Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
Rules
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
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means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
Instructions and Tips
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
- Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
Divine Ranking System
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
Templates
Template for adding a new deity:
God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles:
Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles:
The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM
SuperWIKI1
BourbonDiscordia
from The Little Red Dot
Since: Feb, 2019
Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#143802: Aug 20th 2019 at 2:22:31 AM
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Yup, lots of shit happens here.
That is literally the most support I've ever received for anything ever in my time in this discussion. Thanks guys!
TPPR10
Shocking Gun!
from out of nowhere
Since: Aug, 2013
Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#143803: Aug 20th 2019 at 2:29:10 AM
What Noel lacks in chest area, she makes up with her guns. And thus a power vacuum for A-Cup Angst has been set. Might I have a suggestion for it? Maybe. But it depends.
I guess on trope changes, I suggested changing Yuji Sakai's trope to One Hero, Hold the Weaksauce. I cannot do much to rework him if needed, but I think it works better than his current trope.
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
SuperWIKI1
BourbonDiscordia
from The Little Red Dot
Since: Feb, 2019
Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#143804: Aug 20th 2019 at 2:45:43 AM
Does that still qualify him for the Main House? Given that the trope makes his role seem less...pivotal.
RokuAlhazared
The Emperor Of Darkness
Since: Jul, 2015
The Emperor Of Darkness
#143805: Aug 20th 2019 at 4:21:57 AM
Test run on Elsa Bloodstone.
Elsa Bloodstone, Goddess Of Enchanted Chokers
- Potential Houses:
- Lesser Goddess
- Symbol: Her Bloodgem Choker and Dual Rifles
- Alignment: Chaotic Good
- Portfolio: Abusive Parents, Action Girl, Badass Family, Bare Your Midriff, Prefers BFGs with Abnormal Ammo, Combat Pragmatist, Fiery Redhead, Fights Like a Normal, Lady Swears-A-Lot, Statuesque Stunner
- Domains: Hunters, Weaponry, British People
- Allies:
- Fellow Hunters: Dante Sparda, Nero, Teams RWBY and JNPR, Maya Fallegeros
- Other Allies: TBD
- Rivals: TBD
- Enemies:
- For Elsa Bloodstone, this was not how her day should end. Getting ascended to the Pantheon was easy enough, and she decided to relax before going out demon hunting. Too bad a demon attack had wrecked her tea time. While enjoying a nice Eastern blend in a tea shop, a demon had knocked Nero through a window, smashing into her table and destroying her tea. Big mistake. "You. Spilled. My. Tea." Cue her brandishing her dual rifles and entering in the fray. One valuable lesson was learned that day: never mess with Elsa Bloodstone's tea.
Edited by RokuAlhazared on Aug 20th 2019 at 4:24:40 AM
The One Who Crosses The Sky In Flames
SuperWIKI1
BourbonDiscordia
from The Little Red Dot
Since: Feb, 2019
Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#143806: Aug 20th 2019 at 4:28:49 AM
Possible House of Combat Clothing and Magical Items.
Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:29:54 PM
Retired effective March 1, 2022
nightelf37
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story')
Since: Jul, 2010
Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#143807: Aug 20th 2019 at 5:14:33 AM
Rename it to something more generic like Enchanted Trinkets'.
I’m here to do something
#143808: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:38:19 AM
Probably make a bio for her because it might help make others suggestions for her. She is a monster hunter, right? She might interact with those kinds of hunters like those who are in Hunters.
SuperWIKI1
BourbonDiscordia
from The Little Red Dot
Since: Feb, 2019
Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#143809: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:08:54 AM
First draft of my Grand Admiral Thrawn rework. How do I handle his rivalry with Creed now that he serves as Thrawn's high priest? Also, how do I handle his relations with the original Star Wars deities (i.e. Luke, Han, etc)
Suggestions, please.
Prototype mode
Mitth'raw'nuorodo, God of Military Geniuses (Thrawn of the House of Nuruodo of the Mitth Family, Thrawn, Grand Admiral Thrawnformerly )- Returning To: Planning and Tactics and Strategies
- Demigod (though his military prowess can stump even Overdeities)
- Symbol: A pair of red glowing eyes on a blue background, or the stylized Chimaera engraved on the ventral hull of his Star Destroyer
- Theme Music: "Thrawn's Arrival", "Thrawn's Web", "Thrawn's True Face"
- Alignment: Lawful Evil to the Rebellion and those who oppose the Empire, Lawful Good to his subordinates, actually Lawful Neutral with his participation in the Empire as a Necessary Evil
- Portfolio: Very Respectful Even to Enemies, Is Exceedingly Good at Analyzing People, Badass in Charge, Prioritizes Function over Form, The Chessmaster, Crazy-Prepared, Falsely Exiled By His Own People, Constantly Embarrasses Inept Imperials Under His Command, A Manipulative Strategist, One of The Few Reasonable People in the Empire, A Close Friend to Eli Vanto, Deliberately Allows Military Losses to Ensure A Later Victory, Can Improvise When Necessary
- Domains: Art, Law, Nobility, Perfection, Strategy, Treason, War
- Superior(s): George Lucas (IRL), Emperor Palpatine (in-universe), Melkor (GUAE)
- Heralds: Lieutenant Commander Eli Vanto and his loyal bodyguard Rukh. By association, the crew of the Chimaera, Gilad Pellaeon and members of the Chiss Ascendancy (Admiral Ar'alani especially) can be counted.
