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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#156726: Feb 26th 2020 at 10:14:16 AM

[up][up] Your profile isn't properly formatted. You need to add * to create the bullet points that profiles are supposed to have.

In another few hours, the sun will rise.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#156727: Feb 26th 2020 at 10:18:50 AM

[up][up][up] My recommendation would be to check Text-Formatting Rules first

[up][up] Considering Tricky is one of the foes he tends to face, how about enemies with most evil clowns?

And he dies a lot, make him friends with Kenny Mc Cormick

Uni cat
kingvideogames Every Kel Profile is Canon from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Every Kel Profile is Canon
#156728: Feb 26th 2020 at 10:28:41 AM

@Bird, hold up, nobody even gave you the ok to work on Wade.

Time to rise and shine. Good morning!
r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#156729: Feb 26th 2020 at 10:30:08 AM

I might have mentioned this before, but I did mention a possible idea of letting the U.S. Acres cast get Down on the Farm back then.

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#156730: Feb 26th 2020 at 10:30:22 AM

George and Karl: George basically went through Sanity Slippage. This actually gives a bunch of ideas.

Allies with Rutile and Stella (note her brand of sowing chaos is basically pranks/trolling). They went through a similar path (Rutile having to knock some sanity into Stella’s head).

Keiichi Maebara and Rena Ryuguu went through a similar thing (Keiichi being the Karl, Rena being the George), though in Rena’s case, a nasty brain parasite and Gas Lighting by a sadistic Troll were involved.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#156731: Feb 26th 2020 at 10:42:51 AM

[up] George was slightly gaslighted by Rafaam too tho

I think i finally found a good trope for Bob: Gameplay Automation.

Since he became the face of Battlegrounds and the gameplay is based around buying minions from him so they battle for you, i think that could lend itself for a deity. Especially because i don't know any other Autobattlers that have a character that represents them

Uni cat
yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#156732: Feb 26th 2020 at 10:43:16 AM

@BirdAracuan I can confirm you did not get approval to work this profile. Suffice to say, that's not allowed.

In another few hours, the sun will rise.
TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018
#156733: Feb 26th 2020 at 1:15:30 PM

First post of the Fahrenheit protagonists. Anything else I can add?

No-[tup] Mode

Lucas Kane, Carla Valenti and Tyler Miles, Gods and Goddess of Out-of-Genre Occurences
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fahrenheit_2005_protagonists_2.png
From left to right: Lucas Kane, Carla Valenti and Tyler Miles
  • Intermediate God, possibly Overdeity after learning the secret of the universe (Lucas), Demideities (Carla and Tyler)
  • Symbol: The Fahrenheit logo◊
  • Theme Song: Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy Main Title
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Out-of-Genre Occurences, Action Commands, Dueling Player Characters, Halfway Plot Switch, Private Eye Monologue, Sanity Meter
  • Domain(s): Genre, Mystery, Murder, Detectives
  • Allies: Norman Jayden, Jodie Holmes and Aiden, The Virtua Cops, Lucia Morgan, Caitlyn, Vi, Most of the House of Justice
  • Enemies: Scott Shelby, Hannibal Lecter, YHVH and the Grand United Alliance of Law, The Illuminati, AM, Skynet, Master Control Program, HAL 9000, SHODAN
  • On a cold night in New York City in January 2009, a man was stabbed to death in the restroom of an East Side diner, with the killer, Lucas Kane, fleeing the scene shortly after. Detectives Carla Valenti and Tyler Miles were put in charge of solving the murder. However, what began as a murder mystery eventually escalated into a fantastical story involving Mayan cults, evil A.I. and supernatural powers.
  • Lucas Kane suddenly appeared within the Pantheon one day, with no idea of how he had gotten there. Initially suspecting the Oracle and the Orange Clan had tried to kidnap him in order to acquire the secret of the universe, Lucas was brought to the Main House and informed that the Orange Clan weren't present in the Pantheon. Simultaneously confused and relieved, Lucas proceeded to tell his story to the gods. When he concluded his story, the gods were quite impressed with how it got gradually stranger as it went along and offered to ascend him. He accepted, but requested that his wife Carla Valenti and her partner Tyler Miles ascend alongside him, which was granted.
  • They quickly managed to befriend Norman Jayden, Jodie Holmes and Aiden, whom they suspect might originate from the same world. While Norman occasionally teams up with Carla and Tyler, Jodie tends to hang out more with Lucas, whom she bonded with◊ due to him also having powers and his ability to perceive Aiden.
  • They're also on good terms with law enforcers such as the Virtua Cops, Lucia Morgan, Caitlyn and Vi. While not a police officer himself, Lucas' powers allow him to work more efficiently and keep up better with Caitlyn and Vi.
  • They strongly oppose serial killers like Scott Shelby and Hannibal Lecter. Lucas dislikes Shelby due to the ordeal that he had put Ethan through, which reminds Lucas of how he himself had been possessed by the Oracle in order to kill someone. On the other hand, Carla is greatly unnerved by Hannibal Lecter due to how much he reminds her of what she experienced with Anton Janos at Bellevue Asylum.
  • Due to their experiences with the Orange Clan, they strongly dislike any conspiracy groups who seek to control other people. As a result, they oppose YHVH and the Grand United Alliance of Law as well as the Illuminati. Lucas suspects that members of those groups might have been responsible for his presence in the Pantheon in order to acquire the secret of the universe, which makes him especially wary of them.
  • Similarly, their encounters with the Purple Clan have resulted in them strongly opposing evil A.I. As such, they quickly became enemies with AM, Skynet, Master Control Program, HAL 9000 and SHODAN.
  • Lucas only:
    • Born and raised on a remote Wishita military base by his scientist parents, Lucas had periodic clairvoyant visions since his early childhood for reasons he did not understand. The disturbing nature of those visions had a severe emotional impact on him as a child, driving him to isolate himself from others. As an adult, Lucas worked as an IT manager and head of computer maintenance for the Naser & Jones Bank in Manhattan. However, his simple life was turned upside down when he was suddenly possessed by an unearthly force that drove him to murder a random man in the bathroom of a local diner. His visions, which had long been dormant, suddenly resurfaced with an increased frequency and potency following the events at the diner. He also discovered that since that night, he possessed enhanced speed, strength and reflexes, as well as the emergence of telekinetic abilities and temporary flight.
    • Lucas became good friends with Neo after noticing how much he their powers resembled each other. He's also on good terms with Gandalf and Phoenix Ikki, as he's also returned from death stronger than he was before.
  • Carla only:
    • Carla was born in Brooklyn, New York to Giuseppe Valenti and Anne Irpino as an only child, she is of Italian-American descent. Carla was known among the other members of the NYPD for her intense work ethic and commitment to the job, to the point that it appeared excessive. However, in reality, her devotion to her work was, in part, her own way of compensating for her lack of any personal life and few friends. Carla is naturally inquisitive and completionist, tending to brood over cases which appear to go nowhere, and is prepared to spend long hours poring over evidence in the hopes of finding one vital clue which may have been missed.
    • Her experience with interrogating serial killers resulted in her befriending Will Graham and Clarice Starling, whom she regularly teams up with in pursuit of apprehending Hannibal Lecter. Her claustrophobia also caused her to bond with Captain Hawkeye Pierce and Storm of the X-Men, both of whom share her phobia.
  • Tyler only:
    • Tyler Miles grew up in the Bronx and has three brothers and two sisters. He lead a rough life and this gave him passion for his police work in the hopes of making a difference, to the dismay of his fiance Samantha Malone due to her terror of him being hurt in the line of duty. Tyler, contrary to Carla's serious bearing, has a much more lackadaisical and upbeat attitude towards life, but his devotion to the job and to his fiance is unquestionable.
    • He's on very good terms with Luke Cage, who respects him for his similar desire to make New York a safer place. He also managed to bond with Ichiro Sato and Ryoko Sato, whose break up and subsequent getting back together again reminds him of his own ordeals with his fiance Sam. He also managed to befriend the Autobot Jazz due to their shared taste in music.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on Feb 26th 2020 at 10:58:07 AM

