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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#179376: Apr 12th 2021 at 8:46:12 PM

[up][up] For benevolent death entities, there's Death of the Endless and Discworld!Death. For conquerors, there's Shan-Yu.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Apr 12th 2021 at 9:00:46 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#179377: Apr 12th 2021 at 9:47:28 PM

First draft of these Mega Man adoptables. Finding spring-related deities is...difficult. Who else utilizes springs, or has been through an incident where they'd rage at Spring Man's level.

I tried removing the background in Spring Man but couldn't find the result when uploading the image here in case you're wondering, so if someone would be kind to replace it here

Spring Man, God of Springboard-Filled Levels (DWN-053, Out-Of-Ideas Man)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/53_-_spring_man_7497.jpg

Sniper Joes, Deified Shield-Bearing Mooks

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cw_sniperjoe_art_removebg_preview.png
Your average Snipe Joe model
  • House: Minions and Sidekicks (House of Loyalty and Servitude)
  • Adopted from: TPPR 10
  • Demigods on average
  • Symbol: Their Sniper Shield
  • Alignment: Neutral Evil
  • Portfolio: Mecha-Mooks Who Carry Shields, One Of The Tougher Enemies, Cyber Cyclops, Arm Cannon, Multiple Different Varieties, Based on Proto Man's Design
  • Domains: Enemies: Shields, Eyes, Vehicles
  • Superior: Doctor Wily
  • Allies: Robot Masters loyal to Wily, The Yellow Devil, The original T-800
  • Enemies: Mega Man and his allies (especially their model, Proto Man), E-123 Omega, Conrad S Hauser, Snake Eyes, the Nazi Storm Elite
  • Disrespected by: Metal Sonic
  • Sniper Joes are humanoid robots based upon Proto Man's design, created for the purpose of amassable robots. When Doctor Wily started his quest for world conquest, he repurposed them to be the backbone of his army. They have many different forms, but almost always tend to utilize a shield to defend themselves. They serve as one of the most common Mecha-Mooks of the doctor.
  • Their mass production makes them an easy tool for the Grand United Alliance of Evil and Grand United Alliance of Machines, to which Dr Wily has made a lot of cash in selling them to both sides. Though the Sentinels hold the official positon of Mecha-Mooks, the GUAE finds Sniper Joes more reliable as they are far less likely to turn on the user, even if they are weaker as a whole. Wily is pleased that people choose his models over them.
  • Unlike the Robot Masters their A.I is simple and they serve as mere soldiers, which make them ideal Cannon Fodder for the GUAM. SKYNET regards them as inferior to even the T-600 Terminator model, however unlike other models they have no way to rebel. As such, the malevolent A.I has decided to make them support units to the T-800 loyal to him.
  • Dr Wily decided to test them out against the Nazi Storm Elite, putting their Heavily Armored Mook position to the test. This pissed them off something fierce, and when the GUAE asked why Dr Wily was using them as test subjects he responded "who cares, they're Nazis!" and said the GUAE shouldn't be concerned anyway since they have reserves.
  • Cobra Commander was very amused at the fact that they named Joes, and decided to purchase some Sniper Joes in order to achieve his ambitions. Neither Conrad S Hauser or Snake Eyes were the least bit pleased with this development. They weren't happy to learn that the CIS had purchased a number of Sniper Joes for that matter, believing they might be more effective than their standard model.
  • Proto Man hates the Sniper Joes because they're unlicensed and inferior knock-offs of him, and he's the Robot Master with the strongest sense of individuality. It's not known if them being knock-offs means Proto Man is also a Cyber Cyclops, however, since he's never seen without his Cool Shades. Gigan, being the former holder of the Cyber Cyclops, actually agrees with Proto Man on their inferiority. However this is only his dismissal of them being drones, not him caring about Proto Man's issues.
  • E-123 Omega sympathizes with Proto Man's anger at the Sniper Joes, as he considers them inferior consumer models. While a villain, Metal Sonic seems to understand Proto Man's frustration. It's all down to his complex over being a robot copy of Sonic and denial about this. However because of Eggman and Wily's Friendly Rivalry, he has little opportunity to vent his frustration at the Sniper Joes.