- High Priest: Lord Castellan Creed (his former Worthy Opponent)
- Followers: The Silverberg family and Lucretia Merces, Narsus
- Allies:
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Orson Krennic, Count Dooku, General Grievous, Nute Gunray, Wat Tambor (the Separatists), M. Bison, Megatron, Starscream, Frieza, Euron Greyjoy, Griffith, Johan Liebert, Muruta Azrael, Roose Bolton
- Rivals: James T. Kirk, Robin, Petyr Baelish, Lord Varys, Treize Khushrenada, The Combine, Gihren Zabi
- Friendly Rivals: Char Aznable, Victor von Doom
- Enemies:
- All good-aligned Star Wars deities* : The Crew of the Ghost (non-ascended), Ahsoka Tano, Rogue One, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Leia Organa, Chewbacca, Obi-Wan Kenobi, C-3PO and R2-D2, Admiral Ackbar, Mace Windu, Darth Maul
- Others: Bright Noa, Spock, The Crimson Raiders, Honor Harrington, Nick Fury, Liara T'soni, Batman, Sherlock Holmes, the entire GUAG Combat Division and GUAG Robot War Division (even if they do respect his talent)
- Respects: The House of Craft and Theater, Tzeentch, Genghis Khan, Leonardo da Vinci, Vincent Van Gogh
- Respected by: Every military officer in the Pantheon (even if they don't like him)
- Fears: Any giant sea creature that resembles a Space Whale, and to a certain extent destroyer deities more potent than the Death Star (Unicron, Galactus, Deathwing, Evolt/Kamen Rider Evol)
- Opposes: Anyone who does not appreciate art, Bask Om, Yuuki Terumi, Wyald, Biff Tannen, The Flood, Zapp Brannigan, and the Grand United Alliance of Destruction
- Wary Of: Yomiko Readman
- Annoyed By: Jar Jar Binks, The Ginyu Force
- Complicated Relationship: Darth Vader
- Ambiguous Relationship: Havelock Vetinari, Cobra Commander
- Weapon of Choice: The Imperial Missile Boat
- Mitth'raw'nuruodo, better known by his core name Thrawn, is a Chiss from the Unknown Regions, exiled by his people to known space for as of yet unrevealed reasons, and was discovered by the Galactic Empire soon after, and pledged his allegiance to the Emperor on the grounds of providing information on an unknown threat in the Unknown Regions. This was in truth a fabrication in order to implant Thrawn in the known galaxy's ruling government and determine if they would be a useful ally. Amid the mass opposition of the Empire to non-human staff, Thrawn rapidly rose through the ranks, eventually getting a promotion to Grand Admiral for his exemplary performance at the Battle of Batonn as well as the position of commander of the Imperial Seventh Fleet.
- Soon after, he was drafted by Governor of Lothal Arihnda Pryce to assist in combatting the rebel cells of Lothal, Phoenix Squadron. Winning countless victories against them, this streak ended in a pivotal Rebellion attack on Lothal to destroy the TIE Defender production facility there and liberate the planet. Jedi Ezra Bridger summoned purrgils (space whales which traverse hyperspace) which destroyed the blockade above the planet and dragged Thrawn's fleet of Star Destroyers into hyperspace, with them in it. That was the last of Grand Admiral Thrawn...or so the galaxy thought.
- During a battle between the Grand United Alliance of Good and Grand United Alliance of Evil to gain control of a supply line leading to an important GUAE stronghold, the combined forces of Rebellion and Resistance fleet seemed to be winning against the devastated fleet (the nearby fleet of Rewloolas led by Char Aznable proved unavailable). Suddenly, the Chimaera materialized from hyperspace purrgil-free, flanked by several Resurgent-classes, blindsiding the GUAG fleet. Thrawn shrewdly claimed that Ezra had been overpowered and was being held hostage aboard the ship, and that surrender was the only optionnote . The front fleet surrendered in their surprise at Thrawn's re-emergence and it was a resounding victory for the GUAE Conquest Army.
- It was revealed that Thrawn's surprise ascension was at the Emperor's behest, requiring someone loyal to him to lead the GUAE's space fleet, especially after his rather public falling out with Lord Vader. Most people are scratching their heads at this, given that Palpatine was getting fed up with Thrawn's dual loyalties to the Empire and the Ascendancy. Despite having serious misgivings, considering 'a servant with dual loyalties is no servant at all', Palpatine had Thrawn installed as the commander of the Conquest Army's space fleet with Melkor's blessing.
- Some people just attribute Thrawn's analytical skills to his Chiss ethnicity, but this cannot be farther from the truth. Thrawn's own people were befuddled by his ability to collect detailed tactical knowledge from insignificant or obscure detail. Thrawn seeks to perfect the art of war* . He believes that in order to defeat a worthy opponent, one must know the opponent in every aspect, including their history, philosophy and culture. He was able to discern the identity of a disguised Hera Syndulla simply from studying the Kalikori she was holding and the Syndulla family portrait. Whatever you do, do not threaten to destroy beautiful artwork in front of him. It's one of the few ways you can openly piss him off, something that NOBODY wants to see. He regularly visits the House of Craft's Merveilleux Morpho Atelier and the House of Theater and makes monetary contributions whenever he can.
- Besides this, there are many other aspects to Thrawn's military pedigree and strategic doctrine, such as:
- Creating the right tools for the job. Thrawn disapproved of the shoddy craftsmanship of the tools used by the Empire to maintain order, especially the basic TIE fighter. It was good against civilian craft and pacifying disobedient worlds, but were inadequate for engaging nimble rebel starfighters. To this end, he had a new fighter specially commissioned for this purpose: the TIE/D Defender. This ship had a hyperdrive and shields, and scored strings of victories against the Rebellion as part of an elite rebel hunting strike force in the Seventh Fleet. In Legends, Thrawn also designed the Imperial Missile Boat, which used warheads as standard armament. It is currently stored in the Treasury, having been judged as the strongest flying vehicle in the Pantheon. Thrawn has only ever fished it out once to take down an enemy.
