

    B 
  • Best Boss Ever:
    • After a couple of those kinds of bosses in a row with Solomon's dodge spam and Goetia's incredibly busted turn 1 combo that turns the unwary player's entire frontline to ashes, we get the ultimate, and truly final battle with Human King Goetia. Not only is it extremely well-balanced as to be challenging but fair even to the most stacked of parties, but it features arguably the single greatest music track in the game while being an amazing throw back to the fan favorite battle of Kirei vs Shirou in Heaven's Feel: after having become mortal and overwhelmed by the Protagonist, Goetia still stands, already one-and-a-half foot in the grave but with willpower left in him to spare, and challenges you to one last battle, no longer with the fate of the world at risk, just your life and his, with the earnest hope that you, his greatest adversary, will stay and watch the end of his story, of his short but finally real life. That it manages to make Goetia of all people infinitely sympathetic considering his past actions is just the icing on the cake for an amazing boss fight.
    • It's immensely satisfying to beat the Final Boss of SE.RA.PH after all she's done both in the event story and in past events, with the Kiara Punishers forcing her onto a level playing field and an absolute god-tier orchestral remix of her battle theme playing. She's challenging but fair and players can have fun with her by choosing which Kiara Punishers to utilize in the battle to challenge themselves. Bringing Meltlilith or Passionlip enhances the experience, not just because they're the only ones who deal extra damage but their character arc comes to a culmination as they finally overcome Kiara.
  • Bizarro Episode: Most events are incredibly wacky. Surprisingly most are considered canon now after the limited Servants from some of those events appear in the Final Singularity.
    • "GUDAGUDA Honnoji". The entire event was designed as an overblown parody of the game, promoting two gag characters from Koha-Ace being suddenly added to the game. Lots of fourth wall jokes, sudden events and overall strangeness ensues. "GUDAGUDA Meiji Revival" has the protagonist, along with Nobunaga and Okita, travel to Bakumatsu-era Japan which is being ravaged by a chibi Nobu army. Hijikata and Nobukatsu (Nobunaga's younger brother) appear to drag Okita and Nobunaga respectively against their will to fight.
    • The 2015 Christmas Event. The protagonist is kidnapped by Santa Alter to serve as her reindeer to deliver presents to F/GO characters, much lampshading and mockery ensues.
    • "Saber Wars" with Mysterious Heroine X coming straight from her humble April Fools origin in a non April Fools event! Where Heroine X must eliminate all Sabers! But first she's going to train Saber Lily in utilizing her crotch blaster! Also the main currency is Altria's ahoge.
    • The starting concept for "Garden of Order" was "a lot of Servants have started living in Ogawa Apartments, so Shiki will be going around collecting their rent." It’s not a gag story, no.
    • "Da Vinci and the 7 Fake Heroic Spirits" starts when someone started selling a counterfeit Mona Lisa CE because the ones in Da Vinci's shop were too expensive. Then it turns into an otome game with Jeanne Alter as the heroine halfway through the storyline, faithfully Lampshaded by an ex-galge protagonist.
    • "Starry Xuanzang Goes to India" is a full-blown parody of Journey to the West, with Servants as the characters!
    • The "Chaldea Summer" event starts off with Chaldea's crew and Servants off having a fun vacation on a tropical island (even with the onset of humanity's approaching destruction)... and then in part 2, players deal with a post-apocalyptic world run by intelligent boars.
    • The Prisma Illya event is essentially a Magical Girl show using the cast of F/GO.
    • The Halloween Event of 2016 steps up the weirdness of the previous event by being extremely generous with the in-jokes and shout-outs, how the map is based on Ghosts And Goblins, and how zany the dialogue is even compared to previous events.
    • Christmas 2016 starts off with Jeanne Alter, who in a moment of anger, drinks a potion of youth and becomes a ten year old Jeanne Lily who wants to spread happiness by being Santa, unfortunately she doesn't have a very good grasp of what people want for Christmas....
    • "All the Statesmen" revolves around Riyo's gag Servant and the wackiness of Learning with Manga! comic strips.
    • The summer 2017 event, "Dead Heat Summer Race", is a Wacky Racing event with swimsuit-wearing Servants as the participants. And then it turns into the goddamn Great Escape with swimsuit Servants, and Medb of all people as the chief warden!
    • Halloween 2017 continues the 2015 and 2016 event, this time featuring a wholesome Shout-Out to Godzilla vs. Mecha-Godzilla and references with a fourth wall observer, Osakabe-hime.
    • Christmas 2017, although a story-centric event written by Nasu, has the protagonist with a sheep-riding, feverish Santa Altera visiting the Underworld, Irkalla, which Ereshkigal has decorated with Christmas knick-knacks.
    • Setsubun 2018 has the protagonist and Archer Inferno climb a hundred-story pagoda in which the air is filled with alcohol and various Servants with their various antics waits for them. The event also has various Onsen scenes of Servants interacting with one another.
    • Valentine 2018 has Chaldea ran out of chocolates for Valentine's day when Semiramis and her Hanging Gardens of Babylon appeared and monopolizes all chocolates. She agreed to give Chaldea her chocolates, but in turn they must work for her to build her own chocolate factory.
  • Breather Level: The Salem chapter of Epic of Remnant is a story-centric chapter, thus it has much easier and fewer battles compared to other EOR chapters. The battles there are straightforward, with the only gimmick being the occasional fight having both player and enemy levels halved.
  • Broken Base:
    • While it's not a new issue for the Fate series, the fact that several of the new servants appear to be Gender Flip versions of famous historic or legendary male figures, rather than ones who were already female to begin with, is very divisive here, especially since said Gender Flip designs tend to be Stripperiffic. Some fans like it and find them interesting or sexy, while a lot of others dislike it and consider it to be Type-Moon and DW Pandering to the Base with gratuitous Fanservice that doesn't even work half the time.
    • That some of the series' most popular characters are limited time only (eq: Scathach, Gilgamesh, and Iskandar) for a week or two seems like a money grab to some, while others argue they're probably going to be added to the gacha later anyway and people should just be patient. It doesn't help though that they're 5* Servants, which are notoriously hard to get in the gacha (the chance of getting one SSR is as low as one percent).
    • The game's tendency to release limited Servants makes some worry that the game may reach the point that more than half of total number playable Servants are limited only.

    C 
  • Character Tiers: As one might expect, and more heavily debated than many.
    • Almost every tier list has Waver and Merlin at the top because of a major consensus that they are useful for almost any fight.
    • One thing worth noting is that the free 4* Servants attached to events have tended to be pretty good - which, as time has gone on, has generated significant goodwill toward DelightWorks, especially after the game's rocky launch. Only Altria Lily, Seig, and Brave Liz are considered not-so-great, and that's just due to Lily's generally middling stats, Sieg very anti-synergistic skills and anti-Dragon niche that is incredibly bad for him (since Sieg is a Caster while most Dragons are Riders, which puts him in an incredible disadvantage against Dragons) and the unpredictable nature of Brave Liz's third skill - and even then, they're still perfectly usable, just uninspired. Meanwhile, on the other end of the scale, Chloe von Einzbern from the Prisma Illya crossover and Rider Kintoki from the Onigashima event can only be described as ridiculous (which itself says it all, really).
    • Another part of the game's design is that lower-rarity does not automatically mean the character is flat-out inferior. Yes, they start with lower level caps, and even at equalized level via Palingenesis their stats can be a bit lower... but a marked number of characters can still be very useful on teams due to their skills (and there's the class Elemental Rock–Paper–Scissors). Some noted above under Bribing Your Way to Victory are so useful that they're often considered "low-rarity EX tier", in that even for a player with a strong gold lineup otherwise, their skills and NPs make them valid picks over even five-star characters.
    • The Japanese version's current metagame (for difficult gameplay content) nowadays is Buster-oriented, because of Buster-based supports (most notably Merlin) and Buster-based damage dealers in general (Jeanne Alter, Musashi and Ishtar). Next are Arts-based teams with damage dealers (Saber Lancelot, Nero Bride, Chloe, and Swimsuit Altria), general supports (Waver, Tamamo, and Holmes), and excellent tanks (Mash, Jeanne, and Georgios). Due to a dearth of Quick supports, Quick-based Servants have been left behind in the dust, except Jack and Rider Kintoki.
  • Complacent Gaming Syndrome: In terms of ranking of the Servants, a lot of players often go for the Servants with single target Noble Phantasms (since they deal more damage than an AoE NP), and Servants that can either generate stars or use those stars to their advantage (since criticals are able to outdamage an NP while making art cards generate more NP for the servant) and Waver or Merlin which have a crapton of buffs. With the inclusion of Merlin and his infamous skill that grants Buster and critical damage increase, many players now favors Servants that are Buster-oriented or the Critical Hit Class Servants.
  • Counterpart Comparison: Thanks to Friendly Fandoms with Fire Emblem Heroes, whenever a Servant whose name became the inspiration of the name of the Fire Emblem character or item, both fans like to make comparisons between how Delightworks and Nintendo portray them respectively.
  • Crack Pairing:
    • Olga Marie is shipped a lot with the protagonist.
    • Dr. Roman and Da Vinci are close friends who fight Like an Old Married Couple, and their voice actors are married, but the pairing of Leonardo da Vinci and King Solomon is a bit cracky.
    • For fans of Greek Mythology out there, Asterios/Euryale, after some dubious comments made by Euryale. Doubles as Huge Guy, Tiny Girl, veering into Hot Skitty-on-Wailord Action.
    • Sasaki Kojirou and Martha, after their interactions in the Moon-Viewing event. This ship is acknowledged in "Chaldea Summer" when Kojirou was crushing hard on Ruler Martha.
    • Vlad III and Nero. Especially popular in fanart. Some of the same fanart also features Vlad/Romulus.
    • Marie Antoinette with either Mozart, Sanson, and/or d'Eon. Or three of them at once. Or with Jeanne, due to their interactions in Orleans.
    • After Londinium, some fans ship Jekyll/Mordred, Fran/Mordred, and Andersen/Nursery Rhyme.
      • Shipping of Fran/Mordred rose again with the Apocrypha crossover event, Inheritance of Glory; the CM, of which had a brief clip of the two sharing a celebratory fist bump while walking away from a pile of destroyed golems, being the first fuel to the ship's resurgence.
    • Okita/Nobunaga has always been a ship ever since they got into the game, but with things like "Garden of Order" having them living together, it's become more popular. Fans argued that they refused to fight in "GUDAGUDA Meiji Revival" is because they actually like each other.
    • With America, some people actually liked Robin/Elisabeth due to them bickering Like an Old Married Couple.
    • After Prison Tower, people began shipping Jeanne/Amakusa, even though in Fate/Apocrypha they're bitter enemies. This also extends to shipping Dantes with the other two and sometimes also including Jeanne Alter.
      • Fans noted that Jeanne Alter Lily also has some resemblance with Amakusa, as seen in her mini Twin Arm Big Crunch attack, thus they joked that she is actually Jeanne and Amakusa's kid.
    • The pairing of Jeanne Alter/Brynhild came from absolutely nowhere in the Da Vinci event. In there, fake Brynhild became very obsessed with the former, this pairing then become very popular.
    • Alter Altria (Lancer) with Nightingale in the Journey to the West event as they play the roles of a married king and queen. They even had a child (Mordred).
    • Medb and Scathach, which came almost out of nowhere and is a bit strange considering the fact that canonically Scathach views Medb as a Manchild with sexual outbursts.
    • Robin Hood and Ibaraki have been getting fanart together shortly after the Halloween 2016 event, due to Ibaraki enjoying the sweets that Robin shoots down her mouth.
    • Jeanne Alter and Saber Alter has been a popular pairing ever since the two bickered in the latter's interlude, then they kept bickering in the Christmas events, some of Jeanne Alter's My Room lines has implied interaction and the ship picked up even more steam with their interactions in Shinjuku, where they're working together and seem to be trying to make a quasi-Love Triangle with the protagonist. It's pretty much fanon thought they're in a Slap-Slap-Kiss and/or Kiss-Kiss-Slap relationship.
    • Avenger of Shinjuku (specifically Lobo) is shipped with Enkidu and Kintoki since the latter two have a close connection with animals (a wolf even summoned Enkidu in Strange Fake). It's less of a romantic relationship, though, and more of a master-pet bond. The former pair even got acknowledged in one of the summer 2017 Craft Essences.
    • Hijikata has a close relationship (possibly romantic) with Okita, yet it's not uncommon for him to be paired with Musashi or Carmilla since he's seen flirting with the two in his My Room lines. Andras is also not an unpopular pair for him.
    • Ozymandias and Arash which is based on their interactions in Fragments and Salomon, with Ozyamandias having high respect for Arash as a true hero. It was acknowledged with the Halloween 2017 event CE which depicted the two as incredibly close, using another Ho Yay-filled duo, Reinhard and Kircheis as the inspiration.
    • Ozymandias and Da Vinci because of a R-18 doujin that featured them as a couple and when they were featured together in a Camelot rate-up banner, fans joked that even DW ships them. In-game, he does compliment her for her beauty and intelligence and say he wants her to be his concubine, but apparently he doesn't impress her much.
    • Learning With Manga has Tamamo tease Altera and Helena as a couple...and instead of denying it, they constantly blush and get awkward around each other. Jack and Nursery Rhyme at one point capture both of them and declare them "Dad" and "Mom" respectively. Outside of memes, the two actually do have pretty good synergy with each other in gameplay, which helps fuel the ship further.
    • Gorgon and Assassin Paraiso/Chiyome due to the latter being curious and wanting to become friends with the Avenger during the Setsubun event believing they're under the same curse and Gorgon being creeped out. With Gorgon already having some Tsundere tendencies, this has lead to fanarts of them being shipped.
    • Since Arthur's new costume was released, people began to ship him with Nero Bride since they look like a new couple in their wedding. Sometimes with Amakusa as the priest.
    • Some fans have a tendency to ship Lancelot with Raikou, since the two have character traits revolving around being parents Explanation , as well as having similar hair and outfit colors. Becomes somewhat of Ascended Fanon during the Murder at the KOGETSUKAN event, which has Lancelot and Raikou are the head of the Violet family (as the father and mother, respectively). However, it turned out they are not really paired and only wrongly assumed both in and out-universe since it is later revealed that Lancelot's "wife" is actually Euryale, and Raikou is one of their "daughters".
  • Crazy Awesome: Gag Servants can fall into this, especially some of the wackier Altria variants; how else would one describe an evil genderbent King Arthur who's also a gunslinging biker maid in a swimsuit, or one who's also a Sith Lord?
  • Creator Worship: Whenever Kinoko Nasu is announced to be directly writing a story, the fans react with extreme joy that he'll make the story, be it a Singularity or other Nasuverse works, epic and awesome (as proven with Camelot to Solomon). Conversely, fans are more cautious whenever it's announced that the story will be written by either Yuuichiro Higashide (for the controversial state of Fate/Apocrypha, and while Orleans and Okeanos were still considered an improvement, it's still considered mediocre and paled to Nasu's works) or Hikaru Sakurai (for the controversial story elements of Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star and the Septem singularity, which even she considered lacking), but Nasu still lets them write stories, avoiding the more extreme version of the trope.
  • Crosses the Line Twice:
    • The Altera The Sun(ta) Servant from the "Netherworld Merry Christmas" event. Altera in an even more Stripperific outfit than usual, riding a sheep? Sigh, whatever, DelightWorks. The sheep can fly by shooting rainbows out of its butt? What, are we referencing ancient Nyancat memes now? The actual Noble Phantasm involves shooting sheep missiles using Candy Star Photon Ray and they... shoot out in a Macross Missile Massacre? What the hell? Wait...are the sheep missiles baa-ing in Mamiko Noto's own voice? That is the point at which you're likely to collapse from laughter when seeing Christmas Altera in action for the first time.
    • The mechanic of "selling" cards for QP and Mana Prisms is called Burning. And what's one of the Servants that you can obtain, and thus burn? Jeanne d'Arc.
  • Crossover Ship: As of late March 2018, fan works started having Belial together with Kiara in part of them both being similarly Too Kinky to Torture.

