Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
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means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles:
Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles:
The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM
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I've had Tahm Kench reserved (Beware the Silly Ones). I'll work on him after I finish Rengar.
Edit, Speaking of Rango:
Rengar, God of Hunters (the Pridestalker, Knife Kitty, Kinfecat, Rango, Murderkitty)
- Theme Song: Rengar's theme
- Rank: Intermediate God
- Symbol: His Bonetooth Necklace◊
- Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
- Portfolio: Large and Bulky, but Agile and Fast, Battle Cry, Battle Trophy, The Berserker, Blade Below the Shoulder, Blood Knight, Braids of Barbarism, Cat Folk, Creepy Souvenir, Dual Wielding, Difficult, but Awesome, Dynamic Entry, Glowing Blue Eye and Red Eyepatch, Genius Bruiser, Invisibility Cloak, Knife Nut, Lightning Bruiser, Make Me Wanna Shout, Magikarp Power, Mighty Roar, Night-Vision Goggles, Panthera Awesome, The Hunter, Trophy Room, Unskilled, but Strong, Loves Taunting in Fights
- Domains: Hunting, Combat
- Allies:
- Fellow Champions: Caitlyn, Akali, Ahri, Leona
- Others: The Monster Hunters, Samus Aran, The Hunter, Team RWBY
- Enemies:
- Rivals: The Defenders of the Ancient, Nidalee
- Friendly Rival: Scarface
- Rengar managed to sneak his way into the Pantheon, before announcing his arrival with a mighty roar, leaping out of nowhere as he decloaked, landing on Strygwyr and proceeding to savage the Bloodseeker. Strygwyr managed to fight off Rengar, but not before taking a severe slashing.
- Rengar was overjoyed to see his allies Ahri and Leona in the Pantheon. As well as his rival Nidalee... Some may say too excited to see her.
- Upon seeing the many powerful creatures in the Pantheon, Rengar had only one thing to say:
Also, Priam:
Priam, God of Super-Late Characters and Bragging Rights Rewards (Paris, Radiant Hero, Battle Hobo, the Hobo)
- Potential house: Heroes and Gaming
- Rank: Lesser god
- Symbol: His Ragnell pointing downwards
- Alignment: Chaotic Good
- Portfolio: Starts With Luna, Badass, Badass Baritone, Blood Knight, Canon Welding, Cool Sword, Deadpan Snarker, Defeat Means Friendship, Excalibur in the Rust, A Father to His Men, Heroes Prefer Swords, Heroic Lineage, Hero of Another Story, Large Ham, Has Sol, Lightning Bruiser, Harnesses His Chi, Doesn't Talk Much, Rated M for Manly, Walking Spoiler, You Gotta Have Blue Hair
- Domains: War, Combat, Heroism
- Allies: Ike (his ancestor), Robin, Lucina, Alexander the Great, Kellam
- Enemies: Grima, Ganondorf
- Friendly Rivals: Chrom, Garen
- Ascended to his position of Eleventh Hour Rangers and Bragging Rights Rewards for the simple reason of this: Priam was the last Spotpass character to be in Awakening, and the Spotpass Paralogues can only be done at the endgame. He's as eleventh-hour as it gets - Priam is neither seen nor heard of any time during the story, and like the other Spotpass Paralogues his chapter only comes up right before the Endgame. The reason why Priam was chosen is due to the fact that his Paralogue is the hardest mission in the game, harder than even the final battle. As a result, once he's recruited there's really nothing left to sic him on.
- Some do not believe his claims of being Ike's descendant, despite having Ragnell. They often derisively refer to him as "that insane hobo", though not within earshot of Priam.
- He was very pleasantly surprised to meet his ancestor, Ike. Surprising many, despite Priam's Ragnell being very beat-up and lacking most of the magic that made it powerful, he still managed to keep up with Ike, and most of their matches end in a draw.
- Somehow, Priam amassed a group of fifty followers before encountering the Shepherds. All of these followers were very loyal to Priam, and he to them.
