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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#176426: Feb 20th 2021 at 10:51:59 AM

[up] Enemies with the Sailor Senshi due to what Wiseman did to Chibiusa to turn her into Black Lady was a combination of Mind Rape and Fake Memories.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Feb 20th 2021 at 10:52:29 AM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
AjWargo Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls! from Westfeild, New Jersey Since: Dec, 2014
Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls!
#176427: Feb 20th 2021 at 10:55:31 AM

Alright, let’s try this proposition again.

Chacha, Goddess of Red Riding Hood Replicas.

Reasoning: In this anime, which borrows from several fairy tales whenever possible, Chacha, the main character, takes motifs from Little Red Riding Hood in her appearance. To complete the reference, one of her friends, Riiya, can turn himself into a wolf pup at will.

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VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#176428: Feb 20th 2021 at 10:58:44 AM

[up][tup]

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
AjWargo Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls! from Westfeild, New Jersey Since: Dec, 2014
Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls!
#176429: Feb 20th 2021 at 11:24:05 AM

Thank you so much, Vengeful. Here’s the first draft. Any suggestions?

Chacha, Goddess of Red Riding Hood Replicas (Magical Princess)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chacha_akazukin_chacha_89712.jpg
Click here to see her Magical Princess form 
  • Intended House: Character Expies
  • [tups]:
  • Demigoddess, Intermediate Goddess as Magical Princess
  • Symbol: Her Princess Medallion
  • Theme: You Color My Feelings, Magical Princess, Holy Up! when transforming
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: Genki Girl, Princess Protagonist, Little Red Fighting Hood, Inept Mage, comes from a land that is a Fairy Tale Free-for-All, Magical Girl Warrior, often winds up making a Hurricane of Puns
  • Domains: Fairy Tales, Princesses, Magical Girls, Puns
  • Heralds: The other Eight Holy Warriors of Love, Courage, and Hope (Riiya, Shiine, Seravy, Dorothy, Yakko, Marine, Orin)
  • Allies: Ruby Rose
  • Enemies: B.B. Hood
  • Chacha was born as the heir to a brilliant kingdom, but had to be sent away when a demon known as Daimao and his army of evil invaded. Growing up under the care of Seravy, the greatest magician in the land, Chacha would find friends in Riiya, a boy who can turn into a wolf, and Shiine, the servant of Seravy's good friend Dorothy. When the three of them are together, Chacha can transform into a heroine called Magical Princess who, utilizing a bow, a sword, and a shield, was able to defeat Daimao and restore her parents, though the items needed for this were later sacrificed to prevent his army from invading again.
  • Determined to cause as much damage as possible to the GUAG, a collaboration between the various groups who oppose the Sailor Senshi saw them send every monster at their disposal to attack their headquarters. Slowly but surely, the monsters began to overwhelm the GUAG, and Cosmos, in an act of desperation, opened up a portal to a realm untouched by the Pantheon, where she encountered Seravy.
    • After learning of her plight, Seravy brought Chacha and her friends together and they arrived at the scene of the battle. Cosmos, using her powers, was able to perfectly recreate the three Magical Princess items, which allowed Chacha to transform, turning the tide of the battle and forcing the monsters to retreat. For this, Chacha and her friends were given legal permission to ascend, settling down in a series of temples based off their homes back in their home world.
  • Being based of the tale of Little Red Riding Hood, Chacha was quick to befriend the similarly inspired Ruby Rose, viewing her as a Cool Big Sis. Ruby personally notes that, as Magical Princess, Chacha has won many battles and defeated many monsters.
    • However, on the opposite side of the spectrum, Chacha encountered B.B. Hood, who wasn’t nearly as interested in being friends with her and, being the psychopath she is, attempted to shoot her with her machine guns. A quick transformation and fight later, and B.B. realized she’d have to be more careful when dealing with Chacha.

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SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#176430: Feb 20th 2021 at 11:24:06 AM

No-Thumbs Mode

Remilia and Flandre Scarlet, Goddesses of Neutral Vampires (Both: The Scarlet Sisters | Flandre: Sister of the Devil)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/61241a8d_4252_4f12_b017_cc13de48e5d9.jpeg
Remilia on the right, Flandre on the left

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018
I hate spoilers
#176431: Feb 20th 2021 at 11:26:05 AM

@Sukishima didn't he become good and help defeat Yhwach?

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KiriK King of the Monsters from across time and space Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
King of the Monsters
#176432: Feb 20th 2021 at 11:32:57 AM

Gonna try my proposal again because the last time I mentioned it got forgotten. @SailorVenus372 If the character gets approved for a proper write-up, he may also have a dynamic with the Chaos Kin, due to a deep-seated hatred of villains that have no goal except to spread chaos and destruction.

