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Ellen, you're just Digging Yourself Deeper.

Chidi: So, your job was to defraud the elderly? Sorry, the sick and elderly.
Eleanor: But I was very good at it! I was the top salesperson five years running!
Chidi: Okay, but that's worse. I mean, you... you do get how that's worse, right?

A character is widely distrusted, or maybe even actively disliked, by everyone else in the plot. Even though they're always innocent, this person is blamed for things that they didn't do and is often the first suspect when something bad does happen.

Unfortunately, rather than make an effort to convince people of their innocence and good intentions, the character rebels and acts out, sometimes feeling they have nothing to lose by doing so; maybe even committing an actual crime in the process. When people discover the crime, that confirms their suspicions and "proves" to them that, yes, this person was really that bad all along.

For added ironic flavor, the newly-criminal character may be busted just as the others come around and start to believe their original claim — giving the cynic of the group something to snark about — "Well, I guess you're right, chumps, they really aren't a thief... they're just a graverobber."

Compare I Resemble That Remark!, though it can go hand-in-hand with this trope. Somewhat related are You Have to Believe Me! (a character makes bizarre statements in a hysterical tone), Digging Yourself Deeper (the character tries to sound less creepy by justifying the original creepy remark), Then Let Me Be Evil (the character decides to live down to people's low expectations) and Sticky Fingers (habitual petty theft puts the character under a constant aura of suspicion). Contrast with Wrongful Accusation Insurance, where the character is not implicated for crimes committed while trying to clear their name. The tropes may overlap, though, if the character is called out for their crimes as they happen, yet unceremoniously pardoned after their name is cleared. Not to be confused with Don't Shoot the Message. For moments where someone or something else doesn't help your case, see Contrived Coincidence and Instantly Proven Wrong.


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    Anime & Manga 
  • DARLING in the FRANXX: Hiro in episode 8 trying to console the girls, embarrassed at Clothing Damage to themselves, by quoting one of Zero Two's lines to him in an earlier episode that a pilot is "better off being a little pervy". (The series' Super Robots basically run on The Power of Love.)
  • Digimon Adventure tri.: With Fantastic Racism against Digimon running rampant, Mimi, determined to prove to the world that not all Digimon are bad, impulsively jumps into a fight with a rampaging Ogremon alone in front of the press. Unfortunately, Togemon ends up shooting down a news helicopter during the battle, which naturally only makes the public's opinion of Digimon even worse.
  • Dragon Ball Super has Goku in the Universe Survival Arc. While he didn't know Zen'O's planned multiversal Tournament of Power would lead to all losing universes being destroyed, his nonchalant attitude upon learning the real stakes leads to other universes declaring him to be some ultimate evil, while he doesn't seem to understand why they're fearful and angry and just wants to fight. His response to Toppo calling him out on this only makes it worse.
    Goku: So I'm evil, huh? *grins*
  • The Butt-Monkey of Genshiken, Kuchiki, is a shameless, perverted otaku who acts up at every occasion. At the culture festival, he spots someone nicking a cosplay costume of Ohno's; he gives chase and catches the thief, who throws the dress at him and walks off in disgust. Then the girls find him clutching the costume and accuse him of stealing it. Kuchiki pulls his trousers down, clambers into the dress and run-waddles off, jeans 'round ankles and hairy legs a-showin'.
  • This trope sort of crosses over with I Resemble That Remark! in Lucky Star where Konata's father insists that it's wrong to call him a paedophile because he likes both young girls and normal girls, so it's more correct to say that he's "also a lolicon"...really didn't help his case.
    Konata: You fail at life either way.
  • In Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, aspiring wizard Shouta attempts to summon a demon as a Familiar, but gets Lucoa, who agrees to be his familiar. Shouta thinks that she's a succubus. Lucoa tries to correct him that she's a dragon in human form, but he won't believe her because she keeps shamelessly wearing revealing clothes (if even that much) and trying to seduce him.
  • Monster: Dr. Kenzou Tenma. Dear Lord. Not as extreme as most of these examples, but it's easier to count the moments when he isn't acting incredibly suspicious. Granted, Tenma was less interested in proving his own innocence than in helping others, performing selfless acts... and trying to bring down a man who may well be the very embodiment of evil itself (and the one who is actually behind the crimes he's accused of).
  • The Uchiha Clan's downfall in Naruto was mostly due to a big case of this. After Kurama's rampage at the beginning of the series there were suspicions that the Uchihas were responsible for it (and as it turned out, it was an Uchiha behind it, albeit one believed long dead). When it became clear that nobody in Konoha trusted the Uchihas, rather than proving them wrong, they plan to stage a coup to take over the village by force. Naturally, this ensured that the higher-ups would have the groundwork to order Itachi to kill them off, since their reaction pretty much screamed "guilty" all over.
  • Sonic X: During the Egg Moon saga, Sonic goes about destroying Eggman's Sunshine Balls, which he's using to provide the populace with artificial sunlight after his Egg Moon supposedly malfunctioned and created a permanent eclipse, and ends up making himself a Hero with Bad Publicity in the process. While it turns out he was right to do so (Eggman was in fact deliberately controlling the Egg Moon to keep blocking the sun in order to sell the Sunshine Balls as part of a get-rich-quick scheme and to make himself a Villain with Good Publicity), he still doesn't bother telling anyone this before he starts smashing the towers, and only does so after he gets tired of fighting the combined forces of Knuckles and G.U.N., something Knuckles calls him out on; Sonic simply retorts that he thought it was obvious.
  • Torako, Anmari Kowashicha Dame da yo: Torako's introduction to her new class is marred by students asking about rumored acts of carnage she would just as soon keep quiet. Flat denials may have worked, since they were so unbelievable. Boasting likely would have worked, given Torako's class is in a Dustbin School full of delinquents. Embarrassed efforts to explain and downplay them ("I heard you knocked down a building barehanded!" "I-it was old! And structurally unsound!")? Did not work. It only earned Torako annoyance and ire until it became clear she really was as strong as rumors suggested.
  • Usotsuki Satsuki wa Shi ga Mieru: Satsuki is disliked by just about everyone thanks to her habit of screaming in people's faces that they're going to die within the next 24 hours, but yet no one ever does, painting her as a strange pathological liar. Of course, she's telling the truth, as she can see their future corpses; the reason they don't die is because she goes out of her way to prevent it after the warning is ignored. Both Akira and Miho point out that Satsuki would probably have a better reputation if she at least skipped the attempted warnings and simply focused on saving people. Granted, even that would have its issues, as some of her more reckless rescue methods come across as though she's trying to kill people herself.

    Comic Books 
  • Buffy the Vampire Slayer In Season Eight, The government fears that Slayers are dangerous and may act above the law; Buffy herself contributed to that image when it's revealed that she robbed a Swiss bank account in order to fund her Slayer Organization, reasoning that it was a "victimless crime" due to the bank's insurance. Willow even calls her out on it.
  • The Flash: In The Dastardly Death of the Rogues, people are disqualified from the 25th-century time-traveling police by any criminal ancestry (going back at least to "present day"). One member, unbeknownst to the others, is descended from a murderer. Feeling it's unfair to hold someone else's crimes against him, he decides the solution is to make sure no one ever realizes it was his ancestor who committed the crime, by going back in time and perpetuating the frame job that keeps an innocent person in prison. He does this with more murder.
  • Guardians of the Galaxy: During the War of Kings, the team is seen as a bunch of dysfunctional screw-ups (which, in fairness, they are) and psychopaths, which doesn't help their case when trying to ask the Inhuman royal family to stop the war. And then Bug makes a pass at Medusa, followed by Martyr deciding to point a sword at one of them. In their throne room. Before she takes Crystal, the one who'd been trying to hear them out, hostage.
  • Spider-Man: In The Amazing Spider-Man (2018), it's revealed that this is one of the main reasons Spider-Man is a Hero with Bad Publicity. As J. Jonah Jameson points out, whenever he made a false accusation against Spider-Man in the past, Spidey's response was usually to insult, antagonize, and even threaten Jameson for doing so rather than simply reach out and try to set the record straight, which, if anything, just made the situation worse and convinced people he was even more of a menace.
  • Ultimate Marvel:
    • Ultimate X-Men:
      • The terrorist scientist that Jean has to kill. It's either him or Jean's boyfriend, so he had to really do a number to convince her. "I'm not an evil man. Yes, I've done evil things, but I'm just an ordinary human being like you are". And what is an ordinary man that does evil things... but an evil man? Yes, Jean chose Scott.
      • A crossover with Ultimate Spider-Man has Jean swap Logan and Peter's minds as punishment for the former's constant harassment. After the whole debacle is resolved, Peter gives the X-Men a What the Hell, Hero? speech about how antics like this being a good reason for people to hate mutants.
    • The Ultimates
      • Captain America wakes up from a forty-year nap in an iceberg, surrounded by armed soldiers, with Doctor Banner saying he's among friends. Not surprising then that Cap believes it's all a Nazi scheme, and starts punching his way out.
      • Thor claims he's the actual god of thunder, and Loki's screwing with everyone's perceptions to make him look like a crazy person. Of course, he's saying stuff like "you have to believe me", and no-one can actually see Loki (just that nice Doctor Golmen who insists Thor is his mentally ill brother.)
  • Wonder Girl Vol 1: When Cassie encounters some National Guard personnel trying to clean up some of the monsters let loose by the Amazons and they start explaining she doesn't have clearance and they don't quite trust her due to her actions during Amazons Attack! she retaliates by smashing their jeep instead of discussing her position with them or just continuing to fly on by like she does after destroying the jeep. She then acts depressed to hear about her ambush on them on the radio as though she's being unfairly painted in a bad light.
  • Wonder Woman Vol 1: When the Golden Policewomen capture the Holliday Girls, thinking they're Green Geni due to the coating they're wearing, the earth gals already have reason to suspect the Golden gals are villains due to a plea for help they intercepted. Then one of the Golden women keep cutting off Etta's explanations and saying things which make them seem to be unmistakably overbearing conquering dictators instead of police, leading to a much deeper misunderstanding than was already in place.

