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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

DoodSlayer136 Woagh from Pizza Tower (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Woagh
#182276: Jun 8th 2021 at 6:46:34 PM

Actually, thinking it over, i’m just gonna give a preemptive [tdown] to The Cloaker idea before anyone else does. I only did this because Hamina suggested the idea, by the way.

NOISE IS CALLING, PICK UP PHONE
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#182277: Jun 8th 2021 at 6:50:48 PM

@Cloaker I made that idea mainly because of the Cloaker being a general standout to the entire Law Enforcement in Payday. Unless there are suitable candidates for Instakill Mook, I'm all ears then.

Also, if the Cloaker is not allowed due to becoming a general profile with the rest of the officers, explain Akame being seperated from Night Raid then.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#182278: Jun 8th 2021 at 6:58:48 PM

Anyone know a concise playthrough of 2nd Super Robot Ward Original Generations? I could really use it for my SRW Rework project, starting with Kusuha Mizuha and Elzam von Branstein. I'm currently watching LPs of SRW Impact and Alpha 2.

Feedback Mode

Fae, Goddess of Required Party Members (Divine Dragon, Fa, Murderchicken)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fae_cipher_8.png
  • Intermediate Goddess
  • Symbol: Her dragon form
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Required To Join In Order To Get The Best Ending, Badass Adorable, Killer Rabbit, Dragon Form Is Like A Really Cute Giant Goose, Several Centuries Old, Too Limited Dragonstone, Third-Person Person
  • Domain(s): Dragons, Children, Long Life, Character Selection
  • Followers: Nei, Shandra, The Volunteer, York, Raze, Atsuma
  • Allies: Roy, Lilina, Tiki (as an expy of her), Nowi, Nah, Hector, Ninian, Eliwood, Lyn, Corrin, Wendy Marvell, Paarthurnax
  • Enemies: Grima, Gharnef, Anankos, Ornstein and Smough, Acnologia, Miraak, Alduin, Spyro
  • Fears: The Dovahkiin
  • Sometimes, in order to get certain results, certain members need to participate. Sometimes, they're a liability if you do, but you have to suck it up and bear it, all for the sake of the story, a better ending, or even some beneficial additions later. And the "lucky" candidate selected by the Court via grab bag was Fae, the Divine Dragon of Elibe, and she who needs to survive to track down the real villain of Roy's story Jahn, the man(akete) behind King Zephiel.
  • As for who she is, Fae is a Manakete from the hidden Manakete village of Arcadia. Chronologically, she was first seen standing guard in a house at the Nabata Desert while Eliwood's army was fighting bandits to reach Pent. She also hinted on the existence of hidden items around the place.
    • She would meet his son Roy several years later when he visits Arcadia, but was forbidden to follow him, especially with the current war. Despite that, she managed to sneak out, and then be captured by Bern before Roy rescues her, after which she joins up. At the end of the war, she returns to Nabata, where she fades from Elibian history.
  • She was happy to see Roy and Lilina upon finding them in the Pantheon, after they had parted pays after defeating Jahn and restoring Idunn, and also got to meet their parents. Also, now that they are all deities, she doesn't have to worry about outliving anybody, which was a sentiment Tiki also shared.
    • There were those who worried that her encounter with Lyn might trigger hostility, but her early encounter with Tiki (as well as potentially meeting Fae once before) ensured that that wasn't the case.
  • In her time at Roy's army, she hadn't been allowed to partake much in battle, mainly due to how limited her dragonstone was in terms of usesnote . Thankfully, her excellent Resistance allows her to sponge magic attacks without wasting its uses, which only happens when she has to attack an enemy.
  • Compared to all manaketes after her and Tiki before them, Fae's dragon form looks like a fluffy yellow goose-like thing that wouldn't look out-of-place in an Easter basket. Still no less dangerous, though.
  • Fears the Dovahkiin for…well, hunting dragons, and what would happen after that. Whenever she encounters them, she always tries to hide, either behind Lilina, Roy, or Tiki (as well as Marth after the elder Divine Dragon introduced her to him).
    • She also hates Miraak for the same reasons, with the added bonus of being a narcissistic cult leader also out to brainwash any dragon he could find.
    • That said, she's on better terms with the Dovahkiin's mentor Paarthurnax, as he's a dragon who turned against his species' nature to dominate and destroy. It helps that he's acquainted with Eliwood and Ninian (Roy's parents, maybe in Ninian's case), and is willing to help them out with many evil dragons in the Pantheon. Especially his brother, Alduin.

