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Fandom Rivalry

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"We take the last steps to war!
'Cause our movie's better than yours!"

Two long-running shows or two star actors inspire dueling fandoms. Fans of one are expected to become Fan Haters of the other, and vice versa. The contrasting merits of both will rarely be acknowledged. Anyone who likes both will be accused of Fandom Heresy. This can easily go on despite the creators' Word of God that they kind of like the other show or the actors making friendly appearances together (Tabloid Melodrama aside). When this gets into full gear expect copious amounts of Hypocritical Fandom. Of course there will be those that hate both.

In some instances, this is the result of a new fandom displacing an older one. For example, Henry Jenkins notes in his book Textual Poachers that the emergence of an American Blake's 7 fandom was ideally timed to capitalize on institutional conflicts within Doctor Who fandom (which shared its focus on a British series) and declining interest in Star Wars (which shared its interest in stories about La Résistance). This also happens when one show is perceived by one fandom as a rip-off of their favorite show.


It is of course, fully possible for die-hard fans of one "rival" show to enjoy another, and being a member of one fandom does not exclude you from being a member of the other.

Often involves Dueling Works. Compare Internet Backdraft, Ship-to-Ship Combat. See Broken Base for when fandoms have civil wars amongst themselves. May involve Hypocritical Fandom if a show gets bashed by fans of a rival for having flaws that also exist in the rival show. Contrast Friendly Fandoms. Usually features Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny.


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  • SUV drivers vs EV or hybrid drivers. The later sees the former as wasteful and self-centered. The former sees the later as whiny and effeminate.
  • The Nissan Leaf vs. the Chevrolet Volt, being that they are currently the two main choices for an electric car, the two cars that ranked the highest in safety for 2011, and that the Volt won Motor Trend American Car of the Year while the Leaf won European car of the year, both in 2011.
    • There's also the issue of whether or not the Chevrolet Volt counts as an "Electric" car, or if it's a Hybrid. Both sides of the argument point to the combustion generator in the Chevrolet Volt vs the pure battery electric Nissan Leaf, despite both having a pure electric drive train. In the end it boils down to the Leaf driver saying "It's not electric, it's just a stupid hybrid." and the Volt driver replying "Is so electric, and the generator give it a further range while still using less gas then a pure gasoline car would!" That's right. Electric car drivers will argue over where the electricity comes from.
    • It's worth noting that the Chevrolet Bolt is a pure battery-powered EV like the Leaf or every Tesla model, while the Volt is a plug-in hybrid with a gasoline engine, more akin to a Civic Hybrid or a Prius.
    • Tesla in general vs. everybody else. They're credited with making the pure battery electric car not just a Cool Car (which the Leaf, Bolt, Volt and Prius are decidedly not), but something that will out-accelerate most gas-powered supercars from 0 to 60, on top of being more technologically sophisticated and having far more frequently updated software for the in-car systems than their rivals. However, their emphasis on form over function in some design aspects and their fanbase have drawn them some very unflattering comparisons to Apple, on top of certain car owners insisting that only real cars run on fossil fuels. Software bugs and insecurity concerns have also earned Tesla more than a few detractors.
  • Holden vs Ford in Australia - both companies have a long history in the country, and there is also spillover from their rivalry on the racing circuit. The Ford Falcon vs. Holden Commodore rivalry in particular parallels the Ford Mustang vs. Chevrolet Camaro rivalry in the US.
    Too bad the Australian government killed off their domestic auto industry entirely..
  • Harley-Davidson Vs Indian Motorcycles. Vicious when both companies where still around, still exists to some degree among classic motorcycle collectors.
    • Also Harleys versus Japanese bikes. The former calls the latter "rice-burners," while the latter says they call them Harleys because they Harley ever run.
  • Chevrolet vs. Ford is probably the great granddaddy of automotive rivalries in the US, especially for pickups. Foreign vs. domestic used to start fistfights in the 70s and 80s, but that feud has mellowed a bit over time. A bit.
    "Foreign" cars are still banned from the parking lot of the headquarters of the United Auto Workers union in Detroit, though what's "foreign" and what's "domestic" has blurred quite a bit in more recent times, particularly with General Motors' penchant for rebranding an import with a domestic marque - one of the better-known examples being the Pontiac G8/Chevrolet SS actually being an Australian-made Holden Commodore.
    • Nothing highlights this rivalry more than the Ford Mustang vs. the Chevrolet Camaro, the latter of which was introduced by General Motors as "a small, vicious animal that eats Mustangs", squarely intended as their competitor in the "pony car" market segment that Ford just created.
    • In the southern states of the USA, pickups might as well be a way of life, and Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge rivalries are intense. Each has extensive aftermarket parts catalogs, devoted fans, rabid detractors, and enough fandumb to fill the flatbed of every truck in Texas.
      Hoping to capitalize on the sales of pickups in the southern states, Toyota built a plant to build its line in San Antonio, Texas. Toyota hoped to make their trucks seem more "genuinely southern" to consumers. Despite good reviews from automotive magazines and critics, the hoped-for cultural shift to accept the Tundra as a "real good ol' boy pickup" hasn't really happened as of 2015, especially after the F-150, Ram, and Silverado all underwent significant quality improvement.
      But for what it's worth, Toyota's Tonka Tough reputation for their pickups has not gone unnoticed in the South; the pre-Tacoma "Pickup" (the Hilux nameplate was never used in the US) of the '80s and early '90s is in consistent demand on the used market, for those who favor compact pickup trucks over full-size models.
  • Pontiac Fiero GT vs. Toyota MR2. This plays a bit into the American "domestic vs. import" debate, this time over who provided the better mid-engine, two-seat, rear-wheel-drive sporty coupe with a fuel-efficient engine and the most '80s styling one can muster.
    The Fiero was introduced in 1984 as an economy car, effectively Nerfed from its original intent as a high-performance car that would have compromised the Chevrolet Corvette being reintroduced that year, and the Corvette is effectively GM's Sacred Cow. It wasn't given the intended V6 until the next year on the Fiero GT variant, and the original 1984 models had some faulty engine components used that led to spontaneous combustion that tarnished its reputation despite being fixed in later model years. It also didn't have the intended performance suspension until 1988 - the final year of production, as GM killed the Fiero right as they finally got it right.
    The MR2, on the other hand, saw much more success over the years with expected Toyota reliability, well-tuned suspension and handling, and actually getting two more generations into the '90s onward. The early AW11 generation even shares the 4A-GE engine with the famed AE86, with an optional supercharger on some models, and the later SW20 generation offered even more power and turbocharger options, with additional tendency for snap oversteer that only a skilled driver would correct.
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution vs. Subaru Impreza WRX STI, obviously. They're high performance rally cars built for the WRC, and having huge fanbases for each side. They're also the ones captured by the tuner markets, and were brought over by their respective makers to the global attention. However, the rivalry ended in 2014 when Mitsubishi Motors announced the discontinuation of Lancer Evolution line due to it being a commercial failure, leaving Subaru alone to develop their own WRX STI line.
    • The German-made Audi S3 Sedan can be considered a Spiritual Successor to the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution line, utilizing the similar engine and drivetrain configurations, except it abandoned the huge rear-wing in favor of more-streamlined, Rosemeyer-style approach.
  • In Japan, there is a giant rivalry between the Nissan Skyline (R34) and the Toyota Supra (JZA80). They are both high performance Japanese cars that feature a high-output inline-6 engine. Both are also popular among the tuner crowd.
  • In Germany, it's BMW vs Mercedes. Audi has somewhat entered the stage, but may be ignored.
    • With younger people it is often the current Golf GTI vs whatever Opel offers in the segment.
  • Generally, mentioning that you like either European, American, or Japanese cars on any automotive forum will get you flak from fans of the other two camps. If you like American cars, prepare to hear numerous Eagle Land "yank tank" and "your car can't turn" comments. If you like Japanese cars, prepare to hear Rice Burner, "tiny wimpy" and "no torque" comments. If you like European cars, prepare to hear "whiny rich-kids" and "poor reliability" comments.