- Playing the Long Game. Thrawn has a tendency to apply the Xanatos Gambit and allow for a defeat in order to secure a later victory. While many military leaders can excel at this, Thrawn stands out from others displaying these tropes as taking an extreme risk in an Empire where failure, especially intentional failure is looked down on. Nevertheless, Thrawn proved naysayers wrong again and again like when he allowed rebel spy Fulcrum (Agent Kallus) to continue his subterfuge undisturbed to discover Phoenix Squadron's base on Atollon and utterly decimate the Squadron to dissolution. This did lead to his demise in Legends continuity, when his habit of monitoring the Noghri led to his assassination by his disillusioned bodyguard of the same species when he discovered that Thrawn was keeping his people in poor health so they would forever be indebted to the Empire. But that isn't even canon anymore.
- The Boring, but Practical approach. Much of the Empire's military strategy was derived from Imperial Communiqué #001044.92v, the Tarkin Doctrine, which emphasised the philosophy of ruling through fear of force, and applying swift and grand judgement on those who resisted the Empire. This was best exemplified in the Emperor's masterstroke, the Death Star. Thrawn preferred using mundane but more utilitarian strategy against his opponents, and disapproved of the Death Star simply because he considered it a waste of time and resources and consolidated far too much of the Empire's resources, making it a prime target of the Rebellion. Needless to say, he was proven right since the rebels stole the plans for the battle station and promptly exploited that one exhaust port to destroy it. And then the Emperor just built another one. Starkiller Base is at least more acceptable to Thrawn given that it was built into a planet rather than being built from scratch, and was treated as more of a side project rather than the bedrock of the First Order's plans.
- NOT having his subordinates killed if they failed. He was a Reasonable Authority Figure who understood that sometimes, failure was inevitable. He never gave his subordinates any sort of punishment aside from a stern reprimand if it was a particularly big blunder, compared to Darth Vader who was used to force-choking Imperial officers for even the most minor of transgressions. Most mooks in the Grand United Alliance of Evil who work for bad bosses and know better often clamour for a spot on his ship just to escape the mental abuse.
- It should be noted that Thrawn is not omniscient. If something totally unexpected comes up, he can think up a plan on the fly, but do not expect him to pull off a miracle victory, like when the purrgils were summoned by Ezra.
- Over time, Thrawn began having nagging thoughts in the back of his mind. He was disturbed by the random visions he had in his head of an alternate life with subtle differences from the one he led currently. This went on for a few weeks until the strain he could no longer bear without visible side-effects, and he checked into the House of Health and Diseases. It was revealed to him that the visions he was experiencing were indeed the life he had once led, as a Grand Admiral leading the remnants of a fallen Empire to near victory against the New Republic. Yet this was retconned with the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney, and their decision to wipe the slate clean in preparation for the sequel trilogy. Thrawn bears no ill will towards George Lucas, simply for the reason that he isn't Thrawn's creator: Timothy Zahn is.
- On the topic of the sequel trilogy, he is pleased that Imperial remnants took note of his knowledge of the Unknown Regions to establish the First Order. Their Special Forces TIE Fighter and TIE Silencer clearly took notes from his TIE Defender, as did their philosophy of seeing their soldiers as valuable assets as opposed to cannon fodder like their predecessors. First Order-generation officers in the GUAE see Thrawn as a saviour for giving them a place to develop and strengthen away from the prying eyes of the New Republic and the Resistance. Even if they are disdainful of the Admiral, they don't show it because he's competent.
- Given his objective and analytical standpoint, he has no interest in personal glory, only results, unlike most other Imperial officers who are mostly interested in gaining brownie points with the Emperor and attaining personal glory. The establishment in the GUAE is not happy at Thrawn's utter effectiveness since it hinders their chance at popularity and seek to dethrone Thrawn from his position as commander of the GUAE fleet. Likewise, Thrawn has no tolerance for fools, bullies and the arrogant, and wastes no opportunity to belittle or humiliate them should their hubris prove too detrimental to the success of the GUAE.
- If Thrawn does have an Achilles' Heel, it's his inexperience with politics. Political manipulation is common in The Empire, with many high-ranking officers having to pull strings to get where they were. As a result, he fails to grasp the finesse of how to curry favour from his superiors and his colleague's support. Not that he cares anyway. Havelock Vetinari, known for never having been seen in the same room as Thrawn before, suggested he actually do something about it before it irreparably damaged his career. Thrawn, ever the risk taker, then sought an alliance with Tywin Lannister, the only politician Vetinari knew of that was of Thrawn's line of thinking (the rest of the Politicians sub-house is either Good, Ambiguously Evil or Lawful Stupid). Tywin, in an uncharacteristically courteous move assented to it, seeing Thrawn as an officer he could mould into the perfect weapon to use against his enemies. But then Thrawn dropped this bombshell:
Thrawn: "Lord Tywin, I am not an Unwitting Pawn, having used them myself. I can help you against your enemies, but it seems that you are not as capable as you might be. A good military leader must be A Father to His Men, and you are hardly a father to your own pride of lions. You have thought me much about how to handle the hierarchy and I thank you for that. But I accept my soldiers' imperfections and work to fix them. Your method of ignoring your children's plight has moulded them into the people they are today. Jaime? A morally apathetic yet not dishonourable man. Cersei? A Complete Monster who acts like a petulant child waiting for a sweet, throwing a tantrum when she is refused. Tyrion? You denied him an opportunity to prove himself, making him a whore-monger and blaming him for it. Why, only Daenerys was able to see him as a great man. And your first act upon entering the Pantheon is to disown the three of them. And that, Lord Tywin, is why I despise inner-fighting and politics in my Empire, because this happens."
