Trope Pantheons Discussion

M1gami:

Any remaining suggestions for these two or do they both look good for ascension?

Secret Squirrel, God of Storing Items in Trench Coats (Agent 000)

• Lesser God
• Symbol: His hat and trenchcoat
• Alignment: Neutral Good
• Portfolio: Crazy-Prepared, Alliterative Name, Almost Never Using the Front Door
• Domains: Squirrels, Spies
• Herald: Morocco Mole
• Allies: Squirrel Girl, Nick Fury, Perry the Platypus
• Enemies: The Spy
• Sitcom Arch-Nemesis: Black & White Spy, Ratatoskr
• Odd Relations: Conker the Squirrel, Dr. Doofenshmirtz
• Whenever trouble is afoot and some devious ne’er do well is out and about taking something they deem valuable, it’s up to this squirrel to stop them in their tracks and take them down. Secret Squirrel, alongside his sidekick Morocco Mole, is tasked with finding various criminals, though he has plenty of quirks for someone in the spy field. He relies on his trenchcoat in order to help him get closer to his target and that trenchcoat is stored with anything ranging from weapons of all kinds to a machine that lets him analyze an item and determine who he’s after. For the most part, Secret isn’t the brightest spy out there, but he’s been generally successful at doing what he needs to do.
• Secret and Morocco were summoned one day by their boss, who told them that there was a letter sent to Secret that had no written material and no address as to where it came from. After analyzing it with a machine inside his trenchcoat, Secret learned that the letter came from a “Pantheon” and that Secret and Morocco would go there to see what that “Pantheon” wanted. The two took their flying car with them and after some time, wasn’t sure where “Pantheon” was exactly. Secret then pressed a button on the car that would make it go faster, resulting in them crashing into a building not long after. No one was there to greet them, but Secret did find a newspaper talking about the Pantheon and its various crimes. After realizing what was going on, Secret took it upon himself and Morocco that they would continue their work in the Pantheon and stop any evildoers that come their way.
• The building that Secret and Morocco crashed into belonged to Nick Fury, who learned that some strange visitors ended up in his place while he was busy. After learning that Secret was a spy, Nick decided to talk to the squirrel to get a few things straight. The sight of a talking squirrel wasn’t all that odd given that Nick has seen stranger occurrences happen and he was quick to point out to Secret that there are plenty of other spies in the Pantheon both good and evil. Nick pointed out that even with the wide assortment of gadgets that Secret can get out of his trenchcoat, there are plenty of dangers that are far greater than Secret has known thus far. Secret was willing to work with Nick whenever possible and has been given some missions from him since then, though Nick could do without Secret crashing into his room whenever he’s requesting the squirrel.
• While on a mission to stop a criminal from going after some nuclear weapons, he came across Squirrel Girl talking to some squirrels. Doreen was more than excited to meet up with another squirrel and asked if he was a spy given the outfit he was wearing. He stated yes and that he’s able to talk on his own to others. Doreen tagged along with Secret on his mission and came across a criminal mastermind that was trying to steal the weapons in an attempt to take over the Pantheon. Just as Secret was about to get a weapon to finish things, Doreen was able to make quick work of the criminal and get him arrested, much to Secret’s surprise. Regardless of how things played out, both Doreen and Secret have gotten along with each other very well, with Doreen offering her help to Secret whenever the latter is struggling to accomplish something that can’t be accomplished through normal means (“normal” to Secret at any rate).
• When Conker saw someone wearing a suspicious outfit from afar, he felt that something bad was going to happen to him again. The figure got closer and it turned out to be Secret, who was simply happy to meet up with another squirrel. Conker’s fears were mitigated somewhat by Secret’s friendly disposition, though learning about what he does for a living brought down Conker for a bit. He’s already gone through a bunch of ridiculous things throughout his adventures and the last thing he needs is to be a secret agent again considering how badly that endeavor ended for him. Secret having more success as a spy made Conker a bit jealous, but he couldn’t bring himself to truly hate Secret given how friendly the latter is. Despite Conker’s generally cynical attitude, Secret knows that Conker is capable of fighting and is considering helping him improve his skills (and personality if at all possible).
• Rumors began to spread that Secret is a flasher as a result of constantly carrying around a trenchcoat. He was rather annoyed with it given that he’s only trying to get something out to help him with his mission, but as the rumor grew, he was determined to find the source of it and stop the rumor from spreading. His work led him to find Ratatoskr and that squirrel was surprised to see another squirrel find out about his rumor-mongering. Secret was very annoyed that someone small and annoying creature like Ratatoskr was spreading rumors that besmirched Secret’s name. Although the flasher rumors subsided, it hasn’t prevented Ratatoskr from annoying Secret on occasion out of self-serving amusement.
• Nick Fury introduced Secret to another animal spy that would be serving as a partner of sorts for the squirrel. Perry the Platypus was quick to notice Secret’s eccentricities during their first mission together, but he finds the gadgets that Secret pulls out to be pretty useful whenever they’re in a tight spot. Through Perry, Secret got to meet Dr. Doofenshmirtz, who started off as Perry’s frenemy before truly becoming friends with each other. Secret was surprised to find a former arch-enemy of a spy become friends with them and was willing to take Doof’s word for it in regards to what he went through. Doof was even willing to provide Secret with inventions of his own, but the squirrel was fine with what he has stored in his trenchcoat (though Doof is still trying to figure out how Secret is able to store and get whatever’s necessary from there). Secret and Perry have since gone out on their own missions, with Doof providing some assistance whenever necessary.
• One of Secret’s missions involved him going after someone known only as The Spy. When Secret first met him, The Spy pretended to be someone who has sent to help Secret and the squirrel fell into The Spy’s trick. After The Spy betrayed him, Secret then sought out to finish the mission he was given and used his analysis machine to determine where The Spy was at. The Spy was noticeably much more difficult than many of Secret’s prior foes and while Secret was able to subdue The Spy, The Spy was clever enough to escape capture. Secret considers The Spy to be a significant problem given his devious nature and The Spy considers the squirrel to be little more than a silly nuisance.
• Given the wide variety of gadgets Secret has with him for his missions, a few have wondered who designs them and if it’s possible that Secret himself has come up with them. True to his name, Secret didn’t reveal who was responsible for his Gadgets, but he is more than welcome to letting some secret agents borrow them for a bit if they’re having trouble on some missions. After learning about a number of technicians and mechanics in the Pantheon, he has pondered for a bit if they can come up with some useful gizmos for him and other spies to use, but ultimately decided that he and his fellow spies were fine with what they were normally given for the most part.
• Secret ended up finding himself in a strange conflict when a white-clad spy approached him, thinking that an outfit like that would help out in outsmarting whatever a black-clad spy had in store. Secret went along with White Spy and witnessed what was going on after the White Spy was able temporarily outsmart Black Spy. While Secret was preparing to mind his own business on other matters, Black Spy (who Secret recognized from not long ago) wanted the squirrel’s help and he got pulled back into another complex scheme. A few encounters later, Secret felt that it was exhausting to get involved with constantly fighting spies with no end in sight and opted to try and ignore them. That said, it hasn’t worked out a number of times, though things tend to be better for him whenever Perry and Doof fight the two and the squirrel is eager to take their side rather than the monochrome spies.