- Often has a habit of scaring the crap out of people by suddenly appearing out of nowhere. Priam doesn't seem to find this a problem.
edited 19th Apr '16 9:03:43 PM by BlackSunNocturne
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Xander, Camilla, Leo and Elise, Deities of Family Loyalty (Xander: Marks, Paragon Knight; Camilla: Bewitching Beauty; Leo: Leon, Sorcerous Prince; Elise: Budding Flower)
- Lesser Deities (Xander and Leo, however, are Intermediate Gods)
- Symbol: The crest of Nohr
- Alignment:
- Xander: Lawful Neutral -> Lawful Good
- Camilla: Chaotic Good
- Leo & Elise: Neutral Good
- Portfolio:
- All: Family Loyalty (As Long As One Doesn't Cross The Line), Good People Under A Scumbag's Rule, Badass Family, Dark Is Not Evil, Believers of Grey-and-Gray Morality, Subverting Rules For Morally Sound Acts, Royalty Superpower
- Xander: Aloof Big Brother With Their Instincts, Sibling Leader, From Zero To Hero, Dark Sword Siegfried, A Knight That Does Not Believe In Justice, Comically Serious, Black Knight
- Camilla: The Smothering Big Sister, Fanservice, With Great Strength Comes Great Boobs, Zombie Dragon Rider, Ambiguous Good Preference On Both Genders, Liking To Bath, Teasing, Team Mom, Battle Grace Even When Using Something Like An Axe
- Leo: Badass Bookworm, The Studious Sibling, Shutting Down Mages, Reverse Arm-Fold Poses, High Collar of Doom That's Always Worn Inside Out, Black Magic, Brynhildr Tome, Eating Tomatoes
- Elise: The Baby of the Bunch, The Childish, Innocent Sibling, All-Loving Little Sister Heroine, The Healer, Looking Younger Than Possible Children, Badass Adorable, Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold, Mega Twintails, Sweet Noble
- Domain: Family, War, Combat, Loyalty
- Allies: Corrin, Marth, Chrom. Lucina, Ike, Owain, the whole Anti-Villains House
- Enemies: Grima, Evil Gods of Royalty
- Family stick together. That is the creed of the Nohr Royal Siblings, Prince Xander, Princess Camilla, Prince Leo, Princess Elise, fresh after their grueling days of hell within the Nohr's Decadent Court of Doom where their mothers compete at each other and use them as pawns to get them killed each other. Their familial bonds were strong, that it allowed them to rise, following the one family member that could have made it possible: Their other sibling Corrin.
- While many would think that Xander might need a little judgment adjustment thanks to his strong loyalty to Garon, it is instead only used as a way to strengthen their claim at the throne. As much as Garon was a bitter, horrible king, he was still their family and used to be a good father too. That slime masquerading as him is NOT.
- Their relations with the nobles of Hoshido were... complicated. At first, they were like bitter rivals and Foils. But as time passed, with the efforts of Corrin, looks like they're able to make amends, but no one is sure...
- Xander's journey from being unremarkable into Nohr's top knight is comparable of that with Hercules. While it's not his shared theme song, many can sing "From Zero To Hero" to refer to Xander.
- Xander's black attire and cavalry skills also attracted the attention of Marth, who gets reminded of a fellow Black Knight he knew at home: Camus
- He's also known for being super serious. If he attempts to crack a joke... many thinks that pigs are probably flying in the sky at that point.
- Much like several Gods, Xander is a believer that justice is an illusion, and is not fond with Black-and-White Morality... it's like missing the whole picture. He will respect those who fight for good and their justice, but he'll show disgust to those who induct in Black-and-White Insanity.
- For some reason, Camilla is very popular amongst the people. One can only wonder why. Though humorously, Pokemon trainers seem to think that she's a Pokemon turned human◊. Her response is just a giggle.
- Thanks to her massive boobs, Camilla actually was considered as a new member of the Poly Racks. She seems to be playfully considering it, thinking that probably it's better than court stuffs.
