The Lord of Nightmares and The Unconquered Sun are up. What more should I add to these Jojo ideas?

Trish Una, Goddess of Mundane MacGuffin People

^{Click here to see Spice Girl} 

• Potential House: Character Roles (House of Characterization)
• Lesser Goddess
• Symbol: A picture of her mother with maths symbols drawn on the back
• Theme Song: Figlia
• Alignment: Neutral Good
• Portfolio: Heroic Bastard Of The Boss, A Regular Woman With Notable Plot Significance, Ms. Fanservice, Cat Motifs, Hidden Heart of Gold, The Quiet One, Has The Ability To Soften Things, Grows More Courageous And Confident, Action Girl, Pink Means Feminine
• Domains: Daughters, Insecurity And Confidence, Softening, Plots
• Allies: Bruno Bucciarati and his friends, Haru Okumura, Tyrion Lannister, N Harmonia, Rainbow Dash, Barbie, Raku Ichijou and Chitoge Kirisaki, Luke Skywalker, Samwell Tarly, Son Gohan, Eva Wei, Hector, Michael Jackson
• On good terms with: Cassandra Cain and Damian Wayne
• Odd Friendship with: Bulk and Skull
• Headbutting Heroes^note [[Affably sort]] of with: The Corleones, Anakin Skywalker
• Enemies: Diavolo (her father), Passione, La Squadra Esecuzioni, Tywin Lannister, kinslayers (unless they have a damn good reason to do so), Sakazuki, The Child Abuse Supporters, Ghetsis Harmonia, Talia Al-Ghul, Ember McLain
• Pities: Goro Akechi (sort of)
• Pitied by: Al Capone
• Respects:Charlotte Katakuri, Piccolo Jr
• By most accounts, Trish Una is an ordinary 15 year old, and yet she is someone of great importance to the men in Passione. Her long-lost father Diavolo wants her personally, Bucciarti was acting as her bodyguard to deliver her to him and other members were investigating her. Initially she seem a spoiled, selfish girl with high-class tastes, but in truth is a caring and insecure woman who manages to become generally courageous and self-confident.
• What did her father want her for? To kill her out of paranoia she might expose his identity. Never mind she barely knew anything about her dad and thought he was being concerned. Diavolo was enraged to learn that she had ascended to the pantheon. Justifiably Trish no longer gives a damn about her father and hates anybody who would unjustifiably kill their own family member. She's pretty repulsed by the Child Abuse Supporters too.
• Her Stand, Spice Girl, is a rare example of a Stand with a mind and personality of its own. It encouraged her to grow more confident. She recognizes this is similar to a Persona, and is investigating The Investigation Team and S.E.E.S about it. Of them she gets along with Fuuka because they both grew to be more confident over time and Rise because they're both idols.
• Spice Girl allows her to soften any material into a rubbery-like substance, which only sounds useless. Just ask Notorious B.I.G about it. She's been testing the Stand's potential in the House of Power. She was a bit disappointed to learn that the Spice Girls hadn't ascended as she wonders how they might feel about her naming for the Stand and use of "WANNABE!!" as her Kiai.
• She has associated with the Phantom Thieves as well. With her father escaping the Fate Worse than Death Giorno gave him through ascending to the Trope Pantheon, she would be fine to see him forcibly reformed through a heart change. Of them she gets along with Haru the most, due to standing up to her own(though still better) father. She was saddened to see what happened to Goro Akechi given his father was as much of a monster as Diavolo, but in no way does she condone his crimes or think his background gives much levity to them.
• To nobody's surprise, she hates abusive parents and what the Child Abuse Supporters stand for, leading to her butting heads with a number of gods yet at the same time finding new friends.
  • She is disgusted by Tywin's abuse of his family, and in turn respects Tyrion for growing from the baggage of his family. Granted it is more something in the TV show and in the core material has the risk of falling into Then Let Me Be Evil company. Interestingly Tywin agrees that Diavolo is a terrible father, saying to Trish that while his actions may be harsh he sees himself as a Knight Templar Parent seeking to keep Family Honor. After all, his own father was a kind man and exploited for it. Trish concedes the harshness of Westeros requires ruthlessness, but his fault lies in caring more about the idea of a family rather than family members, missing the point entirely.
  • Unlike her own father, it is Vader's unwillingness to strike down his son and compassion for him that ultimately made him a good man. However even after his redemption and death he is still a harsh man. She's proud of Luke for redeeming him.
  • Rather disgusted at Ghetsis for using and abusing his son. Technically not N's son, but he found him as a young child and raised him to be his pawn, eventually planning to get rid of him once he got control of Unova. The Ghetsis who's part of Team Rainbow Rocket almost certainly did. In one way he's even more vile than Diavolo, as at least he didn't even know Trish existed until she was 15.
  • Has good memories of her mother, who in the brief time he was with her Diavolo actually had a good relationship. Of course given his enigmatic nature, it's unclear if he really was a better person then or there's some sort of personality issue at hand like Doppio at play. Naturally she despises Talia due to her increasingly cruelty as a parent. Trish seems to pity both Cassandra Cain and Damian Wayne given their backgrounds.
• While Sakazuki doesn't have a family^note we hope, he Would Hurt a Child even remotely connected with piracy and spares nothing against people remotely related to criminal activity, such as Team Bucciarti. Though he's right to believe Diavolo is the spawn of evil, he considers Trish tainted by her father's crimes. Trish shoots back that for all his Knight Templar status, he is as deficient in empathy and remorse as her father. Admiral Akainu counters that while he may not care for people, he cares for the Law and that is all that matters...and Trish just thinks that's worse because he can never be convinced he's ever in the wrong.
• Trish is fond of Eva Wei for her desire to have her father acknowledge and respect for, as before Diavolo revealed his true colors she wanted to know about him and may have even wanted some acknowledgement. Eva's fortunate that Don Wei is a far better person than Diavolo, though he is still rather distant. Trish is also fond of Piccolo Jr for defying his demonic destiny and going through a Heel–Face Turn, becoming a good Parental Substitute. She does find it weird that he's technically only 4 years older than Gohan, though.
• Though associated with gangsters, Trish isn't too invested in the House of Crime. She gets being a Mafia Princess from their trope representative and likes them, but is more associated with the house because of who her friends are. Al Capone is watching over her as unlike Diavolo he is deeply concerned with his child and wants to give her treatment her father should have. Trish simply replied "thanks, but no thanks, I'm not that interested in your mafia".
• Having grown as a person and into a hero of her own right, she is on surprisingly pleasant terms with Bulk and Skull. Trish is also on good terms with Son Gohan and Charlotte Kakaturi due to how they've grown as a person and in terms of their abilities.
• Currently pursuing a successful career in pop music. Her ascension to the Trope Pantheon had her end up joining Michael Jackson in his performances, and has also being doing some singing with Hector. She can sympathize with the plight he went through. She isn't fond of Ember and her attempt to take control of the stage, though is OK joining in rock concerts if she doesn't pull a fast one.

