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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • Gods can't be followers or high priests for obvious reasons.
  • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
  • No hype profiles, please.
    • So you ask, what exactly is 'hype profile'? It is a profile based on ongoing events that hasn't been around very long, but generates a lot of hype, possibly because of elements such as Wham Episode or Memetic Mutation or Large Ham or overall 'OMGAWESOME!!!' They're all not bad tropes, but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time). You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but don't make the profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
  • DO. NOT. put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, don't do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, do yourself a favor and delete it from that main page. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good & Evil Colors.
  • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
    • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
    • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
    • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
    • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to the Treasures or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Treasures or Dominions.
  • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
  • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
  • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you're only given three chances on such. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what's currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction.
  • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • Please use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, or something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted.
  • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this god has spots in other houses as well.
  • When writing facts/trivia about gods, try not to contradict what has already been written elsewhere.
  • When writing down the name of a Theme Song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name.
  • When adding an image for your God, make sure that it is not too big unless you wish to write more about the god you have chosen.
  • If you feel the need to remove a god for some reason and replace him/her with another, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. If you're lucky (and they're from the same franchise), maybe both of them can share the title "Gods of (Insert Trope Here)".
  • Certain tropes can have more than one God. It is not advisable, but it is not forbidden. Just ensure that this second God will bring in new flavor of the trope. If you have doubts on how to bring the other flavors, consult the Trope Pantheon Discussion forum. Case in point: In the original Greek Mythology (and later Roman Mythology), both Ares/Mars and Athena/Minerva share the title of 'God/Goddess of War', and even then, they differ in flavor: Ares is about brutal warfare, Athena is about war strategies and finesse, while Mars took up some of Athena's elements that he kinda differs out than Ares. If the original myth can do this, why the hell not for the Pantheon?
  • Be creative! If you need some time to work out your potential deity's profile, use the Pending Gods or Pending Gods 2 page to get help. Incomplete and/or low-quality entries are more likely to get deleted or replaced.
  • When writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. See also the Rules section. Especially the 1st bullet point.
  • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name.
  • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it's well advised not to abuse them. Aside from introducing too many niche concepts, there are still chances for new tropes related to your chosen deity's title to be launched through YKTTW...
    • Additionally however, the only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. IE: Their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they're closely associated with In-Universe, or both (example: Gangplank and his oranges).
  • Maximum number of tropes what a god should have is three, but don't try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused.
  • Some series will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps, as well. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it's because they're a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they're connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  • As far as deities from actual mythologies (Greco-Roman, Norse, Japanese, etc.) are concerned, try not to replicate the default myths about their characters and use a fictional counterpart instead. In other words, if you want to use the Greek/Roman god Ares/Mars, you can't add him as the "God of War", but you can use him as part of another trope as long as it's a different version of him. For example:
    • Zeus, while having elements of his persona from Classical Mythology, draws more from his portrayal in the God of War Series.
    • Thor and Loki's Pantheon portrayals are influenced heavily by their appearances in their Marvel Comics series.
    • Amaterasu is a woman in her Japanese mythology portrayal, but her Pantheon counterpart is the dog goddess from Ōkami.
  • Don't depend too much on the hype/meme train, don't just jump onto that train willy-nilly in order to put on some events or entry in the Pantheon. It might not last very long or represent the trope best. This is Trope Pantheons, not Trope Hype Train!
  • Unless the character proposed is specifically from the Abridged version, the character should represent the tropes in their canon selves. If they also happen to possess the trait of the Abridged self, good! But otherwise, get the abridged stuff onto just the flavor texts.
  • To prevent any surprising need to rework profiles due to new development, please restrain from ascending gods from a series before the thing is either released or for longer-running series, there is a good enough of a break from story. This also applies to already existing series if there is a new thing coming out.
  • Please be sure to ask in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you don't waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
    • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else.
  • It is much more recommended to word the title like "God of X" instead of "The God that Xs". This will give off the vibe the God actually ruled over that trope instead of just 'did X', giving more credentials to how it's the best example of the trope.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Deity Template 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Potential House:
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity. This doesn't always have to be a representation of power, but it can also represent influence in the Pantheon.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Song that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D.
  • Gender: For Pokémon deities only. Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
  • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
  • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies.
  • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals.
  • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes.
  • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that have various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.) other than allies, rivals, or enemies.
  • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Pokémon.
  • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
  • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or find pitiable.
  • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by, regardless of alignment.
  • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.

Edited by nombretomado on Aug 25th 2019 at 9:19:10 AM

Siegfried1337 Smug Grail from Fuyuki Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Smug Grail
Jun 11th 2019 at 8:56:58 PM

Okay, when did one part of the discussion turn about the age of Touhou Characters?

... And I started a new page. Cruds.

Edited by Siegfried1337 on Jun 11th 2019 at 8:57:18 AM

Does this look like the face of Mercy to you?
Jun 11th 2019 at 9:11:46 PM

What else should I add for Skull Kid?

Skull Kid, God of Forgotten Friends Turned Evil

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  • Demigod
  • Symbol: His flute
  • Theme Song: Lost Woods/Saria's Song
  • Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
  • Portfolio: Old Friend of Link and the Giants, Possessed by the Mask, Creepy Child, The Imp of the Woods, Lonely Person who wants friends, Immortal Immaturity, Trickster, Pawn to Majora, From Nobody to Nightmare
  • Domains: Friend, Evil, Corruption, Music, Loneliness
  • Heralds: Talt and Tael
  • Allies: Link, Navi, Zelda, Saria, Midna, Peter Pan, Tinker Bell, Toothiana, Klefki, Cosmo & Wanda, The Spring Sprite, Carl Clover, Alice Margatroid, Evangeline McDowell
  • Enemies: Majora's Mask, Ganondorf, Zant, SCP-035, Maleficent, Captain Hook, Denzel Crocker, Head Pixie, Galeem and Dharkon, Relius Clover, The Other Mother
  • Opposes: The Fairy Godmother, The Firebird
  • The Skull Kid, a strange imp-like creature found deep in the Lost Woods, was a lone creature. In the strange alternate world of Termina, Skull Kid was friends with the Four Giants, guardians of the land, until they lay dormant as part of their duties. The Skull Kid grew sorrowful of them leaving him, pent his frustration to the people of Termina until the Giants intervened and threatened him until he leaves. He found himself in Hyrule where he sang song, learning a song from a boy in green. He soon comes back to Termina where he befriended two fairies, Tatl and Tael, until they ambushed a man holding a strange mask... Majora's Mask.
  • Upon arrival, the Skull Kid is happy to see the fairy boy again (at least, one of the incarnation of him, anyways). The same, however, cannot be said of Majora's Mask, who used his loneliness to make him its pawn and caused suffering in Termina. The Skull Kid made a mistake of putting on the malevolent mask, and pledged never to make the same mistake again.
  • He is shown to be friendly to fairies due to his friendship with Tatl and Tael as well as calling Link "fairy boy." The Skull Kid wanted more fairy friends to play with him, except for the Fairy Godmother, who is not a good fairy friend.
    • He nearly confuse Navi for one of his fairy friends since they are a ball of light with wings from his eyes.
  • He sneers at SCP-035 when he heard that it is a Murderous Mask much like Majora's Mask. As the mask can deteriorate the wearer, the Skull Kid avoids this mask with extreme prejudice.
  • He dislikes adults as he can be seen shooting darts and playing pranks on them, preferring the company of children due to his impish nature. He made a special case for Link, and only Link, like a game of "hide-and-seek" for one adult incarnation of Link.
  • He often seen playing music in the middle of the House of Nature is it reminded him of the Lost Woods. He likes to play Saria's Song because it was the song that he learned from Link and has continue to play it as a token of his friendship.
  • He get along well with Peter Pan, since they are youthful pranksters who doesn't enjoy the company of adults, with Tinker Bell, Tatl and Tael all interacting with one another and sharing their own stories of their homeworlds. All five have been seen menacing Captain Hook, with the pirate captain becoming even more infuriated that there's another fairy kid in the Pantheon.
  • Like so many other gods, Skull Kid got caught up in the World of Light event, transformed into a Spirit by Galeem before being captured by Dharkon. He took possession of a Mii Brawler before Link, and several other survivors, defeated him and set his spirit freed once more. Once everything was cleared up, Skull Kid simply stays away from the two beings of light and darkness, not wanting to get entangled in their war once more.
    • He has made appearances in the fourth and fifth Smash tournaments though, turning opponents invisible just to mess them up.
  • Skull Kid find the sentient masks, Aku Aku and Uka Uka, to be funny looking but are very suspicious of the two due to bad experience with Majora's Mask. He seems a bit less suspicious of Aku Aku since he's a good mask while Uka Uka is a bad mask. Though both do not enjoy the existence of Majora's Mask.
  • Legend tells that children that are lost in the Lost Woods will become Skull Kids. None knows if this is true or if it is just tales to scare children to not venture into the dangerous forests, especially since this Skull Kid is a resident in Termina.
  • Some time in the future, the Skull Kid grew interested in puppetmaking and puppetry so that he is never truly alone. He even used them to test Link and fight alongside him. It was this that gravitated him to meeting Carl Clover and Alice Margatroid, while wanting to pull a terrible prank against Relius and the Other Mother.