    D 
  • Demonic Spiders:
    • The wyverns that make up about 70% of the enemies in Orleans became infamous for this during the first few weeks of playing, where their insurmountable stacks of HP and simply unfair damage, especially from their Razor Wind attack, made anyone who didn't run parties of Kojirou or Jeanne almost completely helpless if their Command Spells were unavailable. They were eventually nerfed and are now almost laughably easy compared to back at launch, although they have maintained their irritatingly high critical rates, which can spell trouble for unprepared players.
    • Chimera-type enemies. They are commonly Berserkers, meaning that only few Servants can defend themselves against them, has higher crit chance than most enemies and their skill either boosts their own Attack and Crit Strength or everyone's Attack and Crit Strength. They also generally have more health than most other enemies would have, so good luck killing them in one turn even if they are Berserkers. To make things worse, they tend to pop as mini-bosses in event making farming harder.
    • The Enforcement Knights in Camelot are one of many foes that the player has to deal with, but they stand out as being some of the most frustrating enemies you'll come across. They have massive amounts of HP, making it seem as though they are better fitting as bosses, but after the first few times you fight the Saber ones, the game throws them in groups at you, while also introducing Lancer, Archer, Berserker, and Ruler variations. The main reason they are so hard to kill though is the skills for the Saber, Lancer, and Ruler variations titled "Oath of Destruction", which increases their Attack and Defense for two turns, and three turns respectively. While frustrating on its own, they have a tendency to spam the skill in rapid succession, resulting in often a single Knight having their Defense up so high that even level 90 and above Servants with class triangle advantage will do virtually no damage to them, even if a Noble Phantasm is used. Not to mention buffing their damage means they can casually kill most Servants, especially Berserkers. Not helping is that they have other skills that can increase critical hit chance, or their special attack damage. While Camelot has rough enemies, the Knights stand out as some of the most tedious enemies, and really hammer home how difficult the chapter will be.
    • The Lahmus that appear in the latter parts of Babylonia aren't just demonic in appearances, but also in gameplay. They have a large amount of bulk, even compared to the already tough enemies that you've faced earlier in the chapter, they can remove buffs at will at slap a defense debuff on you while they're at it, and if they manage to get their special attack off, they slap a massive Buster debuff, which will be especially crippling since most Sabers, that you'll probably bring to take advantage of the Tactical Rock–Paper–Scissors, have a Buster NP. And what's worse is that unlike most other enemies with their bulk, they'll attack in groups of at least 2, and once they start appearing, they'll be the most common enemy you'll face.
      • Their upgraded counterparts, the Bel Lahmus, are even worse. They couple NP drain with their buff removal, have even more HP, and they have an Arts debuff on their special attack instead to cripple any Archers that you might bring. The only saving grace is that you'll usually only have to fight one of them at a time. The one time you do fight a swarm of them, you do get King Hassan as a story support, and his insta-kill effects will be more likely to trigger against them.
  • Double Entendre:
    • Since the introduction of Medb, the Riding skill and the Rider class itself got a double meaning. Lancer Tamamo who is more sexually predatory than her Caster self has a Riding skill.
    • The confrontation of the protagonist's party against Ushi Gozen during Onigashima event has one scene with Kintoki stated he will beat her up and get his "mother" back. Her response..
    Ushi Gozen: Ah! No! This is not good. Even if I am your mother. Deep inside of me.. It's so hot.. So hot!!note 

    E 
  • Enjoy the Story, Skip the Game:
    • Response to the writing has been mostly positive, owing to the interesting narrative and the large amount of character interaction (especially Nasu-written ones). The gameplay, on the other hand, has been criticized for being full of repetitive and irritating fetch quests needed to power up Servants, poor game balance and an infamously frustrating gacha. For a long time, this naturally posed a problem for English speaking fans...at least until the below happened.
    • With the advent of the US version, this trope quickly occurred for most non-Japanese players as they were mainly playing to finally get access to story content that had been non accessible for two years.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Quite a lot. Having Loads and Loads of Characters helps.
    • Sasaki Kojiro was overshadowed by his fellow Servants during the original Fate/stay night, but his appearance here caused his popularity to skyrocket, thanks to his extreme usefulness in Orleans. His set of skills means he's also highly effective elsewhere when played right, making him a mainstay on many gimmick teams.
    • Scathach was a huge hit instantly after her reveal and in-game debut. Statistics showed that she made more money than any other Servant ever had before her debut. The director even admitted they made her Assassin version the welfare Servant of the 2016 summer event so players could at least have one version of her. However, despite her high popularity, she rarely plays a direct role in events and only featured as a supporting character in one chapter, America.
    • Marie Antoinette was also widely popular in the early days of the game because of her AoE Noble Phantasm, her upbeat demeanor, her interactions with Mozart, Sanson, d'Eon, and her superb design. She continues to be popular today.
    • The Japanese fandom loves Kiyohime, because of her cute design, yandere-ness, and educated stalker personality. She's one of the few Grand Order original Servants to get her own figure.
    • The Japanese fandom really loves Shuten-douji for her seductive, drunk, and teasing voice, provided by a very popular seiyuu. Her pairing with Kintoki is one of the more popular pairings among the fanbase, and notably one of the few pairings to actually appear in official merchandise.
    • Asterios and Euryale, after their interactions in the Okeanos chapter. Euryale's popularity was boosted again with her third skill, when players realized that effectively curb-stomp male enemies with Asterios' NP, which could be further damage-boosted with the aforementioned skill.
    • Several Type-Moon staff members have Kintoki pinned as their favorite Servant for the same reason as the fans: he's versatile against bosses and easily cleans up mobs for farming. The Onigashima event had a Rider version of him as the free Servant because he was so popular. And his Rider form is a Game-Breaker as well, so he's become even more popular.
    • Tesla has quickly become one of the Japanese fandom's biggest husbandos, which is especially impressive given he wasn't promoted heavily and isn't a standard Bishōnen. Blame his over-the-top yet polite personality.
    • In a similar case, Hektor enjoys some rather impressive popularity among female artists (which was acknowledged in the Da Vinci event) especially when you consider he's only a three-star Servant.
    • Edmond Dantes exploded in popularity in Japan, thanks to his design, personality and voice actor, capped off by being drawn by Dangan Ronpa artist Rui Komatsuzaki, with him basically being the closest thing to a Fate version of Komaeda (the edginess is his main selling point). Then players who weren't aware of his origin, read his book, The Count of Monte Cristo, and fell in love with him even harder. In fact, he became one of the most popular Servants original to the game with a large amount of fanart, which may have contributed to his event being rerun in late January 2017.
    • Jeanne Alter was an interesting concept, but in her first appearance, her design was simply a Palette Swap and she was merely an Arc Villain. Her popularity skyrocketed after the Da Vinci event, which fleshed out her character, gave her a new design and animations and made her Promoted to Playable, with players finding her to be the offensive Game-Breaker and her becoming a big money maker as a limited Servant.
    • Other than Tesla and already-heavily-loved EMIYA and Gilgamesh (along with his younger version), the Archer boys are really popular with the fandom.
      • Arjuna became very popular because of his chuunibyou mannerisms, voice actor, in-story lore, and his rivalry to fellow fan favorite Karna; thus he appears in many events.
      • Robin Hood and David are very much adored by the fandom, both due to their usefulness and designs. Robin in particular has become one of the main husbandos of the fandom if Pixiv is anyhing to go by.
      • Billy the Kid joined the club as well. A lot of people liked his Simple, yet Awesome design. It helps that he has one of the best ascension artworks in the game and he's a very effective unit for a 3*.
    • Due to her cute design and seiyuu, Medb exploded in popularity when America was released, eventually overshadowing all Servants that debuted along with her.
    • Similarly, despite her tiny actual role, Gareth has sparked quite a bit of fan interest because of how she was described in the "Camelot Zero" prologue that Nasu put on his blog. When combined with a few snatches from Garden of Avalon and the Camelot singularity itself, it paints a picture of an earnest, gorgeous young woman who was something of The Heart to the Round Table and an utter fangirl for Lancelot. A great number of fans would like to see her debut in the game proper so she can get more development.
    • Ereshkigal is a popular character despite not even being a playable Servant and only turning into a generic Massive Ghost when fighting the player. This is most likely due to a combination of her own possession of Rin like Ishtar (and taking the form of a good-looking Palette Swap of Rin), her endearing interactions with the Protagonist while pretending to be her sister, and her Heroic Sacrifice that greatly buffs the player's Servants to the point where defeating Tiamat is much easier. The Christmas 2017 event features her as the limited SSR.
    • Oddly enough, Proto Merlin is also popular among the fanbase, despite not having a canon design, for having Altria's seiyuu, which created a lot of fanart of her being a cute Caster Saber-face, and many fans want her to be summonable.
      • Merlin himself is fairly popular due to him being one of the best Servants (if not the best) in the game, being a well designed Bishounen and having a charming character.
    • King Hassan, though already a well-received NPC from Camelot, quickly exploded in popularity after his big One-Scene Wonder moment in Babylonia. He used his abilities to force the concept of death onto the immortal Tiamat - using an ability oddly similar to the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, no less - and his one playable stage solidified him as a very powerful Servant that can One-Hit Kill even with his normal attacks. Then he was released as a limited-time Servant, with his awesome artwork and voice (provided by Type-Moon veteran, Joji Nakata) clinching the deal for those who were thinking of rolling him.
    • During the Solomon chapter, the Fourth Demon Pillar, Barbatos, became the primary target of pretty much every player due to his highly sought after material drops. This had the side-effect of making him surprisingly popular with many players in the community, to the point he trended on Twitter, and many even mourned him when he was finally brought down hours later.
    • Berserker of El Dorado (Penthesilea) instantly became a fan favorite because of her muscular but still cute design and her voice actress' line delivery. Her backstory and Mad Enhancement with her sheer rage towards Greek male heroes has caused a lot of players to want to see her interact with Achilles, the person who defeated her.
    • Sengo Muramasa, despite his brief appearance as an NPC story Servant in Epic of Remnant's third chapter. Being a pseudo-Servant with Emiya Shirou and having a new EMIYA remix playing during his climatic appearance against Amakusa Shirou only heightened his popularity.
    • Tomoe Gozen also exploded in popularity after her debut in Shimosa, based on her beautiful design.
    • Lavinia became incredibly popular despite being only a NPC in Salem because of her Creepy Cute design which wouldn't be out of place in a Tim Burton movie and her adorable friendship with Abigail. Likewise Carter also enjoys a fair amount of popularity despite him being a generic NPC because of the implications he brings to the Nasuverse at the end of the story chapter.
    • A proportional fanbase also loves Ushiwakamaru thanks to her personality, her seiyuu and generally being a very useful Rider overall, especially for the rarity.
    • Mata Hari is just a 1-Star Servant, and a very weak one at that (although it makes sense with her background), and didn't play much role in the series (excepting in Salem, but only for more minor parts, Abigail is the focus after all). Despite this, she's still a well liked character thanks to her absolutely tragic backstory and her acceptance that her simple wish would never come true, making her one of the biggest Woobies amongst the Grand Order Servants yet still put up a cheerful personality, and for once, people actually don't mind her gigantic boobs and consider it her charm despite being obviously a deviation from history.
    • Florence Nightingale wasn't very well liked at first, as fans were extremely critical of her artwork and because she was released as a support Berserker at a time when "Use Berserkers to kill everything" was the go-to strategy. However, her popularity skyrocketed upon the release of the "E Pluribus Unum" singularity, when people finally got to see her dialogue within it in its entirety (the game was still very obscure outside of Japan when the chapter released in JP) and fell in love with her passion, dedication to medicine, and personality.
    • The Avenger of the First Lostbelt, Antonio Salieri has generally gotten nothing but praise from much of the fandom, owing to a combination of his awesome design, his uniqueness as a 3* Avenger, his excellent animation in-battle and his outright tragic nature as a character.
    • Likewise Patxi, the NPC who accompanies the Protagonist and Mash throughout the First Lostbelt and becomes the Sacrificial Lion of that story arc, has become a fan favorite, due to his amiable personality, his devotion for his old, sick mother, his character design and the fact that, despite the Despair Event Horizon he goes through, he still sticks with the protagonist and Mash until the very end, wanting for them to fight to save their world. A good boy through and through. It also helps that his name can be spelled like 'Patsy', both an endearing name and a character from a classic humor film.
    • Saint Martha only made an appearance in Orleans as an easily disposed of antagonist along with bit roles in events. But, her quirky personality, the Crazy Awesome implication that she defeated Tarrasque with her fists, and (once again) her voice actor made her an instant favorite, leading to her getting a Ruler form and being on the arcade game's roster.
    • Sakamoto Ryōma and Oryō quickly became the most popular Servant from the third GUDAGUDA. While they seem similar to Orion and Artemis, being a Servant that represents a humanoid being and an animal like companion, Sakamoto's earnest, and kind personality, alongside Oryō's Cute Monster Girl design and personality, made the Servant duo stick out to many. It also helps that their interactions with the player are both funny, and heartwarming at the same, plus them being a free servant means they are available easily.
  • Epileptic Trees: Thanks to the The Stinger of the 2018 New Year Livestream OVA where someone actually found the Time Throne and took one of Solomon's rings (why didn't the person also take the 9 other rings on the throne as well will be a mystery for the likely duration of Chapter 2) combined with this single frame in the opening for Part 2 showing a cloaked man wearing a tattered lab coat with white pants and shoes made many speculate that Dr Romani has returned from non-existence!! After what happened with Galahad in Camelot and the Downer Beginning of Part 2, is it any wonder why fans want to believe it's the good doctor?
  • Evil Is Cool:
    • The Evil-aligned Darker and Edgier Alter versions tend to be more popular than their vanilla counterparts, evident with Altria Saber Alter and Jeanne Alter. Though subverted with Cu Alter who is equally liked as his regular version, and EMIYA Alter in which fans still prefer the regular EMIYA.
    • It may or may not be coincidental that two of the biggest Breakout Characters of the game (Jeanne Alter and Ereshkigal) are both Chaotic Evil.
  • Evil Is Sexy:
    • Among the Saberfaces are Saber Altria (Alter), the older Lancer Altria (Alter), Rider Altria (Maid Alter), and Jeanne (Alter). Especially the older Lancer Altria (Alter). Subverted with Rider Altria (Santa Alter), who is trying to be a better person than her other forms, and Okita Alter, who, despite being an Alter Servant and Counter Guardian, is pretty friendly and even Adorkable at times. Downplayed with Mysterious Heroine X Alter, who is more Moe than outright sexy.
    • Cu Chulainn (Alter), according to Medb. She lusted after him in life, so she asked the Grail for an 'evil Cu Chulainn' who is her fantasy version of him.
    • The Dark Irisviel (Justeaze) that shows up at the end of the Fate/Accel Zero Order storyline is wearing an even more revealing outfit then the one worn by the Dress of Heaven.
    • Averted for EMIYA (Alter), because most players still prefer his normal form despite him being literally shirtless for his third form, since they don't like his artwork.
    • Beast III-R is the most human of the Beasts seen so far and she deliberately plays up her sexiness as part of her evil charm.