Oolong, Patron Saint of Fighting Games (Lee)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/oolong_5.png

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
Titania21 CHOSO GOT BAE from Deep Since: Jan, 2020 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
CHOSO GOT BAE
#182279: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:11:55 PM

@Nightelf Sypro is Fae's enemy? I think you need to fix that.

227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018
I hate spoilers
#182280: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:20:20 PM

[up] I've made similar mistakes by listed allies in the enemies section. This is why it's important to proofread your work.

Everyone look at my sandbox
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Bad Movie Binge Collector
#182281: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:37:52 PM

Dr. Belloq would stay away from Kenshiro, a man whose martial arts style causes people to explode by touching certain pressure points. Lucifer (the one from Megami Tensei) looks like David Bowie. Also, I am late (as usual) on the topic of Xehanort, but my guess is that Kirby is enemies with them because either one of them stole his slice of cake and Kirby got pissed, or it's another day on the job and someone else didn't upset him (though at this point, it might as well be suicide to upset him).

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#182282: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:40:59 PM

@Hamana: Because that one worked.

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Jun 8th 2021 at 7:41:22 AM

Time to explore the world!
ReddishGuy1 Since: Jul, 2014
#182283: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:44:58 PM

Are we allowed to propose a character for ascension from a work that's just ended? I understand the rules regarding "hype proposals", but the final episode of this work aired recently, and I've been considering it for a while.

Just imagine something here.
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#182284: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:51:15 PM

[up] You need to wait a bit more before you propose them, because proposing an idea from a work that just ended is considered to be a hype suggestion.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
ReddishGuy1 Since: Jul, 2014
#182285: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:53:55 PM

[up] Got it. How long should I wait?

Just imagine something here.
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#182286: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:58:33 PM

[up] Usually between 2-6 months.

Time to explore the world!
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#182287: Jun 8th 2021 at 7:58:52 PM

[up][up] Going by the Hype Prevention Sandbox, I'd say a two month wait.

([nja]'d)

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jun 8th 2021 at 7:59:08 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#182288: Jun 8th 2021 at 8:15:10 PM

It would be helpful to know what's the work you are talking about.

Uni cat
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#182289: Jun 8th 2021 at 8:15:27 PM

@Bazz Maybe go in depth as to why Akame is an exception then. I also made a point if there was another candidate for Instakill Mook.

Also, Brave Undead, you have proven yourself to me. Now, be one, with the Dark...

Also, the Pantheon page for FTL: Faster Than Light is done.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
Mattman_the_Storyteller Since: Aug, 2018
#182290: Jun 8th 2021 at 8:17:32 PM

Speaking of "hype prevention", I did have two questions regarding it.

  1. Since Attack on Titan and Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba are listed there, should I hold off on my profiles from those seriesnote  until the conditions on that page have been met?
  2. Should I place Balan Wonderworld and World's End Club on that page? I do have characters suggestions from those games, but I want to at least know on whether those ideas should wait or if I can go through with suggesting them.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#182291: Jun 8th 2021 at 8:29:09 PM

[up] Balan Wonderworld release was about 2 months ago so they are fair game.

[up][up] At first yeah she was an outlier and something we dont allow anymore....until the manga ended. Most of her teammates are dead and Night Raid is disbanded and she appears by herself in a sequel manga so that's why she stayed solo.

Uni cat
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#182292: Jun 8th 2021 at 8:33:30 PM

[up][up][up] Eh, I just think you comparing a basic mook being separate to an actual significant character - who also moved on to a separate team after her first group of assassins she worked with got wiped out - has flaws. So, in a sense, I'm saying no to Cloaker.