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Apr 13th 2021 at 2:49:26 AM

CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
The Black Blade
#179378: Apr 13th 2021 at 5:37:20 AM

I didn't get a proper consensus on what do do with Kasumi and whether it would be Cherry Blossoms or combining with Ryu Hayabusa for Ninja? At the moment, I have one point in favor of the latter, who also stated that Ayane can be thrown in for good measure, while I also mentioned Hayate as a potential fourth character to get joined along as well.

In case the Ninja reasoning wasn't stated, it's to do with the fact that the main Protagonists of the Dead or Alive series are ninjas who normally are a family with one another until circumstances involving a gourmet of the same name drives in complications. And there's some personal issues that drive the four of them in their goals and events do compromise their occupations as ninjas. Oh, and Ryu is one of the most well-regarded examples of a Ninja regarding video games, whose own adventures have him use all sorts of ninja-associated techniques, quirks and weapons to help him along the way.

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"
Redthatcat Going Crazy over one game, all the time from Nowhere and everywhere Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Going Crazy over one game, all the time
#179379: Apr 13th 2021 at 6:16:15 AM

@Numemon and Sukamon Isaac has dealt with many poop based monsters

@Spring Man there was that one-time Mairo got a spring power up... I'm just throwing ideas out at this point...

Edited by Redthatcat on Apr 13th 2021 at 8:19:54 AM

Has bad enlish. Also DID. Current Fronter: Adzumi
DoodSlayer136 Woagh from Pizza Tower (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Woagh
#179380: Apr 13th 2021 at 6:31:39 AM

Here's the first draft of Maxwell, the former ruler of The Constant. Any former dark rulers or villains? How about magicians, relating to his old job?

Maxwell, God of Stage Names (William Carter, Maxwell the Great, "Waxwell")

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/maxwell_4.png
  • Demigod (Lesser God with the Codex Umbra, Intermediate God as the ruler of The Constant)
  • Symbol: The Codex Umbra
  • Alignment: True Neutral, was once Neutral Evil
  • Portifolio:
  • Domains: Darkness, Chess, Magicians, Names, "Dapperness"
  • Allies: TBA
  • Enemies: TBA
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork With: Wilson, Chester
  • There was once a man named William Carter, a struggling stage magician who was desperate to escape the drought he was in, alongside his assistant Charlie. That all changed when the two came across the Codex Umbra, a book capable of powerful dark magic. Deciding to use it for his performances, he renamed himself "Maxwell" and exploited its power for all that it was worth, vastly improving his shows in the process. Eventually, however, the book ended up sucking both William and Charlie into The Constant, where the two ended up changing for the worst: Charlie became the dreaded Night Monster, while William became the apparent ruler of the realm, going by his stage name in the process. While he was fully aware that he's an Unwitting Pawn to THEM, he still tries to enjoy his power while he has it, and for a while became a smug Jerkass after the fact.
    • However, after manipulating survivor Wilson into taking his place on the Nightmare Throne, he ended up a free man, still stuck in The Constant but still armed with his vast knowledge of the place and his Codex Umbra, using it to create Shadow Clones of himself to do his bidding. After a short while, Wilson himself joined him, having been removed by the Throne by Charlie, and the two decided to unite any survivors they came across to make survival easier, even if they can barley stand each other in the meantime. Ultimately, Maxwells goal is to free Charlie from her curse, as he genuinely feels terrible for his actions getting her into this mess.
  • Maxwell ended up in The Pantheon thanks to Wilson, who had teamed up with a bunch of the realm's scientists to create a gateway to The Constant as to bring another survivor out of it. The thing could only work once, however, before breaking down and requiring repairing, so Wilson had to choose carefully who to ascend. After some reluctance, he decided on his frenemy Maxwell, admitting that his forbidden knowledge could be of massive help, and ended up pulling him into The Pantheon, much to Maxwell's confusion. Unfortunately, he too is victim of the same curse that be-felled Wilson (The Night is deadly, shadow creatures are a thing, wolf ambushes, ETC), but unlike Wilson, Maxwell actually considers this a (Mostly) good thing, as this gives him more material to work with bringing Charlie back to normal, something that Wilson admitted was a good point. In the meantime, he got himself the title of Stage Names thanks to his origins.