    F 
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: There's a few which are very prominent.
    • Nasu and others have said that ultimately, when it comes to the female protagonist, Mash's feelings are meant to be platonic. The vast majority of fans have thrown this directly out the window and tend to ship Mash/the female protagonist much, much harder than Mash/Ritsuka. It's to the point that even the Riyo comics joke about it.
    • Starting in 2017 in particular, the male protagonist actually tends to get shipped with Astolfo more often than Mash, with Ritsuka being a straight man (no pun intended) to Astolfo's flirtatious but good-natured antics or reversing the dynamic into one where Rituska plays the flirt. A combination of EoR chapter 2 and Fate/Apocrypha airing really helped pour fuel on the fire. This is another one that the Riyo comics occasionally nod to.
    • Jeanne Alter/Ritsuka and/or the female protagonist gets pretty high levels of support from the community as well, mostly due to a combination of Jeanne Alter's sheer popularity and her almost-painful amount of tsundere moments. A combination of her extremely elaborate Valentine's chocolate and final moments in Shinjuku where she asks for a dance really got the ball rolling.
      • To a lesser extent, other Breakout Characters like Scathach (even with her pairing with Cu as mentioned below) get this treatment with Ritsuka and/or the female protagonist as well.
    • Male protagonist/Gawain also has a strong fan following, partly to parallel the female protagonist's association with Saber Altria and partly because of Gawain's well-liked princely attitude.
    • Romani gets paired up with the female protagonist just as much as he does with da Vinci, citing his friendly attitude towards the protagonist and Tragic Romance potential after he sacrifices himself as major selling points.
    • Because of a certain comment he makes, Hijikata tends to get paired up with Carmilla fairly often, despite the basis for it being a single My Room line with no actual interaction in an event or story chapter (they even both make cameos in Summer 2017, but never share a scene).
    • Cu Chulainn x Scathach is similarly popular and have their fair share of fan art, due to their myth, the interesting pupil-teacher aspects of their relationship, and Scathach's fondness for her prize pupil conflicting with the fact that she wants to die by his hand note , in addition to both of them being extremely pleasing on the eyes, having similar yet fundamentally different abilities, and just generally for being two of the best Lancers in the game and fan favorites to boot.
    • Ironically, Cu Chulainn (Alter) x Queen Medb is perhaps even more popular, if their sheer amount of fan art is truly anything to go by. There's even a joke making the rounds that the slutty queen of Connacht is at least lucid enough to wish for a hulking demigod murderbeast she could also have lots of bed-breaking sex with, which may not be far from the truth considering Medb's utterly obsessive feelings towards Cu. Obviously some fans just ran with it, to the despair of no one; others tend to draw them more lightheartedly, showing Medb as a Smitten Teenage Girl and Cu Alter as a Kuudere of sorts.
    • EMIYA x Ishtar has become quite popular, due in part to the Mythology Gag nature of the ship (since Ishtar is using Rin's body as a vessel, and Archer x Rin was an extremely popular ship from Fate/stay night. And that's without getting into Emiya's true identity). Additionally, it helps that Emiya's Noble Phantasm serves as a hard counter to Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon.
    • Despite lack of interaction outside of Shinjuku, EMIYA Alter and Altria Alter are consistently drawn together, likely as a parallel to the canon pairing of Altria x Shirou from Fate/stay night and the obvious drama of their darker selves still loving each other.
    • On a similar note, Altria Alter is also commonly paired up with Jeanne Alter, thanks to the rivalry set up between them in Shinjuku, their interludes, and the Christmas events, as well as being popular characters of the same concept.
  • Fanwork-Only Fans: Quite a few fans of the series openly admit to knowing nothing about Fate or GO in general, but they do like the doujins and learn from fan content. This also contributed to convincing the producers to localize the game after they saw just how many FGO cosplayers there were at Anime Expo 2016 despite the lack of official presence in the West.
  • Fetish Retardant: The Hotter and Sexier nature of the character designs compared to previous entries in the series, and its heavy reliance on guest artists, resulting in designs of inconsistent quality, frequently invites this response.
    • Altera and Ushiwakamaru's respective outfits shows a gratuitous amount of skin that, to most fans, come across as ridiculous instead of attractive. Ironically, during the production of the game, their creators were both told to crank up the sexiness, as the initial designs were (presumably) considered "too tame" (for example, Ushi had a more proper kimono in her early design).
    • The Servant that is hit the absolute hardest with this trope is easily Boudica, whose starting outfit looks like something you would see in a porn game, which can be particularly jarring when you take her history into account. It doesn't help that her artwork is considered to be of very low technical quality compared to the rest of the Servants in the game. Fans of the Tales Series will also be irked by her very uncanny resemblance to Luke fon Fabre.
    • Artemis also gets this quite a lot, not helped because of how she's supposed to be the Virgin Goddess. What puts it into ridiculous territory however is that her fully powered design shows a very pronounced ass on Orion (her teddy bear). Fans are debating on whether it's an outright parody or not.
    • Anne Bonny and Mary Read are despised for their warped proportions, overly sexual outfits, and the latter's young-looking design. However, in an ironic twist Mary is actually the elder of the two by a decade or so, and is of a comparable size to Mash and actually taller than vanilla Altria. The card art merely exaggerates the height difference between the two (13 cm, or about 5 inches).
    • Lancer Altria (Alter) takes a lot of flak due to her very revealing design, with many players finding her breasts growing several sizes for poorly explained reasons to be DelightWorks reaching to provide fanservice in a game already filled with it. Her original profile being a bunch of boob jokes (instead of, say, mentioning that she is an Alter version of Altria) didn't really help. Her profile was updated to mention this and remove several of the jokes but the damage was already done.
    • Shuten-douji's outfit consists of nothing but an open kimono and painted-on underwear. Combining that with how young she looks, many western fans greatly dislike her design.
    • Raikou's ascended look puts a huge emphasis on her unnaturally large breasts and ludicrously long legs for fanservice, but ends up detracting from the rest of her design and looking just plain weird.
    • Assassin of Nightless City looks incredibly young and, with her second ascension and beyond, wears almost nothing to cover her upper body besides an open robe and a very thin bow-tied ribbon to cover her breasts.
    • Some people who like Abigail's initial design are quite disappointed with her Stripperiffic ascensions, as she starts with a full-body cloak, while the second tier turns it into several thick ribbons that resemble Whip Swords, which become progressively fewer in number as she ascends further. The fact that she's explicitly stated to be only 12 years old in her profile (unlike other youthful-looking characters who are Older Than They Look) doesn't help. Others however like it due to said ascensions giving her epic animations.
    • Like most examples of young-and-cute servants, Illya gets hit with this as well for her last ascension. While she starts with her student uniform (sensible enough, especially due to her backstory) and ascends to her regular magical girl outfit and then 2wei form, the makers apparently had no design left for the last upgrade, so her final ascension has her wearing a nearly see-through white dress and nothing under it, which is the outfit some people took objection to.
    • The "Dangerous Beast" Craft Essence depicts Mash wearing basically nothing but nipple pasties and string. You just end up dwelling on things like whether her anatomy makes sense, how shiny her skin is, and why Mash of all people would wear that.
    • Ou'i Katsushika, in her second ascension, lets her obi off of her shoulders to bare cleavage, which may be Fanservice in and of itself but remember that she's dressed like this in front of her father Hokusai (the octopus critter who accompanies her). In her third ascension, she gains a dress that doesn't cover much, and at this point she's not just baring herself in front of her dad, said dad has taken over her body. Furthermore, said dress looks very alien in nature (and may well be some sort of sentient entity not of this world) and the lotus flower hair ornaments become these rather icky-looking alien pod things.
  • Friendly Fandoms:
    • There's a good deal of overlap between players of this and Granblue Fantasy. Both are mobile RPG games with Loads and Loads of Characters, many of which fall under Mr. Fanservice or Ms. Fanservice, each with their own separate voice actor.
    • Similarly, there's a fair bit of overlap with the Fire Emblem Heroes fanbase, especially in English. Both feature, well, heroes who are well-loved and FE often takes cues from mythology, and the games are different enough in gameplay that they don't overlap or compete too much with each other.
  • Furry Fandom: Thanks to Lostbelt No. 1, there's a portion of the players admitting to being this. Having a well-written Wolf Man character definitely helped.

    G 
  • Game-Breaker: There are several, but if you think you'll have easy access to them, you'll have to roll the gacha for them first and cross your fingers for the best. The chief offenders of the trope are:
    • Zhuge Liang (Waver) is one of the best support characters in the game. His skills are all buffs and using each skill fills the NP bar of whichever party member he used it on. Two of his skills are party-wide general attack and defense buffs. His NP stuns the enemy, afflicts poison, lowers defense and most importantly reduces NP charge which combined with his NP-filling skills and Arts setup could be easily spammed against the enemy. He doesn't even need CE to function greatly in any team, and his personal Bond CE is just a cherry on top of all the other buffs he provides. The US version retains all of these updates from day 1, making him the most sought-out after Servant by newbie players. He also works extremely well with Merlin and if the two of them are on the same team most of the game seems easy even fights against That One Bosses and Levels mentioned there.
    • Jeanne Alter. With her Avenger class with a natural 1.1 damage modifier that is only currently resisted by only one Servant who's event-locked at that, she can deal lots of damage with her NP or her normal attacks, boosted by her 2 buffs (her third skill also gives her one turn of invincibility). When she gets critical attacks, she can rack up even more insane amounts of damage. Even more, she can greatly boost the damage of any Dragon-trait Servants in the party! Oh, did we mention she has perfect synergy with Merlin, detailed below?
    • Merlin is what happens when you fuse the best parts of about a dozen decent to already good Servants together. He provides 20% NP charge and 20% attack to the party with his first skill, his second skill is full party invulnerability, star gen up and enemy crit chance down with a moderate cooldown and the third skill provides 50% Buster up, 3000 Max HP increase and a staggering 100% Critical Damage bonus for three turns, apart from the Critical Damage. He has a passive that generates 5% NP per turn and at NP1 provides 1000 healing, 5% NP charge and 5 critical stars to the party per turn for five turns. As a result, if you have two Merlins on the field you can have anywhere from four to six of his NP going at any one time. Believe it or not, this is actually him after a nerf from the NPC version in Babylonia, which also provided a 3000 direct heal on top of the heal per turn. As a result, he basically defines the metagame now with various gimmicks seemingly targeted directly at stopping him, such as a Saber Alter Memorial Battle where she's programmed to attack Casters exclusively before any other target. They aren't enough.
    • While Caster Tamamo-no-Mae isn't too much of a Game-Breaker on her own, she happens to have a very useful NP that can recover health (at NP1 provides 1000, 2000 after her First Interlude), reduce party skill cooldowns by one, and restore at least 25% NP for her team. Her skills include reducing a charge on a single enemy, buffing her own defense, boosting her allies' Arts card performance and, if her Second Interlude is completed, a bit of their HP as well. This allows her to drastically increase the utility of any Arts Servants on your team, whether they be single-target damage dealers (Squirtoria), multi-target damage dealers (Surfer Mordred), debuffers (Shuten-douji), or supports (Jeanne, Mash).
    • Jeanne d'Arc also made the jump from Tier-Induced Scrappy to near Game-Breaker due to her NP upgrade combined with her three Arts cards loadout: the stun is removed and it also includes debuff removal. Team her up with Mash and Tamamo and you have a team that is nearly impossible to kill.
    • Sakata Kintoki's Rider incarnation, in part due to the massive advantage of being a free servant with extremely accesible NP5, is probably the main reason why Quick-based Servants haven't been completely overshadowed by their Buster and Arts-focused counterparts. With the insane amount of synergy he has with his attacks, NP gain, critical star gain, and a skill that charges half of his NP gauge you'll have him running enemies over repeatedly if he's ever given a chance. Unlike the reliance on Mana Burst type skill on most servant at the time, his quick buff lasts 3 turn on a competitive value, while his NP adds even more quick buff which can be boosted to a much higher amount when boosted with overcharge. Under optimal condition, Kintoki Rider is able to throw multiple optimal single target Noble Phantasm over the duration of his buffs.
    • Amongst all the Mystic Codes, the Chaldea Combat Uniform is far and away considered the best by a wide margin. While its first two skills (a partywide attack boost and a one-turn stun) are solid, its true Game-Breaker status is all thanks to its unique third skill, Order Change, which allows you to swap one of your frontline Servants for one of your backups. This might not sound like much on paper, but it grants you an extremely high level of versatility by giving you access to your entire party without waiting for one of your Servants to die. Not only is this Mystic Code the focal point of nearly every 3-turn grinding strategy out there (mostly by letting you swap in a Servant with a CE like K-scope or Imaginary Numbers), but also lets you summon a powerful defense skill on demand to counter an enemy NP (like Mash and Merlin's invincibility skills, or Achilles' Bond CE). For a Mystic Code that was intended to focus on pure offense, it can do that as well as much more.
  • Genius Bonus: Or, at least, definitely bonuses for people who like to read The Other Wiki in their spare time.
    • The design for Saint Quartz is based on an illustration Leonardo da Vinci did for the mathematician Luca Pacioli's De divina proportione.
    • "School of Chaldea", "Holy Maiden Leading Chaldea" and "Empieta" are a couple of slightly less obvious art references than the Mona Lisa.
    • And there's also the fact that a number of Servants are based on lesser-known historical figures. Do nightmares about Gilles de Rais keep you up at night? Is Nitocris your favorite vengeful Egyptian queen? This may be the game for you.
  • Goddamned Bats:
    • Ghosts. They really like to drain your Servants' NP gauges, which is really annoying especially when you're working your way up to a boss. They were also known for the longest time to have needlessly long attack animations until around Halloween 2017 where their animations were sped up.
    • Berserker enemies in general, especially if they all prioritize killing one particular Servant.
    • One Grimoire type enemy has the ability to apply a Guts buff to any enemy, dragging out fights much longer than usual.
    • Agartha introduced the Atrocious Officers, which have a skill that applies a taunt to any Servant, causing them to attack only that one Servant, which can lead to lots of damage racked up very fast for whichever poor sod that was targeted.
    • Salem has the Elder Ghouls which spams curse debuff and it stacks.
  • Goddamned Boss:
    • Hektor in the Okeanos chapter loves to use and abuse his Proof of Friendship skill, which has two obnoxious effects: It stuns the target (and since he gets up to three actions per turn, he can make you completely lose your turn even with a full party), and it reduces their NP gauge, which is especially a problem for Servants who don't have a double- or triple-capacity NP gauge yet since they will have a hard time trying to fire their Noble Phantasms off.
    • Marie in the 40 AP Rider Daily Quest has a boatload of HP and will keep spamming her invincibility skill (which comes with healing, just to rub salt in the wound).
    • Mata Hari in GUDAGUDA Order - Assassin stage. She has a huge amount of HP, a skill that charms any enemy regardless of gender, and her Noble Phantasm charms any gender. Luckily her attacks aren't that damaging, being a 1* Servant.
    • Dragons as bosses are annoying in general. Their attacks hits all Servants at once, their critical attacks hurts a lot, and their Earth attribute makes them hit harder against Assassin Servants who mostly have Man attribute and low HP in general.
    • Giant boars. They're typically Berserkers with enormous HP and always have AoE attacks. Worse, being gold-level enemies, they get to attack three times per turn which means your team will be stomped by three high-damaging AoE attacks each turn.
    • Servants and monsters at certain classes can count if given HP high enough to make battles longer, especially in challenge quests.
      • Rider bosses tend to be difficult due to their type-advantage against most support units (since most of them are Casters) and the effective counter against them, the Assassin Servants has inherent lower than average HP and attack power.
      • Assassin bosses are also hard to handle to the their high innate critical rates, short NP bars, and the effective counter against them, Casters have low attack power and only few of them are designed as boss fighters note . One may try bringing a Berserker against them, only to die from critical hits. Farming these bosses takes longer than other classes.
      • Alter Ego bosses lacks true weaknesses to exploit besides the Mutual Disadvantage Berserkers and the Knight classes which are only defensively advantageous. They can also tear apart Caster supports.
  • Good Bad Bugs:
    • There's a bug that causes a BBA or BBQ chain to act like the last card generated overkill, which can also trigger for real for a second overkill bonus. This went largely unnoticed until people noticed that Musashi, who already had very good NP gen, could go from 0 to full with a single well timed BBA chain when using her first skill. DW seemingly has no intention of fixing the bug because it became one of the primary draws for what was already becoming a very popular character.
    • King Hassan's Noble Phantasm initially skipped over the death animation of whatever enemies it killed, making it look like he just annihilated them completely, something akin to a Dynamic Kill in Super Robot Wars. After it was patched, fans agreed that it was a cool visual effect and prefer it to the normal death animations, and so the effect was patched back in.
    • Some players consider a recent bug that removes the frame of Servant and Craft Essence cards when zoomed in as this, since this bug shows the full artwork of the cards, especially those with good artwork. Instead of being patched, the developers decided to turn it into an actual feature.
  • Growing the Beard:
    • The game got off to a rocky start to say the least, with problems including a wildly hated gacha, writing that was mostly mixed, poor game balance and a slew of technical issues that lead to many people being unable to play the game half the time. Around Okeanos, Delight Works' staff got the handle of managing a mobage and ironed out the numerous balance and technical problems. The writing also improved dramatically, with stories that actually incorporated all the Servants of the story into the plot and giving them time to shine. And while the gatcha itself hasn't improved much, there has been a series of events that give out really solid 4* Servants as prizes for beating them, meaning even an F2P player can acquire a team of not just gold Servants, but good gold Servants.
    • With the Palingenesis system, F2P players can now stand toe-to-toe with P2P players with gold Servants. Most lower rarity Servants' usefulness, even if they had a good skillset, were hindered by their low levels and stats. With the increased level caps through Palingenesis, now lower rarity Servants can stand on par with gold Servants, their skills and low cost making them more effective than some gold Servants.
    • In general, between the America and Camelot releases, and the period after, saw the beard get especially thick and lush. The starting experience was made much better, with a more pre-determined initial roll that guaranteed one of a number of fan favorite 4* Servants, the cost of the premium gacha itself was brought down, the bond system was expanded with a final reward of a unique Craft Essence for a Servant if you use one diligently, and the developers began a policy of re-running major events at major landmarks, to make sure newer players didn't completely miss out on some of the good, free 4* Servants from older events.
    • Another point for the game was the decision for the game to embrace its story-heavy direction, which happened during Camelot and Babylon singularity. Word of God suggested a heavy re-write was done during this period, and it shows. Camelot had a significantly longer storyline with a more fluid pacing of the story which includes a noticable reduction of filler fights. This comes into its own by Babylon which introduced fightless arrows on the story node, significantly reducing the amount of filler story content.
    • Interestingly, part of the reason GO's English version has done all right for itself so far is that it launched with these improvements already in place - while some of the Strengthening Quests and Interludes need to wait for appropriate chapters, Palingenesis and the Camelot-era system improvements were already in place. This meant people in NA could do things like rock a level 85 Cu Chulainn as early as the launch of Okeanos!