Time to explore the world!
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uwu
#182293: Jun 8th 2021 at 8:51:41 PM

@Mattman

I think you should hold off the AOT and KNY profiles for as long as they are still in the sandbox. You should also hold off of World's End Tour for later as the game released a week and half ago.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jun 8th 2021 at 9:14:21 AM

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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#182294: Jun 8th 2021 at 9:17:06 PM

Beefed up Lulu's profile again think she is almost done now for sure.

Lulu, Goddess of Having Lots of Belts (Lu, Yuna's Guardian.)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lulu_04.png
  • Lesser Goddess
  • Symbol: Her Moogle Doll
  • Theme Song: heard here
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Goths who can use magic Elegant black magic users, Slaps that can be used as a Counter-Attack, Dolls as weapons, Not evil at all but really having lots of baggage, Dark haired, reserved women who slowly warm up, Snarkers, Mama Bear.
  • Domains: Belts, Black Magic, Family, Goths
  • Heralds: Wakka (her husband), Kimahri, Rikku
  • Allies: Yuna (and Rydia also), Tidus, Jecht, Midna, Tomoko Nozama, the other Lulu, Vivi Ornitier, Tharja, Charmcaster, Zatanna Zatara, Nine, the Phantom, Lucy Heartfilla.
  • Enemies: Yu Yevon, Chaos, Kefka Palazzo, Ultimecia, Ouroboros, Grima, Acnologia, Emet-Selch, and essentially evil gods in the House of Faith.
  • Pities: Jecht, Zeref.
  • Lulu grew up with Yuna in Besaid akin to an adoptive sister for the young summoner in training. After losing her first summoner and lover, she decided upon completing the pilgrimage with Yuna becoming her guardian during their journey to defeat Sin, and as fate would have it Lulu ended up being wedded with her Fiance's brother despite the earlier hesitation after Wakka's brother passed away. Initially, the personality she gave towards the group was bottled within however after meeting Tidus and becoming closer to Wakka eventually she overcome this mindset letting her feelings be known to everyone.
    • Naturally, the idea of monsters who either exist to cause suffering or corrupted worshipped deities who take delight in slaughtering millions for their own pleasure sickens the black mage resulting in her hatred for the teaching of Yu Yevon and inhuman beasts like Grima, Ouroboros, and Acnologia. Yu Yevon, the former man in particular is something Lulu hates because of how his ideas ultimately led to the deaths of people like Jecht and other summoners for a worthless cause that will only make more false pilgrimages for years to come until Yuna and her guardians broke this cycle.
  • Lulu doesn't seem to mind being in the House of Personal Appearance as she is still able to meet with Yuna all the time. Many gods are in wonder as to how the hell she manages to put that belt skirt of hers on (and why she even has one in the first place). She just answers that someone of a 'higher power' put it in as a challenge.
    • Yuna and Tidus are thrilled to see her getting along with others in the Pantheon, but she still prefers to hang out with her fellow guardian and sister having to no longer deal with Spira's endless cycle of suffering.
    • Lulu is very conflicted with Jecht, a man who could be seen as a terrible father figure however considering the circumstances he didn't really have many other ways to handle the situation. She also knew Auron wanted nothing more than for him and Tidus to become closer even with all the history between them. A sentiment Lulu knew would come true without Yu Yevon getting in the way something that everyone agreed upon.
  • Alice Marguretoid sometimes helps with her doll collection, but Lulu's uses of dolls are different: they're more of a way to channel her focus into using her magic.
  • Tomoko looks up to her as a big sister due to Lulu's Goth-like apparel and attitude. Lulu smiles at Tomoko and considers her relationship with Ryusei to be adorable.
  • After meeting the other Lulu, she admits that she starts to become fond of her at times, and in exchange, teaches her some black magic in hopes to further break out of the shell of being distant from others in the vast houses of the Pantheon.
  • Other dark magic users such as Charmcaster, Zatanna, and Tharja were impressed by how Lulu was able to bust out powerful spells while looking the way that she does in Spira. Chuckling at the compliment, such magic users quickly took a fondness with Lulu and her many belts as well.
    • Zeref had to wonder how Lulu could live in a world where life and death continued to led to pointless deaths for a short moment of peace, which reminded him of the many tragedies and people he cared about who would die while he still lived forever due to his curse. She quickly reminded the former black mage that life wasn't easy for neither of them, but the fact he and Yuna's best friend did overcome all their pain and suffering to finally be "reborn" both figuratively and in Zeref's case literally made the losses worth it.
  • Lucy might not dabble in the darker arts, she is still quite a talented mage of Fairy Tail and her carefree spirit reminded Lulu of the Al-Bhed guardian Rikku. She only hoped that someday she and the other guardians could meet the rest of Lucy's guild in person.