BirdAracuan Since: Feb, 2020
#156734: Feb 26th 2020 at 1:28:28 PM

I'm sorry for that, but when I tried to get the approval, no one gave told me Yes or No. Do you mind give me the approval for starting the ascension, now?

Edited by BirdAracuan on Feb 26th 2020 at 4:10:42 AM

keyblade333 Ferdinand Von Aegir fan from In the void between worlds. Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Ferdinand Von Aegir fan
#156735: Feb 26th 2020 at 2:02:48 PM

[up]As frustrating as that can be, its better to wait and get approval before starting. You can also start the profile as a template, but don't post until its confirmed you can take it.

Edit: No. What about them makes them qualified for the trope in question? You gotta sell it to us.

Unrelated, but since I'm on the subject of Final Fantasy XIV, the profile for Gaius van Baelsar is very out of date. Unless someone wants to use The Musketeer, a rework is in order.

Edited by keyblade333 on Feb 26th 2020 at 2:20:08 AM

Muramasa got.
yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#156736: Feb 26th 2020 at 2:05:21 PM

[up][up] not getting an answer =/= approval

In another few hours, the sun will rise.
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#156737: Feb 26th 2020 at 3:56:04 PM

I don't like to annoy folks with this again, but until I get a definitive answer, I cannot let this rest and be forgotten yet.

What's the verdict so far on the whole Biker Babe debate?

I didn't get a clear answer last page. Someone approved of my proposed candidate, but then there's also whether to change Kallen's trope as well.

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#156738: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:00:14 PM

Before I do the Sohma's, I would like to rework Tohru with Stock Shoujo Heroine, as that's a more fitting trope for her (I already explained why she fits in earlier posts) first. Can I get any approvals so I can get going? Sorry if this is annoying, I just want explicit approvals first before working on them.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#156739: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:05:10 PM

[up]Yes.

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#156740: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:36:49 PM

Are there any deities who hate Onis? Also, any good way to phrase the title of Goroawase Number? If not, im done with this profile.

Hiro and Zero Two, Dual Deities of Goroawase Number (Hiro: Code:016, Darling, Madman, Local Dinoboy. Zero Two: Code:002, Nine Iota, O-NI, eo to, Potato Two, Local Dinogirl)