• Demigoddess
• Symbol: Her Ear Notch
• Theme Music: My Lullaby; Lions Over All
• Alignment: Neutral Evil
• Portfolio: Contrasting Sequel Antagonist, Dark Action Girl, Avenging the Villain, Faux Affably Evil, Misplaced Retribution, Ax-Crazy, Lean and Mean, Mood-Swinger
• Domains: Lioness, Vengeance
• High Priest: Don Karnage
• Allies: Scar, Claudandus, Shere Khan, Sabor
• Enemies: Simba, Timon & Pumbaa, Aslan, good-aligned royalty
• Mixed Relations: Lady Macbeth
• Scar has never been what one would consider to be an effective leader of the Pride Lands after taking the spot for himself, but it hasn’t prevented him from having others who hold plenty of respect towards him. Zira falls in that category of admirers and ever since Scar got eaten to death by hyenas, she has been plotting revenge against Simba for apparently causing Scar’s downfall. She is part of the Outlanders, a group of outcasts in the Pride Lands and attempted to use Kovu to take what she believes was rightfully Scar’s. When that failed (and eventually leading to the rest of the Outlanders to side with Simba near the end of her scheme), Zira tried and failed to murder Simba, only to fall to her death in raging waters. No one knows why Zira has a notch on her ear, but it helps with her image of being an unhinged, vengeful lioness.
• One night in the Pantheon, some rough waters hit a river and with it, a seemingly unconscious lioness. Just as someone was about to examine the body, Zira growled rather tiredly, scaring off the person who was about to look at her. A few seconds later, Zira realized that she was still alive and took a bit of time to walk around the landscape at night. She then overheard a conversation related to Simba and quickly realized that not only was Simba still around, but it meant that Scar was alive. It became clear to her that she was going to finish what she had started and with her being in an unfamiliar location, it meant looking for additional friends to take down Simba and foes that stand in her way.
• While it’s not explicitly stated that she and Scar were married, many tend to assume that this was the case. All things considered, Zira and Scar are very close friends and he’s rather pleased to know that there is someone who is willing to support his plans. Zira is usually the one that comes up with the plans to help herself and Scar gain more power, with Scar generally stepping in whenever Zira’s plans don’t work out. Although they still haven’t gotten the power and leadership they desire, both remain determined to get payback on Simba and his friends.
• Despite The Hyenas directly killing Scar, Zira still remains adamant in getting revenge on Simba for thwarting Scar’s ambitions. Regardless, she has some disdain towards hyenas and in turn, a number of hyenas in the Pride Lands don’t like her. Shenzi, Banzai, and Ed weren’t fully aware of who Zira was at first, but after hearing about her ties to Scar (who the trio turned against), their dislike of her became rather pronounced and Zira isn’t above engaging the trio in a fight if they feel like attacking her.
• At the behest of Scar, Zira decided to meet Claudandus, who was familiar with Scar and is working with him. Zira was willing to say to him that she considers lions to be superior to all animals and Claudandus took it that she believes that all felines are superior. Zira responded that only those who follow her beliefs are better than all others, which went over with Claudandus’ goals of making felines the dominant species all-around very well. She’s willing to work with Claudandus’ project if it means letting lions become dominant all around the Pantheon, despite never meeting any humans beforehand to understand the full extent of his ambitions.
  • On the subject of other dangerous felines, she found out about Shere Khan and Sabor, a pair of other felines whom Scar is working with and she generally got along with them. Shere Khan’s strength and viciousness was something that Zira approved of and although she hasn’t been able to really talk to Sabor, she sees potential in the leopard. In the grand scheme of things, Scar leads over these felines, with Zira being his most devout supporter and Shere Khan and Sabor serving as strong attackers against their enemies.
• If there’s one other lion that Zira hates alongside Simba, it would be Aslan. Since Aslan opposed Scar on the grounds of forcefully usurping the Pride Lands from Mufasa much like how Aslan was forced to give up Narnia in the hands of The White Witch, Zira believed that anyone who opposes Scar deserves to be eliminated. That said, she really can’t engage in a direct fight against Aslan given how powerful he is, so all she can do is figure out some sort of plan that would let her have an advantage when the time for the two to fight does happen.
• As someone who’s devoted to an ambitious, but villainous figure, she ended up finding Lady Macbeth, who happened to care about her husband and supported his goals. Despite this, Lady Macbeth ended up seeing plenty of disturbing visions and had to deal with guilt, something that culminated in her committing suicide. Zira on the other hand, didn’t appear to harbor much, if any, regrets on what she was trying to do (especially since her plan was more for herself than the Outlanders in general) and remained driven to her goals even after drowning in water. The fact that Lady Macbeth had to deal with guilt was something that didn’t sit well with Zira and the lioness believes that Lady Macbeth should have been more proactive in trying to support her husband and his desire for power. On her end, Lady Macbeth saw in Zira a possibly darker version of herself in terms of personality.
• Zira’s persistent drive for revenge has unsettled a few heroic deities who have had to deal with revenge and later setting it aside when vengeance accomplished nothing. They find Zira to be frustrating to deal with given how she was so focused on her own goals and blinded by revenge that she alienated her own allies. She’s nothing more than convinced that some people just don’t want her and Scar to become leaders of the Pride Lands with what they’re saying and is determined to prove them wrong, especially those aforementioned deities.
• While looking for those who are willing to support her and Scar, Zira came across a section of the Pantheon dedicated to highlighting significant royal figures. It was there she learned about a number of royal figures, both good and evil, those who took position of king or queen fairly, and those who took the title by force and became self-serving tyrants. Zira couldn’t care less about actual benevolent royalty and she isn’t willing to talk about the other corrupt royal figures. All she’s focused on is ensuring that she and Scar are able to be powerful and respected (the latter basically being impossible given her selfishness) rulers and if they can’t take over the Pride Lands, they will find another land of animals to rule over.