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645
SuperWIKI1 Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time
Jun 11th 2019 at 9:16:47 PM

Grand Re-Organisation Plan:

Disclaimer: I have read the rules and regulations regarding Pantheon entries. I have not made any damaging changes to main Pantheon bios.

Based on my previous plan: I have some proposals in mind, so I'm waiting on some approvals so I can implement them (as I have stated, I have a mania for consistency). Also, the approvals are so I won't get flagged for editing. Along with this, I also have questions.

GUAG: 1) Certain senior character members should be in the GUAG Command Division but aren't. For example, I kinda added Yoda, Admiral Ackbar and Gandalf. What position should they occupy? If you don't know what I mean, all members in the division have an arrangement. Thus, I don't want characters from the same universe to clump together (i.e. Obi-Wan on top of Yoda, Yoda above Ackbar, read that page, you'll understand).

2) For people talking about the logos, I agree the idea has merit, but what I meant was that pictures exist where they shouldn't be (inconsistency). For example, the Command Division has no pictures for its respective members, but the Superhero Division does. Should I remove them or not?

3) I have noticed that zero Jedi are in the Combat Division despite Obi-Wan being in Command. Permission to add them? Also, where does Leia lie given her standing in the Pantheon currently. Command or Combat Division? Han Solo too.

4) The Superhero Division has become way too overbloated. Should it be separated into further sub-divisions? Like, the Superhero Commanders (Captain America the commander, Batman the head strategist, Superman the field leader), the DC branch and the Marvel branch? If someone seconds the motion, I can start work right away.

5) Should the support staff be divided? No idea how to go about this.

6) With Bertolt Hoover as the sole enemy Titan in the Pantheon, where should he be? The GUAE? Neutral? Based on this, should Eren and Mikasa be in the GUAG, given the scarcity of Survey Corps members.

7) The GUAG Gundam Corps should have Anaheim Electronics as a technological backer, thus, I kinda added a headquarters for them in the Pantheon Landmarks area. Info on that has been matched to the Gundam Corps page. Apologies. Please remove if its really not appropriate.

8) Certain divisions like GUAG Magus Killers and Token Evil Teammates seem underdeveloped (I have cleaned up Magus Killers with formats, where only god titles existed previously). Calling for attention on these parts given that I do not have the fictional knowledge necessary to further develop them.

9) More LOTR members should be in the GUAG, given that Melkor is the enemy leader, not just Manwe Sulimo (Am I saying it right?)

GUAE:

1) Should Thanos be in the GUAE Mastermind or Combat Division? Or should he be in the GUAD? Or should he have dual membership? I am prepared to add him per your remarks.

2) Given that Palpatine and the 501st are in the Conquest Army, I am prepared to add Thrawn and Tarkin into this branch. Tarkin should be listed there as the chief officer of the Death Star, currently in Dominions.

3) Potential storyline: Darth Vader is in the Pantheon, but given his redemption has cut ties with Palpatine (but NOT membership in the GUAE) (this storyline already exists). Thus, Palpatine has taken on Dooku as an interim apprentice (also already exists), thus Dooku and Grievous are forcibly in the GUAE despite doing their own thing. Meanwhile, Vader serves as a mole for the GUAG, but all its members are seeing is a master-apprentice squabble they should stay out of, so only Melkor suspects anything.

4) According to Melkor's pantheon profile, Majin Buu is his personal brute. Should I add this title to his GUAE profile (but NOT his Pantheon profile)? Also, given his membership in the GUAD, should I remove Majin Buu from the GUAD or should he have dual membership?

5) Given that the Villains house has the Four Horseman as Melkor's inner circle, I believe they should be stated as enjoying unofficial command status in the GUAE. Given that they are supposed to represent the most villainous of villains that ever villained, it seems ludicrous for this not to be the case.

6) Gihren's Pantheon bio states that his Zeon faction and Char's faction are currently at war. As such, this storyline ought to factor in the current state of the GUAE Mecha Cohort.

7) If my GUAG point 6 is approved, Bertolt Hoover should join the GUAE under Contractors (see below), to curry favour from Melkor to get his buddies (Reiner and Zeke) ascended and Annie re-ascended (I see clues that she was once a full-on deity). What should his allegiance be?

8) (This point has been approved, have implemented it, seeking further opinion). The GUAE now has a branch dedicated to members not truly loyal to Melkor, under contract or business deals, work with other alliances or morally grey. I got the ideas from Taskmaster and Deathstroke being in the Conquest Army (Taskmaster's motivation for joining is only because he's being paid by Melkor, Deathstroke's a contract killer). Others such as Raditz have been moved here too. Can someone help develop this?

9) Based on this, should HYDRA be under this branch, since their bio in the Villainous Roles sub-house clearly states them as being suppliers to the GUAE.

10) Frieza and Nobuyuki Sugou are stated as drinking buddies in the Bad Guy Bar, but no info has been given on this place. So, here's my potential bio on it, serves as a higher-class Villain Pub (HISHE fans take note), people know its in the House of Food, but not where specifically, most likely hidden in the Flesh Eaters sub-house. Most villains act as a Secret Keeper to it whereabouts, and only vague descriptions have been given regarding its interior (private parlors exists for people like Jabba the Hutt and Melkor himself).