- She seems to have interest in strong women, as they made up her retainers (Selena and Beruka), but that doesn't mean she has no interest in men. Though amongst the Poly Racks, Camilla seemed to take a slight interest on Litchi Faye-Ling, because of their similarly motherly attitude and the fact that they had to endure being an Anti-Villain. Though on the other side, it's because Litchi thinks that Camilla sounds like Carl Clover if he got gender flipped into a sexy lady.
- Camilla is often used as a reason why Nohr is called "The Land of Sexy". When Garon (or that slime impersonating him) is finally dethroned and destroyed for good, they think that kind of slogan can be used. Camilla herself suggested that for lulz.
- This always happens once in a day: Leo's High Collar of Doom is worn inside out and someone had to point it out.
"DAMN IT."
- Many has thought that Leo's Brynhildr is actually the Death Note in disguise. Leo has vehemently denied it, and on research, he went to condemn its wielder, Light Yagami, as Leo has no high opinions on people with god complex delusions. Didn't help that they sound familiar.
- Is also pleasantly surprised that he saw his retainer Odin in the Pantheon, though he went by his original name Owain. Leo has stated that one of these days, he's going to listen to Odin's side of story (that is, his adventures at the Halidom of Ylisse. That encounter with Chrom wasn't enough.)
- As the childish one, Elise remain as the one who can indulge with 'justice' fantasies, as shown with her having someone like Arthur as a retainer. She did get into a little misunderstanding with Tailto, who thinks that her son is serving Elise, but she straightened that little fact out.
- Elise is one of the big reasons why the siblings ascended. She HATES the concept of families fighting each other that she WILL throw herself into the line of fire just so they'd stop fighting. If that happened, even Xander will lose himself... ESPECIALLY because at that time, he did that accidentally.
Also I wonder if Nohr guys would feel more inclined with Noxus... or Demacia? (Though Demacia probably gonna get stuffed with Hoshido...)
I am TEMPTED to make a mention of Terumi, but not in a humiliating way... as in, shall we say that once again, he masqueraded Ryoma's voice to instigate the Hoshido-Nohr war again, but at this point Xander knew better and did not bite in. I know we all have an aversion of mentioning Terumi but it doesn't mean we should really avoid it. We just need to know the line between 'acceptable failure' and 'gratuitous abuse'. The one with Templar Assassin is an example of 'acceptable failure' (and let him have success too, like that time with Nagisa Furukawa).
What do you think?
edited 19th Apr '16 9:09:02 PM by ChrisX
Google "big ears"
Here's the thing: Nohr is basically the in-between of Demacia and Noxus, as Demacia is a fascist nation who ADAMANTLY believes they're doing right and nothing else, whereas Noxus is a pragmatic, imperialistic nation that believes in Might Makes Right/Asskicking Equals Authority.
Nohr (under King Garon), is imperialistic pragmatic nation with a meritocratic military and most Nohrians believe that they're doing what is right. Nohr's Imperialism is justified because.... Well, Nohr looks like a less-inviting Mordor. Seriously, look at this place
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Basically, the Nohrian siblings would get along with people from both nations (well, except Draven. He'd remind them waaaay too much of Hans)
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Did so, I accidentally hit send before I was finished
edited 19th Apr '16 9:18:02 PM by BlackSunNocturne
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Interesting. Explain how Nohr ends up being the in-between? Just to complete the comparison.
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
@faso: So if Stitches here already has a title, will Flesh Golem be his second, then? Unless there's a better representative.
With the Pantheon Pokémon page cutlisted, what are we gonna do with it now?