NOISE IS CALLING, PICK UP PHONE
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#179381: Apr 13th 2021 at 6:53:41 AM

Is it ok to change the trope for the First Family to The Fantastic Faux since they are base on the Fantastic Four with some having similar power sets

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#179382: Apr 13th 2021 at 7:01:06 AM

Feedback Mode

What else should I add to their profiles?

Okay, who's ne—

*gets decked in the face*

"Wassap, motherfucker!"

Detective Isaac Washington Jr., God of Excessive Swearing

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  • Due to his encounter with a literal example in Clement Darling, he will not say the word "motherfucker" to anyone who actually screwed their mother. Other swear words are still fair game, though.

Oolong, Patron Saint of Fighting Games (Lee)

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CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
The Black Blade
#179383: Apr 13th 2021 at 7:12:22 AM

[up][up] I'm alright with the trope getting changed, though, at the same time, I'll be abstaining to see what others think in general. If nothing comes of it, wait for at least a month before bringing it up again.

[up] Add more detail and context in the existing paragraphs you've made and I'll give you a [tup].

Don't want to pad this out to the next page/post, but any thoughts and ideas for my previous post. I honestly couldn't care if I get disapproved so long as there's a conclusion.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Apr 13th 2021 at 3:25:40 PM

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"
AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018
#179384: Apr 13th 2021 at 7:26:41 AM

[up][tup] for all three being grouped for Ninja.

Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#179385: Apr 13th 2021 at 7:31:19 AM

Obligatory repost time. 1 day since receiving 4 [tup]s. Made some last minute text revisions and additions. Anything else needed?

Baker: "Paddock! Can you get me and Holden up there?"

Paddock: "I could get a piano up there!"

Sgt. Franklin Paddock, Patron Saint of Soldiers Hailing From The Countryside (Paddock, Kansas Boy, Mr. Deathwish)