    Comic Strips 
  • In one Bloom County strip, Steve Dallas is defending a client in court and delivering the last bit of a finishing statement, when his client, completely unbidden, shows up by his side and announces that he'd like to add something. He then goes into a mad, spittle-filled rant about how he'll kill the whole court, their loved ones, and their housepets if he's convicted. He then immediately calms down and returns to his seat, while the judge reconsiders the acquittal he was planning to announce, and Steve considers giving up as an attorney.
  • Calvin and Hobbes: In one Christmas story arc, Calvin appoints Hobbes as his attorney to convince Santa that he's been good all year. As they're walking to the north pole, he lays out their case, that he's an extremely good kid who's simply a victim of malicious slander, but he doesn't even get past his street before he sees his neighbour Susie building a snowman nearby and immediately deciding to pelt her with snowballs.
    Calvin: Susie's still concentrating on her snowman! Let's sneak up and barrage her with slushballs!
    Hobbes: Two minutes ago we were on our way to tell Santa how good you are, remember? Have you lost your marbles?!
  • FoxTrot:
    • In one story, Paige accidentally reveals that she's been regularly seeing R-rated movies despite being underage. While her mother frets in horror at how much sex and nudity her daughter has been exposed to, Paige quickly adds "Some were just the violent kind, though."
    • Reflecting on this, in a later story, Peter suggests that Andy and Roger go see Kill Bill Volume 2, saying it was awesome, completely forgetting how his mother feels about R-rated movies. After she grounds him for a week, he angrily tells her he didn't get this upset when he saw the first Kill Bill. Andy replies that she didn't know he had seen the first one.

    Film — Animation 
  • In The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad, everyone at the court notices Mr Toad's attempting to walk out the door of the court house in the middle of his own trial when Wimky's finishes his testimony against him, made Mr Toad more guilty in everyone's eyes.
  • In Incredibles 2, the fight with the Underminer ends with him escaping and leaving the Incredibles to stop his out-of-control drill machine. Said machine causes a significant amount of property damage and the Incredibles are arrested and led away from it at gunpoint. Politicians use this disaster to justify the illegal status of supers and end their witness protection-style placement program.
    Dicker: You want outta the hole, first ya gotta put down the shovel.
  • In The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part, Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi sings a Villain Song about how totally not evil she is, with Wyldstyle not being convinced for a second and even remarking on how it totally isn't making her seem trustworthy to do it. When it's revealed she was actually telling the truth, Wyldstyle is outright stunned:
    Mayhem: All we want to do is unite our worlds in peace!
    Wyldstyle: Why didn't you guys just tell us that?
    Mayhem: We tried! The Queen sung a whole song about how not evil she was!
    Wyldstyle: That was the truth?! You guys are terrible communicators!
    Mayhem: ...I know.
  • In Monsters vs. Aliens, Susan argues to Gen. Monger that, despite now being almost 50-feet tall, she's "not a danger to anyone or anything." As she says this, she accidentally hits a helicopter with the back of her hand, causing it to crash.
    Pilot: Don't let her get me!
    Susan: [chagrined] Sorry.
  • In PAW Patrol: The Movie, Gus, who is new to Adventure Bay, expresses disbelief that a talking dog is coming to his rescue. Chase then clarifies that he is a puppy, prompting Gus to shout, "That's even worse!"
  • In Robots: Bigweld fires Ratchet, who hysterically begs for mercy claiming:
    Ratchet: No, wait! Please listen to me! You can't do this to me. This job is my LIFE! It means everything to me! You don't KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE TO GET HERE!! THE LIES I'VE TOLD! THE LIVES I'VE RUINED!!!!! ...Wait, this isn't helping me.

  • Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Getaway: When the Heffley family are at the country club with stranger's clothes, a security guard confronted them, saying that they were reported for wearing a family's missing clothes. Instead of coming clean and explaining the truth to him, Greg steals the guard's golf cart with his family behind them, and they attempt to take off. Not only do they fail to escape as the guard catches up with them, but this act also convinces him that the Heffleys intentionally stole the other family's clothing to use for themselves and attempted to flee in order to avoid getting caught, and he refuses to listen to any further explanations as he makes them give back the clothing and kicks them out of the resort.
  • Frankenstein's Monster. Seriously, there's a bit in the book where a kid insists that the monster is an ogre who wants to kill him. The monster denies this and then kills the kid for not listening. The monster is trying to abduct him at the time, so that would be an extra dose of really not helping his case.
  • During Galaxy of Fear: The Doomsday Ship, Dash Rendar is accused of being the ship's saboteur. His weapons, strong antiauthority bent, and general cockiness don't help. Though when he risks his life to seal a compartment and stop decompression, people relax a little more. He'd been there in the first place to steal the ship, but got beaten to the punch.
  • Harry Potter:
    • Happens in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban with Sirius Black: He is condemned for the horrible death of one Peter Pettigrew, former close friend, in front of many witnesses; having a role in the deaths of the parents of his godson Harry Potter at the hands of Voldemort, conspiracy in the attempt against the life of the mentioned protagonist, treason and other minutiae. It definitely does not help that he is found maniacally laughing at the scene of the crime, survives a punishment in Azkaban that no sane person should and, succeeding an escape from a prison that was previously thought inescapable, goes on stalking his godson and entering Hogwarts with murderous intentions. Oh, and he let slip things like "could just as well have killed 'em myself" from time to time. As it turns out he went hysterical from the deaths of his friends the Potters thanks to treasonous Peter "Wormtail" Pettigrew (whom Sirius himself recommended as the ideal Secret-Keeper), tried to avenge them confronting the latter, who managed to frame Sirius for his own (faked) death, was convicted and imprisoned without fair trial, went into an Heroic BSoD so epic it bordered Despair Event Horizon and made the Dementors' powers lose their effect on him, and was in Hogwarts purely to chase Wormtail.
      Sirius: I want to commit the murder I was imprisoned for!
    • During Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Minister Scrimgeour, when trying to talk Harry into becoming the Ministry's poster boy, mentions that Umbridge is still working at the Ministry, and she actually said that Harry wanted to be an Auror, in an attempt to bribe him. Harry bristles and shows the Minister the "I must not tell lies" scar that he received from his various detentions with Umbridge.
    • Harry Potter himself and other characters of the cast will fall into the wrong side of this trope from time to time. Take for instance Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets where he is accused of being the Heir of Slytherin, the fact he is caught being near several crime scenes and is heard speaking the snake-tongue Parcelmouth really doesn't help despite the fact he was trying to do good.
    • Snape can hardly do anything without looking as suspicious and unlikable as he can; he practically goes out of his way to make the heroes suspect he's a bad guy in nearly every book. He's also quite resentful of the fact that anyone would suspect that he, a former Death Eater, might be a Death Eater. This turns out to be part of his Zero-Approval Gambit, allowing him to function as The Mole within Voldemort's inner circle.
    • In a meta-sense, Slytherin House is the go-to house for villains and jerks, breeding Death Eaters like nobody's business. The first Slytherin character to not be a colossal asshat is Horace Slughorn, who isn't ambitious for himself but instead sets up connections between students with strong potential (blatantly favoring them and ignoring others). In the seventh year, not one Slytherin is part of the resistance against the Death Eaters in the school, with only later Word of God clarifying that some of the later reinforcements were Slytherins. It takes until Cursed Child for 100% heroic Slytherins to show up (Malfoy and Harry's sons).
    • The textbook Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them mentions that Uric the Oddball subjected himself to three months of Fwooper song so he could prove that it did not cause insanity. He then showed up to the next Wizards' Council meeting naked save for a dead badger on his head, thus convincing nobody. One could also make the case that voluntarily pulling a stunt like that calls the results into question on account of the fact you'd have to have a pretty tenuous grasp on sanity to think it was a good idea in the first place.
  • In Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz, Dorothy's pet Eureka (in later books the Pink Kitten) is on trial for eating one of the Wizard's pet miniature pigs. She refuses to defend herself other than to point out how much she's wanted and tried to eat said pigs. Nobody wants her convicted, but nobody can believe she's innocent by this point. A representative excerpt from the trial (the Tin Woodsman is defending her):
    Tin Woodsman: Look at the kitten’s intelligent eyes; (here Eureka closed her eyes sleepily) gaze at her smiling countenance! (here Eureka snarled and showed her teeth) mark the tender pose of her soft, padded little hands! (Here Eureka bared her sharp claws and scratched at the bars of the cage.)
After some Unconventional Courtroom Tactics aimed at showing her innocent (which Eureka sabotages at every point), when the trial is reluctantly concluded, Eureka tells them where the missing piglet trapped itself. Trying to get away from her attempts to eat it. And "Eureka was much surprised to find herself in disgrace; but she was, in spite of the fact that she had not eaten the piglet."
  • Happens in Les Misérables. In the middle of the night, the Bishop is arguing with his sister about whether the church needs additional protection:
    Bishop's sister: I say, we must have bolts, if only for tonight; nothing could be worse than a door that can be opened from the outside by the first comer; and anyway the Monseigneur has the habit of saying 'Come in,' even at midnight. But, my heavens! There's no need to even ask permission—
    At this moment there was a violent knock on the door.
    Bishop: Come in!
  • In My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!, a group of girls accuses Catarina of being a bully and provides a rather sizeable list of misdeeds as "evidence". Her friends speak up in her defense... by saying that she's far too simple-minded to have carried out the complicated plots they're accusing her of committing. Catarina, who's standing right there, doesn't get offended because she's also too dense to realize that they're giving her backhanded compliments (her unspoken reaction is "I'm so happy they're standing up for me, but something seems off here...").
  • Bryony theorises that this is why Veil turned to thievery and delinquency in Outcast of Redwall because she's one of the only three Abbey dwellers who don't immediately accuse him whenever something goes missing.
  • In The Seventh Sword trilogy, by Dave Duncan, our hero, Shonsu, is a great swordsman who doesn't know the customs of the land he lives in. He often talks too much, which turns out to not help his case. At the end of the first book, Shonsu is asked about how he managed to survive an attack. He goes into detail about how he used a dagger and attacked two men at one time, then attacked a fleeing swordsman, chopping him down as he ran away. All of these actions were against the well-established rules of the land.
  • A Song of Ice and Fire:
    • Tyrion Lannister does this a lot, and is strange in that he works it to his advantage. As an example, when he assumed a position of authority in a city where everyone hated him and assumed he was a monster because of his unfortunate appearance, he used this as an excuse to bring along an entourage composed of vicious mountain barbarians who carry human body parts as trophies. This assisted immensely with his political goals.
    • In the third book, he's accused of murdering his nephew, unfairly imprisoned, and given a sham trial; and all this is happening shortly after he fought in an incredibly vicious battle during which he received a horrible injury from which he is still recovering. He snaps, and no one could blame him. And he still manages to work this to a minor advantage; convinced he's getting a sham trial, he demands trial by combat. He selects a member of the Martells as his representative; the Martells deeply hate the Lannisters and are longtime rivals of their recent political allies the Tyrells. If he wins the trial, the Tyrells will be pissed that the alleged murderer of their daughter's fiance got away (And, although Tyrion doesn't know it, wary that Tywin might find out they actually killed Joffrey); if he loses the trial, the Martells will be pissed that their son died for him. It's one final "screw you" to his family.
    • In general, Jaime and Tyrion Lannister tend to use this trope in a "Then Let Me Be Evil" kind of way. They're constrained by bigotry (Tyrion) or unfair judgments (Jaime) and are unable to escape them despite their best efforts, so they tend to stop giving their "best" efforts and instead use an evil reputation to get their way.
    • One of the many things that Jaime and Tyrion Lannister share is a total and crippling inability to keep their big mouths shut when a clever remark occurs to them, no matter how many weapons are pointed at their heads at the time, or how testy the people holding them are. That tendency does more to nearly get them killed over the course of the series than all the Stark soldiers combined.
  • Played for Laughs in the Warhammer 40,000 Ciaphas Cain novel The Traitor's Hand, where the titular Cain is trying to argue that Corporal "Jinxie" Penlan isn't as accident-prone as her nickname would suggest... only for his argument to consist of a Long List of the various times in which her awful luck has narrowly saved her and everyone else's lives. After several lines, Cain trails off, realizing that he's only helping the opposition and then lamely notes "Well, you know how soldiers exaggerate these things."
  • The Wheel of Time has quite a variety of these, on a sliding scale from "didn't do something mildly embarrassing" to "not a mass-murdering monster".
    • Perhaps the most explicit is when Galina Casban is mouthing off to her captors about all the horrible retribution they'll face when she's freed, unaware that she's making herself look extra guilty of the murder she's been framed for. Bonus: she is a conniving evil murderer, but didn't commit that particular crime.
    • And then there are all the instances where someone's not helping their case about true accusations. Everything from yelling "I'M NOT ANGRY" to shouting about how you're not mad... to the voice in your head.
  • Wolf Hall:
    • Thomas Cromwell is intent on erasing his disreputable past as a brawler and soldier and giving himself and his family a respectable position in the world, often disturbed by the notion that he looks like a man who could easily kill someone. But Cromwell also uses his shadowy reputation and physically imposing presence whenever it would advance his agenda, and it advances his agenda often.
    • Cromwell is appalled when Wriothesley suggests that Cromwell used Anne Boleyn's trial as a means of revenge for Cardinal Wolsey's death and wonders if he might one day go after Henry himself. Cromwell is genuinely loyal to Henry (if irritated whenever the subject comes up because Henry acts like he had nothing to do with it) but since he did use Anne's downfall to get revenge, it's not a wholly unreasonable line of thought.