11) Can ascended Toku villains be in the Demonic Legion? Doesn't seem to be the case here, yet the Toku Base does the exact opposite despite of a non-ascended majority, but not devoid of ascended deities. Also, based on GUAG Point 2, I have removed the pictures.

13) Expanding on this, since there is a Showa and Heisei splinter faction, should there be a Reiwa era faction once there are enough villains for this faction?

14) Does being a member of SHOCKER automatically make you a member of the Demonic Legion? Since Muruta Azrael, Lord Djibril and Nobuyuki Sugou work for them but are likely not to want a piece of the Kaiju battle since they are also focused on their universe's foes? If not, should they be listed under Contractors instead?

Now, bear with me, there some more...

GUAL:

1) According to Bask Om's bio, Char wouldn't let him in the GUAE. Can he join the GUAL as a result?

GUAC:

1) Millennium's allegiance. My take is that they are a GUAE Contractor, but given the Major's obsession with war, he individually has dual membership with the GUAC. If so, which division? And what title, since he's just one dude?

2) Since Apocalypse's bio states his radical philosophy as too much for the GUAE, should he be in the GUAC somewhere? Then where?

Treasures:

1) I have moved the Sengoku Driver and Lockseeds, as well as the Genesis Driver and Lockseeds, to the Miscellaneous Items area, since they can literally be used by anyone (stated outright in their Bios), unbefitting of a Maximum Security item. Second, Ryoma Sengoku has been stated to have been creating them freely for use by SHOCKER or others. Given this, the liberal use of Lockseeds makes the high security levels for them redundant.

I'm sorry for this long post, but as I have stated, I have a mania for consistency. So I'm trying to do what I can. I do hope I get some definite answers to all my points because I don't want to add something that others wouldn't like because I didn't get the proper opinion. Hope this doesn't sound harsh. Thank you very much! grin

Shukufuku no Toki! Saikou! Saizen! Saidai! Saikyo-o! Oma Zi-O!
Donnietu from Stockton, CA Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jun 11th 2019 at 9:22:11 PM

@Whirl RX: I think I should expand on Arnold's comment on there being "a lot of Helga types" a little more....

Arnold Phillip Shortman, God of Those Raised by Grandparents (Football Head, Arnoldo, Hair Boy, Short man, Arnie)

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  • Adopted from: Whirl RX
  • House: Family Dynamics
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: His blue baseball cap
  • Theme Song: “Hey Arnold!” Theme Song
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: The Ace, Blue Is Heroic, Cheerful Child, Determinator, Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold, Hairstyle Inertia. The Heart, Kid Hero, Nice Guy, Wears a baseball hat that was given to him by his parents, lives with his paternal grandparents, Oblivious to Helga’s crush on him but ultimately ends up with her
  • Domains: Children, Friendship, Kindness
  • Heralds: Gerald Johanssen (his best friend), Grandpa Phil and Grandma Pookie (his grandparents)
  • Allies: Steven Universe, Pollyanna Whittier, Harriet Welsch, Indiana Jones, Lara Croft, Heidi, Applejack and Applebloom, Fluttershy, Gentaro Kisaragi, Yugi Muto, Charlie Brown, Phineas Flynn
  • On good terms with: Flash Thompson
  • Enemies: Bullies in general, Commander Rourke
  • Arnold Shortman is a 4th-grade student with a head that’s shaped like a football. He lives with his grandparents in a boarding house in Hillwood. Most of the time, he would spend his time navigating big city life while dealing with problems that he and his friends have encountered. He has a desire of doing the right thing and wanting everyone to get along. His grandparents looking after him is what led him to ascend with the trope Raised by Grandparents.
  • His temple is pretty much a recreation of the Sunset Arms boarding house he lived in back in the mortal world. His grandparents also reside in the temple as heralds.
  • One of Arnold’s admired traits is his tendency to help anybody. Because of this, many other children deities look up to him as a role model. One such child that he gets along with is Steven Universe since he also likes helping out. Is also good friends with Pollyanna Whittier, who likes his optimism in spite of his hardships. Gets along with Phineas Flynn given that both of them are kids with weird;y-shaped heads.
  • One time, Arnold came across a young girl named Harriet who’s carrying her notebook and pencil. The two proceeded to discuss about their adventures as well as the eccentric people in their respective neighborhoods. They ended up getting along well as they are both kids living in big cities, although Arnold is concerned about Harriet’s spying actions.
  • In addition to his kindness, he was also known to drift off to his own imagination, if these three instances suggest anything. For some reason, however, this hasn’t been brought up that often.
  • Befriended Heidi after hearing about how she was brought to live with her paternal grandfather, which reminds him of living with her paternal grandparents. The Apple sisters also have a similar upbringing with their grandmother. He appreciates Applejack for being a helpful pony and Applebloom for being a Crusader who helps others find their true calling. He also connects with Yugi Muto given that he was also raised by a grandfather who happens to be an archaeologist.
    • Gentaro Kisaragi seems to have a soft spot for Arnold given that he also lost his parents and was raised by his grandfather. He would also befriend anyone and help people out. Arnold appreciates this as well as the fact that he serves as one of the Avatars of Friendship.
  • Sympathizes with Charlie Brown as his bad luck reminds Arnold of his friend Eugene, and he would sometimes offers to join Charlie on baseball games, especially given that Arnold tends to be good at baseball while Charlie Brown isn’t. Charlie, for his part, appreciates Arnold’s help and since then, the two would hang out every now and then.
  • Is pretty fond of Indiana Jones and Lara Croft given that they both remind him of his parents in that they were both adventurers. On occasion, Arnold would tag along with either of them on one of their adventures.
  • While he’s usually a kind-hearted person, he isn’t fond of bullies, particularly Biff Tannen. Although he can make an exception with Flash Thompson, a former bully and a Spider-Man fanboy whose job in the army changes him so much so that he became one of Peter Parker's closest friends. He’s also against those who tried to rob a lost ancient civilization, such as what Commander Rourke did with Atlantis.
  • Arnold is also shown to be pretty compassionate to animals. Notably, he has a pet pig, he got attached to a parrot, and he became close to a racing donkey. Fluttershy is pleased with this and sometimes allows him to visit her temple to take care of several animals who reside there.
  • Doesn’t know what to make on seeing a lot of Helga types in the Pantheon.

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louisent31 HE'S JUST SO BEAUTIFUL from Chaldea Relationship Status: I <3 love!
HE'S JUST SO BEAUTIFUL
Jun 11th 2019 at 9:45:29 PM

[up]Few examples of tsunderes I could think of are Asuka and Rin Tohsaka.

Edited by louisent31 on Jun 12th 2019 at 12:46:40 AM

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:16:24 PM

@ nightelf: Was that your approval for Caesar Clown? Either way, I agree they'd get along, though I don't think he's Practically Joker

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M1gamiTensei 2edgy4me from THE SINS NEVER DIE Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
2edgy4me
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:18:44 PM

[up][up][up][up] Thanos is neutral in the whole GUAE thing, and would rather do his own shit. You got to consider that the alliances are massive, so putting many members on the commanding section would take them away from where their priorities lie. Many tacticions and natural leaders are placed away from command and into where they do their thing best for a reason.