    Comic Books 
  • Perhaps the second most enduring example is Marvel Comics vs. DC Comics. Debates on who has the better characters, who has the more well-rounded characters, which treats the talent better, and of course, the inevitable movie successes can get bloodied, and annoying for people who don't care about this sort of thing.
    • Robert Downey Jr., the star of Iron Man, even publicly smacktalked The Dark Knight (but see below).
    • Particularly ironic given that Marvel and DC have done several crossovers.
    • Both sides' parent companies effectively made this rivalry an extension of another one mentioned below (namely, Disney vs. Warner Bros.)
  • Batman fans vs. Superman fans.
    • Later on, this has been expanded into Batman fans vs. fans of other DC superheroes.
  • Hulk fans vs Thor fans
  • Not as pronounced as it once was but Wolverine fans and Spider-Man fans used to have large grudges against one another.
  • Wolverine fans and The Punisher fans also have one, fueled by that one time their respective writers used to regularly exchange jabs at the other.
  • Teen Titans vs Young Justice. This one began when DC decided to restore the classic Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans - and did so by taking the current Teen Titans and Young Justice books and merging them together. The transition was, shall we say, less than seamless. Young Justice fans were upset because their Lighter and Softer book had been cancelled, with favorite cast members Put on a Bus, and some of the survivors being written as far different characters. Teen Titans fans were upset because they had also lost favorite cast members (and two of them were killed), and now their book had been taken over by what they considered to be a Spotlight-Stealing Squad, the YJ4. Being upset over the same thing, but for different reasons, a rivalry sparked. Sometimes more fuel gets tossed on the old fire, such as the animated adaptions trading tones, or the New 52 having no sign of the original Kid Flash or Wonder Girl.
  • Crisis on Infinite Earths divided the DC Comics fandom between fans and haters of the Pre-Crisis multiverse, mostly depending on whether you began reading comics before or after the crossover. Discussions between this two groups could become pretty nasty at times.
    • It's important to also note that most readers (although there are exceptions) are fans of the Pre Crisis and the Post-Crisis universe. However, fans of the Post-Crisis universe are divided over those who think pre-Crisis comics were just as enjoyable as Post-Crisis ones, versus those who think everything Pre-Crisis was immature, shallow kiddie stuff.
    • This dispute is now further complicated by the New 52 reboot, which means that the DC Fan Dumb is now divided into three camps: Pre Crisis; Post Crisis/Pre-New 52; and Post New 52.
  • Within the Marvel fandom, there is a divide between fans that only read X-Men comics, and the fans that read everything else but the X-Men.
  • Green Lantern: Hal Jordan fans vs. Kyle Rayner fans, with outlying John Stewart and Guy Gardner factions.
  • The Sonic the Hedgehog fanbase has two comics pitted against each other. The American Archie comics and the British Fleetway one.
  • Avengers fans vs. fans of Brian Michael Bendis, when Bendis started writing Avengers books. Some longtime fans took issue with Bendis' perceived lack of respect for the franchise. Fan objections didn't seem to hurt sales much, though — when Bendis left the franchise in 2012, he had written the Avengers for 8 years and approximately 232 issues.
  • Avengers fans vs. X-Men fans, particularly from the latter side, who widely see Marvel as neglecting the X-Men in favor of the Avengers due to only having the film rights for the latter team and many of its characters. In 2012, there was actually an Avengers vs. X-Men mega-crossover.
    • This has spilled over into the film franchises as well. There's been many a debate over which franchise has the better movies, with many from the Marvel Cinematic Universe side wanting Fox to lose their rights in order to absorb the X-Men into the MCU. Not helping matters was the legal gray area concerning the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, two characters synonymous with both franchises. This led to loads of debates over which franchise "deserves" the twins more. Quicksilver in particular has been cast for both Avengers: Age of Ultron and X-Men: Days of Future Past. The fact that the MCU Quicksilver was Killed Off for Real at the end of his debut film, (though many speculate it may just be a Comic Book Death) is often seen as Disney's way of saying they didn't need Quicksilver.
  • Avengers Arena vs. Runaways, Avengers Academy, and Sentinel fans (despite Arena featuring characters from all of those comics). Basically Arena is a Contested Sequel to those comics with the Audience-Alienating Premise of the The Hunger Games/Battle Royale meets the youth of the Marvel verse. Fans of the characters mostly hate Arena and its Kill the C listers premise, along with its fans who don't seem to care about characters from critical darling books being wasted in a Follow the Leader book, while fans of Arena for the most part just want to enjoy the story without being bogged down by countinity or having to listen to Academy and Runaways fans complain about the deaths.
    • Thanks to X-23 being in the series and their Friendly Fandoms status with Runaways and Academy fans, fans of New X-Men don't hold many warm feelings for Avengers Arena either. Notable that is seems to reach on both sides of their Broken Base — fans of Weir & DeFilipis' run hate Arena for the same reasons they hate Kyle & Yost's run, while fans of Kyle & Yost's run see Arena as shallow attempt at replicating its success that's Completely Missing the Point.
    • And then there are fans of Deathmatch - Boom! Studios series with similiar premise of superheroes fighting each other to death, that had been announced some time after Arena, leading to many accusations of stealing the idea. Which was unlikely, because Deathmatch appeared way to quickly after Arena, and writer Paul Jenkins said the sole reason he went to do Deathmatch at Boom! was that he thought neither Marvel or DC would let him publish book like this under their banner. Fans of Deathmatch, when faced with accusations of "stealing" from Arena either point out they don't really have that much in common or embrace it and say that yes, Deathmatch does the same thing as Avengers Arena. Only better.
    • Despite being written by the same creator, even some fans of Cable & X-Force hate Arena.
  • Fans of post Annihilation Cosmic Marvel and fans of Jonathan Hickman can get quite vocal against each other. It generally boils down to whether you like Hickman's stories enough to pass on the fact he quickly undid everything Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning established for many characters and teams, that didn't fit his vision.
  • There is a clear division between Marvel fans who prefer The '60s Marvel and those who prefer The '70s and beyond. Stan Lee was the driving force during the sixties with his distinctive writing style. He wrote most if not all of the comics during the early years. There is also the debate over how much Lee actually wrote. The 70s had a new glut of writers such as Marv Wolfman, Bill Mantlo, Chris Claremont, and Steve Gerber, all of whom dispensed with Lee's over the top, hip, chummy style. To many advocates of 70s Marvel, Lee's co-creations seem flat and one dimensional. To many advocates of 60s Marvel, the 70s introduced too many violent antiheroes.
  • Fans of Maximum Ride: The Manga versus fans of Max Ride: First Flight, over which one is the better adaptation of the source material.
  • X-Men fans vs Inhumans fans. Originally the two didn't mind each other, but after a massive marketing push by Marvel billing the Inhumans as "the next big thing!", the two seemingly can't stand each other. This stems from the Inhumans going from their own unique thing to being Suspiciously Similar Substitutes for the entire mutant race, which many feel is because of Marvel not owning the film rights to the X-Men.
    • There's also fighting over the writer of the main Inhuman, and later Uncanny Inhumans series, Charles Soule. With the announcement that Brian Michael Bendis would be leaving the X-books, and the lack of any announcement on who would follow him, or even if a new X-book will exist, many X-fans want Charles Soule on the X-books. This is due to him already being a fan favorite writer, and the fact that he penned Death of Wolverine. This hope got thrashed by the All-New, All-Different Marvel announcements (X-Books are by various writers but Jeff Lemire got two and is the main X-writer, while Charles Soule still writes the main Inhumans book, and is even getting another one: All-New Inhumans), but Soule would eventually write Astonishing X-Men once he left the Inhumans books (though by this point, neither fandom particularly wanted him).
    • For that matter, "classic" Inhumans fans and "modern" Inhumans fans, mostly coming from the older fans who think the new breed destroyed the concept in the name of pandering to a nonexistent fanbase, and the newer ones who think the old Inhumans were an embarrassing relic that nobody really cared about.
    • The aforementioned marketing push explicitly put Inhumans at odds against Mutants, with the Inhumans presented as in the right, in a manner not unlike the controversial Avengers vs X-men event. This was a major factor in putting the fandoms at odds.
  • Deathmate and its Creator Killer status for Valiant Comics engendered an eternal loathing between fans of it and Image Comics, whose Schedule Slip doomed the event. Not helping this is that very few of Image's books from that era were as well-regarded as Valiant's, so on top of being responsible, they were also the group that many would have preferred gone. Even if the Image of today is nothing like the one that turned Deathmate into a failure, "It Should Have Been You" is a powerful feeling.
  • Superman:
    • Pre-Crisis Superman fans vs Post-Crisis Superman fans. Many advocates of the Pre-Crisis Superman think their hero was turned into a whiny wimp, his world became darker and duller and his backstory more convoluted; and they hate the way many iconic characters and large chunks of the mythos were removed because some creative types didn't care for Supergirl, Superboy, Krypto, Kryptonian lore or the Legion of Super-Heroes. Many advocates of the Post-Crisis Superman dismiss the classic stories and characters prior to 1985 as kiddie, dumb stuff.
    • Pre-Flashpoint Superman fans vs New 52 Superman fans. Many fans of pre-Flashpoint Supes hate that the New 52 Superman is an angry, violent Superman who dates Wonder Woman and wears an armoured costume. Fans of the New 52 Superman think the old Superman is a cheesy boy scout whose relationship with Lois Lane was played out and that his costume was embarrassing. The comics eventually sided with the pre-Flashpoint fans, revealing that New 52 Superman (and Lois) was only half a character, and merging them with the married Lois and Clark who survived the previous universe. As of Action Comics #1,000, even the trunks are back!
    • With Supergirl, there are the Kara Zor-El fans vs Linda Danvers fans. The first - and considerably larger - group isn't particularly interested in a Supergirl that isn't Superman's Kryptonian cousin (although they usually respect Linda). The second group refuses to consider that other Supergirls may be good and worthwhile characters and bash Kara at every turn. (And everyone hates Cir-El.)
  • The fans of particular Robins can get pretty intense with fans of a different Robin, though it's not uncommon to find people who like multiple Robins (though it's rarer to find fans of all).
    • This is particularly true between Dick Grayson fans and Jason Todd fans, since the characters are polar opposites, with one being the favorite son and a Nice Guy, while the other is the unfavorite and an anti-hero. Dick fans see Jason as a badly written "edgy" character while Jason fans see Dick as too nice and spoiled by Bruce.
    • Similarly, Tim Drake fans and Damian Wayne fans tend to not get along, since Tim sought out the role himself and earned it, while Damian essentially gets it through inheritance and has done some very questionable actions as Robin. It doesn't help that Tim was fired to make way for Damian. You will very rarely find Tim fans who like Damian.
    • Jason fans and Damian fans also tend to not get along, due to perceived favoritism for Damian from the Bat-family in-universe and editors out of universe, while Damian fans see Damian as Jason "done right". The two also frequently give each other no holds barred beatdowns, which doesn't help matters.
  • For The Flash, it's Barry Allen fans vs. Wally West fans. There are some Barry fans who never accepted his death and will always see him as the one true Flash, and dislike Wally's dickish attitude when he started out (older Flash fans may be fine with Wally but still tend to think of him as Kid Flash while Barry is the real Flash). Wally fans were fine with Barry at first (aside from those who found him boring), but after his return and the resulting demotion of Wally, they started hating him. Both sides tend to be feel pretty positively about Jay Garrick, who is the Cool Old Guy and Honorary Granddad to all speedsters.