Ringo Roadagain, God of Explaining Your Powers to the Enemy

• House: Power Levels and Appearance (House of Power)
• Lesser God
• Symbol: His impossibly stylish goatee
• Alignment: Lawful Neutral
• Portfolio: Explaining Your Powers to the Enemy To Keep Things Fair (Rewinds Time By Six Seconds), A Charismatic, Brilliant And Noble Foe, Blood Knight, Death Seeker, Silver Fox, A Cool Skull-Goatee, Resembles Charles Bronson, The Gunslinger, Dark and Troubled Past
• Domains: Duels, Gunslingers, the Wild West, Fairness, Manhood
• Interested in: Jiren, Whis
• Allies: John Marston, Hit, Gunvolt, The Heroic Protectors of Family, Boba Fett
  • Hired by: Funny Valentine
• On good terms with: Theodore Roosevelt, Philip J Fry, Lars Fillmore, Son Goku
• On speaking terms with: Ringo Starr, Horus
• Rivals: Jesse McCree, Scarface
• Respects: George McFly, Emmett Brown, Jarvan Lightshield IV, and to a lesser extent Leonard Snart
• Enemies: Rapists, successful or attempted (particularly the Brave Companions and Ethan Roark Jr), Lord Djibril
  • Worthy Opponents: Johnny Joestar and Gyro Zeppeli, Barry Allen, Wally West
  • Friendly Enemy: Joe Swanson
• Wary of: The House of Thieves
• Uncertain on: Hunter Zolomon
• In the Steel Ball Run, Funny Valentine hired a number of people to help in his ambitions. One of them is Ringo Roadagain. He seeks to duel those who come his way in order to purge himself of fear and uncertainty. His Stand, Mandom, lets him rewind time by six seconds, leaving everyone in its range with the memory of what happened in those seconds. An honorable duelist, Ringo explains how his powers work as he feels that it's only proper for both parties to do so, for they may be on an equal level.
• Named after Ringo Starr, who he seems relatively fond of. Resembles Charles Bronson. And generally on good terms with other cowboy deities, like John Marston. He's planning for a duel with Jesse McCree. Joe Swanson was warned of this and is opposing potential illegal activities as his role as a cop, however there's Nothing Personal and Joe respects Ringo's machismo. Scarface was interested in his Blood Knight nature and duels, and has requested they have a fight.
• Ringo's youth was not a pleasant one. His father died in prison from a disease after serving in the military. He had hemophilia and both his mother and sisters were killed by a bandit who tried to rape him, but he struck back and shot his would-be assaulter. Because of this, he is a close ally to the Heroic Protectors of Family, and while they don't agree on many things he respects Horus' goal of vengeance against the murder of his father.
• His Stand, Mandom, lets him rewind time by six seconds with the touch of a wristwatch. It causes disorientation in those unready for it and is mainly a support for duels. Fry was reminded of the 10 second Reset Button he used, though that didn't end well for him. He considers Ringo cool and someone to emulate in the search for mandom. His duplicate Lars has already gone on his own path to strengthen himself.
• Was hired by Funny Valentine, though he doesn't exactly have any real feelings for the 23rd president. Despite his connection to Valentine, Theodore Roosevelt has a good amount of respect for Ringo, and the feeling is mutual. It's all driven by their shared views in manhood, courage and fair play.
• Given his background, he tends to stay away from the House of Thieves. But if you're a rapist, attempted of successful, you have Ringo's deep contempt. The full extent of his hatred is directed to Ethan Roark Junior, as he is a sadistic pedophile and Serial Killer (Ringo was 10 at the time of his Attempted Rape), but is also an utter coward which flies in the face of his own journey. For that matter, he loathes Lord Djibril for being an idiotic and psychopathic coward.
• On the opposite side of things, he respects George McFly for not only stopping date rape, but growing to become a courageous soul and finding his own mandom. He's fond of Doc Brown too, although as a mercenary they tend to keep their distance from him. Boba Fett was impressed by Ringo and his personality, and the two have decided to work bounties together.
• Has been seen working with Hit and Gunvolt, two honorable assassins. Hit in particular has embraced the idea of a good fight, plus the two share time-based powers. Goku was prepping for a potential fight with him. Ringo is interested in both Whis and Jiren. Whis comes down to his Reset Button power. For Jiren, he has come to seek what lies beyond strength, and has grown from a loner with a troubled past to a stronger man in the mental and emotional sense.
• Finds the Brave Companions to be a truly repulsive group of assassins. They're rapists and Stupid Evil sadists, not to mention cowards who don't deserve their name. He finds Captain Cold to be a much better person due to his honor, despite being wary due to his nature as a thief. Snart privately admits he's pretty stylish himself.
• His interest with Captain Cold and mercenary career led him to cross paths with both ascended Flashes, to which he ended up getting involved in duels. Despite their Super-Speed they ended up humoring them for a bit when it came to their duels. In general, he likes how they have grown. Hunter Zolomon was intrigued by Ringo due to his self-improvement from tragedy, forcing Gyro to grow and eventually shoot him. Ringo thinks Zolomon has good intentions, but it's the execution which is seriously flawed.