    H 
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • The "Burning" mechanic allows you to sell / trade Cards for QP and Mana Prisms, and this includes Servant cards - anyone of them. This basically means that you can burn Jeanne d'Arc.
    • In the Camelot Singularity, Dr Roman was laughing at Cursed Armed Hassan's poor (when you consider his profession) record of having a failure once every six months. The latter's response?
      Cursed Armed Hassan: Shuuuut up! You don't even know if you'll be alive six months from now!!note 
  • Heartwarming in Hindsight: After The Reveal regarding Dr. Roman, all of the Craft Essence artwork of him enjoying fireworks with Fou, engaging in Halloween silliness by dressing as a vampire and bantering with da Vinci, eating oranges and interacting with his favorite idol is a lot more heartwarming as this is the life that Solomon chose as a normal human of his own volition, enjoying it to the fullest. note 
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Fan artists for the longest time have been drawing artwork of a "what if" of Jeanne Alter, Cu Alter, and EMIYA Alter. They're now playable characters in this game.
    • In addition to the above, a fan-made game featuring Altria and the other Arthurian myth characters featuring Merlin as a Biseinen with long, white hair, blue eyes and a glowing tattoo. Lo and behold, aside from the tattoo, that's exactly how Merlin's official appearance is in the Nasuverse.
    • Similarly, there has been quite a few fan-arts of a "What If?" of Julius Caesar as a Saber. On Danbooru, most of them are Saberclones. And then the official design is revealed and Caesar is definitely not a Saberclone. On the flipside, some thought he'd be a Bishōnen. Turns out he's a fat dude in this game, but then Cleopatra reveals that the Caesar she knew in life was a Bishōnen.
    • Assassin Kiritsugu was propagated as a possible Servant for several years in fanfiction and fanart, and it's been legitimized in Fate/Accel Zero Order.
    • Before Tesla's debut in the game, we had a heroic spirit famous for something related to electricity in another unrelated series. The spirit's name? Edison. Both Takeru (in Edison form) and Tesla fought with electrical projectiles, and even both Edison Parka and Tesla was used by the arc's villain in their debut.
    • Edison's debut has him as a Caster. Kamen Rider Wizard has the secondary Rider being lion-themed while still being a wizard; in other words, still a Caster.
    • In Fate/kaled liner Prisma Illya 3rei manga Chapter 35, Shirou refers to the Black Keys he got from Kirei as Craft Essences (basically toys). He then complains about how they're worthless junk and how he paid lots of cash for them, reflecting many players' reactions to rolling them.
    • The pink haired girl in the opening cinematic was thought to be Nightingale, the main ally of the America chapter. Later, Nightingale is revealed to be a different Servant and the pink haired girl is revealed to be Medb, the main villain of the America chapter.
    • The Onigashima event features a Rider-class Kintoki as an event Servant and lots of players are quick to point out that the belt he wears looks just like a Rider Belt. Well, this isn't his first time going to a place called Onigashima. Explanation 
    • The game director's name is Yosuke Shiokawa. It means "river of salt". Now we know why F/GO players are salty. Then it turns out the marketing guy's name means "stone cellar" and the company chairman's name means "money valley". Well played, DW.
    • St. Martha's Interludes and events that she appeared in keep bringing up that she actually likes to beat enemies with her fists. Come "Chaldea Summer", the Ruler St. Martha mainly uses Good Old Fisticuffs.
    • After the inclusion of EMIYA and Dress of Heaven in Fate/Accel Zero Order, fans joked that someday they could reunite the whole Emiya family in the game. And now, voila, there's Illya and Chloe ready to join their parents (and brother). And the bonus level has them all together (plus Heracles).
    • There was a running gag among Fate fans that the "Riding" skill involves "riding a man" (this caused Irisviel, of all people, to snicker back then in Fate/Zero). In her Interlude, Medb mentions this as one of her qualifications for the Rider class.
    • In Fate/Apocrypha, after summoning Mordred, Kairi asks to confirm that she's a Saber-class servant, to which Mordred sarcastically asks if she looks like an Assassin. Kairi then jokingly comments that an armored Assassin with a sword wouldn't be so bad. Fast-forward and we now have the Grand Assassin, King Hassan, who wears a full set of heavy armor and wields a sword.
    • Chapter 24 of the Fate/Grand Order gag manga has Altera having a nightmare thanks to the female protagonist sitting on her thinking that it gives the person being sat upon bad dreams. She jumps into a world where F/GO has a PVP mode and all the best rewards are only given to the top players aka the ranking system and event ranking systems, which you recognise is one of the most hated mechanics in mobages or pretty much games in general. Cut forward to April 2017, the GUDA GUDA Meiji Revival is pretty much a player base civil war with different rewards on either side. Thankfully, it's a ladder system like Honnoji so everyone gets the rewards on both sides, the only difference is which of the higher rewards of the winning side will be obtained.
    • In Fate/GUDAGUDA Order Drama CD, Nobu asks DW for a 5* "Demon Lord" version of her with Medusa saying that it wouldn't happen. Jump forward to Babylonia, in an ironic twist, we were introduced to Medusa Gorgon, which is pretty much Medusa's "Demon Lord" form.
    • When battling Ereshkigal, one may wonder why the Babylonian goddess of the dead is placed under the Lancer designation. Then you realize that the fans' observations about how "being Lancer is suffering", "E-Rank Luck", and the "Lancer died! You aren't human!" phrase in Carnival Phantasm have not gone unnoticed by DW.
    • Speaking of Lancer, it's ironic that in Fate/Stay Night and Carnival Phantasm, Cu Chulainn always dies, but in Fate/Grand Order, he's nearly unkillable if you play him correctly. (And we are talking about any of his forms/alternate classes.)
    • Another Carnival Phantasm-related matter: Saber Alter Maid is part of the upcoming 2017 Summer event. "I am a cute gothic lolita maid waitress, sir!" Indeed.
    • In Farewell to 2016 - GUDAGUDA Order, Nero complains that she didn't get a swimsuit version for Summer 2016. Summer 2017 has her in the line-up.
    • EMIYA's line about him not wanting to be paired with gold Archers and blue Lancers now gains another layer of hilarity because of Parvati's release. It's either he can't get along with Gil (gold Archer) and Cu (blue Lancer) or that he doesn't like being reminded of his trouble with women, namely Ishtar (Rin, also a gold Archer) AND Parvati (Sakura, also a blue Lancer).
    • During the first Christmas event, Santa Alter gives d'Eon a maid outfit. During the Agartha singularity, it's exactly the kind of outfit they end up wearing.
    • Ereshkigal has always been a teased and awaited Servant ever since Babylonia release. To the extent that Cirnopedia and various resource calculators would jokingly put her in the line-up as if she was a normal Servant under the Lancer class due to her boss fight in the Babylon singularity. One year later, Ereshkigal would be the featured SSR in Christmas 2017, complete with the correct Class.
    • As noted below in the "M" folder, a lot of fans have come to the general consensus that the game's creator is none other than one Kotomine Kirei due to how much the paid gacha favors Black Keys (which are pretty much his signature weapon) and CEs with him on it. Guess who shows up as a part of the Clock Tower team?
    • During the first Christmas Event, Astolfo, who was making an Early-Bird Cameo, became the Butt-Monkey just because he didn't show up and fight during the Orleans singularity, and wasn't even summonable in the event, with his appearance being little more than a footnote. Semiramis, a fellow Apocrypha servant, didn't show up during Babylonia, yet not only does she debut as a summonable servant in the gacha of the 2018 Valentine's event (where she makes her debut proper), but she's the focus of the event.
    • This is not the first time Leonardo da Vinci and Vlad the Impaler being in the same series.
    • When Anastasia first appeared, some players half jokingly believe that instead of her being a Romanov, she was actually a gender-flipped Ivan the Terrible using his wife's name. Not only does Ivan actually appear in the Anastasia chapter, but Anastasia used the fact that she has the same name as his wife to manipulate him.
    • When the Nasuverse Knights of the Round Table are crossed over with Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Fou is often cast as the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog. During the climax of Salomon, it turns out these fan artists were closer to the truth than they themselves realized.
    • During the release of Semiramis, someone made a fanart of making fun on how Atalante was at the time the only Red Faction servant who has Quick NP and bullied Achilles into getting a Quick NP just so she wouldn't be lonely, much to Achilles' distress. And when Achilles gets into FGO... he's a Quick-based Rider, so maybe he really took Atalante's advice at heart.
    • Marie Antoinette's "Whassup! My homies!" dialogue from the NA localization has now become this, because in another mobile game, Marie Antoinette is depicted as having gone Totally Radical.
    • Raikou, voiced by Haruka Tomatsu, is a famed oni slayer who had oni blood herself. Two years later, Tomatsu would voice Zero Two, a Hunter Of Her Own Kind who has the appearance of and is referred to as an oni.
    • The introduction of Katsushika Hokusai, actually a pair of characters featuring Hokusai in an octopus form and his daughter Ou'i wielding a giant paintbrush, was already this trope for Splatoon, which has a brush weapon called the Hokusai in the Japanese version (Octobrush in other versions). Then Splatoon 2 later got the Octo Expansion DLC which allows you to play as an Octoling. And then go into multiplayer as an Octoling wielding the Hokusai.
    • The day after Napoleon, a French Heroic Spirit, was released in JP, France managed to win the 2018 FIFA World Cup. For added irony, Napoleon's reign in Real Life began to crumble after he failed in his invasion of Russia, and France managed to win a World Cup taking place in Russia.
  • Ho Yay:
    • Due to the game often using the same script for both male and female protagonist, the female MC sometimes has the option to flirt with female Servants.
    • Anne Bonny and Mary Read. The two are always together, their NP subtitle is Bond of Lovebirds, and their final art shows them in a very intimate position. Finally, Mary spends "Chaldea Summer" full of jealousy because Anne attracts the Male Gaze from everyone.
      • When you build the showers for Chaldea Summer Part 1, Anne and Mary want to see if they work. Under the excuse of "having as much eyes as possible to check around", not only they do decide to go in together, but also drag the MC along with them. The thing is, the showers don't have that much space available. So when the 3 go in together, and if you're playing as the female protagonist, she finds herself caught in a flesh sandwich between the two pirates.
    • In her second Interlude, Altera acknowledges her marriage to Kriemhild. Although she actually doesn't really care.
    • The male-dominated list of Servants with the Byrnhildr's Beloved trait includes two stand-out exceptions: Ushiwakamaru and Okita Alter.
    • The Brynhild created by Jeanne Alter lusts for the latter.
    • Carmilla is still only attracted to women as shown by her NP which does extra damage to women.
    • In Medusa's Interlude, if you're playing as the female protagonist, Medusa will say that she doesn't mind dating women.
    • Hassan of Serenity's NP animation is her seducing and kissing a target to death. Using it against a female enemy plays out the exact same way it does for male enemies.
      • A very Ho Yay bug happened when Serenity uses her NP on Swimsuit Altria. Instead of kissing her lips, she kissed Altria's thigh instead. It was patched out though.
    • Chloe is more attracted to girls (and Illya), as seen in her Profile and My Room lines.
    • In Medb's interlude, Mash seems a bit too interested in learning about how Medb's Noble Phantasm works- and is also the first to suggest fighting her, because she wants to see it in action. So much for her only being interested in the player character if they're male...
    • Marie Antoinette has some... interesting interactions with Jeanne d'Arc in the France chapter chock full of Innocent Innuendo, with her often commenting on Jeanne's beauty and figure.
    • Abigail/Lavinia pairing became very popular after the Salem chapter, as they have a Romantic Two-Girl Friendship going on there.
  • Hype Backlash: Several Servants and events have had high expectations for them before being deflated by the in-game release.
    • Astolfo in the White Day event was more hyped than Shirou and Ko-Gil, partly due to his Ensemble Darkhorse status and for the game finally receiving a gold male Rider. When players tried him, they weren't happy to see how underwhelming he performs for a 4*.
    • Iskandar is another similar case. The hype of 8 months waiting for him exploded when it was announced that he would have his own event as a collaboration with Fate/Zero and it would have an Alternate Ending written by Gen Urobuchi. But players found his average skills and stats to be disappointing. And he was quickly eclipsed in desire for the new Servants when it was revealed that Irisviel was added as a free Servant and Angra Mainyu was finally available in the Friend Point gacha. Not to mention that his event came right after Jeanne Alter's debut event, meaning that the NA version players would more likely prepare for her instead of him.
    • The Ibaraki-douji event was hyped as the first raid event, leading to expectations for a much different event that wasn't grind and farm for currency using CEs to help you along the way. Chinese datamining and previous events had led several players to believe that Ibaraki would be a free SR Servant when she wasn't even available in the gacha.
    • The Prisma Illya event was hyped because it was marketed as a crossover with the 3rei season of the anime/manga. This implied to fans that popular characters that had made their debut in that arc, such as Angelica, Beatrice, and especially Miyu's brother, had a chance to become playable Servants. But, characters that were expected to be playable like Miyu and Angelica only appear in CEs and some don't even get that chance. Gameplay-wise, many players found the revamped raid system tedious and annoyed by the lack of Servants giving a boost to item drops.
    • Zig-Zagged with Enkidu. Many people were pretty excited for him ever since he appeared in the leak, due to him being having a big role in Fate Strange Fake and his relationship with Gilgamesh. When he was released, his QQQAB card deck and his questionable stats and skillset made people disappointed in him, while also being overshadowed by servants like Merlin, King Hassan, and Gorgon. However he has a lot of defenders, citing that he can generate a lot of stars while having the Lancer attack modifier, decent NP gain, and a strong NP.
    • Arthur. The fanbase had built up hype over his release, as he's a popular male character and his personality contrasting Altria's is also well-liked. Unfortunately, many find his skillset to be subpar and only effective for fighting giant enemies... but those type of enemies only appear one at a time, while his NP is an AoE attack. He also has the derided Instinct skill.
    • The first set of new Strengthening Quests of 2018 hid the class of its last Servant, with the only clue being it's 5-star rarity. Many hoped and expected a 5-star Servant who is suffering from Power Creep to receive a Balance Buff, particularly the original Saber Altria. However, the mystery Servant turned out to be Meltlilith. While one of her skills certainly needed improvement, even some of her fans agreed that other, older Servants were in higher need of a buff. Many players were disappointed by this and deemed it a wasted chance to fix the power creep, to the point it trended on Twitter for a while.
      • Even before the announcement of the Strengthening Quests, the announcement for the 12M Download Campaign also had the banner Servant hidden as a silhouette. As all previous Download banners showed the featured Servant in advance, many speculated that the silhouette would be a new Servant altogether (and a few previous Download banners had indeed come with completely new Servants at the time, like Kintoki). A week later, and the mystery Servant was revealed to be Kiara, with a rerun of the CCC gacha (minus Meltlilith). Suffice to say, the fans did not take the announcement well, since many consider Kiara a Tier-Induced Scrappy, and because they felt hiding the identity of the banner Servant when it was going to be an already existing one was completely pointless.
    • Okita Alter. Like Arthur, she is also one of most hyped Servants prior to her release but she turned out to be a sub-par unit due to having multi-target NP and her Alter Ego affinity hinders her effectiveness as farming unit; her skills are mostly offence-oriented but with serious mismatch (A single Evade and NP Power boost in the same skill) and only benefits herself, making her inferior compared to other gacha Alter Egos for at least having better staying power. To make things worse, some players consider her writing in her debut event as bland (though largely stayed faithful to her settings), to the point that they think she is only introduced for fanservice and nothing else. That her event also saw the release of Sakamoto Ryoma and Oryo, who became major fan favourites and had the benefit of being a Free Servant, does not help.