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    Films — Live-Action 
  • Pirates of the Caribbean and The Lord of the Rings can be construed as an Orlando Bloom tug-of-war (he's Will Turner and Legolas respectively).
  • You don't even have to leave the Pirates fandom to find a rivalry. Johnny Depp fans love to attack Orlando Bloom fans on some forums, because they think Bloom is trying to copy him (apparently bearing a slight physical resemblance to someone = trying to be him in some minds). And then there's the ship wars that break out over who Elizabeth should have ended up with.
  • The Dark Knight Saga fans have achieved rivalries with a long list of film fans:
    • Because they were both superhero movies released in 2008 that became extremely successful, a small rivalry developed between fans of Iron Man and The Dark Knight. While the rivalry seemed to be pretty friendly (most fans were too happy to get two good superhero movies in one year and saw both), a small faction seemed to need to bolster their favorite movie by bashing the other. TDK fans accused IM of being a standard issue Marvel popcorn flick with an over-hyped Robert Downey Jr.. IM fans hit back by saying that TDK was a brooding, pretentious movie that forgot it was supposed to be fun, and featured an over-hyped (and dead) Heath Ledger.
    • The Marvel vs. DC rivalry probably didn't help.
    • It seems that the overarching Marvel Cinematic Universe now has a rivalry with the entire The Dark Knight Saga since The Dark Knight Rises is going to be released around the same time as The Avengers.
    • The original Spider-Man Trilogy and X-Men films have seen an influx of Dark Knight fans flooding message boards since those movies are often seen as some of the best comicbook movies, regardless if the films are still being made or not.
    • Avatar and Dark Knight fans have fought over whether or not one film deserved more Oscars than the other (mentioned more in depth below).
    • Another The Dark Knight Saga rivalry has sparked with fans of the Burton directed Batman movies. Particularly over whether Jack Nicholson or Heath Ledger is better as The Joker (then there are those who like Caesar Romero, clown-whited-out mustache and all).
    • And yet another one-sided rivarly has sprung up with TDKS fans trolling The Hobbit-related message boards, apparently since The Dark Knight Rises is geared to be the big film of 2012 alongside The Hobbit'. So far, most Hobbit fans seemed more dismayed than anything. Of course, a couple of years later, people saying anything good about The Hobbit'' series are few and far between.
    • The Amazing Spider-Man is also set to come out in the same season, resulting in Dark Knight fans trolling their boards as well.
    • There's also a rivalry between The Amazing Spider-Man and The Avengers, even though they're both Marvel properties.
      • To be fair, the movie rights (at the time) weren't Marvel properties and Marvel fans view Spider-Man as an Ash Can Copy. The mixed reception to the second Amazing Spider-Man lead to Sony striking a deal with Marvel and now Spider-Man is slated to appear in the MCU.
    • At least amongst the IMDb boards, Dark Knight fans have also trolled the boards for The Shawshank Redemption and The Godfather films due to those films being rated very high on that website while The Dark Knight is rated (very slightly, mind you) lower. Fans of those movies seem more befuddled than anything and quickly contacted the admins to avoid a Flame War.
      • It has now gotten to the point where many fear that this behavior will do nothing but harm the box office returns for The Dark Knight Rises and the popularity of the series as a whole.
    • Now there appears to have a rather absurd rivalry within the Dark Knight trilogy. Rabid fans of The Dark Knight are sometimes found trolling the boards for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises on IMDb, frustrating a lot of more casual fans.
    • Finally, not only do fans of any given iteration of Superman have to put up with fans of the trilogy doing what they do, but also backlash from fans of other trilogies spewing bile over Man of Steel due to its connection with Nolan.
  • MCU fans and DCEU fans because Marvel vs DC and things never change. It doesn't help that the franchises are different as night and day.
    • The rivalry came to a head with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Captain America: Civil War. It started when the two movies were scheduled to release on the same day until DC moved their movie one month earlier which angered fans. Then the movies came out. BvS was lambasted by critics while Civil War was a critical hit. Not helping was that ,any Civil War reviews fueled the fire by snidely referring back to BvS, using the movie as a platform to get in jabs at Dawn of Justice. DC fans reacted by accusing Marvel of paying critics off and leaving fake reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB. This caused Marvel fans to respond by calling BvS overly pretentious.
    • Even within the MCU, fans of different movies and characters fight with each other over their merits. Notably, some Captain America and Spider-Man fans resent Iron Man for his Wolverine Publicity and accused the character of overshadowing other superheroes since he became major supporting character in both Captain America: Civil War and Spider-Man: Homecoming. Black Widow fans resent how Captain Marvel will be getting her own solo movie first even though Widow had been in the MCU longer. A one-sided rivalry between Black Panther and Spider-Man fans popped up in 2017 with some Black Panther fans expressing outrage that their movie was delayed from November 2017 to February 2018 make room for Spider-Man: Homecoming's release in July 2017. However, since Black Panther was released in Black History Month and has surpassed Homecoming financially, Black Panther fans have (mostly) dropped their gripes and animosity. Even now, the rivalry is more of civil debate about whether Toomes from Homecoming or Killmonger from Black Panther is the better villain.
  • Man of Steel fans vs. fans of the Christopher Reeve movies. The first side is considered a wild pack of ungrateful "highbrows", the other a beehive full of bitter Methuselahs. Of course, plenty of fans like both, but that doesn't matter to the fans engaged in the rivalry.
  • Diary of the Dead fans vs. The Zombie Diaries fans. Ironic since the latter is/was Romero fans.
  • The success of the Twilight movies comparable to many "boy-friendly" franchises has essentially created a battle of the sexes.
    • 30 Days of Night fans and fans of the director David Slade were at odds with Twilight fans because he directed The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Twilight fans worried he he was going to ruin it, while Slade fans believed he would finally make the franchise worth the hype. And there's also a Broken Base regarding the fact that Slade chose to direct Eclipse when he said he didn't even want to touch the franchise.
  • To a certain extent, Star Trek (2009) versus Avatar fans, due to the latter taking a lot of attention at the 2010 Oscars fans feel was stolen away from Trek. This is mainly the younger fans that Star Trek gained, with its hipper, attractive cast and brisker storytelling, as opposed to Cameron's much longer story and more alien world. And that's before we toss in Avatar's (ultimately lost) rivalry with The Hurt Locker at the Oscars.
    • ...which was filmed by Cameron's ex wife, arguably a huge component in why it won.
    • For that matter, fans of the J.J. Verse vs. fans of the classic Trek series. Many of the latter are resentful of the reboot nature of the former, having desired a continuation of the storyline past the Dominion War. They also often accuse the reboot franchise of simply rehashing the previous films (Star Trek: Into Darkness using Khan as the main villain certainly didn't help) rather than doing anything new. Fans of the former frequently cite the slicker visual look and argue the reboot provides a fresh direction for a long-running franchise.
  • Going back to the 1950s, there's always been critical contention over who was the greatest Japanese film director at the time: Kenji Mizoguchi or Akira Kurosawa. Later on, Yasujiro Ozu became known outside of Japan and put a new spin on the debate.
    • So the question is, 'Is Kurosawa, Mizoguchi, or Ozu the greatest Japanese film maker?' Yes.
  • District 9 fans and Avatar fans for a variety of reasons. For one, D9 fans prefer the gritty, dark world of South Africa to the colorful, optimistic world of Pandora and think Avatar stole District's thunder at awards shows at the end of the year. Avatar fans counter that it is more realistic in its take on humanity, more emotionally involving, and better produced than D9.
    • Interestingly, both movies could be seen as a Darker and Edgier or Lighter and Softer take on the other, respectively, which probably fuels the rivalry. (and much overanalysis by film nerds)
  • Fans of The Three Stooges and the Marx Brothers have been somewhat at odds for decades, though most people have agreed to like them both. Same goes for Laurel and Hardy and Charlie Chaplin versus either of the aforementioned comedy acts, or each other.
    • Speaking of Chaplin, fans of Buster Keaton have been at odds with Chaplin fans since the Silent Era, with a lot of Keaton fans seeing Chaplin as over-rated because his fame overshadows Keaton's.
  • Several Youtube comment fights broke out between Christopher Nolan fanboys and James Cameron fanboys on almost every Inception trailer in the weeks running up to the release. This rivalry probably started when The Dark Knight was, in the eyes of many, snubbed for an Oscar nomination, but Avatar was nominated the following year despite also belonging to a usually neglected genre and earned more money, and tempers boiled over when Inception hype reached fever pitch.
    • And just like Avatar and The Hurt Locker above, Inception fans also hold a grudge against The King's Speech following the 2011 Oscars.
    • A few vocal Inception fans also have a grudge with Nine Inch Nails fans; they feel that The Social Network shouldn't have won the Oscar for best soundtrack because "it's just 4 notes on the piano", despite many people being fans of Inception, The Social Network and Nine Inch Nails
  • Godzilla fans, mostly between fans of the Japanese movies vs. the American remake, you have to praise one and hate the other because you cannot like both.
    • To a lesser extent Showa Era Godzilla (1954-1975) fans vs. Heisei Era Godzilla (1984-1995) fans. At rare times both types of fans will go after Millennium Era Godzilla (1999-2004) fans, mostly the ones that liked Godzilla: Final Wars due to its poor box office reception and lackluster reviews.
    • Godzilla vs. Gamera, sometimes mixing in Clover from Cloverfield. Godzilla fans often boast about how much darker and financially successful their movies are while Gamera fans boast that their 90s movies got more high quality reviews than most of Godzilla's movies.
    • Fans that often argue toward one another on how Godzilla's Revenge, Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla, the 1998 American remake, or Godzilla: Final Wars as the worst Godzilla movie ever for various reasons all over the place including over used stock footage (Revenge), bad music (Space Godzilla), adaption rape (remake and Final Wars), lackluster action (Revenge and Final Wars), ripping off ideas from other movies (remake and Final Wars), bland story and/or characters (all of them), bad dubbing even worse than usual (Revenge and Space Godzilla), bad updated appearances or the monsters themselves be them new or old (Revenge, remake, and Final Wars).
  • Godzilla (2014):.
    • A minor one with Man of Steel, with jokes about how Godzilla's battles with the MUTOs apparently caused less property damage than Superman's battle with Zod.
    • There's one with Pacific Rim revolving around debates over which stylistic approach is best for a Kaiju film, the fantastical and lighthearted one for Pacific Rim or the realistic and dark one for Godzilla. Although there's a sizeable portion of people -including Del Toro himself- who'd love to see a crossover.
      • The Godzilla fanbase in general is either friendly with Pacific Rim fans, united in their love of kaiju — or would like them to piss them off because Godzilla is a genuine Japanese kaiju property, not an imitation, and would so totally own all the robots and creatures in that film. It didn't help that Godzilla had sequels immediately greenlit after its box office debut while Pacific Rim's sequel lingered in development hell until it was finally announced in 2016.
  • DC Extended Universe has many rivals that aren't named Marvel
    • Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When Wonder Woman was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financiallynote  successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Frank Miller, Richard Donner, and Christopher Nolan. Likewise, Aquaman was released the following year and received a better critical reception compared to Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. However, some fans of Zack Snyder (director of Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman) have accused Wonder Woman and Aquaman of "selling out" by adopting a more optimistic tone and abandoning the unique Darker and Edgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to some Wonder Woman and Aquaman fans firing back at these detractors for either refusing or failing to acknowledge that a dark tone doesn't automatically result in a good film and that directors Patty Jenkins and James Wan deliberately choose to make their movies more light-hearted by their own volition. Furthermore, Superman fans were riled when SHAZAM! (2019) director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the infamous "Save Martha!" scene from Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans took his comments at face value.note 
    • Even though both properties are co-produced and distributed by Warner Bros., fans of DCEU and Monsterverse (the American shared universe centered around Godzilla and other Kaiju) really don't get along. So far, the Monsterverse films have received more critical praise than all DCEU movies bar Wonder Woman with some commentators claiming that the Monsterverse is better at setting up a cinematic universe than the DCEU. Not helping matters is that some Monsterverse fans have spoofed the more controversial scenes in the DCEU like Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel and "Save Martha!" scene in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice using goofy Godzilla memes like these ones.
  • Ghostbusters has a rivalry which crosses multiple media: Fans of Columbia's franchise call themselves "Ghostheads," and fans of Filmation's franchise (the one with the gorilla) call themselves "Go-ers." These days, it's less of a rivalry and more of an uneasy alliance.
  • One of the nastiest: The Illusionist vs. The Prestige. Be careful who you discuss either of these movies with. The argument might lead to IQ dissing. Seriously though, it's impossible to find someone who's a fan of both, even though both movies deal with magicians and revenge plots... They just appeal to different folks. Loving one means hating the other. In fact, your love for one is pretty much defined by how much you hate the other. People pick sides based on which one they saw first, which one they saw in the cinema, Bale/Norton affection, Jackman/Rufus affection, belief that if it has Caine/Giamatti in it, it must be epic... But you have to pick a side.
  • A minor and friendlier rivalry occurred among the filmmakers and fans of the X-Men Film Series and Spider-Man Trilogy since both series kick-started the return of comic book movies for the new millennium with their second acts often being cited as some of the best superhero flicks ever made.
  • As with Sony's The Amazing Spider-Man Series, many fans of the Marvel Cinematic Universe criticize X-Men: Days of Future Past just for existing and maintaining FOX's hold on the X-Men film rights, since they wish the rights would go to Marvel Studios. All the more since Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, two characters synonymous with both the Avengers and the X-Men, were in something a legal grey area (and appeared in both franchises). And then there are the accusations of Marvel trying to undermine Fox's success by downplaying its X-Men marketing in the comics and cancelling its Fantastic Four titles, while playing up lesser-known teams and characters such as the Guardians of the Galaxy and Inhumans that will appear in its upcoming movies.note  Given that most of these franchise's box office draw comes from movie goers and not comic fans, however, one has to wonder how people got this assumption.
    • Note that this MCU rivalry is different for X-Men than for The Amazing Spider-Man (which has a Fandom Rivalry with DOFP in its own right). Due to DOFP's very positive reception, the rivalry is less "they're turning the series into a Franchise Zombie just to hold on to the rights"note  and more "which Marvel movie series/universe is better". Although the Disney-Fox merge initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with some fans worried that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said fans have argued that the X-Men work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, the X-Men movies tend to be more darker and violent than the MCU movies, which has led to concerns that there won't be another R-Rated X-men movie in the MCU. Not helping matters is that recasting rumors and the potential scrapping of several film projects has led to outrage among fans who have become attached to the X-Men characters and films.
    • Deadpool, however, seems to have avoided much of the hate, likely due to MCU fans accepting the fact that Disney would never make an R-rated Deadpool movie with the level of sex and violence that Fox allowed.
    • Logan was also able to avoid hatred from MCU fans due to its much more intense depiction of Wolverine with a deep R-rating.
      • And then there's the rivalry between Logan fans and Deadpool fans due to the two films' radically different tones.
    • With regards to the Fantastic Four, MCU fans were heavily critical of Fantastic Four (2015) simply for existing, which wasn't helped by the suspicious timing (the reboot of the FF film franchise was announced in 2009 but made no progress until 2014, which was around the same time the rights to the team would've reverted back to Marvel). Fans of the Fantastic Four, meanwhile, were sour against MCU fans in turn and accused Marvel of trying to undermine the movie's success (no official merchandise was released for promotion) and the team itself due to the cancellation of its Fantastic Four titles (although that was caused more by bad sales than anything else). It was ultimately subverted when the movie came out after a deeply and well-publicized Troubled Production to scathing reviews and was a Box Office Bomb, making many FF fans agree that a film franchise of Marvel's First Family would indeed be better handled under Marvel Studios.
  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) with Guardians of the Galaxy. They were released a week apart from each other, and they're both based on comic books with an anthropomorphic animal as one of the main characters. Didn't help that the film managed to steal the number 1 spot from them at the box office (although Guardians had a higher opening). Even more, Guardians actually took back the number 1 spot sometime afterward.
  • Star Wars fans vs. fans of the New Hollywood/"Auteur Era." This is because many New Hollywood fans see the release and overwhelming success of A New Hope as the beginning of a shift in the film industry away from arty, director-driven films and toward "big, dumb" Summer Blockbusters. In reality, there were many other reasons for the New Hollywood's decline, including the fact that its aforementioned director-led nature led to some truly gargantuan egos springing up.
  • Star Wars: The Last Jedi has one with both Wonder Woman and Black Panther. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-White Male Leads, the two superhero movies are better received among audiences than The Last Jedi and didn't experience the same amount vitriolic backlash. This in turn has led to the fanbases arguing about which film is better at representing women and minorities while also providing escapist entertainment.
  • In some cases, the Carry On film series vs Monty Python, mostly due to the fact that Monty Python is commonly associated with the BBC and Carry On is often distributed on ITV (both dueling TV stations in themselves). Unintentionally, the fact that the Monty Python series hasn't been shown on television for years in Britain, yet Carry On occasionally gets an appearance a couple times a year, adds a bit of fuel to the rivalry pot.
  • Some fans of The Breakfast Club have a beef with those of Back to the Future for Award Snub reasons: during the 1986 Academy Awards, Back To The Future was nominated for awards that Breakfast Club should have been nominated for (the most notable being Best Song).
  • Some Spider-Man Trilogy fans have a beef with The Amazing Spider-Man Series fans over which portrayal of Spider-Man was Truer to the Text and which one handled the characters well.
    • Some fans of the former tend to criticize Andrew Garfield's portrayal and others calling him a Replacement Scrappy to Tobey Maguire's portrayal.
    • Some fans of the latter tend to criticize Maguire's portrayal by feeling that he was whiny and had a lack of personality in addition to comparing his acting to a brick wall.
  • While there's significant overlap in the fandoms, there's been some sniping between admirers of Alfred Hitchcock and Brian De Palma. The Hitchcock side accuses De Palma of crossing the line from homage to outright ripoff of Hitchcock in his thrillers. The De Palma side argues that De Palma's references to Hitchcock are just part of a larger sophisticated sensibility in De Palma's work, and that De Palma's films were actually better than Hitchcock's later films.