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Zero Two and Hiro
Click here  for their Klaxo form.
  • Theme Song: Kiss of Death. Remix ver
  • Rank: Hiro (Demigod). Zero Two (Lesser Goddess). In Strelizia (Intermediate). Strelizia True Apus (Greater)
  • Symbol: Jian Bird. Alternatively their picture book or the cherry blossom tree
  • Alignment: True Neutral (Hiro). Chaotic Neutral (Zero Two). Later on Neutral Good (both)
  • Portfolio: Being Compare to the Jian, Dance of Romance, Interspecies Romance, Beast and Beauty, Only Interested in Each Other, Official Couple, Laser-Guided Amnesia, Red Oni, Blue Oni, Can't Live Without Each Other, Being Reborn to Continue Their Love
  • Domains: Romance, Combat, Mecha,
  • Allies: Team Dai-Gurren, Ryuko Matoi and Senketsu, Kaito Kirishima and Ichika Takatsuki, Izuku Midoriya, EVA Pilots, Belle and Beast, Ariel and Prince Eric, Yuya Sakaki and Yuzu Hiiragi, Miia, Lum Invader, Raleigh Becket and Mako Mori, Winnie the Pooh, Katniss Everdeen, The Liar Princess and the Blind Prince, Morrigan
  • Enemies: Anti-Spiral, Lorenzo Keels, Sora Takigawa, Ragyo Kiryuin, Zero, Hojo, Mesogog
  • Parasites, children made for the sole purpose of serving APE in the war against the Klaxosaurs. None of them given names, just numbers. But that changed when a boy name Hiro gave some of his fellow Parasites names based on their numbers which spread around the Plantation.
  • Seperating the two is seen as a very bad move. Not only would they end up emotionally broken, they would do very crazy things to be together. Especially for Hiro who is known for his reckless action. Something both admired and questioned by others.
  • Both Hiro and Zero Two mistook both Scanty and Kneesock as Klaxosaurs since they look like Zero Two's Klaxosaur form. While the Demon Sisters didn't flinch at the comparison, they did when Hiro thought they were Zero Two's aunts.
  • Both became friends with the Dai-Gurren Team with their dynamics being very familiar to them and their friends. Some people have often compare Hiro's determination to that of Kamina. Funny enough, it seems Hiro often quotes Kamina's "Believe" speech. The couple were also been compared to Simon and Nia when it comes to devotion and tragic romance. Though, Hiro and Zero Two were at least lucky enough to to be reincarnated to restart their romance.
  • One of Zero Two's greatest regret was her utter obsession of becoming human to the point it caused her to act like the monster she despise being called and also nearly killing her Darling. Because of that she doesn't have high opinions to those who would do dangerous things to be human. Like Sora aka Gremlin.
  • Zero Two learned she isn't the only monster girl who calls her love interest Darling when she met the space oni Lum and snake girl Miia. The trio do get along pretty well with the exception being their competitiveness on who is the better "Darling".
  • The two Franxx pilots got along very well with the Jaeger pilots of Raleigh Becket and Mako Mori since their mechs followed the "two pilots, one mind" set up.
  • The two once met Ryuko Matoi and Senketsu and hit it off pretty well. The four were able to connect because of some similarity between them; Hiro and Senketsu being utterly devoted to their female partners that they will risk anything for them and Zero Two and Ryuko being troubled girls with issues being hybrids but being able to cope thanks to their partners. They also realized that they each become stronger the closer they are with their Partners.
  • Hiro has shown admiration to Katniss Everdeen when he learned about how she stood up against her society that would place children in death games. Especially when those who did it were adults. Hiro has a sour spot on adults who would use kids.
  • Both Hiro and Zero got a chance to interact with their predecessor of the "putting kids in giant robot battling monsters with physiological and sexual issues" with the EVA Children. The group are often contrast amongst themselves with Hiro being seen more proactive and who is able to express his love to his Love Interest compare to Shinji and Zero Two as the red headed love interest with emotional issues with Jerkass tendency who was able to get better when compare to Asuka and being a more emotional artificial creation to Rei. Though, neither group want to hear the compare/contrast of lover goes comatose with one boy not wanking off over her body.
    • Both pilots have also express their anger against Lorenzo Keele and Gendo Ikari. The first because his plan for Intrumentality meant putting everybody in the world in one mind which reminds them of VIRMS own plan. And for Gendo it's because as a father he was willing to manipulate his own son for his own gain.
  • The duo have gottton along very well with some of the fairy tales couples that dealt with curses like Ariel/Eric and Belle/Beast. But they have been most closest to the Liar Princess and Blind Princes since they reminded them of the picture book they both cherish.
  • Because of the cruel experiments Hiro saw Zero Two gone through, he developed a hatred towards scientists who would cruelly experiment on others like Hojo.
  • Despite her name, Zero Two has has no relations with the Kirby villain Zero. Despite that, the eye creature can sometimes be seen hovering around the female pilot.
  • Despite their appearance or their name, the two aren't related to onis or dinosaurs. Despite that, Mesogog has shown interest in the off chance their genes do contain traces of dinosaurs DNA.
  • Zero Two has been shown hanging around Morrigan Aensland. It seems the succubus has been teaching the klaxo girl in ways to entice her darling. What ever that means.

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#156741: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:40:14 PM

Anyone know how long a typical Pantheon story is?

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#156742: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:40:58 PM

[up]In the past they did have multiple chapters.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#156743: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:43:03 PM

@Whirl Number-based Names?

[tup] for both

Uni cat
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#156744: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:47:45 PM

Standard repost of The Morrigan. Is the Dark Star ready to go up?

The Morrigan, Goddess of Being Spelled With A "The" (Morrigu, Great/Phantom Queen, Anu, Macha and Badb)