Never though I’d go into organization structure that much

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Jun 11th 2019 at 10:19:07 AM

JOYCONBOYZ FOREVER
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:20:27 PM

[up][up]Helga can be legit be seen as a Western equivalent of Asuka since Helga behavior is married by family neglect and abuse like Asuka. They also like a boy but they can't express it in a healthy way.

Edited by WhirlRX on Jun 11th 2019 at 1:21:13 PM

Gacha Is A Lie.
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:31:08 PM

All right. Here's the trimmed down profile of Rationality!Harry Potter

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Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, God of Rationalist Fiction (General Chaos, Harryzer, Tom Riddle, Good Voldemort)

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  • Potential House: Writing Techniques (Narrative sub-house)
  • Intermediate God
  • Symbol: The Emblem of the Chaos Legion (a hand poised to snap its fingers)
  • Alignment: Chaotic Good
  • Portfolio: Awesomeness by Analysis, Badass Bookworm, Child Prodigy, compelled to be a hero no matter what, Efficient Unpredictability, Encyclopedic Knowledge, does what he does for Humanity and Truth (via Science), Genre Savvy (inc. the wrong kind), goals of a Guile Hero and tactics of a Magnificent Bastard, explaining cognitive bias by demonstrating it, seeks immortality for everyone, Insufferable Genius, Knight In Sour Armor, Large Ham, Master of the Mixed Message, Nerd-Cultured Badass, Sore Loser, wishes to introduce tech to the wizarding world and magic to muggles, Home-Schooled Brat, Too Clever by Half
  • Domain(s): Rationality, Science, Magic, Chaos
  • High Priestesses: Luminosity!Bella and her daughter Elspeth
  • Followers: His army, the Chaos Legion
  • Allies: the canon Harry Potter, Hermione Granger, Draco Malfoy, Neville Longbottom (one-sided on Harry's part), Minerva McGonagall, Fred and George Weasley, Alastor Moody, Spock, any who value rationality
  • Enemies: Lord Voldemort, Bellatrix Lestrange, Fenrir Greyback, Dolores Umbridge, Grand United Alliance of Destruction, Amon, Tirek, Alex Wesker, all Hope Crushers
  • Other Relationships: Albus Dumbledore, Severus Snape
  • Feared by: the Dementors (seriously)
  • Opposes: Cornelius Fudge, any leaders who don't at all think rationally, all Gods of Death
  • Opposed by: the Dursleys, the Dahaka, Lady Amalthea, all non-evil-aligned Equestrian deities, Xerneas
  • So who exactly is this Harry Potter and how is he different from the canon one? Well, among other things, when he came under the care of his Aunt Petunia, instead of the abusive Vernon Dursley, she ended up with one Professor Michael Verres, an Oxford scientist and not at all (at least intentionally, though he tries not to) abusive. As such, growing up to be a firm Rationalist, he would eventually enter the wizarding world armed with Enlightenment ideals and the experimental spirit. Oh, and he eventually defeats his world's Voldemort before the end of his first year.
  • Finding a candidate for Rational Fic had been a daunting task, mainly because the best candidates were from fanfics, and several of them already have canon counterparts in the Pantheon. And then someone in the Court of the Gods found an ideal pick, and his case was argued with the fact that as a fanfic trope, only a Fanfic character can properly hold it, and he is the most well-known representative of it.
    • And thus, this Harry Potter was invited into the Pantheon. And due to his very rational mindset, to get most of the questions (and answer-searching) over with, he was immediately explained everything about the Trope Pantheons, how things there don't fully operate on rational thought, that the world operates in a narrative sense (he is to consult with Stephen and Morgana about Observation and Cognition as soon as his temple was set up), that significant change won't come easy, and other caveats that make it so that he doesn't have to worry about leaving his world behind while he's here.
  • His run-in with his canon counterpart had been... complicated, and he's been warned not to react too negatively about any irrational decisions they made throughout their lives.
    • Rational Harry's meeting with Canon Harry actually went well enough. He's aware of one key difference (among plenty others) that set the two apart; their upbringing and whom their Aunt Petunia had married. A life of abuse brought about low self-esteem and humility, whereas a life of scientific upbringing (and all the books to provide for it) brought about intelligence... and a "mild" case of superiority. Despite that, Rational Harry is still very much a hero, possibly to a greater extent than Canon Harry in terms of dedication to helping others.
      • In the end, Rational Harry decided to regard Canon Harry as someone he could've been had things went differently, but isn't ultimately that much lesser for it.
      • To better tell apart the two Harry Potters, remember that the Canon one is in/past his Seventh Year, while Rational Harry is in his First, and occasionally in his House Ravenclaw robes.
    • Regarding Canon Hermione, he's had to remind himself that this isn't the one he knows from his world. The lack of (miniscule) troll and unicorn traits should be enough of a difference, not to mention being older. Still, Canon Hermione was shocked that in his world, the mountain troll ate her counterpart's legs and she bled to death, and that Rational Harry took great lengths to bring her back to life.
    • Has nothing to say to Canon Ron, given they never became friends in his timeline. The only thing that bothers him is the fact that it's he who marries Canon Hermione, and he has trouble comprehending what she saw in him.
    • On the other hand, he has a better friendship with Canon Fred and Canon George and often visits them for supplies, and possibly some help in pulling pranks (some epic enough that they Obliviate themselves to keep the details secret should they get caught). Also, in his timeline, in lieu of Harry, they become the Heirs of Gryffindor instead. The twins were amazed that that was even possible.
    • Regarding Canon Draco, he's annoyed with the Slytherin's former bratty behavior, and he also feels awkward given he'd killed his father Lucius (and all the other Death Eaters), but at least he's trying to be better.
      • In fact, he wants to test if Canon Draco has enough happy thoughts of his parents that can render him able to summon a Patronus just like his world's Draco. Both Canon Draco and Ron think that is impossible, but Rational Harry took it as a challenge; he's done more impossible things aleeady.
      • By extension, he tries to avoid Canon Lucius, given Rational Harry doesn't have the same political arrangement with him as the one from his world.
    • True, it took far longer, and he's not nearly as dedicated or as insanely brilliant, but he still respects Canon Neville's achievements. Neville on the other hand doesn't share the same sentiments, given that Rational Harry had been instrumental in freeing Bellatrix from Azkaban in his world, even if Quirrel/Voldemort manipulated him into it; as a "rationalist", shouldn't he have seen how much of a terrible idea it was?
      • And when word of how he dealt with his world's Voldemort spread; i.e. Brainwashing for the Greater Good, then transfigured into a jewel Harry will carry around forever, until he can safely revive and redeem him, this drew a lot of concern. To the surprise of some of the good guys, Rational Harry can understand these concerns, explained that given Voldemort's Horcruxes are mostly invisible and inaccessible (one of them was the Pioneer Plaque), forcing this alternative, making killing him more trouble than it was worth, and promises not to resort to what he did as a first/second/third/fourth/etc. option, but an absolute last. He still has to maintain the transfiguration on his adversary, at least until he secretly requisitioned a stasis chamber.
    • Was initially surprised to see Canon Dumbledore, given how the one in his world ended up trapped in the Mirror of Erised. At the very least, he doesn't seem to be pretending to be sane pretending to be crazy.
    • He also has amicable relations with Canon McGonagall, though he found her a bit more stern, just like how she was when he first met her. He also decided to confide in her possible consequences for that by telling her of his world's version of the troll attack in First Year. Not enough help arrived with Harry to save Hermione from death (from bleeding out after her legs were eaten), and even after Fred and George saved the day with the Sword of Gryffindor, they fully expected to he expelled for going against the letter of her orders.
