• 5 Jul 22nd, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 23rd Jul, 2017 10:31:46 PM
    Character is unimpressed by something genuinely breathtaking because he doesn't know it's not supposed to happen that way.

    For example, {{Astérix}} has a potion that makes acorns grow into fully mature oak trees in a few seconds. Obélix doesn't see what's so impressive about that, as he doesn't know how fast trees are supposed to grow. Reply
  • 0 Jul 23rd, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Is there a trope for when the Hero in some form or fashion plays the role of the Dragon, whether he is tricked into doing so or needs the Big Bad to live for some purpose? Reply
  • 1 Jul 21st, 2017 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 23rd Jul, 2017 05:38:06 PM
    I was wondering if there was an Anger Trope of the classic 'angry painting', when an artist gets angry or upset they paint by just making massive swipes of paint at the canvas. Reply

      I think there might be a broader trope that's just any painting done like that because the artist is angry or excited or...
  • 1 Jul 23rd, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 23rd Jul, 2017 05:31:54 PM
    Is there a trope for the thing where someone trying to do a psychic thing scrunches their eyes closed and touches their temples with their fingers? Reply
  • 1 Jul 23rd, 2017 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 23rd Jul, 2017 01:27:26 PM
    The Moral: There is no moral. (I know at least a whopping 2 examples offhand, but it sounds VERY common.) But what is this? A meta subverted Aesop? Reply
  • 5 Apr 8th, 2017 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 23rd Jul, 2017 11:36:35 AM
    I'm looking at Friendly Fire Index and, for some reason, I'm not seeing a trope for regular friendly fires. (talking about accidental teammate/bystander/hostage shooting, or punching, or the like)

    What is the trope then? Reply

      It sounds like Friend or Foe, where a person accidentally attacks their ally because they mistook them for an enemy.

      If, say, A attacks B, B dodges, A hits his friend C instead, what is the trope? A certainly isn't mistaking C as B.

      Murder by Mistake or Deadly Dodging if they live

      I tried to ask about this and possibly create a trope. I called it just "aim for an opponent, hit an ally". People provided lots of examples but ultimately it was never launched. I think the reason was it was considered too much like "Friendly Fire". What I meant was what you said: the kind of thing that happens in The Great Dictator where Hannah is clobbering the stormtroopers with her frying pan, but accidentally hits the barber.

      Friendly Fire
  • 0 Jul 22nd, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Hey everyone! Is there a trope name for the type of scene where one of the main characters sees the person they love with another person? And then they just look kinda brokenhearted because they realize they don't matter to the other person as much as that person matters to them? (Relationship status between the main character and the love interest doesn't matter, they can just be crushing, have a mutual attraction, or be in an actual relationship).

    Thanks! Reply
  • 2 Jul 19th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Jul, 2017 06:32:37 PM
    Consider the hypothetical scenario where there a character approaches a group and convinces them to allow him to join their ranks, only to eventually betray their trust either by literally backstabbing them, or breaking one or more of the group's taboos in the course of (ab)using his membership to fulfill a self-serving agenda.

    Example: Sauron in The Silmarillion tricked the Elvish smiths of Eregion with his benign-seeming guise of Annatar, allowing him to use them to forge sixteen Rings of Power, which he planned to give to chosen powerful leaders of the Elves so that he may take control over them with the One Ring... and when that failed, he gave nine of them to Men (who eventually succumbed to his corrupt influence and became the dreaded Nazgul) and Dwarves (who failed to truly succumb, but had their greed magnified, which would led to numerous internal conflicts). He then pulls off a similar stunt when the Men of Numenor prove too much for him to defeat with military force, by allowing himself to be captured and then using his silver tongue to worm his way into King Ar-Pharazon's good graces to the point of becoming his advisor, allowing to eventually corrupt Numenor into worshipping Morgoth and even attempting to attack Valinor (which was promptly foiled by Eru directly causing Numenor to sink into the sea).

    Do we have an applicable trope to this form of treachery? Reply
  • 1 Jul 22nd, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Jul, 2017 05:49:19 PM
    Is there a trope where a kid might get punished for doing something at school, for instance, and the parent believes the child is innocent and so goes to the school to yell at the teacher or headmaster, despite the child actually being guilty the whole time? Reply
  • 3 Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Jul, 2017 04:04:15 PM
    Is there a trope that covers a friendship between someone who is rich and the other poor or is part of the working class. Reply
  • 0 Jul 22nd, 2017 at 2:02PM
    A character who tends to lecture others on their behavior or is particularly insistent that everyone act a certain way is easily assumed in- and out-of-universe to have considerably more indulgence for his own failings, until it's revealed he really does hold himself to the same moral standard he tries to impose on others.

