• 0 Dec 16th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    I'm looking for a trope that's similar to, but doesn't quite go as far as Mistreatment-Induced Betrayal. The mistreatment is there, but the character involved never actually switches sides.

    For context, the specific example I'm thinking of is Red Panda Adventures. A side character, the Gray Fox, is a Japanese-Canadian crime fighter. Her initial appearance has her concerned about the growing resentment towards the Japanese in her home town of Vancouver as WWII is ramping up and breaking up a Nazi sabotage ring designed to frame a Japanese spy ring.

    In later mentions and appearances, we learn she's been put into a Japanese internment camp and was released to join a super team the Red Panda was put in charge of.

    She's still willing to be a superhero, if only because it beats the camp. She no longer wants anything to do with Vancouver after all of it, though, and shows zero deference to the Prime Minister, who signed both the order that released her from the camp and the one that put her there. If anything, she only joins because the Red Panda's partner, the Flying Squirrel, is her best friend. Reply
  • 4 Dec 15th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Dec, 2017 08:19:06 AM
    Alice pointedly addresses Bob by his full (lowly) title to remind him exactly where he falls in the hierarchy. Alternately, any pointed use of a name or title to remind someone who or what they are. Example: Bob: Well if you ask me, I think we should do X. Alice: Is that so, Private Bob? Reply
  • 3 Dec 14th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Dec, 2017 08:17:00 AM
    Is there a trope for a fantasy take on Brain Uploading. That trope focuses on brains and computers obviously and seems to be a sci-fi trope but what about instances in fantasy where someone inserts their mind or soul into something with magic. Soul Jar doesn't seem to fit this instance as the page for that says that the individual's body is still around with the soul separated to produce a form of immortality.

    I ask because there are a couple of instances I have come across where someone uses a form of Brain Uploading to insert their soul into something after their death so that they can avoid going to the afterlife and still interact with the world of the living Reply


      Anyone with any ideas?

      Honestly, the difference between a lot of fantasy and sci-fi is purely cosmetic. So if it's a wizard transferring his consciousness into a magic crystal, but plays out the same as a mad scientist transferring his brain into a computer, then you can just add it to the Brain Uploading page.

      Tropes Are Flexible. I agree that it sounds like a reasonable substitution.
  • 1 Dec 16th, 2017 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Dec, 2017 08:04:50 AM
    An important/recurring character who is suspicious that the Masquerade exists and spends all the time that they have on-screen searching for it. However, they are not Agent Mulder because they don't (necessarily) provide a contrast with an Agent Scully and moreover does not believe in every conspiracy/paranormality theory, just this Masquerade; neither are they an Intrepid Reporter because they are not necessarily a reporter and are more likely to be searching for the Masquerade for their own curiosity or because they want to become a part of it. Also, not Hunter of Monsters or because they don't necessarily want to hunt anyone/thing. Close to Vigilante Man, but the character isn't necessarily a manhunter, masked or otherwise. They're more of a private eye, though again they don't have to be of that profession. Reply
  • 2 Dec 14th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Dec, 2017 07:26:08 AM
    Do we have a specific trope for cases like the animated Rambo or Highlander cartoons where Hard-R movies got Bleached Underpants adaptions aimed at kids?