s. Ascension in 6 days. Repost in 3 and 6 days.James Isaac Neutron, God of TV Geniuses and Children Who Talk Like They're Older (Jimmy Neutron)
- Potential House: Intellectual Archetypes (Knowledge sub-house), Children (Family sub-house), and Words (Quirks sub-house)
- Lesser God
- Symbol: The atom logo on his T-shirt
- Alignment: Chaotic Good
- Portfolio: "genius" who occasionally acts stupidly, an IQ of 210, (sometimes idiotic) Science Kid Designated Hero (though played fast and loose), Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness, hairdo shaped like a swirlie, can breathe in outer space and travel to planets in just days, named after Isaac Newton and James Chadwick, regularly forgets his inventions backfiring, many inventions created out of laziness, Butt-Monkey, Insufferable Genius, "Brain Blast!", from having a Girls Have Cooties mindset to getting Distracted by the Sexy, solving problems that he himself causes,finally gets together with Cindy Vortex at the end
- Domain(s): Science, Technology, Inventions
- Allies:
- Other: James Bond, Katniss Everdeen, the Doctor
- Rivals: Dexter
- Distrusts: Reality Warpers (e.g. Discord)
- Enemies: Dark Danny, Dr. Wily, Dr. Eggman, Dr. Neo Cortex, King Macbeth and Lady Macbeth, Big Brother
- Terse Relationships With: Nicolas North
- Was the last of the Nicktoons Unite team to ascend. Timmy, Spongebob, and Danny were glad to have one of their old allies back. Now they've started working as a team again to fight off the forces of evil.
- James Bond reminds Jimmy of Jet Fusion if he were more suave.
- After one disaster that involved disintegrating Santa and trying (and failing) to do Santa's job, North isn't all too amused with Jimmy.
- Given that one of his enemies was a Reality Warper (albeit thanks to his "matrix generators"), Jimmy always has a wary eye on such deities.
- The Macbeths don't like him, especially after his school bastardized their story and recycled it IN SPACE!
V.S.S.E.known operatives , Heralds of the Light Gun Game (Vital Situation, Swift Execution)
- Potential House: Gaming Genres (Gaming sub-house)
- Demigods (Luke, Marc, and Keith are borderline Lesser Gods)
- Symbol: As seen on the right
- Alignment: Lawful Good with shades of Chaotic Good
- Portfolio: Badass Normal, dispatching at most two operatives to take out entire terrorist organizations, Boring, but Practical powerful handguns with Bottomless Magazines and other weapon options (Machine Gun, Shotgun, and Grenade), can take cover safely in anything, Dodge the Bullet, Government Agency of Fiction, Heroes "R" Us, can shoot thrown knives and grenades mid-flight, 'rewarded' for environmental destruction
- Richard: Greaser Delinquent Appearance, Expy of Albatross, Code Name One-Man Army, Heroic Mime
- Keith: The Bus Came Back in 5 Clear My Name, Eyepatch of Power, McNinja, Flash Step, Katanas Are Just Better, Knife Nut, I Let Christy Ryan Die
- Alan and Wesley: Bishounen, never-used sunglasses (Alan)
- Giorgio: Deadpan Snarker, suave Italian
- Evan: indirect expy of Albert and Michel, one glove on his left hand, Bishounen, one of few agents who can't fire one-handed, French Jerk with a Heart of Gold
- Luke and Marc: Super-Speed/Flash Step, The Big Guy (Luke), Bishounen (Marc), Sleeves Are for Wimps (Luke), Red Oni, Blue Oni, Badass Biker, Unwitting Pawn
- Domain(s): Shooting, Anti-terrorism, Guns, Cover
- Heralds: Special Tactical Force (S.T.F.) (Crisis Zone), S.C.A.R. (Strategic Combat And Rescue) (Razing Storm)
- High Priest: the Duck Hunter
- Followers: AMS, ninjas Guren and Gunjo, pirates Eric and Leah, STAAR (Strategic Tactical Advanced Alien Response), Dream Raiders, Global Humanitarian Special Operations and Tactics, Kevin and Lisa, Special Air Assault Force (S.A.A.F.), Special Independent Force Against Terrorism (S.I.F.A.T.), Bill, Max and Carol, Ben and Norah, Beth and Zack, Lieutenent Kurt Roswell & Lieutenent Robin Bradshaw, Jay and Vanessa, Michael "Rage" Hardy and James "Smarty" Cools, Dhampyrs Light/Michel and Shadow/Albert, P.I. Edward Windsor, the Operation Wolf soldier
- Allies:
- Fellow Light Gun Game participants: Isaac Washington, Ellen Ripley, some of the good Resident Evil deities, (Insert Name Here)
- Others:
- Giorgio and Evan: Alex Louis Armstrong, Daisuke Jigen, Roronoa Zoro, Solid Snake
- Enemies: Terrorist organizations, Raul Menendez, Caleb Goldman, Albert Wesker
- Annoyed With: the Duck Hunt Dog
- The handguns the VSSE agents use are of unknown, make, model, and caliber, but given it's possible to cherry tap anything to death with them (ranging from gigantic VTOL craft to an old WWII artillery bunker), they must be something pretty impressive.
