• 1 Nov 17th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 18th Nov, 2017 02:33:10 AM
    Can we have a feature on Ask The Tropers, Wishlist, Trope Finder, You Know That Show, and similar pages that prevents users from posting queries that use UR Ls? I am asking for this because, lately, spammers have been using them to post adverts.

    In each case, the bot account made a query that has a URL in its title. Adding a feature that prevents URL-titled queries from being posted prevents spammers and saves a lot of work in deleting spam queries that would otherwise take up space and distract from actual queries. Reply

      Happens in the forums too
  • 3 Nov 13th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 17th Nov, 2017 11:41:50 AM
    Have a link to You Know That Show in the header of Ask The Tropers. Something along the lines of, "Trying to find a show (or other work) but can't remember the name of it? Ask at You Know That Show" Reply

      Unfortunately, nobody pays attention to the banner that's already there.

      We could put it in flashing 72-point type and everyone would still ignore it.

      What might work better is when someone tries to start a new query, it takes then to a screen that asks them what kind, then the system decides where it should be posted.

      Alternatively, the "YKTS" initialism could be spelled out in the banner to say "You Know That Show..."

      The name implies "This is where you go if you're asking about a show."

      And the same could apply to "Trope Finder." The initialisms probably don't help.

      Ya, that won't work. Removing the "question about Tropes" line on the other hand might do the job.
  • 2 Nov 14th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Nov, 2017 01:05:03 PM
    Could it be possible to cut a "typed as work" page's subpages (e.g. those that share the same title) from the cutlist without adding every page to the cutlist? Maybe just those subpages with a particular page type (e.g. "examples" and "sub-page") in case there's a work that shares a name with a trope in Main/.

    I've lost count of how many times I've stumbled on an orphaned subpage because the troper didn't add it to the cutlist when the parent page was added.

    I also have the same wishlist for redirects to a page added to the cutlist. Reply

      To add to this, I think it would be helpful if the cutlist included the number of pages that share a name (e.g. Wiki.TV Tropes and DrinkingGame.TV Tropes). Just in case a page is not typed correctly for whatever reason.

      I'd like to further clarify this wishlist item. Also, I realize that it sounds more complicated than what could go into 2.0, but I'd at least like to make the suggestion if not for the next update then a later one.

      This idea could be a simple "Tell the cut-masters that there are sub-pages that need cutting." So it isn't too much work on the troper side to dis-incentivize this outright. That is, tropers would have an option to say "Yes, there are sub-pages or redirects that need to be cut." Then they could select from a drop-down menu which pages to include (and only appropriately typed pages would be options, in order to reduce the number of errors etc.). Then when the request is submitted, the software generates a list of those pages and attaches that to the request.

      On the cut-master side of things, they would select — with checkboxes maybe — which pages to cut alongside the parent page. The system could give the following reason for the cut "Sub-page of a cut page [system]" and "Redirect to a cut page [system]" (I'm pretty sure redirects are auto-typed?). Also, if the parent page is itself a sub-page and it isn't appropriate to cut the other sub-pages, then the cut-master can simply not select any other page to cut.

      I'm obviously not familiar with the current cut-master side of the cutlist (e.g. is it by-the-page or by-groups-of-pages or...? idk), but I hope this idea could be useful and helpful.

      Okay, I think that's all I can think of for this idea... I think. Any feedback or response would be appreciated, especially if it doesn't sound feasible because then I'll stop wasting my time lol.
  • 3 Aug 3rd, 2016 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Nov, 2017 01:03:59 AM
    Entries on the New Edits pages vanish after a few days. Due to edits being infrequent on foreign wikis, this makes the languages sections completely pointless, which is a shame, because it is a fairly useful tool. Would it be possible to keep the last ten edits or so regardless of how old they are ? Reply

      Can we get a statement or an update on this ? The language sections of "Recent Changes" going blank after a few days is incredibly discouraging to potential new translators.

      I am not familiar with any request to the admins of this type.