Without further ado, the proposal is Kuroki Kaze from Final Fantasy: Unlimited as the god of Summon Bigger Fish under... honestly no idea, maybe Unorthodox Combat?

Kaze is a walking Deus ex Machina with a signature weapon called the 'Magun' that uses bullets made of magic sand called 'Soil' which is actually crystallized life force/souls. By loading three different Soil charges into the Magun, he can fire it to summon various monsters that are all generally on par with walking apocalypses.

  • When he summoned Bismarck at a desert oasis, it destroyed all the enemies in a huge eruption of water - and also left with all the water in the oasis, drying it up.
  • His Ifrit summon destroyed a fragment of Omega that was powerful enough to be tearing apart reality with its mere presence, and saved a girl who was falling into Omega's grasp.
  • Atomos sucked an entire city into its black hole-esque eye, almost killing the other main characters in the process.
  • His ultimate summon, the Gun Dragon (which is claimed to be Omega itself in the dub, and is presumably the Unlimited incarnation of Bahamut), has to be specifically begged by the summoner not to destroy life before firing, whereas most of the other summons are accompanied by a command to attack.
In summary, he's a guy who has really powerful summons but can't mitigate the damage they cause, which ties into the aspect of Summon Bigger Fish where the 'bigger fish' isn't really under the control of the summoner - it just happens to be compliant for now.

"He's gearing up for war."
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#176433: Feb 20th 2021 at 11:41:48 AM

[up]I don't know. The times he used Summon is to beat the opposing forces who while threatening, are not the "Uber Threat" that would entitled to bring in a "bigger uber Threat" to challenge it. Atleast most of the time.

227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018
I hate spoilers
#176434: Feb 20th 2021 at 1:27:32 PM

I added a bit more to Edo.

Edo Phoenix, God of Memento MacGuffins (Aster Phoenix, The Demon)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/newedo.png

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Mattman_the_Storyteller Since: Aug, 2018
#176435: Feb 20th 2021 at 1:43:51 PM

@Chacha Red Riding Hood of the Blood Team can be a potential interaction.

Here are my first drafts for Alibaba and Finn. I'm open to suggestions.

Alibaba Saluja, God Love Revelation Epiphanies
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/171933.jpg
  • Rank: Lesser God, Intermediate God with his vessel
  • Theme Song: One Step Further
  • Symbol: His sword
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold, Having a fire based Djinn, Master Swordsman, Super-Reflexes, Warrior Prince, Manipulative Bastard
  • Domains: Fire, Royalty
  • Allies: Aladdin (Magi), Morgiana (his wife), Ren Hakuryuu, Ugo, Issei Hyodo, Natsu Dragneel, Senku Ishigami
  • Enemies: Ren Gyokuen, Quan Chi
  • Alibaba is third prince of Balbadd and the king's illegitimate son, who fled the city after a major disaster at the castle that he was responsible for. Joining Aladdin during his journey in the hopes of becoming rich through Dungeon Crawling, Alibaba would also free his future love interest Morgiana from slavery and eventually free Balbadd from his tyrannical half-brother's rule, establishing a republic before joining his friends in the fight against Al-Thamen.
  • He finally made his ascension after searching for a trope, which turned out to be Love Revelation Epiphany because once he learned about Morgiana's feelings for him, he began to see her in a new light and the two slowly started to become a romantic couple. His friends were overjoyed after hearing of journey to the pantheon. He also decided to wait after he got a girlfriend before his ascension. He was overjoyed when Morgiana accepted his proposal, and after their journey was over, finally get married.
  • Many were surprised to see him still alive after hearing he was "killed" by Hakuryuu. They were more shocked to find out how he survived, by successfully reconstituting himself into a form composed only of his own consciousness. Many praised his determination and willpower, especially Senku Ishigami, who was petrified for many years and managed to keep himself conscious until he finally freed himself.
Finn, God of Mooks Turning Good (FN-2187)
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  • Potential House: Betrayal Motivation
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: A Stormtrooper helmet with a bloody handprint, and his jacket.
  • Theme Music: TBA
  • Alignment: Lawful Neutral as a Stormtrooper, Neutral Good after his Mook–Face Turn
  • Portfolio: Adorkable, Almighty Janitor, The Atoner, Mook–Face Turn, Badass Normal, The Confidant, Chronic Hero Syndrome
  • Domains: Soldiers, Good
  • Allies:
  • Enemies:
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Count Dooku, Ben Solo
  • Finn was originally a Stormtrooper known only as "FN-2187" who fought for the First Order. After seeing the brutality of First Order in action when Kylo Ren orders the massacre of innocent civilians, FN-2187 betrays the First Order by helping their prisoner, Poe Dameron, escape to Jakku, receiving his name Finn in the process. After Poe seemingly perishes in a explosion, Finn teams up with Rey to escape the First Order so they can bring BB-8 and the map to Luke Skywalker to the Resistance. While initially wanting to get as far away from the First Order as possible, Finn eventually becomes a member of the Resistance fully after helping them and Rey destroy the Starkiller Base, becoming an Unlikely Hero in the process.
  • After helping Rey and the Resistance stop the Final Order and Palpatine, Finn was invited to become a god in the Pantheon, which he accepted after hearing Rey had ascended, alongside General Leia, Chewbacca, R2-D2, C-3PO, Han Solo, and countless other allies. While Finn is disappointed that Poe and BB-8 couldn't come with him, he is nevertheless happy to see Rey, Solo, and Leia in the Pantheon after so long. Of course, Finn is on guard immediately after finding out Ben Solo, aka Kylo Ren, was also in the Pantheon, considering that he did to his own father and also put him in a coma. He only tolerates Ben due to his parent's and Rey's support, though he makes it clear he's not forgetting any time soon.
  • One particular enemy Finn is extremely angry to see is Phasma, his former captain from the First Order. Their last battle ended in Phasma's death, Finn managing to overcome her while proudly declaring himself "Rebel Scum". The feeling is mutual on Phasma's end, who hates him for betraying the First Order (despite lowering the shields of the Starkiller base for him, Han, and Chewbacca) and potentially compromising her position.
    • One alternate timeline had Finn call her out on her hypocrisy, calling him a traitor when she sold out the First Order to save herself, in front of her own troops. Considering how the Stormtroopers actually find this believable despite this coming from Finn's mouth, it's clear they don't trust Phasma either. Phasma is currently head of the First Order now in the Pantheon, with Palpatine as her benefactor, though she still wants to kill Finn to prevent her from exposing her treachery.