    • He's not sure what he can say to Canon James, but he treats Harry with as much love and pride that he was still a hero, attitude notwithstanding.
    • In regards to Canon Moody, given how he was subject to Informed Ability, Harry wondered what would be the best approach to gauging his abilities; alternate universe counterparts were not something he was used to yet. And then he found himself attacked in his temple by a paranoid Moody, and Harry was forced to step up his game to match. Neither are telling who won that duel, but Harry seemed to be satisfied at the end of it.
    • Naturally, upon hearing of a second Harry Potter in the Pantheon, Canon Voldemort and his Death Eaters were displeased with this and immediately made to teach him his place. Rational Harry summarily trounced them with his experience as General Chaos, and the fact that the Canon Dark Lord was nowhere near as competent as the version he had to deal with in his world made it all the easier.
    • Was left baffled that one of the theories of the implausible events between the Canon Sirius Black and Peter Pettigrew was what actually happened. Naturally, given there was never a chance to meet, Rational Harry isn't nearly as close to Sirius as Canon Harry is. It doesn't help that in his world Sirius Black and Peter Pettigrew are the same person. It turns out that, in there, Peter Pettigrew was a metamorphmagus instead of an animagus, and an actually guilty Sirius Black avoided being sent to Azkaban by arranging for a transformed and Confunded Peter to be arrested and imprisoned in his place.
    • Given how little they've interacted, if at all, he has no real opinion on Canon Cedric, [[ Luna Lovegood]] Hagrid, Trelawney, Slughorn, Lupin, Fenrir, or Barty Crouch Sr.
  • Has a sleep cycle of 26 hours, making regular class schedules difficult to adapt to. Thankfully, he has a Time-Turner for this, bequeathed by his world's Professor McGonagall. Unfortunately, there are entities that wouldn't be happy with his constant exploitation of it, especially the Dahaka, which forced him to tone down his use of it to just getting around his sleep disorder (and other minor stuff, and use alternative methods for more important matters instead). He speculates that Canon Harry had this issue too, but that it was long since stamped out by his abusive childhood.
  • Is always prepared for any possible occasion, most importantly situation where he has to save a life, and his mokeskin bag sees to it that he can carry it all and call for what he needs. He has no Freudian Excuse for this until the gruesome death of his world's Hermione. He'll also know if his memory was compromised; he has a system prepared specifically for that situation.
    • And if he doesn't have something, he can transfigure it. And he's so good at it that he's even learned how to do partial Transfiguration, which is so far impossible for any wizard from the Potterverse.
  • As he was born with a scientific upbringing, he readily utilizes Muggle items/"artifacts" in conjunction with what magic he's learned in Hogwarts, making him that much more unpredictable compared to other classical spellcasters.
  • Aside from annoying him with ideas that lack any form of rational basis, one thing that sets him off is the idea that his parents might've been abusive, because they're not.
  • Rational Harry leads one of the most efficient 'armies' in the Pantheon. While not one of the strongest, they are one of the few that are the least crippled when it comes to infiltrators in its ranks. This is because he employs parts of the recon pull philosophy, where his subordinates have the initiative and can choose what they think is best while he acts as the coordinator focusing on the big picture.
  • Ever since he missed his chance on getting a phoenix, he's been trying again, mainly though trying to figure out Phoenix and what it would take to earn its favor. So far, there has not been much success.
  • When he had first heard that there were Dementors in the Pantheon (and as deities, no less), Harry decided he would go on a manhunt to purge the Pantheon of their presence, calling them a wound in the world. Upon hearing they had a temple, he went straight there with clear intent to find a way to exterminate every last one of them. If only he had some way of luring every single one to a single place so he can destroy them all once and for all. Unfortunately for him, the Dementors have their own allies and that means he'll have to make sure to get rid of those gods, too.
    • And for some reason, his reputation in his world managed to precede him all the way to the Pantheon, for when he first encountered one face-to-face, it immediately hightailed it out of there, screaming in fright, and all other Dementor encounters ended up the same way. It baffled him at first since he certainly knew that Canon Harry doesn't have this reputation with them, but he eventually deduced and concluded that they somehow know of his accomplishments against them (be it from the Court or the nature of the Trope Pantheons), namely being able to outright destroy them with his unique brand of Patronus Charm, though it is Cast from Lifespan when used in that level rather than that of a standard Patronus.
    • As a side effect of being The Dreaded to Dementors, Harry's become a target for the despair-propagators in the Pantheon as they're also concerned with this development; what is he capable of that Dementors actively avoid him?
    • Speaking of his Patronus, the fact that he can cast one has somehow become public knowledge too, and that it takes the form of a Homo sapiens sapiens, though not the Dementor-killing bit or or its ability to return life to a dead body. He's not teaching anyone how he does that; given its nature, and the required mindset, one has to personally come to the same conclusion and thought process he did lest they lose the ability to cast the standard Patronus Charm trying to mimic him.
  • Because of his symbol and his "chaos" strategy, some wonder if Discord or Q had anything to do with this inspiration. Both have denied all such claims.
  • Ever since first seeing McGonagall turn into a cat, even after learning Transfiguration in Hogwarts (to the point that he can do it partially, though he tries as hard as possible to keep that a secret), he twitches upon seeing other shapeshifters do their stuff. The few exceptions are technical "blobs" such as the T-1000, and the Hard Light Crystal Gems (his real issue is with Steven's existence period and his ability to fuse just like them, even with a completely organic companion like Connie).
  • Just because he's extremely intelligent doesn't mean he's infallible; he's still 11 years old, after all, and his various shortcomings have made that painfully obvious to him.
  • After the near-disaster that was his war against Voldemort/Professor Quirrel and everything that has led to it, he's finally learned that he's not the only hero in this fight, and always makes sure to confide what he knows to his superiors (and other adults as long as they respect his intelligence and don't blow him off for his minority) in the fight against evil, mostly Dumbledore and Cosmos. Given his great intellect, the latter is grateful to have someone like him on her side.
  • As his struggles are on behalf of humanity, he naturally opposes YHVH for his progress-stifling ideals, and Lucifer for his goals putting a lot of humanity in danger in his fight against the former.
  • A rumor (which might be true) spread that Harry had apparently killed a unicorn for its blood some of which might've been used for the revival process on his world's Hermione, earning him the ire of not only Lady Amalthea, but all non-evil-aligned denizens of Equestria (Rarity on top of that list) and Xerneas. Harry for his part is trying to make time to clear up this issue, but he's annoyed that "narrative reasons" keep him from doing so at every turn.
  • Sees death as the final enemy to life and something that should be ultimately removed forever one day, and so he holds no favor to all grim reapers and death deities, but finds the Death Is Cheap nature of the Pantheon as a temporary convenience to help achieve his goal.
    • It's true that Harry seeks immortality, but he wants it for everyone, so any other seekers of it that have no problem with taking lives to achieve it (like Alex Wesker), or require lives to maintain the immortality are enemies of his as not only do they go against everything he believes in, it would ruin the whole point of his goal.
  • Advises broomstick riders to never attach a rocket to it for faster flying; he tried that himself, and it almost cost him and his passengers.