For image consistency, I think You should remove Spice Girl from the images

there should be a space before Katakuri.

Edited by 227someguy on Jun 30th 2020 at 8:54:07 AM

Time for a suggestion.

The Shopwell’s Products, Gods and Godesses of Adult Works Mistaken For Children’s Media

• Reason: It really isn't.
  • Those who first watched the Red Band trailer anticipated that it would be a children's movie since it involved anthropomorphic food and that it bore an uncanny resemblance to what you would see in a Disney, Pixar or DreamWorks film. Then, once the Irish potato dropped the F-bomb, said viewers thought, "What the hell is this?". One of the TV spots had to give a warning that the movie is rated R twice the first at the very beginning and the later ones even had to put a red stamp saying "Rated R" on the film's release date.
  • A trailer for the film was shown just before Finding Dory in one California theater. The theater apologized later on, explaining that Dory had not been scheduled in that auditorium until late due to unexpected demand, and they had forgotten to switch it out with an adult-oriented movie (and its trailers) playing earlier in the same auditorium. The theater stated that the Sausage Party trailer has never been scheduled with Dory; however, it has been speculated that the reason the error wasn't caught until it was too late was because the first trailer to play was for a bright, cheerful-looking animated picture.
  • And after the home release, several stores and streaming services have put a big red "Rated R" label on the movie's cover and advertising, less risking a parent bring this movie home for his little child.
  • Verizon Fios initially incorrectly labeled the movie as having a PG-13 rating. According to a Tumblr post, this also happened at one Regal Cinemas location in New York during the Columbus Day weekend re-release when a PG-13 MPAA rating card showed up before the movie started.^note The PG-13 rating doesn't particularly mean a film is kid-friendly either, but this film definitely makes anything PG-13 rated you've seen look G-rated in comparison.
  • The movie is rated 11+ in Sweden, and 12+ in Norway and France.^note In the cases of Sweden and Norway, this is actually because their rating systems don't have an official rating for adults, so they went for the next best thing... which unfortunately happened to be the preteen ratings.

, man I am thrilled we're getting so many Not-Kids-Friendly-At-All films now

Should we increase Sephiroth’s rank to Greater God because if you played the remake...

Does the Sephiroth here include his Remake version, or is it just his compilation self? That can decide any rank alterations.

A mention of him screwing with the timeline is in his profile so I guess it's both?

Any alteration regarding the Remake would be incomplete because the story of the Remake is not out in its entirety yet so i wouldn't try to make major changes yet.

And its less a remake and more of a reimagening. Things could change for Sephirot in the new FFVII

Turns out the Sephiroth in the remake is aware of the events of the original Final Fantasy Vii, and so is trying his best to alter the remake’s events to make him on top. By the end, he absorbs the Meteor’s power and can completely screw with space-time without a Super Mode. Also, by logic he might be able to become his infamous One-Winged Angel form at any moment and might even be aware of the events of Dissidia, making him at his most dangerous now

Though, likely we should wait when the remake trilogy is over... whenever that may be/

Oh wow did writing on Kingdom Hearts mess on Nomura's narrative sense. wtf

@Gigan: Sweden and Norway didn't rate Sausage Party that low because they lack higher rating; Sweden has a 15 rating and Norway has an 18 rating. The real reason they rated SP so low is because they are not easily offended by food that swears and has sex like Americans are. Trust the Puritans to think that all it takes to make a cartoon for adults is adding copious swearing and orgies. Little do they know it makes their "adult" cartoon look more immature.

/rant over

Actually, for once Nomura’s nonsense is actually genius this time.

He had made a way for the remakes to diverge from the game everyone knows about in an actual In-Universe thing that makes sense.

Though all of KH is on him. Baiting me with a new saga at your finale lost me and questioned why I bought the entire saga on PS 4 Even after I knew, goddamit.

Kairi being an NPC in Rachet and Clank as we wrote somehow surpassed that I’m afraid

In the Phillippines we have R13 and R18... yet we still tried censoring Schindler's List

we have a whole lot of Camp Gay in the Philippines, one even has a reality show (no marriage rights yet). If it is a mass-released product, they wont do Shit to it.

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Jun 30th 2020 at 7:39:25 AM

Then if they didn't like that film then it means The Last of Us Part 2 will get banned there

@Gigan What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids? is a broad trope and can easily fit some of the older cartoons. So I'd agree with wootzits that choosing another suggestion would be fitting. I'd rather not jump the gun than to meddle with something that has been a rather not-so-friendly reception.

Yes, but SP is still one of the most well known of the What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids? cartoons, along with the fact that most other candidates are already in the Pantheon, and your “older cartoons” argument sounds like Nostalgia Filter at work.

I was talking to Hamana.

No.

Edited by GeneralGigan817 on Jun 30th 2020 at 11:23:20 AM

Woots wasn't contesting the idea, just ranting on ratings in general

And i wasn't talking to you

I have no clue what i was suggested last time so reposting

Alright, who is next?