    I know it happened a lot back in the 80s and 90s and there was a whole slew of cartoons based on R-rated movies that were targeted at kids. Reply
  • 1 Dec 16th, 2017 at 4:04AM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Dec, 2017 04:55:08 AM
    What do you call a trope where the protagonist acts like a complete jerk who thinks he/she is right, when in reality, they are actually wrong, but the characters treat them like they are right because of plot? Reply
  • 0 Dec 16th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    So two characters are in a one on one fight with each other. However, they don't actually show the end of the fight. Later, the victor of the fight is shown appearing elsewhere as one of the characters, but it's actually the other character who won the fight and disguised him/herself as his/her opponent after winning. What trope would this be? Reply
  • 3 Dec 15th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 10:53:16 PM
    Do we have a trope for when, in order to make it look more foreboding, an environment looks like it has scary faces in it? Trees with scary faces are the more common variant that comes to mind, but it could also be other things like cave mouths, rocks, walls, etc. Reply
  • 1 Dec 15th, 2017 at 10:10PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 10:51:42 PM
    Do we have a trope for this: Someone plugs a leak, say in a ship, only for another leak to appear; And, plugging any further leaks creates new ones. Reply
  • 5 Dec 3rd, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 08:22:03 PM
    The main characters are fighting for the side of good, to defeat the Big Bad, however to gain the strength they need they have to destroy and take over temples to boost the power of their god. They are viewed as both heroes and villains in the story, doing good and bad deeds, serving the people's ends but also their own at the same time. I don't feel like the Anti-Hero label quite works with the specifics. Reply
  • 0 Dec 15th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Do we have a trope for genetic keys / locks?

    VideoGame.Bioshock: Bathyspheres and Central City Controls are accessed by Genetic Key.

    Literature.Brown Girl In The Ring: The Paramount Eaton Centre, a "megamall" that checks people who are trying to enter, against a set of biocodes in their "data banks", and if your code doesn't match a valid person's, you get an "electric jolt rather than admittance". Reply
  • 2 Nov 29th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 07:18:45 PM
    From time to time I see series where the heroes are on a quest to collect a number of Mac Guffins. Many times they've been pieces of a whole. Other times they're just all necessary items surrounding a central task. It's fairly common in RP Gs and adventure games, with you gathering a collection of talismans or orbs or weapons/armors or some other manner of ancient/sacred/mystic objects. So, is there a trope for this sort of situation or quest to find them all and bring them together? Reply
  • 1 Dec 15th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 07:18:03 PM
    The trope for a child who hates affection. Different from Real Men Hate Affection because it's just as likely to be a girl as to be a boy. Might find affection gross or boring and not understand why adults like it. Reply
  • 3 Dec 14th, 2017 at 10:10PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 06:18:59 PM
    A gag where a low-tech person is given a high-tech replacement for their tools, and they proceed to use it in the same way as the lower-tech tool while complaining about how inefficient it is. For example, dragging a chainsaw back and forth across a log, swinging a lawnmower like a scythe, beating a lighter against a flint, muzzle-loading a machine gun...

  • 1 Dec 15th, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 06:15:16 PM
    The Big Bad's been defeated, the gang is back together, and everyone is partying...except for Bob. Maybe Bob's still in shock that it's over. Maybe despite everyone else recieving their happy ending, Bob still doesn't have closure and feels left in the dust. Maybe he's worried for the future or wonders about the implications of what they did. At this, another character may join them and ask why they're not partying with everybody else, to which Bob will explain. The other character may be at a loss for words, or respond in an attempt to make them feel better. At this point they may convince Bob to join the party, leave him to his musings, or sit with him and watch the others. Reply
  • 1 Dec 15th, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 05:55:46 PM
    Gay Villain

  • 2 Dec 15th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 04:47:40 PM
    Is there a trope for someone having a strong emotional attachment to a character they've actually met? Any kind of emotion: hate, anger, love, friendship, counts. But they have to have had that emotional response before meeting the character, it's not love or hate at first sight. Reply

      There's Love Before First Sight.

      Are there similar tropes for any other emotions? Like someone who hates or conversely idolizes the parent they never met?
  • 2 Dec 15th, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 03:45:23 PM
    What would it be when there's a factual inaccuracy related to cave paintings? I added it to Brother Bear under Artistic License – History but it's not really history. Reply
  • 3 Dec 3rd, 2017 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 01:24:57 PM
    characters are having a conversation about one thing and one of them starts using the topic to talk about something else ex: Liz: Why is everybody judging all of my choices lately? This place is fine. It's convenient. It's consistent. I know what I'm getting. It doesn't make me feel bad about my body. And you know, maybe I'm at an age where it's OK for me to settle for this. Pete: Are we still talking about the sandwich place. Liz: No, sadly I don't think we are. Reply
  • 2 Dec 15th, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 11:54:54 AM
    Basically after the end of an arc, the hero has successfully become the head of his company/country/world/[anything with a power structure].