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  • Votes: 3(louisent31, fasoman1996, The Wikia Editor)
  • Date of ascension: 3 March(repost 27 February and 1 March)
  • House: Naming Convention (House of Naming)
  • Greater Goddess
  • Symbol: Her crow form
  • Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
  • Portfolio: Blood Knight and War Goddess, Spell My Name with a "The", The High Queen, Crow Association, The Chessmaster at Breaking The Haughty (or those who don't really deserve it), Rewards Those Who Past Her Test, Really Gets Around, Cryptic Conversation, Anti-Heroic Dark Gods, Triple Goddess
  • Domains: War, Fertility, Fate, Crows
  • Respects: Asura
  • Fond of: Yousoke Otoha aka Karas
  • Allies: Boudica, Ares, Khorne, Bellona, Morrigan and Lilith Aensland, Beerus, The Murkrow horde
  • On good terms with: The House of Plants as a whole
  • Rivals: Bandos, other war gods (including allies)
  • Enemies: YHVH, Athena, Hexxus, rapists, anyone unfortunate enough to piss her off
  • Of the various Celtic deities, one of the most notorious is The Morrigan. A triple goddess, she is mainly associated with war and fate. A shadowy deity who encourages warriors to do brave deeds and able to bring victory against one's opponent, she is also associated with fertility and blood. The Morrigan does this through her wits, and is guaranteed to ruin your life if you truly offend her.
  • Associated with several related beings, such as Nemain (a spirit-women representing the frenzy of war), Macha (a goddess or one of The Fair Folk), and warrior goddess Badb. Some have associated her with Morgan le Fay, but there isn't a connection. King Arthur found this to be a relief. She(at least the ascended version of The Morrigan) isn't connected to the Dagda of the Amala Network either. She's rather stay clear of that multiverse' squabbles, and finds that version of the Dagda weird compared to the one she's familiar with.
  • She was happy to see that Boudica was already in the pantheon, as there aren't many in the pantheon who were Celtic mortals in life. That, and Boudica she has the kind of warrior spirit and vengeance that she respects. Roman deities she cares less for, but that's more of a concern for mortals. She doesn't get why there are two Neros though.
  • Demands to be referred to as The Morrigan, not Morrigan. Yes, it causes some confusion, but not like she cares. It is a way of distinguishing herself from Morrigan Aensland, who the Morrigan seems to be fond of. There's general respect, but the Morrigan's lasciviousness was a trait that got her to like anti-heroic succubi for.
  • Her ascension to the pantheon is not the first time she has met gods from other pantheons. The Battleground of the Gods was primed for her to manipulate. She was put off by Bellona's bloodlust, though people were quick to point her out as being hypocritical as an unashamed manipulator who revels in chaos and war. Asides from that, the Morrigan and Bellona get along just fine because of their similar personalities and fields in their respective mythologies.
  • Capable of crafting pretty nasty fates for those who piss her off. It's thought that she was behind the death of Cu Chulainn for scorning her. You usually have to directly anger her to incur her wrath, and the Morrigan does graciously reward those who pass her tests. This personality might be why she and Beerus have a cordial relationship; they love the fight, can be jerks but have a lot of good attributes, and everyone knows not to mess with them.
  • The Morrigan tends to get along with other war deities, or at least is their rival. Often a mix of both. The big fact exception to this is Athena, who is the goddess of necessary warfare along with knowledge. She doesn't like how the Morrigan uses her wits to cause and fuel wars for as bloody a reason as her brother Ares. Probably why her and Ares get along, though not whenever he's acting like a Dirty Coward.
  • On other war gods, she was attracted to Khorne for being the embodiment of rage, war and bloodshed. He was at first put off by her lustful nature given his contempt for Slaanesh, however the Morrigan, violent as she may be, does have a code, and Khorne does have standards of his own so the lustfulness isn't something he's concerned by. Bandos was too contemptible to even fit into the Friendly Rivalry category, but enough dedicated to the art of war and fighting he managed to be a rival and not straight-up enemy of The Morrigan.
  • While Asura appears neutral on her, The Morrigan does respect him for his fighting prowess, iron will and determination. By contrast, she hates YHVH for His obsession with suppressing and eliminating all other pantheons to assert supremacy and His desire to be the only god. The Morrigan doesn't like rapists either, though pretty much any who'd try to rape her is a Darwin Award winner.
  • As mentioned, she's a fertility goddess. She's the kind of deity who Really Gets Around, having no trouble trading sex for things like glory and prosperity. However she represents a more traditional type of fertility in plants. The phrase "Garden of Morrigan" refers to how battlegrounds tend to be overgrown with plant life due to the fertilizer of human remains and blood left behind. As such, she has a fondness for the House of Plants, and a contempt towards Hexxus due to being a dire threat to greenery.
  • Holds a role in the House of Prophecy because of her important role of foretelling doom. However she's far more seen in the House of War, where she often takes the form of a crow. She seems to be fond of Yousoke Otoha due to his heavy association with crows, along with the actual corvids of the Murkrow flock. Otoha would rather not attract her attention, what with the Morrigan being a dreaded Blood Knight goddess and all.