    I 
  • Incest Yay Shipping:
    • There's a real lot of people who ship Karna and Arjuna, with it being fairly popular because of their rivalry and pretty boy looks.
    • If you are trying a look for fanart of Solomon on Pixiv, good luck on avoiding logs that doesn't imply he's shipped with his own father David.
    • Even though he hasn't appeared in the game yet, Lancelot's son Galahad is frequently paired up with this game's version of his father. Ironically, Lancelot is drawn having regular fatherly moments with Mash herself.
    • And let's not even go into Mordred and Altria, whether it be the original, the Lily version (Mordred acting Tsundere around Lily only fueled this ship), either one of the Lancer versions (Lancer Alter tends to be used more since the "Journey to the West" event casted them as father and son). And Arthur outright says that this Mordred is cute (doesn't help that his world's Mordred is a Yandere).
  • It Was His Sled:
    • It was common knowledge that Mash's fused with Galahad of the Round Table, a secret exposed by datamining her bond profile, which quickly spiraled out of control. It's lampshaded in Camelot that everyone already knew before Sherlock reveals it.
    • Several unreleased Servants' profiles, Noble Phantasms, skills, personality, and even voice actors are already known after being shown in other Type-Moon media.
    • While we still assiduously spoiler tag it all here, the existence of Grand Servants, "Solomon", the true nature of the entity claiming to be Solomon, the existence and nature of the Beasts, various relevations about Dr. Roman and even who individual Beasts are has all been dreadfully hard to keep under wraps, especially for NA fans, who are two years behind the plot if they're playing the NA version exclusively but can easily stumble into things like Beast entries on many of the game's wikis and whatnot.

    J 
  • Junk Rare: As one might expect of an RPG utilizing a gacha system, there are several 4-5 star Servants that are either bad, too situational, or underwhelming (see Tier-Induced Scrappy below). There are 1-2 star Servants that are actually better than their 4-5 star counterparts. And the chief offender is of course, Angra Mainyu. He's maybe the rarest Servant in the game, but his gameplay sucks hard.

    L 

    M 
  • Memetic Badass:
    • Sasaki Kojirou - The Savior of France, due to being a common but incredibly useful Servant who can trivialize the entirety of the Orleans singularity by cutting through the dragons with ease. A fandom Badass Boast also came out of it:
      • This has become something of an Ascended Meme - if the Moon-Viewing event is anything to go by, Kojirou's hanging out with Saint Georgios and Saint Martha (and amusingly, Siegfried isn't invited, despite his role in Orleans being pertinent in bringing down Fafnir), respectively a legendary dragonslayer and dragon tamer. Seems they're letting him into a little clique of theirs.
      • Amusingly, Martha can't stop herself from belittling his achievements as a "dragonslayer" once it's implied he's there after Tarasque. And after that, Mash asks herself why he's there instead of Siegfried.
      • Not to mention, when grailed to level 100, he can actually defeat just about every boss from Camelot onward and has become a mainstay in many players' Servant parties due to his one-star cost allowing more wiggle room for more powerful CEs and Servants. Here are 2 players using him in their parties blowing away Tiamat, Goetia and even Kiara!! Here are a few examples. As fans say:
    • Riyo Gudako. The female protagonist from Riyo's official gag manga has become one, as she casually bullies Servants, bosses, and even Solomon. Many people joke that she's the true Ultimate Evil that will doom humanity and the True Final Boss of FGO as a whole. Becomes Hilarious in Hindsight as she's the Arc Villain of "All the Statesmen".
  • Memetic Loser:
    • Parvati has been treated as one by the fandom not long after being introduced to the game. Common sticking points against her stem from her body type, face, and artwork being incredibly similar - if not outright traced - from Boudica and Jaguar Man's artwork (both Servants having been drawn by the same artist), which consequentially has the side effect of making her lack any resemblance to Sakura, having a lower rarity in comparison to the other pseudo-Servant Fate/stay night heroines (she only has a SR rarity; even Illya has a SSR rarity), and has a outdated Quick-focused skillset.
    • Eric Bloodaxe and the Phantom of the Opera, for being Bronze-rarity Servants without traits such as popularity derived from a previous Fate work (Spartacus, Shakespeare), a memorable role in the story (Asterios), a touching backstory and enticing looks (Mata Hari) or the potential to be a usable unit (Kojiro, Hans, Leonidas, Georgios) that make them noteworthy (barring Bloodaxe's hilariously repetitive biography, which is treated by fans as a point of mockery), leading them to be rather unremarkable in a cast full of colorful characters. Phantom's appearance in the arcade was a very much a surprise, given his relative unpopularity.
    • Jason is that one NPC who the fandom likes to use as a measuring stick on how much a loser a Heroic Spirit can be, no thanks to the rather overblown Adaptational Wimp treatment he got and how much of an abusive Jerkass he is, and compounded with Cheiron mentioning that he's a poor student who's more interested in hitting on girls instead of getting stronger. He's considered either "probably the weakest Servant ever" or "what may happen if the Nasuverse Memetic Loser Shinji Matou became a Demi-Servant"note 
    • The original Saber Altria has unfortunately become one of these. She's infamous for being the poster girl of the game yet the biggest victim of Power Creep, with her Instinct/Intuition skill being the target of derision for gaining 15 stars and nothing more. It doesn't help that other Servants have gotten Strengthening Quests to buff themselves up yet Altria's been passed over time and time again has led to more than a few jokes at her expense.
    • Tier-Induced Scrappy exist, but if they are 4-Star, tending to spook players, they end up being this, mocked by players for their inefficiency and spook tendencies to the point of being referred as 'Rare Prism', and they could only be used for Self-Imposed Challenge. Examples of this include Siegfried, Fionn and Stheno.
    • Ibaraki-Douji is the Servant that's hit the hardest with the 'bullying' meme that it's kind of hard to see her as the intended fearsome Oni of Mt. Ooe, but more like a pitiful character who's constantly-bullied. Note that amongst those who receive the 'bullying' meme, Ibaraki was the one that was hit the hardest with this trope.
    • Okada Izou also tends to get saddled with 'bullying' memes despite not being a Raid Boss whatsoever, mostly due to him being a 3-Star Servant, but tends to boast about his prowess as a manslayer and swordsman, forgetting that there are other great swordsmen Servant with higher stars than him, one of them being... Musashi. Therefore, whenever Okada opens his big mouth, expect someone to swiftly shut him up by force, or 'bully' him.
  • Memetic Molester:
    • The female protagonist. This comes from her appearance in the official Learn With Manga! FGO manga where she is depicted molesting Mash and Olga Marie (and lately, Helena) whenever she is upset with them. Many fan artists draw her with this face while doing something highly inappropriate.
    • Hassan of Serenity had a brief phase of this when a bug in Swimsuit Altria's sprite meant that Serenity would kiss her thighs instead of her lips when targeting her with her Noble Phantasm. As a result, at least before that bug was patched, there were quite a few jokes and pieces of fanart depicting Serenity as having a thigh fetish.
  • Memetic Mutation: Of course.
  • Memetic Troll: The game's Trolling Creator is this. Due to the various problems the game has had (and still has), the fandom has reached the general consensus that the game is developed by none other than Kotomine Kirei. First several CEs that bear his image or items associated with him are constantly being pulled by platers. Secondly, the company behind the game is named Delightworks, and a synonym for delight is, you guessed it, rejoice. In other words, every time something happens in the game that isn't in your favour, Kotomine is to blame for your suffering. His actual appearance during the prologue of part 2 further increased the idea.
  • Moe:
    • Mash. She's never seen the outside world before the events of the game and constantly expresses her wonder at seeing all the things that inhabit it.
      • Her "Cha-ching... cha-ching!" whenever you get Saint Quartz Fragments? Absolutely adorable.
    • Marie, treating everything with kindness. Her swimsuit Caster version attacks using a beach ball!
      Marie: (after a battle is completed) "Everyone, I love you! Thank you! Vive la France!"
    • Medea Lily. Being the innocent version of Medea who was a princess, she always has a cute smile.
    • Chibi Nobus, drawn as the Koha-Ace version of Nobunaga, all they say is "Nobu!" in various cute ways. Even their death cry is adorable!
    • Santa Alter singing Jingle Bells with a cold smile, made some players' heart stopped instantly. She is so adorable!!
    • Jeanne Santa Alter Lily is even more adorable. She's all smile, calling the player "Mr. Reindeer", and sings Jingle Bells excitedly when using her NP.
    • Heroine X Alter. She's a Meganekko Saber in a Sailor Fuku, acting like a literature major university student. She even has a teary-eyed dialogue sprite! Oh, and she's a Star Wars nerd.
    • Chacha is moe personified. Her very high-pitched voice and cutesy dialogue aside, she acts like a clumsy elementary school kid... until she reveals her NP.
    • Abigail Williams (at least in her "normal form"). Her birthday song for you is outright diabetes-inducing adorable.
  • Moral Event Horizon: When Kirei was introduced in this verse, there's a lot who thought that he might take a backseat of being a bad guy, since Koyanskaya has been rather heavy in showing that she's going to be the villain by doing lots of dog-kicking. After it was revealed that he was in cahoots with Koyanskaya, Kirei showed that he's still the good ol' sociopathic wild card villainous priest we all know and 'love' by fatally impaling Da Vinci with his bare hand.
  • Most Annoying Sound: Da Vinci-chan is a dear, sweet shopkeeper who sure likes rattling off the same lines every time you do anything in her shop. YOUKOSO! Allegedly, after the eleventy zillionth repetition, it starts to get a little grating. Parodied in an official comic (mildly NSFW).
  • Most Wonderful Sound:
    • The special chime that plays when you get a Great or Super Success while levelling Servants or Craft Essences.
    • Servants who have a Leitmotif play when they unleash their Noble Phantasm. Standouts include Altria's "Sword of Promised Victory", EMIYA's titular Leitmotif, Gilgamesh's "Cosmic Air" from ''Fate/Extra CCC'' and "Seventh Heaven" from the Kara no Kyoukai movies for both versions of Shiki.
    • The crackling sound of electricity when your summoned Servant card turns from silver into gold, guaranteeing at least a SR card. What comes out afterward, though...
    • Years later and a Servant's fading away is still accompanied by the exact same waning ethereal tone that played in Fate/stay night. In the context of story, it's almost certainly confirmation that the Servant you beat isn't coming back as opposed to them simply having reverted to spirit form and retreated.

    N 
  • Never Live It Down: Several Servants can't escape their historical actions or things that happened in previous Fate installments.
    • Poor David - after the release of the London chapter, he's only going to be remembered for being the worst parent ever, thanks to the way Solomon turned out. Though, to be fair, it's not really Solomon's fault.
    • Paracelsus as well. In spite of being a genuinely Nice Guy and The Atoner, many fans will never let go of how he betrayed Misaya and her father in Fate/Prototype Fragments.

    O 
  • Older Than They Think:
    • Although her personality is new, Minamoto no Yorimoto (who historically is male) getting a Gender Flip, on the other hand...actually happened in the anime for Shin Getter Robo.
    • Xuanzang getting gender flipped is nothing new; so many retellings and adaptations play with his character by flipping him, it's no surprise DelightWorks siezed that opportunity the second they got the chance.

    P 
  • Pandering to the Base:
    • While the main story has tried to integrate most of the Servants currently available into the plot, the events by and large integrate characters by popularity, with Ensemble Darkhorse and Breakout Character Servants appearing far, far more than less popular characters. Consequently, Darius and Mephistopheles, who were previously the poster characters for their respective classes in pre-release advertising, were swiftly Demoted to Extra. The two did get some screentime in events but their promotion is still negligible compared to the other five poster characters (Attila, Arjuna, Scathach, Jekyll and Ushiwakamaru - but even then that last example had to wait until Babylonia, nearly 500 days after the initial release of the game, to get into the spotlight).
    • Several popular Servants were made 5* or 4* and given various upgrades to appeal to their fans, dividing the fanbase on whether it makes sense for them to be gold from a story and power level viewpoint and angry because it makes them harder to get. The biggest offenders of this were Jack, Okita, and Frankenstein.
    • Servants already from a pre-existing work like Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Zero or Fate/Extra are far more likely to get an alternate class than most of the Servants introduced in this very game.
    • Female Servants are pushed a lot more often in the game, with the females outnumbering males in terms of SSR units and feature more in event stories and often given more alternate versions than males.
      • The one place this really tends to grate is in the summer events - we now have, as of 2017, fifteen different summer-themed lady Servants, in swimsuits and other attractive outfits, and not a single guy with a summer version. There isn't even a Costume Dress option for Cu Chulainn to get his famous hawaiian shirt outfit from Hollow Ataraxia and Carnival Phantasm (despite the newest Altria Alter being based on the maid episode of CP!) They at least tried to mitigate it by showing swimsuit versions of the boys in the event's Craft Essences, but fans still would like a playable version of them.
      • This is also noticeable when comparing Valentines Day events to their White Day counterparts: Valentines events usually have a campaign attached to the standard servant gacha and event CEs, while White Day only has the latter two. 2018 saw a slight change, but only in that there was an additional week-long login bonus to obtain a new costume for Arthur.
  • Player Punch: Mash's death and subsequent inability to be used for the final battle. While she does come back in full after the battle is won, it really hits home that she's gone because without her 0 cost your party limits are so much harder to manage, and you probably took all of her skills for granted. Scrambling to create a new party that can fit your maximum cost drives home that your first and most reliable partner is gone when you need her the most.

    R 
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Several Servants who were considered bad in gameplay were given some kind of Interlude or Strengthening Quest which had redeemed them in the fans' eyes.
    • Initially, Waver's buffs were ineffectual and his NP merely reduced enemies' NP gauge and Cursed them. This is what led to such a negative reception and his incredibly large update to upgrade all his skills and NP. Now he's considered one of the game's best Casters and is highly sought after by many players for his sheer utility.
    • EMIYA has an Arts-focused skillset but a Buster NP that deals very low damage. With his unique Bond CE that gives him a flat chance of dropping critical stars per hit (which makes his NP good for next-turn critical attacks) and a Strengthening Quest which changes his third skill's effect to giving all attack types a buff, he was finally seen as useful. Furthermore, he received another Strengthening Quest in October, turning his Clairvoyance skill into Hawkeye, which increases his star generation and critical damage. Now he's considered a top-tier 4* Servant. And the Fate/EXTELLA event finally gave him an upgrade to his animations, including firing actual arrows for his attacks, and using Crane Wing Three Realms (with Overedge) for his Extra attack, making him visually interesting and replacing his bland, generic attack animations that were considered unfitting for him.
    • Stheno initially only had Alluring Voice and Bloodsuckingnote , and was one of the few 4* Servants with only two skills. Her Strengthening Quest gave her a third skill that boosts ATK (up to a 40% multiplier) with a bonus attack buff to any Servant with Divinity. Considering how most Divine Servants (eg: Heracles, Gilgamesh, Quetzalcoatl, and Raikou) are some of the most potent damage dealers in the game, she's considered rather useful to help them dish out even more damage. Even a Gorgon Sisters party with her, Medusa, and Euryale is somewhat viable (and was made even moreso once Medusa got a couple of alternate versions, one of which is a rare Class).
    • Arash used to be derided as one of the worst Servants in the game for his self-destructing NP which didn't do much because of his bronze Servant status. This looped back into being hilarious for some and was quickly used for shits and giggles. Then he received a new skill which regenerates his HP and NP bar and his interlude buffed his NP greatly, giving him the potential to be a Game-Breaker with the right setup. And with Palingenesis he's become even stronger.
      • Also helping this was his role in the Camelot chapter, which gave him a lot of characterization, helped introduce his myth to a lot of players, and gave him a number of fan favorite moments including his Heroic Sacrifice which involved deflecting a Rhogomyniad blast a thousand times more powerful than Excalibur with his Stella arrow. He rapidly became a favorite of the fanbase after this, and more people endeavored to use him seriously out of respect.
    • Mash is a complicated example. She's the starting Servant and is supposed to slowly grow stronger as the story progresses. However with the long gap between chapter releases and level cap, Mash was almost fated to fall behind everyone else. By the London update, she had unlocked all her skills and the 6 Million Downloads Campaign had raised her level cap, making her a decent tank but she was still outstripped by other Servants because of her low stats. But with the Camelot chapter came a slew of new buffs, including another level cap raise and an upgrade to her rarity, giving her an extra boost in stats, a buff to her first skill which includes a huge, one-time damage cut, and most importantly, an upgrade to her Noble Phantasm that lets it give a very powerful attack buff to her other party members.
    • With Palingenesis, now lower rarity Servants can even outperform higher rarity Servants. It also can pseudo-increase the Servants' rarity, increasing them to the "rarity they deserve".
    • Amakusa's role in the Christmas 2016 event storyline increased his stock in the eyes of the fanbase substantially. Given that he acted like a Tuxedo Kamen wannabe, complete with rose-hilted Black Keys and incredible theatricality, all for the sake of helping an innocent little girl get to the sea and fulfill a deep, unrealized wish, so that she wouldn't disappear in a Puff of Logic, it's not too surprising. Even people who disliked him in Apocrypha have gained new respect for the man. When his Strengthening Quest was introduced, he became the MVP of several challenge battles.
    • In light of the SE.RA.PH event, many fans expressed their respect and sympathy to EMIYA (Alter) - despite his much derided design - after the story told his tragic past.
    • Both the Caster of Nightless City and Assassin of Nightless City were given a warmer reception by players after they found their characters were significantly fleshed out in Agartha.
    • Several upgrades are released via interludes to help boost Servants who were suffering from Power Creep:
      • Berserker Vlad's Transformation skill was turned into Legend of Dracula - Succession of Fresh Blood, increasing the value of his defense buff and adding a new attack buff on top of that. If he was usable when teamed up with Tamamo-no-Mae, his utility when teamed up with her increased exponentially.
      • Jeanne's NP upgrade remove her self stun and adds a party debuff removal, making her one of the better healers in the game (especially in an Arts team), being able to actually complete Brave Chains without the stun getting in the way.
      • Medb's Charisma was buffed tremendously. It was changed to Queen's Admonition, giving a bonus ATK buff to male Servants on the field and also heals herself. She's considered a solid support Rider, especially in male-focused teams, and when fighting male bosses.
      • Astolfo received a skill upgrade on July 2017, which gave his third skill a 50% NP gauge fill to compensate for his low NP generation.
      • Siegfried actually gets a Strengthening Quest that buffs his third skill, giving a hefty increase to his attack and buster card effectiveness. At level one it gives a nice 50% attack up and 30% up to his booster effectiveness, and it scales up to 80% attack and 50% buster card effectiveness at max skill level. This means that it strengthens his Noble Phantasm, giving him a much higher tier ranking...in the Japanese servers at least. This means that Siegfried won't be relevant until later for other servers.
    • With the second Anniversary, Instinct skills are slowly being upgraded, as Mysterious Heroine X Alter now has a Quick buff on top of the skill's regular effects and Mysterious Heroine X has one-turn invincibility added to her Instinct. Their names are also changed.
    • If a Servant in their original run didn't leave a good impression to the fans, being heavily featured in a scenario (especially those written by Nasu) can help increase their reception. Some examples include:
      • Hassan of the Cursed Arm, who was previously often thought to be the least liked Servants in Stay Night due to only appearing in one route, killing off several fan favorite Servants despite weak stats and being the Servant of Zouken Matou. The Camelot Singularity greatly fleshed out his character, revealing his more honorable side and as a result, he gained his own following.
      • Avicebron, who was the least popular Servant to come out of Apocrypha, became a far more fun and interesting character in the First Lostbelt. This was due to him being nothing but helpful towards the protagonist, from repairing the damaged Shadow Border, to playing Double Agent to get information on Ivan and Kardoc, to sacrificing himself by using himself as the core to Adam so that the protagonist can engage in a Kaiju fight with Ivan's Divine Beast Mount as atonement for betraying Roche and using him as Adam's core.
      • Similarly, Amakusa Shiro Tokisada. While his gameplay prowess is still debatable (very good in hard challenges, but sub-par elsewhere), most people agreed that he's written more competently here than in the light novel. Since Amakusa's appearance in FGO was long before the Apocrypha anime aired, fans have warmed up enough to him thanks to this game that they were more looking forward to his appearance in the anime.
      • Sieg, at least characterization-wise, is much more accepted here, due to being Older and Wiser, having been through Apocrypha, while retaining some of his more Adorkable traits even as a gigantic dragon and also not having an Ass Pull-derived moveset. While his light novel self is still widely disliked, most players can agree that he's improved in Grand Order.

