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SeptimusHeap
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05:56:14 AM 28th Aug 2014
Stinkfly3 has indexing issues; after I messaged them over Heartwarming.Unikitty they made another unindexed page Tearjerker.How It Should Have Ended.
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Larkmarn
05:56:14 AM 28th Aug 2014
Would it be cool if I messaged him asking to put Self Demonstrating pages through YKTTW rather than just making them?

Also, Heartwarming.Unikitty is just full of bad examples

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Joseph011296
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01:04:07 AM 28th Aug 2014
Is there a way to tag a dead link for removal? I often come across them while reading but don't have the time to remove them personally. Well that and I don't want to risk breaking something, I've only made 2 edits in my time here and both where to correct typos.
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SeptimusHeap
01:04:07 AM 28th Aug 2014
We don't have such a mechanism yet. Only thing I would do is to mark the page you found it on on your To-Do list (with the To-Do button) and then process it later when you have more time. Or post about the dead link on the discussion page.

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SeptimusHeap
Medium: Literature
12:59:09 AM 28th Aug 2014
Seeking commentary on Amarus Cameron's edit on Prolecto. I am inclined to revert it, seeing as I can't see a legitimate reason for that edit.
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Telcontar
moderator
12:59:09 AM 28th Aug 2014
Revert; the page appears fine and should be left up while the revamp is being done elsewhere (e.g. a sandbox).

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hodges14
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12:57:46 AM 28th Aug 2014
Just out of simple curiosity, why is NFL Quarterbacks On Facebook locked? Especially around the time were there's going to be a new convo per week?
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hodges14
08:53:42 PM 27th Aug 2014
Huh, the lock icon disappeared after I asked. I'm confused here.
Telcontar
moderator
12:57:46 AM 28th Aug 2014
No idea. Judging by the frequency of edits to the page, it wasn't locked for very long, so it was probably an accident that was rectified when you pointed it out.

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supernintendo128
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09:20:30 PM 27th Aug 2014
edited by supernintendo128
Where do I put a DMoS for one of the live-action Fairly Odd Parents movies? Do I put it in the Fairly Odd Parents DMoS page or somewhere else like the Film page? And if I do make one, do I have to remove the one I have on the cartoon?
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Fighteer
moderator
08:44:43 PM 27th Aug 2014
edited by Fighteer
Put it on the more specific subpage, in this case, DethroningMoment.The Fairly Oddparents.
supernintendo128
09:20:30 PM 27th Aug 2014
edited by supernintendo128
Got it. I'll just create a "Live-Action Movies" folder and remove my old DMoS.

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Theenmityofages1994
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06:24:14 PM 27th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for an emotionally repressed who opens up and starts showing all their emotions and asserting themselves... and not all those emotions are bright, shiny and positive?
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frosty
06:23:15 PM 27th Aug 2014
edited by frosty
Theenmityofages1994
06:24:14 PM 27th Aug 2014
edited by Theenmityofages1994
Sorry. Brain on the fritz. Taking it to Lost and Found.

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RabidTanker
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06:08:47 PM 27th Aug 2014
edited by RabidTanker
My complaint of the day: I have been reading the Characters:Pokémon:Generation One index and there's an troping error: No Sell. It's more prevalent I the Gen 1 section than anywhere else. One excerpt lists Sandshrew: a Ground-Type being immune to Electrric-Type attacks. In practice, the description is true. But the definition of No Sell lists that an specific flavor of offense is normally effective against it's target, but then the target becomes suddenly immune to the attack. In Pokémon, Ground was ALWAYS immune to Electric and Steel is impervious to Poison. I would try to fix this, but I don't know if there's a trope that suits the above description or am I reading No Sell wrong.
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AnoBakaDesu
06:55:39 PM 21st Aug 2014
It's not just you. One quick survey at all Pokémon pages is enough to tell you that No Sell is practically used as synonym for whatever Type has no effect on [x] Pokémon.
Karxrida
07:07:52 PM 21st Aug 2014
edited by Karxrida
No Sale Laconic: Character is unaffected by an attack or ability.

Going by that and the trope page it doesn't seem like anything is being misused here. It might be slightly Department of Redundancy Department to list every type-based immunity on those pages multiple times (i.e. listing No Sell for every Ground-type being immune to Electricity), but it isn't wrong.
Quanyails
08:30:44 PM 21st Aug 2014
I thought tropes common to typings were moved Pokémon Types to reduce redundancy?
Karxrida
08:54:35 PM 21st Aug 2014
edited by Karxrida
They are, but I'm lazy and forgetful.
Leaper
05:51:21 PM 27th Aug 2014
I don't see anything in the No Sell description that specifies that the attack must normally be effective, or that the immunity be sudden. Point it out?
Fighteer
moderator
06:08:47 PM 27th Aug 2014
Despite the description of No Sell, which I feel is overly broad, elemental immunities are more aptly listed under Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors. No Sell is a plot trope, not a Competitive Balance trope.

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RabidTanker
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05:59:16 PM 27th Aug 2014
Does anyone here knows how to fix this? My malwarebytes antimalware won't run due to an infection. I've tried using the backup Chameleon and it didn't fix the issue. I know I need a another scanner that can fix this, but I don't trust the internet like that. Does anyone here know any links to some free scanners that can remedy this?
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Fighteer
moderator
05:55:12 PM 27th Aug 2014
We aren't a computer helpline. All the major AV vendors have free-to-download tools that will scan your system and clean it of most major infections.
Candi
05:59:16 PM 27th Aug 2014
edited by Candi
Try Spybot, AVG antivirus, and/or Hitman Pro's free 30-day trial.

When you get the problem cleared up, make sure you make frequent system restore points. (In Windows 7, simply search "Create a restore point" and click where it tells you.) Sometimes using a restore point is your only option, and it is a royal pain if your last one was a month ago, and you have to update everything. (embarrassed) (Yeah, I made that mistake.)

Edit:Ninja'd by Fighteer. :p

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Spinosegnosaurus77
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04:05:12 PM 27th Aug 2014
Some of RonanTheAccuser's edits bear similarities to those of Froghammer/Magnussen/MimicThis, but I'm not sure.
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Fighteer
moderator
04:05:12 PM 27th Aug 2014
It's them. Bounced and reverted all edits.