Allies with Inspector Gadget since they both have the ability to pull things put of their clothings.

s for Gozer, Mrs. Puff, Chip Skylark, Secret Squirrel and Zira!

Gozer, that's 4

for Flashing Squirrel and Female Scar

@Squirrel and Lion: Can't really think of anything else so here.

Okay. New set of questions.

1. Besides the fellows I'm thinking of here, are there any other artists Relm would interact with? I don't think I'm gonna count Taki since it's just a hobby and he's more on landscapes.

2. What kind of Caretaker dynamic does Taiga Hanaya have with his patient Nico, and what's Dean Winchester's dynamic with his brother Sam? And what of Jo March with Beth?

3. Cyan is a samurai and his son who died in Doma is named Owain. Said son also vows to Cyan that he'll practice swordplay to protect his mother when he boards the phantom train to the afterlife. Fire Emblem Awakening introduces a character named Owain, he's a Myrmidon (a sword-wielding class excelling in skill and speed), and is also quite attached to his mother. I wonder what interaction could I write for them?

Edited by nightelf37 on Mar 11th 2020 at 11:14:21 PM

@r-lock:

Secret Squirrel and Zira are up.

for Gozer.

The third of the ningen haters have arrived

Zubat and Golbat, Unholy Colony of Perpetually Annoying Encounters (The Bat Pokémon)

• Demideities (Zubat) and Lesser Deities (Golbat)
• Returning To: Enemies
• s: 2 (Super WIKI 1, The Wikia Editor)

• Theme Song: Mt. Moon (Pokémon Red and Blue)
• Symbol: Their faces and open mouths
• Alignment: True Neutral
• Gender: Mixed
• Ability: Inner Focus
• Moves: Leech Life, Supersonic, Absorb, Bite, Wing Attack, and Confuse Ray, though trained variants have Mean Look, Poison Fang and Acrobatics
  • Z-Moves: Varies between Acid Downpour, Supersonic Skystrike, and Black Hole Eclipse depending on the Zubat/Golbat
• Portfolio: Deceptively Hard-to-Defeat Enemies, Cave-Dwelling Pokémon, Bats, Found In All Sorts of Locales, Flying-type, Poison-type, Draining HP With Leech Life And Absorb, Sound-Based Moves
  • Zubat: Eyeless Face, Meager Strength That Belies Its Potential, Small, Annoying Creature (yet still bigger than your average bat)
  • Golbat: Big Eater, Overly-Long Tongue, Evolving To Crobat Via High Happiness Levels
• Domains (Types): Bats, Annoyance, Poison
• Heralds: Tentacool, Wingull, Yungoos
• Followers: Fleamen, Future predators, and... bats. Lots and lots of other species of cave bats.
• Allies: Naka, Brock, Riku, Chuggaaconroy, the Bat Family, Gladion
  • Partner: Valvatorez
• Conflicting Opinions: Team Rocket, and all other villainous teams in the Pokémon World (lesser extent for Maxie, Archie, and Cyrus)
• Enemy: All Electric-type, Rock-type, and Psychic-type users
• Not to Be Confused With: Kaiketsu Zubat
• When it comes to aggravating Random Encounters that players hate facing (not for their difficulty, but for their annoyance to take down), none are more infamous than the Zubat evolutionary line. Absurdly high encounter rates, ludicrous speed, HP draining attacks, and Confusion-inducing moves make for a huge nuisance. And when Zubat become small fry, their evolutions Golbat pick up the slack with potent poisoning, escape prevention, and forced turn skipping by way of flinching. The only reason their final stage Crobat is not counted is because they're only encountered under trainers since Happiness is required to evolve them to that stage.
• Despite having their own temple/cave in the House of Gaming, they can be found in caves all over the Pantheon, often getting into competition with other cave-dwelling bats and expies of such.
• Through capture, training and The Power of Friendship, Zubat can one day gain great power to aid in the battle against evil. It was stuck in the Villains house before the opening of the Gaming house just because how it annoys many Pokémon trainers in their quest to attain heroism. Doesn't help that Zubat is the most common Pokémon among the grunts of the Pokémon world's villainous teams.
  • But before that, Zubat must become an even more annoying bat.
• The smarter ones in their colony avoid those with electric or psychic powers given they have a Type weakness to them.
• Of all gods to make friends with Zubat was Chuggaaconroy, who captured Zubat and evolved it into a Crobat that he calls…Acrobat.
  • Brock has also shown that he has captured a Zubat (which also evolved into Crobat) in the past, so at least they have trusted company now.
  • Riku has given a hint that whenever his Komory Bat is in the Pokémon world, it takes on the form of a Crobat.
• While not having any particulars, the Zubat and Golbat are occasional aid for the Bat family whenever they call up for bats to harass the enemy. And boy are they good at it.
• While a popular Pokémon used by the villainous teams, they have no real opinions on some of the leaders (or the Rocket trio), as they have none of their own in their parties. Actually, their is disdain for Ghetsis because he's that despicable. There's a bit more respect for Maxie, Archie, and Cyrus given they own Golbats that eventually evolved into Crobats.