- Much has transpired since his appointment to the command post of the GUAE Conquest Army's space fleet. Thrawn has to contend with a much diversified force of villains, many who don't like him. He has managed to push through some initiatives in the midst of the chaos, such as transferring his flag to a new Resurgent-class Star Destroyer and funding several project by like-minded individuals (the near bottomless pockets of colleagues like Mr. Burns may have something to do with it. Darth Vader has given him command of the 501st Legion forces serving the GUAE, while he helms those who serve in the House of Defense. Thrawn may know of Vader's true allegiance (and identity) but chooses not to say anything. Then there's the trouble of the former Separatists who the Emperor essentially forced into serving him. He doesn't seem to pay them much attention unless the situation calls for it, but he and Dooku do have a tenuous alliance given their similar approaches to war, and can understand Thrawn's appreciation for art.
- Thrawn also has to contend with harbouring many other commanders in the Grand United Alliance of Evil on his ship. Some he likes, some he tolerates but most he grits his teeth at attempting to maintain his composure. The Frieza Force have been quite a difficulty for them, since when they're around and fighting, stuff tends to go boom. The fact that Planet Earth was destroyed at least four times in their world is saying something. Frieza hates Thrawn with a passion because he thinks he deserves to lead the GUAE's space fleet, his good performance be damned, but his obsession with the Dragon Balls and propensity for collateral damage even when he's not trying has long sidelined him from favour. Thrawn, in a gesture of diplomacy (and to ensure the crew's safety) has had a special room constructed aboard the Chimaera for Frieza to use for training when he is on the ship. Thrawn finds the Ginyu Force a pain with them constantly doing fighting poses in an environment where the act would be ridiculous. On his bridge no less. And Captain Ginyu shows no remorse. Thrawn has far better relations with Frieza's more balanced brother Cooler, wondering why he wasn't put in charge of the Frieza Force due to Frieza's omnicidal personality.
- He commands a certain respect for his opposite number, James T. Kirk, in the GUAG space fleet, despite both of them being completely opposite in personality and tactical philosophy.
- One asks of his reaction to the Death Star's destruction. The look on his face said it all: I told you so. Has taken the initiative to inform Director Krennic of ways to improve the Death Star's administration, but the Director brushed him off, seeing him as one of Tarkin's lapdogs who had the audacity to siphon off funds for Project Stardust for his stupid TIE Defender programme when in reality it was the other way round. Thrawn doesn't have any dislike for Krennic, for he reserves most of that disdain for the battle station itself, despite it now being a Dominion and functionally immortal in its own way. Krennic sneers that with the First Order's new and advanced starfighters, Thrawn's Defenders are obsolete. He neglected to mention that said starfighters were based on the TIE Defender.
- There are hints that he is disdainful of the House of War - as one who is generally reserved and very good at the strategic side of war, he stands out among the screaming hordes of fighters. It's hard to tell - he hasn't confided in anyone.
- Thrawn is here partly because of his relationship to Sherlock Holmes. Combined with the various other people who contributed to him, this heritage allows him to practice an almost obscene version of psychoanalysis on people and cultures by studying their artwork, using it to identify weaknesses in their thinking or perception patterns, and then exploiting said weaknesses in devastating ways. He's got a bit of the Information Age in him.
- Is very careful to stay on Yomiko's good side, and although he was initially unfamiliar with books that had pages, he got used to them. A lot of the bits of data he picks up seem trivial, but he pieces them together alarmingly fast.
- Still has a beef with his rival in military tactics, Ursarkar E. Creed for wiping off the 501st. Supposedly with 100 Baneblades from Kaurava.
- As of his new canon background, it appears that his true loyalty is first and foremost to the Chiss Ascendancy, and his true motivation is to protect his people from unknown, horrifying threats. He has joined with the Empire, and by extension the GUAE, because he considers them a unified force and a potential ally (or an alternate target) for dealing with the dangers that threaten his people.
- He is especially wary of especially dangerous and wicked threats in the Pantheon beyond the GUAE such as the GUAD and the Flood for this reason, and openly opposes them. Considering that virtually everyone in the Pantheon, good or evil, despises these entities for one reason or another, nobody is complaining.
- Also present in the houses of Tactics and Strategies.
RokuAlhazared
The Emperor Of Darkness
Since: Jul, 2015
The Emperor Of Darkness
#143810: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:12:45 AM
Cassie's file is up. Gonna work on Hayabusa or Ryu next.
The One Who Crosses The Sky In Flames
powerofone65
Since: Jun, 2015
#143811: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:16:14 AM
I've just realised that it's surprising none of the Grand Alliances are trying to gain control of the Pantheon through Time Travel.
nightelf37
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story')
Since: Jul, 2010
Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#143812: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:16:52 AM
for Thrawn.
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There really isn't anyone here who knows Battle Realms that well, is there? Well, does anyone have a better pick for Big First Choice? I'd love to hear it.
Which Sengoku-era deities would side with which Kenji? Perhaps I could add such content were I familiar with the likes of them.