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MagBas
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10:29:00 AM 27th Aug 2014
edited by MagBas
Looking to the edit history in Rurouni Kenshin, Super Saiyaman removed a The Woobie example with the following edit reason: "Enishi's the farthest thing from a Woobie." Is this okay? EDIT: Beyond this, looking to Rurouni Kenshin The Six Comrades, they included the following example:
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bitemytail
03:41:22 PM 26th Aug 2014
Not sure about the woobie thing, but that Unintentionally Unsympathetic is a Zero-Context Example.
DracMonster
04:24:26 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Hmm... for the Woobie one, the example as written didn't specify why they were considered such. It basically worked out to a Zero-Context Example.

Now, it looks like he removed it because he simply disagreed (which is wrong,) but if someone wants it back in, they should include specific details to back it up properly.
Larkmarn
06:53:21 AM 27th Aug 2014
The name was familiar... given how many times he's shown up in ATT I'm surprised he's not banned. He seems to constantly have issue with respecting other peoples' opinions.
DracMonster
09:09:21 AM 27th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Wait.. I did a search on his name. First, yeah he keeps coming up in here. Second, he's supposed to be banned! (I think. Unless Fighteer actually just meant a suspension.)
Telcontar
moderator
10:29:00 AM 27th Aug 2014
Thanks for the report. Suspension issued; his other edits may need cleanup too (it got particularly bad on NetworkDecay.Total Abandonment). He has had two previous suspensions for character bashing, so this one is final.

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hodges14
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07:35:01 AM 27th Aug 2014
edited by hodges14
User kkhohoho has edited the examples on The Nostalgia Critic 2014 Episodes so that 3 periods has been replaced by some weird code that doesn't work. Can this be reverted?
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SeptimusHeap
07:35:01 AM 27th Aug 2014
Did that, manually. It's a fairly common browser problem.

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QuestionMarker
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02:24:00 AM 27th Aug 2014
Is it possible, or even accepted, to use spoiler tags in a review? Or should I rewrite it to contain no spoilers?
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DracMonster
11:39:42 AM 26th Aug 2014
Ain't No Rule that I know of. I'd probably avoid heavy spoilering for readability's sake, but I don't think that sort of thing is really policed on reviews.
Achaemenid
11:40:44 AM 26th Aug 2014
Were it me, I'd just add a line at the start saying "this review contains spoilers" in bold.
MyTimingIsOff
02:24:00 AM 27th Aug 2014
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/about_reviews.php

"Note: Spoiler font is turned off in Reviews. So don't write spoilers."

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XFllo
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09:34:00 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by XFllo
Tropers/lexicon and I disagree about an example of Spirited Young Lady. It's now moved to the discussion page. Could you chip in? Link (scroll down to the bottom).
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lexicon
04:42:22 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by lexicon
It's just X Fllo and I who differ on this and I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be on the page. Is there one?
DarkHunter
06:30:46 PM 26th Aug 2014
I'm not familiar with the work in question, but just from your example it sounds a little iffy. By my understanding, a Spirited Young Lady is a girl who "bends the rules on what's ladylike in the 18th-19th century". The trope description suggests that it is somewhat subtle: she has unladylike traits or behaviors, but still fits in well with high society for the most part.

It seems like the example is based mostly on the fact that she has a foul mouth, which strikes me as not so much "bending the rules" as it is "smashing one particular rule with a hammer", which I don't feel qualifies for the trope.

There is also mention of her not wanting to get married, but I'm not sure how that's relevant considering the SYL trope says such a lady is independent, but not against the idea of marrying. So, again, I don't feel that qualifies her for the trope.

As it stands, I don't think the example belongs, but, again, I don't know the character or the work. Are there other traits that would qualify her for the trope?
lexicon
09:34:00 PM 26th Aug 2014
Well she loves her family, especially her father despite his talk of marrying her off. She enjoys cultivating her mind with her studies. She's never had as much fun in her life as when the children got to play the rustic game from the country, Chase The Pig where she ripped her dress and got splattered in mud and horse dung.

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ryanasaurus0077
Medium: Anime
07:19:33 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by ryanasaurus0077
Never mind, I just realized that may be more trouble than I'm bargaining for, even considering that the real target is that punk who vandalized the shipping parts of the Precure YMMV pages.
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DracMonster
04:31:01 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Wasn't that just one idiot being a rabid Single-Issue Wonk? (Can't recall the name.) If so that doesn't really qualify as the whole fandom going berserk.
Fighteer
moderator
06:55:53 PM 26th Aug 2014
While those may or may not be legitimate examples in the sense of "fits the definition", criticizing the fandom in a self-referential way is just asking for trouble, in my opinion.
ryanasaurus0077
07:19:33 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by ryanasaurus0077
You know what? You're right.

Oh, and I believe that Precure shipping devil is a Master of Puppets called Awesome Kong, if you'll excuse me for mentioning his name.

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Gideoncrawle
Medium: Western Animation
04:28:04 PM 26th Aug 2014
The Total Drama Characters page has a number of pseudo-canonical (i.e. frequently contradicted by the episodes) text bios on the original cast subpages, specifically Total Drama Killer Bass and Total Drama Screaming Gophers. These bios were lifted verbatim from the show's Season 1 website, possibly via Wikipedia.

I seem to recall hearing that this kind of copypasta is not allowed here, but I can't find a statement to that effect. I need confirmation before deleting these bios, if they need to be deleted.
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DracMonster
04:28:04 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Copying wikipedia or IMDB as a work description is a bannable offense, so I'm 99% certain you can go ahead and zap them.

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captainpat
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02:34:22 PM 26th Aug 2014
I don't want to get into an edit war over this specific entry on Steven Universe

  • One-Gender Race: The show's creator confirmed that though the Gems look female, they don't actually have a sex. Steven is the first Gem with a gender.

I take issue with this entry because as of now there's nothing in the actual show confirming this and the creators may or may not change their minds.
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Aiguille
10:54:15 PM 25th Aug 2014
edited by Aiguille
Since your worry could be said of all Word of God, and Sugar very recently reiterated this via her reddit AMA, why not just call it Flip Flop of God if she ever does change her mind?
captainpat
03:12:52 AM 26th Aug 2014
because that's not what trope entries are for. Trope entries are for tropes we can prove actually occurred. See our How to Write an Example page.