A siren is heard from a distance
Siren Head, Divine Monster of Perfect Voice Mimicking

• Potential House: Voices
• Intermediate Deity
• Symbol: The Sirens
• Alignment: Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Evil, the Nature of Siren Head is not very clear
• Portfolio: Ambiguously Evil, Preys on humans, Humanoid Abomination, Breakout Character, It Can Think, Lives in the woods
• Domains: Monsters, Woods, Sirens, Voices, Killing
• Allies: Ithaqua, Pyramid Head, SMG4 Mario, Chris and Swagmaster
• Rivals: The Slender Man
• Enemies: The SCP Foundation, Any deity from Silent Hill
• The Siren Head is an elusive creature said to be found wandering around the empty wilderness of the world. Whenever someone hears the forebonding sound of a Siren, one is sure to know the Siren Head is around and it it catches you then god knows what will happen to you. His preferred method of hunting is luring people with the voice of a friend or loved one or even the sound of animals, as Siren Head is able to mimic those sounds almost perfectly.
• The Siren Head is said to have emerged from the House of Nature after several deities were found dead in several parts of said house and reports of a distant siren noise being heard with occasional warning broadcast about an imminent danger. The Pantheon Authorities issued an investigation and one unlucky deity found the culprit was none other than Siren Head, who then narrowly escaped its clutches and requested the aid of the SCP Foundation in hopes on capturing the creature, which they succeeded.
• The temple that holds the Siren Head is a wood area and has only a warning sign towards potential trespasser. Several of the Foundation members found that the sirens the creature would occasionally emit would be enough of a deterrent for other deities to NOT enter the house but these agents never accounted for the creature getting out of its temple by themselves and causing a lot of havoc. Which is why nowadays the temple has a lot more security protocols, though from time to time the Siren Head finds a way to break out.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Jun 30th 2020 at 12:06:07 PM

Are you going to accuse us of being biased every time an idea suggested here gets contested?

the Wendigo can also imitate voices to lure unsuspecting victims. the Bedtime Stories crew have seen their fair share of weird cryptids, so they might have their two cents on this thing.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jun 30th 2020 at 8:13:15 AM

I have no idea why, but I can picture the Hawkins Party coming across and having to face off against the Siren Head. Or maybe the thing reminds me of the Demogorgon due to looking humanoid, yet so otherworldly.

Also, I can see the Qurupeco as a Follower/High Priest as that's a monster known for mimicking other monsters' voice as a means of deception.

Well, here's OG Evil Overlord rework right here. Aside from being that, keep in mind that Sauron is more than just that; a disgraced Maiar, master planner and manipulator, among the closest things Middle-earth has to a Mad Scientist and a skillet crafter before his fall in the Second Age.

Any suggestions and ideas are most welcome.

Prototype Mode:

Sauron, God of Dark Lords (Tar-Mairon the Excellent [his original name], The Dark Lord of Mordor, The Enemy, The Eye, The Lord of The Rings, Base Lord of Treachery, The Necromancer, Annatar, Lord of Gifts, Gorthaur the Cruel)