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Paddock as part of the 101st Airborne's recon teams during Operation Market-Garden, September 1944
Paddock as part of the 502nd PIR during the Normandy landings in June 1944 
Paddock: "Hehehe...You should see the look on ya'll's faces!"
Doyle: "Did you forget the password?"
Paddock: "Naw, I remembered...Flash answered by thunder and all that. I could see plain as day it was Red from 3rd squad."
Doyle: "We could have shot you."
Paddock: "Well, damn good thing you didn't, right? Shit, I'd have been mighty ticked off."
Doyle: "We should keep moving."
  • From then on he would be working alongside Hartsock and occasionally Baker during their missions in Normandy. Among these would include ambushing a German artillery convoy in a French hamlet, relieving the 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment near Hell's Corners, and helping Hartsock and Corrion stall a German offensive outside of Carentan.
  • Following Hartsock's own promotion to Sergeant the day after the Battle of Bloody Gulch, Paddock was assigned as his squad's Assault Team Leader. It was in this position that he helped Hartsock and the rest of 2nd squad clear Carentan, fight their way into Baupte, and help clear St. Sauveur le Vicomte.
    • Paddock would continue leading Hartsock's assault team in this position well into Operation Market-Garden. At one point, he assists SSgt. Matthew Baker in clearing a German-occupied church. In the process, he ends up saving the Sergeant from a German sniper, by pushing the German out of a window. As it turns out, said sniper was responsible for the death of Lt. Col. Robert Cole, an officer that both Baker and Hartsock had been under command of during the Normandy battles.
Paddock:"Hey, I'll be sending the rest of your friends your way real soon!" *Pushes German to his death*
  • During the fight for control of Veghel, however, things would change, arguably for the worse. While Veghel was successfully captured and held by the 101st and XXX corps, a mortar shell ended up badly wounding Hartsock, killing "Friar" Winchell, and wounding several others including Baker.
  • This event would ultimately lead to Paddock being recommended for promotion by Baker. As a Sergeant, Paddock would take over command of 2nd squad and take orders from Baker, helping the Staff Sergeant take the Dutch town of Koevering. Here, he served as a Target Spotter for Allied artillery, and ended up accidentally causing more than a few friendly fire incidents...
    • It was also revealed following this promotion that Paddock also was able to correctly deduce who in 2nd squad was most likely to get killed in Holland, namely Marsh and Friar, who were indeed killed mere days after he predicted this and told it to the rest of his squad. It's also revealed that that he even regretted saying this, and genuinely felt like he had sent his own friends to their deaths because of it.
Paddock: "I was just tryin' to point out a hole in our unit. I didn't mean to sound so cruel..."
  • Paddock would be last seen alongside the rest of 2nd and 3rd squad during Baker's Rousing Speech at the end of their story. His whereabouts and fate following this are thus far unknown, no thanks to his and Baker's story being unfinished.
  • Having already been in the Pantheon for a while as one of Hartsock's and Baker's Heralds, Paddock, having already been promoted to Sergeant even before being dropped into the Pantheon, is given his own Temple by none other than Major Winters, having witnessed Paddock's skill and bravery in combat firsthand. Unlike the two Sergeants as well as Jasper and Connor, however, he has no Herald of his own, due to his previous subordinates having been killed in Holland, and having parted with them on very bad terms no thanks to his own words.
  • Like Pfc. Jasper and Pfc. Connor, however, Paddock, on occasion, still assists both Baker and Hartsock on their missions behind German lines. With his own Temple now, however, he also frequently accompanies other US and sometimes British soldiers on other missions, usually against various Nazi soldiers and officers.
    • He's one of the few American soldiers who actually approves of The Basterd's methods due to being a Blood Knight himself, though he still thinks that carving swastikas onto their heads is a bit too far.
    • He's also pretty close with B.J. Blaskowicz, no thanks to also being good at killing Nazis and being enthusiastic about it. The "Kansas Boy" frequently accompanies the Nazi Hunter on more than a few dangerous missions, just so he can get a piece of the action.
    • Surprisingly, he's been recommended by Lt. Mike Powell to be part of the attacking force on the planned raid on Fort Schmerzen, thanks in part to Paddock's surprisingly good deduction for where the Germans would likely place defenses.
    • Paddock has also been working closely with both Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes as an honorary Howling Commando. It helps that the Sergeant from Kansas was able to help them locate an apparently hidden HYDRA facility in a seemingly uninhabited forest.
    • Of all the ascended American paratroopers, Paddock is most often seen working alongside Cpl. Boyd Travers. And thanks to Paddock's past experience with destroying German artillery pieces, sometimes singlehandedly, Travers has asked the Sergeant to help him in the planned assault and destruction of Der Flakturm, alongside several other paratroopers including Hartosck and Baker.
    • The only Allied soldier who doesn't fully welcome his help is the OSS agent Lt. Karl Fairburne, given that most his missions are mostly of the stealthy kind and involve sniping. Someone loud and specializing in close quarter combat like Paddock could jeopardize his missions and end in either the capture or death of both of them.
    • While also a Blood Knight like Cpt. Spiers, even he considers the Easy Company commander to be a bit too terrifying, especially after hearing about quite a few terrifying rumors about the man.
  • During one mission while serving under Baker, he ends up saving the Staff Sergeant once again from a Waffen Senior Trooper, a sniper variant of the Waffen Infantry. And once again, he ends up shoving the German soldier to his death. In fact, every time he comes up against these German snipers, he now begins doing this on a regular basis.
  • During his first encounter with the Valkyrie Jager, an elite German paratrooper unit, he was astonished at their arsenal, which were so much more effective than the Grease Gun he was using. Despite this, however, he was still able to outwit them and survive, even capturing a few of their nice weapons and handing them over to other Allied soldiers for their use.
  • While accustomed to dealing with Waffen-SS and Falschirmjager units (having already fought both kinds of soldiers in Normandy and the Netherlands), even this couldn't prepare him against the far more competent and deadly Waffen Storm Leaders and Nazi Storm Elites. To Paddock, the Waffen Storm Leaders were essentially the Panzergrenadiers but on steroids, given that they have a similar arsenal as the former but are far more competent. The Nazis Storm Elites were a different story for him, however, as he was immediately startled at how durable each of them were, not to mention their Improbable Aiming Skills with a light machine gun. Had it not been for Cpl. Boyd Travers accompanying him during this particular encounter, Paddock most certainly would have been killed in action.
    • To say that Paddock was surprised when he later found out that there were worse, and far more powerful Nazis in the Pantheon, would be an understatement. And not just bulletproof Nazis like what he had just encountered, but also vampire Nazis, Nazis with mechs, etc.
  • Pvt. Robert Zussman gets along rather well with Paddock, thanks in huge part to the Sergeant reminding him of Cpl. Ronald Daniels, another Southern-Fried Private. Like Paddock, Daniels is known for being brash, insubordinate, but also a very competent frontline soldier.
  • Like Jasper, he gets along well with the 501st JFW, though for a while he genuinely thought the Karlslandians were affiliated with the Krauts, which initially led to a Mexican Standoff that was ultimately ended when the aformentioned Jasper vouched for them. Thankfully, his trust in the Military Mage unit is earned when the latter save himself and a few other of his fellow paratroopers from a Neuroi attack.
  • At one point, he almost ends up throwing a grenade into the Oarai Anglerfish Team's Panzer IV, before realizing that the Panzer IV he was attacking wasn't in German markings, much less knowing that the crew members weren't hostile German tankers. A similar incident happens with Maho Nishizumi and her Tiger I tank. While the outcome of his realization and subsequent apology isn't known, what is known is that Paddock must be kept away from them in order to avoid a repeat and any potential innocent casualties.
"Cease fire! Cease fire! They're dead!"