    Live-Action TV 
  • All My Children: Bianca hides her pregnancy with Miranda from Erica because she is terrified of how she will react. When Kendall pretends to be pregnant herself with Michael's child to help her, Erica treats Kendall like scum and acts like being pregnant with the child of a monster like Michael Cambias is the most disgusting and immoral thing that anyone could do, thus perfectly justifying Bianca's decision.
  • Angel:
    • In "Harm's Way", Harmony, as part of her attempt to prove she hadn't murdered anyone, ended up knocking three of her coworkers unconscious and locking them in a supply closet. She also killed the person who framed her, thus silencing the only other person who knew she wasn't guilty. Nevertheless, she did manage to convince them of her innocence.
    • In "You're Welcome", after discovering he's now CEO of Occult Law Firm Wolfram & Hart, Cordelia accuses Angel of having made a Deal with the Devil. Angel is denying this when a Big Red Devil in a suit walks up and shakes his hand over some legal deal they've just made. Cordy walks off in a snit.
  • In Alta Mar, Dr Rojas, in an attempt to prove their innocence, happened to do a lot of questionable actions in their desperation, such as setting Eva's room on fire to burn down the microfilm and later poison Carolina to force Eva to give them the microfilm. Understandably, no one at first believes them when they claim it was actually Carlos who was the real criminal.
  • Deconstructed in a remade Battlestar Galactica episode: After the Cylons are removed from a planet on which they'd rule the humans, a secret commission of almost Kangaroo Court trials ensues, and a man is taken as collaborating with the Cylons. He's asked to defend himself, but apparently sickened by the whole charade, he does not and almost gets himself Thrown Out the Airlock. It's only a snarly remark of one who wants to see him dead that reveals the guy to have been a The Mole, prompting the others to realise their mistake.
  • Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
    • In "Living Conditions", Buffy keeps insisting that her new college roommate is a demon because the roomie is obsessively neat, demanding, listens to Céline Dion on repeat, and her toenails kept growing after being trimmed. She even collects the toenail clippings in a plastic bag and shows them to The Scoobies. Her friends think she's losing it. The roomie turned out to be a demon who was sucking Buffy's soul out at night, which is why Buffy kept getting more and more desperate sounding.
    • In "Two to Go", Warren and Andrew both tried to defend themselves to Willow by pointing out to Willow that Warren didn't mean to shoot and kill Willow's girlfriend Tara. He was aiming for Willow's best friend.
  • Cheers: When Dr. Finch-Royce tells Sam and Diane their relationship is totally unhealthy, lacking in trust, and will never work, Diane becomes determined to prove him wrong. As she does so, she overrides Sam's total lack of concern what the man said, drags him along and gets upset when he tells her he doesn't care, in-between insulting Sam's intelligence for no reason.
  • Curb Your Enthusiasm: Larry David has the almost unnatural ability to piss off everyone he meets and will constantly make a situation far worse than it needs to be due to his refusal to admit any wrongdoing, his attempts to fix the situation being misinterpreted as an insult or even crime, or his complete inability to just know when to stop talking and walk away.
  • Jon Stewart on The Daily Show had to say this enough times that his art-department needed to design no less than three different graphics to keep the visual aid up-to-date with the show's evolving style.
  • Played for Laughs in Daredevil (2015). In an early episode, Foggy takes Karen to Josie's. As they talk, Karen tells Foggy that all she sees are threats. To prove her wrong, Foggy points to three random people in the room. The guy playing pool? He organizes a Thanksgiving food drive every year. The guy having a drink on the other side of the bar? His wife owns the dry cleaner near Nelson & Murdock's office space. The guy having dinner? ...Okay, he is a criminal, but he is turning it around. Seriously!
  • Doctor Who:
    • "Midnight": The other passengers on a damaged shuttle bus on a Death World under attack by a malign entity end up becoming suspicious of the Doctor for various reasons, including his attempts to take control of the situation. The Doctor manages to dig himself in deeper when he refers to them as "humans" in a poorly-worded sentence that excludes himself from that group. Technically accurate, but an unwise move.
    • "Rosa": After finding out the TARDIS has still not returned to 21st-century Sheffield, the Doctor mentions that this is her ninth attempt to get her companions home. Graham then points out it's actually the fourteenth.
    • "Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror": An attempt by Nikola Tesla to get investors for a project on transmitting energy through the "aether" falls flat when one man calls it a "fairy tale" and Tesla, while defending against accusations of such, ignores his assistant's suggestion and doesn't deny the claim that he picked up an electrical signal from Mars.
  • Frasier: In "Proxy Prexy", Frasier's scheme to use Martin as a figurehead on the condo board backfires on him when Martin quickly becomes more popular and dismissive of Frasier's suggestions:
    Frasier: I don't think you have the skills for this job!
    Martin: I have something better: people skills.
    Frasier: So do I, but these boobs and nincompoops are too stupid to see it!
  • In an episode of Friends, Joey claims to hate his co-star in a play, but it's actually a juvenile facade and he's in denial that he actually likes her. When Chandler calls him out on it, he counters "Oh yeah? Well if I'm pretending to hate her, why do I keep imagining us in various sexual scenarios?"
  • Game of Thrones:
    • In the chapter "The Dragon and the Wolf", after Sansa finishes her accusation against Littlefinger, she expects to listen to what he wants to say about that. The first thing he does is to demand the general of the Armies of the Vale to escort him immediately back to the Eyrie. Yup, you are innocent alright.
    • In the chapter "Winterfell", neither Sansa nor Daenerys are at their diplomatic best:
      • When Sansa asks how they are going to feed Daenerys's armies and finishes by saying, "What do dragons eat anyway?", Daenerys responds that her dragons can eat whatever they want. Not the best thing to say to a room full of vassals who already distrust Targaryens due to the acts of Daenerys's father.
      • And Sansa criticizing the arrival of Daenerys and her armies — the forces helping to fight a literal Zombie Apocalypse so the North and realm can live to see another day — isn't exactly a diplomatic course of action either, especially when Sansa wants Northern independence from Daenerys if they should survive. This only gives Daenerys a reason to distrust Sansa in turn.
  • The Good Place: When Chidi expresses horror at Eleanor's job (telemarketing of fake supplements to sick elderly people) she tries to defend herself mentioning how good she was at it. Chidi rightfully points out that being good at something terrible makes it worse.
  • In the first season of Homeland, Carrie Mathison's mental health declines as she begins to figure out Abu Nazir's agenda, the result being that she is only able to articulate her findings artistically. Screaming "Nazir was yellow, but now he's purple!" doesn't help her case.
  • In the Horrible Histories song about the Suffragettes, one of them tries to draw attention to the cause by running out onto a race course during a race. When she's trampled by a horse, a member of Parliament reacts by saying "We can't let women vote if they're so stupid they'll do that!"
  • Intergalactic: Verona points out that Tula killing anyone who calls her "crazy" does nothing to prove her sanity.
  • The title character in House often sabotages himself by being dramatic, belligerent, immature, sarcastic or any combination thereof even when his intentions are noble and his reasoning sound.
    • In one episode, House calmly and politely pleads his case to the transplant board as to why his patient should receive a heart transplant, but the board turns him down on account of the patient's age. Figuring he has nothing to lose, House then angrily accuses the board of ageism, pointing out that many of its members would be ineligible by their own criteria.
  • When Frank Reynolds gets roped into hosting a child beauty pageant in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, he wants it made very clear that he is not, in his words, "a diddler" (it doesn't help that he got roped in because the original host was arrested for child molestation). He tries to go about this by repeatedly emphasizing that he is not attracted to any of these children and even trying to have a song written called "Do Not Diddle Kids." The rest of the gang correctly point out that his repeated emphasis of this is just going to make people suspicious.
  • Subverted in Journeyman. When Dan starts digging under the front porch, Katie asks him what he's doing. He says "saving this family", to which she replies "no, not really". Dan has already been acting erratically and claiming to be a time traveller, so Katie thinks he's finally lost his mind. Then he digs up his wedding ring. He'd been wearing it just hours earlier from her point of view and had buried it in the past when the house had yet to be built.
  • In Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, Olivia Benson's half-brother Simon has a habit of getting into some level of trouble (usually not entirely his fault) and then compounding his problem by doing the worst possible thing in response. Highlights include taking the detective who tried to falsely pin a rape on him hostage and kidnapping his kids from foster care when the family court process was taking longer than they'd hoped.
  • Matlock: Matlock has several clients who live this trope. However, his client in "The Fugitive" takes the cake. He frequently interjects in court, knocks out the bailiff and flees the courthouse. Ultimately, Matlock shows his client was framed for murder. The judge, citing the extreme stress Matlock's client was under, recommends a lengthy term of community services instead of the "many years" in prison his actions would usually receive.
  • Misfits has Nathan demand that Simon use his power of invisibility to save him when they're both in danger. Simon asks him why he should after Nathan's forgotten his name and made fun of him ever since they met. Nathan then yells at Simon and calls him a freak. Unsurprisingly, Simon turns invisible and scarpers.
  • This exchange from Modern Family, "Mother Tucker".
    Cameron: Missouri is a lot more cosmopolitan than you give it credit for. It's got a very vibrant cowboy poetry scene.
    Mitchell: You're not making the point you think you're making.
  • Red Dwarf:
    • In the episode "Justice", Rimmer is tried for murdering the crew of the Red Dwarf due to botching the replacement of a drive plate. Kryten decides to act as Rimmer's defense...which involves proving that Rimmer is not competent enough to have properly replaced the faulty plate himself. (Lister would have helped, but he was in stasis at the time, and only Holly was able to, somehow, keep the ship running for three million years.) Rimmer, being somewhat of an egotist, ends up falling straight into this one by objecting to his own defense (which Kryten points out as further evidence).
    • In the episode "Emohawk: Polymorph II", a robotic Space Corps enforcement ship catches up with Starbug, and charges them with looting derelict Space Corps ships. Lister doesn't help:
      Lister: But we don't loot Space Corps derelicts. We hack our way in and swipe what we need.
      Rimmer: Lister, if this goes to trial I demand separate lawyers.
  • In Sliders, the group lands on an Earth where the Red Scare never ended. Quinn and Arturo are reported as subversives while working on some sliding equations. The agents who come to investigate ignorantly assume they're working on a pipe bomb, to which Arturo indignantly responds that a pipe bomb is child's play by comparison. It doesn't help that, due to a head injury, Arturo spends most of the episode wearing a colorful rag as a bandage on his head, which makes him look like a hippie.
  • Smallville: Throughout the first two seasons, Jonathan had no problems with openly expressing his hatred of the Luthors, which made it easy for a Dirty Cop to shoot Lionel and frame him for the crime. Jonathan even acknowledges that his doing so has come back to bite him:
    Jonathan: No, I didn't shoot Lionel. But I let my anger get the best of me. I... I haven't exactly kept it a secret how Jonathan Kent feels about the Luthors. What jury could possibly believe me now?
  • Stargate SG-1:
    • Lampshaded in an episode where, because of some contact with an alien substance, Daniel Jackson starts hallucinating, and ranting and raving. Midway through the episode, he asks, "Why does everyone think I'm crazy?!" pauses for a moment, then adds, "It's because I'm sorta acting that way, aren't I?"
    • "1969": The team accidentally goes back in time, and is confronted by guards demanding (in Russian) to know if they're Soviet spies. Without even thinking about it, Omniglot Daniel replies "Nyet!" a split second before obviously realizing what a terrible idea that was.
  • In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Aquiel," the title character is accused of murdering her superior officer on an isolated communications outpost, but claims that he's the one who attacked her. Her personnel records describe her as belligerent and insubordinate, while he was a model officer, her own personal logs are dominated by her dislike of him, she erased some of his because he was planning to formally reprimand her, and she tried to flee the Enterprise when she realized suspicion was falling on her. As it turns out the murder was done by an alien life form who had absorbed the guy and attacked when it tried to jump bodies to her.
  • In the Top Gear episode in the US South, when the stars paint inflammatory slogans on each others' cars to rile up the locals, a gas station owner angrily (and rightly) accuses them of making small-town folks look bad by deliberately baiting them. She doesn't help her case at all when she calls in a truckload of rock-throwing goons.
  • In The Walking Dead (2010) episode "Try", Rick makes a very good case why the people of Alexandria are soft and will have trouble surviving much longer. He's probably right, but the problem is, he's bloody from a fight with one of the other town residents and waving a loaded gun around wildly.
  • One segment of You Can't Do That on Television at Barth's had the usual gross jokes about the food, along with the accusation of Barth putting squirrel meat in the burgers, which Barth flatly denied:
    'Barth: I heard that, and it's not true! There are no squirrels in my burgers! Skunks, maybe, but no squirrels!
  • Young Sheldon: In "A Black Hole", when a reporter asks Sturgis if the super-collider could suffer a meltdown like in Chernobyl, he responds that a collider is not like a nuclear reactor. Then he explains that the worst that could happen is that it creates a microscopic black hole that could grow and eventually destroy the Earth. And the moon. He's fired soon after that interview.