^{The Eye of Sauron} 

^{His lost, beautiful Form} 

^{The One Ring} 

• Greater God, borderline Overdeity with the One Ring.
• Symbols: The Great Eye, the One Ring.
• Theme Music: Mordor
• Alignment: Lawful Evil
• Portfolio: Fallen Maiar, Sorcerous Overlord, Evil Light (and later on Evil Darkness), Bastard Understudy, From Dragon To New Dark Lord, Pride, The One Ring, Motives Corrupted By Evil, Order Through Tyranny, Werewolves, Shapeshifter Mode Lock, The Necromancer, Villainous Mastermind, Tin Tyrant, Evil Is Burning Hot
• Domain: Corruption, Evil, Destruction, Trickery, Law, Despotism
• Superior: J. R. R. Tolkien
• Top General For: Darkseid
• Allies:
  • Harbingers Of Repression: The Witch-King of Angmar, Big Brother, Lord Recluse, The Anti-Spiral, Shao Kahn, Alduin, Cooler, Tenjuro Banno, Mileena, Vanitas, Smaug, Eredin Bréacc Glas
  • Other Allies: Ar-Pharazon, Nightmare, Bernkastel, Gul'dan, Warboss Ghazghkull, Arthas Menethil, Maleficent
• Former Master: Melkor
• Former Allegience: Grand United Alliance of Evil
• Working Relationship With: YHVH and the Grand United Alliance of Law
• Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Ungoliant, Archaon, Deathwing, King Ghidorah
• Rivals: Malekith, Lord Voldemort, Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, Megatron, Dormammu, Shinnok, King Sombra (one-sided on Sombra's part)
• Enemies:
  • Middle-earth: Aragorn, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo Baggins, Talion, Samwise Gamgee, Legolas, Gimli, Elrond, Treebeard, Manwë Sulimo
  • Other Enemies: Twilight Sparkle, The Mane Six, Discord, Princesses Celestia and Luna, Sora, Kairi, Riku, Roxas, Xion, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, Madoka Kaname, Sayaka Miki, Kyoko Sakura, Princess Sofia, Kent Nelson/Doctor Fate, Lucina, Alm, Celica, Corrin, Raiden, Mario, Link, Princess Zelda, Saria, Thrall, Tyrion, Teclis, Harry Potter, Akame, Night Raid, Drizzt Do'Urden, Azir, Vulcan, Merlin, King Arthur, Arturia Pendragon, Gilgamesh
• Opposes: Eru Ilúvatar, Smeagol/Gollum, Cosmos and the Grand United Alliance of Good, Lucifer and the Grand United Alliance of Chaos, House of Friendship, Lord Tirek
• On Speaking Terms With: The Ebon Dragon
• Mairon the Admirable was one of the finest and most well-regarded of the Maiar, renowned for his expertise and skill in craft, whom he was taught by Ainu Aule and prioritized love and protection above all. Unfortunately, Mairon was swayed into corruption, courtesy of Melkor, who became embittered with jealousy and rage over not being able to match up to his superior and Top God, Eru Ilúvatar. Melkor, now rebranding himself as Morgoth vowed to distort and completely ruin Middle-earth with Mairon, who had changed his alias to Sauron serving as his ultimate lieutenant alongside Ancalagon, greatest of all winged dragons, and Gothmog, lord of the balrogs. However, after Melkor was defeated and banished into the Void, Sauron took it upon himself to succeed him as the next Dark Lord. To take over Middle-earth, he took the guise of an elf named Annatar and joined along with elves, dwarfs and mankind to create a series of special rings that would grant them awesome. However, what they didn't know was that Sauron was crafting another ring, one that would seize control of the other 19 wearers. The elves and dwarfs were lucky to avoid control, but the 9 men were too late and were enslaved, becoming the Nazgûl. Despite being exposed and losing his angelic and beautiful appearance, Sauron amassed his army and assaulted the free races in one giant battle. Despite coming close, Sauron was defeated when he lost possession of his ring and physical body, but having poured his soul and hate into the One Ring, he endured long enough to curse the man who defeated him, Isildur, into dying at an ambush Orc attack. However, the ring was lost...
  • ...until it was found by a Hobbit named Smeagol who kept it. The ring's influence allowed Smeagol to bypass his original lifespan, but it's corrupting powers twisted and distorted Smeagol in mind and body, becoming Gollum. Gollum would lose the ring, whereupon it would end up in the hands of Bilbo Baggins. The ring would be inherited by Bilbo's nephew Frodo, who would take it upon himself and a group known as the Fellowship of the Ring to take the ring to Mount Doom to destroy it. Finally finding out about the ring's return, Sauron did everything in his power to reclaim it, but the persistence and determination of the Fellowship, their friends, family and alliance and the sudden role and influence Gollum had managed to outlast long enough for the One Ring to be destroyed. Hence, Sauron's influence was suddenly and permanently crushed, which was indicated by the collapse of Barad-dûr.
• Sauron was actually among the first beings in the Pantheon. His first chronological sighting was soon after Melkor managed to free himself from the Void and establish the Grand United Alliance of Evil. As the original Dark Lord needed to quickly amass a group of followers to combat against Cosmos, Sauron was quickly bought back and was the ultimate general to the GUAE. Despite his prestigious position, Sauron would soon face competition as the GUAE Mastermind was beginning to add more members, starting with the Four Horsemen, composing of Griffith, Johan Liebert, Majin Buu. Although he was a bit annoyed that the three of them were given a higher position than him, Sauron still held a great influence among villains, as demonstrated as many of the battles between the GUAE and GUAG were led by Sauron on the former's side with a varying win-loss streak.
  • However, Sauron's reputation, popularity and influence began to take a dip overtime with the appearances of newer, more interesting and more competent villains for Melkor to sway to his side. Sauron himself pretended to look like he took it pretty well... until the day came when the GUAE Malum Magia was to have its top leader announced, a prospect that the Dark Lord was looking forward to. It came as a very shocking dismay when it was announced that Lord Voldemort was to represent and lead the Malum Magia. Infuriated, Sauron approached Melkor and demanded why he was getting neglected and passed over, to which the original Dark Lord mused that Sauron hasn't been doing all too well with his role either, especially his crippling defeat in the end of the Third Age. A few complaints later, Sauron took some time off to brood and reflect whether Melkor truly valued him...
  • During his time in isolation, Sauron was met by Darkseid, who by that time, had made himself known for opposing Melkor. The God of Apokolips told the Dark Lord that he wanted a conversation and that he was feeling alienated. Darkseid then revealed that he and Melkor had differing ideals and end goals; Melkor wanted to obliterate Arda and Middle-earth out of spite and anger whereas Sauron was aiming for law and order to be imposed on every race and land where he would be in control and that at the end of the day, Sauron and Melkor would just butt heads on deciding what should happen in the end. Darkseid then concluded that as a fellow outcast when it comes to villains, he asked Sauron if they could join forces and that he himself was aiming for law and order himself before departing. In just one meeting, Sauron entered a very reflective and deep thought about his past, actions and allegiance. He saw that Darkseid was right; he and Melkor weren't really compatible, in spite of being his apprentice and top lieutenant and their goals were always different.
  • His lack of any meaningful rank to justify his Evil Overlord representation, Darkseid's conversation and his reflection all culminated in a last straw; Sauron left the GUAE and took along with him all of his most trusted allies and the armies that he personally had control of, but not before leaving a note to slam Melkor for being a coward in situations where he would meet his match, usually relying on Sauron himself when it comes to plans and strategies and for neglecting his first top general. He immediately came to Apokolips to swear his allegiance to Darkseid and become his chief enforcer. Sauron was the first of many potential recruits in the Harbingers Of Repression, which Darkseid created to represent his own faction from being free of the GUAE's influence.
• While Melkor was the first Dark Lord, Sauron is arguably the more popular one of the two, something with he can boast about. Still, with how Melkor still has more power than him, Sauron usually keeps quiet about him. Even disregarding the popularity challenge, Sauron still seeks to usurp, or at least surpass Melkor in some way or another. Being in the GUAE hampered this direction, given how he had to grovel and take orders from his master frequently, but since his defection and joining the Harbingers, Sauron can now actively plan out what he can do to challenge Melkor. The first thing he wants to do is become a better fighter. Sure his main strength is creation and deception, but someday, you have to look strong and imposing.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Jun 30th 2020 at 4:25:08 PM

@Siren Head: I don't know if this will be of any use, but Joel of Vinesauce played some amateurish Siren Head games since he's played plenty of horror games (including some Slenderman games). The last game in the (hour-long) video I posted was of a dating sim styled VN starring Siren Head, which comes off as strange to me (though to me, it's existence might just be because some people want to take advantage of how unusual Siren Head is).

Edited by r-lock256 on Jun 30th 2020 at 8:23:09 AM

The Mouth of Sauron could be his herald.

@ Excessive: for the girls

@ Crimson: An interaction with Jyggalag considering they both have that Tin Tyrant thing going on with the both of them. I'm all but certain Jyg's appearance is derives from Sauron.

So, here's a bit of progress on the Eden guys and gals, bios and playstyles being added + a pic of Terrable. Did something a bit different and moved up all their bios to the second bullet.

Mostly, this draft is just laying out the framework with all the suggestions I got from last time. If there's anything else to suggest let me know because more than likely what you see is going to be finalized next time.