The Fight Continues!
VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#179386: Apr 13th 2021 at 7:35:45 AM

[up][tup]

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#179387: Apr 13th 2021 at 8:00:40 AM

Baker: "So here we are--brothers, fathers, saints, and sinners. Let's bring this fight back to the Germans!"

Paddock: "Well, shit, if you're gonna use all them pretty words."

Edited by Rmpdc on Apr 13th 2021 at 11:00:47 PM

The Fight Continues!
DoodSlayer136 Woagh from Pizza Tower (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Woagh
#179388: Apr 13th 2021 at 9:49:04 AM

Any suggestions for Maxwell? Kinda got brushed over earlier.

NOISE IS CALLING, PICK UP PHONE
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#179389: Apr 13th 2021 at 9:57:43 AM

@Crimson: That's kinda too generic. Are you talking about both? It's kinda difficult to find the bullet texts you consider content-deficient. For example, do I just retcon out the bit on Goldman and replace it wholesale with something regarding the Magician?

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CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
The Black Blade
#179390: Apr 13th 2021 at 10:15:55 AM

[up] Yes, I am talking about both profiles. Apologies for not being distinct enough, but I should assert that both of those profiles are still averaging on only 2-3 lines regarding the paragraphs and I was suggesting that more should just be added to them.

And what you say is generic means that I'm talking about most of the paragraphs you've listed. There's a clear distinction between being generic and assessing most of the work, even if I didn't clearly state it.

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"
r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#179391: Apr 13th 2021 at 12:07:52 PM

Two new profile ideas and a rework:

  • Bob Arctor (Hired to Hunt Yourself): Arctor lives in a world where Substance D, a drug that causes hallucinations, has swept the US, and he lives alongside two drug addicts. Arctor is an undercover agent cracking down on the rise of that drug who wears a "scrambler suit" to hide his identity while working as such and is known as "Fred". "Fred" is hired to investigate Arctor, resulting in a lot of trouble for him especially since he's getting more and more addicted to Substance D.
  • Unico (I Just Want to Have Friends): A cheery young unicorn with the power to bring happiness to anyone near him, Unico is banished by the Gods to a faraway place where no one will remember him. The West Wind, sympathetic towards Unico, takes him to various places where he meets different people (who are often alone and seeking friendship like Unico is), helps them, and becomes friends with them, with the part about friendship being something Unico is eager to do given his situation. Despite this, Unico is unable to forge permanent bonds with anyone he meets as a result of his memories being taken away after The West Wind makes him leave that place (and Unico's friends he made at that time will eventually forget about him), a cycle that goes on indefinitely apparently.
  • SA-X (Differently Dressed Duplicates): The result of an X Parasite taking over Samus' Power Suit, resulting in Samus having parts of her suit surgically removed and getting injected with Vaccine "Metroid", SA-X is a copy of Samus in her standard Varia Suit (along with blank eyes behind the visor) while Samus herself for the duration of Metroid Fusion wore a Fusion Suit that was the result of the vaccine she got altering her cellular makeup.