Mileena Madness
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uwu
#182295: Jun 8th 2021 at 9:34:18 PM

[up] You need to beef up on certain texts like with Alice, Tomoko and the Fairy Tail cast.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#182296: Jun 8th 2021 at 10:05:01 PM

First draft of these Futurama deities. Any actor in the pantheon with a similar line of work to Calculon? What other three stooges parody is there?

Antonino Calculon Sr, God of Over The Top In-Universe Soap Shows (Calculon, Acting Unit 0.8, Thespa-mat, David Duchovny)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Calculon_7779.png

Walt, Larry and Igner, Triumvirate Gods Of Three Stooges Parodies

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Left to right-Larry, Walt and Igner

Alecoene Since: Sep, 2016
#182297: Jun 9th 2021 at 12:56:31 AM

@nightelf: Oolong can also be rival with his fellow kung-fu practitioners from Kung Fu Panda. For Fae, Latias is another cute dragon that can change into human form.

Also, made one last-minute change to Mateus. He just needs one vote.

Emperor Mateus, God of Taking Over The Afterlife (The Emperor, Emperor of Hell, Emperor of Heaven, Trap Master, Nameless Despot)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/the_emperor_01.png
As the Emperor of Hell 
As the Emperor of Heaven 
  • Votes: 4 (Bazzardreturns, Tropers/Excessive-Menace, Sailor Venus 372, igordebraga)
  • Theme Song: Battle Scene II
  • Intermediate God, Greater God as the Emperor of Hell and the Emperor of Heaven
  • Symbol: The staff by which he rules.
  • Alignment: Lawful Evil
  • Heralds: The still-loyal citizens of Palamecia and The forces of Pandemonium
  • Portfolio: The Emperor, later God-Emperor, Usurping the thrones of Hell and Heaven by means of his own death, Trap based magics, Starfall, godly imagery and mentality, Faux Affably Evil, Clever strategist, Pure evil, Only called by his title, Very pretty-looking, Not taking any chances, Doesn't have any faith in humanity, Soul split into his dark and light half
  • Domains: Godhood, Empires, Rule, Heaven, Hell.
  • Allies:
  • Enemies: Firion, All the other good-aligned Final Fantasy deities, Golbez, Kuja, Jecht, Tidus, Mori Motonari, David Xanatos, Lelouch vi Britannia, Nagisa Misumi and Honoka Yukishiro, Laharl, The Seven Mortal Sins, Black Mage Evilwizardington, The Saint of Killers, The Night Raid,Zamasu
  • Rivals: Melkor, YHVH, All those who have leadership over an afterlife
  • Some people are born with a rare unbidden ambition, one that pushes them to reach higher and higher for all of their life, and even beyond. The Emperor of the nation of Palamecia was one such soul who sought to control the whole world, even enlisting the help of the Legions of Hell to conquer it. His campaign of domination was nearly unstoppable, which eventually resulted in the sole resistance being the Wild Rose Rebellion, formed from the remnant of the conquered kingdom of Flynn. Though things seemed utterly hopeless, they nonetheless managed to finally kill the tyrant... But death couldn't stop his desire. Upon his passing, his soul was split into a 'dark' half, which went to Hell, and a 'light' half, which went to Heaven. Each promptly conquered their respective afterlives, deposing the dark and light forces. After which, the Emperor of Hell returned to the mortal realm with his demonic forces to lay waste to it, only to be defeated by the same heroes who killed him. At the same time, the Emperor of Heaven called upon the souls of those his empire had killed to try to convince them to forgive him, only for those same souls to rise up and slay him. Thus was his evil finally over, or so it was thought.
  • The Emperor, in a state where both parts of his souls were brought back together, was one of the many warriors called upon by Lord Chaos to act as his servants in an unending cycle of battles, which the ambitious human had accepted only with the goal to take control of both his lord's forces and that of their nemesis, Cosmos. While he failed in that and died once more, Chaos once more called upon him in the Pantheon, even managing to get him the title of those who conquer afterlives. The Emperor's ascension was merely the beginning. Upon learning that there were so many seats of power above the thrones he had taken for himself in his own world and that they were involved in a Forever War that spread across the whole Pantheon, he had decided to extends his original plans and to eventually find a way to usurp the thrones of all of the Great Alliances, so that he can become ruler of all that exists.
  • Since Firion is the hero who has slain him twice, it goes without saying that Emperor absolutely despises him and wishes for nothing less than his complete destruction, and it isn't helped by the fact that the rebel hero carry the Blood Sword, a weapon which can effortlessly destroy even the Emperor's mightier forms. The sentiment is very much reciprocated as Firion is filled with rage towards the despot for all the suffering he brought to his friends and the rest of the world. And so, the two are once more staunch archenemies, and the rest of the heroic Final Fantasy have likewise followed the Salamand native in opposing the emperor, especially since a good number of them already were his enemies when they were serving under Cosmos.