  • Fans vs. anti-fans. Anti-fans are disgusted by fandoms, which are generally composed of whiny, emotionally stunted philistines with a tremendous sense of entitlement who are confused and frightened by every new thing in their precious objects of fandom and more interested in belonging to a group than actual art. Meanwhile, fans of all stripes detest a particular culture of smarmy, black-hearted, elitist hipster cynics who would rather choke on a barbed wire lollipop than remove the rod from their collective ass and enjoy themselves.
    • At the time that some people were getting into science fiction fandom more for the social aspects of fandom than because they were into the genre, the expression "We're just fans, we don't read the stuff" appeared. Opponents of those people responded with the slogan, "We're not fans, we just read the stuff."
  • FIAWOLnote  vs. FIJAGHnote 
  • There also seems to be a Hatedom towards Speculative Fiction (regardless of the medium) from others who like things that are non speculative fiction, like Lit Fic and other medium equivalents for example.
  • Fans vs fans who write Fan Fiction. If non-fic fans know much about fic-ers they've depicted them as sexually frustrated middle-aged women with too much time on their hands who will pair up anyone with anyone/thing (leading to comments about how "disgusting" fanfic isnote ). Fic-ers on the other hand bash the rest of the world for "closed minded hate" towards favored characters or ships, equating a dislike of fanfic with the closeted, agoraphobic nerd who won't remove action figures from the original packaging and is anti-fun. Fic-ers have also been known to get slightly miffed whenever a non-fic-er sociologist or anthropologist tries to "understand" this subculture. For the most part though, both groups casually ignore each other under the mantra that the other just doesn't "get it", and fanfiction tends to remain relatively unknown to the average muggle.
    • Add to that certain genres of fanfiction that appeal to different types of fans. It depends on the fandom, but generally, it's best to watch for writers of shipping fics vs. writers of grimdark fics vs. everyone else.
    • Fanfic writers who make extensive use of OCs in their fanfics vs. fanfic writers who see them as a necessary evil at best.
  • Spoilers vs no spoilers. Some fans enjoy finding out what's ahead for their favorite shows, while others throw a fit if they find out even a small tidbit about what's coming.
  • In homosexuality-focused genres (Yaoi, Yuri, Slash Fic), fans who think they should be about actual GLBTQ experiences and issues vs fans who just want to see cute boys/girls boinking.

    Pro Wrestling 
  • Casual fans (Marks) vs. Hardcore fans (especially those that self identify as "smarks") since the two groups look at the product in different ways.
  • Prior to McMahon nationalizing WWF, promoters were very defensive of their territory. The American Wrestling Association vs. the National Wrestling Alliance was common.
  • To make a long story short All Japan Pro Wrestling vs New Japan Pro-Wrestling after they split from the JWA, Giant Baba vs Antonio Inoki being deliberately invoked by the later. Then then both of them vs Frontier Martial-Arts Wrestling, who actively campaigned against "Japanese Mainstream" and briefly became big enough to be a national promotion in their own right. While FMW went dormant, Dragon Gate rose up to be another third wheel.
  • CMLL vs Lucha Libre Interacional/Universal Wrestling Association. Then CMLL vs AAA. Then both vs IWRG. Sometimes Liga Elite fans join one of the other two against Triple A.
  • Prior to the mid 1980s, "Puroresu" was just Engrish, a rough untranslated way of Japanese fans said "Pro Wrestling". During the mid 1980s, the Japanese diaspora began using "puroresu" in the vein Mexican and some other Spanish speaking fans used "Lucha Libre" when referring to a specific style of pro wrestling. While "lucha libre", roughly translating to "free fight", grew out of an existing pro wrestling tradition, was rather different from what came before it and pretty much took over the entire wrestling circuit, the insistence of "puroresu" was born out of desire to not be associated with the WWF and GLOW.
  • Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan, as an extension of the NWA vs WWF.
  • Zenjo vs JWP vs LLPW.
  • WWF vs. WCW vs. ECW, especially during the Monday Night Wars.
  • Also, Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart has finally settled their differences, but that doesn't stop their respective fans from engaging in flame wars regarding who was better.
  • Pro Wrestling NOAH, which split off from AJPW, vs Pro Wrestling Zero 1, which split off from NJPW. However, became less of a rivalry and more of a shared respect after the passing of company founders Mitsuharu Misawa and Shinya Hashimoto.
  • WWE vs. would be WCW successor TNA vs. would be ECW successor Ring of Honor, though despite the addition of wrestlers made famous by either WWE or WCW, TNA's ratings remain stagnant. While ROH has more direct rivalries with other promotions(see below) and will more readily attack TNA before WWE(because they used to work together), there have been a subset of WWE fans hostile to ROH from the very beginning, to the point even comments meant to be complimentary("I'd like to see ___ in WWE") or constructive ("ROH should have signed *future endeavored WWE wrestler here*") sometimes inspire backlash from ROH fans.
    • ROH fans became a little more anti WWE after 2015 when it started doing several things seemingly just to spite ROH, the main three being actively trying to sign members of the ROH roster, running shows in the same or adjacent venues to ROH and trying to funnel talent that would otherwise be in ROH to EVOLVE, largely because it all started when WWE realized signing Kevin Steen didn't let them stop ROH from selling Steen dolls. In the first case they didn't actually get that many wrestlers but did got enough to have ROH stretching for credible contenders to champion Jay Lethal, which took a lot of heat away from his hot title run, and that's if you're under the impression AJ Styles would not have simply ended it, which he was being teased to do before it became obvious he finally bit on a WWE offer in December. In the second case ROH's attendance numbers continued to climb anyway but the gains were somewhat ignored in the face of WWE managing to equal or out draw them with B Show material that often featured guys wrestling in ROH not too long ago. In the latter case, fans were pretty upset about the breakup of the Pretty Boy Killers Tag Team as Keith Lee left ROH and Shane Taylor to eventually become WWN Champion. On the other hand, some ROH fans were loyal enough to those wrestlers to follow them to WWE or EVOLVE.
  • Ring Of Honor also had one with Pro Wrestling Guerilla, which was kicked off by accident when a Worked Shoot worked too well, Dragon Gate (specifically DGUSA, when ROH head booker Gabe Sapolsky moved there after being fired) and CZW, the later of which was exploited to produce what is considered to be the greatest feud in ROH history. ROH for its part had been selling PWG merchandise since the Feinstein incident and [[Invoked|Trope promoted harmony]] between the fan bases when Marty Scurll entered The Battle For Los Angeles.
  • From within the WWE itself are Raw vs. Smackdown (the flagship sports entertainment show vs. the wrestling show, made worse when the Draft often relocates a lot Smackdown talent to Raw), brand extension fans vs. unified company fans, Cena fans vs Cena haters, Superstars (especially Divas) with indy wrestling backgrounds vs. WWE/NXT homegrowns, Jim Ross vs. Michael Cole, and combinations of the WWE's different eras (Rock and Wrestling vs.The Monday Night Wars/Attitude Era vs. Ruthless Agression Era vs. WWE Universe Era)
  • IWA Mid-South fans vs fans who wrote it off as an ECW ripoff, though it came to a head with All American Wrestling's when Jimmy Jacobs tossed the IWA Heavyweight Title belt in the trash for AAW.
  • People who agree with WWE regarding making Chris Benoit an Un-person and those who want him in the Hall of Fame and his matches on DVD.note 
  • SHIMMER vs WSU vs SHINE, the three most prominent women's wrestling promotions in the USA. Mainly WSU vs SHINE, as the former lost some ground when its owner's health started to fail and the latter rose up centered around expies of the Midwest Militia and Rain's Army, which were best known as WSU groups. And all of them hold women's wrestling fans who only watch WWE in disdain.
  • Nowadays its WWE vs. NJPW (w/ROH to a lesser extent due to their crossovers) vs. Lucha Underground and occasionally Anthem!Impact Wrestling as a four-way dance.
    • Or as All In and Chris Jericho's Cruise proves its NJPW, ROH, Impact, Lucha Underground/AAA, WOS & MLW vs. WWE

    Tabletop Games 
  • Any edition change for a popular game sets of this. Examples are D&D 2nd Ed vs 3rd Ed, Vampire: The Masquerade vs Vampire: The Requiem, D&D 3rd Ed vs D&D 4th Ed.
  • Eberron vs. the Forgotten Realms for Dungeons & Dragons fans.
    • Pretty much every setting has its rivals. Fans of Greyhawk tend to grumble at Forgotten Realms for displacing Greyhawk as the "generic" setting, fans of Spelljammer and Planescape bicker with fans of more down-to-Earth settings, and fans of Dragonlance tend to be rivals with just about everyone else (primarily because Dragonlance fans have always been fans of the novels first).
  • Dungeons & Dragons fans and The World of Darkness fans dislike each other. The former see the latter as a bunch of mopey goth LARPers, and the latter see the former as a bunch of ignorant fanboys that can't grasp complex characters.
  • Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40,000. Fantasy fans tend to look down on 40k fans because they consider 40k to be be "dumbed down", while the 40k fans consider fantasy to be duller than 40k and having some needlessly complex rules. Lots of people still play both, although they tend to play one more than other.
    • Occasionally joining forces to bash the players of third Games Workshop's game, Lord of the Rings, as playing kiddies' game.
    • Of course, this gets extra stupid when much of the fanbase plays both, many of the parts and models are interchangeable, and they're all made by the same company. But that doesn't stop anyone.
    • When it comes to different companies, it can get even worse. One of the relatively notable cases is the Warmachine games vs. the Warhammer games. Expect to see "Page 5" and "GRIMDARK" thrown around if the two groups have "discussions".
    • Just about any time a new codex comes out. Liking it means you're a Scrub who only plays Game Breakers, disliking it means you're a “Stop Having Fun” Guy who can't handle change.
    • There are some people who are fans of what Matt Ward did for the Ultramarines, Grey Knights and Necrons, others who see it as Creator's Pet, God-Mode Sue and Character Derailment respectively.
  • Whilst there are plenty of people who enjoy both, fans of Diplomacy versus fans of Risk. Risk fans say Diplomacy is boring, Diplomacy fans say Risk is "Diplomacy for idiots."
  • Magic: The Gathering and Yu-Gi-Oh! players tend to regard each other with disdain, with the latter having been the former's biggest (and longest-lasting) rival. Yu-Gi-Oh fans often call Magic out on new players being Locked Out of the Loop and the various Loophole Abuse by players, while Magic The Gathering fans tend to criticize Yu-Gi-Oh for how severely broken and unbalanced the game of Yu-Gi-Oh is in general and that Yu-Gi-Oh players often only have the option between a few very expensive leading Game-Breaker decks to fight on championship levels or to not play competitively at all, making sure that there will be no original decks in tournaments. There are fans of both games, but they are few and far between.
  • Dungeons & Dragons vs. Exalted, largely because of the infamous advertising campaign used by White Wolf. "Graduate your game from third edition!" indeed. Also because many of Exalted's veteran fans started in The World of Darkness and brought their hate to the table.
  • Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition versus Pathfinder.
    • For that matter, 3.x fans and Pathfinder fans often find themselves arguing, mostly over if Pathfinder is a straight upgrade that plugged 3.x's holes or if it's a knockoff version that broke more things than it fixed.
    • Even within the D&D fandom, there's fans of martial classes (Fighter, Barbarian, Paladin) vs. fans of magic classes (Wizard, Bard, Druid). Mike Mearls (pro-martial) and Monte Cook (pro-spellcaster) encouraged this until Cook left the design team.
    • Even between caster classes: Wizardsnote  vs. Sorcerersnote . Fans of Sorcerers prefer the themes of inherent magic power and the CHA spellcasting that lets Sorcerers double as The Face; fans of Wizards prefer the concept of an ordinary muggle gaining power through hard work and the sheer spellcasting versatility from a wider selection of spells. 5th Edition makes things worse by tearing Metamagic out of the Wizards' hands and making it a Sorcerer exclusive, and also introduces Warlocks: casters who gain power through a Deal with the Devil and use a more limited but simpler magic system with focus on cantrips and other abilities.
    • And also rolling dice for stats vs. point buy. Point buy fans argue for better balance between players (either one player rolls well and everyone else is Overshadowed by Awesome or one player rolls worse and Can't Catch Up) and more creative freedom. Fans of rolling cite the "ritual" novelty of rolling for stats and suggest that point buy lends itself to a degree of Munchkinism and players creating "builds" rather than organic-feeling characters.
  • In Germany, Dungeons & Dragons (being the most popular RPG worldwide) vs. The Dark Eye (being Germany's most popular RPG). Though there is some overlap to be expected (plenty of D&D players started with TDE), the fundamental gamestyle and setting differences lead to a lot of discussions which system is actually better. Whether it's the one of the other is mostly down to one's preferences.
  • Older Than They Think: Chess vs. Checkers. Both are immensely old and popular board games, but both have always been compared to one another in terms of quality. It has been documented ever since the 19th century. For a long time Checkers was considered the winner due to being considered to be harder and more modern than Chess was when it comes to warfare, with various Chess players then back again saying that players of Checkers were biased and that Chess can be quite hard to play as well.