Kenji Oja, God of the Big First Choice (The Serpent's Son, Little Dragon, Lord Serpent or Lord Dragon)
- Potential House: Gaming Narratives
- s: -1 (Siegfried1337)
- Lesser God, Dragon!Kenji might reach Intermediate levels
- Symbol: The Serpent Orb
- Theme Song: Serpent Attack as Serpent!Kenji, Dragon Warrior as Dragon!Kenji
- Alignment: Neutral Evil (if he takes the Serpent Path) or Neutral Good (if he takes the Dragon path)
- Portfolio: Critical Hit, Campaign-Exclusive, Lightning Bruiser, Sword and Gun, Took a Level in Badass, Unexpected Successor, Dragons Up the Yin Yang
- Serpent Path only: Bad Boss, Blood Knight, The Butcher, Evil Is Petty, In the Blood, Villain Protagonist, Walking Shirtless Scene, Yakuza-esque Appearance
- Dragon Path only: Easily Forgiven, I Am Not My Father, Samurai, 11th-Hour Superpower
- Domain(s): Clans, Choices, Good or Evil
- Heralds:
- Followers: Agent Craig Willmore, Kazuki Takemura, Denam Pavel, Trestkon, Michael Tapp, Zheng, Jack Mower
- Allies: The Commander (depending on their current allegiance)
- Dragon!Kenji: Corrin
- Enemies: Each other and each other's allies, Heartless-summoners
- Sometimes, at some point in a game, you're required to make an important choice. This choice can affect a lot of things, from as little as available upgrades for the entire game, or even what storyline you'll take (requiring a replay to see it all). Kenji Oja, former exile from the Serpent Clan, upon returning to the lands from where he was born, was faced with an important choice; in the midst of bandits raiding a village, who should he side with?
- The Kenji who helps the bandits would rebuild the Serpent Clan under a tyrannical fist. The Kenji who helps the villagers would start anew as the benevolent Dragon Clan. Since both paths are irreconcilable with one another to ascend as a single person, two Kenjis were ascended as separate entities instead, and both immediately came to blows, disgusted at the other's choice (and disbelief from Serpent!Kenji after the revelation that the Serpent Orb's power and the Dragon are real after all). They were shortly separated by the Court, who had ascended them in the first place.
- Applies to both Kenjis:
- Their temples take the form of Serpentholm, remade in their respective images, and facing in opposite directions so as to minimize immediate clashes, mostly instigated by Serpent!Kenji.
- And supporting the Kenjis as their Heralds are their Zen Masters, essentially hero units. While both Shinja and Otomo both served both Kenjis, their ultimate allegiances brought the former to Serpent!Kenji and the latter to Dragon!Kenji. The latter Kenji was glad, given that Otomo dies in both paths, and now they're reunited.
- Naturally, given their dispositions, Serpent!Kenji joined the GUAE while Dragon!Kenji joined the GUAG. Both Melkor and Cosmos were pleased with their latest additions to their ranks.
- The Dragon Clan generally disdain firearms (though still use rockets) while the Serpent Clan appreciate and perfect their use. That said, even Dragon!Kenji is not above using them, and can learn to appreciate allies who use such weapons.
- should I explain how different the mechanics are in their game compared to others like those in Blizzard Entertainment?
- If there's one thing both Kenjis have in common, it's despisal for creatures born from darkness thanks to their experiences with the Nightvol.
- Exclusive to Serpent!Kenji:
- Having a necromancer among his Zen Masters thanks to Shinja, he has no issues working with those who can raise the dead to achieve his goals.
- When working alongside the Commander, even if it's proven really effective, he's annoyed whenever the Commander employs him as a damage sponge for the Ronin's Blood Bond (it transfers half the damage a Ronin takes to those they bond with) and keep Fan Geisha around to keep him healthy. It's a very effective strategy, sure, but that means sitting out of the fight.
- Exclusive to Dragon!Kenji:
- Corrin gets along with him, having had to make a similar big choice, except it was between families who both love them and are good people to certain degrees (even if one family was under an evil king who might've been all but a puppet by this point), and they also had the chance for a third option. Of course, Corrin also shows contempt for Serpent!Kenji due to his cruelty.
- His potential after unlocking his Ki holds so much light that he poses a great threat to dark entities with weakness to light has marked him as a threat to such deities or those who employ such creatures like Xehanort and Mr. Scratch.
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Joshua, God of Greater Beings In Mortal Guises (Yoshiya Kiryu, The Composer, Prissy Kid, Pretty Boy, J, Petit Prince, J-Dawg, Josh-Josh, Pink, Giggles)
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- Greater God, but his RG/UG form is that of a Lesser God
- Symbol: His cell phone
- Theme Song: Calling
- Alignment: True Neutral at first with an Evil leaning, Neutral Good after development
- Portfolio: Tough, Effeminate Men, Has An Eye For The Brooding Anti-Hero Kind, Ambiguously Gay, Uses His Cellphone To Drop Objects From The Sky Or Cast Down Beams Of Light, Deadpan Snarker, Insufferable Genius, Physical God, Lonely at the Top, Being The Composer Is Hard, Authority Equals Asskicking, Victorious Antagonist, tries to corrupt Neku but ends up being "purified" by him instead, Not-So-Easily Forgiven, Restored My Faith in Humanity, Smug Smiler, Took a Level in Kindness
- Domains: Death, Disguise, Holiness, Tokyo (or specifically, Shibuya)
- Herald: Sanae Hanekoma, The Producer, and is actually of higher rank than Joshua. However, he prefers not to have that much attention, which is why he isn't the representative deity.
- High Priest: Peco
- Followers: Mokona, The Rainbow Faces, Fizban/Paladine, The Celestial, Luna/Althena
- Allies: Neku Sakuraba, Shiki Misaki, Beat, Rhyme, Sora, Riku, Oerba Dia Vanille, Kaworu Nagisa
- Enemies: Master Xehanort and his cohorts, YHVH
- Respected by: Crow
- Opposed By: Sho Minamimoto
- Rival (one-sided): Aslan
- When Neku first met Joshua, it was during his second Reaper's Game where Shiki became his entry fee, requiring him to find a new partner. He was like Neku, but encouraged his isolationism, which Neku resisted since by that time, he's been learning to open up to people thanks to Shiki. There was also the fact that Joshua might've been the reason he was in the Reaper's Game in the first place by killing him. Despite that, Joshua has come to think of Neku as a friend.