The Dark Star, God of Audible Darkness

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Click here  for Dark Bowser
  • Votes: 2(fasoman1996, kingvideogames)
  • Adopted from: ZeroL
  • House: Darkness And Shadow (House of Nature)
  • Rank: Intermediate God; Overdeity while Dark Bowser (or the dark version of any other villain stupid enough to seek its power)
  • Symbol: Itself
  • Theme Song: This, along with The Grand Finale and Swirling Shadows
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Sound of Darkness, Eldritch Abomination, Would Destroy Everything Just Because, Made of Evil, Knight of Cerebus, No-one Knows What It Is, Flunky Boss, Casting a Shadow, Shielded Core Boss, Not To Be Messed With, Dark Is Evil
  • Domains: Evil, Destruction, Stars, Darkness
  • Allies: Outside of Dhakron, none
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: The Grand United Alliance of Destruction
  • Rivals: SCP-1548, Hajun, Chernabog, the Light of Destruction
  • Potential Unwitting Pawns: Black Mage, Dimentio, Ganondorf, Metal Sonic, Eggman, Zs'skayr
  • Enemies: Everyone and everything. On top of that list, are Super Mario Bros. deities (especially Bowser), The Life Entity, Ezalor and the House of Light and Brightness as a whole, The SCP Foundation, Linkara, Galeem, Necrozma
  • Gambit Pileup with: Fawful, Light Yagami, Izaya Orihara, Master Xehanort
  • The Dark Star arrived in the form of Dark Bowser, spewing dark smog that enveloped all around it and causing a massive gale of dark wind to blow away all who opposed it. Bowser, recognizing the attack, confronted and defeated it, and a team of heroes with power over microscopic scales destroyed all traces of Bowser's DNA.
  • It actively seeks to find new villains greedy for its power, in order to copy their DNA. It has tried to get back Bowser's DNA, but some Enemy Mines have allowed some powerful heroes to shut off the Dark Star's access. Fawful, aware of the Dark Star's agenda, is still attempting to absorb its power, but is aware that it could use him to become effectively invincible with the Dark Star Core.
  • Since it seeks to envelop the universe in darkness, it is theorized that it is the only thing capable of permanently destroying or at least usurping Nekron, the darkness from before, if it becomes all darkness. Of course, there would be no point after this, making it impossible for good guys to exploit, but the threat is enough for Nekron to strong-arm it into keep a long distance from the GUAD's base of operations, only used as muscle to bring about the end of everything. Something the Dark Star only accepted because it can't destroy everything on its own...at least not yet.
  • Has almost no interest in allies, only pawns. It is similar to Hajun in being too omnicidal to have any allies whatsoever, though it does recognize the mad Hadou God as noteworthy competition. It has more of a rivalry with SCP-1548, mainly because they're both hateful stars. The SCP Foundation are trying to contain it to ensure nobody can use it.
  • Many wish to exploit the Dark Star, cocky enough that they can control it. Which goes into the second reason it has no allies; Evil Is Not a Toy, pure and simple. On the flip side, the Dark Star is genuinely interested in those who have dark sides such as Jin Kazama and his Devil Gene. It's an interest solely out of wanting to exploit that dark side and power, but at least it's something beyond the pure disdain it feels towards all of existence.
    • Black Mage wants it. It also wants him, and it's only the card carrying enemies who have prevented the two from creating an all-powerful being of pure evil and destruction.
    • Ganondorf is confident he could control the Dark Star, but it could turn him into Ganon and take the DNA from the beast, becoming even stronger than it was as Dark Bowser.
    • It thinks Tarquin's philosophy is amusing, and aims to take advantage of it by the first stage of its plan to be copying and devouring him before he can finish his stage one by manipulating it.
    • Eggman's success with the Time Eater has made him confident he stands a chance with the Dark Star, but... well, come on. It would chew him up and spit out a duplicate in no time flat. Metal Sonic would rather adapt its duplication abilities into itself, which can not end well if put into motion.
    • Dimentio would love to use it to obliterate everything, regarding it However, his delusion that its power would let him create a new world is just that: a delusion.
  • Light Yagami, much too intelligent to be used in the Dark Star's usual fashion, intends to use the Death Note to force someone else to "claim" it, then convert it to a form Light can use. However, Master Xehanort has his own designs upon its darkness, and the two are fighting a covert war over the Dark Star's possession. Izaya plays games with it, trying to understand how to manipulate and/or Troll it. So far, he has had no success in doing anything but almost getting copied.
  • Chernabog was smart enough to know that, as much as he likes the idea of a world of darkness, the Dark Star would try to hijack him. As such, he has settled on being the thing's rival. Assuming such emotions exist within the Dark Star, he might respect Chernabog for being and embodying absolute darkness. Zs'skayr was more foolish, thinking he could utilize the Dark Star to bring about a dark world where light is no longer a weakness for him and his world domination.
  • Aku isn't impressed by the Dark Star because he feels it lacks creativity for something Made of Evil. Why be an Omnicidal Maniac when you can dominate the world and cause tons of suffering that way, if you want to be really evil? Linkara opposes it for the obvious reasons and was quick to snark at it for ultimately being a boring villain since it just wants to destroy everything because it's literally evil and pointing out it'll have nothing to do if it succeeds. The Dark Star just ignored this and goes on its evil ways; it is not the Entity.
  • Fears the Life Entity, as the White Light has some kind of detrimental effect on its darkness and Dark Satelmites. Kyle Rayner outright terrifies it, as in its weaker form he could wipe it out in one attack. It loathes the House of Light and Brightness, particuarly Ezalor for being an Overdeity who embodies benevolent light.
  • Despite his hatred of light, the Dark Star holds a begrudging respect for the the Light of Destruction, as like the Dark Star it's an Eldritch Abomination bent on the destruction of the universe. The Dark Star is also keenly aware of the irony of a being of blinding light like Necrozma having a history of leaving worlds in darkness. An alliance of convenience was considered, but Necrozma has moved away from that. Plus even then Necrozma had reasons for leaving worlds in darkness, while the Dark Star has no reason whatsoever beyond it being part of its nature.
  • Initially didn't think of any allies at all due to the desire to destroy everything and shroud existence in darkness. And similar enough beings knew the Dark Star would try to usurp it. That was, until Dharkon. As a dark, chaotic Eldritch Abomination who sought the end of everything, it was the closest anyone came to being alike the Dark Star. And unfortunately Dharkon agreed they had so much in common not becoming proper allies would be a wasted opportunity. Despite being as cataclysmic as Dharkon, the Dark Star shares its hatred for Galeem for being so closely associated with light. The Light of Destruction was at least of the same alignment, but the Dark Star finds Galeem's Order Is Not Good nature unworkable.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#156745: Feb 26th 2020 at 4:52:14 PM

Hey guys, reminder that i plan to work on my ideas for Mitch Conner, Aya's Mom and Bob.