227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018
I hate spoilers
#176436: Feb 20th 2021 at 1:47:54 PM

[up] I feel like Finn should be in Traitor Archetypes instead.

Edited by 227someguy on Feb 20th 2021 at 4:48:03 AM

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Mattman_the_Storyteller Since: Aug, 2018
#176437: Feb 20th 2021 at 2:20:17 PM

[up] Okay, I'll change that soon. For Edo, Otsuu believes highly in repaying debts too, so maybe you can add her?

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#176438: Feb 20th 2021 at 3:05:45 PM

@ Alibaba: Who in the pantheon is a Son of a Whore or royal bastard? Cartman is the former, but I can't imagine him and Alibaba getting along. Jon Snow technically isn't the latter, but he has a similar reveal

Any other interactions I should add?

Proto Man, God Of The Secretly Dying (Blues, DLN-000, Break Man, Bruce, Prometheus)

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Bass, God of Exceeded Expectations (Forte, SWN-001, Slasher, bASS)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bass_6.png

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#176439: Feb 20th 2021 at 3:21:15 PM

[up][tup] for both.

Proposal if the trope isn’t taken.

Death Phantom, Unholy Bringer of the Bad Future

Reasoning: He corrupted the Black Moon Clan into villains in the anime, crystal and manga, manipulated them and was the one responsible for the attack on Crystal Tokyo that prompted Sailor Pluto to send Chibiusa back in time to get help. Ultimately wanted to make the future even worse through the total and utter obliteration of all that exists and played The Man Behind the Man to manipulate the Black Moon Clan and played them like chess. He nearly succeeds in accomplishing his goals of universal omnicide.

[down] Oryx the Taken King replaced him.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Feb 20th 2021 at 3:36:45 AM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#176440: Feb 20th 2021 at 3:26:06 PM

[up]Isn't Death Phantom already in with Our Liches Are Different?

Edited by WhirlRX on Feb 20th 2021 at 6:28:55 AM

DoodSlayer136 Woagh from Pizza Tower (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Woagh
#176441: Feb 20th 2021 at 3:27:13 PM

Got someone for a trope:

The Biggy Man for Spell My Name With An S

Character: A giant, bloated mutant with duel chainsaws for hands that fights Rick and The Terror Mask throughout the series, usually boasting an unusually high intelligence.

Reason: Its actual name used to be "The Piggy Man", named after its Fat Bastard appearance, but a gaming magazine accidentally named it "The Biggy Man" thanks to translation issues, leading to fans calling him by The Biggy Man exclusively. It eventually became Ascended Fanon, with its return in the 2010 remake officially renaming him "The Biggy Man". Basically, his misspelt name overtook his official name.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#176442: Feb 20th 2021 at 3:45:06 PM

@ Death Phantom: [tup]

Couple of IRL figures in mind for later. What do you think of them?

