• 0 Feb 21st, 2017 at 3:03AM
    What's the opposite of Marathon Level? Reply
  • 0 Feb 21st, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Is there a trope for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_diving information diving].

    I know that Dumpster Dive is its own trope, but is there a trope for this type of information retrieval or not?

    I'm asking before I open a Trope Launch Pad page. Reply
  • 0 Feb 20th, 2017 at 11:11PM
    So is there a trope where some variant of this occurs:

    Alice: "Who agrees?"

    Bob: *raises hand*

    Alice: *shoots Bob* "Anyone else?"

    It feels like a trope. I just can't find it. Reply
  • 0 Feb 20th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Do we have a trope that covers straight ageism - the attitude that such-and-such a character shouldn't be doing something (going into battle, falling in love with somebody 30 years younger, starting a new job) because of their age? This is a trope that could be applied both within shows, as well as in real-world reactions to shows. Reply
  • 1 Feb 20th, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Live Action TV
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 07:49:45 PM
    We have Ascended Fanon and Real Life Writes the Plot for when fan theories became/are confirmed as canonical/outside events force a change in the production of the work. Do we have a trope for a minor version of these? For context the example I have is from the Batman 60s television series. When the first season began airing a car safety organisation contacted the producers to complain that Batman and Robin were jumping into the Batmobile and driving off without fastening any safety belts - this was before seat belts were compulsory to wear if fitted - and thus setting a bad example. After a bit of toing and froing (the producers suggested the reason was the Batmobile had advanced safety features rendering seatbelts unnecessary but the organisation wasn't having it) the producers acquiesced to the organisations complaints and shot a short closeup sequence of the actors fastening lap belts and inserted it into every subsequent sequence where a character jumped into the Batmobile but before they drove it off - the organisation was so grateful for the most popular television show of the time endorsing seat belt use they presented the show with a prestigious safety award.

    As it's not a fan theory, Ascended Fanon doesn't seem to fit and as it has no real impact on the actual story or production Real Life Writes the Plot doesn't seem right either. Any suggestions? Thanks. Reply
  • 0 Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Western Animation
    So, in the Star Wars: The Clone Wars episode "Mystery of a Thousand Moons", there's a prototype superweapon the Separatists installed in the moons of Iego that destroys any ship that leaves. The residents of the planet have come to believe that it's a curse laid down by a demon. What trope would that be? Reply
  • 4 Feb 20th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Live Action TV
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 05:19:04 PM
    There's the Disposable Sex Worker trope but is there the opposite trope? Like an innocent prostitute bystander?

    When a guy surprises his target in bed with a couple prostitutes and let's them walk out. There's an unspoken agreement that the prostitutes have no loyalty to their customer so won't attack the guy when his guard is down and they get out alive because the guy only cares about his target or information from his target.

    Sorry I can't think of a specific example right now but I know i've seen it in movie and tv shows set in the 80s and 90s?

    :edited for formatting Reply

      Sounds like a straight inversion of Disposable Sex Worker, to be honest.

      I guess an example would be Clarence Boddickers "bitches - leave!" comment before he kneecaps Bob Morton and leaves a primed grenade on the table which he can't reach in time or get far enough away from before it explodes, killing him in Robocop

      Actually, I don't think it is an inversion of Disposable Sex Workers (except, perhaps, by accident). At most, it's a not-tropeworthy aversion. I don't think it's any different from, say, going after a guy in a restaurant, but sparing the waiters. (Except, Darker and Sexier.) Or, if it's a mob restaurant, and the waiters are mooks, sparing the random diners by not simply blowing the whole place up. Some sort of precision trope...

      Never Hurt an Innocent or one of it's sub tropes?
  • 3 Feb 19th, 2017 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 05:05:10 PM
    What's the trope where someone gives a tactful, diplomatic message, only for the narrator or on-duty snarker to decode the real meaning?

    In Animorphs, Jake gives a carefully measured speech to the aliens who were about to blow up the Earth, with Marco helpfully translating what he means for the reader.

    Doesn't have to be from a Tactful Translation either, could be something like a White Lie made to save face ("The senator isn't in right now"->"the senator has a massive hangover and still hasn't gotten the glitter and cat food out of his hair."). Reply

      That might just be Genre Savvy.

      Seems like an inversion of Tactful Translation.

      Aargh, it is most definitely not Genre Savvy! We are in the midst of a huge cleanup of exactly this sort of misuse of that trope! Genre Savvy is about knowing "how this sort of story usually goes". Emphasis on story! Knowing how the universe you live in works (even if that universe works by what the rest of us outside that universe would call genre conventions) is not an example.
  • 3 Feb 20th, 2017 at 4:04AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 04:53:20 PM
    Is there a trope for a character in a tabletop wargame that stays as a background character for a long time before becoming playable? I'm thinking about Promoted to Playable, but it only seems to apply to video game characters. Reply

      Ascended Extra, perhaps?

      Not really applicable in this case, since the characters in question were already among the most important ones in the setting even before they became playable.

      I think it should be Promoted to Playable. If the current definition explicitly excludes such cases, then it might need some repair. Because it's basically the same thing, except with a non-mechanical gamemaster. NPCs are NPCs, even in tabletop games.
  • 2 Feb 20th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 01:54:30 PM
    A character is The Ace, but his/her only purpose on the show is to highlight the Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist's failings (and the UCP all too aware of it).The UCP may even devote time and effort towards proving the Ace is just as lazy/greedy/mediocre as the rest of them, and fail dismally.

  • 3 Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 12:45:59 PM
    This is what I thought "Asshole Victim" was originally. A character who, once saved from something, blames the savior for what happened, and claims that they did it. Could anyone help me find this? Thanks!