  • Don't Speculate, Don't Prognosticate: You may have a good reason for assuming the trope will be used in a show eventually, but if you haven't seen the trope in the work, you haven't seen the trope used in the work, whether it's because the creators haven't put it in yet, because they're not going to put it in, or because you haven't actually seen the work in question. If and when you actually see the trope used add it — but not before. By the same token, don't say "used in pretty much every [genre] work," particularly if you haven't seen literally all of them and can confirm that it's in them.

Aiguille
08:46:41 AM 26th Aug 2014
But Word of God is neither viewer speculation nor viewer prognostication. As creator, Sugar's not guessing, she's dictating canonical status via her choice to present some series info as being All There in the Manual.
captainpat
09:11:40 AM 26th Aug 2014
edited by captainpat
No. All There in the Manual would mean that there's an official work with related to this franchise with that information. I don't think a reddit AMA counts as an official work. Also, again she may or may not be decide to change her mind. She may or may not be involved with the franchise in the future.

The propose of a trope entry/example is to explain how a trope is used in a work. What the creator says should have no barring on that.
DarkHunter
09:32:48 AM 26th Aug 2014
While I agree that the above does not fit in All There in the Manual, there are trope entries all over this wiki based entirely or mostly on Word of God.

"The propose of a trope entry/example is to explain how a trope is used in a work. What the creator says should have no barring on that."

Where in the world did you get that idea? Word of God is not viewer speculation or prognostication. It is the writer sharing some extra information that they haven't had a chance, or didn't think, to provide in the work itself. It is considered canon, and therefore tropable.

"Also, again she may or may not be decide to change her mind."

Now YOU are the one engaging in viewer prognostication. If the writer changes her mind at some point in the future, then we have an example of Flip Flop of God, and the entry can be updated to reflect that. But that hasn't happened, so it's a moot concern at this point.
Aiguille
09:53:29 AM 26th Aug 2014
As an aside, its mildly perplexing that we wouldn't consider this online material "official." Sugar ostensibly did the AMA to promote her works, so it would seem as valid as any other commercial promotional effort, like their in-universe and out-of-universe blogs, even if it doesn't have a price tag attached.
Fighteer
moderator
10:23:53 AM 26th Aug 2014
edited by Fighteer
Tropes can be established by Word of God, even if not evident in the original material. At least, that's how I've always seen it. Word of God, used as an example, is Trivia, but if it establishes canonicity, then the objective trope in question may be listed as normal. It just needs more than "confirmed by Word of God" as a description.
Aiguille
12:27:32 PM 26th Aug 2014
So, the One-Gender Race example needs the relevant AMA permalink in its text, (or one of its predecessors) to be fully kosher, yes?
bitemytail
02:31:08 PM 26th Aug 2014
^ From the TV Tropes home page:

We are not a stuffy encyclopedic wiki. We're a buttload more informal. We encourage breezy language and original thought. There Is no Such Thing as Notability, and no citations are needed.

Emphasis added.
DracMonster
02:34:22 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Oh, to clarify on the Word of God thing. We do have a policy that when Word of God contradicts what is shown in the work, we go with what's in the work. (For example, if the work has two guys snuggling and kissing, but the author claims there is no intended Homoerotic Subtext.)

But if Word of God establishes something not shown and/or unclear, it can be included as a trope if it is not a blatant contradiction of the actual work in some way.

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MagBas
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11:14:17 AM 26th Aug 2014
Recently, this bit was added in Composite Character: "This can also apply to the latest adaptation of a long-running franchise having the character share traits with his or her incarnations in the previous continuities." Is this okay?

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PaulA
10:19:56 PM 23rd Jun 2014
I'm not sure that makes sense. Isn't sharing traits with previous versions of the character pretty much part of the definition of being the same character?
Zyffyr
11:52:18 PM 23rd Jun 2014
I think the intention in that is :

Character X in the original books has traits A,B, and C. The same character in the movie adaptation has traits A,B, and D. The video game version has C,D, and E. Now a comic book comes out and has A,D, and E.

The apparent logic being that the comic guy is somehow a composite of the prior three.

That said, I don't think it really makes sense either.
theAdeptrogue
12:42:42 AM 24th Jun 2014
^ Isn't that just a case of Depending on the Writer?
randomsurfer
07:58:14 AM 25th Jun 2014
edited by randomsurfer
I think that what the added bit means is, the adaptation's version has a composite of characterizations from Legacy Characters. Like if an adaptation of Green Lantern is about Hal Jordan [classic Silver Age character name] who is black [from the John Stewart version], a jerkass [Guy Gardner], and his weakness is to wood [Alan Scott/golden age version]. Te early 1990s tv version of The Flash (1990) was named Barry Allen and worked in a police crime lab but was a Big Eater like the Wally West version of the Flash.
MrDeath
09:33:44 AM 25th Jun 2014
Or in Batman and Robin, how Mr. Freeze combined traits of his BTAS incarnation (tragic origins, wife dying and frozen) with traits of the original version (pun-spouting, cackling mad scientist).
MagBas
01:22:14 PM 25th Jun 2014
His BTAS incarnation is not a Legacy Character(In other words, a different character using the same identity)to the original version, not more than the incarnation of Batman/Bruce Wayne in BTAS qualifies as a Legacy Character to his comic book version.
MrDeath
01:36:07 PM 25th Jun 2014
Which is why my sentence starts with "Or". The language on the page doesn't say anything about a legacy character.
MagBas
03:02:27 PM 25th Jun 2014
edited by MagBas
Quoting Paul A: " Isn't sharing traits with previous versions of the character pretty much part of the definition of being the same character?" Beyond this, this bit was added 23 jun, if i am not mistaken, without discussion in any place, by Captain Tedium.
MrDeath
03:50:19 PM 25th Jun 2014
I think it applies when the different versions of the character are different enough, and existed separately, as is in the case of Mr. Freeze there.
MagBas
06:45:55 PM 25th Jun 2014
"this bit was added 23 jun, if i am not mistaken, without discussion in any place, by Captain Tedium."
MagBas
07:46:23 AM 27th Jun 2014
Bump.
MagBas
05:44:17 PM 29th Jun 2014
Bump.
MagBas
02:34:16 PM 30th Jun 2014
Bump.
Zyffyr
03:18:37 PM 30th Jun 2014
I don't see any objections to reverting that change...
MagBas
09:30:44 AM 1st Jul 2014
Okay, thanks. But and the fact that Captain Tedium put a bit in the description of a trope without discussion in any place?
MagBas
03:17:01 PM 22nd Aug 2014
KJ Mackley included a similar bit recently: "In some extreme cases with certain stories that have regular adaptations every few years, an Era-Specific Personality gives them the opportunity to fuse specific versions of the SAME character in different adaptations, making them a composite character of themselves." Researching KJ Mackley in the forums, i noted that they participated of a discussion about Composite Character, but a discussion about Image Pickin, not a discussion about the description of the trope.
MagBas
09:15:46 AM 23rd Aug 2014
Bump.
SeptimusHeap
02:05:20 AM 24th Aug 2014
I personally would be inclined to remove that item. A character sharing properties with his incarnations in other continuities strikes me as a bit too broad to be put in Composite Character - it's more of "well, they are the same character" period.
Candi
05:48:35 AM 24th Aug 2014
I think it would be the flip trope -one character taking on many different forms, Depending on the Writer and other factors.
MagBas
01:50:30 PM 24th Aug 2014
Well, but i already removed this. I am with fear of start an edit war.
MagBas
06:46:43 AM 25th Aug 2014
Bump.
MagBas
06:24:52 AM 26th Aug 2014
Bump.
Ultimatum
10:45:05 AM 26th Aug 2014
Uh Mag,please lay off the bumping
MagBas
11:14:17 AM 26th Aug 2014
Sorry...