Vincent Brooks, God of Climbing to Survive (Man Drinking Alone, The Man of Legends)

• Quasideity (Demigod in his Nightmares, Greater God in the True Cheater Ending)
• s: 2 (The Wikia Editor, kingvideogames)
• Symbol: Pillow and pink polka-dot boxer
• Theme Song: Also Sprach Brooks
• Alignment: True Neutral (remains so or shifts to Neutral Good in the Neutral/Freedom/Rin's Ending, shifts to Lawful Good at the Commitment Ending, and shifts to Chaotic Neutral at the Cheater Ending)
• Portfolio: The Everyman, Wears Underwear in His Nightmare, Jaw Drops Much of His Life, Determined to Survive in his Nightmare, Choice of Commitment or Freedom or Something Else, Terrible Liar, Nice Guy, Grew a Spine, Large Ham, Helping Others With The Same Struggle As He, Happily Married (potentially)
  • True Cheater Ending: Taking Over The Netherworld, Evil Overlord, Power is Sexy, Sex God
• Domains: Climbing, Survival, Relationship
• Heralds: Katherine McBride, Catherine, and Qatherine/"Rin"/Ydoblluf Enirehtaq (his Love Interest options)
• Allies: Homer Simpson, Moe, Harth Stonebrew, Ysera, NiGHTS
• Enemies: Bane, Junko Enoshima, The High Sparrow
• Cautious Around: All succubi in general, Darkrai, Lucifer
• Opposed by: Poland
• Vincent Brooks is a thirty-two year old in a relationship with his girlfriend, Katherine McBride, but was too indecisive in regards to marriage. When the enigmatic beauty named Catherine appeared in his life, everything is dragged into a nightmare. Literally, he is trapped in a nightmare where he must climb to the top in order to survive or else he will die in the real world.
• Due to the nature of Multiple Endings, this Vincent is one of nine potential versions of his future, selected by an unidentified deity. In four of them, he doesn't get either the succubus Catherine or his old girlfriend Katherine McBride, two where it's by his own choice, two in where the girl he chose turns him down but at least he is now free to get his life back on track. In two, he lives in the Netherworld with Catherine, and in one of those, he took it over from her bumbling father. In two others, he makes it up to Katherine, and in one of them they shortly marry. The Vincent that came is the one where he doesn't pick either girl and pursues his dreams of space tourism, after which he was invited to the Pantheon.
  • However, things became murkier with the reveal of the Full Body story, which showed a new Love Interest (Qathe)Rin(e), and more endings, like one where he goes back in time with Catherine and they start over from there until they eventually marry (with Catherine living the human life), one where Katherine breaks up with him but is able to get a better life (as a model) and convinces Vincent to do the same, and two where he goes for the new love interest Rin instead and either he leaves to find himself and help others with his powers before he and Vincent eventually come back together or they swiftly marry in a few months and hold a space tour (with Vincent becoming a producer and Rin soaring in his pianist career).
  • This question was sort-of answered when his heralds arrived, and it proved to be a brief nightmare; the three (K/C/Q)atherines he had to choose between were all picked, resulting in a brief Cat Fight started by the succubus on the crossdressing angel/alien that Brooks and McBride had to break up. As it turns out, each of the girls came from the extra Full Body endings, which is why Katherine didn't partake in the Cat Fight; she has since moved on from Vincent in her ending. As a result of the Cat Fight however, it is now known that Rin is a boy as well as an extraterrestrial and that Catherine was the one tempting Vincent when he thought he was cheating. A representative from the Court of the Gods eventually stepped in and made arrangements.
• After clearing things up and seeing what can be done to avoid another fight, he was approached by Issei Hyodo, who has experience with handling a harem, and he and his companions helped with finding a good compromise that even Catherine can agree to. -what to be done here?-
• He recognized Makoto Yuki as that kid he met in Club Escapade at Paulownia Mall. When they first met, he told him that his story will probably have nothing to do with Makoto's problems. And then he heard of the Dark Hour S.E.E.S. operated in.
  • Having confronted his Shadow back in his nightmares before, Vincent decided doing so again in the TV World wouldn't be a bad idea. Makoto volunteered to escort him (along with a few of his S.E.E.S. friends) Getting a Persona out of the deal seems to be pretty sweet, and thanks to his encounter with Makoto, he's able to use it outside, too.
• Even though she sees potential in him, Kyu decided to respectfully back off from taking him in as a client. With what he's been through, he's probably not ready. It doesn't help that in some of his endings, he's already happily married, and it's in her rules not to go after such people, no matter the gender of the couple.
• Due to his experience with Catherine, who is revealed to be a succubus, he doesn't like to be near others like Morrigan and Lilith Aensland. Catherine is enough, thank you very much.
• Hideri Kanzaki, Bridget, and Astolfo do remind him of Rin's situation, all being cute crossdressing boys.
• Princess Cadance pities him for the hell he had to endure, and plans to tear Thomas Mutton a new one for putting him and many others through such a trying ordeal, even if it's to continue population growth by weeding out cheaters.
• Because he endured in The Great Trials in his Nightmares for a week, he doesn't like those who bring nightmares which could force him back in if they had the power. He seeks the help of some dream deities that could help him sleep well just in case these Nightmares could be recreated in the Pantheon.
  • He doesn't enjoy being in Darkrai's company, since he can cause bad dreams. This guy needs a supply of Lunar Wings. Though, Bane enjoyed making an illusion of his Nightmares when he is put to sleep by him.
  • Though Luna would help with his dreams, if she sees that he is going to start another relationship problem, especially with Rin and Catherine, she might restore the Nightmare again just to teach him a lesson.
• He is usually seen drinking at the House of Food. He befriended Homer as his drinking buddy, and thinks Moe is alright considering how his old bartender, The Boss, essentially started his Nightmares and was his final obstacle.
• He once played an arcade game based on Rapunzel in which is similar to his Nightmares. He told both Rapunzel and Flynn Rider that he hoped that their marriage lasts forever.
• He meets with those experienced with tarot cards who tells him about how his trials were similar to the story of the Lovers Arcana. He was put on a crossroad where he choose either a young romantic woman who represents Catherine or an older wise woman who represents Katherine. Of course, he could take another path if he wanted to and he took it.
• He doesn't usually speak to high school students, but he feels very uncomfortable when speaking with the Yukari Takeba and Rise Kujikawa since the two sound too much like K/Catherine, it's both confusing and disturbing. Ironically, both of these girls represent the Lovers Arcana.
  • Another he avoids is Ann Takamaki, mainly since she's reminiscent of Catherine appearance-wise (and has even dressed as her on occasion). Incidentally, just like the above two, she's also of the Lovers Arcana.
• Despite K/Catherine being a common name, whenever ladies with that name ascend he's never sure if it's either McBride or the succubus. With the women named Catherine Kyoubashi and Katherine Anne Pryde, he realized that he was gladly mistaken.
• Despite his complicated situation, he openly respects those that got married since they made a choice on commitment. Though he is in no position to oppose cheating, since he either was trapped in it or embraced it, he hoped that they don't suffer through the Nightmare he faced, depending on how bad they are.
  • He doesn't appreciate Makoto Itou for actively cheating on people. In fact, he was very nervous and even frightened of the love triangle the kid got himself into. Though he isn't old enough, he hoped that he doesn't have to suffer through the same thing he faced in his nightmares.
  • He doesn't know how he feels about the love goddess Aphrodite, who is known to have multiple lovers.
  • Ironically, he doesn't know how he feels about harems since it's not technically cheating when there are multiple partners holding interest in one person. Though Issei Hyodo is shown to have the most stable harem as in the future, all the girls have a child with him and are in a happy family.
    • It is worth noting that Lucifer "respects" him for that one timeline where he became the new Lord of the Underworld and got himself a harem of demonesses, spending million of maccas (currency) for his honeymoon with said demon harem to compensate for what his friend Ishtar (or rather her human guise Trisha) put him through. Vincent isn't sure what to say about this.
  • He pitied both Korra and Asami when they dated Mako as he cheated on both with each other, although he's surprised that they became a couple with each other instead.
• Whether or not he's actually chose Rin, the fact that he's not a strict homosexual has earned him the enmity of heterosexists such as Junko Enoshima, The High Sparrow, and Poland.