Reiterating the last one just in case. I want to give Bob Gameplay Automation given that he is the face of his Auto-Battler game and the other games, or even other examples of the trope don't really have a good candidate imo

Uni cat
Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#156746: Feb 26th 2020 at 5:18:10 PM

[up][up][tup]Dark Star

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#156747: Feb 26th 2020 at 5:20:14 PM

[up][up][up] [tup] Dark Star

@Whirl

Yuugi Hoshiguma is also an Oni Zero Two could interact with.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#156748: Feb 26th 2020 at 6:28:43 PM

[tup] for the Dark Star.

@nightelf: Perhaps stagger these posts to every 3 or 4 pages so they don't annoy anyone. No comment on this matter thus far.

Retired effective March 1, 2022
Camilla What do you mean I'm not declared insane? Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Californicating
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
#156749: Feb 26th 2020 at 6:31:06 PM

Guys? Can I get an opinion on this?

Guy-Am-I and Sam-I-Am, Dual Gods of Learning To Like Things Once Disliked (Briefcase Buddies (both of them), Sam-I-Am: Furry Foot Bandit, Flim-Flam-I-Am, Sham-Shamford, Dr. Linda Schwartz)
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  • Potential House: Narrative
  • Demigods
  • Theme song: "Backflip" by Rivers Cuomo
  • Symbol: Their hats topping a plate of Green Eggs and Ham
  • Alignment: Neutral Good (Guy, originally True Neutral) and Chaotic Good (Sam, originally Chaotic Neutral)
  • Portfolio:
  • Superior: Dr. Seuss
  • Herald: Michellee (A bean-counternote  with a crush on Guy) and EB (short for "Elanabeth", Michellee's daughter)
  • Allies:
  • Enemies
  • Conflicting Opinion from: The House of Justice, Crime and Beasts (Sam only)
  • Conficting Opinion on: Mr. Fox (Sam only)
  • Pitied by: The good-aligned gods in the House of Family
  • Fears: The Goat (Sam only)
  • This is the tale of Guy and Sam, and how they became gods thanks to Green Eggs and Ham.
  • In the whimsical tales of Dr. Seuss, there is a duo named Guy and Sam. One is a grump who hates Green Eggs and Ham, the other is constantly pestering the other to try Green Eggs and Ham everywhere whether it's with a mouse, with a fox, in a box, on a train, in the dark, here, there or anywhere. After some prodding, Guy finally relented...and exclaimed that he truly did love Green Eggs and Ham after all. End of story...or is it?
    • The two who ascended here comes from an animated adaptation of the story that expands on their pasts more. In this one, Guy is a struggling inventor while Sam is part of an animal protection agency, but the two got involved after Guy accidentally took Sam's briefcase that held a smuggled Chickeraffe and Sam had to drag him to Meepville mostly because Guy's watching paint dry job and the Chickeraffe's home were coincidentally there. Through this adventure, the two would become closer and end up as friends all thanks to Guy's disgust of green eggs and ham.
  • The two were heading off on an adventure to East Flurbia in an attempt to find Sam's Missing Mom when Guy decided to invent a rocket that would let them fly faster. Unfortunately, the rocket instead launched them into the gates of the Pantheon...and then exploded. With nowhere else to go, the two headed off to the House of Food to order a plate of green eggs and ham...where their author, Dr. Seuss, was also having his own plate of this. Dr. Seuss was proud that their adaptation was a success and decided that they needed a temple in the Pantheon to rest up, so he quickly had one built in the House of Narrative.
    • Once there, Guy and Sam were met up with the other Dr. Seuss deities: The Grinch, Horton, the Lorax and the Yooks and Zooks. Pinkie Pie was there with a Dr. Seuss-themed party while Sam whipped up green eggs and ham for everyone.
    • Not long after, a slow moving car finally made its way to the Pantheon gates. Guy and Sam went to check it out and were both happy and worried to find Michellee and EB there. Michellee went on a rampage for Guy's reckless move before hugging him and being glad he's all right. EB herself was excited to see all of the cool animals in the Pantheon and was rushing to go see them...until Michelee activated her friendship bracelet to drag EB back to her side, stating that they were going to explore the Pantheon together. Guy and Sam were at least glad to have someone they knew up here and mother and daughter would essentially become their heralds.
    • The House of Family have noted that both Guy and Sam have different dynamics to family. Guy doesn't like his family much — not because they're abusive, no, they're the exact opposite — because he feels like his failures of being an inventor make him inferior to how successful they have been. Sam likes to talk about his mother was truly loving when in truth, she just abandoned him one day at an orphanage without explaining. Thankfully Guy has been able to understand that his family really does care for his success while Sam is hoping to be able to meet up with his mother once they meet up again in East Flurbia.
    • Despite Guy's romance with Michellee, there's many gods who see Guy and Sam's relationship in a different light. Guy just rolls his eyes at all of this nonsense while Sam is happy that people see them being very close.
    • What makes them different from most other Dr. Seuss gods is that their adaptation was believed to be doomed to failure from the start. However, once the gods got to see that it wasn't like it appears to be, Guy and Sam obtained lots of popularity from it. And then, they met up with with the god who was the current holder of the trope, (BROKEN) Matt Hardy and both Guy and Sam have conflicting opinions. Guy thinks he's an utter nutcase, while Sam decided to share a plate of green eggs and ham to go with Matt's green beans and had Guy build something as thanks. Guy decided to build another drone to Matt's fellow companion Vanguard-1...but a test flight caused it to explode, sending Vanguard-1 tumbling to the ground out of commission (thankfully Matt was able to ask the Seven Deities to recharge Vanguard-1). After this, Matt declared war on the two and is preparing the battlefield. for. massacre. The two wisely decided it was best to flee before Matt and Vanguard-1 appeared armed with Roman candle assault rifles.
  • Exclusive to Guy:
    • Guy's still trying to work out the kinks of his inventions but every single one of them explodes after a time. Many gods in the Explosives sub-house suggest just turning them into bombs (since they're meant to go off anyway), but Guy's not the violent type. Still, he's not one to give up, and will do whatever he can until he gets at least one invention to stop blowing up in his face.
      • He found out he wasn't the only Bungling Inventor in the Pantheon and encountered the current holder of the trope, Flynn Lockwood and the tale of his famous FLDSMDFR. While Guy is glad that Flynn was able to work out the kinks of his invention, he prays that Sam never finds out about it else have the entire Pantheon raining with green eggs and ham.