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SeptimusHeap
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05:39:45 AM 26th Aug 2014
jimpliskin just added a line to Feminist Frequency that said "The point of the series is to point out how men suck". I don't know that series very well, but I am sceptical of that edit. Opinions?
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Irene
03:50:03 AM 26th Aug 2014
Extreme Flame Bait. I'm in the kill it with fire opinion.
Telcontar
moderator
05:39:45 AM 26th Aug 2014
Given that he's a brand new account and that's his only edit, I'm thinking troll. Wiki-suspended.

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ryanasaurus0077
Medium: Western Animation
01:05:37 AM 26th Aug 2014
  • Evil Plan: Jafar's Batman Gambit. Upon his release, he immediately comes up with a plan to retake Agrabah and kill all of his old enemies, relying on two people to help him accomplish this task: Abis Mal, and Iago. Both serve him out of utter fear, and Jafar almost gets away with all he has done. This includes having Iago lead Aladdin and the Sultan astray while Jafar imprisons the Genie, Abu, and Jasmine; chasing Aladdin down a waterfall and having him live so that he can return to Agrabah and be arrested for the 'murder of the sultan' - after which he would be humiliated by Jafar disguised as Jasmine right before his death. Had Iago not interfered, Jafar would have won.

Is it an Evil Plan or a Batman Gambit?
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DracMonster
11:54:31 AM 25th Aug 2014
What makes you think those are mutually exclusive?
ryanasaurus0077
12:21:56 PM 25th Aug 2014
Nothing. I just wanted to know if it qualified as a Batman Gambit.
Larkmarn
01:32:42 PM 25th Aug 2014
edited by Larkmarn
As written, just seems to be Evil Plan. Might be Batman Gambit as well but as written it seems fairly straightforward.
Fighteer
moderator
03:15:13 PM 25th Aug 2014
edited by Fighteer
Batman Gambit is often confused. It means a plan that relies on a specific prediction about the behavior of the victims/dupes, based on knowledge of their psychology/patterns. It fails if they don't behave as predicted.

Evil Plan is one of those supertropes that's almost a qualifier for omnipresence. The example given above is little more than a summary of the plot.
SeptimusHeap
01:05:37 AM 26th Aug 2014
A lot of Evil Plan examples are former examples of Xanatos Gambit that did misuse it and were changed to Evil Plan as the better trope.

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ryanasaurus0077
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04:38:03 PM 25th Aug 2014
edited by ryanasaurus0077
ikeepcrawlingback just accused someone of linking to Hitler for misspelling The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You on the D to G tropes section of The Nostalgia Critic. Grammar Nazi, hypocrite (of sorts), PURE GENIUS! Can we make The Forth Wall Will Not Protect You a redirect to Adolf Hitler? Brought it up here just to be on the safe side, of course.
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Ultimatum
03:17:35 PM 25th Aug 2014
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=TheNostalgiaCritic.TropesDToG (context) As for your suggestion..no we're not making a redirect to Adolf Hitler
Bisected8
03:20:06 PM 25th Aug 2014
edited by Bisected8
While the comment is mildly amusing in context, it's not really funny enough to justify a redirect that won't make any sense outside of a soon-to-be-forgotten edit reason (unlike, for example, Chekov's Gun, The Forth Wall Will Not Protect You doesn't really carry any meaning on its own which could be used to make a joke of it, let alone one about Hitler).
randomsurfer
04:38:03 PM 25th Aug 2014
edited by randomsurfer
crawlingback's comment was a reference to the classic propaganda poster When You Ride Alone, you Ride with Hitler!

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ryanasaurus0077
Medium: Western Animation
01:33:19 PM 25th Aug 2014
Is this moment from Lady and the Tramp funny enough for its Funny Moments subpage?

  • From the beaver scene:
    Tramp: What you need is a log puller... (The beaver continues chewing on the log, ignoring him) I said "a LOG PULLER"!!!!! (voice rumbles)

Also, is this scene from 101 Dalmatians enough of a Tear Jerker?

  • The scene where Pongo comforts a frightened Perdita, who was hiding from Cruella under a kitchen stove and worrying over the idea of having puppies (since Cruella was desiring to take them away, to say the least). This becomes even more heartwrenching when Perdita sadly laments that she wishes she wasn’t having any puppies and then breaks into tears as Pongo gives her a calm kiss. "Poor Perdita. Of course, she had no choice," said Pongo in narration afterwards.
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Achaemenid
11:38:31 AM 25th Aug 2014
Do you think they are? If so, add 'em. It's YMMV.
Larkmarn
01:33:19 PM 25th Aug 2014
Yeah, as long as someone thinks they're funny enough, then they are.

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ryanasaurus0077
Medium:
10:25:42 AM 25th Aug 2014
edited by ryanasaurus0077
Shall we add Qubo to the list of pages that need to get namespaced? Because I spotted one or two other pages linking to Qubo in which the proverbial gun got jumped (the page isn't in the Creator namespace yet).