I checked the Firearms subhouse and saw that Mana Tatsumiya has 2 tropes: Bizarre and Improbable Ballistics and Unorthodox Reload. Which trope is better to remove and which to keep? In my opinion, Bizarre and Improbable Ballistics could be freed.

Oh and she has alot of outdated info, referencing stuff like the Great Upheaval.

To counter that, majority of Metal Gear are heavily outdated and short

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Mar 11th 2020 at 11:22:44 AM

Since the list idea fell flatter than a pancake, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Otacon. Enemies lackluster, outdated, needs a minor rework.

Edited by MrDuckington on Mar 11th 2020 at 2:19:54 PM

While I don't recall what the situation is for having two Tropes, might as well mention that Carmen Sandiego has three.

First louisent31 for Tomorrowland.

Secondly I have three new nominations.

Lucien Fairfax, Master of the Evil Tower of Ominousness (The Tattered Spire)

• An Obviously Evil tower, that was made by the labor and blood of slaves. Filled with mind controlled guards (assuming they weren't already evil) and Elite Evil Minions that barely count as human anymore. When you first enter it, an NCP will mention how fundamentally wrong the tower itself feels. The tower is a Star Scraper when fully completed and is built to Make a Wish, by gathering all the magical energy in the world to a single location. The first time it was built, it actually destroyed all of civilization, It also acts as a bridge between the Normal World and the Void. The home/prison of the The Corrupter. The Third game has an Evil Weapon called the "Shardborne". A sword forged by a shard (which are implied to be shards of the Spire itself) and is literally described to "emit pure evil". And you upgrade the weapon by doing immoral actions.

(BlazBlue) Izanami, Goddess of Being Tortured Makes You Evil

• This is a really heavy spoiler just so everyone knows so... Izanami is in fact Saya herself. While originally an innocent little girl, the Cold-Blooded Torture that she suffered through both Hazama's and Relius Clover's hands were so bad, it literally broke her soul. One stayed as The Master Unit, the other became Noel, and the last one became Izanami. Torture literally created Izanami.

Steve Rogers/Hydra Supreme, God of Evil Doppelgänger

• Thanks to the manipulations of the Red Skull, using the sentient Cosmic Cube Kobik, there was a Cosmic Retcon in where Captain America/Steve Rogers was a HYDRA agent. By all accounts this is Steve Rogers, but with history rewritten to be that he was also a member of HYDRA since childhood. This doppelganger is everything that Steve Rogers hates, an evil, racist, hypocritical, manipulative, Nazi. He's everything Captain America isn't, and everything he fears he could ever become.

I know that Albedo has Evil Doppelgänger and that Renekton has Being Tortured Makes You Evil. But Renekton also has The Dark Side Will Make You Forget and is also in need of a rework. And Albedo also has an admittedly poor profile, and would probably would have been cut later on.