- Ironically, thrown knives are a greater threat to them than other guns.
- Whenever the VSSE agents fight, as long as they are in cover, they (as well as the cover) won't take any damage.
- Keith used to have a partner, Robert Baxter, but his betrayal of VSSE has rendered him a Persona Non Grata among its members. He, as well as Luke and Marc, are tight-lipped regarding the details.
- While wandering the Pantheon (on break or on a mission), Giorgio and Evan could often swear they heard one of their allies, Captain William Rush. The first time, they encountered the Strongarm Alchemist and had to endure his sparkling muscles. The second time, it was one of Lupin III's sidekicks and they got into a shooting match. Third time, it was one of Luffy's Straw Hats. Fourth, it was Solid Snake during a counter-terrorism operation after they got him out of a bind (not that Snake needed it). Because of reasons, the duo managed to become allies with all of them.
- As professionals, the VSSE agents aren't that annoyed when the Duck Hunt dog laughs at them. They'd still rather not have him around, though: civilians putting themselves in the line of fire makes their mission harder, no matter how good the Dog is in battle.
Since I'm working on Chuck, I'll need to "shove" a database into his head a la INTERSECT since by Season 5 he no longer has it, but can apparently kick ass without it. Problem is, I can't figure out how exactly that's going to work. So far, all I got going with me is some database program project worked by the GUAG or the House of Knowledge, led by Liara T'soni a.k.a. The Shadow Broker.
edited 19th Apr '16 9:13:36 PM by nightelf37
TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
... well then. Didn't see that coming.
I'd still like to know what happened to Elan.
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I'll note on about Draven-Hans, but I think that Draven himself would be a little too disgusted with Hans. Something like 'Has no style' or in his own words, 'Not Draven enough'. Especially when Hans doesn't care about how he kills and seems like to enjoy killing just for the sake of killing too.
Google "big ears"
Pretty much. I think if he should lose one, it would be the one of Dead Weight but we'll see.
@Chris Wait, Camilla uses an Axe?
I think Axe found his new waifu ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
There is also another Hans
edited 19th Apr '16 9:18:18 PM by fasoman1996
Uni cat
Fair enough. They'd also be leery of any jackass Evil Sorcerers because of Iago.
Xander: Is EVERYONE named Hans a bastard?
The Captain: -glares silently-note
Swain is veeeeeeeery sketchy, but not so much "evil". Like, they'd be able to see a reason to understand him, but probably wouldn't be too keen on him (because anyone isn't much of a villain compared to Garon or Anankos).
And they'd DEFINITELY not like LeBlanc.
Edit: No, because "dastard" and "bastard" look similar, but are totally different Also, Fire Emblem isn't too averse to swearing (just they don't go past bastard).
edited 19th Apr '16 9:32:05 PM by BlackSunNocturne
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Axe and magic tome, specifically. But official arts have her use the axe more.
Speaking of Axe, yes, I am still considering the reconstruction of making Axe and Darius into one house. Any words on that?
How much does Swain count for 'jackass Evil Sorcerer' (or maybe LeBlanc)? It doesn't mean I want to ascend Swain, but let me know.
BTW: WOW. That's a nice word to put it on Hans. Though maybe because it's from Fire Emblem, it should be more like "Is everyone named Hans a dastard!?"
That thing has been put down with the vote of 'No we'll not do it.'
edited 19th Apr '16 9:26:59 PM by ChrisX
Lets not do the whole mute Weil angle. As much as I LOATHE Weil over the chain of crappy retcons that went in his favor, that's not cool given the seiyuu in question is also the voice of Eggman and Master Xehanort (Terranort is played by his son).