    S 
  • The Scrappy:
    • Boudica is unfortunately one of the Servants that fans have high expectations on, only to be betrayed really harshly by how she's presented in-game. She's supposed to be a strong warrior queen, but she came off REALLY weak, even for a 3-Star Servant. Her biggest claim of fame was her hatred towards Rome and being a thorn to Nero's reign, although she had a very good reason for it. Unfortunately, her story is considered a huge waste for that, in her only story appearance in Septem, the plot demanded her to go side with Nero (albeit only because she viewed the United Roman Empire as worse). Additionally, her original design before Ascension is considered to be a level of Fetish Retardant and doesn't accurately show her as a warrior queen. Because of this, a lot felt like Boudica is an unsalvageable mess, that not even her Hidden Depths as insinuated in Garden of Order could help her and believed that she should've been an Avenger like in the manga.
    • Fionn is one of the most reviled Servants in the game, if not the least popular one in the game. His gameplay was massively lacking (and still is), as detailed in Tier-Induced Scrappy entry, but there's some other factors that don't exactly help him: lore-wise, he was responsible for the tragic fate of Diarmuid, which wouldn't have raised much of a stink on its own, but it's coupled with his attempts to be a ladies man (the primary motivator for him getting Diarmuid killed in the first place) and not fessing up to his jealous motivation (that said, he'll take responsibility for what he did to Diarmuid, but only if you raised his Bond to Level 5 to unlock his final Bond dialogue), which further torpedoed his popularity with players. Being drawn to resemble Kayneth, Diarmuid's previous Master who didn't treat him well, with a different hairstyle also didn't do him any favors. Meta-wise, his debut gacha also happened to feature Brynhild, who's not only an Ensemble Darkhorse but also serves as a pretty decent SSR Lancer for those who manage to roll her, so Fionn is often considered an especially infuriating spook for those gunning for her, not helped by Brynhild disappearing from any limited gacha banners for almost two years until Nero Fest 2017, and there's always a chance he will spook you in any time you are trying to summon an SSR Lancer (like Scathach in one of the Million Download Campaigns). Take all those (including his gameplay prowess), and people got even more disappointed when they learned that in the actual myth, Fionn was actually a bonafide badass with tons of awesome feats and achievements, and yet none of them could be shown in-game, creating an irritating dissonance. Needless to say, you'd be very hard pressed to find anybody who considers him to be a good servant in battle and in character, and fans like to take note that for someone whose surname translates to 'McCool', Fionn didn't live up to that coolness.
    • Rider of the Resistance (Christopher Columbus). While his Historical Villain Upgrade does make some sense and there's plenty of Evil-leaning Servants that have plenty of fans who Love to Hate them (such as Archer of Shinjuku), Columbus took his villain upgrade a touch too far, by being a two-faced, disturbingly unlikable character who's more into slavery than he has any right to be. For comparison's sake, Blackbeard, despite being based on the infamous pirate of the same name and his alignment lining up as Chaotic Evil, has his villainous qualities used as the basis for sillier antics, especially in events; Columbus is a legitimate sailor and his negative traits are amped up to the point where he actually might be worse than his real world counterpart and when he showed his true colors, his actions were not played for comedy. His final ascension art doesn't help matters, making him come off as a deranged harem lord (made even more horrific when you consider the above), and his Noble Phantasm art cut-in and sprite after several Ascensions had him display a terrifyingly wide Slasher Smile. Thanks to this, Columbus is extremely unpopular amongst villainous Servants or even villainous characters in the game and most fans will usually just default to burning him for Mana Prisms than put up with him. It definitely doesn't help that he's a 3-Star Servant, which means that he has a decent chance of appearing in the Story Summon.note  His only 'redeeming' quality is that for a 3-Star Servant, he's actually one of the more decent ones to use, but that usually pales in comparison to his story/characterization negatives.
    • Stheno, for being a huge Jerkass (especially towards Medusa, an established fan-favorite), and unlike Euryale, who while also smug has her fans due to her relationship with Asterios and unique niche as an anti-male Archer, the story gives her no humanizing qualities and she is an especially bad SR Servant, being outclassed by even Bronze-rarity Assassins. Most people would rather burn her for rare prisms rather than put up with her.
  • Scrappy Mechanic:
    • The Halloween Event introduced two different kinds of maps, one that opened at a set time every day, and one that opened at a time that was hinted by looking around the map. The problem was however that both maps were only open for one hour, and the sheer number of players trying to connect at the same time put too much load on the servers. They eventually changed one of the maps so that it remained open but could only be done once, and changed the other map to do the same thing later.
    • The only way to change the target of your attack mid-combo or break through Guts in one turn is to either have the next card be another Servant, or use your Noble Phantasm. In Brave Chains that don't include a NP, enemies that die in the first attack (maybe due to a critical) can be immensely frustrating. The only positive is the Overkill/Overgauge mechanic that applies additional NP charge or higher crit star generation on attacks on dead enemies.
    • The gacha. While the gacha in other games have similar rates of quality, it's especially bad here because, with how the game is designed (Craft Essences and Servants are included in the same gacha), it's important that you actually have the rare Servants, never mind that many fans just want to play with their favourite character. note  At least you can "borrow" your favorite Servant from the Friend List. With this abysmally low rates, incidents where hundreds of attempts failed to get a single copy of SSR Servants is not uncommon.
    • Another heavily disliked mechanic is the bind code. You can get a bind code with a password to restore your account if something happens to your device/the game or if you're switching between devices. The problem is, you must generate the code manually and write it down on something that isn't in-game. And the code can only be used once, so if you use the code you must generate a new code immediately which several players often forget to do. However the Chinese and Taiwanese versions have implemented an ID/password account system and the option to link accounts to Facebook.
    • The "Starry Xuanzang Goes to India" event was a two week event that involved farming for four different types of items: talismans, which were used in place of AP to play story quests (with a repeatable quest that dropped the other three materials after all story quests were done), three other items, which acted as the event shop currency. This isn't so bad in itself. However, the second week introduced two entirely new materials to farm for (one that acted like talismans and another which acted as shop currency for different items). Farming for these materials involved completing an entirely different set of quests, and the drops could only be boosted by a different set of servants and CEs from the ones that boosted the previous drops (and the CEs required either spending the new currency or completing the new quests and had very weak battle effects). So essentially, it was like having to do an entire new event in one week (two events including the previous week for those who haven't finished farming for those items). Coming off the already grindy Ibaraki-Douji event, this left a collective bad taste in the community's mouth.
    • The feature to buy SSR Servants is this. You can gain a blue medal by obtaining a SSR Servant if you already have the same Servant with a level 5 NP. To make things worse, you must have 10 medals to buy one SSR Servant. That means you must have at least 10 SSR Servants with a level 5 NP, and 10 duplicates of them just to get one new 5* Servant.
    • With the 1.15 version update, there's a new Rare Prism currency which can be used to buy past events' exclusive Craft Essences or Mystic Codes. The catch is you only obtain them that players can only obtain them through burning gold Servants (and welfare SR Servants don't count, so no easy farming for non-whales) or used them as experience prior to the update.
    • Another is introducing new Ascension materials with every new chapter since America. Farming for ascension materials is already very tedious to begin with considering their low drop rate, and now you have to grind for another batch of them if you want to ascend your newly introduced Servants! To make up for this, DW puts in every post-America event some kind of way to obtain the new Ascension materials and increase their drop rate in event nodes.
    • One of the things that makes the Final Boss much harder is that Mash is unavailable until you complete the chapter. This hits the player hard for two reasons: First, Mash has the best defensive buffs in the game and most likely you relied on her to help your team survive. Without her, your team most likely has to find a new method to tank the damage. Second, Mash had 0 cost and was most likely an auto-include on most team compositions. With her gone, even high level players will suddenly find themselves struggling with cost limits.
    • The Sound Player. It's nice to be able to listen to all the Awesome Music in the game, but in order to unlock the music, you need to spend Ascension materials. Obviously most people would rather use their materials to improve their Servants, and many of the materials are a pain to acquire outside of events. Not to mention that most people can find OST tracks on YouTube and listen to them there, effectively rendering the purpose of the Sound Player completely moot.
    • 4-star Fou cards are used to increase a Servant's stat from 1,000 to 2,000. Each one only increases it by a paltry 20 points and are in very short supply during events. If you want to buy just one from the Rare Prism shop, you need 3 of them which requires burning either one SSR Servant for 5 Rare Prisms or burning three SR Servants for three Rare Prisms, making the process of getting a Servant's stats to 2,000 long and tedious even for whales.
  • Self-Fanservice:
    • Common among the male Servants, surprisingly. Gawain in particular gets hit with it, with his extra muscle compared to his Fate/EXTRA appearance being upgraded to Top-Heavy Guy levels in fanart.
    • Fanart of Ooi Katsushika tends to play up her Hidden Buxom factor.
  • Sequel Displacement: Sweet jiggery-pokery. Fate/stay night was hardly unpopular, but the Fate franchise still tended to be a little obscure and mostly seen as a thing for a subset of otaku, and even highly successful entries like Fate/EXTRA only sold around 100-150k copies. Grand Order, meanwhile, is one of the most successful mobile RPGs in the history of Japanese videogames. It has introduced literal millions of people to Fate and Type-Moon, and is far and away the most successful thing Type-Moon has ever, ever made.
  • So Okay, It's Average: The anime special. While there were some moments in the special that many fans enjoyed, the general consensus is that it wasn't all that great. The animation is considered lacking (especially compared to the Ufotable anime adaptations of Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night UBW, though any studio would be hard-pressed to match those) and the story isn't as cohesive as the game. That said the special did give the game some Adaptation Expansion and it did introduce some new fans into the game.
  • Squick:
    • Mary and Anne's relationship. It would be appealing to most people only Mary is drawn with an extremely childlike design, while Anne is Ms. Fanservice incarnate who's card art renders her twice Mary's height (This is probably artistic license since their height difference is only 10 cm). The result looks uncomfortably like paedophilia. And especially ironic because Mary is ten years older than Anne.
    • Medb's Noble Phantasm is essentially her orgasming after trampling the enemy to death, regardless of what they are. This carries some uncomfortable rape undertones, especially when you consider that this NP could be used against characters like Nursery Rhyme, Jack, Alexander and Young Gil.
    • The Berserker Raikou cannot distinguish between different types of love (aka romantic/platonic/familial), and therefore sees 'son' and 'lover' as the same thing. Yikes.
    • Sanson equating executions as sex to Marie — one of those he executed — is pretty damn creepy; considering that Marie didn't have a choice in being put to death, he sounds more like he's talking about raping her.