  • "Komm wieder her" by Knorkator is a song about a man begging his wife to return to him. By telling her how much he needs her, he's really not helping his case.
    My fridge is empty, I have no clean socks. Nobody goes shopping for groceries or sweeps the floor. Who pays attention to me, and endures me.
    Who would make me coffee in the morning? Who would lock the door when I leave the house? Who would clean the windows and the shoes? Who would take the garbage out? Who, if not you?
  • "Put Another Log on the Fire" is similar. In the first verse, the singer gives a long list of chores for his significant other to perform, followed by the demand "Then come and tell me why you're leaving me."

  • Eris, the Greek goddess of strife and discord, didn't get invited to the wedding of Peleus and Thetis because the other gods thought she'd just cause trouble. In revenge, she starts the Trojan War.

  • Elvenquest: In series 2, episode 1, Sam is faced with being kicked off the quest for insulting the honour of a hero who is by all appearances better, smarter, handsomer and more likable than Sam. His only hope is the mercy of the other Questors (except Dean, who hates him). First up is Vidar, but when he tries to think about which person he likes more, Sam decides the best thing to do is insult him. Vidar instantly makes up his mind.

  • In the Mrs. Hawking play series: At the end of Mrs. Frost, Team Hawking sets the title villain up to look insane— right in front of a psychiatrist. As he calls in orderlies to take her to an asylum, Frost begins raving that she's the Kingmaker, untouchable, that Mrs. Hawking is the real villain, and various other threats... which only further convinces the doctor of her supposedly shattered mental state.
  • Peter Grimes. The title character could be the patron saint of this trope. People think he's a sadist who kills his boy apprentices on purpose and possibly abuses them. He's more of a Doom Magnet actually and haunted by the memory of the dead apprentices, but being an antisocial jerk whose attitude towards the town is "fuck you all and leave me alone" doesn't help much. He eventually goes mad and kills himself.
  • Which Witch The Musical: When Maria is asked if she attended a witches' Sabbath she answers yes but then adds it was only a dream which no one believed.