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here
HamanaHamanaHamana The Badger’s CEO from :p Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
The Badger’s CEO
Jun 11th 2019 at 11:34:28 PM

I agree with the Re-organization. I also believe that there should be a refixing of who should be in such alliance and whatnot. I feel like many deities do not fit the Grand Alliances. Teams RWBY and JNPR only fought for survival in the world of Remnant, not for the "super good" while Manus from the GUAD is more of a force of nature rather than a destroyer entity since he was forcefully awakened.

Beset on all sides by idiots.
SuperWIKI1 Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time
Jun 11th 2019 at 11:52:47 PM

To be honest, I'm on holiday at the moment. That's why I have the time to do all this. I agree with your views, though on a more moderate view since it's mostly on categorisation and sub-divisions I'm worried about. I really want answers as I'm worried someone's going to criticise me for developing underdeveloped section and adding sub-divisions to for example the GUAE Conquest Army into sub-armies based on universe. Such as The Empire Division. I want approval on all those queries I addressed so no one. And at this rate I don't believe a weeks waiting period is enough based on the frequency of responses. No offense guys. I don't mean to be rude. To that commenter on Thanos, thank you. I have removed him from the GUAE, though he remains in the GUAD.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Jun 12th 2019 at 2:53:25 AM

Shukufuku no Toki! Saikou! Saizen! Saidai! Saikyo-o! Oma Zi-O!
KaijinZero Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Jun 12th 2019 at 12:13:24 AM

@hamana That's not quite true. Ruby and company are fighting for what believe is right at the moment.

SuperWIKI1 Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time
Jun 12th 2019 at 12:15:59 AM

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but Hamanahamanahamana was that a reply to me or an independent comment?

Shukufuku no Toki! Saikou! Saizen! Saidai! Saikyo-o! Oma Zi-O!
HamanaHamanaHamana The Badger’s CEO from :p Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
The Badger’s CEO
Jun 12th 2019 at 2:02:48 AM

That was on you

Beset on all sides by idiots.
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Jun 12th 2019 at 2:15:33 AM

[up]This is why we use arrows and @'s.

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here
Siegfried1337 Smug Grail from Fuyuki Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
SuperWIKI1 Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time from The Apocalyptic Future Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Oma Zi-O, the Demon King of Time
Jun 12th 2019 at 2:24:03 AM

[up] Sorry, sorry, no offense meant. I'll wait a week before I start implementing the big changes in my re-organisation post. I won't change their bios besides spelling and stuff.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Jun 12th 2019 at 5:24:32 PM

Shukufuku no Toki! Saikou! Saizen! Saidai! Saikyo-o! Oma Zi-O!
CrownlessMimic Choco Daughter from In A World Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Choco Daughter
Jun 12th 2019 at 2:26:07 AM

Anything else for this rework?

I am the Guardian of the Unseen, and Knower of the Unknown. I have been watching you, Troper.

Hermaeus Mora, Daedric Prince of Keeping Forbidden Knowledge (Herma-Mora, Mora, Hoermius Mora, Hormaius Mora, the Prince of Fate, the Demon of Knowledge, Woodland Man, Gardener of Men, the Golden Eye, Old Antecedent, Lord of Secrets, Abyssal Cephaliarch, Scryer, Inevitable Knower, Wretched Abyss)