    T 
  • That One Boss:
    • Gilgamesh in the Archer Daily quest is a very fearsome boss, due to his very small NP charge gauge (as an Archer, it only takes three turns to charge it) and his Golden Rule skill (which adds one charge to the gauge). These two qualities mean that he can possibly utilize Ea in the middle of an attack chain without warning, dealing lots of super-effective damage to all of your Servants and not giving you any room to set up evasion or invincibility to counter it. The revamped 40 AP Archer Daily quest makes him fight alongside another enemy, meaning that he doesn't get multiple actions per turn so long as he isn't the only one alive, but gives him more HP to compensate.However 
    • Jekyll's interlude. You get to fight two Jekylls, and one of them has more than 200,000 HP. What make him especially hard is his Noble Phantasm that heals him and then increases his HP. Now if you just got him into 2000 HP, and his gauge is full, well...
    • Babbage's NP upgrade interlude. It is a boss fight against Rider Fafnir with more than 200,000 HP, what's worse is you cannot bring any supports besides the type-disadvantageous Babbage. If you don't have any strong Assassin units like Jack, good luck.
    • In the early days of this game, Assassin bosses were generally a pain in the ass to deal with because many of the Casters back then were either Support Party Members, or had AoE Noble Phantasms that didn't do much damage (not to mention, Assassin bosses generally have high crit rate and have 3 bars of NP, meaning that they can trigger their NP pretty often and their attacks hit hard even when putting into consideration of the Tactical Rock–Paper–Scissors Caster advantage over Assassins. Fortunately, most Assassin bosses generally have single target Noble Phantasms, which is easy to work around with). The only reliable Caster to deal with Assassin bosses was Medea, but her Noble Phantasm damage is deliberately low because she can Spam Attack it. Subsequent patches and chapter releases introduced Caster servants designed to nuke Assassin bosses with strong single target Noble Phantasms, but they are still hard to obtain since 2 of them are 5* rarity servants note  the latter of which was Limited, and two are 4* rarity note , meaning Medea will often be the only reliable Caster to deal with Assassin bosses for most players who are unlucky with the gacha since Medea is a 3* servant, making it easy to obtain.
    • Robespierre's ghost from d'Eon's Interlude. It has 800k HP, will constantly stun your Servants and nullify your Servants' NP with its special attack. It's accompanied by two ghosts with 100k HP that drain NP bars and since they're all Assassins with a short NP gauge, they will spam those attacks constantly. Also, as good offensive-based single target Casters are rare, your only hope is finding Xuanzang and Illya from your friend list; otherwise, your best bet is using a servant with an NP that has a chance to insta-kill.
    • The level 80 free quest for the Saber Wars event had Tesla, an already powerful Servant in an event that encourages you to use Sabers, which Tesla is strong against as an Archer. And his quest was one of the best places to farm one of the event currencies.
    • In the first Valentine event, there were rate-ups for each class that made a Free Quest spawn that particular class. This led to players building teams to counter one class when either a demon, dragon or an enemy Servant of an opposite Class curb stomps them.
    • The 6th Day of the Prison Tower event has the double Ruler combo of Jeanne and Shirou. On one hand, you get a powerful Edmond Dantes as your support, who has the advantage against Rulers as an Avenger. However, before Jeanne and Shirou comes a wave of Caster-class wyverns, followed by a very bulky Rider-class wyvern, who will tear apart the team before they even get to the boss. And Jeanne and Shirou themselves are no slouches, with Shirou in particular having an NP that debuffs before dealing damage, rendering invincibility buffs useless, and necessitating that he goes down as soon as possible. After Amakusa is down, though, Jeanne is very easy to deal with.
    • With the last day of the Prison Tower event, there was a giant ghost Assassin boss. Its AoE hits hard (and have high chance to get crits), has tons of HP (500,000+), and has such a high magic resistance that most stuns/debuff can't affect it.
    • And of course, the 3 BP quest featuring Ibaraki-douji with her 6 million HP. Her attacks are always strong against everyone since she's a Berserker, she has an AoE attack, her critical hits will almost always kill a Servant, her single-target NP is insanely strong and it always removes buffs after usage. The right hand accompanying her will Stun a party member every three turns and the other has an AoE skill that seals NPs/skills However .
    • The Camelot chapter in its entirety is especially hard, but Gawain and Mordred stand out as very hard bosses in that chapter. Gawain charges up his NP twice as fast, making him faster than normal Assassins and Archers at charging his Noble Phantasm and he has a powerful defense buff, which will help ensure he survives long enough to use it. Mordred starts with a full NP bar, and charges up to full again each turn. She doesn't use her Noble Phantasm until the last battle (she uses Extra attacks like a shadow servant instead), but during her last battle she will use Clarent Blood Arthur each turn unless you stun her or drain her NP bar.
    • The final boss of Camelot is even worse, despite lacking any gimmicks unique to their being a boss. Said boss, Lancer Altria, has an area-of-effect Noble Phantasm that pierces invincibility and ignores dodging, basically ensuring a Total Party Kill every time she uses it unless your party members are stocked up on defense buffs, are Sabers, or equipped with a Guts buff (preferably some combination thereof). Furthermore, it recharges her charge gauge by 25% after every use, and she has a skill that bolsters it by another 25%, meaning that she can spam Rhongomyniad to her heart's content nearly every two turns and just keep crushing your party underfoot. Even Sabers, who have the class advantage on her, will find themselves crumbling under the repeated NP assaults without proper defense boosts to bolster them.
    • Quetzalcoatl in the Babylonia chapter comes with a buff that decreases your Servant's damage depending on their alignment. Good-Aligned servants do absolutely nothing, when Neutral and Evil Servants still only do half damage. There are a handful of servants who aren't any of the three alignments, but two of them are Berserkers (Heracles and Berserker!Lancelot), while the third is a Limited Servant (Nero Bride). And the second battle not only gives her an additional defense buff, but also features the first instance of your dialogue choices actually mattering, with the top choice making her even stronger.
    • The Chaos Tide-corrupted Ushiwakamaru clones in Babylon.. The first battle isn't so hard, despite charging her NP to full every turn, since she's a Berserker and her NP is single target, meaning that you can focus fire on her before she does too much damage. However, the second time you fight against SIX of her, and she still charges her NP each turn.
      • The third and final battle against her removes her ability to charge her NP to full every turn, but in exchange, her class is changed to one that's neutral to every single class, and she gets the ability to spawn clones with full HP so long as there are less than three enemies and the original is alive. Her skill-set also makes her rather dangerous since it includes a dodge, NP charge, and a full-party attack buff. And to make things worse, your entire party lineup is shuffled around at the beginning of the battle and anyone who's active takes damage at the beginning of every turn.
    • Every single fight with Avenger of Shinjuku (Hessian Lobo), especially the last one. Not only do they constantly use buffs to increase their critical damage, defense, their attack and can clear all their debuffs every turn, every fight has a special gimmick. For the first and last fight, they'll inflict a defense debuff on one of your Servants every turn. Then for the third fight, they'll activate a one-hit dodge every turn. The last fight also has them inflict a very high attack debuff on one of your Servants. To make matters worse, their single-target NP has a sure-hit buff to go through any evasion and even if you have invincibility up, it has a high chance to inflict instant death.
    • One of the very first story battles in the Fate/Extra CCC crossover event is against BB with 400,000 HP, complete with BB Slots that will have a chance of giving you a 20% debuff in something. She hits really hard, can give herself critical buffs to make herself harder and she will constantly buff herself, only receives normal damage from standard classes and has only one weakness in Rulers (the class infamous for not having damage dealers), can clear all debuffs and grant herself debuff immunity, and her NP will likely kill any Servant unfortunate enough to receive it. All in all, she's a frustrating roadblock to the rest of the event.
    • Megaros is Heracles turned Up to Eleven, as not only has he inherited all of Herc's stuff like Bravery, his Berserker class, and God Hand (as twelve seperate non-dispellable Guts buffs), he's also got a few new tricks up his sleeve, like his Servant taunt which causes him to rapidly decimate the HP of the targeted Servant in the turn after applying the taunt (and he can activate the taunt even while stunned) and a charged AoE attack, which also can be a critical attack, leading to many parties getting wiped out.
    • Each major battle in Shimosa can count, as those battles lock you to the NPC Musashi and cannot use friend supports. Each bosses also have crazy gimmicks that make the battle harder. The Dual Boss battle against Samghata Berserker and Kalasutra Rider takes the cake as both Servants use AOE NPs that can wipe out the party if taken unprepared and Berserker spams her defense down with charm skill a lot. The battle against Empireo Saber is equally difficult with his ability to remove buffs with any attack, inflicting multiple massive attack down debuffs, his charm immunity and his massive defense buff after taking out his 2nd HP bar.
  • That One Level:
    • Orleans during the game's early days. It featured wyverns with high HP, high attack and most importantly, high crit rates in the first real chapter, when most players were still getting used to the gameplay mechanics and trying to figure out everything. It didn't help that there was a dearth of Assassins that were considered good, leading to Kojirou being the most utilized and the Savior of France meme. These days, it's pretty much a walk in the park, as the enemies were nerfed.
    • The Archer free quest in the Saber Wars event, since only Sabers gave bonuses to how much Altrium you get from battle and had the attack boost. The boss? Tesla, with a sure-kill, invincibility pierce AoE NP with a chance to stun all of your party.
    • The Assassin free quest in Da Vinci Event, with a lack of offensive Casters available to most players at the time, as they have to face ghosts that constantly drain your NP, stun your party members, or give other ghosts an NP charge, a Soul Eater on the second stage of battle with high HP and crit rate with a particularly nasty NP attack and Carmilla/Bathory constantly spamming their NPs thanks to their small NP bar accompanied by aforementioned ghosts.
    • Camelot as a whole, filled with 100,000 HP Mooks and constantly throwing you against all kinds of new enemies with dangerous skills and NPs. All the bosses can and will use their skills to make themselves even more dangerous or fill their NP gauge, while also having active buffs given to them which changes several gameplay mechanics when facing them. Special note goes to the last 3 or so Sections, which include Section 15 (a series of incredibly tough fights against Ozymandias and his huge setup of him, Nitocris, some Sphinxes, and a demon pillar, which you have to fight twice), Section 16 (a boss fight against the three Hassans, each with powerful 3-turn charge N Ps, all at once), and lastly Section 17, which includes a Boss Rush against every single one of the Gifted Camelot knights, including the return of Gawain, Tristan, and Mordred, culminating in two fights against Lancer Altria herself.
    • The best farming stages for Chaldea Summer 2016 are tedious because they're very unforgiving for Servants that have a bonus drop rate for that stage. And as usual, you're forced to use the event CEs for efficiency. The event's rerun changed the farming bonuses to be based on class and altered enemy compositions accordingly to address these complaints.
    • Shimosa is considered to be the hardest chapter of Epic of Remnant, because almost all of the bosses there possess a unique gimmick and you're forced to use an NPC Musashi in the frontline very often.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: Let's just say a major portion of the players who were playing before October 2016 think that Rie Takahashi wasn't good enough of a replacement for Risa Taneda for the voice of Mash and just leave it at that...
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • Fans have noted with disappointment for years that Cú Chulainn's famous warp spasm ability has gone unused in the franchise. This game introduces Cú Chulainn under two new classes, one of which is even a Berserker... who is explicitly noted to be the opposite of his normal berserk persona and doesn't use warp spasm. During Cu Alter's interlude, the normal Lancer Cu implies that summoning his "standard" Berserker form would be a bad idea, which may explain why he hasn't appeared in that class.
    • Due to lack of plot involvement and weak writing that doesn't show off how impressive Romulus is supposed to be, the staff at both Delightworks and Type-Moon have expressed disappointment at how he was handled in the story and gameplay, even wishing they'd made him a 4* Servant to emphasize the importance he holds.
    • As far as the main story itself goes, a lot of Servants (and a few of the other non-Servant characters in the story; Olga Marie is the most notable example) suffer from not getting much in the way of screentime or development in early arcs, with many just serving as a roadblock to be killed. Part of the idea behind Epic of Remnant was giving some of these folks a shot at having a major, protagonist-side role in a chapter (Altria Alter & Jeanne Alter for Shinjuku, Gawain and Tristan for SERAPH, Astolfo and d'Eon for Agartha, Fuuma Kotaro for Shimosa, and Sanson & Mata Hari for Salem) and for each and every one of them, it helped their characterization tremendously.
    • Excluding seasonal events, almost all the Servants from Fate/stay night have almost no role in the story what so ever despite being the faces of the series. The only ones to get any spotlight as their FSN incarnation is Heracles in Okeanos, and Hassan of the Cursed Arm in Camelot, the former being more or less a mindless boss, while the later is thankfully given a ton of focus, but Servants like Altria, Emiya, Cú, Medea, and Medusa have no role as their FSN incarnation despite being part of the games launch. The variations, like Saber Alter, Cú Alter, and Medea Lily have all made major appearances in the story mode, but it makes one question what the point of them are. Camelot in particular is a sticking point for both Altria and Emiya, as both would have fit perfectly in, and would provide some nice Call-Back to the original story, plus seeing Altria fight against a villainous take on herself seems like an obvious plot idea, but it never occurs. Gilgamesh at the very least gets to appear as his Archer form for the final battle in Babylonia.
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy: Several Servants get this for their poor stat growth, movesets, and rarity.
    • Benkei's NP inflicts several debuffs that other Servants can do with just skills, and Phantom's NP has a very low amount of damage even with its defense-ignoring nature and is only really useful for its six-turn debuff resistance decrease after its Interlude upgrade. They're thus considered as the worst Servants in the game, Strengthening Quests notwithstanding.
    • Servants with the Instinct/Intuition skill have been looked down on, as players see the skill as wasting a slot, without providing any utility and having an unnecessarily long cooldown for what it does. The Clairvoyance skill suffers from a similar, if less intense, dislike.
    • Quick-focused Servants in general originally, due to Quick-cards' rather middling ability to amass together a reliable amount of critical stars (Quick Chains aside) and often being slaves to the RNG more than any other type of Servant, thus making them unable to live up to how they were advertised. Quick attacks were later patched to make them more useful for gaining stars and damage, but they now lack good Quick-focused supports to make them good damage dealers in general like Merlin with Busters and Tamamo with Arts. The closest they currently have is Osakabe-hime, but she suffers from how the quick buff isn't as powerful since it's spread around the party, lacking healing abilities, the values on her NP are lacking and she can't charge NP nearly as well as her arts and buster counterparts. The only ones to escape this fate are Jack, Okita, Scáthach and Rider Kintoki, who are just so completely bonkers on their own that they still do their jobs well even without a dedicated support (and even then, Okita and Scáthach suffer more than the other two). To a lesser extent, Cu Chulainn, Ushiwakamaru, Billy the Kid, and Kojirou escape this fate as well though all of them may require Grail Ascension in the later contents.
    • Certain Servants on the higher rungs of rarity tend to get a much worse rap primarily because of several mitigating factors that prevent them from being as viable as players hope. Of particular note, starting with the 3* Servants:
      • Saber Gilles has low stats compared to his fellow 3* Sabers, skills that are situational and an NP that gives him great buffs, but the short duration means he can't take advantage of it and with his deck can't sustain it either. He was one of the most frequent Servants to appear in the gacha during the initial launch of the game, making him even more loathed. His Caster counterpart is also disliked for his skills, but as a story locked Servant is much harder to roll.
      • Boudica has decent HP, the marginally-useful Battle Continuation, and a powerful defense-buffing NP, but poor attack and a skill that's even more situational than Siegfried's own dragon-slaying skill and barely usable outside of the Singularity she debuts in. Her NP upgrade has been derided as a poor substitute for Mash's upgraded NP.
      • Similarly to Astolfo (as chronicled below), Hektor as a character has numerous passionate fans for his role in the story. As a Servant, however, like Astolfo he's considered low tier. He has one of the highest HP stats amongst 3* Servants, but his attack is only average for his rarity and on the low end for 3* Lancers. He has a useful party-wide NP-buffing skill and a powerful NP that ignores defense, but the skill's one-turn effect and his QQABB deck means he struggles to take advantage of it. His other two skills don't have much synergy and only provide a medium chance to stun and/or reduce an enemy's NP gauge and provide a minor heal while removing his debuffs respectively. Even his Bond 10 CE only makes him useful as a NP buffer.
      • Diarmuid is a bit of a Downplayed example. His Noble Phantasm is powerful and carries a useful buff removal, he's got a useful dodge skill that works for one turn, and a skill that increases his critical star generation, and his stats aren't too bad for a 3*, having decent attack and health. However, he's sharing the spotlight with fellow 3* Irish Lancer Cú Chulainn, both versions of who from both a gameplay and popularity standpoint blow poor Diarmuid out of the water in terms of usefulness and characterization. He also is largely overshadowed by units like Scáthach and Karna, and his Noble Phantasm, while useful, is a bit often hit or miss, as the damage may not be very much worth it.
      • Geronimo. His three skills boost Buster, Arts, and Quick cards respectively... but only for himself.
    • For the 4* Servants:
      • Saber Lily is considered the worst four star Servant in the game due to her abnormally low statsnote  and a skill set that sadly doesn't have much synergy with a team nor plays to what little strengths she has outside of Mana Burst for her Buster NP. As a result, essentially no one uses her at all outside of "waifu" factor. The only advantage she has over other 4* Sabers is that her NP scales slightly better than normal and can easily reach NP5 since she's a free Servant.
      • As a character, Astolfo has some popularity, including numerous very passionate fans. As a Servant, however, he's considered garbage tier and people hate rolling him on accident. His NP gain is terrible and his skills are weak, with his only saving grace being his NP charge skill which requires an Interlude to upgrade it.
      • Fionn is one of the least popular Servants in the game for many reasons, but gameplay-wise, he has poor NP generation even with his third skill boosting his Arts card performance; his NP, while doing decent damage post-Interlude and combined with his third skill, is hampered by his own low attack and previously mentioned NP generation; his first skill is the disliked Clairvoyance and only useful post-Strengthening Quest where it gains NP generation; and his second skill in particular is the most reviled (it's a combination of taunt and evasion for one turn... but only the taunt is guaranteed and there's only a 60% chance of the evasion kicking in and only being guaranteed at max level, meaning you have to max out an expensive skill just to make it useful. Coupled with a 10 turn cooldown at max level and you have a skill whose effects even multiple lower star Lancers have a better version of. The demerit of 80% decrease resistance to female charm surprisingly isn't usually mentioned since the enemies tend to get it off regardless).
      • Siegfried, who in the early days of the game got hit with this the worst after his high showing in Apocrypha to the point he gained the name "Sumanai". He has high HP, but doesn't have the skills of a tank outside of his Disengage skill. Instead, he has skills that indicate DW wants him to be a primary damage dealer, but his attack is far too low and he's built to serve a niche his class isn't suited for, namely fighting dragons. The buffs from Strengthening Quests and his Bond 10 CE all seem to be trying to make up for his lackluster damage by increasing his Buster card performance and NP gain to become a more efficient NP-spammer, but while he can now carry his own weight they're not enough to completely compensate for his low attack and he still needs to rely on other members of his team to bring out his full damage potential.
      • Stheno has very good NP gen and okay skills, but her lack of a damaging NP and tendency to show up at the worst times frustrates most players. Her only real use is based on gimmicky charm lock strategies against male bosses and providing a big attack steroid for Divine Servants (which, admittedly, is an ever-growing list, but still doesn't quite help enough).
      • Everything that applies to Siegfried can be similarly applied to Sieg if he's assumed from a glance to be meant to fight dragons, due to possessing a decently powerful skill that grants bonus damage to those with the Dragon trait. However, unlike Siegfried, Sieg's arguably in worse shape for this role since in addition to low Attack, he's a CASTER even though dragons are almost exclusively Riders, which Casters are weak too, and the skill, while stronger than Siegfried's damage-wise, also only lasts one turn to Siegfried's three and provides no Defense bonus against Dragons either (which is even more valuable to Sieg given the class triangle). While his Dragon Revelation skill allows him to deal bonus damage against units with Dragon trait (not just Dragons), sadly there are only 4 Servants from both the Berserker and Assassin classes that have this trait so for the most part, he cannot really take advantage of this skill without someone like St. Georgios providing backup. Otherwise, however, Sieg's skillset is built around charging and spamming his Defense-debuffing AOE Noble Phantasm as much as possible, so he'll likely see more use as a wave-clearer against Assassin or Berserker mobs with a team built around supporting this strategy rather than as a dragonslayer. In short, while Siegfried suffers from Crippling Overspecialization but excellent in this niche, Sieg is not good in his designated niche but can work well outside that.
      • Fran, due in large part to being a Master of None. She's a Berserker, so you'd expect her to be a Buster focused damage dealer, but her skills and Noble Phantasm make this seem really bad because none of her skills buff her damage output in any way, meaning a Buster chain for her pales in comparison to other 4* Berserker's with a Buster chain like Hercules. Her first skill is Galvanism, giving the impression of being a Noble Phantasm spammer, but she only has one Arts card and has low NP gain thanks to low hits on her attacks. Her Noble Phantasm, Blasted Tree, is a Quick card AOE attack that, while decreasing enemy critical chance and having decent damage, also puts a three turn stun on her, and unlike Jeanne, this buff is not removeable with an Interlude, so she doesn't fit either as a crit star generation. Lastly her two remaining skills, Lament of the Falsely Living, has a sixty percent chance to stun but does not increase in percentage rate at all, and only decreases the enemies defense for one turn, and Overload, which increases her NP damage, but causes her to be hit with the Burn status effect. Basically, Fran has no strengths whatsoever, and is more of a detriment to herself and your time if you use her, which isn't helped by her low HP and damage stat compared to other 4* Berserkers.
    • And finally, concerning the 5* Servants:
      • Curiously what happened to the poster girl of the Fate franchise, Altria Pendragon, due to suffering from early game design. As a result, she has lackluster skills like bog-standard Charisma and, worse, Instinctnote . Her HP is good, but her attack is below average in a game that's very offensively based. Her NP also carries no interesting side effects apart from the overcharge of restoring NP gauge, but the value is too low to make it spammable with her card and skill setup. Many players prefer to use her own Alter form or Arthur, who has a higher multiplier on her NP and higher attack at an equal level, or a situationally-useful slaying skill instead of a vanilla Charisma, respectively. All in all, on paper she's an effective Servant, but almost every other 5* and many 4* Sabers have the edge on her in some manner.
      • Amakusa is disliked because players were expecting more from him after his role in Apocrypha, but he got hit hard with Redemption Demotion, and players mostly dislike his mediocre attack (which doesn't benefit from any aspect of the Class triangles outside of a very particular edge case) and one hit AoE NPnote . Even his personal Bond CE couldn't help him. He's only considered useful if you need an AoE buff removal. However, the meme regarding his inability to clear EXP hands on his own was countered when he received an NP interlude and a Buster buff, allowing him to deal enough to clear them. Also, as the game has progressed, his true strength has started to shine in challenge quests with his ability to clear all enemy buffs, deal neutral damage and resist most enemy classes... but most of the time, he'll still be warming the bench.
      • Nightingale is a support unit whose job is to heal, buff, and debuff with her NP (and on paper her skills and NP are such that she could be a top-tier support) but she's heavily hindered by being a Berserker, meaning she's unlikely to survive long enough to get more than one use of each of her skills out. She really needs a tank for her support to do any good and even as a Berserker and with a skill that boosts her damage, her damage is pitiful. Worse, her most useful skill was made completely obsolete by the addition of Merlin, who can also do a three turn Buster buff but also boosts max HP and critical damage at the same time.
      • Mysterious Heroine X (Alter) is considered to be the worst SSR Berserker as she has relatively low attack, a quick-centered card set without the star generation for it and very weak skills that do little for herself or others. During the Second Anniversary, however, the infamously terrible Instinct was replaced with a Quick buff that also happens to generate more stars than her old skill did.
      • Caster of Nightless City (Scheherazade) was mocked within minutes of her skills being revealed, boasting a garbage set of skills and a damage output lower than Phantom of the Opera (as a reminder: Phantom is three rarity tiers under her). Her attack stat is actually lower than that of Jeanne d'Arc, a pure tank character, yet her skills indicate that she's supposed to be a damage dealer despite the Caster class' 0.9 damage multiplier reducing her effective attack even further. It's bad enough that players half jokingly speculate that the entire reason she was introduced was to make the Caster gacha less appealing by adding in a dud SSR given that all the other SSR Casters are good to great. While her Noble Phantasm's unique overcharge ability, dealing extra damage to enemy servants with the King trait, does make her stand out a bit amongst other the other casters with an AOE Noble Phantasm, most of the enemies with the King trait also take extra damage from other trait-based noble phantasms.
      • Strangely enough, Swimsuit Altria Alter gets this. She has good skills (both active and passive) which makes her NP hit hard, it's just that her NP gain doesn't fit with the kit that she got. However many people have been treating her as a Tier-Induced Scrappy due to the fact that vanilla Swimsuit Altria is a lot better with her Spam Attack and her being compared to other SSR Riders that deal more damage than her, on top of the fact that Alter already had a (very popular) free Rider version and she debuted alongside Summer Ishtar, who is another Rider with an extremely useful, powerful kit.
  • Tough Act to Follow:
    • Many Servants, being Public Domain characters, find themselves being compared to other versions of themselves from other games or anime.
    • Several events are much loved and constantly compared to events that come later.
      • The 2015 Halloween event was the first big event of the game with a free Servant for players, multiple Craft Essences that were obtainable in the shop that were considered useful even outside of the event, a new map with cosmetically changed enemies to fit with new music to boot, a hilarious story with several fan favorites and some neglected Servants getting their own time to shine, lots of quests to do, the release of the insanely popular Tamamo for the limited gacha, and most players managed to obtain all items in the shop, cementing this as one of the most fondly remembered events.
      • "GUDAGUDA Honnouji" was loved mainly for its enemies, the Chibi Nobus who are drawn in the Koha-Ace artstyle and only say "Nobu." The hilarious story written by keikenchi, the author of Koha-Ace, was also well received. Okita and Nobunaga's popularity got the event a rerun, and later a sequel.
      • The Christmas events are unanimously loved for their raffle boxes, with easy farming of the tokens needed for it meaning it's an easy way of getting money, ascension items, apples and EXP. And every free Servant given out were incredibly helpful for farming and even general gameplay.
      • "Garden of Order" is liked for its mission based system of unlocking nodes which many considered superior to grinding for points like the Honnouji or Saber Wars event. It was also the first proper crossover with another property and many players leaped at the opportunity to obtain Ryougi Shiki and the Craft Essences depicting their favorite Kara no Kyoukai characters. Some players even rolled for the Craft Essences only, since they were depicting characters in gorgeous art drawn by ufotable staff members.
      • "Fate/Accel Zero Order" is also loved because of how easy it was to farm QP (money) because of the great exchange rates of event currency to QP. The story is also well-loved with fan favorites like Iskander, Zhuge Liang, EMIYA (Assassin), and Angra Mainyu having big roles.
    • The Camelot Singularity has some of the games strongest writing, and gameplay wise has some of the toughest fights in the game. For those reasons, it tends to be very positively received by the community, to the point where most story chapters after are directly compared to Camelot. Not helping is that the next story Singularity, Babylonia, also was well received by the community, meaning any story chapter has to somehow equal the two to be considered good.