    But he's either too much of an idiot or too much of a nice guy, so one of his sidekicks (pr possibly all of them) plot behind his back to take the power, WITHOUT MALICE, simply because they deem the hero incapable of making hard choices, like sacrificing a part of the population to save the rest, or doing shady deals to preserve the stability of the country, or even just vecause they don't want the hero to be involved in something bad that's about to happen...

    Basically they just remove the hero from his duties and take the power to protect both the country and the hero, which looks like a huge betrayal but is later revealed to be an extremely loyal decision or for the greater good. Reply

      If it's done via knocking out the hero with a Tap on the Head, that's Percussive Prevention.

      I think you are concatenating two separate tropes.

      Unfit for Greatness is when a hero or other good character doesn't have the chops for ruling.

      I'm not sure if we have one for someone being removed from power for the greater good. Kicked Upstairs is the closest I can think of but that's about being promoted.
  • 1 Dec 13th, 2017 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 11:32:01 AM
    It's like Let Them Die Happy or Your Days Are Numbered or Secretly Dying except the "them" in question lives and we get to see how they react to the other party's attempt at sparing their feelings before the other party did something very bad that will probably cost their relationship or thinks will cost their relationship. Often causes the other party to act O.O.C. Is Serious Business.

    For example:

    In Teen Titans, the plot of Season 4 is that Raven is destined to end the world. The first part of the Season 4 finale takes place on the day this will happen, so Raven doesn't tell the team this because she doesn't want them to worry about her (because she's supposed to die when this happens) or try to stop the apocalypse (they are Determinators, and she believes it's hopeless to fight what's basically Satan), so instead she chooses to live her life to the fullest with them and making sure they have a good day. The team doesn't know why Raven is doing this (she is usually a Grumpy Bear) until the world ends at the end of the episode, but Raven uses the last of her powers to let them live before she dies/goes MIA, wishing them to stay safe. The team knows that Raven is a good person, so her attempt at trying to Let Them Die Happy only encourages them to fight in memory of Raven.

    In the first season finale of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated, a season-spanning arc is what Fred's father, Mayor Jones, is up to. We learn that besides being a neglectful sociopath, he's involved in the Myth Arc and is Ambiguously Evil. By the season finale, he's paranoid that he'll be found out soon, so at the beginning of the episode, he apologizes to Fred for being mean and tells him that he loves him. The episode ends with not only revealing that Mayor Jones is after the MacGuffin, but also that he's not Fred's real father; he's Fred's kidnapper, having abducted him from his real parents as a hostage. Mayor Jones was scared that he would lose his son's love and trust (he had come to genuinely love Fred), especially because Fred was actively trying to search for the truth about his father himself. Fred and Mayor Jones end up becoming estranged, with Fred not wanting anything to do with Mayor Jones and we don't get to see Mayor Jones' response in the aftermath of the season finale (other than he implicitly still wants Fred back and he's still a selfish jerk).