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#179392: Apr 13th 2021 at 12:10:51 PM

[up][tup] to the firs two, though I am unsure on the third so abstaining there.

EDIT: After some searching I change my abstaining to a [tup]

Edited by VengefulBale on Apr 13th 2021 at 3:49:14 AM

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#179393: Apr 13th 2021 at 12:12:38 PM

[up][up][tup] for the SA-X

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#179394: Apr 13th 2021 at 1:29:02 PM

So I got a newer proposal:

  • Hec and Ricky Baker, Co-Gods of the Wild Wilderness
    • Reasoning: The plot of the film involves a young boy named Ricky Baker being taken into the foster home of a man known as Hec and his wife, Bella. After Bella dies, Ricky runs away into the woods and tries (but fails miserably) to fake his death, forcing Hec to venture out to find him, the film's main setting has the two exploring the wilderness and bonding through the events while trying to escape the New Zealand authorities after misunderstandings lead to Hec being believed to have kidnapped Ricky. It also shows some of the less pleasant parts of nature alongside the beauty of the New Zealand forests and hills.

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#179395: Apr 13th 2021 at 1:39:23 PM

[up] [tup]

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#179396: Apr 13th 2021 at 3:26:45 PM

[up][up] [tup] Along with SA-X.

Here is Bad Girl's title and backstory again with currently one [tup] [down] I was just making sure I am working on the rest of the profile now.

Bad Girl, Goddess of Sporting Themed Levels.

Born Charlotte Birkin, she was a child who was raised by her father Badman into mastering baseball as he was a former major league player. Then, her life changed for the worse after being raised into being a murdering assassin losing a good amount of humanity as she rose up the ranks of the association. Finally, she confronted Travis in her own personal home in a private section of a baseball arena when she kills time by literally killing cloned gimps for sheer fun. Plus she uses a baseball bat as her signature weapon in combat.

Edited by Mizerous on Apr 13th 2021 at 7:52:21 AM

Mileena Madness
VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#179397: Apr 13th 2021 at 3:27:45 PM

[up] You only need one [tup] to get an idea approved. You only need to fish for more thumbs up (via stating your reasoning) if someone gives you a [tdown] to disapprove of your idea

Edited by VengefulBale on Apr 13th 2021 at 5:27:59 AM

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#179398: Apr 13th 2021 at 4:29:24 PM

@ Vengeful Bale: May I as why you chose Krookodile as your new profile image?

I think if we're going to change the trope of the First Family, we first need to ask the creator of the profile if they're cool with it

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Apr 13th 2021 at 9:30:23 PM

wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#179399: Apr 13th 2021 at 4:50:11 PM

I'm done with this.

Numemon and Sukamon, "Divine" Practitioners of Dung Fu (Numemon: Mollusk Digimon; Sukamon: Scumon, Mutant Digimon)