Shocking Gun!
@Hans(es): It's the "S" on the name. You can trust guys called Han. Though they might not be the most heroic of the bunch.
Also, speaking of combining profiles, I sometimes wonder if I should combine Yagyuu and Mirai under Parasol of Pain.
Also also, there are like two people with Reset Button already.
edited 19th Apr '16 9:29:26 PM by TPPR10
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Google "big ears"
Reading more into spoilers of the game (Fire Emblem doesn't interest me, so no big deal) but Anankos sounds suspiciously similar to Deathwing. There was a time when D-Wing posed as Lord Prestor and became an important member in the human kingdoms, particularly Lordaeron where he was allowed to marry Calia Menethil and become a member of the Royalty. Somewhat similar when Anankos possesed Garon.
That also reminded me, Deathwing and Arthas are technically siblings-in-law
edited 19th Apr '16 9:36:30 PM by fasoman1996
Uni cat
Actually Anankos isn't posing as Garon. He's using Garon's reanimated corpse as his direct puppet.
Also: @ Arthas and Deathwing's familial status
Also: The Nohrian Siblings would be Corrin's Family of Choice, the Hoshidan siblings are Thicker Than Water (except not really)
edited 19th Apr '16 9:42:47 PM by BlackSunNocturne
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Also, technically, Tracer should have been eligible to enter. However, she must use her Overwatch credentials than her appearance in Heroes Of The Storm for that. The game might not been out, but it has enjoyed quite a bit of Closed Beta and coverage. Well that's what I think. If Closed Beta does not count, let me know.
Hold up. That is an interesting choice. Which one fits the Nohrian siblings for the portfolio: Family of Choice or Thicker Than Water?
edited 19th Apr '16 9:46:29 PM by ChrisX
Google "big ears"
I want to wait until the game is released, as it's just a month away for release anyway so no big deal. I was just curious as to how elligible is someone when they "debut" on a crossover.
@BSN Imagine the family reunions.
D-Wing: So how's the old man?
Arthas: I killed him...
That being said, were the Hoshido siblings considered?
Edit: Oh, Nevermind
edited 19th Apr '16 9:49:02 PM by fasoman1996
Uni cat
Well, Corrin was raised amongst the Nohrians (and they find out they were adopted early in the story), hence: Family of Choice.
However, Corrin comes to believe that the Hoshidan siblings are their half-siblings: Thicker Than Water (they're not because the fact that you can S Support with all of them of the opposite-sex spoiled that)
So.... technically BOTH sets of siblings are Family of Choice The Nohrians fit more for Thicker Than Water to each other, best explained by the Nohr page for the Fates' character pages:
- Thicker Than Water: Applies to the royal siblings, and also Deconstructed. Garon's inability to sever ties with a woman once he fell in love with her led him to take many concubines in addition to his wife. As a result, he sired a lot of illegitimate children. While he loved all of his children equally and doted on them like a good father would, his concubines fought and chafed with one another for his favor and used their children as a part of this. Assassinations and deaths of both concubines and children occurred until only four half-siblings were left: Xander (the legitimate heir), Camilla, Leo, and Elise, who were all tired of the in-fighting and resolved the inheritance of Nohr's throne among themselves and in the process formed strong ties to one another. Unfortunately, the whole affair appears to have hardened Garon and he became neglectful, abusive, and ruthless. Because Xander, Camilla, and Leo remember Garon's doting affection for them, they will not directly oppose him even if they agree that his rule at the present is overly harsh and ruthless, and they hope that once their father conquers Hoshido, he will go back to who he was. What they don't know is that Garon expired shortly after the whole affair and his corpse is being used as a familiar by Anankos in his plot to destroy both Hoshido and Nohr. Subverted with the Avatar, who is not of Garon's blood, but the siblings love them all the same and consider them a part of the family nonetheless.
edited 19th Apr '16 9:55:37 PM by BlackSunNocturne
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.... Not sure how this affects the Hoshidan siblings for entry to the Pantheon. But thanks for the explanation. Don't worry, if they are entering, I'll make sure it's for the most right reasons.