UPDATE: Never mind, I just now took care of it.
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TheOneWhoTropes
10:25:42 AM 25th Aug 2014
edited by TheOneWhoTropes
I thought it was on Administrivia.Creator Pages In Main already, I thought I asked for it to be put on a while ago.

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Nohbody
Medium: Literature
05:54:57 AM 25th Aug 2014
Yesterday, Kadorhal un-wicked the book entries in Jack Ryan that were redlinks because there's not yet an article. I sent him a PM explaining that wiki policy is to leave works links red on both work and trope pages to a) encourage people to make the page, and b) so trope lists have a ready target if/when the work page goes live.

I was about to change the edits back based on that, but realized that I'm not actually sure where that policy is stated... or if it even is a policy, and I'm not just misremembering something.

Is there such a policy, and where (if anywhere) can it be found?
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Telcontar
moderator
04:53:59 AM 25th Aug 2014
You remember correctly. It's stated briefly on Red Link but I'm not sure where else.
SeptimusHeap
05:24:14 AM 25th Aug 2014
It's also on Frequent Redlinks.
Nohbody
05:54:57 AM 25th Aug 2014
Thanks.

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NativeJovian
Medium:
05:30:16 AM 25th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for when someone fakes an identity not as a specific person, but as a generic member of a "higher" level of society? Something like a commoner pretending to be nobility, or in a Fantastic Caste System a "minion" caste member pretending to be part of the "leader" caste.

This seems to be a relatively common plot element (I can think of a handful of "pretending to be nobility" examples off the top of my head) but I couldn't find a trope for it. Anyone know if one exists, or should I take it to YKTTW?
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emeriin
10:38:03 AM 24th Aug 2014
You need Lost and Found.
Morgenthaler
10:39:39 AM 24th Aug 2014
You want Lost and Found—it's linked at the top of this page. Mr. Banner, stay gone please.
NativeJovian
11:40:47 AM 24th Aug 2014
Whoops, sorry — thought this was Lost and Found. Must've clicked the wrong link, my bad.
KarjamP
10:46:27 PM 24th Aug 2014
@Morgenthaler: The "Big Green Banner" running gag's getting old.

Heck, even Fast Eddie himself thought that the running gag's becoming stale from overuse.
Morgenthaler
01:00:00 AM 25th Aug 2014
^ For clarity, I didn't mention it to be funny.
Candi
02:49:31 AM 25th Aug 2014
Morgenthaler was effectively saying, "No one make that joke, please. It's on life support, it's so old."
CrypticMirror
03:54:44 AM 25th Aug 2014
As the person who originally told that joke, can I just say that I am starting to regret telling it now. I would seriously encourage people to let it go.
Ramidel
05:30:16 AM 25th Aug 2014
@Morgenthaler: It still comes across as a metajoke. Which probably means that we should put the whole thing to bed.

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Ramidel
Medium:
05:27:19 AM 25th Aug 2014
edited by Ramidel
Terran117 dropped an absolutely terrible example of bad Example Indentation (using subbullets as paragraph markers to respond to himself) on Romanticism vs. Enlightenment that didn't even relate to the trope.

Also, his history has him adding ZCEs, violating Repair, Don't Respond, adding unsourced "general examples" and deleting examples without edit reasons (admittedly, the deletion I'm looking at was also a ZCE, but edit reasons are still your friend).
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Fighteer
moderator
05:27:19 AM 25th Aug 2014
Will pull for a chat.

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emeriin
Medium:
05:25:30 AM 25th Aug 2014
Bongobob might need talking to.
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DracMonster
02:23:36 PM 24th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
I gave him a warning to tone it down — I'm not seeing any other misbehavior by him so maybe it's a one-time lapse.

Maybe a mod should weigh in on the argument in that thread. It's not too bad so far but my ad nauseum sense is tingling.
Fighteer
moderator
05:25:30 AM 25th Aug 2014
I'm contemplating some surgery on that article in general; it seems to be getting used as a gossip rag.

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DiplomatfromPluto
Medium: Anime
11:09:49 PM 24th Aug 2014
I found an image of an anime and want to know which it is. The thing is, I'm not sure if this is the kind of page you can ask about specific works, and it may be a hentai. No nudity, but the image is definitely NSFW.

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/117631/Huge-anime-tits
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MyFinalEdits
11:09:49 PM 24th Aug 2014
This goes to You Know That Show, not here.

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MyFinalEdits
Medium:
08:42:10 PM 24th Aug 2014
edited by MyFinalEdits
When it comes to compliance of Example Indentation, Firebird Maximus (edit history) is very inconsistent. In some pages and edits the troper indents the examples correctly, but in others (lone third-bullet "subversion" natter, misindentation of a Star Trek example, lone third-bullet of Sonic example, lone third-bullet of Tenjho Tenge and Familiar of Zero examples, lone second-bullet example in Sarah Jane Adventures) he doesn't. The fact that he makes en masse edits makes it more difficult to spot these flawed edits.

And by the way, I had sent Issue Helpers to him three times in the past. No dice.
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Discar
01:53:41 PM 23rd Aug 2014
He has this habit of crosswicking examples by copy/pasting them wholesale, including any errors in grammar or formatting. He's been banned for it before, but I'm not sure if that's what's going on here. Like you said, the mass edits (and lack of edit reasons) makes it hard to tell.
harryhenry
05:14:31 PM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by harryhenry
If you want to know where he mainly edits, one of them is the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic pages, especially the main trope sections (The A-B, C-D etc. sections specifically.)
MyFinalEdits
03:33:13 PM 24th Aug 2014
Fighteer
moderator
03:50:01 PM 24th Aug 2014
Third suspension issued for exactly the same behavior = he won't be coming back.
ryanasaurus0077
08:15:28 PM 24th Aug 2014
edited by ryanasaurus0077
Put simply, he's fired. Why did he even bother taking his case to the Edit Banned thread after this strikeout, anyhow?
Candi
08:42:10 PM 24th Aug 2014
There's people who think they can talk themselves out of any discipline, and if that fails, sometimes by throwing tantrums. It may work with weak-willed managers who are more concerned about the one loud customer than the dozen nice ones who are put off by such preference, but it doesn't work here. (One of the reasons I love the site.) :)

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Virodhi
Medium: Film
10:25:26 AM 24th Aug 2014
Someone confirm this, please? Works pages are not supposed to be created in the Main namespace, aye?