Edited by AzureLegacy on Mar 12th 2020 at 3:16:37 PM

Done. I will be taking a semi-retirement from the forum and will not be active for the next three to four days. Expect me only to communicate via speechless s and profile submissions.

s: 4 (Crimson, louisent, Clovis, Fasoman)

Election mode

Takagi and Nishikata, Divine Couple of The Girlfriend Tricking the Boyfriend (Takagi: The Teasing Master, The Legendary Forehead)

^{As adults with their daughter Chi} 

• Potential House: Love Interests
• Quasideities (Nishikata is a Demigod as an adult)
• Symbol: Any shot of them messing with each other
• Theme Song: "I Didn't Say That", "Zero Centimeters"
• Alignment: Neutral Good
• Portfolio:
  • Both: Their Relationship Relies On Teasing, Happily Married, Doting Parents, Known Only By Their Last Names, Only Have Eyes For Each Other... Even Though They Don't Admit It At First, Sitcom Archnemeses
  • Takagi only: Awesomeness by Analysis, Likes Nishikata Because He Returned a Handkerchief To Her At the Expense of his Punctuality, Brainy Brunette, Coy, Girlish Flirt Pose, Teases Nishikata Because It Amuses Her, Moral Pragmatist, Nerves of Steel, Smitten Teenage Girl, The Tease
  • Nishikata only: Bad Liar, Oddly Enjoys Being Teased By Takagi, Cool Teacher as an Adult, Determinator, Often Hoist by His Own Petard, Wants To Be A Real Man, Kindhearted Cat Lover, Drinks Coffee to Look Mature, Enjoys Romance Manga
• Domains: Love, Teasing, Tricks, Rivalry, Games
• Herald: 'Chi' Nishikata (their daughter)
• Sitcom Archnemesis: Each other, even after marriage
• Allies: Dipper and Mabel Pines, Conan Edogawa, Kousei Arima and Kaori Miyazono, the Eva pilots, Gentaro Kisaragi and the Kamen Rider Club, Kirito and Asuna, Shino Asada, Suguha Kirigaya, the Mane Six (especially Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy), the Equestria Girls, Rei Miyamato, Mikasa Ackerman
  • Takagi: The GUAG Lol Ranger Team (especially Mion, Shion and Satoko), Peni Parker, Ai Haibara, Pacifica Northwest, Chito and Yuuri, Kazuma's Party (Megumin in particular)
  • Nishikata: Aichi Sendou^note and Team Q4 by association, Keiichi Maebara, Gohan, Scott Pilgrim, Kanji Tatsumi, the good-aligned House of School deities
• Odd Friendship: Issei Hyodo (Nishikata)
• Commonality Connection with: Ciel Kirahoshi/Cure Parfait, Haru Okumura, Dib Membrane (for their large foreheads)
• On Speaking Terms with: Most ordinary parents in the Pantheon
• Enemies: No direct ones so far as they don't like to antagonize people and haven't run into any trouble so far. The GUAE, GUAC and GUAD count to an extent, though Yuuki Terumi could count as Takagi's Evil Counterpart
• Respect: Phoenix Wright (Nishikata only)
• Respected by: As is by tradition, the rest of the House of Love, Kaito Kid (Takagi only, for her excellent poker face)
• Oppose: Eren Yeager, Miss Trunchbull
• Pities: Rika Furude
• Annoyed by: Bully hunters like Naughty Bear and Jimmy Hopkins (Takagi only), Mr. Mxyzptlk, The Goose (Nishikata only)
• Conflicting Opinion: "Speed-O'-Sound" Sonic (Nishikata only)
• The titular character of her universe, Takagi (no first name given) first met Nishikata on his first day of middle school and was touched because he went out of his way to get her lost handkerchief back to lost-and-found knowing it would get him in trouble for being late on their first day of middle school. From then on she would have a crush on him for years. How did she express her love? Through teasing. From the moment they were assigned to sit next to each other in class, both Takagi and Nishikata would pull pranks on or challenge each other to little games for the sole purpose of embarrassing each other, with Takagi always coming out on top. Like most cases, Nishikata only ever saw these pranks as annoyances. Most people could see that there was a close relationship forming between them both, especially since they both share similar interests and a competitive spirit. Nishikata would only fully catch on in their third year and invite her on a 'date' to the town summer festival.
• Their entry into the Pantheon came courtesy of another challenge set by Nishikata: walk into the abandoned highway tunnel without getting scared. They had already gone through this test of courage in their teenage years but Takagi chose to humour him and do it anyway. What was supposed to be an ordinary game turned extraordinary when they stepped into the tunnel as adults and came out as their in-series teenage selves. Nishikata had received via text message from his friends Takao and Kimura a seemingly genuine video of a purple and orange ghost in the tunnel and wanted to see for himself but was too scared to investigate further. He invited his wife along under the pretence of a game. Mr. Mxyzptlk had been using the highway tunnel to mess about^note meaning that he'd be able to do whatever he liked compared to the DC Universe. After unsuccessfully heading them off, he brought them to the 'police station' for help. What was originally a fiasco on his part ended up becoming two ascensions to the Pantheon and the fifth-dimensional losing a world where he could operate freely (and a fine).
  • Serving as their herald is their daughter, who goes by the nickname 'Chi' and currently attends school in their world. Chi is currently having her own Spin-Off adventure with a boy of her own who isn't nearly as easily flustered as Nishikata.
• Even as adults, Takagi continues to prank and tease her husband especially when Chi's around, with Nishikata continuing to lose miserably in her games. Many in the House of Love enjoy seeing their antics and one deity even made a special set of tarot cards for their anniversary, with Takagi as "The Teaser" and Nishikata as "The Teased". Takagi giggled at being given the anonymous gift while Nishikata just grimaced.
• Takagi wears her titular moniker of 'Teasing Master' with pride and even commissioned T-shirts with the Teasing Master label (including a shirt with a drawing of both her and Nishikata fighting in a wrestling ring) to be sold in their House. When Nishikata found out, she and next-door neighbour Yumina lied that Mr. Mxyzptlk had staged the publicity stunt as a malicious prank on them both. Nishikata stormed into Dressed for Divinity to confront Rarity for 'conspiring' with Mxyzptlk. It turned out all of them were in on the joke^note yes, Takagi is cool with Mxyzptlk for the whole ascension mess and as always, everyone in the store laughed at him. Here's the aftermath:
  Takagi: I just wanted to see how much you love me. And guess what? You passed, Nishikata.
  Nishikata: Yokatta. So now, you're going to stop this whole 'selling shirts' thing right?
  Takagi: HA HA HA—No.