- The truth turns out to be a lot more complicated than that. He's actually the Composer, who orchestrates the Reaper's Game in the first place, and he planned on Shibuya's destruction because he thought it was losing its Imagination and wanted it destroyed before its influence could poison the rest of the world. His Game Master Kitaniji was against the idea, so the two played a Game to determine the district's fate. And Neku was Joshua's Proxy, meant to represent the worst of Shibuya to validate its destruction. However, his time spent with Neku, who changed almost completely for the better over the course of three Reaper's Games, ultimately convinced him to spare the city; if even the worst can improve, maybe it isn't hopeless for Shibuya to do the same.
- Joshua has been in the Pantheon for a long time now, despite having no trope to his name (although he could've been someone's follower/high priest for awhile), and he had observed the ascensions of Neku and Beat, but never made an appearance until shortly after the Great Upheaval. He had distracted himself by playing Tin Pin Slammer in an alternate universe, which he had visited before for most of Neku's third week in the UG playing the Reaper's Game a third time before Hanekoma called him back. After satisfying his boredom, he returned to the Pantheon, and soon found a trope for his own: God Was My Co-Pilot.
- Joshua is usually found on the mortal plane, observing mortals from a distance. Whenever Neku and Beat make trips down to the mortal realm to spend time with Shiki and Rhyme (before their own ascensions to the Pantheon), Joshua keeps his distance, but still watches. He wanted to join them as Neku's friend, but never did, at least until Sora convinced him to.
- It was thanks to him that Rhyme eventually ascended, by channeling her dreams.
- He's a rather annoying person to be around, but is still rather smart, to the point where he can keep up with Minamimoto's rambling.
- Considers Aslan to be something of a rival, though the latter never seems to notice.
- Ever since returning the Pantheon, Sho Minamimoto has once again started making attempts on Joshua's life. He's more interested in being the Composer than taking his position in the Pantheon, however. CRUNCH! He'll add God Was My Co-Pilot to the heap. No attempts were successful as of yet. He's rather amused by these attempts, over all.
- Is in direct opposition of Master Xehanort and his cohorts for the Heartless destroying his and his friends' world sometime after the whole Reaper's Game business. Joshua saved what he could of them by bringing the remnants of their dreams to Traverse Town when it appeared before him and used Rhyme's dream to open the portal into it. That was where he met and befriended Sora and Riku.
- Is perfectly alright with wearing women's clothing.
- Shio Ramen is his preferred form of tribute.
- Only a select few in the Pantheon have seen Joshua in his full Composer form. Even Sora and Riku only got a glimpse at his wings. Minamimoto may have seen it, but both refuse to comment on the matter.
- Despite his godlike powers, he too was a victim of the Friendship Asylum. Neku, Rhyme and Beat were able to save Joshua from the asylum, but not without a corrupted Riku being able to torture Joshua with his magical feathers. The resulting wounds would require Black Jack to operate on Joshua to save his life.
- Has the respect of Crow of all gods for his victory in deciding on the fate of Shibuya and using the hero Neku as a pawn for accomplishing that plan. Sure, he ultimately decided to spare the city when his original plan was to destroy it, but that's not that much different from Crow's own change of mind when it came to his plans.
Edited by nightelf37 on Aug 21st 2019 at 1:19:57 AM
TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
WhirlRX
Since: Jan, 2015
#143813: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:26:51 AM
Roku@Why are you mentioning a self page here?
Maybe because the pantheon doesn't know which time travel rules they follow?
In fact, which time travel do we follow?
fasoman1996
Google "big ears"
from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland)
Since: Dec, 2014
Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#143814: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:31:03 AM
Yes.
Guess the Time Police does a good job at keeping everything in order
Uni cat
TPPR10
Shocking Gun!
from out of nowhere
Since: Aug, 2013
Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#143815: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:34:33 AM
@Super Wiki: I... honestly, I have no clue. I never followed Main House that closely.
Grievous, I guess.
Grievous, God of Frontline Military Leaders (General Grievous, Qymaen jai Sheelal(?), The Knight Slayer, Space General)
- Intermediate God
- Symbol: His mask/face
- Theme Song: General Grievous's Theme
- Alignment: Neutral Evil with fits of rage
- Portfolio: Cyborg, Multi-Armed and Dangerous, Hero Killer, Highly-Active General And A Really Wasteful One At That, Badass Transplant, Coughing, Large Ham, Hair-Trigger Temper
- Domains: Cyborgs, Villains, Swords, Arms
- Allies: Count Dooku, Emperor Palpatine, Ultron, Nerissa, Mistral, Gigan, Wat Tambor
- Enemies: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ahsoka Tano, Yoda, Luke Skywalker Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
- Bastard Understudy to: Sheev Palpatine
- Heralds: MagnaGuards (personal bodyguards)
- Originally a Kaleesh warlord, Grievous was the leader of Separatist Alliance's Droid Army and one of their greatest warriors, especially once he decided to let his body to be turned into a cyborg to improve his fighting abilities to match even those of the Jedi. Even though he might be a general, he spends a lot of his time doing his own kills.
- Once he ascended into the Pantheon, GUAE did their best to make sure that Grievous would get back into shape from his barely active self he had become at the end of the war. They were mostly successful, but he does tend to cough quite a bit.
- In a lot of sense, Grievous is what Anakin would become in the future. Grievous is rather glad that based on how things are in the Pantheon now, he is against Darth Vader rather than with him.
- Is known as a notorious Hero Killer, having slain multiple Jedis in his life. Barbatos Goetia seem to have quite a bit of respect to the cyborg.
- While he is easily angered, one thing what angers him the most is calling him a mere droid. He is much more than that and he is ready to proof it.
