• 0 Nov 21st, 2017 at 12:12PM
    CloudCuckooClock uncommented a commented-out ZCE on Kingdom of Heaven by removing a "%%" formatting.

    When I PM'd them about removing this commenting-out format they answered that according to them they "simply fixed the bullet point formatting". I PM'd back that removing a %% according to this Wiki's formatting has nothing to do with "bullet point formatting" but that %% means "commenting out" (and has not anything to do with indentation), after which they didn't reply.

    Meanwhile, some other Troper unrelated to either Cloud Cuckoo Clock or me, has reverted their Kingdom of Heaven edit with a Zero-Context Example reason.

    If Cloud Cuckoo Clodk was serious in that Not Helping Their Case answer, they don't understand basic Wiki formatting, which is an even more basic issue than ZCE's. If they were just being snarky, there's still a ZCE (and Edit War!) issue. Reply
  • 4 Nov 18th, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Nov, 2017 10:51:23 AM
    There's a note when you edit the film page saying the index is too long and needs to be split. And there are red links for Franchise Films, 2010-2014, and 2015-2019. But those articles haven't been made yet. Can I go ahead and make those pages? That will require taking almost everything out of the main page which will raise flags. Reply

      You'd have to create a TLP entry, but I have plans for a singular year page: Films Of 2012, which will make the page shorter, while not pulling everything.

      I guess I don't understand why a TLP thread is required. The index page from the Aughts was divided into three sub-indexes. Presumably the index page for The New Tens would be divided in the same way.

      It's necessary since making new pages in Main requires TLP. Those sub-indexes were made in 2014, when TLP was encouraged, but not needed. And I will change my entry to five years.

      OK then. I hope anyone who reads this exchange will go to YKTTW and give a hat so we can get the ball rolling on making the page.
  • 1 Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Nov, 2017 10:36:41 AM
    I remembered these days about a TV show or a movie that I used to watch when I was little and the only thing I could remember is that there was a necklace and the person (or a specific person) who wore it could read minds. Any ideas? Reply
  • 4 Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 17th Nov, 2017 10:30:21 PM
    From Trivia.Austin Powers:

    • Sleeper Hit: New Line expected nothing from the first film after it got the worst test screening scores in studio history. Then it grossed $50 million in theatres and became a monster on VHS, breaking a streak held by Disney.

    Can someone please add more detail about the "streak"? Reply

      It was referring to a streak of Disney tapes becoming the highest selling tapes of all time, which I believe Austin Powers did break.

      Should we leave it, or delete that part?

      If you can find the highest-grossing Disney tape that Austin Powers outsold, maybe we could change it to something like, "...became a monster on VHS, displacing (insert tape's name here) as the best-selling video of all time."

      I'm rewording it per our PMs.

      To be honest, I can't find the numbers, so I'm just going to delete that.
  • 5 Nov 14th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Nov, 2017 11:52:10 AM
    Ray AP 9 did a very large edit to the Captain America: The Winter Soldier page arguing that the all-caps spelling of the organization "HYDRA", the version typically used across MCU pages, is unofficial and that "Hydra" with regular capitalization is the proper way to write it. They provide citations for that statement, so it's not a rogue edit, and for what it's worth other places are also holding the same debate, as canonical sources flipflop between the two variants.

    I would like to see further opinions on this before deciding whether this should be reverted or left alone. For the record, if we're going to allow popular opinion to factor into the decision, I am familiar enough with the fanbase to say that HYDRA is the preferred spelling and the one most fans assume to be official. If you would like I can ask Ray AP 9 to join in the discussion as well. Reply

      Hydra is not an acronym so it doesn't need to be capitalized. I have seen it written both ways in works. I am kind of thinking that this is like American v. British spellings and that neither is inherently more correct than the other.

      Edit to add; I find it amusing that the bulk find / replace done on that page accidentally (and incorrectly) capitalized the word 'hydraulic' in a few places.

      I've seen Hydra both ways as well.

      Amusingly, some comics I used to have had HYDRA when it was a label and Hydra when spoken.

      Handling it like the US vs Commonwealth thing seems most sensible, since Marvel's been around HOW long? You could find contradictory examples for anything.

      ^And that is why you do a search, look, and replace. :p

      ^Actually after reading your comment about label as opposed to spoken makes me think that maybe it should be Hydra.

      For military stuff if you see a stamp, label, title bar, patch, or something like that they are usually all caps (ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE, or MARINES). But that doesn't mean that the words are all caps when you write them in general.

      ^^^ Find-and-replace (without context) sorta goes against our policy, as has been seen several times before with text replacement plugins. Whoever did that might need to be talked to.

      It's largely a combo of how it was achieved via find-and-replace and the fact that, even if either version is technically correct, the all-caps spelling is a lot more consistently used across the MCU pages and the TWS page now seems like a large outlier, that makes me lean on reverting it.
  • 5 Nov 11th, 2017 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 11th Nov, 2017 05:16:13 PM
    I recently just saw Spiderman Homecoming and i was wondering if anyone one of you could recommend me a site that i can buy the hoodie or jacket most probably looking like this or similar https://imgur.com/a/41On6 Reply

      Uh... ok. This place is called "Ask the Tropers", yes, but that doesn't literally mean any question. This area is for asking about site policy or reporting problem behavior to the mods. Maybe try the forums.