I only ask because Robot Holocaust already exists under Film, but for whatever reason the trope list has been copypasted into a Main page. Is this correct, or possibly a misunderstanding re: the nature of redirects?
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Rotpar
10:11:33 AM 24th Aug 2014
Works go in the appropriate namespace. Checking the history, it was in Main first and is being moved where it belongs in Film.
SeptimusHeap
10:25:26 AM 24th Aug 2014
Already explained them over PM. They were confused about how to crosswick a page. The Main article is already on the cutlist.

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Ultimatum
Medium:
08:42:04 AM 24th Aug 2014
Would it be OK if I reported a thread in image picking so it can be opened?
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SeptimusHeap
08:42:04 AM 24th Aug 2014
Yes. Sometimes, topics are missed out.

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harryhenry
Medium:
02:05:54 AM 24th Aug 2014
edited by harryhenry
Is it just me, or does the main page description for the I Love the Exties trope seem kinda... snarky towards the trope itself?
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DarkHunter
06:52:27 PM 23rd Aug 2014
I'm not getting that impression, personally. What about seems snarky?
harryhenry
06:57:44 PM 23rd Aug 2014
What I was talking about was this bit at the beginning of the article:

A show genre that is shamelessly and purely based around nostalgia. The format is simple, cheap, seldom varied, and generally goes like this: Celebrity Talking Head: Hey remember [decade appropriate fad]? They were brilliant. (Stock footage of people participating in [fad]) Different Celebrity Talking Head: God, when I was a kid [fad] was everywhere. We had the biggest one on our road. And now no one remembers [fad]. They all have [modern fad]. [Modern fad] users just have no idea what they are missing!
SeptimusHeap
02:05:54 AM 24th Aug 2014
I do not mind its removal, but it will need something to replace it with.

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duskglow
Medium: Live Action TV
09:30:10 PM 23rd Aug 2014
bt8257 has been removing edits from http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Funny/WhoseLineisitAnyway that I don't believe should be removed. If he is correct to remove them, can you please explain why? From the discussion page, this seems to be an ongoing problem.
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mlsmithca
09:05:51 PM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by mlsmithca
I'm not sure I see what you're getting at here; the edits seem more geared toward providing Youtube links. If you're referring to the edit of yours he deleted, please read This Troper to see why that was deleted. (The redlink is deliberate, and for a very good reason.)
duskglow
09:30:10 PM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by duskglow
Ahh. One of those landmine rules I didn't know about. Thanks for the clarification. I think I'll return to being a spectator for now.

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HersheleOstropoler
Medium:
12:06:32 PM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by HersheleOstropoler
Is Clementia's August 1st edit on Boarding School of Horrors kosher? It's not quite a fanfic author blanking a page for something she no longer wishes to be associated with but it seems to be in the same broad category, an editor deleting perfectly cromulent content because they don't like it.
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SeptimusHeap
01:01:41 AM 22nd Aug 2014
That's not a fanfic example, it's a Real Life example. I do not mind its removal - seems like the sort of material that is likely to create problems.
HersheleOstropoler
06:47:36 AM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by HersheleOstropoler
I think it's a valid example and I'm not convinced the stated reason is sufficient to support removal. I'll bet they didn't complain to Mother Jones.

If the whole trope shows up in the NRLEP thread, fine, but this specific example is no worse than any other in the section.
Fighteer
moderator
07:09:03 AM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by Fighteer
The reason stated for removing it is not acceptable. I do believe that needs to go into the NRLEP category, though.
DracMonster
09:51:52 AM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Added it to the thread.

ETA: Could a mod check if the Dirty Cop vote has something fishy going on? There's a rash of nays but no arguments against it in the thread that I would expect from such a strong negative vote. That doesn't add up, especially for a trope that seems like a no-brainer.

ETA 2: Cancel that, misspelled when I was using the page search function, arguments are there.
Nohbody
12:02:17 PM 23rd Aug 2014
BTW, Drac (and anyone else), if adding an entry to the NRLEP crowner, please make a post notifying others that there's something new to vote on. Otherwise, it may wind up slipping under the proverbial radar as the thread sinks further down the index page due to inactivity.
DracMonster
12:06:32 PM 23rd Aug 2014
Oops, sorry. I see you took care of that though, thanks.

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MathsAngelicVersion
Medium:
11:33:37 AM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by MathsAngelicVersion
I came across a bad Funny page, Funny.Candy Land. There's only one example. It uses the first person and is meaningless to anyone that isn't familiar with Card Captor Sakura. Even if you know Card Captor Sakura, the example is more of an observation than a funny moment (but maybe amusing enough to be Hilarious in Hindsight for Card Captor Sakura or Candy Land). Should the page just be deleted?
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MyFinalEdits
10:46:06 AM 23rd Aug 2014
Likely, yes. When an example has nothing but Fan Myopia in its words, then it has very little use, if any.
DracMonster
11:07:37 AM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
You can delete the line and blank the page. Sub pages like YMMV or Funny are the sole case where blanking is acceptable (as long as there's literally nothing on the page to salvage.) Make sure to leave an edit reason explaining.
MathsAngelicVersion
11:18:53 AM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by MathsAngelicVersion
Thanks. The page has been blanked. Will it be deleted? Considering the nature of Candy Land, I can't imagine finding enough Funny Moments to justify having a separate Funny page.
DracMonster
11:33:37 AM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
It must go on the Cut List to be completely burned from existence, but that's not really important for subpages unless the main article itself is zorched. (If you want to cutlist it for neatness' sake feel free, though.)

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Wyldchyld
Medium:
09:03:43 AM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by Wyldchyld
Question regarding spoiler tags and quotes.

Is it solely page quotes that cannot be spoiler tagged or potholed or is it any quote that appears anywhere on the page with examples? I could have sworn there have been past ATT conversations where it was said that quotes shouldn't be spoiler tagged anywhere on pages (especially if completely white) because there's just no point putting a quote on a page that people cannot freely read.

Is that the case? Or is it just for page quotes?
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SeptimusHeap
01:33:43 PM 22nd Aug 2014
Page quotes should not be spoiler tagged since spoilers or spoiler tags don't belong in the part of the page above the example line and the page quote is above the example line. Quotes in the example text are treated like any other example text.
Wyldchyld
09:03:43 AM 23rd Aug 2014
Okay, thanks for the clarification.