      ...Isn't it the very point of this Wishlist page to request features to the admins ?
  • 1 Nov 8th, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 8th Nov, 2017 07:48:30 AM
    Not much of a wish since I am pretty sure I could just go and do this with only Wrath of Mod to worry about. More a getting consensus / is this a good idea kind of suggestion.

    I was thinking of adding a trope to a work page but realized I couldn't think of a way to phrase it without it being a spoiler. The fact that it only takes effect in the last few chapters and is a notable plot point means that even associating the trope with the work is arguably a spoiler.

    The thought crossed my mind that a good way to work around that would be to allow for a spoiler subpage for works. Then we could list all the plot twist tropes, the death tropes, the all whited out tropes, the self fulfilling spoilers, and everything on spoilered rotten there without accidentally ruining someone's experience with unexpected spoilers. If you go to the spoiler page it is on you for wanting to read spoilers. Reply

      This is a policy question more than a tech question, so deferring this to Wiki Talk.
  • 1 Nov 5th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 7th Nov, 2017 10:06:55 AM
    Restoring the notification near the top of a page that says if there's a Discussion. Reply

      A query like this already exists here. Give it an upvote if you agree with it.
  • 0 Nov 4th, 2017 at 1:01PM
    Make it impossible to make redirects to blank / non-existent pages?

    'Cause I accidentally spawned UsefulNotes.Digital Rights Management going to the non-existent UsefulNotes.DRM... Reply
  • 2 Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 4th Nov, 2017 01:51:43 PM
    On That Other Wiki, when a redirect points you to another redirect, it stops on the second one without redirecting further. This is a useful feature because in addition to catching double redirects (which are discouraged), it also prevents circular redirects from breaking things, since circular redirects are by definition also double redirects. Reply
  • 2 Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 2nd Nov, 2017 04:47:58 AM
    Not a lot of people participate in discussions; sometimes, something posted on a discussion will have a long gap between a response, if there's a response at all. There should be a separate notifier for discussions for pages you follow, like the notifier for someone sending you a PM. Reply

      It's already on our internal wishlist, for a unified notification center.

      You can add Discussion pages to your Watchlist by clicking the star in the "Watch" button on top of the Discussion [age, then when someone posts to it, it shows up on top of your Watch List with a red bullet. That's a pretty good alternative for the notifier, until we have one.
  • 1 Oct 30th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 31st Oct, 2017 08:53:04 AM
    Willing as I am to view ads or pay for them to be hidden, both the current options (whitelisting or buying a removal pass) would constitute supporting Google. I'm NOT willing to do that, especially in light of the recent policy change that some are calling "straight out of Orwell's 1984". Given the choice between the existing options, I think I'll stick to just watching the "#x page you've blocked today" increment as I laugh at the attempt on Google's part. Is there any way I can make a direct donation and, preferably (I'm happy to support the site either way. It's just really annoying), have the anti-adblock thingy hidden?

    tl;dr, love the site, but hate Google and don't want to support them via ad revenue Reply

      Which policy change?

      Not all ads come from Google and the donation money stays with us, we don't use to pay off Google, I believe.
  • 4 Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 31st Oct, 2017 05:59:24 AM
    I know this has been discussed before, but the site could use a shorturl to make sharing on social media more simple—especially Twitter.

    Seeing how the site owns tvropes.wiki, maybe it's possible to use that domain to create them. There are many variants of other ccTLDs that would work like tropes.tv, trtro.ps, and so forth. Reply

      Note: "TVTropes.org/[namespace]/ArticleName" works:

      www.tvtropes.org/Main/DoesNotLikeSpam

      That's a Good Bad Bug, mind you, so it won't necessarily be kept around.

      Interesting idea. We don't have an official domain for such things, and you can always use an existing shortener service like TinyURL. The design proposal for TV Tropes 2.0 includes both a shortening of the basic URLs for articles and the addition of the article ID as a valid URL, but that's a long way off and nothing about it is set in stone.

      tvtrop.es?
  • 6 Oct 12th, 2017 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Oct, 2017 09:45:56 PM
    At the top of the (Wiki) pages are a bunch of useful little buttons. Why is there not a button for Cast & Crew? I envision it divided into two primary folders - one for "Current" and one for "Former" in the case of a film in Development Hell or a band that changes their lineup. Is this something that would be doable? Reply

      What is that button supposed to lead to?