    Video Games 
  • Best of Three: When Grant accuses you of having stolen your pen, he says that he hopes you get reincarnated as a dung beetle. Helen can take offense to this and bring it back up, to which Grant simply corrects her wording, not the fact that he insulted her.
    “You called me a dung beetle!” In the next booth, someone giggles. Grant cuts them off with a look.
    “No,” he says, to you. “I expressed the hope that you might be reincarnated as a dung beetle. Very different.”
  • Blaze Union: Mizer, who at the time sustained himself by sneak thieving. Upon being accused of stealing a pendant from Velleman, the party's noble sponsor, he first attempts to flee, then denies having done anything once caught, then rallies his mooks and sneak-attacks you... while attempting to run away a lot. Once you've finally wrestled him into submission, it turns out that Mizer was innocent — Velleman's pendant fell in the mud, and one of Mizer's flunkies picked it up, calling finders keepers.
  • In City of Heroes, the leader of the Time Police organization Ouroboros, Mender Silos, was a far-future version of Lord Nemesis, the game's resident Chess Master. This revelation caused widespread distrust of the character, both in-universe and out-. Word of God stated that this was, in fact, a genuine redemption, but criticism from his more cynical peers would cause him to temporarily fall back on his old methods; unfortunately the game was shut down before any in-game content showing that could be added.
  • Dragon Age: Origins:
    • Throughout the main storyline, Loghain insists that he didn't deliberately betray King Cailan at the battle of Ostagar, and that his withdrawal was the only sound tactical choice. The fandom continues to dispute whether or not this is truenote . However, two of the prisoners Locked in the Dungeon and tortured in his close ally's estate are a soldier who survived Ostagar and the friend of another (missing, likely dead) survivor who claimed Loghain retreated while there was still hope for the king. This revelation works against him at the Landsmeet, especially since the latter was a member of the nobility. Even if he didn't betray Cailan, suppression of the witnesses tends to suggest otherwise (his cover story was that the Wardens betrayed the king by leading him into a hopeless charge, which is definitely a lie). Which leads to even more fandom dispute as to whether Loghain knew what his ally was doing in that regard...
      • Even worse, another prisoner is a templar who was responsible of capturing Jowan, the Blood Mage that Loghain hired to poison one of his biggest opposers. This revelation not only works in favor of the claims that he used a blood mage to kill someone, but also put both the templar's sister (a noblewoman) and the representative of the local religion against him.
    • In Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening, your introduction with Nathaniel Howe (son of Rendon Howe from Origins) has you encountering him in a jail cell after he infiltrated your new base to try and assassinate you. It took four Wardens to subdue him. He is openly disdainful of you, the Grey Wardens, the reigning monarch and the other noble families for the crime of...opposing his psychotic backstabbing rat bastard of a father. If asked what he will do if released, he openly admits he will probably come back and try to kill you again. If you tell him this trope, he'll tell you that he could lie if you wanted. It's then up to the player to either execute him, let him go or conscript him into the Wardens where he ultimately proves to be a better man than his dad, after being hit a few times with the cluebat.
  • Golden Sun:
    • Will the Mars Clan of Prox please stand up? Start with stealing the artifacts to unleash the horrible power of Alchemy on the world, continue with repeated kidnappings and thefts in the pursuit of unleashing said horrible power, add in attempted murder of a transformed girl, murder of innocent scholars (and less-innocent guards) between Tolbi and Lalivero, murder of enslaved workers at Babi's Lighthouse, and is it any wonder Isaac & Co. decided lethal force was necessary to stop them? Did we mention said murder of the transformed girl will be successful if Issac doesn't save her?
    • Then The Lost Age reveals that without the power of Alchemy the world will decay to nothing... and in comes the Mars Clan's second set of champions, led by a brute who openly believes Prox will Take Over the World and who will do everything in his power to make that happen, including double-crossing Felix & Co. who are working for him to save the world (and their parents). NOT. HELPING.
  • James Tobin in the game In the 1st Degree really gets stuck in this trope. He is charged with murdering his business partner Zack and for stealing his own paintings. He ends up changing his story of what happened between him and Zack two or three times throughout the game. He ends up coming off as suspicious as a result of telling a different story more than once and shifting the blame to someone else more than once.
  • Kingdom Hearts's Big Bad, Master Xehanort, wants to create Balance Between Good and Evil for the forces of Light and Darkness... so he somehow orchestrates a multi-game Complexity Addiction that ends up causing Dark Is Evil suffering to countless people, Worlds, etc., thus ultimately reinforcing the very Black-and-White Morality he obsessively opposes.
  • In Mass Effect 2:
    • Talking to the krogan mechanic on Tuchanka has him defensively ask if Shepard thinks the krogan just abduct quarians to serve as their tech support. Then he says they don't do that "any more".
    • Tali's loyalty mission involves her being accused of smuggling active geth onto the quarian fleet. If you undertake this mission after completing the Derelict Reaper mission, you can bring along your geth squadmate Legion onto the quarian fleet while trying to "help" prove her innocence. You actually have to pass a Charm/Intimidate check to allow Legion to remain in your squad for the duration of the mission.
  • This trope could easily be renamed The Max Payne Legal Defence. In order to prove that he's innocent of murdering his best friend, who was one of the two guys who knew he was undercover, he goes out and slaughters his way through what seems like half the rank-and-file of the New York Mafia. Most of those were probably self-defence, but still not going to look good if and when he can touch base with his superiors, to say nothing of the Enemy Mine arrangement he made with someone rather high-ranking in the local Russian mob. After Act 3 or thereabouts the trope is averted by way of Motive Decay (and probably Sanity Slippage); Max isn't interested in clearing his name anymore, he just wants revenge. He gets both, aided and abetted by some really impressive Hero Insurance.
  • In Mega Man X4, Repliforce were framed for destroying a city. When they are declared Mavericks for this and refusing to come in for questioning, they start a coup, during which they destroy a city.
  • This applies to the entirety of Project × Zone: upon Meden Traore's final defeat, the story's main villains are utterly flabbergasted that the heroes (and several villains from other franchises) would get together to stop them from recreating existence. One of the villains out and out ask why some of the heroes would want to stop them, particularly given that these protagonists come from CrapsackWorlds. She actually has a point: had she not spent the whole game merging the worst of the worst entities from various franchises with everyone else's universe, double-crossing people who had agreed to help her, and generally trying to kill the heroes while in league with some of their multiverse's worst scum, it's possible that some of the heroes might have even agreed with it.
  • Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness: The game begins with Lara as the main suspect of Von Croy's murder (and very likely the murder of Carvier, given the police knew Lara was there just before their death). She then proceeds to shoot up the security guards of an old nightclub, break into the Louvre (killing many police and security personnel present), break into an archaeological dig and interfere with no less than two crime scenes (including that of the first victim, mentioned above). Of course, all of this leads onlookers to be skeptic of her.
  • In Yakuza 4, Dirty Cop Tanimura has garnered an unflattering reputation around town as a parasite who uses threats and extortion for ill-gotten gains. While this isn't entirely unfounded, he makes a point to only target predatory businesses, and uses the funds to help support the city's community of illegal immigrants. Given how he'll often gripe about being broke, he doesn't even seem to keep any of the cash for himself. However, he's too lazy to actually explain this when he's confronted over his actions, something that his friend grills him for once the misunderstanding is cleaned up.

    Visual Novels 
  • Happens a lot in Ace Attorney, but the crowning king of the trope is probably Larry Butz. In Ace Attorney Investigations, he elevates this into an art-form by actively trying to counter Edgeworth's arguments... while Edgeworth is in the middle of trying to prove him innocent of committing murder.
  • Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair: Usami/Monomi often tries to convince the students to not pay attention to Monokuma's motives to kill each other in hopes of getting out of the island, but the students are also suspicious of her and believe her to be an accomplice of Monokuma as well, causing them to ignore and verbally abuse her. The fact that she is reluctant to explain what is going on and runs away whenever questioned about her intentions doesn't help much.
    • During the second trial, Hiyoko becomes the main suspect, due to several damning clues - including her footprints at the scene of the crime. Instead of telling the truth, (that she was lured there and drugged by the killer so she would leave her footprints as she left in order to frame her for the murder), she compulsively denies the accusations made against her with lies and changes her version of story multiple times.
    • The same thing happens in the first trial to Fuyuhiko, the only person who didn't attend the party in which the murder took place, except instead of compulsive lying, he makes angry death threats. Surprisingly enough, he's only briefly considered a suspect, since Chiaki knew where he was at the time of the murder, and the circumstances of the murder meant he couldn't have done it.

  • El Goonish Shive: Ellen defends the crazed look she gets at the idea of throwing an unsupervised birthday party for Grace by saying it could've meant any number of things. Mr. Verres figured that all of those reasons would justify having a more responsible chaperone.
  • In Exiern Faden says "Just for the record I never tortured anyone. I was more into the killing and destroying side of evil wizardom."
  • In Girl Genius Tarvek denies having any part in the plan to usurp the Wulfenbachs by installing a fake Heterodyne — his plan was orders of magnitude better!
  • Mitzi in Lackadaisy has a little bit of trouble convincing Wick that her comment about having Rocky murdered was a joke...because her explanations are, in order, "I wouldn't need to hire anyone, I could wring his neck myself," followed by "I'm still joking, he'd do it himself if I asked him nicely" and "still joking but he really would".
  • In this strip of Loserz, Ben doesn't exactly help convincing his mom that Video Games don't cause violent crimes.
  • The Order of the Stick: In "Hobgoblins and You," Xykon wants to recruit Hobgoblins, but Redcloak is against it, citing Hobgoblins' elitist attitudes towards regular Goblins.
    Redcloak: All efficiency, and warrior's codes, and sense of duty, with their military this and discipline that, and— and I'm not helping my case at all, am I?
    Xykon: It's official: Orange is the new green.
    Demon-Roach: I'll inform Milan.
  • In Sandra and Woo, Larisa does this when accused by a classmate of being a slut.
    Larisa: She's only saying that 'cause I like to dress sexy to appeal to boys. What's slutty about that!? Please!? And anyway, I'm sure that I haven't kissed more than a dozen boys in my life... and not one of them meant much to me!
    Sandra: Some people just shouldn't try to defend themselves...
  • Three Panel Soul: Matt gets fired for talking at work about buying a gun for target shooting, which makes his coworkers uncomfortable about him.
    Matt: But I don't have any reason to go postal! Well, I guess hypothetically now I do. I mean... wait, no.