Saffron, Reva, Gunner, Selicy, Hazel, Terra, Shiso, Violette, and Shopkeeper, Divine Cast of Nobody Dying (Saffron: Saff | Selicy: Slicey, Irelia | Hazel: Hey-Zel | Terra: Terrable)

^Terrable 

• Potential House: Manners of Survival and Beginnings And Endings
• s:
• Intermediate Deities
• Symbol: Eden itself.
• Theme Song: Main Theme (general) Drawing Dead (Saffron) White Knight (Reva) Garoad - Hot Blooded (Gunner) Fairfrozen (Selicy) Perpetual Motion (Hazel) Unbreakable (Terra) One Step From Eden (Terra as Terrable) Cloak and Revolver (Shiso) Neverending Song (Violette) Triggered (Shopkeeper)
• Alignment:
• Portfolio: Roguelike, Science Fantasy setting, Improbably Female Cast, Fight Like a Card Player, Shout Outs galore, Secret A.I. Moves, No Plot? No Problem!, Mercy Rewarded, Allied bosses save the chosen character in the Golden Ending
  • Saffron: Science Hero, Sufficiently Analyzed Magic, Jack of All Stats, Bare Your Midriff
  • Reva: Knight in Shining Armor, Martial Pacifist, Luckily, My Shield Will Protect Me
  • Gunner: Hired Gun, Consummate Professional, BFG, Attack! Attack! Attack!, Recoil Boost
  • Selicy: An Ice Person, Storm of Blades, Dash Attacks, Hurricane of Puns
  • Hazel: The Engineer/The Turret Master, Wrench Whack, Always Second Best to Saffron
  • Terra: Lady of Black Magic, Staff of Authority, Final Boss of the Golden Ending as Terrable
  • Shiso: The Gunslinger, The Stoic, Coup de Grâce, Knife Nut, Scarf of Asskicking, Cool Shades
  • Violette: Musical Assassin, Magic Music, Musical Gameplay, Graceful Ladies Like Purple, Nice Hat
  • Shopkeeper: Intrepid Merchant, Potential Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, Money Mauling, Shoplift and Die, Red Eyes, Take Warning, Bonus Boss
• Domains: Roguelikes, Cards, Travel
• Followers:
• Allies: Lan Hikari and MegaMan.EXE, Eugene Chaud, Iris.EXE, The Robed Figure, Madeline, Max Rockatansky, Imperator Furiosa, The Human Child/Frisk, Iji Kataiser, Oboromaru
  • Saffron:
  • Reva:
  • Gunner:
  • Selicy:
  • Hazel:
  • Terra:
  • Shiso:
  • Violette:
  • Shopkeeper:
• Rivals:
• Frequently employed by: Stella of the Falcons (Saffron and Hazel)
• Unknown Rival: Dr. 0 (Also Saffron and Hazel)
• Enemies: Zonda and the Seven, Deviljho
  • Saffron:
  • Reva:
  • Gunner:
  • Selicy:
  • Hazel:
  • Terra:
  • Shiso:
  • Violette:
  • Shopkeeper:
• Respected by/Respects:
• Pitied by/Pities:
• Opposed by/Opposes:
• Conflicting Opinion:
• Wary of: Bass.EXE
• Saffron, Reva, Gunner, Selicy, Hazel, Terra, Shiso, Violette, and Shopkeeper. These nine travelers hail from a home torn apart by war and their only hope is reaching the promised land that is Eden. Yet the road to such a place is treacherous. Various monsters stand in their path, yet the most dangerous hurdles come from each other. Inevitably, they have to come to blows and best them to continue on but in order to truly make it to their destination each and every last one of them has to be spared, save for perhaps Terra after her brief stint as the final opponent on that route^note In her case it was possibly brought out as a Superpowered Evil Side or Enemy Without in her scenario but the story is quite light, anyways If even one of them is executed on the way there none of the rest actually make it to the titular place all thanks to Serif, Eden's guardian, smiting them for trying to force their way in. Just one step from Eden, if you will. Worser still is the scenario in which one of them going out of their way to execute the rest there, which would include the Shopkeeper, as they end up being its very destroyer by way of actually taking down Serif herself. And that was just after fighting their way through Eden itself. In short, sparing people really has its boons here. It saves lives, yours included.
• The nine travelers are as follows:
  • Saffron, the starting character and poster girl for the game. A military scientist before embarking on her journey, she's apparently had a hand in designing a number of spells and technologies and prefers to think through when it comes to her problems. One of the more friendlier faces, but may have a bit of an ego (especially when it comes to casting) and isn't above using her foes as field testing for her spells. That, and she's still a beast when it comes to combat.
  • Reva, the veritable knight in shining armor. Even after escaping from a war-torn world her ideals remain stalwart as her shield, Eschaton: There are still people out there worth protecting from whatever dangers the world has to throw at everyone. She will not shy away from fighting if it's the sake of the defenseless, but that doesn't mean she'll particularly enjoy it, killing even less so. It's to the point that she expresses the most remorse out of the entire cast and of out of all the bosses she has the highest default spare ratio numbering at 21%. In fact, Reva outright calls out many of her fellow travelers for their actions in the past. Reva came to accept them, however, especially as they pretty much improved themselves after the whole journey in the end.
  • Gunner's a mercenary hot-shot with a preference towards firepower through guns and munitions to solve problems. Yeah, who knew, right? Apparently, he's got quite the reputation on his hands with hundreds of kills to his name before starting out his journey. Befitting his occupation he has quite the professional attitude, even treating the path to Eden as just another mission. This notably makes him one of the more unscrupulous members of this band despite being one of the youngest, at one point even telling Reva that whether she likes it or not everyone days sooner or later.
  • Selicy is a girl who proclaims herself as a queen of the North. She's fond of the simple things in life: She loves the cold, sharing what she loves, and getting up into enemies faces. She’s a cryomancer, if you couldn’t tell, but her demeanor is anything but chill. Definitely one of the rudest of the group, even for her young age, making her quite the bratty tomboy. Her attitude improved a bit after getting to Eden, but her love for ice puns remains.
  • Hazel’s her name, Hexawan engineering is her game. You can tell because she’s lugs around a person-sized wrench on her body at all times. Hazel knows her way through all sorts of machines, most notably more dangerous sorts of tech that serve as weapons. Skilled as she was, however, it wasn’t enough to prevent whatever kind of disaster that befell her old home. Nor was it ever enough to surpass Saffron in any achievements, something Hazel has greatly resented. Their rivalry continues but thankfully after making it to Eden they’ve pretty much made up and it’s more on the friendly, but heated kind of competitions.