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Numemon
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Sukamon (the mouse is Chuumon)
  • Lesser Deities
  • Symbol: A pink pile of cartoon poop
  • Alignment: True Neutral to Chaotic Neutral
  • Portfolio: Throwing faeces at opponents, Toilet Humor, REALLY strange creatures, have several variations, Gonk, mainly fight in groups, disliked by other Digimon, result of raising a Digimon poorly, can potentially evolve into some legitimately impressive things, Com Mons
  • Domains: Poop, Mons
  • Allies: Most heroic Digimon deities, to varying extents (Hikari Yagami is the most serious about it), Magikarp
  • Enemies: Lucemon (though a few do side with him), Ramon, The Great Mighty Poo, Sekhmet
  • Pitied by: Culumon
  • Admire: Amaterasu
  • There's a particular chapter in the story of the Pantheon that most deities prefer not to talk about, not because it was oh-so-traumatically dark, but because of the sheer grossness and crassness involved. It started with an anonymous deity in a public restroom getting scared out of their wits when an unused stall suddenly exploded, with several large green slugs flooding every corner of the bathroom. After this incident, every public toilet in the Pantheon became inhabited by these slugs, as well as the occasional yellow pile of sentient poop with a pink mouse riding on it, and they pelted anybody who tried entering with pink poop. They also made threats to invade toilets in private residences. At that point, several Digimon deities stepped up and admitted, with much embarrassment, that those were Numemon and Sukamon, creatures from their world, and they would do whatever they could to drive them out. Eventually after a long battle that became known as the Great War for the Toilets, they succeeded in restricting them to the sewers. Then the Main House, having observed all these proceedings, announced they had decided to make the two Digimon species into the holders of Dung Fu and thus are technically allowed the whole range of the Pantheon, much to most everyone's dismay.
  • A place as far removed from conventional reality as the Digital World is bound to have its share of weird creatures; Numemon and Sukamon would be ranked highly on a hypothetical weirdness scale. Numemon and Sukamon usually appear as a result of making multiple mistakes in raising a Digimon. As to be expected from such unfortunate monsters, they are really, really weak, both offensively and mentally (although Sukamon's companion Chuumon compensates for the former's lack of intelligence with its cunning), with most of their attacks involving the pathetic and disgusting strategy of throwing poop at their opponents. They are consequently not very popular with either Digimon or humans.
  • Numemon are very social Digimon and tend to live in large groups, likely to make up for the fact that they're so weak on their own. Sukamon are more individualistic, though they will still live happily in the sewers alongside like-minded mons. Both have several different variants; subspecies of Numemon include ShellNumemon, BlackKingNumemon, GoldNumemon and PlatinumNumemon. Sukamon variants are PlatinumSukamon and KingSukamon. That last one is the "alpha" of the Numemon and Sukamon population in the Pantheon, but it never leaves its place deep in the sewers. Also, GoldNumemon, PlatinumNumemon and PlatinumSukamon enjoy some modicum of popularity due to being Metal Slimes; those who defeat them are awarded with a killing in money (the first one) and experience points (the last two). Just walking around with them and defeating other enemies has similar effects, so deities prefer doing that (if they can manage to convince them to do so, as Numemon and Sukamon in general are very capricious).
  • As pointed out, most Digimon have very little love for these guys, although the more heroic ones will certainly fight to protect them when needed, since it's not like they're evil, really. The DigiDestined have had their share of run-ins with certain specimens and generally wound up making friends with them after some initial hostility. Mimi Tachikawa is like a magnet for their crushes, much to her chagrin. She, of course, rejects them every time, though she considers a few of them to be good friends. Hikari Yagami might be the only one who doesn't show any revulsion for them, and sincerely worries for them if they're being harmed, as she would for any Digimon in the same situation.
  • The megalomaniacal Lucemon absolutely despises the Numemon and Sukamon for how unsightly and weak they are, believing there is no place for creatures like them in his perfect world. If he ever succeeds in his plans to rule the universe(s), he will certainly exterminate the Numemon and Sukamon. Most of them accordingly hate Lucemon back, although a few, who have particularly fatalistic personalities and are bitter about being treated as the lowest of the low among Digimon, actually side with Lucemon and believe it would be better for all of them to die for the chance at being reborn as better Digimon. Others point out that Lucemon is more likely to completely delete them as "punishment" for being what they are, but the Lucemon faction seems okay with that too.