Also considering that we'll be moving the Story to somewhere else (... um, where again? Tumblr?) I might consider to reboot the Morality Civil War story. Maybe after CF console is out and we get a clear view of their story. Hopefully, less Idiot Ball and more Justice For All (heh).
I would think that given the situation, the Nohr siblings would sympathize with Litchi. I've mentioned with Camilla, but I think given how jaded Xander is about justice, he'd think that just blaming Litchi for helping Terumi is just equal to treating the whole Nohr as a complete unsalvagable Wretched Hive because they serve Garon and not directly disobeying him because of already knowing how 'evil' he is, forgetting that there are decent people there, basically the kind of Black-and-White Insanity he disagreed at. Leo and Elise, I don't know, probably just general 'respect' thingy.
That said, I really could use more additional info that can fit Elise. Opinions?
edited 19th Apr '16 11:26:12 PM by ChrisX
Shocking Gun!
To be honest, I wanted MCW to be finished before CF is out just to see some hindsight, but I guess rebooting it is the best option. Even if the only thing what Litchi can even do is try to save Arakune, considering how even the universe itself considers her being irrelevant (mind you, Taokaka is Entitled) and only is around due of Roy, and as such cannot even be part of the big picture.
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
The Pantheon/Pokémon page is back. As much as I could anyway with the Internet Wayback Machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20150512104720/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Pokemon
edited 19th Apr '16 10:56:20 PM by nightelf37
TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
Looks like Elan got deleted. I could give him The Bard, but I'm looking for another trope that can fit him.
It's been one day and two s. Anything more you want to add to the Silence?
The Silent Priests, Gods of Amnesia Danger (The Silence, The Sentinels of History)
- House: Mind Games
- Lesser Gods
- Symbol: The Eye Drive
- Alignment: Lawful Neutral
- Portfolio: Ancient Conspiracy From the 52nd century, The Spook, Forgotten When Not Viewed, Walking Spoiler, Did Whatever It Took to Stop The End of Time(Which Backfired HORRIBLY), Church Militant, Greys With Horrifying Faces, Paranoia Fuel, Ultimately Benevolent (except the Renegade Splinter Faction)
- Domains: Ambiguity, Conspiracies, Mysteries, Faith
- Allies: Agents K and J, Clockwork, Dialga, Giratina, Nozdormu, Eternity, Iroque
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: The Doctor, Rory Williams
- Enemies: Rassilon, The Master, Caius Ballad, Nerif, Dalek Caan, Xehanort
- Opposes: Those who would cause paradoxes
- Opposed by: The House of Children
- Pities: Cassandra, Absol
- Whenever you see a Silent, keep your eye on it. Make sure they're watched, because if you aren't looking you'll forget all about them. Even if you write down or tally them, you won't understand what happened. The majority of the pantheon only noticed them because of the Eye Drives, which the Silence gave them so they could apply for god-ship. They've probably been wondering around since the pantheon began.
- The Silence aren't just dangerous because of their amnesia powers, but due to post-hypnotic suggestion; something they've used to manipulate humanity since the wheel and the fire. This backfired when one of their own(known by most as Steve) was tricked into telling humanity "you should kill us all on sight." On the Apollo 11 footage. Most human deities in the pantheon will be compelled to try and kill them, which was only solved in the future before their emergence.
- Despite their power and influence, the Silence have a modest ranking since they aren't Immune to Bullets.
- The Silence approve of Iroque's methods
- It was initially assumed that the Silence wished for the destruction of the universe, causing a Time Crash for it. However, later evidence revealed this was an attempt to stop the annihilation of space-time, so the Doctor can never inadvertently undo the Time Lock and restart the Time War. In truth, the Silence are part of an order trying to protect the time-stream, seeing themselves as the Sentinels of History. They have entered the pantheon in part to make up for their failure.