  • Initially, The Emperor once more worked alongside other Final Fantasy villains under the god Chaos, though he naturally planned to betray them just as he did back when they first fought together. However, this alliance was quickly undermined when Kuja and Golbez ended up leaving the forces of evil and joining up with good. This act quickly irked the Emperor, who swore that he would have the heads of the two traitors for this. And there is tension even amongst those who remained on Chaos's side, as he despises Exdeath and Kefka for their plans to destroy the world, leaving nothing for him to rule. Still, he acknowledges their powers and so tries to remain on their good sides so that he can use them wisely.
    • Another 'traitor' he's been targeting is Jecht, and the animosity is very reciprocated in this case, as the Emperor is the one who brainwashed him to the side of Chaos in the first place. By extension, he also is hated by the former blitzball champion's son, Tidus, who also used to fight for Chaos. The despot couldn't care less that his dirty deeds tore their family even further apart, he just hates the thought of losing pawns.
    • Naturally, this meant that he was by extension serving under Melkor in the Grand United Alliance of Evil. However, this changed when he was approached by Darkseid, who sought to recruit the Emperor's cunning and power for the Harbingers Of Repression after hearing about his conquests. Seeing that Darkseid's ideal of a dystopia appealed to him much more than Melkor's spiteful evil, the mage monarch accepted the offer to join. Though he kept his ties with Chaos and, as always, he fully plans on finding a way to bring down Darkseid and become the new God of Tyranny.
  • In the Pantheon, The Emperor can split himself into his Emperor of Hell and his Emperor of Heaven halves. While they're both the same egotistical tyrant in the end, his 'dark half' is more openly misanthropic and primarily focuses on laying waste to the world and destroying everything on it, bringing him closer to the ideals of the Grand United Alliance of Evil, and the 'light half' casts himself as a higher and benevolent being, who offers salvation and blessings to wicked humanity, which allowed him to more easily approach the similarly conceited members of the Grand United Alliance of Law. Yet despite those differences, the two have no problem working with one another. In fact, their differing personalities are part of a ploy by the Emperor to take the thrones of the Alliances they're respectively closer to, then unite them to conquer the rest of the Pantheon. Yet both Melkor and YHVH are heard about his exploits, and so are justifiably wary around any of his selves.
    • Hearing of an Heart that was pure evil, even after being purged of its darkness, heavily interested Master Xehanort and his other selves, and the old Keyblade master has approached the Emperor to study it. While the despot doesn't care much for his ultimate goal of purging darkness from people's hearts, he did grow interested in how Xehanort deliberately splitting himself into his Heartless and Nobody to accomplish his plans was much similar to his own successes with his two halves. As such, he has welcomed the latter's attempt to investigate him, and even has been trying to get advice on using time travel to possibly split himself furthermore so that he can have a 'representative' for each alliance. Additionally, since the Emperor of Hell is his incarnated darkness, he can control the Heartless without any dangers, something which he eagerly takes advantage of.
    • Naturally, a good number of deities are horrified by the fact that the Emperor is so nefarious that even his 'good' side is pure evil. On the other hand, Vanitas find the fact that his darkness and light are as evil as the other hilarious and is glad to work with the tyrant on his scheme, something was helped by his tie to Xehanort. However, the three can't help but wonder if the union of his split halves could possibly invoke the X-Blade, something which they are all eager to find out.
  • The Emperor has proven himself to be an expert schemer and in fact was the primary brain behind the Warriors of Chaos during the Dissidia conflict, and in fact was the one that came up with their overall plan. He's also completely relentless in his schemes and seldom gives any chance to his enemies, as was proven by his conquest of the world. Of course, any advice he offers is tainted by the fact that he plans to betray any authorities so that he can be the one to stands above all. He's naturally wary around the likes of Motonari or David Xanatos. Though he refuses to admit anyone could possess a greater mind than his own, he is wise enough to make plans that would protect himself against them. Another deity he has grown wary of is Lelouch vi Brittania, especially after hearing that the young man managed to utterly destroy an empire that had ruled over a great part of the world for a century. Lelouch himself despises the Emperor for reminding him of the worst excesses of Brittania, and so the two have been making their own plans on how to eventually dispose of the other.
  • A lot of deities have noted that he looks very much like the legendary singer David Bowie, and more than a few of them confused the two on occasion. While the Emperor doesn't have much of an opinion on music or on Bowie himself, the fact that he could be likened to a powerless mere mortal like him anger the prideful despot. Anyone who calls him by that name is bound to get into all sorts of trouble with traps later on.