  • That same faction also holds deep resentment for Culumon, the Light of Evolution, for allowing them to become such wretched creatures. The innocent Culumon doesn't realize this, as the other Digimon deities keep him away from the Numemon and Sukamon, though he does seem to feel very sorry for the two Digimon in general. On the other hand, Numemon and Sukamon pride is a thing as well and so most don't dwell very much on Culumon. Besides, they actually do have the possibility to evolve further and into some, unexpectedly impressive Digimon if they try. Some of the Sukamon are able to evolve into Etemon, a Musical Assassin monkey that looks goofy but is a threat to consider. Numemon can evolve into Monzaemon, a giant teddy bear which again looks goofy but is capable of seriously incapacitating its opponents. To say nothing of the possibilities beyond. This power disparity in evolution levels is something they share with Magikarp, a pathetic little fish that can evolve into a fearsome water dragon. Since Magikarp also has a tendency to be mocked and put down in its world, the Numemon and Sukamon consider it one of them and will chase down any who abuse a Magikarp.
  • The Hall of Beast Handlers has some thoughts on these guys, believing that those who are the result of poor care on their owners's part are pitiable. Then again, the vast majority of Numemon and Sukamon in the Pantheon seems to be wild, leading one to the conclusion that they were simply too lazy in a previous stage and thus brought their present state on themselves, in which case they are simply reprehensible, in the Hall of Beast Handlers' opinion. Numemon and Sukamon don't care too much for their opinion, although one particular resident of that Hall, Rusty, terrifies them with the downright deadly manner in which he "cares" for his mons.
  • Despite fears that the Numemon and Sukamon might rise again and take over the toilets once more, they seem quite happy sticking to the sewers for now. Those public restrooms were rather too brightly lit for their tastes. They sometimes cross paths with other sewer-dwellers, such as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, although the Turtles prefer to act like they don't exist and pass by them quickly. A big threat to them is Ramon, the Sewer Gator, who has taken to look at the Numemon as convenient nearby snacks (Sukamon, not so much). That doesn't mean the Numemon and Sukamon don't fight back against Ramon with all they have when he invades their territory, even though Ramon is relatively impervious to their normal attacks. On these occasions, the Ninja Turtles do deign to help the Digimon; the Turtles may not like them, but their sense of morality prevents them from letting relatively innocent mons from becoming gator chow.
  • Such is their obsession with poop that they were moved to tears upon seeing Poo Mountain, the lair of the Great Mighty Poo. The fact that Poo Mountain is not actually made of poop doesn't matter to them as it still looks like poop due to its swirly shape. Anyway, the Digimon were intially on pretty good terms with the Great Mighty Poo, not only for the obvious thing but because he had given them support during the Great War for the Toilets. However, things soured after the Great Mighty Poo was discovered to be plotting against KingSukamon in a bid to take control of the Numemon and Sukamon and use them in his revenge against Conker. It was a whole thing worthy of Game of Thrones, except involving much more excrement. After the Great Mighty Poo admitted his intentions and dared to insult KingSukamon, the Numemon and Sukamon have declared him their enemy. Most suppose it's a good thing that such a disgusting team-up was averted.
  • There are some reasons that Numemon and Sukamon stick to an underground and humid location such as the sewers. Beyond the obvious reasons, Numemon and Sukamon can't really stand light (although they can overcome this aversion with training, which, considering the species' typical attitude, most are not willing to do). This leads to some natural hostility towards light-related deities, which is well justified in the case of someone like Sekhmet, who seems to have decided that the Numemon and Sukamon should be exterminated if they hate her light so much. One they became impressed with (and who doesn't mean them harm) is Amaterasu after they witnesses her explosive poop technique, Brown Fury. Some Numemon and Sukamon are now hard at work trying to find a way to recreate the technique, much to the alarm of much of the Pantheon. Still, they would prefer if Amaterasu covered up that blindingly shiny white fur of hers whenever she passes by.
  • They seem to fancy themselves suave Casanovas, so they never miss a chance to hit on deities they find attractive, and the deity's species doesn't matter to them either. Unfortunately for the Numemon and Sukamon, they're just so inherently unappealing that their success rate is basically zero.
  • In one world, a Numemon named Catherine became partners with Lili, of Tekken fame. The badassery must have rubbed off on Catherine, as she managed to evolve into a Monzaemon, and then into a Lilithmon. This has made Catherine into something of an icon and point of pride within the community (especially as Lili is hot in their opinion). Lili has no problem with acknowledging any of this, regardless of Numemon's infamy, and happily fights alongside Catherine against other deities with Digimon of their own, be it for recreation or for real.

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