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  • Overdeity
  • Symbols: His emblem, his realm Apocrypha, the Black Books, the Oghma Infinium, and his various statues and shrines
  • Alignment: Neutral Evil
  • Portfolio: Anthropomorphic Personification of Knowledge, Born from "thrown-away ideas", Keeper of Forbidden Knowledge, Sudden Sequel Heel Syndrome, Apocrypha, Trading knowledge with mortals, I Gave My Word, Affably Evil, Averting A Form You Are Comfortable With, Don't cross him, Supposedly The Older Immortal, Greater-Scope Villain in Dragonborn through Xanatos Gambit
  • Domains: Knowledge, Hoarding, Fate, Destiny, Memory, Past, Future, Manipulation
  • Followers: Seekers, Lurkers, all seekers of knowledge
  • Allies: Yog-Sothoth, Cthluhu, Shub-Niggurath, Azathoth
  • Unwitting Pawn: The Dovahkiin
  • On speaking terms with: Hircine, Sheogorath, Molag Bal
  • Rivals: Every Omniscient being, Nyarlathotep (Cthulhu Mythos), The Old Gods
  • Annoyed by: ZONE, Howard "Buckshot" Holmes
  • Enemies: MIRAAK, Alduin, Vaermina, the Dragonborn's enemies, The Phantom Thieves of Hearts (especially Futaba Sakura), Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Deckard Cain, The Nephalems, Meteora Österreich, Adam Conover, Unown, Arceus
  • Supposedly the oldest of the Daedric Princes, born from ideas not meant to be during the time of creation, Hermaeus Mora is both a keeper and seeker of all forms of knowledge ranging from the grand to the mundane. He's mostly synonymous with forbidden knowledge and befitting that he's easily the most Eldritch out of all the Daedric Princes in appearance and presence. Though Affable, he is still very ruthless when it comes to collecting knowledge and is not above tossing aside his followers once they have exhausted their use to him. The Prince of Fate is also quite manipulative as well, having nearly seduced the Nords into becoming Aldmer in the past and orchestrating the events behind Dragonborn not only gaining the Skaal's knowledge that they hid from him, but also getting rid of his champion Miraak (who plotted against him) and getting a new one in the form of the Dragonborn whether they like it or not. The Dragonborn does admit the benefits of serving Mora is absolute freedom should they not try to turn on him and free unlimited Skill Point Resets.
  • The Daedra Lord's arrival was noticed when a hidden path in the House of Knowledge was revealed one day. A tunnel, seemingly spiraling down into what many would assume is the House of Knowledge's very core. Books upon books who's origins traced back to Tamriel were stacked large enough to become bookcases of their own, and the very end of it all lead to a shrine in his grotesque image. The person/people who reached it, whoever they were, found themselves meeting a "Wretched Abyss" explaining who he was and how he would soon take root in the Pantheon as one of the Three Seekers of Knowledge. Perhaps in part to the Dragonborn's ascension, Hermaeus Mora is the first of the Daedra Lords to have made his stay and rooted himself into the Pantheon. Soon following him were Hircine, Sheogorath, Molag Bal, and even his enemy Vaermina, but they came only long after him.
    • He is said to be a "sibling" to the unascended Daedric Prince Mephala who's quite obsessed with interfering with the affairs of mortals purely for his/her own amusement. By association with them Mora is vaguely connected to the Morag Tong and has some connections to the House of Killers & Assassins, even if he doesn't really interact with them all that much. Some suspect Hermaeus Mora is responsible for bringing the Ebony Blade, Mephala's Daedric Artifact infamous for its ability to sow strife, into the Pantheon.
  • Hermaeus Mora's realm is the one and only Apocrypha: A place where towers and walls of books go as far as the eye could see and beyond, where pages upon pages fly in the wind, forever haunted by ghosts doomed to search for knowledge, and is surrounded a sea of writhing masses of acidic tentacles. Its "librarians" shall we say are the faithful Cthulhumanoid Seekers, who don't take kindly to any outsiders skulking around the shelves. Accompanying them in guarding Apocrypha depths are the Lurkers, titanic brutes with the strength to match that contrast the more magical Seekers.
    • The most famous item attributed to the Prince of Fate is the Oghma Infinium. Written by Xarxes and wrapped in the skins of various elven races to account for his favorite accomplishment in times past it is able to grant the reader great power before disappearing from their possession. Presumably, this to prevent them from learning too much. Lesser known are the Black Books which accomplishes a similar purpose. Though it isn't quite as straightforward for the reader is taken to Apocrypha and brave its dangers to get what they want. Dying there isn't a danger, but becoming mad is.
  • Despite having in the Pantheon for quite some time, having been here long enough before the subsequent fall of Madoka, Mora seemed to have layed in the midst of all that has happened in the Pantheon. And besides a larger influx of deities, by the time the reformation of the GUAL came around some people have actually forgotten Hermaeus Mora's presence despite his role as one of the Three Seekers of Knowledge. His silence was broken when he had one unfortunate god impaled by his tentacles for supposedly trying to usurp his position as a Pantheon God and right after that Mora appeared to a recently recovered and ascended Miraak to taunt him for his failures. Enraged, Miraak proceeded to take his anger out on the House of Knowledge before Histoire kicked him out and banned the First Dragonborn.
    • Right after that Histoire called the Daedric Prince out for a) Flaking out on them for a long time and b) Causing some widespread damage to the House for no reason other than to spite the First Dragonborn. He responded by saying he was merely using his godhood to seek out more knowledge beyond his realm than what the Pantheon had to offer. Plus, the fact that he's mocking of Miraak was justified considering the sheer arrogance in that he could successfully conspire against him in his own realm.
  • In spite of the evidence to the contrary, most notable being his fierce rivalry with any genuine omniscient being, Mora still puts up the all-knowing facade in the Pantheon when dealing with seekers of knowledge. Then again, even if he isn't omniscient it's still very likely he knows much, much more than the average Pantheon goer. As stated earlier Mora has been utilizing his Pantheonic godhood for the purpose of extensively looking into the many different worlds to further his vast library realm. He's willing to deal with such findings, but those wise enough ought to know restraint and not take their chances lest ones weak mind snaps in two. However, to the more steeled and stalwart of adventurers the knowledge gained and braved would prove invaluable.
    • In her quest to know more about the Pantheon itself Meteora has landed in the unfortunate hands (tentacles? claws?) of the Golden Eye and though details on the incident were sparse, the bottom line is that she doesn't want anything to do with him ever again. Deckard Cain would of been yet another victim to the Daedric Prince if it were not for the efforts of the Nephalems coming just on time. Mora cursed the adventurers' names but has not made another move on them or the Last Horadrim since then.
    • Though the attempted thefts of the book Ninjas of the Ice caused quite the stir with one attempt after another, it is said that the Daedric Prince had already long since peered into its contents. Likely, he plans to use these as gifts to manipulate those with enough greed for it for future use in the Pantheon. There's apparently enough ninjas wanting whatever is written said pages for Hermaeus Mora to utilize.
  • By principle, Hermaeus Mora is in direct opposition to Adam Conover and the reasoning is actually pretty plain as day. Hermaeus Mora, while willing to deal with his knowledge, ultimately wants to horde it to become omniscient whereas Adam Conover is willing to give it all away to better people through pointing out the various lies and misconceptions common throughout everyday life that is also often taken for granted. Adam refers to what he does as "ruining" but he does what he does under the idea that it is "always better to know".
  • If the shapeless form, tentacles, and madness-inducing books somehow didn't get the message across, Hermaeus Mora's concept and design takes great inspiration from the Cthulhu Mythos and as such he has quite the relationships with its deities. He regards Azathoth in a friendly manner, and has been known to commune with Shub-Niggurath, Cthulhu, and especially Yog-Sothoth due to the various similarities they share with each other. Meanwhile, the Daedric Prince is instead seen as a rival to Nyarlathotep.
    • And speaking of rivalries, the Daedra Lord has a fierce one regarding all four members of the Old Ones. Originally, it started with N'Zoth simply for the fact that he was known to have some partnership with Vaermina but overtime this came to include the group as a whole. The reasoning for this could be traced back to similarities, namely the knowledge that drives people mad which they have been known to be involved with, but the more bigger issue arises in their goals. That being, their drive to corrupt anything and everything, which is very much capable of standing in the way of Mora's very own plots in the future. Molag Bal was much in the same once, though at least the Planemeld was one incident.
  • The young Futaba Sakura has nothing but contempt for the Daedric Prince considering her own mother was killed for her research whereupon it was covered up as a suicide and that she was to blame for it. Even if traumatizing someone like that is more up Mephala's or Molag Bal's alley, she wouldn't find it out of the question for him to do the same as Shido did and as such warned her fellow Phantom Thieves of the threat he poses considering the Prince's interests in Mementos. Hermaeus Mora bluntly agreed that he would of offed her for daring to hide such secrets but he also stated that all their attempts to bar him from the cognitive world is only delaying the inevitable. As far as he's concerned, he doesn't need to get to them if he dare so wants a piece of the cognitive world. Remember one of his titles: The Inevitable Knower.
  • It was found that in another time and place Hermaeus Mora was, in his desire to obtain the vast knowledge of Hyrule, directly responsible for the complete destruction of the entire kingdom. Although he has yet to do so here, he has earned the ire of Link, Zelda and Ganondorf because, with his obsession of obtaining and hoarding knowledge, burning Hyrule to the ground was something Hermaeus Mora was very capable of doing. Because of this, he is the only deity that Link and Ganondorf will align against should they feel that he poses enough of a threat to Hyrule, as Ganondorf simply desires to rule Hyrule rather than completely destroy it.
  • He's constantly pestered by the perversion potential in his use of tentacles ever since the way he disposed of Storn Crag-Strider and Miraak was made known to the public. And we really do mean constantly. Spearheading this annoyance are Howard "Buckshot" Holmes and ZONE.
The riddle unsolveable. The door unopenable. The book unreadable. The question unanswerable.

"I'm not standing in front of the command console to watch them become piles of scrap,"
nightelf37 The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Relationship Status: Brony
The Keyblade, Mermaid, and Pony Seeker
Jun 12th 2019 at 5:00:18 AM

Hold on. Regarding Ben 10 and his Omnitrix, is there something that prevents him from copying the DNA of every ascended alien in the Pantheon?

If so, aww... I wanted to see if he can copy a Saiyan and how much can he do with it.

[down]I don't think he's that stupid, and there would be others who would eventually point that out to him.

Perhaps there should be a rework on his profile that enforces a limit set to his Omnitrix so that only aliens that he's already transformed into are available to him, and to disable its DNA scanning feature.