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  • Unexpected Character:
    • Well, cute animal companions might be dime-a-dozen in mobage, but nobody, absolutely nobody expected Fou to be Primate Murder of all things.
    • No one expected Zouken to show up in any arc and have a role due to everyone on modern-day Earth dying and the apparent lack of connection to the human characters of past Fate works.
    • Pseudo-Servants were a radically new concept introduced in this game and so the main Servant used to introduce it, Waver Velvet as possessed by Zhuge Liang, was a major shock for the fanbase.
    • Edison is the first non-event Servant that wasn't from the original datamined list of Servants not hailing from an event and thus is completely new to players. It doesn't help that his appearance was even more unexpected.
    • Nightingale's class was unmentioned in datamining but it was speculated that she would be a Ruler or a Caster, instead of being the class that's most associated with violence and rage. The explanation is because she will stop at nothing to save her patients, clouding her focus and giving her a mentality similar to a Berserker.
    • Very few (if there are any) actually considered that Martha would be granted the Ruler class—especially for a lighthearted event like Chaldea Summer.
    • Since Tristan had no apparent connection to Fate/Extra or its sequel beyond being tentatively connected to Gawain as a comrade, his inclusion in SE.RA.PH came as a surprise to players.
    • Most savvy players thought that Mysterious Heroine X would be released as part of an April Fools event, but instead she's one of the stars of "Saber Wars".
    • While discovered in the initial datamining, nobody expected Irisviel to be the free 4* servant of "Fate/Accel Zero Order" or for there to even be a free Servant for the event.
    • Most people expected "the monkey" Hideyoshi himself to appear in another GUDAGUDA event, as he has already appeared in previous comics by keikenchi as a Saber. If it was Hideyoshi's wife making an appearance as a Servant, they thought it would be Nene, the more popular and recognizable one. Instead we got Chacha.
    • While a Christmas event Servant was expected, most people were expecting Iskandar (as he's already a bright red, hammy, huge bearded guy on a chariot) or Nero (who actually had a Santa design in Fate/Extra side materials), not Altria Alter who didn't seem like the type of person who would work as Santa.
    • After 2015, some folks figured it'd be Jeanne getting the next Santa version, as she's the third leading lady alongside Mash and Altria. An attentive few, especially on re-reading the quest during the rerun of the event in 2016, wondered if it might not be Jeanne Alter and a running joke of Santa Alters being established. Nobody, nobody expected an "Alter Santa Lily" as a Self-Deprecation meta-joke on the concept and proliferation of alternate versions of Fate heroes over the years.
    • While Holmes' inclusion was expected since his appearance in Camelot, no one predicted that he'd become a Ruler-class Servant since he didn't seem to have the temperament or skills to be one.
    • Not many expected Riyo's joke Servants to make it in-game, which is why Paul Bunyan's inclusion was so damn surprising. Even better, she's the first new bronze Servant since launch!
    • Although mentioned in materials under EMIYA's relationships, Sengo Muramasa's inclusion in Shimosa came out of nowhere, especially with his possession of Emiya Shirou's body as a Pseudo-Servant.
    • The robot versions of Bathory were a surprise to players, especially her being an Alter Ego and having two different versions. Though they're exactly the same gameplay-wise, their personalities and profiles are different.
    • While Abigail's inclusion as a SSR Servant for Salem is unsurprising, it is her new Foreigner Class that was a surprise for players.
    • Altera the Sun(ta). It seems to be a tradition for "Santa" Servants to be unexpected. Most players expected another Alter or Saber-face Servant to be the third Santa and then when the event was announced, most speculated that the next Santa would be someone who appeared in Babylonia but didn't get an event bonus (most expected Quetzacoatl or King Hassan). However, when the event rolled out, it turned out the Santa was Altera, someone who was completely unexpected.
    • For the New Year's 2018 limited Servant, a lot of people were expecting/hoping for Sengo Muramasa, despite the emphasis that he was a one-time thing in Shimosa. Others anticipated perhaps a Round Table Knight or someone else who might be relevant to part 2 based on what little was known. Absolutely nobody expected Katsushika Hokusai, and especially not as a Foreigner, since she's so hot off the heels of the first Foreigner.
    • The Garden of Order -revival- event would give us our second Kara no Kyoukai servant after Shiki Ryougi. It could've been another major character for the storyline like Touko Aozaki or Lio Shirazumi. Instead, we got Fujino Asagami. While she's a huge fan-favorite and ridiculously powerful, she still only served as a major antagonist for one chapter. Adding to this unexpected factor is that up until then, re-run events have never added a brand new Servant.
    • Many people were expecting the Caster of Lostbelt to be the already revealed Anastasia, so the reveal of an entirely new character caught many people off guard.
    • Adding another Avenger was something that wasn't entirely out of the realm of possibility in Cosmos in the Lostbelt. Adding Antonio Salieri as a 3 star, on the other hand, was something no one would've seen coming. Salieri himself is pretty out of blue. On his first appearance, people thought such a creature of shadow with a blade could instead be Hattori Hanzo. When he showed musical movement, the first thought was something of 'Mozart Alter', but it turned out to be Salieri.

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  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Many Servants added after launch have really well-animated attack and Noble Phantasm animations, far more so than the launch Servants, with Rider Kintoki being one of the best examples since he has nine different animations depending on what kind of attack chain you chose.
    • That being said, Gilgamesh's updated animations added in time for the Fate/Zero event are truly impressive, and capture his in-story sense of overwhelming power far more than his original animations did.
    • Jeanne, Waver, and Vlad have their animations upgraded and all of them are really awesome, but especially Vlad's.
    • Nero's new animations are fluid and reminiscent of her attack animations from Fate/Extra and Fate/Extella.
    • Altera's new animations portray her overwhelming power and grace as the Scourge of God.
    • All the updated animations for Servants from Fate/stay night have several attacks from the visual novel, ufotable's anime adaptations and even the fighting game all faithfully replicated in great detail.

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  • The Woobie: While a lot of Servants had their own Woobie qualities, Mata Hari takes the cake. On top of her original life that was full of suffering, she's summoned as an extremely weak Servant that is unlikely to win a Holy Grail War that would grant her wish... of getting a simple, happy life. And she still keeps up the happy-go-lucky cheerful Servant attitude.
    • Bedivere, holy hell. The Bedivere that appears in this game is from an Alternate Universe where he failed to bring himself to return Excalibur to the Lady of the Lake, which prevented Altria from reaching Avalon after death and instead caused her to roam the world as a spirit. Without Excalibur, she relied on her lance, Rhongomyniad, until the holy lance eventually overwrote her personality and transformed her into the Lion King, the Big Bad of the Camelot Singularity. With this knowledge, Bedivere was stuck with Excalibur and its anti-aging ability, causing him to wander for 1500 years to try to return Excalibur to Altria and set things right. His journey led him to Merlin, who sent him to the Camelot singularity, morphing the holy sword into an artificial arm for him to use as a Noble Phantasm — at the cost of it burning out his already-strained soul with each use. He also had the full knowledge that accomplishing his goal would lead to a Cessation of Existence for him due to his soul being torn apart, and yet chose to go through with it anyway at the end of the singluarity. Fortunately, the universe finally decided to give him a break and accepted him into the Throne of Heroes based on his acts of heroism in the singularity, allowing him to finally, finally earn his happy ending.
  • Woolseyism: Despite the roughness of the official English translation, there are some dialogue that have been popular with many. A notable example is Marie's "Wh... Whassup! My homies!".
    • Another example would be the English title of Xuanzang's event. The Japanese title was actually a reference to Coming to America explanation ; while many fans simply referred to it as Journey to the West, when it was localized, the event was given the name "Sanzang Coming to the West", keeping the reference.
  • WTH, Costuming Department?:
    • Swimsuit Altria's third outfit seems to mirror the regular version's third outfit with a cape and crown, except the Archer version's only wearing a swimsuit so the large fur-trimmed cape, crown, heels and multiple ribbons all look very out of place, to the point she looks more like a beauty pageant winner than a fighting Servant... which may very well be the gag.
    • Mordred's final ascension costume makes little sense, both with the progress of the first two stages, and her discomfort/hatred for revealing her identity or sex. Going from full bodied armor to a skirt, heels, and scrap of cloth to cover the breasts seems out of nowhere design-wise, even if it's assumed this is what she actually wears under her armor.
      • This seems to be what the progression is going for, both outfit and character development-wise — her outfit change may signify that she is getting over her discomfort over her identity due to her loyalty to her Master (her Bond 5 dialog seems to confirm this).
    • Parodied with Brave Liz's outfit. Not only is it a prime example of Chainmail Bikini, but the top half of it seems two sizes too big (in the card art, her gameplay sprite has it fit well enough, possibly to avoid a wardrobe malfunction). It's especially noticeable in that Liz usually wears puffy idol-inspired dresses that tend toward the modest side.

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