    -RU =) Reply
  • 1 Feb 20th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 11:45:56 AM
    a "black hair + sailor uniform + katana" mysterious girl Reply
  • 1 Feb 20th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 11:43:57 AM
    Like i'm trying to make this into a trope when a person "changes" someone's mind with quarters and/or pennies but I'm wondering does that trope exist either in another form because I won't bother Reply
  • 2 Feb 20th, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 11:41:06 AM
    What's that trope where someone deliberately mumbles something insulting under their breath, so the target of the insult hears something and asks for clarification?

    Is that a trope? Reply

      No, that's usually just a general act instead of a story device. Like rolling your eyes to show snarkiness when someone speaks.

      We have I Heard That but that's a stockphrase and should probably be removed.
  • 2 Feb 20th, 2017 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 10:04:08 AM
    A naming convention where people of a country/subtypes of a species all use the same suffix.

    In Asterix the Gauls have names ending in -ix (Romans in -us, Britons in -ax, Egyptians in -is, Greeks in -os...), Starcraft's Zerg use -lisk for some of their units while Warhammer 40K's Tyranids use -gaunt. Reply
  • 0 Feb 20th, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Does Superman Stays out of Gotham include the insular nature of many fictional cities like Gotham (and Metropolis)? In these cities, everything seems to go through the mayor. There are apparently no state or federal issues to consider; the city can make whatever laws it likes. If the city is experiencing an extreme crime wave, there is no chance of outside assistance: the residents of the city are on their own. Residents also apparently only watch local news channels or read local newspapers, which provide everything they need. People also largely seem intent on staying where they are. For example, supervillains seem to insist on taking over Gotham and not some other city, perhaps out of some kind of bizarre civic pride. In short, people treat the city more like a whole country. Reply
  • 0 Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:06AM
    A guy shows up in the hospital with a gun shot. He is treated, but the issue has to be reported. Reply
  • 1 Feb 19th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Feb, 2017 01:51:16 AM
    Is there just a general trope for a character killing their own husband/wife, for any reason? Can the "Til Murder Do Us Part" trope fit for this, or does that specifically involve an evil plot with malice aforethought? I'm thinking of an extremely specific example where the husband is in a coma and the wife wakes him up with magic powers to get information out of him, but the side-effects of the magic end up killing him (whether or not the wife knew/cared this would happen is unknown). Reply
  • 2 Feb 19th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 10:16:38 PM
    In the Star Wars: The Clone Wars episode "Bounty", Asajj Ventress is asked by a group of bounty hunters where she got her lightsabers, and she says she stole them because she doesn't want to spill her backstory. Is there a trope for this? Reply
  • 1 Feb 19th, 2017 at 10:10PM
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 10:13:03 PM
    Is there a trope for when a character ends a relationship with one person only to get with someone who is exactly the same? Reply
  • 1 Feb 18th, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 07:54:55 PM
    Like another intelligent species living in the same world as humans live in, and humans and the other species are prejudice against each other. Examples would be humans and aliens from District 9, humans and Faunus from RWBY, humans and monsters from Undertale, etc Reply
  • 6 Feb 19th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 07:08:14 PM
    This trope appears similarly in a Conan story (one of the first) and in Miami Vice, Duty and Honor. Suddenly the point of view is taken from a "good guy" to the villain of the story, who appears to be in good terms with the "good guy". It surely has a name. Duty and Honor contains the Enemy Mine trope, but is there a name for the twist in the end: only in the end we get to know that Castillo's Vietnamese friend is actually an enemy in disguise, namely originally from North Vietnam and has been working for that government all along? Reply

      The ending trope sounds like Evil All Along.

      There is more: first the "good guy" is presented talking about the threat of the bad guy and then he is shown to meet with the bad guy.

      What's the reason for the good guy to team up with the to-be-revealed bad guy?

      Ah yes, the "good guy" isn't good at all and he's using the bad guy as his tool. The bad guy is the main antagonist of the hero, too.

      You could start with The Mole.

      Quite possibly Big Bad Friend too, and The Man Behind the Man if he's successful in using the main villain as his pawn.
  • 4 Feb 16th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 05:50:29 PM
    What trope(s) would go great with this example from Bob's Burgers.

    • In Season 5 "Work Hard or Die Trying Girl", when Tina chooses to perform in Courtney's play, a musical adaptation of Working Girl, instead of Gene's play, she explains that Jimmy Jr. is in the play as Jack Trainer and she wants to get together with him, despite her playing Katharine Parker. Gene immediately points out a huge problem with her plan with Courtney and Doug backing him up:
      Gene: But your characters don't even end up together.
      Tina: We're all allowed to interpret the movie differently.
      Courtney: No, they definitely don't end up together.
      Tina: Eh, to each his own.
      Doug: No, they really don't.
      Tina: Well, comme ci comme ça.
      Doug: All right, well, now you're just saying words.
      Tina: C'est la vie.

      The last three lines are Gratuitious Foreign Language, but I suspect you're really asking about the whole "insisting that the plot can be rewritten to suit Tina". That one is several tropes at once:

      Tina is trying to invoke Romance on the Set; Doug, Courtney and Gene are trying to tell Tina that her plan is Doomed by Canon. Tina is also leaning hard on Death of the Author, the premise that everyone's interpretation oif a work is equally valid.

      Isn't she calling for an Adaptational Alternate Ending?

      She's doing that too, yes.

      These tropes are perfect. Thank you.
  • 0 Feb 19th, 2017 at 4:04PM
    What's the name of that trope where there's a fateful encounter? Like a character meets someone and something that the person does in the meeting or the role they will play in the character's life drastically changes the path their life takes. Reply
  • 1 Feb 19th, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 04:10:11 PM
    bishounen in anime Reply