      Creator pages, mostly. It's an alternative to, for example, clicking over to Characters to find out who voiced what, but it also allows for cross-referencing directors of photography, score-writers for films or animations or whatever, and even things like costume design. Example: just about every Warner Bros animation C&C page would have Andrea Romano for her voice casting.

      People might be interested in seeing creator pages for people like her, and - if you gals/guys were interested - would actually provide you a platform to compete with IMDB and draw some traffic from them (+ad revenue).

      Is that really something we need to do, though?

      Need? I mean, nothing -needs- to be done. But there's more to our favorite media than just the director(s) and the VA's. I'd like to be able to look at a movie with beautiful visuals, such as Blade Runner ('82) and see what else the cinematographer did. Del Toro of course directed Pan's Labyrinth, but it was Guillermo Navarro who shot the thing - and he also shot Night at the Museum. In my mind, considering how we cross-reference things here, I think it creates another cool way at looking at these productions. I understand if others might disagree.

      This is more of a "TV Tropes 2.0" thing, where we hope to be able to document the relationships between articles more directly. For example, you could add a relationship like, "X is an actor in Y", and then be able to cross-reference those links automatically. It's a long way out and is not one of our major priorities at the moment.

      From the perspective of the current wiki, "cast and crew" is not our focus. We care about tropes. Let other resources like IMDB handle all of that.

      Understood and thanks for the follow-up!
  • 1 Oct 4th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Oct, 2017 06:42:18 AM
    I’ve been meaning to add some color to my liveblogs’ text, but it never says where to do that in “markup help.” Could you put everything you can do with liveblog markup in there? Thx! Reply

      Color markup is only intended for use in the forums, so it's not documented in the wiki help.
  • 2 Mar 22nd, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Oct, 2017 06:38:36 AM
    This probably isn't high-priority, but I would like the ability to see markup for a forum post like we can for posts in ATT, YKTS, TF, and TLP. It could be a button that replaces the badge shop one. Reply

      Bump

      There's no need to bump posts here, but for the record, it's a feature we've asked for. It's low-priority, though.
  • 2 Oct 22nd, 2017 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Oct, 2017 01:02:23 PM
    I have some ideas for new issue helper messages:
    • Lewdness: The NamespaceGoesHere/TitleGoesHere edit you made sounds very perverse in an unnecessary way. Please read No Lewdness, No Prudishness on why we don't like it.
    • Spam: The NamespaceGoesHere/TitleGoesHere edit you made contains third party advertising for a product. Please keep ads off pages, instead go ask in advertising@proper.io if you can put on the sidebar.
    • Vandalism: The NamespaceGoesHere/TitleGoesHere edit you made is considered Wiki Vandal behavior. If you're only here to vandalise, don't. Just get out, or the mods will bounce you.
    • Wrong language: The NamespaceGoesHere/TitleGoesHere contains words that aren't in English. They're only acceptable if the work has never been translated. Visit TV Tropes Translation Project and the Translations subforum if you want to translate pages to different languages.
    Thank you. Reply

      The first has a message already I think, and the second and third are not dealt with by messages but by instand bans. Fourth seems a bit exotic.

      Not really, there is no message for lewdness. Though there is a message for its exact opposite, bowdlerising.

      Also, the Stub In Main notifier should be deleted, since making new Main pages without TLP is impossible for non-mods.
  • 0 Oct 17th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    On a cut page that was deleted, then recreated, then deleted again, the deletion log only shows the first deletion's cut reason instead of all of them. Reply
  • 9 Jun 22nd, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Oct, 2017 01:39:32 AM
    Can we add a feature to the forums to tell you if someone is currently writing a post? It would be like the edit lock system for wiki pages, although it wouldn't necessarily have to lock other people out of writing a post, it would just let them know that someone else is writing one. It would be a very helpful way to avoid getting ninja'd on the forums. Reply

      What does "ninja'd" mean?

      Ninja'd means when someone was writing, another troper wrote the same thing before them. For instance, troper X is making a reply, and troper Y does too... troper Y finishes writing it before troper X, but troper X didn't know that, as he was still writing.