Edited by nightelf37 on Jun 13th 2019 at 12:04:21 AM

If you can't get around it, go through it fast. Personas and Nanos, make 'em here
M1gamiTensei 2edgy4me from THE SINS NEVER DIE Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
2edgy4me
Jun 12th 2019 at 7:17:27 AM

[up] Nope there isnt, it’s just Ben’s too dumb to

JOYCONBOYZ FOREVER
fasoman1996 Hamston ball from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Hamston ball
Jun 12th 2019 at 7:40:32 AM

Small update on the Tyrant. Did he appear in any Crossover btw?

Tyrant Model T-002, God of Bioweapon Creatures (T-002, Tyrant, The Ultimate Lifeform)

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  • Potential House: Genetic Engineering
  • Intermediate God
  • Symbol: His exposed beating Heart
  • Theme Song: Fierce Pursuit and Final Battle
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Body Horror, Breakout Character, Final Boss, Made of Iron, Mighty Glacier, Super Soldier, Wolverine Claws, Unflinching Walk
  • Domains: Mutants, Infection, Soldiers, Bio-terrorism, Science
  • Allies:
  • Enemies: Jill Valentine, Chris Redfield, Rebecca Chambers, Claire Redfield, Leon S. Kennedy, Mewtwo, Shadow the Hedgehog
  • Source of Interest for: Albert Wesker
  • One of the first developed Tyrants from the Umbrella Corporation, the T-002 was a top secret project in the Arklay Mountains facility in the Spencer Mansion, dubbed as the "Ultimate Lifeform". Having made incredible progress during its mutation, the T-Virus outbreak in the Spencer mansion put a halt to that, until it was awakened by Dr. Albert Wesker, having revealed himself as a traitor to his own S.T.A.R.S. unit and The Mole for Umbrella. Unfortunately, he was shortly killed by the newly awakened Tyrant, who proceeded to chase after the remaining S.T.A.R.S. officers until it was taken down by a rocket launcher. The Tyrant is incredibly resistant to all firearms, even capable of deflecting missiles and barely flinching when hunting down its target and kickstarted the pattern of powerful creatures the protagonist of the Resident Evil franchise would have to deal on a daily beast. That's why it eventually was ascended by Umbrella.
  • It turns out Lord Spencer was behind the Tyrant's ascension, having made contact with an unknown party that broke the Tyrant lose near one of the Houses before it was neutralized. Spencer didn't agree to those terms and now he has lost control over the Tyrant, with his other fierce enemies wanting to acquire the B.O.W. for themselves.
  • While a mindless creature, it seems to have retained a form of recognition for both Chris Redfield and Jill Valentine, both responsible for eliminating the Tyrant during their scape from the Spencer Mansion. Interestingly, the first thing he did after the ones that brought him into the pantheon lost control over him was go after Chris and Jill. He was swiftly taken care of by the pantheon authorities and put into stasis in a newly assigned temple, or the more aptly containment zone. The place was set by the SCP Foundation, who wanted to study the Tyrant and understand what inspired Umbrella Corp. into creating such an abomination.
  • There were times where the Tyrant showed up and aided Jill in battle. However, given its nature, it's likely that he was never intending to help jim but wanted to attack her and ended up hitting someone else instead.

Cursed hamster boi
CrownlessMimic Choco Daughter from In A World Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Choco Daughter
Jun 12th 2019 at 8:02:37 AM

[up] Project X Zone says they are one of the represented Mooks in the games.

"I'm not standing in front of the command console to watch them become piles of scrap,"
Jun 12th 2019 at 10:14:38 AM

Is anyone doing Spike from Buffy? Because I'm surprised he isn't back yet.

Jessica Miriam Drew Goddess of Wall Crawling (Spider-Woman, Arachne, Mistress of the Dark Blade)

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Jessica, with her son, Gerald. This is the real deal, not The Skrull Queen
  • Potential Houses: Other Powers
  • Intermediate Goddess
  • Symbols: A Stylized Spider
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Mother to Gerald Drew, Ambiguously Bi, Mind Control And The Skrulls Are Her Berserk Button, Broken Bird, Dude Magnet Due To Her Pheromones, Heroine With Bad Publicity, She's Got Legs, Stiff Upper Lip,
  • Domains: Good, Spiders, Strength, Espionage, Charm
  • Herald: Anya Corazon/Spider-Girl
  • Allies:
  • Enemies: HYDRA, Johann Schmidt/Red Skull, M. Bison, Quan Chi, Albert Wesker, Alex Wesker, Gabriel Reyes/Reaper, Amélie Lacroix/Widowmaker
  • Uneasy Relationship: Jessica Jones
  • It was been a project Carol Danvers has been working on for years. She has been trying to find a way to help her best friend ascend, a superhero named Jessica Drew AKA Spider-Woman. While never one of the most common superheroes in the Franchise/Marvel Universe debut comic, she often came in play in secret. Her most prominent appearance was when she joined the New Avengers and was instrumental towards defeating Norman Osborn and his Dark Avengers. Thanks to the newfound popularity, she even maintained her own comic again for a couple of years. It was Peter Parker who helped her find a spot, giving his blessing for her ability to cling to walls. Thus Jessica made claim in the Pantheon.
  • Jessica Drew's origin story has gone through several re-tellings, but most of them agree on the aftermath. She ended up at HYDRA where she was trained in combat and espionage. Eventually, she caught word of its evil actions and joined SHIELD instead. It was a little time afterwards that she decided to give the superhero business a try, and the rest was history. Thus her admiration with Nick Fury and rage at HYDRA, especially lieutenant Madame Hydra who oversaw her brainwashing.
  • The tone was set immediately as Carol Danvers gave her a long hug to her best friend. The two superheros have been looking out for each other not long after their debuts. Spider-Woman helped Carol to get back on her feet after being drained by Rouge and was one of the few Avengers who initially took her side in the infamous Marcus incident. Their friendship great to greater heights when Carol returned the favor and helped Jessica out during her pregnancy and subsequent birth. The two may have had a brief spat, but they have remained best friends. There has even been rumors of romantic implications... which is something Jessica agrees but she keeps things professional.
  • Just to state the obvious... no she has no relations with Peter Parker or any of his theme superhero friends and has enough differences in powers to set them apart.. Stan Lee admits that he initially created her to get on top of any potential female distaffs of Spider-Man, but she proved popular enough to warrant her own series. He saw to it to distance her from the webcrawler so as to prevent her from being attached to him. Nowadays the two can joke around regarding their codenames.
    • Just to clarify, the only other thing she does have in common with him is Super Strength. Othewise, she can glide in the air and give out pheromones that attract the opposite sex.

Piper Halliwell, Phoebe Halliwell and Paige Matthews, Trivumate Goddesses of Botching Personal Gain through Powers (The Charmed Ones)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/charmed_2.jpg
From left to right: Phoebe, Piper, Paige

Edited by Patrickthekid on Jun 12th 2019 at 12:24:19 PM

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jun 12th 2019 at 11:17:20 AM

@Charmed Trio: I think their profile would have been better if you add an introductory bullet on who they are.

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
AjWargo Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls! from Westfeild, New Jersey
Lord Barglebroth, Come For Your Souls!
Jun 12th 2019 at 11:28:15 AM

Btw, are we still trying to merge the Winnie the Pooh profiles?

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