    Web Original 
  • In the first trial of Doubt Academy, Akari's over-the-top defensive behavior and anger at everyone believing that she was the culprit only lead the other students to push for her death even more. The kicker? She didn't do it. Akari was defending photographs of her she found in her room.
  • Oxventure: In one of the Dungeons & Dragons outings, Andy's pirate character is dealing with a nobleman's daughter who has threatened to summon the guards to dismember him if he doesn't stop trying to convince her that her father set her lover up to be executed. Take two begins with him admitting that they got things off on the wrong foot, but he was just ransacking her father's stuff and he found this journal...When she subsequently tries to pull the cord, Andy slashes it, and then Luke's character fixes it with magic as a show of good faith, because "do something at random with conviction" is a tried-and-tested D&D tradition.
  • In Farce of the Three Kingdoms, several of Liu Zhang's loyal followers try to convince him that he should trust them and not Liu Bei by doing the worm, biting his clothes, and jumping off tall buildings in front of him. This is counterproductive.
  • In one of YouTube channel The Quartering's (Numerous) videos complaining about Captain Marvel (2019) he complains about how Brie Larson apparently uses a "Butt-double" (his own words) in one scene. Not only is this a pretty silly thing to make a video complaining about to begin with, he prefaces it by saying "I'm not even a butt guy, more of a boob guy.", presumably thinking this makes him more impartial or something. It doesn't, and just adds to the silliness of the whole deal.
  • As Spoony points out and parodies in his video review, John Anderton's way of proving the Precrime Division he's not a murderer in the Minority Report game adaptation... is to brutally beat down and murder everyone in his path, including fellow agents who are merely armed with Sick-Sticks and thus are not aiming to kill you.