      Please take your question to the forums. Ask The Tropers isn't the place for it.

      It was taken to the forums before. Not considered a valid question for this site, as it got thumped and the topic locked.

      Just use Google instead. Could this query be locked, please?

      This is a question you'd be better off asking on Quora or a similar site.

      This looks a lot like this thread in Live Action Film: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15100502920A44799000&page=1

  • 4 Nov 7th, 2017 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 9th Nov, 2017 05:40:14 AM
    Hey guys, I indexed this film http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Bollywood/ChakDeIndia under Bollywood, and its being redirected correctly, but when I try to search for 'Chak de india', its not showing up in the results.. I'm new here so this might be a dumb question but can anyone help? Reply

      Ok when I search for 'Chak de!' with the exclamation point I'm able to find it..

      Indexing and the search function are separate. The search function is just a localized Google search.

      ^This, and it may take Google some time to come through here again and catch the new page.

      Correct, Google's spiders need to find it, which takes a little time. Crosswicking it on trope pages will speed this up.
  • 2 Nov 7th, 2017 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 8th Nov, 2017 05:55:53 AM
    Specifically, Damned, the 1998 movie by James Murry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwAWwLtSX7I I haven't seen any sort of tutorials on here for this (and if there are, sorry I missed them) and I am still fairly new here. I just wanna know if I need some form of permission for this, where to start on it, what all those little shortcuts to get those headers up for it, etc. Thanks for you time. Reply
  • 0 Nov 7th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Do we have a page for Wolf Warrior and its sequel Wolf Warrior 2? I ask because i couldnt find it and if we dont ill make one, but i wanted to be sure it wasnt listed under a different translated title, or under its chinese title (Zhan lang) Reply
  • 1 Nov 5th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 5th Nov, 2017 02:56:39 PM
    Who remember a short film during the 2000 - 2007. I remember It was 3d short film fighting scene with pistols. They looks like a potato shape and holding pistol and it was night he was alone fighting group of things like him . He was holding two pistols. And there is slow motion when they shooting . Also it was on the YouTube. Sorry for bad my English language. Reply
  • 4 Nov 2nd, 2017 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 5th Nov, 2017 11:08:54 AM
    Monster Trucks came out last year, and really ought to have a trope page, or some entries, I thought. Am I just the only troper who saw it? (Sorry if this isn't where such a question goes, I don't know what else to do.) Reply
  • 5 Nov 4th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 5th Nov, 2017 12:09:25 AM
    I want to know if I can add Box Office Bomb to the YMMV page of The Emoji Movie. I know it made about 4 times its budget, but Iím pretty sure that there are other costs associated with a movie besides its budget... can anyone help? Reply

      Not sure about the technicalities of your question but just just as an Administrivia heads-up: Box Office Bomb is a Trivia, not a YMMV.

      Box Office Bomb is a trivia item that requires the budget to be bigger than the revenue. Thus, Emoji Movie is not an example.

      In general terms, Hollywood considers a movie a 'bomb' if it makes less than 3x its budget. That extra 2x accounts for marketing, overhead, the theater cut, etc. Since you noted that it made about 4x it is by definition NOT a bomb.

      A minor clarification: The bomb is avoided after making 2X the budget, not 3X.

      Either way, Emoji Movie is not an example.

      My gold standard for a bomb is Heaven's Gate when it was released. (Long term, it's done a bit better.) A film making back 4x its budget? Not a bomb by site or other standards.
  • 1 Nov 4th, 2017 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 4th Nov, 2017 05:55:48 AM
    hi! i'm finding a old hongkong drama that aired around 2006-2012? i can't remember the title. the plot is about a daughter accidentally killing someone and the mother helped her to cover her crimes and went to jail in her place? rich setting. the girl loved a guy but eventually found someone else(?) the guy raped her sister i think. sister got pregnant and got aids. that's all i remember, anyone knows the title? if i'm not wrong it aired around the same year as moonlight reasonance ?? i'm from singapore and it was aired on channel u. pls help if u know the title and to watch it!! thank you <3 Reply
  • 2 Oct 26th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Oct, 2017 07:58:18 AM
    I'm slowly cleaning up Film.Jumanji Welcome To The Jungle and the YMMV page of entries prematurely judging the movie's tone. However, I need some help with this one:
    • Actionized Sequel. Jump stunts, helicopters, Martha as Ruby Roundhouse aerial backkicking the shit out of some guy on a bike; this has more in common with 2003's The Rundown (another Dwayne Johnson movie) rather than a fantasy adventure the first film was. Possibly justified though as they're inside a video game.
    Not only does it feel too early to assume that Welcome to the Jungle drifts that far away from Jumanji, but it also implies that WTTJ doesn't rely on fantasy, which doesn't seem like the case. Reply

      The last sentence in that entry definitely needs to go since it's a Justifying Edit that violates Examples Are Not Arguable. It also relies on another film for additional context, so I'm all in favor of removing it entirely.