  • Another legendary fandom rivalry: Mac vs. Windows. Embodied and parodied in Apple's "I'm a Mac and I'm a PC" commercials. This also leads to a false conception of computer history of being mainly composed of Apple and Microsoft (much to the consternation of Commodore, Atari and Acorn fans), and idolizing their CEOs.
    • Those commercials are entirely biased towards Macs, as expected. How much Apple plays up the Mac's good qualities and exaggerates a PC's bad qualities is open to debate, though there are one or two more heavy-handed commercials in favor of the Mac.
      • Even though those commercials do have rather a Misaimed Fandom that sees the PC (played by John Hodgman in the US and David Mitchell in the UK) as a goofy, loveable underdog, while the Mac user is a posing hipster.
      • Even the ads themselves have recognised this and moved into Friendly Rivalry status.
    • Worth noting is that PC fans tend to see the additional complexity as an advantage, as the all-in-one, tightly integrated designs Apple has pushed for the last decade don't lend themselves well to upgrading or replacing faulty components.
      Many professional workstation users have derided the 2013 Mac Pro as an "overpriced trash can" that can't even support aftermarket graphics cards internally compared to the classic "cheese grater" Mac Pro/Power Mac G5 case design, and due to its age and unyielding price tag, have jumped ship to PC workstations. Apple even had to apologize to their creative professional userbase for the lack of Mac Pro updates and released the iMac Pro as a stopgap measure, though the all-in-one design with a $5,000 base price tag and no NVIDIA graphics options still isn't winning over the pro market.
      Then you have the "Glorious PC Gaming Master Race" types who hate Macs for similar reasons, being overpriced, underpowered machines that a custom PC build would gleefully turn into a Curb-Stomp Battle in performance terms, not to mention that macOS gets a mere fraction of the game releases that Windows does despite Valve's highly promoted port of Steam and several of their own games to the Mac. It's also worth noting that Oculus dropped Mac support for the Oculus Rift between the DK2 and first-generation consumer model because all of Apple's systems had GPUs that were too weak, and until Thunderbolt 3.0, no viable means to upgrade.
    • Earlier than that was the Amiga vs. Atari ST users.
    • And earlier than that was Apple ][ vs. TRS-80 vs. VIC-20/Commodore 64 vs. Atari 8-Bit Computers. In the UK the concurrent main rivalry was the ZX Spectrum vs. the Commodore 64
    • And earlier than that was 8080/Z-80 vs. 6800 vs. 6502 vs. 1802 in homebuilt computers.
    • It's not just bad enough that the Linux fanbase is in rival with the Mac and Windows ones, but is actually divided on several grounds itself. Debian vs Red Hat vs Slackware (and by extension, DEB package management vs. RPM package Management vs. TGZ package management), KDE (which within consists of KDE4 vs KDE3/Trinity) vs. GNOME (which within consisted of Gnome2/Mate/Cinnamon/XFCE vs Gnome 3) versus every other desktop environment out there (and even mouse-based GUI vs. keyboard-driven GUI like Ratpoison vs. pure CLI), vi vs emacs vs nano, Copyleft licenses such as GPL vs permissive licensesnote , initscripts (BSD vs SystemV vs SystemD), etc...
    • And the weird part? The guy who plays Mac in the commercials uses windows during his appearance as Matt Farrell in Live Free or Die Hard.
    • Adding to this are the "Browser Wars" with the heavyweight fight being between Microsoft's Internet Explorer (though recently, Edge seems to be in position to take its' place) Mozilla's Firefox and Google Chrome; Opera and Safari have smaller fandoms who are against everyone at once.
      • Even within Mozilla, there's a large split between those who want individual programs doing specific things (ie. Firefox+Thunderbird+KompoZer) vs. those who want everything in a suite like the original Mozilla client (read: Seamonkey). Heck, even Firefox has a split fanbase and has spawned several forks!
  • It isn't just software. There's Intel vs. AMD for x86 CPUs and AMD vs. Nvidia for GPUs with the big ones, and more than likely much smaller feuds between vendors. And then there's Hard drive rivalry, which is still pretty a big one, even with the only three groups remaining (Western Digitalnote . vs Seagatenote , and Toshiba Data Devicesnote ), with Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics employed throughout. And the fans of each are still rabidly vocal. God help you if you're one of those who believed that the three brands are equally good- the fandom won't have it the other way and will barbecue you alive if you don't pick sides. The rivalry with power supplies, memory, and motherboards to an extent have died off. It's usually "just pick something from these companies".
  • Don't forget the IBM PowerPC vs Intel Pentium feud! Though this one pattered out a bit out once Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel chips in 2005, but not before causing several small wars in the process and causing a split in the Mac fandom itself. Even today, there are still Mac enthusiasts arguing over whether Apple should have stuck with POWER-based Macs or if the move to Intel was a good choice.
  • The Amiga community parallels this schism with whether the basis on PowerPC for "next-generation" Amiga platforms, specifically AmigaOS 4, was a good move, as the hardware required is rare, increasingly expensive, and older PowerPC Macs are generally not compatible, eliminating a much more affordable source of hardware for the new OS.
    There's also the greater debate between AmigaOS 4, MorphOS and AROS being valid successors to the Classic Amiga platform or not; MorphOS actually does run on many G3 through G5 Power Macs, and AROS even runs on IBM-compatible x86 PCs, making them far more accessible. However, some would say that the lack of the Amiga's signature custom chipset makes any of these successor platforms not a true Amiga, never mind that the planned Amiga "Hombre" project was a clean break with an A1200 on a chip solely for backwards compatibility.
    Finally, there's the new Apollo Vampire FPGA accelerator line to further divide the already fragmented Amiga fanbase, which instead opts for binary compatibility with classic Amiga software with an in-house-designed 68080 core that leaves the old 68060 accelerators in the dust, ReTargetable Graphics with HDMI output, and attempts to recreate an enhanced version of the AGA chipset within the FPGA, bringing AGA compatibility to OCS/ECS systems and advantages such as Chip RAM amounts greater than 2 MB. Some prefer this approach to advancing the Amiga, as it still relies on the classic Amiga hardware (though standalone Vampire V4 boards are in the works), while others say it's missing the point of using a vintage computer in the first place.
  • And now, there is a increasing fandom fight between ARM and x86 CPU architectures! Yeah, that's now because initially Intel (x86 architecture) and now AMD are targeting the same market ARM (nVIDIA, Samsung, Qualcomm, etc) is going for: tablets and smartphones. And despite both architectures performing similarly, some ARM fans says that ARM is a better solution since it costs less than x86 and is far more easily licensed out than x86, which only Intel and AMD can legally utilize, and which Intel considers a competitive advantage for being the basis of the Wintel platform and the decades of software compatibility that brings.
    Some proponents of ARM are also playing the "ARM is RISC but x86 is CISC, and RISC is faster!" card, the same card played during the PowerPC Mac vs x86 PC era.
    On the other side, x86 fans say that they have the help of Microsoft Windows, and with that, x86 has more uses than ARM, on top of the CISC vs. RISC distinction being totally irrelevant since the Pentium Pro, which uses an internally RISC architecture with an x86 instruction decoder for backwards compatibility. Then there's the matter of how the classic "Can it run Crysis?" question can only be answered with an x86 PC...
  • iOS vs. Android. The rivalry can make it hard to publicly admit having problems with your mobile device without being met with comments like "just switch to <other platform>!" In short, it's become the 2010s equivalent of the PC OS wars. Apple's keynotes in particular have turned into major chances for Android fans to rail on iPhones and their users for buying overpriced products with features that Android took up years ago.
    • Apple vs. Samsung (and to a lesser extent, Sony and other ACME Products companies).
    • It's taken Up to Eleven with the recent patent battle.
    • And that's not all, whenever a chance arrives, both sides often take swipes with each other as much as possible.
      • Even within Android users, it's usually Google Nexus/Pixel vs. Samsung and everyone else.
        Google fans point out that they get updates well before everyone else, they have no bloatware and their phones don't lag, especially compared to Samsung. In general, it's like having an iPhone without Apple's restrictiveness. Their bootloaders are even unlockable, so long as you avoid buying from Verizon.
        Samsung fans point out that Google takes years to implement features Samsung has had years earlier, and often done worse (multi-windowing being one of the bigger examples), a lot of the alleged "bloatware" can be easily disabled and/or uninstalled, that Google's own apps can also be bloatware (some folks in the custom ROM community even opt for microG instead of Google Play Services for this reason), they still haven't removed the headphone jack, microSD slot, or added an ugly iPhone X-style screen notch, and in general, they want the Swiss Army knife of smartphones, not the iPhone of Android. This goes double for flagship Galaxy Note owners, as opposed to the more mainstream Galaxy S line.
    • And then there are the people who use Windows Phone/Windows 10....
    • Fans of Blackberry Classic vs. both Android and iOS.
      • Even within the Blackberry fandom there's a split between Blackberry Classic and Blackberry 10. However, while the Blackberry 10 fandom shares the same iOS users rivalry with Classic, they have a friendly fandom going on with Android users as Blackberry 10 devices are semi-Android friendly and can run Android apps. In other words, Fans of Blackberry 10 hate Classic for being a primitive OS lacking in functionality and it's fans for their stone-age ways of doing things and their borderline paranoid behavior, while fans of Classic consider fans of Blackberry 10 to be posers who would rather give up security for functionality, and the OS itself as yet another Android clone and is Blackberry In Name Only. This has gone completely off-rails when Blackberry announced that they're leaving the hardware market and would license out their OS to other phone manufacturers.
  • Application and game programmers have sometimes arguments of what engine/code language is better. Some examples:
    • Flash vs. Game Maker. Flash and Game Maker have in common that they are both slow but easy to learn and to use. Flash exports .swf files, GM exports Javascript code that get's embedded in a <canvas> tag. It is quite easy to embed the output in webbrowsers, connect them with SQL databased and so on. But both party's do not want to see the potential of the other - Game Maker is known as being a 'engine only suitable for games like Mario'. Flash is to GM users known as 'a bugged code language that only works if you're lucky'.
    • Flash vs. HTML5.
      • Java Applets vs. Flash back in the late 90s and early 2000s. Although the acquision of Sun by Oracle and the constant exposure of exploits in the supposedly secure runtime in recent years has made Java Applets mostly relegated to corporate intranets and specific websites. Although back in the days, Java was also often criticized for being memory and CPU intensive.
    • Direct X vs. Open GL.
    • UDK (a free version of the Unreal Engine marketed towards Indie developers) vs. Unity (another free/low-cost engine that is also marketed towards Indie developers)
    • Irrlicht vs. Ogre3D
    • Kinect vs. Move vs. Wiimote.
    • Code::Blocks vs. Dev-Cpp.
    • C# vs. C++ (barely a rivalry, but it does sometimes happen)
      • Java/C# vs. every other language ever.
      • Java vs. C# is also quite common, too
    • Visual Basic .NET vs. people who think it is outdated.
      • Visual Basic .NET vs. classic BASIC (all caps, since it's a acronym).
    • GOTO and GOSUB-RETURN vs Structured Programming. While this rivalry is rare nowadays as the latter is now universally accepted and the former is only still relevant in Assembly Language, through the 60s and 70s this was a war fought between two very vocal programmer groupsnote 
    • SQL vs. Access
      • SQL server vs Oracle vs other paid Database server software.
      • MySQL vs PostgresQL is another common one among open source fans.
    • .NET programmers (and the Microsoft stack in general) vs various open source communities
      • Building on this, Visual Studio (Microsoft's development IDE) vs. Eclipse vs. every other IDE is quite common
    • Perl vs. Python vs. TCL vs the new kid on the block, Ruby.
  • vBulletin vs Invision Power Board vs Xen Foro. Fans of one tend not to be fans of the others and there's quite the argument over which is better forum software. Same goes for phpBB vs My BB vs SMF in the free forum world and free forum software vs paid forum software in general.
  • With regards to instant messaging:
    • The 1990s and 2000s brought us AIM vs. MSN vs. ICQ vs. Yahoo Messenger.
    • In The New '10s, this changed into AIM vs. Skype vs. Yahoo Messenger vs. Facebook Messenger when AOL bought out Mirabillis and merged ICQ into AIM, and Microsoft bought out Skype from eBay, and then subsequently retired MSN and forcefully migrated all it's users to Skype, and then Facebook decide to enter the market. There's also Google Chat, but almost no one uses that...
    • The 2010s, with the advent of IM services tailored for mobile devices, has Kik vs. WhatsApp vs. LINE vs. KakaoTalk vs. WeChat. The former two tend to be bigger in Western countries, while the latter three are more popular in Eastern and Southeastern Asia, although WhatsApp does also have a sizable userbase in Southeastern Asia.
  • Keyboards: QWERTY vs Dvorak. The most common point of contention is whether switching from the more popular QWERTY to Dvorak is worth the effort to achieve the claimed increase in typing speed.