    • Was impressed to find various children gods with their own treehouses, since he built an elaborate one by himself as a kid, but the one that interested him the most was from Sector V of the Kids Next Door. He's willing to improve their security system — seeing as their treehouse has a tendency to getting destroyed — and even invent some new weapons for them to test out. The KND are a bit wary, since they don't trust adults at all, but they do admit that the types of inventions and technology of his world would fit theirs so they accepted.
      • Another treehouse belonged to that of the Cutie Mark Crusaders. Guy was amused to find that it was built by Applebloom all by herself, and it is the headquarters of the Crusaders in helping others find their purpose. He admits that the Crusaders remind him of EB and hopes to help improve their treehouse (seeing as it's found within the frosty House of Prophecy)
    • Many gods are wondering about the lives of Guy's family: his father is a breadwinnernote , his mom is a homemaker, he has brothers who are movers and shakers and his grandpa moved mountains. Many gods have come asked Guy to learn more and more about their lives, but Guy basically shuts them up and states that if they want to know more about them then actually go to them and stop harassing him.
    • Guy spends a lot of time traveling and staying in hotels. Not only is it because he's trying to sell his inventions, but it was mostly due to the fact that he felt inferior to his successful family and wanted to avoid them because he felt that their sympathy was condescending. Thankfully he doesn't have to worry about spending up lodger points so quickly and actually wants to see what the Pantheon has to offer.
    • A lot of goddesses are questioning Guy's offhanded remark on being a feminist. On one hand, he does respect Michellee and EB but he also did go along with Sam's plan to befriend EB to get closer to Michellee (With both EB and Guy stating that it was "messed up"). Guy, for his part, truly does hope to get closer to Michelee and will take it a day at a time.
  • Exclusive to Sam:
    • Sam can be found in the House of Food eating plate after plate of green eggs and ham. When asked why he does he usually just says it's his favorite. The real reason is that it's something his mom made for breakfast before she dropped him off at an orphanage and that he's trying to find the ones that taste just like hers so he knows what happened to her.
      • Thanks to Michellee, Sam is willing to cook a tofu-based version of the dish on the side.
    • Sam is known to be quite clingy and insensitive even though he doesn't mean to. Many gods state that he and Pinkie Pie would be perfect for one another. Sam decided to meet up with the peppy party ponie and they got along quite well. Pinkie directed Sam to her group of friends from Equestria and to her fellow Avatars of Friendship (Gentaro, Elena, KO and Steven). But when Sam noticed the album that had the Avatars, he noticed that there was a wrestling prior to KO's arrival. Pinknie explained that Bayley has left the group and turned cynical and won't be coming back for some time. Sam reassured her that Bayley would return, and in the meantime, he'll try to get her back with some green eggs and ham. Unfortuantely, Bayley found it irritating that he was even associated with her former friends and slammed him with a Bayley-to-Belly Suplex. She would've done more to him if Guy didn't intervene with a hugging robot to keep her in place (which exploded, like all inventions do). Bayley has hated the two ever since.
    • The House of Justice is really unsure about Sam. On one hand he is a con-artist/animal smuggler, on the other hand he did turn a new leaf and returned Mr. Jenkins to his home. For the time being, Sam is on probation and banned from the House of Beasts and Nature and Guy is making him take multiple Zoology courses in the Elysium University.
      • The House of Crime also is unsure what to think of him because, again, of his criminal past due to his friendly personality being genuine and that he's not as malicious as they are. When asked why he became a con-artist in the first place all Sam can say is, "It's nice to be wanted, right?"
      • That being said, Sam is disgusted with Hunter J and her tendency to capture Pokémon and turned them into bronze statues for a quick buck. Many gods would like to remind Sam that he was willing to sell Mr. Jenkins to Snerz to add to the CEO's exotic animal collection and have him chained up. Sam sheepishly agrees that yeah, he deserved that.
      • A hunter that Sam is unsure of is Mr. Fox since the major difference between them is that Mr. Fox hunts food and drink for him and his family to survive while Sam cons and smuggles animals mostly for money or the idea that being "wanted" will get his mother's attention. Another reason why they don't get along is because Mr. Fox reminds Sam of the other Fox he met on his journey — Michael the Fox — who was going through a green egg withdrawal due to trying to woo the heart of a hen he loves.
      • And speaking of thieving foxes, there was also Swiper the Fox who swooped in to steal Sam's picnic basket filled with green eggs and ham one day. Luckily Guy tricked him with an identical picnic basket that exploded with cream pies when opened.
    • The House of Friendship has felt pity on Sam since he constantly keeps changing personalities because no one ever stays long enough to be with the real him, hence his multiple aliases. Thankfully, aside from the Avatars of Friendship, Sam has found new friends that truly want to be with him.
    • Sam is known to have many similarities with Wander, being that he's a friendly hat-wearing guy who travels around the world trying to befriend others. That's the only similarities though. Wander disapproved of Sam's goal to initially send Mr. Jenkins to Snerz but forgave him after Sam pulled a Heel–Face Turn and sent Mr. Jenkins on a cold air balloon back home.
      • Due to this friendship, Sam is now on the hit-list of Lord Hater and Commander Peepers and especially Lord Dominator. Wander has warned Sam that Lord Dominator's a bad guynote  and that she won't accept friendship that easily.
    • If there is one thing that can ever make Sam's smile drop is mentioning of his mother or that he doesn't even "fit" her. Guy learned this the hard way and will defend him should anyone ever make that insult.
    • To any god who is vegan, he will hold their hand and reply with this:
    Sam: Oh, I'm so sorry. How long have you known?
    • Sam screamed in terror when he heard about The Goat in the Pantheon, thinking it was the same animal smuggler that terrorized him and Guy on their adventure. Turns out, it wasn't, but he's still not going anywhere near said Goat for the time being.
    • Sam was confused when he learned of Jean Valijean's crimes because it reminded him of a mouse he met in jail and his particular crime (or perhaps it's the other way around and it was the mouse's crimes that reminded Sam of Valijean?)