    • He also flipped off when Nagisa Misumi/Cure Black and Honoka Yukishiro/Cure White mistook him as a reincarnated Pissard, who, you guessed it, looked like David Bowie. The battle raged for a long time and by the end of it, The Emperor has come to hate the two magical girls. As for the two of them, while they did recognize that he wasn't actually Pissard after all, they still staunchly oppose his ambitious and tyrannical way.
    • This resemblance to Bowie also got him comparisons to Jareth, especially when it comes to the way they dress. The Emperor, for his part, grew fascinated by the Goblin King's labyrinth and how he can change every facet of it on a whim. And so, the despot decided to strike an agreement with him so that he can study his labyrinth in the hope of modifying Pandemonium and Arubboth so that he can have an equivalent mastership of them. In exchange, he has been teaching some of his spells to the fairy-like being.
  • For a very long time, nobody knew his actual name, as he felt no need to be known by anything lesser than the title that shows his eventual rulership over all. An alternate telling of his tale gave him the name Mateus, but this story also showed him as completely manipulated by Satan and never managing to conquer Hell for himself. Naturally, the arrogant monarch absolutely despised something that made him look like a pawn and so refused to acknowledge it. But it eventually turned out during the wars between Chaos and Cosmos that Mateus was actually his name, though he still never use it.
  • Quite naturally, he has been planning on taking over other afterlives, of which there are many tied to the various gods of the Pantheon. Upon learning about how Laharl managed to become Overlord of his Netherworld by simple martial might, as did Lucifer of the Seven Mortal Sins with Hell, he has been making plans to defeat them and take their realms for their own. Both have already heard of the guy's reputation and are naturally quite against this, which means they're fully preparing themselves to fight him eventually. He thinks of the Hell that the Helltaker visited as quite an easy target, since its greatest demons were easily recruited into a mortal man's harem for pancakes of all things. Yet, unexpectedly, he has shown nothing but courtesy towards the visiting angel Azazel, who was fascinated by the thought of a mortal sinful enough to conquer Hell. He seems more than happy to answer all of her questions and to guide her. In truth, he has learned about she grew powerful enough to take over the place herself in an alternate timeline, and so has decided to deliberately guide her along that part so that he can have a powerful ally.
    • There are others in the Pantheon who accomplished the feat of taking over an afterlife. The psychotic adventurer known as Black Mage managed to take over Hell due to his immense evil, but any thoughts in the Emperor's mind about a possible alliance of convenience were quickly squashed by the mage's stupidly destructive impulses. And so, the despot has designated him as a threat to simply eliminate. Upon learning about how the Saint of Killers took over both Hell and Heaven yet had no interest in ruling himself, he had tried to coax him into his services. He was quickly shot down quite literally by the Saint, who pointed out he was no better than the version of God from his world.
  • Quite naturally, his despotic ways have earned him the ire of other freedom fighters such as The Night Raid, who swore that they would remove his evil forever. The Emperor would scoff at this, but his experiences with the Wild Rose had taught him very well that even such paltry resistance shouldn't be underestimated, and so he has been planning on how to dispose of the assassins.
  • Upon hearing about how a mere mortal usurped the divine positions, Zamasu immediately went ballistics and swore that he would destroy the Emperor and every last one of his accomplishments from reality for the sins of tainting the realm of the gods with mortal wickedness. The despot just laughed at his face, unimpressed by the usual hypocrisy of the Supreme Kai who betrayed his own divine master before exterminating every other deity, then pointed out that they both want to be masters of everything, he's just honest about it.
    • On the other spectrum of tyrannical divinities, the God of Control Yaoldaboth became interested in The Emperor, both because he himself usurped the divinely-appointed role of Igor and because he very much approves of a single empire where free thought is forbidden controlling the entire world. And so, he has approached the mage to offer an alliance, adding that should the latter somehow manage his plans to take over the Pantheon, he would be glad to help him make a world of perfect order. Having very little objections with that as long as he's on top of everything, Mateus accepted.
  • For some time, his plans had been interfered with by members of the Rebel Alliance, who seemed to confuse his activities with that of a man that is also mainly called The Emperor. Curious about this coincidence, Mateus went to meet with Sheev Palpatine, the fellow despot in question. Upon talking to each other, the two quickly became interested in each other plans for total rule and immortality respectively. They rapidly decided to ally together so that their empires can form an unified font, though they naturally both are planning to backstab their allies eventually.