      The referring to another film likely violates the don't refer to another example/page quote/page image/etc. guideline.
  • 3 Oct 26th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Oct, 2017 07:52:09 AM
    The 2017 film under the name "Sleight" lacks a page of any sort. Is it possible for one to be constructed? Reply
  • 1 Oct 25th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th Oct, 2017 12:27:56 PM
    I found an entry for They Changed It, Now It Sucks on the YMMV page for Spider-Man: Homecoming where it talks about how the movie got rid of some Peter's self-sufficient traits. I don't have much of a problem with that, but around the end of the entry it calls Peter a Bourgeois Bohemian and I have no idea if it's using the trope correctly,

    • While fans like the idea of a Spider-Man in a Shared Universe, many don't appreciate how Marvel have placed him more or less as a Heroic Wannabe training to be part of the Avengers, and being a sidekick to Tony Stark who designs his original outfit and gives him a bunch of upgrades. This in effect robs MCU Spider-Man of the very qualities that made him unique when he first came out (an independent teenage superhero who was his own man, who made his own stuff and was not anyone's sidekick). As fans note, the original Spider-Man in the Lee-Ditko era invented his own costume,spider signal, web-shooters and spider tracers whereas here, except for the web-fluid, most of that was handed to him on a silver platter and the central dramatic tension of the film's third part (Peter proving he can be a tough superhero without his gadgets) makes Spider-Man's triumph not so much that of an underdog scrapper pushing above his weight and resourcesnote  but a Bourgeois Bohemian proving he's more bohemian than bourgeois to his mentor, which needless to say is not very relatable to many in the audience.

    I don't think this is a correct usage of Bourgeois Bohemian, as Peter is not upper-class and doesn't display the overt liberal traits that the trope requires. Is this shoehorning? Reply

      Yeah, Bourgeois Bohemian comes out of nowhere in that example. It's also not listed in the work's trope list, and I think that's pretty telling as to its applicability. He's too young, not wealthy enough (IIRC), and as you said he doesn't have overt liberal traits. That portion of the example could probably be cut outright and the entry'd be fine.
  • 1 Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Oct, 2017 02:37:28 PM
    What is the trope, if there is one, for when the Big Bad kills a Red Shirt Minion (one of their own henchmen) for a small reason - if at all - to show how bad they are. I think this differs from the usual Red Shirt trope as the character killed is a bad guy and one of the vilians own. Thanks. Reply
  • 3 Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Oct, 2017 01:14:36 PM
    See the title; there's two of them Reply

      To clarify, they're both titled "Buying youtube subscribers" and written by sujitkumar.

      Please provide links rather than making us search them out ourselves. Zapped and bounced.

      I don't see them. Sounds like they were deleted.
  • 1 Oct 15th, 2017 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Oct, 2017 06:31:36 AM
    The show I'm thinking of is a drama series that I think was on Netflix or Hulu. The only part I can remember is a part of the show that explains that the married cop in the show kidnapped a girl walking home at night from a party and locked her in his basement. The town thinks the girl is missing and during the flashback of that moment it shows I believe an ambulance or something with a guy and a girl in it and they ask the girl if she's okay and she says she's fine I think and they drive off prior to her being kidnapped. I also know towards the end of the series she had a child and escapes. Reply
  • 2 Oct 10th, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 10th Oct, 2017 06:27:37 PM
    Someone put this under the Esoteric Happy Ending page: Star Wars: The Force Awakens: The First Order's Starkiller Base has been destroyed, and Rey has discovered her Force potential along with the location of the now-reclusive Luke Skywalker. But the First Order still used Starkiller Base to annihilate the New Republic's center along with several other planets in the same system beforehand, murdering billions and most likely throwing the Republic into chaos. We'll see how The Last Jedi will address this. Reply
  • 3 Oct 7th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 7th Oct, 2017 03:12:19 PM
    A native american girl is kidnapped from her village. Ends up in France, used as live exhibition. Returns to canada to find that nobody left in her old village Reply
  • 0 Oct 2nd, 2017 at 5:05PM
    The subpages for the Franchise.Marvel Cinematic Universe are kinda....I dunno if clogged is the right word but we have stuff like AntiHero.Marvel Cinematic Universe SupermanStaysOutOfGotham.Marvel Cinematic Universe, ThouShaltNotKill.Marvel Cinematic Universe, CelebrityParadox.Marvel Cinematic Universe and others that seem kinda strange. I know it's gonna keep getting bigger but do we really need lists like that for the whole thing?

    (RealityEnsues.Hulk is another one that I don't think is needed since other examples on the RealityEnsues.Film page are much longer and didn't get their own pages. Reply
  • 1 Sep 30th, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 30th Sep, 2017 05:11:36 PM
    Hi there im looking for a series where people live like in the movie (In Tme), wealthy people live inside the walls and the poor live outside, the rich people like to take beautifull girls from the poor and make them prostitutes inside the wall ,then there is this dude that want his women back, he make fake i.d's and get in the walls looking for his women. I DONT REMEMBER ANYMORE PLZ HELP. Reply