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LadyYuki
Medium:
08:38:29 AM 23rd Aug 2014
I recently started putting my user page together, but I'm not sure how to index it - there's no option to edit the Contributor's index, so I can't use that method. What do I do? Also, how can I get the header for my Contributor's Page/Recent Edits to look the way it should?
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DracMonster
09:48:06 PM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Contributor pages are automatically indexed, I believe. Just create yours and you're set. (Good on you for trying to be conscientious about indexing, though.)
Fighteer
moderator
10:34:23 PM 22nd Aug 2014
Make sure to set the page type to "a contributor".
LadyYuki
08:38:29 AM 23rd Aug 2014
Thanks for the help, everyone - looks like things have been resolved :)

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SeptimusHeap
Medium:
01:57:13 AM 23rd Aug 2014
Rhapsody is another editor who forgets to index their pages, given that they didn't index Heartwarming.Nodame Cantabile even after being messaged about indexing over FT Island and other subpages (which they didn't index either).
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MyFinalEdits
Medium:
09:20:28 PM 22nd Aug 2014
How can I move a page from a name to another?
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Zyffyr
05:44:30 PM 22nd Aug 2014
MorningStar1337
05:45:24 PM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by MorningStar1337
  1. Copy the page into the page you want. (like say moving Main.Human Weapon to Analysis.HumanWeapon
  2. Once the page is copied erase the original page and then type [[Redirect:Analysis/HuamnWeapon]] replacing "Analysis/HumanWeapon with the page (and namespace) of the page you copied it to.

ninja'd
MyFinalEdits
06:05:24 PM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by MyFinalEdits
Thanks for the help, guys!

EDIT: Now I'm having another trouble. You see, the page I want to move is from Pandoras Tower Until I Return To Your Side to just Pandora's Tower. The problem is that the latter already redirects to the former, meaning that I cannot access the source code so I can move there the former's content.
Elbruno
07:47:54 PM 22nd Aug 2014
You have to change the URL manually to access the redirect's edit page. Courtesy link.
MyFinalEdits
09:20:28 PM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by MyFinalEdits
Thanks a lot! I've done the move succesfully. And while I was on that I also changed the wicks of the longer-name link so they linked to the shorter name instead. Also moved the YMMV and Triva tabs.

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MorningStar1337
Medium:
08:10:58 PM 22nd Aug 2014
Okay I have a question regarding the forums. I want to discuss the comparisons between fandom and religion and its effects on both but I don't know if I should post this on the On Topic Coverstaions sub-forum or somewhere else. (and before anyone asked, yes I did check the list of things not allowed there)

Should I post my topic on that subforum, somewhere else or on an off wiki forum?
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FastEddie
moderator
06:30:58 PM 22nd Aug 2014
Use OTC.
MorningStar1337
08:10:58 PM 22nd Aug 2014
Okay I posted my topic now. Now All I ahve to do is wait for it to be opened (or nuked)

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SeptimusHeap
Medium:
02:50:14 PM 22nd Aug 2014
<Sigh> Another person who doesn't index their pages: 1upmushroom made TearJerker.Poohs Grand Adventure without indexing even after being messaged about this on Snake Eyes which they didn't index either.
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Fighteer
moderator
02:50:14 PM 22nd Aug 2014
Suspended.

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TuefelHundenIV
Medium:
02:16:34 PM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by TuefelHundenIV
My wife decided to make a new account due to her last one being too old to use with the new password and email stuff that was added.

However for whatever reason her log in isn't working and she hasn't received the verification email for about two days now.

Is there somewhere specific we should look for help or anything she needs to do?

Edit: Ok I think I may have a clue here. She used the same password I use currently. We used to use it for a monthly rental subscription service but I changed a while back so I could use it elsewhere. Could that be the hang up?
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SeptimusHeap
12:58:56 AM 22nd Aug 2014
It's possible that you end up tripping some safety measure by sharing passwords, but you'll have to defer to Eddie's judgment there.
TuefelHundenIV
01:38:23 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Should I shoot him a pm or wait for him to see this?
Fighteer
moderator
06:34:56 AM 22nd Aug 2014
If the failed account creation attempt was recent, we can find it in the site log, but you'll need to shoot one of us a PM with the details.
TuefelHundenIV
02:16:34 PM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by TuefelHundenIV
Fighteer got it. I will shoot one of you a pm with the details first chance I get today.

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AnoBakaDesu
Medium:
01:32:42 PM 22nd Aug 2014
The indexing for Characters.Kill La Kill seems wrong. Shouldn't a character subpage be namespaced as Characters.[Insert Series][Character Group]?
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SeptimusHeap
01:32:42 PM 22nd Aug 2014
It's not the indexing which is wrong, but the title/namespace of the subpages.

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Nithael
Medium:
08:12:05 AM 22nd Aug 2014
User cristancho may be a sock for camilopezo / horde; at least he's making the same sort of edits on the Warcraft character pages and related trope pages, removing anything negative said about the Forsaken.
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Fighteer
moderator
06:11:26 PM 17th May 2014
/sigh. Yeah, it's him. Cleanup needed.
DracMonster
08:02:51 AM 21st May 2014
Is this cleanup or continued warring? Stormknight's edit reasons sound a bit page-ownership-y but I'm having trouble parsing his edits.
Fighteer
moderator
08:12:47 AM 21st May 2014
edited by Fighteer
The grammar of those examples is terrible, although he didn't write all of them. I find this constant point-of-view-taking regarding the factions to be wearisome, but it is absolutely the case that Sylvanas is being made into a very nasty piece of work who may end up becoming an outright villain.
Nithael
01:08:28 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Aaand he's back as spider-fan.
Fighteer
moderator
06:42:55 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Bounced. Feel free to clean up.
Nithael
08:12:05 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Done for all the warcraft things. I don't know enough about his other edits to see if they are legit.