    Western Animation 
  • The Amazing World of Gumball: In "The Car", the Wattersons accidentally destroy the Robinsons' new car, and when Mr. Robinson finds out, he tries to sic the police on them. While the Robinsons are certainly justified in being furious at the Wattersons, they don't do themselves any favors when they get in the Doughnut Sheriff's face and scream at him to arrest them, destroy the Wattersons' own car as payback right in front of him, and then attack him when he tries to calm them down; the episode ends with them getting arrested.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender:
    • The first series:
      • You know, Zuko, telling the Gaang about that assassin you sent after them and accidentally attacking Toph really isn't going to convince them that you now want to join them. (At least he's smart enough to realize this.)
      • In an earlier episode, the gang force their way into the Earth King's palace, leaving a trail of unconscious guards and wrecked masonry behind them, and then try to convince the King that they're on his side. The King is understandably not impressed:
        Earth King: You invade my palace, lay waste to all my guards, break down my fancy door, and you expect me to trust you!?
        Toph: He has a good point.
      • A minor case, but when trying to expose Iroh and Zuko, Jet's ranting does not help his case, especially since it makes him a bit incoherent.
        Jet: I know they're firebenders! I saw the old man heating his tea!
        Guard: He works in a tea shop.
    • The Legend of Korra: Sheltered Country Mouse Avatar Korra tends to stumble into this.
      • In "Welcome to Republic City" When she discovers and tries to argue against an Equalist protestor decrying benders as an oppressive establishment, he easily manipulates her confrontational attitude to make her look like the bad guy in front of a large audience of listeners.
      • Later in the same episode, she's incredulous when police insist she be arrested for causing property damage during her well-meant Curb-Stomp Battle of a trio of protection racket enforcers. Instead of coming along quietly to explain her presumption of Hero Insurance, she flees the police, fighting them as she bolts, forcing them to use an Airship to bring her in, which earns the enmity of their chief.
      • Matters worsen in "The Revelation" when, desperate to find a friend kidnapped by Equalists, she shakes down the same protester for information in public, smashing his megaphone, flipping his table and hoisting him by the shirt, and must again flee the police when the protester wails (quite rightly) that he's being oppressed.
      • Played for laughs with Varrick when he tries to defend himself, stating that he's helped each of Team Avatar in his own way. He points out how he warned Korra of Unalaq, made Bolin a film star, helped Asami rebuild her company and had Mako framed and thrown in prison. He takes a moment to realize that the last one was bad.
      • And Zuko does it again at the beginning of the third season, as he's taking the elevator to visit a combustionbender's prison, reminiscing about the time he'd hired a combustionbender to kill the Avatar... in the company of Korra's cousins, who'd tried to kill her last season, and Korra's father.
  • Ben 10: Omniverse: When Kevin tries protesting having been used as a Manchurian Agent against Ben by the Rooters, Servantis retorts that Ben is a reckless child who sees the Omnitrix as a toy and heroism as a game. As he says this, Ben turns into Alien X to fight the Rooter's Elite Mooks and the brainwashed half-alien Plumbers, convincing Kevin that Servantis has a point.
  • Central Park
    • In Season 1 "Episode One", Birdie tells the audience there's nothing wrong to watch someone from a distance without their knowledge and it's not creepy, while he's peeping through the Tillerman's window while hiding from the them. He tries justifying it by saying he's the narrator.
    • In Season 1 "A Fish Called Snakehead", when two joggers are jogging by the Harlem Meer at Central Park, the male jogger spots a snakehead in the lake but his wife doesn't believe him. When the male jogger is telling Owen and his crew about spotting the snakehead, his wife tells them that he needs glasses, he's colorblind, and he hit his head this morning on a towel bar and they have to take his word with a grain of salt. The male jogger gets offended and angrily blurts out he also had brain surgery recently and asks if she should mention that while she's at it.
  • This pops up too often to list off with Dan from Dan Vs., but at one point is notably inverted. Dan declares in court that it's not his fault he smashed through the wall of a church during a wedding because he was going to run over a nun who jaywalked. Of course, the judge misunderstands him and we get this exchange:
    Judge: So you were swerving to avoid her?
    Dan: Uhhhhh... yeah.
  • In the Donald Duck short "The Vanishing Private", Donald gets doused in experimental "invisible paint" and Pete, his sergeant, tries to track him down. Pete naturally does several things that make the General think Pete's lost his marbles, up to and including wearing what looks like a bicorne hat while running around with an armload of grenades, ranting about "a little guy that you can't see".
  • A bizarre example happened on DuckTales (1987) where Launchpad was trying to convince everyone in Duckberg not that he hadn't done a bad thing, but that he wasn't doing good things. After he was mistaken for Gizmoduck, things started to get out of hand, so he went on live TV to tell everyone he wasn't Gizmoduck; but accidentally said the command word for Felton's armor, while his mother, who was keeping it in her trailer, was watching the broadcast. After the armor flew all the way across town and affixed itself to Launchpad in the middle of his denial, it kind of spoiled it. (Fortunately - or unfortunately, depending on your point of view - people realized he wasn't Gizmoduck after he wrecked half the city in a vain attempt to control the suit.)
  • Fairly Oddparents: School's Out! The Musical: When Timmy realizes that the Pixies can now grant Flappy Bob's wishes, he tries to get Bob to listen to him despite having just literally wrecked his lifelong dream. Predictably, Bob ends up siding with the Pixies.
  • Futurama:
  • Gravity Falls:
    • In "The Time Traveler's Pig", Blendin Blandin tries to point out that it was Dipper and Mabel causing all the chaos he's been blamed for, he calls Waddles the pig their leader. Lolph and Dundgren are less than impressed.
    • In "Sock Opera" Dipper's been forced to possess a puppet after his body has been hijacked by Bill Cipher. Mabel admits she's having a hard time taking him seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off a perfect angry Kermit face while comically growling in frustration.
  • Invader Zim: When at one point offered to refute some rather convincing evidence Dib had collected on national television, Zim replied to a question of "are you an alien?" with "LIES! THE FILTHY EARTH BOY LIES!", before catching himself and adding "...I mean, 'no'."
  • Project Cadmus in Justice League does have a genuine point about what the Justice League could do if they went rogue... but they'd have a much easier time convincing people they're the good guys if their anti-superhero projects didn't go rogue and become villains the League needed to take down every other week. And taking funding from Lex Luthor of all people just made matters worse. Yeah, the Justice League might be a threat, but Cadmus's failures most definitely are threats. Here's the list of problems Cadmus directly caused:
    • They created a cloned team of heroes called the Ultimen, who ultimately went rogue and attacked Cadmus on learning that they were unstable and expendable.
    • They created an evil Supergirl clone called Galatea, and used her to assassinate U.S. citizens who were a threat to them, before she (wait for it) went rogue.
    • Doomsday was an anti-Superman weapon. He did what he was conditioned to do... while Superman was in the middle of trying to save an island from a volcanic eruption.
      • After the aforementioned Doomsday escape, General Eiling tries to take out both Doomsday and Superman by firing a kryptonite-tipped nuclear missile at said island. Even Waller calls him out on this.
    • They sent Task Force X/ the Suicide Squad to steal the Annihilator magical armor (created by Hephaestus for Ares as a WMD). This succeeds with only one casualty... and by the next episode, Felix Faust has tricked them, stolen the armor, and headed off to get revenge on Hades. So much for that.
    • After the Atom manages to de-activate the Dark Heart, Cadmus took the remains, which Atom lampshades as a terrible idea. It manages to prove an even worse idea, when Lex Luthor and Braniac are able to use it to become nigh-invincible.
  • Kim Possible In the mini-sode "Overdue", Kim is detained at the school library, so Ron goes on a mission by himself, later joined by Wade (through a robot). Despite Wade's tech-savvy, the quality of his assistance in the field is up for debate:
    Wade: (in Drakken's lair) Activating stealth mode!
    (The robot becomes transparent - revealing Ron hiding behind it.)
    Ron: Uh, great, yeah, but have you noticed how that doesn't help me?!
  • In the "Keeping Up with Our Joneses" episode of King of the Hill where Hank, Peggy, and Bobby try to quit smoking, they go to a support group where everyone is shocked when Bobby reveals that he's been a smoker ever since his dad let him smoke a whole carton. Hank then claims that he didn't let Bobby smoke the carton, he made him as a punishment.
  • In The Mr. Peabody & Sherman Show, singer Enrico Caruso is put on trial for causing the Great San Fransisco Earthquake with his voice and Mr. Peabody tries to scientifically prove that this couldn't possibly be the case, but the fiercely competitive Caruso takes hitting 10 on the scale to be a challenge.
    Mr. Peabody: Enrico, I'm trying to prove your innocence...
    Enrico: No! I must strive to better than FIIIIIIIIVEEE!!! (Hits 10, triggering another Earthquake)
  • My Little Pony:
    • My Little Pony 'n Friends: The Crabnasties in "Fugitive Flowers" turn out to be the good guys, but the fact that they're introduced literally tearing the forest apart looking for the deceptively cute Flores and then proceeded to recklessly trample Posey's garden trying to arrest their quarry doesn't really help their case. They also ought to reconsider the name. (An Aesop about not judging by appearance that can only have been written by writers who hadn't seen the first half of the story then follows.)
    • My Little Pony Tales: In "Stand By Me", a mock trial is staged after Melody accuses Teddy of stealing her tape deck. Teddy blurts out that he would "do anything" to get a tape deck like hers, making him seem more guilty in the eyes of the jury. Also, Flash Back sequences give us more evidence of Teddy's Jerkassery as Sweetheart tries to tell us that he's actually good, no, really. It's unlikely that anyone ended up with a better opinion of him just because one instance of theft was Not Me This Time.
    • My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic:
      • "Bridle Gossip": Despite how negatively people treat the cast's suspicions, Zecora does nothing to dissuade their suspicion until Apple Bloom clears things up. If anything, she makes herself even more suspicious. On the other hand, Apple Bloom says that Zecora told her that whenever she came to town, all the stores "mysteriously closed", implying she didn't know why the ponies hid whenever she came to town and may not have had any idea they thought she was a witch.
      • "Luna Eclipsed": This is a big part of the plot. Princess Luna returns after a thousand-year banishment as the evil Nightmare Moon in an attempt to reform her public image. Unfortunately, between her spooky Big Entrance, her booming voice, and her hair-trigger temper, it's hard for her to convince anyone that she really isn't an evil villainess. And Pinkie Pie's screaming and running don't help either. Especially since nobody else realizes that Pinkie isn't actually scared. Pinkie is more at fault than Luna, seeing as Luna soon realizes her theatrics aren't necessary, and actually starts making progress... only to be repeatedly foiled in her efforts by Pinkie causing a scene. To the understandable frustration of Twilight, who is bending over backwards to help Luna in the first place.
      • "Rarity Investigates" has an instance where Rainbow Dash has been accused of engineering a situation where one of the Wonderbolts had to leave, so that she would be picked as the top reserve to replace them in an air show. When asked what she was doing the night before, she says that she was dreaming of being in the show with a huge expression of wistful happiness on her face, immediately solidifying her apparent motive in the eyes of her accusers.
      • "No Second Prances": Trixie accidentally lets it slip that she only became friends with Starlight to get back at Twilight. She then says she does consider Starlight a friend, but then digs herself even deeper when she says that getting back at Twilight was "Just a bonus."
      • "Shadow Play": While the Pillars were wrong to jump to conclusions about Stygian's motives, the fact that he outright stole their artifacts of power and and was using them in an ominous-looking spell without explaining why he's doing it when they confronted him did not help Stygian look innocent at all.
      • "School Daze" has racist jerk Chancellor Neighsay close the School of Friendship on grounds that the "non-pony" students are a threat to the pony students. While Twilight Sparkle and said students are desperately trying to reopen the school and prove him wrong, the parents of said non-pony students show up full-cocked and threatening world war because the students have vanished. It's a good thing Twilight was able to take a third option and just open the school without Neighsay's approval, as the griffons, yaks, and dragons really didn't make things easy for her.
  • The Penguins of Madagascar: In one episode, a peanut-deprived Burt the Elephant believes Julian is a peanut and chases after him. Maurice points out that Julian's head doesn't even look like a peanut, only for an insulted Julian to comment that his head is peanut-shaped, at which point Burt shoves him down his trunk. Also in the episode, when Mort goes crazy with Skipper and Private trying to calm him down, Private tries to assure him they weren't going to hurt him... only for Skipper to state he did authorize force.
  • Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo: Upon being confronted by an angry man about breaking into his building, Shaggy insists that that's not the case at all, no sir! It's the building right next to the man's building that's being broken into.
  • The Simpsons:
    • In "Round Springfield", after Bart got appendicitis after swallowing a jagged metal piece inside a box of Krusty-Os, Krusty said at a press conference he would prove the metal O was safe by eating one personally, on live TV. Unfortunately for him, despite the fact that he actually ate a regular Krusty-O, he collapsed from horrible stomach pains after doing so.
    • "Who Shot Mr. Burns: Part II" Homer, pointing a gun at Mr. Burns' head, in front of everyone: "Say I never shot you!... Before." Only because Mr. Burns suddenly forgot his name again.
    • In "Brother From Another Series" Sideshow Bob's brother Cecil tricks him into doing this in one of the few episodes where Bob actually is innocent.
      Sideshow Bob: But you can't do this! I saved the children's lives! I'm a hero!
      Cecil Terwilliger: [craftily] Tell them they'll live to regret this.
      Sideshow Bob: You'll live to regret this! [realizing] Oh, thanks a lot, now *I* look crazy
    • In "A Fish Called Selma", Troy McClure, who spent the episode fighting back against the rumors that he has a deviant attraction to marine wildlife, announces that he's going to celebrate his new movie deal by happily proclaiming that he's going to... Sea World.
  • SpongeBob SquarePants:
    • In "Shellback Sheningans", when SpongeBob thinks there's something wrong with Gary (really Plankton in disguise), he takes him to the pet hospital and is later seen hyperventilating after hearing the diagnosis. The nurse tries to assure him that all the doctor was saying was they just need to run a few more tests...only for the doctor to tell her he wasn't saying anything like that at all.
    • In "I Had An Accident", SpongeBob has an accident and becomes paranoid to the point that he won't leave his house anymore:
      Sandy: Don't worry, Patrick. We'll get SpongeBob to come outside, and then he'll see there's nothing to be afraid of.
      Patrick: (Wearing a boxing glove) And that's when I punch him, right?
      (Sandy gives a flat stare)
  • In season 3 of Star Trek: Lower Decks, Mariner is accused of purposely humiliating the Cerritos in her unauthorized interview with a visiting reporter. She keeps saying that she "only told the truth." Unfortunately, Captain Freeman and the rest of the crew take this almost as a confession because to them, the truth is that the ship gets into absurd misadventures that make them look like a joke when taken out of context. In reality, Mariner's "truth" was that the Cerritos is a great ship and it was everyone else who casually discussed all the embarrassing stuff without realizing it. By the time the report airs and shows them how wrong they were, Mariner has been transferred to the worst post in Starfleet and resigned because of it.
  • Star Wars: The Clone Wars:
    • In "Bombad Jedi" Palpatine tells Padmé she should have brought a clone escort. Jar Jar decides to reassure the Chancellor that Padmé has nothing to worry about, only to trip over Threepio's leg and hit a button that causes the ship to briefly go out of control.
    • Ahsoka does a lengthy run of this during The Wrong Jedi arc. After being accused of planning a terrorist bombing, she breaks out of prison the first chance she gets, refuses Anakin's pleas that she trust in the Jedi Council to resolve the false charges against her (so she can prove her innocence), teams up with a Separatist war criminal (as an Enemy Mine while both are hunted by the Republic), and is caught red handed with the bombs used in the attack (because she tracked down the real bomber's hideout). Making matters worse, when taken to give her account of events to the Jedi Council, she contradicts herself several times because she's trying to guess what really happened, causing the Council to believe she's getting caught in a lie.
  • Star Wars Rebels:
    • "The Lost Commanders": The Ghost crew is sent to recruit an old, experienced war veteran. When he turns out to be a clone, Order 66 survivor Kanan is automatically mistrustful of him and the other two clones he lives with. The fact that one of them, Wolffe, is The Paranoiac and sells out the crew to the Empire doesn't help matters.
    • "An Inside Man" has two examples:
      • Thrawn asks Lieutenant Lyste for his opinion of some graffiti left by Sabine of her phoenix symbol on a piece of the retaining wall. Lyste ignores the graffiti and flatly states it's a piece of the wall. Thrawn next asks Agent Kallus, who gives an informed and correct answer. Lyste clenches his fist in the background when he realizes he screwed up.
      • The Mole, Kallus, orders a disguised Kanan and Ezra into a lift with him under the pretense of coming with him to check the perimeter. As soon as the elevator door closes, he says "Don't move, rebels," in an Implied Death Threat tone, which causes Kanan and Ezra to beat him up and pin him before he can explain he's on their side.
  • In the El Tigre pilot, Rodolfo is about to leave on a business trip and instructs Manny to be on his best behaviour. Manny assures that he will, jokingly asking, "What do you think I'm gonna do, rob a bank?" and his chuckles quickly snowball into a full-scale evil laugh.
  • Total Drama Action: Gwen's reputation has taken a nosedive after Geoff reveals footage that shows obvious Ship Tease between her and Duncan, effectively proving that Trent's desperate lengths to please Gwen, culminating in their break-up, weren't unfounded. Gwen protests her innocence, claiming that she and Duncan "wrestled for two seconds" and then stole everyone's underwear and strung it from the flagpole. Amused, Geoff sarcastically points out how great a friend Gwen is.
  • In The Venture Bros., King Gorilla angrily tells the Guild that they didn't protect him from going to prison, at which Phantom Limb points out that King Gorilla went to prison after eviscerating and sodomizing Vince Neil on national television—something no amount of protection from the law would save him from. King Gorilla responds that he only sodomized half of Vince Neil.
  • The Zeta Project:
    • Zee is accused of being re-programmed by a terrorist, and no matter what he does the FBI always make it out to be a crime. During most of the series, he is pursuing his creator so he can convince them that he's good, but his actions are taken as an assassination attempt when he accidentally set off the cryogenic chamber, almost killing him. The poor guy just can't win.
    • When Agent Bennett tries to convince his superiors in the second season he hasn't gone insane on this mission, the fact one of his own Agents left the NSA over his behavior is pointed out. He counters he hasn't had a bad call on his record other than Gotham, which is not a good incident to bring up since he nearly got part of the city blown up during that incident. Agent West facepalms audibly in the background.
    • When Agent West is right about where Zeta is at one point, he points out the other times he found Zeta... which everyone knows were either accidents or Agent Lee doing the legwork.
    • Agent Lee goes back and forth: initially she gets this when attempting to explain Zeta isn't evil, but she tries that exactly once and then turn to the much more probable and equally true objection to her superiors that Bennett is becoming unstable. When she feels it isn't taken seriously, she quits, an act extreme enough to prompt investigation into Bennett's behavior. But she's unable to get Zeta's case heard afterwards when she's viewed as a Mood-Swinger who turned on her boss, and any response she has damaged her case.
    • Zeta's main character witness for the entire series is a runaway minor who has a criminal record. The show lives and breathes this trope.