Edited by Alecoene on Jun 9th 2021 at 11:31:04 AM

I--Vanya--I A bee, a beetle and a moth from Belarus Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
A bee, a beetle and a moth
#182298: Jun 9th 2021 at 2:04:34 AM

[up][tup]

Vi: Well, it's not like we're getting attacked by a giant wasp spider guardian! | Leif: Never combine those words ever again.
Alecoene Since: Sep, 2016
#182299: Jun 9th 2021 at 2:40:16 AM

[up] And with this, the Emperor rise in power once more

And I'm proposing this very silly idea once more.

Chifusa Manyuu, Goddess of Larger Breasts Associated With Beauty

  • Reasoning: Her world basically revolves around that trope pushed to its logical extreme. The size of a woman's breasts determines a woman's attractiveness, wealth and status, with better-endowed women being granted more privilege. It's to the point that a group called the Manyuu clan is a group dedicated to making sure privilege stays in nobility by using breast-reducing techniques on lower-class women. The heir Chifusa chose to rebel against such tyranny by using the ancestral against the evil nobles and to help commoners grow their own breasts to change the regime. Litchi Faye-Ling has this trope, but she also has Hospital Hottie and I think Chifusa fits better if only because of how much her show revolve around it.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#182300: Jun 9th 2021 at 3:09:10 AM

[up][tup]Good reasoning

I have adopted an idea. Do you guys like it?

  • Muriel P. Finster, Goddess of Skintone Sclerae (House of Eye Appearances, Lawful Neutral)-adopted from Phantom Fire. Why might she fit the trope? For the former, she doesn't have whites, just pupils, and she's the only character in the series that have this

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Jun 9th 2021 at 8:09:48 PM


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