    In Episode 26 of the Pokémon Sun & Moon anime, Sophocles learns at the beginning of the episode that he and his family are moving. Because this means that he'll have to tearfully bid farewell to his friends at school if he tells them, he initially doesn't tell his classmates that he's moving and instead acts like it's a normal school day. At the end of the day, he gives in and confesses. The next day, his classmates decide to give him the best day ever before he moves away the day after that. It turns out that Sophocles' family is just moving to a bigger house in the neighborhood. It's like Last Day to Live (it probably is?), except Sophocles doesn't die or anything. Reply
  • 4 Dec 14th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 11:26:31 AM
    So I am looking to see if there is a trope based on a scene I saw in a couple of video games where the hero has defeated and knocked down a seeming enemy (such as when said enemy is a friend/ally trying to help you though they did it in the wrong way), and they are about to finish off/kill said enemy/ally when another character comes in and tries to stop them from killing them by saying they are actually on their side or that if they kill them then they are no better than the enemy/ally. One example is Mr Ribbs from Grabbed By The Ghoulies he nicks an egg you have found that is to be taken to Ma Soupswill, and you/Cooper chase him through the mansion and eventually into the kitchen when Cooper manages to engage and defeat Mr Ribbs in battle and gets the egg back but enraged by being harrassed by and having to chase Mr Ribbs, Cooper punches Mr Ribbs in the face knocking him down and is about to finish him off when Ma Soupswill comes in and stops Cooper by explaining that Mr Ribbs is her assistant and that she asked Mr Ribbs to help Cooper by getting the egg. Anybody know if thats a thing, oh and heres a video link to show what Im talking about go to 35:38 of the video to see the exact part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9-OISadXto Reply
  • 2 Dec 15th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 09:26:43 AM
    In an office, new employee Bob joins the team, alongside Alice, Carol, Grace, Mallory and Ted. Bob is aged 25, with Alice being 40, Carol being 22, Grace is 21, Mallory is 38 and Ted is 54.

    However, although Bob is young (physically), he manages to have a witty sort of conversation similar to The Intern and he sounds more like someone in their 50s or 60s, even though he's only 25. Grace and Carol ridicule him, and Alice doesn't know what to think.

    Grace also has an obsession with looking like Wrestling.Emma (the wrestler) and has been fired and re-hired, 6 times over the past year over her dress code, until the boss gave in and decided to allow her to Bare Her Midriff.

    Bob isn't Really 700 Years Old, the setting is a drama like Better Call Saul (so no supernatural or Sci-Fi tropes could be used), but what tropes would fit Bob, and also for Grace and Carol as well? Reply

      First of all, you've got too many different things here: Grace's fashion tastes and clashes with her boss over the workplace dress code don't really have anything to do with Bob.

      Aside from that, there's Wise Beyond Their Years, but that's mostly for children or teenagers, not adults. What exactly does "he's 25 but sounds like he's in his 50s" mean? Does he have a lot of experiences most people his age lack? Is his taste in music and fashion a quarter-century behind his peers?

      As it is, I'm not really seeing anything particularly tropeworthy about Bob based on your description.

      From what I can gather, is it Most Writers Are Adults or Acting Your Intellectual Age? Doesn't look like Wise Beyond Their Years.
  • 5 Dec 14th, 2017 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 09:24:37 AM
    Do we have a trope for when the protagonist gets some sort of warning telling them to mind their own business (e.g. untraceable text/phone call, note, etc)?

    The nearest I could find was The Villain Knows Where You Live, but that isn't quite what I'm after (since the important part is "being told not to continue by some unknown party") rather than specifically the implied threat. Reply

      Window Pain is one way of saying it.

      Implied Death Threat might cover it?

      Nope, it doesn't need to be an implied or a death threat (it can be an overt threat, not have any threat). "There isn't much point in wasting your time with this investigation" would still fit the spirit of the trope.

      Last Chance to Quit?

      Still not quite what I'm after (that's usually towards the end of the work and delivered in person after the hero confronts the villain, and these sorts of threats tends to be end-of-the-first-act sort of things).
  • 1 Dec 15th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Dec, 2017 08:21:22 AM
    I'm looking for the best trope that fits hippopotamuses being used in the place of horses. I know there's Horse of a Different Color but since the trope discription talks so much about fantasy/alternate world creatures which can be used in place of horses, I am not sure it fits, since the work in question is an Alternate History set in the 1800s without any magic rather than a "proper" fantasy world. Any ideas, anyone? Reply

      It still fits if they're used as horses, especially if it doesn't go into detail on how hippos would make plausible/practical replacements for horses.

      What work is this?