  • The classic rivalry is Julie Andrews vs. Audrey Hepburn for who is the best Eliza Doolittle.
  • Among musical theatre fans, people who enjoy Andrew Lloyd Webber and people who like Stephen Sondheim don't tend to like each other.
    • This rivalry likely crystallized in the 1980s - Sondheim's shows won critical raves, numerous Tony Awards and even the Pulitzer Prize. Webber's shows made lots of money and developed enormous fanbases, as well as won a few Tonys of their own. Sondheim's seen as smart and meaningful by lovers, cold and difficult by haters ("the songs are absolutely unhummable!"); Webber's seen as emotionally thrilling by lovers, shallow and dumb by haters ("you walk out whistling the sets and costumes.") The 1988 Tony Awards may perfectly encapsulate this rivalry: Into the Woods won the Book and Score awards, but The Phantom of the Opera won the Best Musical prize.
    • Weirdly, though, the fandoms for the film versions of each of Sondheim and Webber's magnum opuses (Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street and The Phantom of the Opera, respectively, which were filmed within three years of each other and both produced by Warner Brothers) overlap pretty strongly, much to the chagrin of the stage fandoms for either musical, who tend to view both films as inferior compared to their sources.
    • Oh, but it gets worse. The stage-purist Todd fans are pretty divided over the original full-scale production and its symphonic spinoffs and the tiny, spare, 10-actors-playing-their-own-score production mounted on Broadway in 2005. Defenders of the original production call it a full-on Guignol-style thriller with sweeping music rendered beautifully by a full orchestra that gives richness and complexity to the score, while calling the mini-version a tasteless, pointless exercise in distracting Brechtianism that robbed the music of its depth. Fans of the 2005 production will say that their favorite version is a sexy, vicious little dark jewel of a show while the original was a cartoon full of exaggerated acting and (similarly to criticism of Webber's work, ironically enough) reliance on spectacle.
  • If you leave Sondheim out of the picture, there's still Andrew Lloyd Webber vs. Frank Wildhorn, whom even people who don't particularly like Webber's works have characterized as an untalented pretender to Webber's throne. Wildhorn's own fanbase adores him and will defend him to the death against basically every other composer out there.
  • Similarly, Stephen Sondheim vs. Jerry Herman fans. Jerry Herman fans tend to site Sondheim as "unhummable", "depressing", or "pretentious", while Sondheim fans tend to say Jerry Herman's stuff is "saccharine", "too cute", and "frivolous". Again, this is encapsulated in the results of an awards showdown: In 1984, Sondheim's Sunday in the Park with George was successful enough that it won the Pulitzer Prize for Drama the following year...but in the meantime got curbstomped at the Tony Awards by Herman's La Cage aux folles.
  • Classic musical theater fans (Oklahoma!, West Side Story, My Fair Lady, that sort of thing) vs rock/pop musical fans. Some classic fans will admit to liking Hair, Godspell, and maybe — at a stretch — Rent but that's about as far as they'll go.
  • Jesus Christ Superstar: Fans of the original 1973 movie vs. fans of the 2003 movie. Hippie Jesus vs Possibly Gay Ghetto Jesus? Decisions, decisions...
    • Also, Murray Head as Judas (the original concept album) vs. Carl Anderson as Judas (the 1973 movie). And no, you may not answer Jerome Pradon.
  • Les Misérables vs The Phantom of the Opera is a strange case. There are many people who are hardcore fans of both, but sooner or later, you must choose which side your loyalties are on.
    • Speaking of Phantom, its fandom does not like High School Musical very much, possibly due to the latter taking a snipe at Michael Crawford, the original Erik in the stage production and regarded as basically a saint in Phantom fandom.
  • Tanz Der Vampire versus its short-lived American counterpart Dance of the Vampires. Notable in that even the composer himself has called Dance "utter shit" on his blog. Still, there are fans out there who like the American version for taking itself less seriously. A happy minority tends to simply sit back and explain that they think both versions have their high points.
  • An example from a much earlier period in theatre history: Al Jolson vs. Eddie Cantor.
  • Edwin Forrest and William Charles Macready, two rival Shakespearean actors from the 1840s. Read about them at this article.
  • Richard Wagner v. Giacomo Meyerbeer (Or Richard Wagner v. Johannes Brahms). Wagner's supporters will claim that Wagner's works were the conclusion of opera, magnificiently orchestrated, pushed singing to its limits and gloriously intricate in terms of plot. Wagners detracors will point to Wagner's unsavory personality, inability to spell, much less use, subtlety, tendency to fill everything with over-the-top Teutonic bombast, and inability to wrap up the simplest of plots in less than three hours. This particular fan feud has been running since Wagner was in his early thirties, has included numerous famous figures on either side (including Friedrich Nietzsche on both, having shifted from pro-Wagner to anti-Wagner over time) and has shown absolutely no sign of losing momentum.
  • 1776 versus Hamilton, mostly because the protagonists (John Adams and Alexander Hamilton) absolutely detested each other in Real Life. In spite of the fact that Hamilton's author, Lin-Manuel Miranda, is a big fan of 1776 and cites it as an inspiration for his own show, Hamilfans have been known to disreccomend it just because it stars one of the many guys who hated their guy. (Never mind the fact that neither Hamilton nor 1776 shy away from the fact that both men were hugely flawed and generally gave people reason to hate them.)
  • Recently, there's been one between Theatre/Heathers and Mean Girls, with the former accusing the latter of being a ripoff.

  • My Little Pony:
    • For years there's been a My Little Pony vs Transformers vs Care Bears rivalry.
    • On the topic of My Little Pony, one of the earliest battle-lines drawn was Bronies vs. old-time Collectors who collect G1/Tales/G3 toys for the sake of their love for little plastic horses. Many Bronies have nothing but contempt for pre-G4 figures, while said collectors diss G2/G3.5/G4 figures for not looking like horses. Needless to say it's quite rare to find people in these two camps that even talk to each other, much less actually get along.
    • Then there's bronies who only collect show-accurate (non-Hasbro made) G4 ponies vs. the other G4 pony collectors. The former complain about how Hasbro's products do not look like in the show and buy ponies from show-accurate toy licensees like Funko and Build-a-Bear, but never from Hasbro themselves. The latter thinks that the former is completely missing the point of collecting MLP, believing that since the franchise belongs to Hasbro, one should only be buying Hasbro ponies.
    • Again, Bronies vs. Filly. Especially heated since many Filly fans are MLP dissidents who abandoned MLP due to the G3.5 ponies' designs.
  • Barbie versus Bratz, Monster High versus Bratzillaz, and by extension, Mattel versus MGA in general.
  • BIONICLE vs Hero Factory, even though one was the replacement of the other. Bionicle fans hate Hero Factory for replacing Bionicle, and being more simple and childish, while Hero Factory fans think Bionicle is overly complex and doesn't allow room for new fans