      O, right. O.P. has a point, and supporting it, in that regard.

      I think this is a pointless change. I also think that such a tool might have difficulty detecting when someone is no longer writing a post, say because they clicked on "addpost" by mistake and then closed the browser tab.

      This would require some form of continual communication stream between the site and each user. Definitely out of scope for our current development goals, but it might be a thing we could consider for the far future.

      You could instead add a "ninja warning" when you try to post that says "X new posts have been made since you started writing this, reading them might be a good idea".

      The Dwarf Fortress forums have this, for example. (Actually, that's the only forum I can think of that has it, for some reason...)

      Something like that would be pretty cool.

      wingedcatgirl's idea is very interesting, and it seems more doable than mine.

      Maybe the fact that it's the only forum that does it means that it's not technically feasible...
  • 1 Oct 12th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 13th Oct, 2017 07:50:31 AM
    When quoting things on the forums, it's hard to remember whether the quote markup is "blockquote" or "quoteblock". Since the other term doesn't have an alternate use it needs to be reserved for, and an outstanding bug is preventing many users from just checking with the convenient help, perhaps just make both of them valid markup? Reply

      I don't think we want to encourage quote usage, really.
  • 1 Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 13th Oct, 2017 03:43:12 AM
    Something that can hopefully clean up the clutter of YKTS, any question that is answered gets tagged "solved". People can then filter if they want solved or unsolved. This way, people can see if their inquiry has been answered and there would be fewer questions to sift through. Reply
  • 0 Sep 30th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    It's kind of annoying when I feel the need to edit a page just to add that horizontal line at the bottom. An easy solution would be to just automatically render it for the reader. Reply
  • 2 Aug 2nd, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 24th Sep, 2017 03:59:32 PM
    I was thinking: "What if separating a page into folders allowed you to open and close folders on an EDIT page?". My point is that some of us would find it useful to be able to edit LONG articles with a lot less scrolling, particularly those who don't know about CTRL+F (CMD+F on Mac) or don't even have access to it. In other words, folder controls would open and close folders in edit mode, and folders themselves could have arrows next to them like with folders on desktops! Reply

      The forthcoming 1.8 design comes with a WYSIWYG editor, which should allow editing with folders collapsed.

      YES!! This would be so fucking useful. Get to it, mods!
  • 0 Sep 18th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Sometimes, I wish there was an option to hide a review from being displayed on my end, so that I personally don't have to see it. I regularly visit the Reviews page, and seeing some reviews I don't like being constantly bumped up to the top of the page can get really tiresome at times. Reply
  • 0 Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    You Up a draft for Grabs. As some drafts fill up, you're not sure which drafts you have grabbed. So, I'm thinking of some sort of highlght or another list or a tag on which drafts you have grabbed. Inspired by this query. Reply
  • 8 Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 4th Sep, 2017 02:21:54 AM
    It would be nice if the button for the discussion page changed in some way to indicate that there's something there Reply

      Having the button display the number of total entries and change color when a new one is added would be great.

      How about using the unread check marks used on the forums? Have it overlay the discussion button in maybe the top-left corner or something.

      I don't know if this belongs on bugs, but discussion pages don't seem to appear in my watchlist, either.

      So... is this idea going anywhere? 17 upvotes seems like a lot.

      There is plenty of other stuff pending, so not quickly at all.

      It could also be considered, if not a bug, then a regression, because I clearly remember the message "This entry has discussion." from the old days...

      What @medinoc said. It must have gotten lost in update translation, but I seriously want it back.

      Bump. I think bringing back "This entry has discussion" would be necessary, and 38 upvotes is quite a lot, isn't it?
  • 0 Sep 2nd, 2017 at 10:10PM
    the Trope Finder stream is very active and I am having trouble locating old requests. Is there a way to generate a list of Trope Finder threads based on being created by self? Can't seem to subscribe like with forum threads.

    When you hit subscribe it subsyou to the Entire trope finder list intead of the thread you are on. Wish Lost seems similar. Reply
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?type=wl