- There are some rumours that Grievous might not have been as bad as most people think he was. Some people claim that he was in the past a Proud Warrior Race Guy who became a Fallen Hero after the death of his loved one and joined the Separatist Alliance to help his people, before one "incident" where his ship exploded what forced him to be turned into a cyborg, during which he was turned into the sadistic monster he is known now. As it turned out, this was the case; or rather, it was the case. As it stands now, Grievous was always cold-blooded killer who turned himself into a cyborg since he wanted to become the strongest warrior in the galaxy.
- Grievous used to be God of Heavily Damaged Villains due of the above background, but since that past of Grievous in now invalid, he had to find a new position.
- Might have a sister of sort. He has hard time really saying anything on the subject.
- Was challenged by Gilgamesh in a battle once. Reportedly both of them lost a weapon to another. Well, the weapon did make a fine addition to his collection.
- As a wielder of 4 lightsabers, the GUAE often wants Grievous to take frontline combat duty as the Sith are notoriously fickle at being in combat. Sadly, Grievous has his own ideas of how to combat too, having been taught by Dooku to use psychology to his advantage. He's not some mere Jedi fighting at the front. He's a planner and an armchair general too, and thus usually attacks when he can use intimidation to his advantage or to finish off worthy opponents.
- They say that Grand Admiral Thrawn acquired his mask some time after his death. How legitimate it is now is hard to tell, but he wants it back of her does still have it.
- Probably isn't competing with Jack Atlas with his Wheel Bike.
Edited by TPPR10 on Aug 20th 2019 at 8:37:02 PM
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
#143816: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:37:26 AM
@Joshua: Maybe some interaction with Bruce Nolan.
Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
mariovsonic999
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#143817: Aug 20th 2019 at 11:21:27 AM
Any living stars?
The Lumas, Divine Sentient Stars (Chiko)
Left to Right: Yelow Luma, Polari, Apricot Luma, Co-Star Luma and Green Luma
Lubba
- Potential House: Planetary And Celestial
- Lesser Gods
- Symbol: The Star Bits
- Theme Song: Luma
- Alignment: Neutral Good
- Portfolio: Big Eater, Comes in different colors, Happily Adopted, Sacrifice themselves in order to save the Galaxy but came back afterwards, Ridiculously Cute Critter, Voluntary Shapeshifting
- Domains: Stars, Galaxies, Planets, Families, Children, Space
- Notable Members: Co-Star Luma, Comet Tico, Polari, Lumalee, Baby Luma/Apricot Luma
- Heralds: Twink and the Star Kids
- Allies:
- Enemies: Bowser, Bowser Jr., The Koopalings, Sirius
- The Lumas are star-like beings that reside in the Cosmet Observatory under the care of Rosalina. Lumas are destined to transform into various space related objects, raging from comets, planets and even entire Galaxies but usually they can reform after doing so.
- In the past, most Lumas resided in Rosalina's temple but they grew increasingly curious about the Pantheon and after a bit "persuation", Rosalina accepted to make them proper deities. Given that they are a race of Sentient Stars, the Court of Gods saw fit to make them the holders of said title but considering that mentally the Lumas are children, they took extra caution when building their temple and decided to create a playground so Lumas would feel much more welcome.
- With the arrival of the Lumas, the night skies begin raining down pieces of goodies called star bits, which are favorite snacks for the Lumas. The cooks of House of Foods decide to make treat that resembles them, which are based on japanese sugar candy, which the star children appreciates. According to Rosalina, the Star Bits are suppose to taste like honey.
- The Lumas never truly die, as they are capable of rebirth after they threw themselves into a black hole to neutralize it.
- Sirius despises these little stars because they managed to neutralize a black hole by throwing themselves into the horizon and are reborn as a result. He doesn't bother trying to take some of them for his "collection," because they would cause a mess in them.
- In space, there are strange phenomenon known as prankster comets, which cause strange effects to a neighboring galaxy. At first, they thought a Sleeper would cause some "fun" for the Pantheon. They were sorely mistaken... and ran back home to Mama.
- Aurelion Sol is blessed by the prospect of living baby stars and is thankful that Rosalina has taken good care of them.
WhirlRX
Since: Jan, 2015
#143818: Aug 20th 2019 at 11:29:46 AM
I guess Jirachi is a wishing star.
Ferot_Dreadnaught
Since: Mar, 2015
#143819: Aug 20th 2019 at 11:52:43 AM
@SuperWIKI1:Thrawn
- Nine the Phantom, Goddess of Sexy Witches (Konoe A. Mercury, "Nine", The Great Mage Nine, Phantom) as an Intermediate Goddess under Witches and Wizards (House of Magic), Female Appearances (House of Gender) and Physical Attractiveness (House of Personal Appearance).
Since there's now a limit to two (non-Main) houses, which should be removed?
WeirdWarrior
Press 5 For Senor
from the Sunshine State
Since: Feb, 2015
Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Press 5 For Senor
fasoman1996
Google "big ears"
from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland)
Since: Dec, 2014
Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#143821: Aug 20th 2019 at 11:58:04 AM
@Lumas I bet they would be scared of the C'Tan
Uni cat
#143822: Aug 20th 2019 at 12:20:08 PM
So can I add a for the Lumas?
#143823: Aug 20th 2019 at 12:20:24 PM
What else is left for Lars?