  • The “leader of her new world”, Terra carries the elegant aura of such a figure and possesses great skill over black magic. As a result she gives off quite the menacing and sometimes even malicious aura, fitting as she ends up as the Pacifist route’s Final Boss under the form of “Terrable” despite being spared earlier. It’s unknown why she suddenly decided to turn on the group though there’s evidence of it being an Enemy Without type of deal. Might stem from some dark power and/or artifact, but who really knows at this point. What’s certain is that she genuinely has a change of heart after being spared yet again. Also, she likes to break things.
  • Face-obscuring scarf, jet-black shades, overall dark clothing, Shiso’s is the closest to your archetypal rogue. A selfish loner, he's perhaps the most remorseless with the lowest default spare ratio everyone with a measly 7%. Of course, like everyone else he probably got a bit better at least after having traveled to Eden. Maybe sparing the rest/being spared himself done something good underneath. His decision to use the Lynchpin and low opinions on magic may also point to him being a bit old-fashioned too.
  • Keep to the beat when Violette is around. You may not even have a choice in the matter, anyways. This violinist has quite a dignified, charming air to her, and remains just as graceful even in battle. An older woman like herself might be a bit pompous, but she is always grateful to those who have the time to appreciate her music. It’s an exhausting art, sure, but it’s also what gives her life and nothing else even comes to making her happy besides it.
  • You’d think people would look to safer, stabler places to set up shop but when has business ever been truly halted by danger? Shopkeeper has wares if you have coin and they usually include artifacts, spells, upgrades, and even removals. Other than she can also refresh her stock, take blood in exchange for money, or form pacts for free that prove rewarding if one can take the heat for a while. On Dark routes, stock that costs money now takes health as well. Usually pleasant to talk to, until she isn’t if the attitude she shows in her character select and when encountered in Dark roads are anything to go off of. Then again, it’s probably a more stressful venture than looks so maybe it’s best to give her a break.
• Following the outcome in which all of them make it to Eden and Terra is shown mercy, the nine heroes have since settled their differences to live peaceful lives there. And yet seems as though none of them could quite escape that call to adventure. At one point did someone among this band catch wind of yet another faraway place and out of curiosity (and maybe against one's better judgement too) decided to undertake yet another trip. Maybe Shopkeeper wanted to expand her business, maybe Gunner was tasked with a new job, maybe Reva was beckoned by the prospect of more people needing her help, it's quite unclear. What was clear was that they ended up incidentally galvanizing the rest of their compatriots to travel together once more. Good thing too, the road ahead of them was not only as long as the road to Eden but there was a great deal of dangers, some familiar and others none of them have ever seen before. Still, they made it and found themselves at the Pantheon's doorstop.
  • Stepping inside, they were congratulated for making the trip all the way out here. As per customs, all nine of them were offered a trip around and were at one point offered placement within the place as Gods. The lot of them were pretty skeptical at the offer, as expansive and awe-inspiring as the Pantheon was they found it hard to give up Eden after everything they went through though lucky for them they didn't necessarily have to choose between the two. Should they accept, they're able to freely travel between the two worlds whenever they like. Weighing in their options, personal interests, and concern regarding some of the other gods and goddesses coming onto Eden, they ended up accepting the proposition.
• Given that their game of deck-building combat in a tile-based battleground takes great inspiration from the Mega Man Battle Network series it shouldn't come off as that big of a surprise when many of the deities from said series took time out of their days to meet them. Lan Hikari, MegaMan.EXE, Eugene Chaud, and Iris.EXE had little trouble getting along with them, even including the more aloof members though hailing from the Pacifist route might have something to do with that. There was only one god absent from that day's line up and upon being asked out about Lan and Eugene explained to them about the existence of Bass.EXE. Since then they've been cautious of him given his disdain for humans and their perceived betrayal, even if he is more-so focused on MegaMan.EXE for besting him.
• (Those who undertook a journey: Robed Figure, Madeline, Max and Furiosa)
• (Frisk, Iji Kataiser, Oborumaru)
• (Zonda and the Seven) Heard of an organization
• (Stella and Dr. 0)
• (Deviljho)
• Saffron only:
  • Perhaps fitting Saffron's brilliant mind she's a Jack of All Trades and her default loadout is not only a good mix of different spells but she's able to fit into any desired focus of spells she sees fit. Anima, Glimmer, Miseri, if you can name it she can probably fit into it. If she has to pick a favorite, though, she does favor Ragnarok. It's even her sole spell in one of her alternate loadouts, the aptly named Solo, which encourages the execution of hostages for extra max HP^note Since this loadout is acquirable from killing Serif she doesn't necessarily use it here. And speaking of alternate loadouts, the other one has her trade out the Field Bracer for a wristwatch that slows down time. As an opposing boss, her patterns aren't all two different from spells acquirable by the player though she does gain a plushie of her likeness which can retaliate against attacks done to it. In both instances as a character and boss she's able to Auto-Revive by way of Second Soul.
  • (Susie)
  • (Ciel)
  • "I guess you could call me a magical girl."
• Reva only:
  • In both loadouts she's able to outright reflect oncoming attacks with her shield (self-damage included). While her default loadout focuses on building up as much shields as she possibly can through Phalanx spells, even through something as simple as moving, her alternate loadout of Beat conversely doubles down on retaliation with any hit (again, self-damage included) resulting in a attack of some sort. Fittingly as a boss she doesn't have much in the way of offense but besides obviously making up in defense the attack she does dish out will hurt. Oh, and she can summon Slashers to help her out. No biggie or anything.
  • (Mashu, Captain America, Shield Knight, Steven Universe)
    • (Maple, Bridgette, Reinhardt)
  • (Naofumi, Darkness)
  • "We don't have to fight anymore."
• Gunner only:
  • If you fond of gunplay then you've come to the right place with this guy. The Manafire loadout has him start out him some decent spells but with zero mana regen. Thus, his source of Mana would mainly come from hosing just about everything in your sights with M4 Manafire to bombard the enemy with his spell arsenal. Bullhell, however, strays from the use of spells (starting with only a Bomb Toss) in favor of riskier up-close and personal relationship with M3 Triwing. In both loadouts, shuffling the deck increases his attack so always be on the offensive when he's without spells and later on he's able. Later on, he's also able to trade in his gun for a M2 Hunter Seeker or a M1 Liofire. That big gun of his is powerful enough to boost himself and he takes it a step further in his boss fight to either get the high ground or ram himself right into his enemies.
  • (Firearms and Projectiles)
  • "Stand right there."
• Selicy only:
  • What you see is what you get with Selicy: Slice and dice with some razor sharp ice. She's built around Frost Anima spells and her default loadout of Snow encourages her to zip around the battlefield and inflict Frost to lead into her Snowpiercer. Likewise, the Invade loadout encourages this tenfold with Fairfrozen allowing her to get right into the enemy's face and lane while moving as much as possible with Cool Shoes restoring her mana for each and every movement. As an opposing boss Selicy is incredibly mobile and really doubles down on getting up close and the giant icicle blades she sends out don't help.
  • (Elsa, Popo and Nana, Ice and Cold)
    • (Lord Fredrik, Frost, Ghiaccio)
  Selicy: Just chill, seriously.
  • (Teddie, Sans, Papyrus)
  • "Ice to meet you."
• Hazel only:
  • Hexwawan spells are basically Hazel's thing. Build up structures with her initial loadout, starting off with turrets she is able to shield up and increase the firepower of to gain some protection herself. She's even able to redirect her creations and enemies alike to get them where it benefits her. Alternatively, the Teardown loadout encourages her to do the inverse with the dismantling things like Walls and Blast Crystals to gain Mana and Spellpower for herself as she launches the fragmentation right at her foes. As a boss, she brings the best of both worlds to the table. Flamethrower turrets, rows of giant missiles, or giant trash compactors that crush anything in their wake.
  • (The Engineer, Torbjorn, Symmetra)
  • (Sentry Turrets)
  • "Hmm, let me fix your face!"
• Terra only:
  • Contrasting Saffron, Terra is a user of more traditional magic. Her name literally denotes her default element of manipulating the terrain for her benefit. As such, controlling the battlefield and the space in which her opponents move is crucial to her success. The trend continues with Pyro where she's setting everything on fire instead. As an opposing boss, as either Terra or Terrable, she really only utilizes the former loadout as per her namesake, but she's formidable nonetheless if one isn't quick but methodical in moving around. Anything less would play right into her hands.
  • (Earth and Rock)
  • (Terra Branford, Keyblade Wielder) .
  • "Dust do dust."
• Shiso only:
  • For Shiso, the weapons he has on hand are more important than the spellpower dished out. For Execute, his revolver is Cast from Money with half of what he currently has determining the final damage dealt, and he is returned some when dealing a killing blow. Thus, one must hoard as much currency as one possibly can while getting things that either soffen up his targets or hold them still for a good chance to administer the killing blow. Kunai, by contrast, is more straightforward. His focus her regards Slashfik spells, specifically the ones. And speaking of being straightforward, it's a pretty apt description for his fight as a boss. Not too crazy on throwing stuff out, demanding reaction time instead to pull through lest one's offensive options get greatly diminished by the amount of jams and shuffles he induces.
  • (Mccree, Rushuna, Erron Black)
  • (Jude the Dude, Yosemite Sam, Hol Horse)
  • (Neo, John Wick)
  • "I've been saving this one for you."
• Violette only:
  • Dance and battle are both one and the same with Violette, as both player and opponent. In Doubletime, she's a Dance Battler where different moves after playing her violin grant different effects. Most of the time, she's building herself up as a Glass Cannon as every instance of being inflicted Fragile gives her more and more Spell Power in return. Combined with the ability to also restore Mana, stack up Trinity, and even Shield herself and Violette can dish out. Aria, by contrast, is something of the opposite. Playing her violin here refills Mana but poisons herself and in every single battle she starts off poisoned but also heal whatever damage was initially dealt. Ergo, Violette is to stave off the poison at any opportunity which can do by resetting the timer everytime she plays but the Mana she generates should be used to end fights very quickly. Her fight as a boss takes the most liberties out of everyone, attacking to the flow of her own theme and at times forcing her opponents to dance to the music too. To say nothing of the pillars of light or the speakers she calls forth that really restrict any wriggle room.
  • (Kaori, Yurika)
  • "Lucky you! You get a free concert!"
• Shopkeeper only:
  • Thus far, she holds the title to having one of the most unusual of playstyles, revolving around money like Shiso but to an exaggerated degree. Her current amount of money dictates the maximum number of health she has with attacking and taking damage costing it. The upside to all of this is that Shopkeeper can access her own shop at any point with the spells and artifacts being free to buy. So what she may lack in durability she can certainly make up in offense. More than likely the very last character to be unlocked as doing so is only possible through defeating her as a boss. Now, as an opposing boss... good lord is she fond of screen filling attacks. Shopkeeper does not mess around. Picking a fight with her will certainly leave a lasting impression, figuratively and literally.
  • (Recette Lemongrass, Anna, Tressa Colzione)
    • (The Merchant, Crazy Dave)
  • (Kecleon Brothers)
  • "Check out my stuff!"

Edited by CrownlessMimic on Jul 1st 2020 at 2:29:52 AM

@RJ: I hope you don't miss this yet again.

@Crimson: What you have described Sauron reminds me of Shang Tsung, as he also served under an Evil Overlord in Shao Kahn and even betrayed him in order to obtain more power for himself.

For Reva, Kaede Honjou/Maple is another shield user, though only in the digital realms. Also, you misspelled "Hikari" as "Hiakri".

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jul 1st 2020 at 12:14:43 PM