Edited by Camilla on Feb 26th 2020 at 7:16:46 AM

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#156750: Feb 26th 2020 at 6:41:56 PM

[up] Animal-smuggler? Well the House of Beast is definitely going to be a bit distrusting of Sam. In fact, try finding a few poachers to see what could Sam think of them like Hunter J or Mr. Fox

Update on Miguel, i'm mostly looking for enemies

Miguel Rivera, God of Denouncing Family Traditions

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  • Potential House: Family Dynamics and Values and Ethics
  • Quasideity
  • Symbol: His great-great grandfather's guitar
  • Theme Song: Un Poco Loco and Proud Corazón
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Adorkable, Learned to play the guitar by watching old videos, Beauty Mark, Book Dumb, Calls out his family for preventing him for pursuing music, Child Prodigy, Kid Hero, Gadgeteer Genius, The Hero, Identical Grandson, Kid Hero, The odd one out of his family, The Runaway, Shared Family Quirks, A Tragedy of Impulsiveness
  • Domains: Music, Family, The Dead, Tradition, Dreams, Adventure
  • Herald: Dante (his dog)
  • Allies: Héctor, Manolo Sanchez, Maria Posada and Joaquin Mondragon Jr., La Muerte and Xibalba, Zorro, Speedy Gonzales, Amigo, Steven Universe, Greg Universe, Yusuke Kitagawa
  • Enemies: Chakal, [[Pantheon/
  • Born in the Rivera family, famous for being shoemakers, Miguel grew up with dreams of being a musician but unfortunately due to a rather complicated past the Riveras have with music, he was forbidden to even listed or talk about music as his great-great grandmother Imelda had banned music and his grandmother Elena would keep that rule going. Miguel also began idolizing Ernesto de la Cruz and after having a fight with his family, he ran away thinking Ernesto was his missing great-great grandfather and went to his burial place on Dia de los Muertos, where Miguel would find out you don't steal from the dead without consequences and he was transported to the Land of the Dead where he met his deceased family members and witness first hand how the afterlife works. Considering the history of how he always defied the traditions of his family and that ultimately was the main cause of how he later was able to convince his family to warm up to music again and reuniting the whole family in the process, Miguel was handpicked by the Court of Gods to represent a particular title after a familiar face recommended him for it.
  • He was caught off guard by his ascension, thinking he accidentally fallen into the Land of the Dead again and he didn't know how. The fact that he reunited with Héctor was pretty bittersweet since he was really happy to see him again but have no clue how he came to the pantheon and Héctor later explained that the Pantheon wasn't the afterlife but another place entirely, so Miguel was in no danger of becoming a skeleton here and that seemed to relieve Miguel and he became excited to learn more about this place.
  • He tries to stay away from the House of Life And Death because he doesn't want to repeat getting stuck in the afterlife and certainly doesn't want to mingle with skeletons again. That said, Miguel was visited by a few of Hector's friends, namely Maria, Manolo and Joaquin, a trio who also went to a similar adventure as Miguel and even if they respect him for managing to unite his family, they also scolded him for being too rebellious and that he should listen to the people that care for his safety. Of the three he relates the most to Manolo, who also has dreams of becoming a musician and had that dream denied by his family too, so he encourages the young Miguel to keep playing music.
    • The trio also introduced Miguel to both La Muerte and Xibalba, who oversee the Land of the Dead in their universe and were mildly impressed that such a young boy managed to escape the afterlife and even save Hector from his final death. That said, they too scolded Miguel but only because he stole from the dead (even if he ultimately stole from Ernesto de la Cruz, that was morally wrong anyway).
  • Miguel can often find himself performing in the House of Music, rehearsing some new songs after the newfound fame after he managed to uncover Ernesto's dirty laundry and given Héctor his well-deserved recognition. He also found himself becoming friends with Steven Universe for their shared love for music but also for being the one person in their family/group to unite the others for a common cause. Miguel often joins Steven and his father Greg to perform some songs in their spare time and Miguel has grown curious about Greg's former life as a rockstar.
  • A huge fan of classical hero films as he used to watch a lot of the films Ernesto de la Cruz in secret, although it became a bit of an Old Shame in hindsight. However, he came to respect Don Diego de la Vega for his crusade against the evil spaniards and while he was a bit surprised to learn he was a talking animal, Miguel is a huge fan of Speedy Gonzales which surprised almost nobody.
  • Yusuke Kitagawa from the Phantom Thieves related a lot to Miguel's story, mostly the part where they were dissapointed and deceived by someone they idolized. While Miguel has seemingly gotten over the whole ordeal and is at peace knowing his great-grandfather got the recognition he deserved, it seems Yusuke hasn't quite gotten over his master stealing his art.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:44:40 AM

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