• Nishikata's first birthday party in the Pantheon was organized jointly by Keiichi Maebara (see below) and Pinkie Pie with some support from Fluttershy. Fluttershy became friends with Takagi after both teamed up to save a stray cat that was stuck in a really high pine tree in the House of Nature. Both ponies remind Takagi and Nishikata of their classmates Mina Hibino and Yukari Amakawa, probably contributing to the fact that Nishikata loved the party. In fact, Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy are reportedly planning for their wedding anniversary which they promise will be a lot more 'pizzazy' than Nishikata's party.
• Exclusive to Takagi:
  • Nothing seems to faze her. At least on the surface anyway. For all of her teasing, she is easily reduced to a Smitten Teenage Girl only when Nishikata is out of sight, thanks to an excellent Poker Face. To even blush and squirm in his presence would indicate losing to him in a challenge, something she doesn't want at all. This demeanour has carried over to the Pantheon, and she's repeatedly voiced that she's not really bothered about the fact that she's fictional and comes from a rom-com centered around her relationship with Nishikata. The same goes for her large Forehead of Doom which she's even less concerned about (she sympathizes with deities who have them though).
  Takagi: Besides, to everyone except Nishikata my crush wasn't really a secret, was it?
  • Her first friend in the Pantheon was Mion Sonozaki, who she met at a manga convention accompanying Nishikata in the House of Craft (she was there as the GUAG Lol Rangers were being paid to help out). Both bonded over their love of teasing their friends (especially Keiichi), though Mion concedes that Takagi is much better at it than she is. Mion introduced her to her twin sister Shion and their friends Satoko, teasing in their own ways. It was at this convention that Takagi would become their eighth member, Brown Ranger. Takagi mostly treats it as a club rather than a fighting force since she's busy being taking care of Chi. However, she's made it abundantly clear that she despises the GUAE on principle, especially Yuuki Terumi and the Trollkaiger.
  • Takagi knows her crush/husband so well that at one point or another, she's used his own interests and pet peeves to tease him. Her teasing isn't at all malicious in nature, at most only getting Nishikata in trouble with Tanabe-sensei, and she really hates those who insult or prank people for corrupt or duplicitous purposes especially when they know it genuinely hurts the victim. Some in the Pantheon who don't know better seem to miss the fact that it's teasing, especially bully hunters like Naughty Bear and Jimmy Hopkins. Both gave her a good scare before realizing that Nishikata liked being teased by her and apologized for their behaviour.
  • While she doesn't specialize in anything extraordinary, she does have skills as a housewife and enjoys visiting families like the Simpsons, the Wattersons and the Flintstones for amusing conversations or a nice cup of bancha tea. The one time she took care of Peni Parker's temple while she was out in the House of Technology gave her some experience in fixing things, when she happened to be passing by. Peni appeared to be late for something there and just threw her temple keys at Takagi in desperation. She just shrugged and sat inside the room housing her SP//dr armor and even wiped some grease stains off because of 'itchy fingers'. Peni apologized on her return and both have become friends since because of the happy accident. First-voice-impression apparently had nothing to do with it, because both were speaking English to each other.
  • Some think Takagi has a bad relationship with her mother. She just tells those people to stop over-analyzing one of twenty-four episodes of her anime and get on with their lives.
• Exclusive to Nishikata:
  • A Determinator because of his ambitions to one-up Takagi^note never guessing that he had already done that for a long time, Nishikata does push-ups for every time Takagi successfully teases him. This eventually made him seriously ripped and many have commented on the irony that he's now a Chick Magnet because of his now wife's efforts. Regardless, he also serves as a gym instructor in the Elysium Academy where his wife frequently visits, much to his chagrin and his class's delight.
  • Friends with Mion and Shion's frequent target of abuse Keiichi Maebara. Keiichi is prone to putting the easily flustered Nishikata into intense social situations whether he likes it or not, like his first birthday party in the Pantheon held in a budget room in the House of Celebration. Funnily enough, Nishikata made his first friends there, most of them sharing his voice actor. Keiichi invited them personally just so Nishikata would notice their voices, knowing that otherwise he would only befriend ordinary deities. Keiicji and Mion Hooked Up Afterwrds.
  • Frequently has brushes with Gohan in the House of School staffroom since he's an apprentice scholar there. Like with Chi-Chi and Goku, Nishikata is awed at how normally Videl treats her marriage to one of the most powerful beings in the world and at how Gohan is different intellectually from his father. If Nishikata is with Gohan, they can be seen splurging on miso ramen at the stall around the corner.
  • When he was a teenager, he struggled to look mature in front of Takagi to ward her off from teasing him, but it didn't take, since he can't stand coffee. He still can't stand it as an adult but makes semi-regular trips to other coffee shops in the Pantheon to find one that won't make him gag. Kanji Tatsumi became allies with him at one of these shops, both bonding after discovering they had troubles with suppressing feminine interests, since Nishikata is a huge fan of a romance series titled "100% Unrequited Love".
  • Is easily annoyed or flustered by a lot of things, from being teased about his relationship with Takagi or any of his eccentricities, with many enjoying the way he blushes when embarrassed. Mr. Mxyzptlk was in on the whole 'publicity stunt' and the Indie Gaming Brotherhood's unwanted sixth ranger the Goose once pecked him to oblivion during a remedial gym session in the Academy.
  • Some have asked if Nishikata's ever been in an Unwanted Harem off-screen, what with his class's most attractive girl being attracted to him and all. Nishikata has retorted with a negative on that one, and was very vocal about not wanting several girls to be in a relationship with him at once. This attracted the attention of one Issei Hyodo who openly mocked Nishikata for his views. He later admitted that he didn't actually hate Nishikata for it, but when he heard the news he happened to be in a rotten mood. He would later take Nishikata to see Rias and his harem of girlfriends. Since then the two have been buddies for reasons largely unknown, owing to the fact that their spat was highly publicized.