    Real Life 
  • Back in the 1980s, during the notorious lawsuit against McDonald's coffee, the suing party, one Stella Liebeck, went against the advice of her legal counsel and did an interview on 60 Minutes, live national news. During this interview, she took the provided empty Styrofoam cup and demonstrated how she placed the original cup of coffee from Mc Donald's between her legs and proceeded to violently rip off the lid, and testified during the interview that while this was going on, the driver of the vehicle hit a speed-bump on the way out of the parking lot, causing the coffee to splash her. (She testified in court that the vehicle was parked and standing still.) After she finished demonstrating how she intentionally put herself in harm's way, Matt Laurer asked the obvious question "Weren't you expecting the coffee to be hot?" Stella turned and looked at the news anchor with contempt, as if he was mentally challenged and said "No! I wasn't expecting the coffee to be ho-ot!" The backlash from countless third-party news, talk-show, and entertainment venues was almost immediate and intense. Even Sesame Street had the "Unpleasable Customer" grab a pot of coffee, pour it on his head, and then turn around and threaten to sue Elmo because he burned himself. However, the lawsuit wasn't because the coffee was as hot as your everyday coffee. It was hot enough to give her third-degree burns and she was suing to get money for her medical bills that resulted from an 8-day hospitalization and skin grafts caused by said third-degree burns. Her initial attempts to settle with McDonalds were met with an offer of $800. She actually won the court case, the jury finding McDonalds 80% at fault.
  • This Cracked article mentions how gamers who are angry about anti-piracy measures pirate more and points out that this is not helping their case. And coming full circle, said Cracked article cited examples to prove its point which actually undermined the point. It equates gamers choosing to pay nothing for the Humble Indie Bundle, where paying nothing was an option, to piracy and claiming this hurt sales and developers (said bundle was a massive financial success overall, which grew into a dedicated storefront that is still around to this day), and citing Spore's high piracy rate as justification for the use of DRM (the game was pirated so much because of its DRM, the controversial always-online SecuROM, and piracy was the only method to get a version that would work without a dedicated internet connection). In the end, the author actually ends up making a strong argument in favor of piracy.
  • The infamous antics of the British protest group "Fathers 4 Justice", who felt that parental access rights are unfairly biased towards the mother under British divorce laws. This is up for debate. What is not up for debate is that, when the general thrust of your argument is "we can too be trusted to look after young children", participating in what can only be described as wacky hijinks involving hilariously cheap superhero costumes, flour-filled condoms and various national monuments to make your point is definitely counter-productive. Even The Other Wiki has made fun of them with an editorial about just that.
  • Soon after Tesco was found to have horsemeat in their ready-made beef lasagne, which wasn't entirely their fault as it turns out, one of their delivery trucks hit and killed a horse.
  • Piers Anthony was once asked about the sexual content in his books, which some people thought had highly creepy tones of ephebophilia or pedophilia. After some musings on biological and societal pressures that didn't do a lot to help his case either, he ended with, “But about membership in an anti-pedophilia organization—I do oppose pedophilia, but don’t belong to any such outfit. In fact, I correspond with some pedophiles in prison.” Yeah, most people, um, don't do that. And even fewer would apparently feel no need to provide further explanation on that front.
  • Lawyers berated an editorial by Isaac Asimov in which he said they were the only high-powered profession that doesn't involve math (as opposed to engineers, doctors, etc). The lawyers said that they absolutely do have to calculate billable hours, figure taxes, and perform other examples of comparatively simple arithmetic, to which Asimov replied: "I rest my case."
  • During the 2018 Christmas holiday, Kevin Spacey surprised everyone by releasing a brief video of him declaring his innocence of sexual harrassment allegations while in the character of Frank Underwood from House of Cards (US). While diehard Spacey fans thought it was brilliant, everyone else thought it was in poor taste and further proof that the man is a Jerkass if nothing else.
  • A year after the release of Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Esquire writer Matt Miller wrote an article discussing & criticizing the toxic subsection of the Star Wars Fandom who spent the past year attacking the film, the actors, its crew, the creators, and the other fans who enjoyed the film; often using racist and/or sexist rhetoric in their attacks. Soon after the article was posted online, said toxic fans began to harass Miller & Esquire online with extreme language, petty insults, racist and/or misogynist comments, all while demanding he be fired. Miller then wrote a follow-up article a week later thanking them for proving his point.
  • Machine Head released the standalone single "Do or Die" in October of 2019, which was almost instantly criticized for its lyrics, and the general opinion was that it was petty and immature and made Robb Flynn look incredibly thin-skinned and unable to accept that people sometimes say unflattering things and have strong negative opinions about polarizing releases (which Catharsis, their 2018 full-length, absolutely was). Flynn, not content to release the song and then let it be, then took to Instagram several days later to call out the people who called him out over the song, where he posted yet another angry rant that included several homophobic and misogynistic insults and made even the fans who didn't turn against "Do or Die" hold their heads. He also repeatedly took shots at Dope (as comparisons between the choruses to "Do or Die" and Dope's own "Die MF Die" had been made), who proceeded to make Flynn look like even more of an idiot when frontman Edsel Dope publicly responded to Flynn in a manner that was, all things considered, extremely gracious and tactful, as he stated that he was a fan of Machine Head and respected Flynn's musical career, politely stated that he had absolutely no idea what his problem with him or Dope was, and proceeded to pull up Dope and Machine Head's streaming stats (as Flynn had openly called Dope nobodies) to show that Dope actually had more streaming listeners. The end result was that Flynn looked like even more of a raging manchild who couldn't handle any sort of negative fan or critical reception, while the band he attempted to start a fight with (clearly hoping for an ugly public spat) put him in his place without a single unkind word.
  • In 2019, the Christian rapper Flame filed a lawsuit against Katy Perry and her label Warner Bros. Music, claiming that the song "Dark Horse" ripped off a background melody from his own song "Joyful Noise". Flame went on to win the lawsuit. In response, the YouTuber musician Adam Neely posted a video defending Katy Perry, showing off the melody in question and arguing that the melody "ripped off" was fairly basic and common to a lot of songs, making the lawsuit dangerous precedent. Warner Music responded to Neely's video by filing a manual copyright claim against it, citing that he was infringing on their rights to "Dark Horse" playing a melody they had lost the rights to. The kicker? The segment they claimed was copyright infringing was him playing the melody as heard in "Joyful Noise". Neely's follow-up video was mainly him being completely bewildered by all this.
  • This happened to Netflix in mid 2022 when they suffered a massive loss of subscribers owing to a myriad of different thingsnote . So, in order to address this and recoup the loss, they announced that they were considering adding ads and cracking down on password sharing to boost revenue. The backlash was belligerent and immediate with hordes more people threatening to cancel their subscriptions, as password-sharing is a staple of Netflix (and something they used to even encourage), there are free ad-based streaming services like Roku and Tubi, there's plenty of other paid streaming services to switch to, and of course there's always piracy. In the end, Netflix relented and announced their new plan for ad-based revenue: an ad-containing plan will be a much cheaper, albeit still not free, alternative to their current ad-free plans.
  • According to Adolf Hitler, he was not fond of Himmler's archaeological expeditions for this reason. The attitude among Italian fascists was that the Germans were just an upstart and not a proper Master Race, since the Italians had built the Roman Empire back when Germany was an insignificant backwater ruled by a bunch of illiterate barbarians living in mud huts and hitting each other with stone axes. (Modern archaeologists believe Teutonic society was more sophisticated than that, but they did indeed lack any state approaching the Roman Empire's level of complexity.) Himmler made dozens of expeditions around the world to prove the contrary... and each time, what they mostly found were mud huts and stone axes, all of which were proudly reported on as if they were signs of some great primeval Germanic society. Before long, Himmler started switching to a blatantly supernatural track, claiming that the Aryans were actually descended from Atlantis, of all things. Hitler recognized fairly quickly that all this did was confirm the Italian mockery.
  • A Rhode Island man who was arrested under suspicion of stealing money from vending machines didn't do much to alleviate those suspicions when he tried to pay his bail in quarters.



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