- Both the destruction of the TARDIS and much of River Song comes from a splinter faction, who the Papal Mainframe has disowned. Despite this, the damage to much of their reputation is done. They've been labelled a Persona Non Grata from the House of Children for their treatment of Melody Pond/River Song
- As their mission was mis-understood, the Silence can sympathize with the lives of Cassandra and Absol.
- Though antagonistic to the Doctor at first, the Silence has made up with him after realizing how far their actions have gone. Neither trust one another, but they recognize each other as a lesser evil and agree that space-time must be protected. As much as it frustrates him, Rory Williams has agreed to this armistice as well for the greater good.
- They detest Xehanort, in part because his destructiveness in way of his goal reminds them of their cataclysmic mistake.
- The Silence have set their sights on other Time Lords who might instigate another Time War, like the Master. With Rassilon, who helped champion the Time War and who sought to use the Ultimate Sanction. Their main target is Dalek Caan, who's ability to break through the War's Time Lock makes it a dire liability in their eyes by even existing.
- As part of their duty, the Silence help out the House of Space and Time, keeping an eye on it to prevent time crashes.
- They have an alliance of convenience with The Men in Black; they help with keeping odd alien events secret, and the Men in Black help the Papal Mainframe.
- The Silence have noticed they share a number of similarities to Slender Man, both being odd, creepy beings that are full of Paranoia Fuel, cause amnesia and have a cool suit. Officially they're unrelated, but you never know. Either way, they are keeping an eye just in case his agenda conflicts with theirs.
- In their holy mission as priests of the Papal Mainframe, the Silent Priests have sought other Eternity himself, the Cosmic Entity in charge of Marvel's timeline, and Nozdormu, who they feel is a kindred spirit.
- Dialga and Giratina have also hired the Silence to keep the space-time continuum stable, with Clockwork guiding them. The Papal Mainframe has found this a great help, believing that if the worst happens they might be able to stop the Ultimate Sanction.
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For a moment I thought you were speaking of the now renamed Quirky Bard, which is... formerly Spoony Bard and held by Edward from FF 4... But if it's The Bard, I was kind of thinking Leliana from Dragon Age: Origins
@TPPR: As much as it's tempting to put that on her page... well hold that thought. We always had a chance that the story mode RUINS it again... just like CP did....
Personally, another reason why I get riled up when it comes to Litchi is a lot of fan reactions, which is in line with what the game thinks. She's irrelevant, so nobody will care if she suffers bad writing, she's just an irrelevant nobody that the main story can go on without her! And if the bad writing made her OOC and look evil/stupid, grab the pitchfork, we'll join in making her the scapegoat and blame her, no one likes her anyway. Do you really think that just because the character is irrelevant means that they can be a fodder for bad writing? That sums up my feeling and bitterness to the 'fandom' overall
Also for Stitches: Does anyone wanna mention how Carbot uses him to put Illidan on his belly mouth in the middle of The Hunt?
Also... apparently Cult and Apocalypse Cult are still free! Which one do you think can be given to the Loptyr Sect? I'll just take Manfroy as its representative. If you don't know the Jugdral series, just measure from their expy: the Grimleal and Validar from Awakening, which will become their heralds/high priests. Do they fit?
If they awaken, we will have solved the issue of 'Every Fire Emblem Deity Will Have Grima As Their Enemies.'... unless of course, it ends up evolving into 'Every Fire Emblem Deity Will Have Grima AND (Manfroy) As Their Enemies.'.
It seems that there are 3 archetypes of Fire Emblem villain: The dark dragon, the evil mage/cultist and the dark emperor. We had Grima for the dark dragon rep, and if this succeeds, we'll have the evil mage/cultist rep, and for dark emperor, I'd say Ashnard would be the best fit.
edited 19th Apr '16 11:56:16 PM by ChrisX
Mmmh, the page directly says this:
So i guess Ekko could get another trope. Reset Button is probably taken.
Also, this same troper had ideas for Kindred (Both tropes are taken, i think) and Tahm Kench (Tropeless). Not sure who could pick it up
Uni cat