Lars Fillmore, God of Temporal Duplicates (originally Philip J Fry)
- House: Time Manipulation (House of Time and Space)
- Demigod
- Symbol: An old photo of himself, Fry and Leela
- Theme Song: 30th Century Man by Scott Walker
- Alignment: Neutral Good
- Portfolio: Walking Spoiler, an Older and Wiser Alternate Self of Fry, Living Paradox Duplicate (Which He Didn't Know For 12 Years), Sort Of Future Badass, Bald Of Awesome, Rival Of Affection For His Original Self, Doomed Because Of His Paradoxical Nature, Heroic Sacrifice, Being The Source Of The Time Code That Created Him, Temporal Paradox
- Domains: Time Travel, Copies, Alternate Paths, The Head Museum, Love, Reveals
- Special relationship with: Philip J Fry (his original/alternate self)
- Allies: Fry's allies(especially Leela and Rory Williams), both Trunks, Flash Thompson, George, Tenri Ayukawa
- On good terms with: Mariente Dupain-Cheng and Adrian Agreste, Anzu Mazaki
- On speaking terms with: Ben Tennyson
- Enemies: Fry's enemies, The Hounds of Tindalos, The Dehaka, Fused Zamasu, Eobard Thawne, Randall Ross, Nerif the Oracle, Porky Minch
- Opposes: EMIYA
- Sympathy for the Devil for: Nox
- Avoids: Funny Valentine
- Pitied by: The Doctor
- The Time Code allows one to ignore temporal paradoxes and go back in time, at the cost of being one way. When Fry was being chased by the scammers and sick of how Leela was dating Lars Fillmore, leading to him going back to half an hour after he was originally frozen. He used the time code to get pizza and created a copy of himself. The original Fry fell into the same tube the earliest version was in to return, the copy spent 12 years having to deal with unrequited love. Then after his larynx was burned and hair burned off, he realize he was Lars, and re-froze himself to meet Leela again.
- By his nature a paradox, though it wasn't until his wedding that Lars learned he was a doomed duplicate which is why he broke it off. He sacrificed himself to save Leela from Nudar with a doomed Bender duplicate. The Pantheonic Time Police was initially apprehensive of a living paradox like Lars ascending, but as he's otherwise harmless and fits the trope of Temporal Duplication his revival was permitted. While he's been restored, Lars has accepted he won't be able to be back with Leela as she's together with the original Fry.
- As he and Fry were the same entity for 33 years(technically 1033), Fry's allies and enemies are his allies and enemies. Besides Leela, he has a further appreciation of Rory due to how the flow of time has made him pine particularly hard for his beloved. While 50 biologically, Lars has spent an extra 1990 years of his life frozen. 988 of those involved three versions of the same person in the same facility.
- The Doctor pities Lars' situation as a doomed clone. He was forced to remove the Older Amy to save her younger self, after all, he doesn't like how the laws of time made Lars doomed. In turn, Lars has some sympathy for Nox as all the effort in time travel made to save his family was All for Nothing. That said, he doesn't approve of what he did.
- Because Lars Fillmore's existence is temporal and ontological (twice!) paradox, Clock Roaches despise him. The Hounds of Tindalos and the Dehaka have tried to hunt him down. Lars would also be destroyed if he touches Fry, though only if Funny Valentine and his Stand is in the proximity. So he tends to avoid being anywhere near the 23rd president.
- Though a paradox, Lars would rather not mess with time. He became a duplicate in the first place because he didn't want to abuse the time code for pizza like Fry. As such, he doesn't like how Nerif the Oracle caused a Reality-Breaking Paradox. He also hates how Randall Ross tried to use time travel to destroy time itself. On the other side of the coin, Zamasu is disgusted by Lars' very existence due to the time code, and Lars considers him reprehensibly evil.
- Lars really doesn't like how remorseless Eobard Thawne abuses time travel and changing things to get whatever his selfish heart desires, along with having Yandere tendencies to boot. The Reverse-Flash regards Lars as suffering from a sore lack of ambition for a living paradox like himself, and prides being able to break and twist history without repercussion.
- George's hatred of how confusing and messy time travel has Lars' sympathy given the complicated relationship he had to Fry, and wants to see if he can help. Due to that complicated relationship he has with Fry and how it's complicated their love life, he can relate to Anzu's feelings towards and alter ego, and the weird two person love triangle that Mariente and Adrian have.
- Lars' sympathies are with Tenri due to her unrequited love, and the fact that as both Lars and Fry he had the belief of wanting his beloved to be happy, though with a twist due to his nature. During his new existence, Lars Fillmore was a whale caretaker and head feeder of the head museum. He's met the jarred heads of a number of historical figures, though the versions ascended have different recollections to what he's used to. But they do appreciate the job he held. He also does jar jobs for people who get decapitated.
- Interested to learn of a number of deities who've met their time-displaced selves. He was interested to see that the two Trunks in the pantheon share a similar dynamic to him and Fry, with one being immature and the other Older and Wiser. He appreciates how Flash Thompson matured and mellowed over time. He also finds Ben's interactions with various future selves of his to be interesting. On the other side of the coin, Lars Fillmore was disturbed by how psychotically childish and malicious Porky Minch became through his abuse of time travel, never maturing like Lars did.
- Finds EMIYA quite abrasive; sure, even he somewhat dislikes his other self but at least he didn't try to outright kill him out of shame which EMIYA did, only it was out of wanting to die for good . EMIYA understands Lars' reasons but was still irked that the latter is attempting to achieve something that will never be fulfilled, not unlike his own goal.
AzureLegacy
Since: Sep, 2018
#143824: Aug 20th 2019 at 12:28:23 PM
@Lumas, I think that they’d also be opposed to SCP- 1548.
Also, is it alright if I can try to rework Nine the Phantom? Her profile has been bothering me for a while. The reason is that she’s labeled as a villain even though she isn’t evil. She’s associated with people she should be against and has made enemies with others when they really shouldn’t be enemies. Not to sound mean, but I kind of feel that the profile was made before they finished the Story and mostly went with the Arcade.
Edited by AzureLegacy on Aug 20th 2019 at 4:14:03 AM
I’m here to do something
#143825: Aug 20th 2019 at 12:31:30 PM
for Thrawn
Nightelf: Why does Joshua find Aslan a rival but also, why is it one-sided? It needs more explanation.
Edited by louisent31 on Aug 20th 2019 at 4:36:51 PM
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