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  • Archive of Our Own vs Fanfiction Dot Net. The former site was created specifically with the idea of hosting fanfics that the latter would have forbidden, which ranges from parodies to very explicit sex and gore. The fans of the former site criticizes the latter one for its stuck up policies, while the fans of the latter site disregard the former one as a den of perverts.
    • By extension, Tumblr fans, who shares many traits with AO 3 has also started a rivalry with Fanfction Dot Net.
  • 4chan and Reddit. In all fairness, the rivalry is a bit one-sided, Reddit seems to have some respect for 4chan, despite what comes out of there on a regular basis, whereas 4chan dismisses Reddit as a hipster and ultra-liberal circlejerk that ruined memes such as rage comics.
    • This is due to the view of Reddit's detractors that Reddit's content is primarily gags and memes stolen from 4chan and driven into the ground (not to mention missing the point of said memes, robbing them of context necessary to the joke in the first place).
      • It's gotten to the point where 4chan, or at least certain boards, have essentially renounced memes, and are vehemently opposed to them as a concept, just because Reddit likes them. The creation of new humorous content is discouraged, just so that Reddit doesn't get anything new to steal.
    • It has since evolved into 4chan vs. Reddit vs. 9gag. Where Reddit takes memes from 4chan and runs them into the ground, 9gag takes those and then slaps their watermark on it. Combine this with 9gag being connected to social media sites like Facebook has lead to the mainstream media to believe that 9gag created these memes. It has lead to both 4chan and reddit working together to attack 9gag as well as 4chan conducting solo raids on the site. Just mentioning 9gag on any board will result in the thread being saged into oblivion.
    • It isn't Reddit vs. 4chan vs. 9gag anymore. It's Everyone vs. 9gag now. 4chan and Reddit (when they aren't taking pot shots at each other) are not above putting aside their differences to enact a joint raid on 9gag. Case in point, the 4chan—Reddit—FunnyJunk—Tumblr coalition enacting Operation Deepthroat.
  • There's a significant amount of vitriol between Something Awful and 4chan, despite or perhaps because of the latter being a spinoff of the former, despite the fact that there are many users on both sites.
  • 4chan and Tumblr. Tensions were cooled somewhat when the anthropomorphisms of the latter and Anonymous were shipped together. It's still one-sided to this day, however, with Tumblr holding respect for 4chan and 4chan dismissing Tumblr as an ultra-feminist hipster circlejerk filled with social justice warriors and very vocal fandoms that ruin everything.
  • Reddit and Tumblr go at it frequently. Reddit users prefer their sites text focused interface whilst Tumblr users prefer their image sharing one. The two user bases clash over who's site layout is better, though there's usually disagreement amongst the users as to whether or not their own site's interface is even good. Most infamous are the clashing political ideas with Reddit viewing Tumblr as oversensitive and PC-orientated, and Tumblr viewing Reddit as having too many creeps and misogynists. The two sites propensity for echo chambers only adds fuel to the fire.
  • Reddit and Voat, especially after several controversial subreddits were deleted due the hate speech content, resulting in some Reddit users going to Voat for more freedom. Reddit users say Voat is a "Reddit clone for racists" while Voat users say Reddit is ruled by pro-censorship people and has no freedom of speech.
  • RedLetterMedia and That Guy with the Glasses. As for the creators themselves, Mike and Jay really don't care about the whole thing.
    • Their fans, especially fans of Mr. Plinkett, have a rivalry with fans of the Star Wars prequels. This is because Mr. Plinkett gave the prequels very in-depth negative reviews which attracted Star Wars prequel anti-fans to his videos. In fact, his reviews of the prequels are his most well-known due to being shown on Roger Ebert's website (who gave Revenge of the Sith a positive review) and tweeted by Simon Pegg.
  • Both The Angry Video Game Nerd and The Nostalgia Critic got very tired of the Fandom Rivalry that sprouted among people too stupid not to realize that their satirical feud wasn't Serious Business, and soon new videos on the subject started to become more and more blatant about how they enjoyed each other's work and co-produced the competition just for laughs, in advance of angry commentors.
    • On the other hand, most serious fans of the Nerd really do hate The Irate Gamer, who is seen as being an inferior rip-off and not confessing to such. Not to mention his Small Name, Big Ego.
      • It spills over into real life as well. Several of Rolfe's friends tore into Irate Gamer pretty bad in the AVGN comedy roast, so much so they spent almost as much time calling him a ripoff as they did staying on topic.
  • Parodied by the Critic and The Nostalgia Chick in her review of The Chipmunk Adventure, as they smugly argue over who has the creepiest, privacy-invading fans. It ends in a tie.
  • In Germany, it's Coldmirror fans vs. Die Außenseiter fans, both comedians on YouTube.
  • In Italy, there's the whole Yotobi debate. YouTube users SereINC and 2blugori have provided well-done Fan Subs for the aforementioned Nostalgia Critic; however, many videos get often thrashed by Yotobi fans, as if the Nostalgia Critic stole Yotobi's source material. Italian NC fans usually snark at them by shrugging every insult off, while calling them nothing more than "Yotobi fanboys". Hell, some of them even say "Yotobi fanboy alert" whenever one of them pops up. Never mind the two Video Review Shows are next-to-nothing alike.
  • Played for Laughs by the Song of the Sorcelator and Epic Legends Of The Hierarchs "fandoms," who roleplay some really hysterical flame wars.
  • Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series versus, well, every other Abridged Series. Since Yu-Gi-Oh! was the original abridged series every following one got accused of being a copy cat. The ironic thing being that LittleKuriboh frequently lent his voice to other series, and even became a full time collaborator with Team Four Star.
  • Ben T. Looney vs Rowdy C.
    • Ben Rants/Benthelooney fans hate The Rowdy Reviewer because of the way his voice sounds on camera, and the fact that he mostly reviews things he grew up with and the way he voices his opinions, and The Rowdy Reviewer fans hate Ben Rants because of the way Ben voices his opinions, his retcons (Making his avatar into a cartoon character, contradicting previous opinions: Ala in the original and first run, he stated he was a 90s kid but in the revival, states he's a 2000s kid) and having at least more than one joke in every video since the revival.
  • Ultra Fast Pony:
    • Referenced in-universe. Discord breaks the mind of The Lord of the Rings fangirl Pinkie Pie by shouting "Harry Potter was better!"
    • In real life, a vocal portion of UFP's fans hate Friendship is Witchcraft and feel the need to post youtube comments to that effect on the UFP videos. Not a large portion, mind you, just an annoyingly loud one. UFP actually has a few Take Thats towards FIW, but UFP creator Wacarb clarified (probably to discourage the haters among his fans) that he actually likes FIW and only pokes fun at them out of professional rivalry. Either way, the Friendship Is Witchcraft fandom doesn't seem to have noticed.
  • Whilst it's true that the other side doesn't argue that much about it, there is still a persistent rivalry between youtube ranters and let's players. Youtube ranters and their fans often complain say that let's players are unnecessary and a waste of time (because why would they watch someone playing a video game if they can play the same game at home). Fans of let's players however still watch them despite it because they can learn more about the game and let's players can give some fun commentary. Over time, many fans of Let's Players blame youtube ranters for being hypocritical, since they say that playing a game while talking about something is bad while they are talking in front of their own camera.
    • It's not a surprise that most of the hatred is directed towards PewDiePie. He's the most famous guy to hate on because they can still be sure that their channel gets a lot of views because of it. The typical accusation directed towards him is however a broken argument he once said, which goes like this: "If you don't like it, don't watch it" and which his fandom keeps shouting at the haters, despite the fact that most of them don't even know what they are saying.
  • The entire Internet vs. furries.
    • The furry thing can be split even more: those who prefer clean, non-sexual furries and the hentai yiff crowd.
      • People who like humanoid characters vs feral ones.
      • People that consider the fandom to be a hobby and/or fetish and nothing more, versus people that consider the fandom to be a lifestyle. The former often calls the latter 'delusional', while vice versa the latter calls the former 'un-invested'.
  • Bronies vs. the internet. Or Furries and Bronies. See the page on the Furry Fandom for some elaboration on the Bronies vs. furries.
  • TV Tropes vs. Wikipedia, although there's clearly an overlap in users.
  • Social network websites do this quite a bit: Facebook vs. Twitter, Blogger vs. Tumblr, and more recently, Facebook vs. Google+.
  • Uncyclopedia vs. Encyclopedia Dramatica.
  • From the Yogscast:
    • The Yogscast used to get on well with GameChap, collaborating frequently and then accepting the latter as members. The fandoms went from friendly to this trope after the latter rudely responded to some fan criticism on the Yogscast subreddit, which was the last straw and got them kicked out the group. Nowadays, mention either of them on the other's sites or forums and you'll be met with scorn, or in the case of the latter, you'll be banned, rudely insulted and met with scorn. This is particularly the case with Hat Films, who have turned Gamechap into something of a running gag online.
    • Fans of TotalBiscuit and Yognau(gh)ts mostly get along (as do the creators for the most part), but the former has criticised the latter a few times, leading to more minor versions of this trope. These are mostly minor hiccups as far as fans are concerned.
      • And in turn, TotalBiscuit fans and Extra Credits fans don't get along very well due to their being on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
    • While fans of Nerd³ and In The Little Wood mostly like each other due to their collab series, Yognaughts and Procrastinators have a somewhat uneasy coexistence. As with TB, there is still a large degree of overlap, so it's not an outright rivalry.
    • Due to the somewhat heated disputes between In The Little Wood and "Keemstar" (of "Drama Alert" infamy) over issues such as Sam Pepper and Bashurverse, as well as Keemstar hitting on Martyn's girlfriend Kaeyi, fans of the two do not get along.
  • Fans of GameChap, aside from the aforementioned issue with the Yogscast, are now on bad terms with the Minecraft community at large, whereas before they were still fairly popular. This is partly due to Gamechap's starting a Twitter war with Marc Watson of Mojang over 500,000 accounts initially being hacked (when in reality that was not the case), silencing those speaking in favour of the Pixelmon mod (which had come under fire for controversial coding) and then not crediting an animator for his work on the bunny hopping animation.
  • Due to the sexual abuse scandal on Youtube, many formerly Friendly Fandoms are now bitter rivals, such as the fandoms of Charlieissocoollike and Alex Day (or at least any fans Alex has left at this point).
  • In Russia, +100500 fans vs. This Is Horosho fans. Both of them are viral video reviews similar to Ray William Johnson's Equals Three; however, their approach is different. Ti H fans see Maxim Golopolosov, +100500 host, as a Sir Swears-a-Lot punk who only repeats the phrases from reviewed videos; +100500 fans, on the other hand, see their rival as their ripoff (given that Ti H started month after +100500) and its host, Stas Davydov, as someone cracking unfunny "elitist" jokes. Then there's the fact both shows took jabs at each other a couple of times.
  • Death Battle vs. ClassicGameGuys's Fatal Fiction. Death Battle is also fairly notorious for causing these due to the nature of the show and the nature of the internet, as several viewers are prone to taking their favorite character's defeat and subsequent death very poorly indeed. Such as Goku losing to Superman being one of the most unabashed examples of this in the whole series.
    • Sometimes Death Battle plays on existing ones. Best example being Tracer vs. Scout.
    • Thrown in the mix is another VS series called Cartoon Fight Club made by Animation Rewind, notable for being newer and having lower budget animations. Doesn't help that the creator's annotations and description for every video has "Not Screwattack or Death Battle teehee/Huehuehue".