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randomsurfer
Medium:
07:35:16 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Is there a rule about who is allowed to edit Administrivia pages? Is it mods only, etc?
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AnoBakaDesu
12:12:17 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Normally, you can edit them, but due to a certain TVTropes celebrity, several pages had to be locked, in which case you'll have to holler here (or request the mod in charge of those pages?).
SeptimusHeap
12:59:44 AM 22nd Aug 2014
We have a topic Edit Requests For Locked Pages for locked page edits.
randomsurfer
06:18:41 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Actually I'm asking about the opposite - an unlocked Administrivia page which has been edited by a non-mod (AFAIK). I'm not sure that there was any consensus to make the change that was made.
Fighteer
moderator
06:33:56 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Be more specific, please.
SeptimusHeap
07:19:36 AM 22nd Aug 2014
It's YKTTW Guidelines. The edit in question was discussed in a YKTTW named "do notpost just the trope name".
SeptimusHeap
07:20:21 AM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by SeptimusHeap
dp
Fighteer
moderator
07:21:30 AM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by Fighteer
The edit seems reasonable in and of itself, although the tone might be a bit harsh. That article probably should be locked, though.
randomsurfer
07:35:16 AM 22nd Aug 2014
edited by randomsurfer
Thing is, it seems to me that the policy in question has been flipped 180 degrees despite the lack of mod participation in the conversation. (Septimus Heap would be the Closest Thing We Got).

[And on the YKTTW Guidelines page {the editing of which I wasn't aware of until Septimus mentioned it here}, even if this stands - it's implying shouting, not infering.]

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Someoneman
Medium:
05:47:10 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Is it okay to have an example of Moral Event Horizon on YMMV.Acts Of Gord? Since it's nonfiction, wouldn't it count as calling real people evil?
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DracMonster
03:52:27 PM 20th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Yeah that's crossing the line I'd say (Though I admit I question how much of that site is nonfiction.)

ETA: Should that YMMV page exist at all? The other entries are probably dodgy since they're (theoretically) about Real Life people and incidents.
Someoneman
04:39:17 PM 20th Aug 2014
^ I think the YMMV page can stay because even though the website is nonfiction, it is presented as a story and can thus have audience reactions.
StFan
08:00:22 AM 21st Aug 2014
Yes, plus even if it's based on real events, many suspects that the Gord has been embellishing the stories there and then.
Larkmarn
05:47:10 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Yeah, plus even if a work is entirely non-fiction, characters can still be portrayed by an author in a certain light, either by omission of other elements or not showing their perspective.

The author could, for example, paint Gord as being an evil bastard for making a little kid cry by ejecting him when he only wanted to buy a game... leaving out the part that he was a 12 year old using Crocodile Tears to try to get the latest Murder Simulator and had stolen from the store in the past.

But honestly, as written, that's a pretty poor entry. The way it's written seems to be more about Gord's break-in, but the context makes that seem more of a Crowning Moment Of Awesome.

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Morgenthaler
Medium:
05:14:03 AM 22nd Aug 2014
cthulette recently made a really suspicious edit to Crosses the Line Twice that seems to violate the content policy. To top it off, their edit reason starts with "I don't care how you guys feel about it", i.e. s/he doesn't mind being intentionally disruptive.
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Achaemenid
03:49:22 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Good find.

I'd say get rid of it for now. If nothing else, cthulette has failed to state the source (as advised in How to Write an Example). As regards content: if we knew what it was, then presumably the P5 could evaluate it, but we don't, so I would err on the side of caution and get rid of it.

The rudeness in the edit reason is bad too, but discipline is for the mods.
SeptimusHeap
03:51:57 AM 22nd Aug 2014
It's misuse on top of that - nothing in that entry indicates how it's "so offensive it's funny" as opposed to plain "offensive and creepy to boot". I'd be inclined to remove it altogether, especially given the content policy concerns.
Ultimatum
05:14:03 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Its gone.

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TheOneWhoTropes
Medium:
01:02:36 AM 22nd Aug 2014
Should this page be typed as Administrivia instead of a work page - TV Tropes Derivatives?
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SeptimusHeap
01:02:36 AM 22nd Aug 2014
I am not seeing how that is a "work" given the lack of a trope list. I would put it in Administrivia.

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TheOneWhoTropes
Medium:
12:27:58 PM 21st Aug 2014
Work page with no description - Morman. Need to know medium to move it to a namespace.

And before you say anything, Mr. Banner, I was sent here by You Know That Show, who said Ask The Tropers may be more appropriate.
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DracMonster
09:55:54 AM 20th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Hmm, how'd that fly under the radar for two whole years? No idea what medium since there's no description.

ETA: No wicks or inbounds. Honestly, I think this can be safely cutlisted. I'm doubtful there's going to be much interest in properly fleshing it out.
SeptimusHeap
10:04:42 AM 20th Aug 2014
Sly Fox Deveraux is still around. I'll see if I can ask them.
TheOneWhoTropes
10:31:04 AM 20th Aug 2014
edited by TheOneWhoTropes
I've Pm'ed them already - which I forgot to mention here, but did on YKTS.
Rotpar
01:33:47 PM 20th Aug 2014
Googling the work title and a character name isn't helping. Don't remember, can Fast Eddie or the moderators still look up inbounds? This has three links off-site.
theAdeptRogue
05:48:53 PM 20th Aug 2014
Three links is usually not a cause of concern, so I think this should just be cut.

But honestly, is this even an existing work? Because Googling the names of both the work title and characters doesn't really lead anywhere.
Rotpar
07:20:31 PM 20th Aug 2014
Oh, I wasn't arguing keeping it for the inbounds, I can only imagine the inbounds will tell us what this is—if we can follow them out.
DracMonster
07:55:38 PM 20th Aug 2014
edited by DracMonster
Those are almost certainly garbage spambot links — almost every article picks them up automatically.
TheOneWhoTropes
12:27:58 PM 21st Aug 2014
edited by TheOneWhoTropes
Fanfiction story, maybe? If it's the person's own work which is not available except by going into the council offices staff toilet that has "Beware of The Tiger" written on it, then we can cut it, but otherwise, I'll wait and see, because Sly Fox Deveraux isn't on that often.

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SeptimusHeap
Medium:
05:08:42 AM 21st Aug 2014
Diurnal Brocolli has issues with indexing - after I messaged them over WMG.Total Drama Tweenabet (which they didn't index regardless) they made Fanfic.Total Drama Isle again without indexing it.
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Fighteer
moderator
05:08:42 AM 21st Aug 2014
Suspension issued.

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SeptimusHeap
Medium: Film
03:32:19 AM 21st Aug 2014
I don't know for sure, but this looks like a spam post to me.
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Telcontar
moderator
03:32:19 AM 21st Aug 2014
Yup. Bounced.

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