  • John Wilkes Booth, Divine Killer With A Mentioned Surname (House of Killers and Assassins/Naming Identification, Neutral Evil)-while a historical villain, we do have Blackbeard up. JWB is the most infamous assassin in American history, having shot Abraham Lincoln(he's also about the only successful/would-be president killer to be famous before he became infamous). Most who tried or succeeded at killing the president followed the trope
  • Herbert George Wells, God of Premises Summarized In A Sentence: H.G Wells is one of the important figures in the history of science fiction, and the titles of his work use this trope. Such as "The Time Machine" (plot about a man with a time machine) and "The Invisible Man" (plot is about an Invisible Jerkass)

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Feb 20th 2021 at 10:45:43 PM

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#176443: Feb 20th 2021 at 3:52:10 PM

[up]Should we really ascend a real life murderer?

Edit@ Wait, we have plenty of those.

Edited by WhirlRX on Feb 20th 2021 at 6:53:09 AM

AjWargo Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls! from Westfeild, New Jersey Since: Dec, 2014
Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls!
#176444: Feb 20th 2021 at 3:53:55 PM

[up][up] Definite [tup] for Booth, as long as you include all the other famous individuals who attempted to assassinate a President as his Heralds, and those who actually qualify for that trope (Oswald and Ray come to mind) as his High Priests.

Edited by AjWargo on Feb 20th 2021 at 6:54:04 AM

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#176445: Feb 20th 2021 at 4:04:33 PM

Would James Earl Ray even be considered a candidate if someone suggested him instead of Booth?

Edited by WhirlRX on Feb 20th 2021 at 7:04:50 AM

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#176446: Feb 20th 2021 at 4:05:49 PM

I actually have a counterr-suggestion for Bad Future to also rework a really old and bad profile.

  • The Sentinels, Divine Heralds of the Bad Future
    • Reasoning: The original Days of Future Past story is pretty much the Trope Maker for Bad Future as it portrays the X-Men's future Earth ending under the control of the titular Sentinels who have not only began exterminating mutants but all superheroes/supervillains, the X-Men decide to straight-up rewrite history to prevent the rise of the Sentinels because the future's gotten bad enough with them overruling the world. The Sentinels stand front-and-center as the main cause for the Bad Future and they're pretty much one of the few villains bad enough to provoke a complete intentional retcon to avert their rule.

This would also free up Mecha-Mook, which the Sentinels don't really fit at large except in their wimpier portrayals.

Edited by VengefulBale on Feb 20th 2021 at 6:07:01 AM

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018
#176447: Feb 20th 2021 at 4:15:54 PM

[up][tup]

@Mattman The Storyteller, Alistair Theirin is the illegitimate son of King Maric.

@Sailor Venus 372, I mentioned this before but some vampiric allies for the Scarlet Sisters could be Arcueid Brunestud, Alucard (Castlevania), and Rachel Alucard. Also I think both individually count as Greater Goddesses.

Edited by AzureLegacy on Feb 20th 2021 at 7:17:48 AM

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#176448: Feb 20th 2021 at 4:17:17 PM

[up] ok.

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#176449: Feb 20th 2021 at 4:17:27 PM

[up][up][up] Eh, I prefer that over Death Phantom, so here's a [tup].

[up] Make sure you mention Vlad, Konrad and Mannfred as I said in a previous post regarding the Scarlet Sisters. Also, maybe something regarding Abhorash, another vampire whose main goal is to find worthy opponents to fight and drink their blood. Abhorash is the founder and leader of the Blood Dragons, a knightly order of vampires who desire to hone their martial skills and swordsmanship to find strong warriors and monsters and drink their blood so that one day, their bloodlust and need to drink blood be washed away. Maybe Abhorash would see Remillia and Flandre as good opponents to some extent and respect their strength, though he no longer has to drink blood.

Pokemon Contests are now becoming a trending topic and event in the Pantheon, which is further heralded by the ascension of two coordinators and one of Ash's best friends.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Feb 20th 2021 at 12:22:15 PM

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#176450: Feb 20th 2021 at 4:20:37 PM

Maybe Death Phantom could have Mind Manipulation? This fits him better as he always messed with peoples minds to get what he wanted. A few tropes he uses are Manipulative Bastard, The Corrupter, The Chessmaster, Hypnotic Eyes, Fake Memories, Mind Rape and More than Mind Control. All of which nearly lead to him accomplishing his goals. This is his modus operandi. He mostly relies on these more than he does force until the end of the arc.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Feb 20th 2021 at 8:11:39 AM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…

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