  • Although mainly because of political reasons (and not on the internet, but rather an actual rivalry, with fighting), traditional Oi! skinheads and antifascist punks vs neo-nazi boneheads (who call themselves skinheads)
  • Theists vs. atheists. Someone was going to say it.
    • And (to a certain extent) agnostics.
    • This also applies to the countless interreligion and intra-religion feuds.
  • W.E.B. DuBois followers vs Booker T. Washington supporters. Both were early civil rights leaders, but could hardly be more different in their ideas. Washington urged black Americans to learn a trade and become part of the working class, where their buying power would naturally bring them into acceptance within white society. DuBois urged black Americans to study literature and the arts, embrace their cultural roots, and demand equal rights through fierce political action. Washington and his followers argued that DuBois's strategy was too unrealistic and abstract, while DuBois and his followers accused Washington of perpetuating the blacks' low social status.
  • Among wineries, there's Napa Valley vs. France.
    • Also Napa and the neighboring Sonoma Valley.
  • Low-calorie fans vs. low-carb fans. (And by extension, saturated fats vs. unsaturated fats, vegetarians vs. omnivores, etc.)
  • Coke fans vs. Pepsi fans.
    • Who are united, however, against foolish people who insist the drinks taste the same.
    • And then there's Dr. Pepper.
      • The real rivalry there is Dr Pepper vs Mr Pibb.
      • Along with all the other generic drinks.
  • McDonald's fans vs. Burger King fans.
    • Also Wendy's.
    • Said restaurant rivalry does not apply in the Philippines, where McDonald's has to contend with a certain red fat jolly bee.
  • White Castle vs Krystal.
    • To the extent that there is/used to be a billboard just across the Tennessee/Kentucky state line on I-65 North advertising "Last chance for Krystal" ahead.
  • Kentucky Fried Chicken vs. Popeyes vs. (if applicable) Churches vs. Brownsnote , vs. Harolds.
    • In Australia, KFC vs Red Rooster vs Nando's.
  • Five Guys vs. In 'N' Out.
  • Domino's vs. Pizza Hut.
    • And in certain areas, both of them vs. Papa Johns. Little Caesars joins in as well.
  • Cats vs Dogs.
  • "Normal" pets like dogs and fish vs more obscure ones like rats, ferrets, or iguanas.
  • LEGO fans vs. Mega-Bloks and to an extent, Kre-O and, to a lesser extent, LEGO fans vs. all other building block toys. Not sure how strong this is on the non-Lego side, but on at least one Lego fansite, the names of other brands like Mega-Bloks and Tyco are used as replacement swearwords.
  • Subs vs. Dubs. It had to be mentioned.
    • Alternatively, in the world of Spanish dubs, LatAm vs Spain.
  • Tea and coffee.
  • Coffee and energy drinks. Coffee is seen as not packing enough punch and for tasting nasty and requiring lots of sugar and other condiments to be palatable to many. Energy drinks are seen by coffee fans as being too sugary on top of having worse potential side effects than coffee.
  • X political party and Y political party, anywhere. It's particularly pronounced in the U.S. with the two-party system.
    • America actually has more than two parties but you probably wouldn't know that since only the Democrats and Republicans get any attention. This leads to the always-painful liberal vs. conservatives.
    • And within the Republican party, moderates vs. Tea Partiers. It's gotten to the point that unity events are being canceled. And of course the Tea Partiers are just going to fire up the Democrats.
    • And within the Democrats, it's moderates vs. progressives. The 2016 primary between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders was a showdown between the two. The two groups continue to snipe at each other, with each side blaming the other for Clinton's loss in the general election.
    • In America, the rivalry may exist more due to problems of in-group/out-group identification than actual differences, making this a sad case of manufactured rivalry.note 
  • Railfans tend to strongly dislike bus fans and bus transportation in general due to the mostly correct perception that buses killed the majority of streetcar, commuter and long distance rail passenger services across North America. Most railfans will choose to walk long distances to avoid having to ride a bus.
    • Similar to the bus issue, some railfans (or people who just prefer traveling by train) will hate airlines because they think flying is a bigger hassle than rail travel or because in the second half of the 20th century the rising popularity of airlines resulted in a major downfall for passenger rail service.
    • Union Pacific vs. Burlington Northern Santa Fe and CSX vs. Norfolk Southern, especially their predecessors and purchased railroads. Also other smaller/defunct railroads vs. the aforementioned railroads.
    • New York Central vs. The Pennsylvania Railroad is still a big one despite both railroads being out of business since 1968.
    • EMD vs. General Electric Transportation vs. defunct locomotive manufacturers (Baldwin for example).
  • Knitting and crochet. Seriously.
    • And in each of those, but especially in knitting, natural-fiber versus novelty-yarn.
  • Firearms:
    • In the US, debates rage between fans of the AK-47 (and to a lesser extent, other AK derivatives) and the M-16 (or the civilian version, the AR-15). This is also partly due to the huge political and cultural aspect, as the AK has been often the gun of America's enemies, like the Russians and other communist countries, while the M-16 has been the gun of America. That AKs were used against M-16s in the Vietnam War also is a big point, often brought up in debates/flame wars.
    • For handguns, the pre-eminent rivalry is undoubtedly 1911 vs. Glock. They could not be more opposite: the 1911 is a single-stack, heavy, all-steel, single action only hammer-fired gun with multiple external safety features (with both a thumb and a grip safety), while Glocks are double-stack note , polymer-framed, lightweight, striker-fired guns with no external safeties (it has a trigger safety, which means it only fires if the trigger is pulled all the way back). And these two models also serve as stand-ins for the larger debate between polymer vs. metal framed pistols: Despite the fact that polymer guns have taken over the firearms market for civilians, law enforcement, and military, there are still lots of people who will swear by steel only and have no time for "plastic" guns, while those on the other side look at the 1911 and its contemporaries as obsolete relics from a by-gone era.
      • And if you thought that was bad, there's the other big debate with pistols: what's better for concealed carry/self-defense, revolvers or self-loaders?
    • Leading into all of the above are the Great Caliber debates. 5.56mm or 7.62mm? 9mm or .45? .357 or .44? Speed or size? You will see fans of any popular caliber swearing by their favorites and deriding anything else as inferior.
    • To a lesser extent, shotgun fans are divided between Mossberg and Remington, especially for pump-action, and there is further debate between whole pump vs semi-auto shotguns for home defense and competition shooters. For hunters and clay shooters, this is also further extended between double-barrel break action-shotguns: side-by-sides or over/unders?
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  • Not even theoretical physics is immune from this; the most famous example (currently) is proponents of string theory vs. proponents of other theories, with the latter accusing the former of playing unfalsifiable, unscientific mathematical parlour .
    • Every science has this, in fact. For example, psychology had psychoanalysis vs. behaviourism at its outset, then behaviourism vs. cognitive psychology, then all of the above vs. evolutionary psychology and so on. And then there's hard (natural) science vs. soft (social) science, with people in the hard sciences accusing their softer brethren of being pseudosciences and people in the soft sciences accusing them of being smug elitists in turn. And then there's science people vs. arts people, whom they accuse of getting A Degree in Useless.
    • While on Hard on Soft Science, college students might get into some heated arguments: exact sciences vs. human/social sciences, exact sciences vs. biological sciences, law school vs. the other humanities...
  • When Brazilian movie magazine SET was sold to a different publisher, one of the editors started his own publication, Preview. Then his old boss returned to SET. The magazines have since started a rivalry, particularly fueled by the fact that SET suffered from chronic Schedule Slip until it ceased publication (Preview fans even call her "The Dead One").
  • As mentioned in the Sports section below, St. Louis and Chicago already have a baseball rivalry but this extends to the two cities themselves since they are basically the two major cities fighting over the center of the country... Kansas City being a possible third option.
  • Boeing vs. Airbus. This one's real Serious Business—after all, the former's biggest fanboy is a certain scholarly gent who goes by the name of Uncle Sam, while the latter has a major fangirl in Europa (no, not the moon of Jupiter). Boeing fans claim Airbus is an upstart company with a crummy name, that gets an unfair leg up with preferential loans from the EU. Airbus reply that Boeing is Not So Different, and is only kept afloat by Pentagon pork and US diplomatic pressure on countries to make their flag carriers buy it. Of course, this mirrors the fact that the companies themselves utterly loathe each other, to the extent that Boeing ignored Airbus's warnings over the 787 battery fiasco, believing them to be a sneaky plot. This rivalry ranges from mutual bitter WTO disputes, to hilariously bitchy advertisement wars.
    • Aviation enthusiasts also do this with airlines: United vs. Delta, British Airways vs. Virgin Atlantic, etc.
  • Reason vs FL Studio vs Ableton Live vs whatever other DAW.
  • In the dinosaur fanboy community, one of the biggest debates involves who would win in a fight between Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus (two of the largest carnivorous dinosaurs), with both sides involving fanboys who constantly think of reasons that their theropod is bigger or stronger while bashing the other. The feud probably started because the Spinosaurus replaced the T. rex in Jurassic Park III. Things get worse when the carcharodontosaur Giganotosaurus gets involved, with fanboys practically doing the same thing as the other two carnivores. In fact, it would probably extend to a battle of any of the largest carnivorous dinosaurs.
  • Hardcore palaeontology enthusiasts vs. people who like featherless dromaeosaurs (and other dinosaurs which are thought to have been feathered).
    • Paleontology fans vs. cryptozoology fans. Some try to find a healthy balance, but sadly the majority of paleo-nuts like to call crypto-nuts "delusional", while crypto-nuts call paleo-nuts "closed-minded".
  • Related to various parts of the the above, Darwinian evolutionists (including theistic evolutionists) vs creationists. Intelligent design is somewhere in the middle, accepting macroevolution but with a religious overtone.
    • The young-earth vs. old-earth debate, which is very related, focuses on geology and astronomy rather than biology.
  • If an American city has a kind of food it's famous for, this is bound to happen:
    • In Philadelphia, there's the cheesesteak, with the most well-known being Pat's Steaks vs. Geno's Steaks. Most actual Philadelphians actually eschew both, leaving them for the tourists, but still argue over which of the various alternatives they prefer (common ones include Jim's Steaks, Tony Luke's, and John's Roast Pork—which is more famous for its cheesesteaks. Some in nearby South Jersey might also throw in Donkey's Place in Camden, but being that Camden is um, Camden, it doesn't get mentioned much even though the steaks are good.)
    • In Chicago, there are innumerable claimants to the title of best Chicago deep dish pizza. A few places are more popular than others, but the only thing that most aficionados can agree on is that Pizzeria Uno—the unquestioned originator of the modern style—is no longer in the running (having turned into a national chain).
    • In Michigan, we get a layercake of rivalry respecting the Coney Island hot dog (a kind of chili dog that has nothing to do with the place in Brooklyn): First, there's a rivalry between Detroit-style dogs (which have a wetter chili) and Flint-style (which have a drier chili) as well as Jackson-style dogs (which claims Flint stole its recipe). Second, there's arguments within both the Detroit-style (American and Lafayette Coney Islands) and Flint-style (Angelo's and Starlite).
  • Kids vs. no kids. Some parents think it's their job to convince childless by choice people that they'll change their minds if they have kids or are around them, while conversely, too many childfree people think it's okay to mock and belittle those who do choose to have kids, to the point some more extreme types are full-on Child Haters.
  • In the world of pinball, Williams Electronics vs. Midway Games vs. Data East, even after Williams bought Midway (Bally was its pinball label) in 1987. When all three left the pinball business in 1999 leaving only Stern Pinball (see above), fans of all three companies ganged up on hating Stern and its fans. The current changed beginning in 2012, however, with a series of critical hits from Stern that led to a new appreciation of previously maligned Stern machines. With few people in pinball caring about the manufacturer now, the largest points of contentions are:
    • Modding: Is it acceptable to replace incandescent lights with LEDs on machines built before LEDs became standard? Are LEDs too bright for use in darkened locations, such as bars and private game rooms, or do they provide much-needed light for easier viewing? Is putting decals on certain things okay? Is bringing in a decoration from another pinball machine a playful show of humor or blasphemy against the machine and its makers? How much should one spend on modding? Should one even mod a pinball machine at all?
    • Licensed themes: There are groups that desperately want unlicensed machines, there are groups who are waiting for someone to make a pinball machine with a specific theme, and there are groups who are glad to see anything made at all and appreciate it when there's a theme they like but aren't dedicated fans of. This problem came to the forefront with the release of Full Throttle, the first unlicensed major release in 15 years, whose reception was lukewarm compared to surrounding releases.
    • Depiction of women: The release of Whoa Nellie! Big Juicy Melons from Stern prompted an outcry over Stern's social media pages over its misogyny and blatant Male Gaze. Stern accidentally fanned the flames by removing posts and comments criticizing said misogyny while, at the same time, IFPA, the largest tournament organization, announced women's only division for its major events. This has created a schism between women and male feminists vs. men (and a few women) who like the sex appeal of tables like Whoa Nellie!
  • In the roller coaster industry, there are several: for steel coasters, there is Bolliger & Mabillard vs. Intamin, and Schwarzkopf vs. Arrow Dynamics. For wooden coasters, there is the Gravity Group vs. Great Coasters International vs. Rocky Mountain Construction.
  • Krispy Kreme versus Dunkin Donuts is a common debate. Don't get Starbucks or Tim Hortons into the argument or you'll really have a brawl. And heaven forbid that your local coffee shops get in the mix.
  • Tabasco sauce vs. Sriracha sauce. Fans of both agree on one thing at least: That hot sauce goes on everything.
  • Fresh ramen vs. Ramen as Dehydrated Noodles. Fans of the former look down on instant ramen for being nothing compared to fresh ramen, while fans of the later defend its comparatively super-cheap cost and availability since not everyone has the budget to spend money to go to a ramen shop or the geographical proximity to one (especially if one lives outside of Japan).
  • Among guitarists, there are diehard fans of Gibson and Fender. More specifically, there's a lot of discussion about both companies' flagship models, two of the most iconic guitars of all time: the Gibson Les Paul and the Fender Stratocaster.
  • For a long time, amateur radio vs.CB. CB was a direct competitor to ham radio for newbies because it allowed users to communicate by voice, while beginning hams were limited to Morse Code. Also, the FCC placed the CB channels on a frequency band that had previously been assigned to hams (but was little used, which was why they took it away). Hams viewed CBers as riff-raff, CBers viewed hams as snobs. The decline in CB popularity plus the addition of some voice privileges for Novice Class hams in 1987 basically ended the rivalry.
  • There are two advocacy groups for the blind in the US: The American Council of the Blind, and the National Federation of the Blind. They have very different philosophies on how to integrate blind people into society. In general, the ACB thinks society should change to accommodate blind people, whereas the NFB thinks blind people should adapt to society as it is where possible. To outsiders, the NFB can seem radical and strident (they once campaigned against tactile currency because 'blind people can handle money just fine as is', while the ACB can seem whiny and needy. So strong is their mutual hatred that they schedule their national conventions at the same time, so you can't go to both.
  • This applies to some people who liked their favourite holiday with passion but hate another holiday with a vengeance and there are several of them: Christmas vs. Halloween, Valentine's Day vs. St. Patrick's Day, Easter vs. April Fool's Day, etc.

Alternative Title(s): Fan Wars