Takagi: Your expression is priceless.

Nishikata: ...

Takagi: Moreover, you acted exactly how you thought you would. That's why I won't stop teasing you, Nishikata.

Nishikata: Just wait! Someday I'm gonna get you for sure...!!

Takagi: I'll be looking forward to it!

. A in return?

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Mar 12th 2020 at 9:58:34 PM

Mrs Puff and Chip Skylark are up. What more to do with Eggman Nega?

Doctor Eggman Nega, God of Doppelganger Descendants (Dr Nega)

• Votes: 2(kingvideogames, The Wikia Editor)
• House: Offsprings (House of Family)
• Lesser God
• Symbol: His camera and shades
• Theme Song: Wrapped In Black
• Alignment: Chaotic Evil
• Portfolio: Palette Swap and Identical Grandson First Introduced As An Alternate Self, Eggman Without Redeeming Features, Eerily Polite Mad Scientist, White 'Stache, Blacker Heart, Cool Shades, Make Wrong What Once Went Right, Wishes To Create "A Glorious Age Of Fear and Chaos" And Maybe Destroy The World, The Sociopath, Evil Genius
• Domains: Time Travel, Psychosis, Chaos, Genius, Mad Science, Descendants
• Heralds: Captain Whisker and Metal Sonic 3.0
• Complicated relationship with: His ancestor Dr Ivo 'Eggman' Robotnik (usually enemies, but sometimes Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with)
• Allies: Bowser and Bowser Jr, Mephiles the Dark, Dimentio, Lord Drakkon, Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash, Surtr, Brand, Kefka Palazzo, Dark Danny, 2012 Boris, Porky Minch
• Headbutting Villains: Infinite
• Respects: Gerald Robotnik (his ancestor, does not reciprocate)
• Enemies: Most Sonic the Hedgehog deities (Sonic the Hedgehog, Blaze the Cat and Silver the Hedgehog are at the top of the list), The Pantheonic Time Police, Flame Princess, Felonius Gru, The SCP Foundation, Clockwork, Danny Fenton
• Asides from Dr Eggman and those associated with the Eggman Empire, there aren't many recurring unreformed villains(game continuity at least). One of those is his apparent doppelganger, Doctor Eggman Nega(real name unknown). Introduced as his Sol Dimension counterpart, he is in fact his descendant from 200 years in the future, and as much Silver' enemy as Blaze's. While Eggman is comical and brash yet has a softer side, Eggman Nega is an eerily polite yet rather unstable character.
• Initially he was an ally of Eggman during his time in the Sol Dimension, though the good doctor still found him unstable. Now he's actively working against him, as he feels his genius was never respected due to Eggman being the bad egg of a line of brilliant minds. Shadow thinks he is merely using his ancestor as an excuse to avoid taking responsibility for his own faults. However, he is willing to work with his Sonic the Comic incarnation, for a) not being his ancestor and b) being as crazy as him.
• It's yet to be officially explained why Eggman Nega seems to be a fixture of the Sol Dimension but comes from the future. When asked, Nega replied "apologies, but I feel a bit insulted that you'd imply a mind so brilliant as to have mastered time travel couldn't also develop the ability to travel to other universes". The idea he can travel to other universes is supported as "Dr Nega" has been at war with the Zone Cops.
• He does respect Dr Gerald for being an honor to the Robotnik family, however following Maria Robotnik ascending Gerald rightfully considers him a lot worse than Eggman. Nega wishes she didn't since his madness-induced omnicidal mania would aid him. Given his destructive ambitions, Eggman Nega has sought out Mephiles the Dark. He has offered a position for Infinite in part to spite his ancestor, though neither trust each other.
• He and Eggman are different people, but as he takes after him a lot Eggman Nega does understand when people are frustrated with their alternate selves, such as Lord Drakkon, Dark Danny, and Boris the Animal. That, and they are rather unhinged. He likes the 2012 Boris over his 1969 self because like that Boris, he blames someone before him for his own failures.
• Given he exists, some have wondered if and how Dr Eggman had children, and whether Eggman Nega's antagonism towards him constitute a Temporal Paradox. Some even wonder if Egette is his ancestor. Which, given he's tried to turn the world of his relative past into a card and a fiery hellscape through the Ifrit, probably wouldn't matter. He's been labelled an enemy of the Pantheonic Time Police because of this.
• Nega's more serious allies are Porky Minch and Eobard Thawne. When it comes to abusing time travel for your own benefit, he absolutely agrees in doing so and likes their selfish irreverence for history. The Reverse Flash is someone he values for his intellect, and King Porky the dystopia he brings. Sure, Nega does have a plan, but he gets a kick out of chaos and destruction anyway.
• While Eggman simply prefers to rule the world, Eggman Nega, in his own words, to bring about an age of fear and chaos. Despite his facade of politeness, he's a lot more unstable than his ancestor. As such, he has allied himself with Dimentio and Kefka so he may create and rule over worlds and bring about the chaos and destruction the two indulge in. It's another reason why he gets along with Mephiles, particularly because there's little difference between Iblis and the Ifrit Eggman Nega tried to release upon the world.
• Because outside of his clothes he looks just like an older Eggman, he's easily able to disguise himself as such. When outright opposing his ancestor, he first used a camera to turn people into cards, and then release the Ifrit lava monster. He has attempted to capture and experiment on SCP-105 to replicate the first effort, and has sided with Surtr and Brand to replicate the second. He also wants to kidnap Flame Princess for her potential to burn the world, and in part for reminding him of Blaze.
• Last seen trapped in the Ifrit's dimension, though given he had recovered from being turned into a card he'll probably escape. At the very least, he's shown participating in Olympic Games. For once he is on good terms with Dr Eggman, even if he's still embarrassed at him. As evil as he is, Nega is fine working with Bowser and being partnered with Bowser Jr. Even he likes physical participation, and in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics he proves skilled at karate.

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I believe three tropes are the max.

Superwiki:

Oh yeah, on Evil Doppelgänger, i think Lock wanted to use it for Negaduck.

@ Super WIKI:

Speaking of Darkwing Duck, could Steelbeak, one of the agents of FOWL, get Cocky Rooster? What do you think?

Edited by BirdAracuan on Mar 12th 2020 at 5:10:01 AM