    For example, a priest opposing the heroes regularly speaks out against prostitution. The heroes follow him, see him going into a brothel and figure they can blackmail him into cooperation... but they see he's actually there to try to get the girls to abandon their life of sin via fire-and-brimstone sermons.

    A building manager who's slow to bring his five-story building up to code regarding handicap-access, as he regards it as unnecessary when there are perfectly good stairs already. One day he breaks his leg, and everyone expects the building to get an elevator very soon... but no, it turns out the manager is perfectly willing to climb five stories of stairs on crutches as proof that the building doesn't need one. Reply
  • 0 Jul 22nd, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Is there a trope for people avoiding an area because of some (supernatural?) reason? Weirdness Censor doesn't seem to fit 'cause it's not directly being used to hide weirdness?

    Also not a Perception Filter, 'cause no perceptions are altered?

    Examples:

    The Unexplored Summon://Blood-Sign has Sacred Spaces, where who enter immediately want to leave, and people also want to stay away and leave those places unexplored.

    A Certain Magical Index: People-Dispelling Fields, which are made by magic to make people avoid areas where magical battles happen. Reply
  • 1 Jul 21st, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Jul, 2017 08:03:59 AM
    Is there a trope where the audience is Wrong Genre Savvy? For example, a crime is committed in a comic strip, and the readers start analyzing each day's strip for clues ... but the cartoonist isn't writing the story as a mystery with clues, but rather just portraying the characters' reaction to the crime and how it affects their relationships with each other. (Inspired by a plotline in Luann.) Reply
  • 1 Jul 21st, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Jul, 2017 02:27:21 AM
    Which is the trope for a character that goes great lengths to promote a cause and make everyone aware of it, to the point of trying with outlandish stunts, Large Ham scenes and impertinent salesman tricks?

    PD: There's no free beer Reply

      Your self-demonstration is Clickbait. Dunno about the offline version of it.
  • 5 Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Jul, 2017 01:31:51 AM
    Do we have any trope in which the theme of the whole thing is kind of foreshadowed or at least hinted by the class the protagonist is having? Reply

      Chekhov's Lecture?

      Or just Foreshadowing. It's a broad trope.

      I was actually meaning something that is not necessary for the plot as the Chekhov Lecture, just that the class is theme related... Characters in a class can't just be having a lecture about something random, so even if they don't ever realize it was related to their story, it'll be.

      As an example, in "Before I Fall" the main character is living the same day over and over (Groundhogdayishly) and the teacher talks about Sisyphus which had to roll the same rock up a hill again and again.

      Reminds me of Plot Parallel.

      Chekhov's Classroom ?
  • 0 Jul 22nd, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Is there a page for when a character tries out, out loud and usually to themselves, different ways to say something? Like, "You wanna get married? HONEY, will YOU marry me? Dear, I wanted to ask if...no, that's no good. I love you, will you marry me? Got it!"

    An example is in an early Simpsons episode, when Homer stops in his front yard and tries different ways to apologize for coming home so late from Moe's bar and then he gives up and drives away. Reply
  • 2 Jul 20th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 21st Jul, 2017 05:17:19 PM
    What's the trope for when a beam fired off has rings around it to give the impression of extra oomph? As seen here Reply
  • 2 Jul 19th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 21st Jul, 2017 04:57:56 PM
    When I saw Cutting the Electronic Leash in another work's example list, I thought that the "leash" in question was an actual electronic leash, like a shock collar (but without the zap). Now that I've read it and realized I'm wrong (CtEL involves throwing away one's phone), I'm looking for a trope that's closer to what I though of, where the "leash" is not a physical leash, but a mutual understanding that binds two characters together, with the metaphorical leash being "cut" by having the dominant one say something to the other that implies that they are unneeded, or are momentarily unrestricted in their actions (in a benevolent way, of course). For example:
    • Servitude:
      • Formation: Alice does something that aids Bob in a significant way, and then offers to serve under him until her debt is repaid.
      • Temporary Release: Bob pulls a "Let's Split Up, Gang" that forces them to be separated for a short time.
      • Freeing: Bob explains that Alice's debt has been paid and she no longer needs to serve him. note 
    • Ownership:
      • Formation: Alice is a young catgirl that Bob had raised since she was only a few years old.
      • Temporary Release: Bob allows Alice to run out onto a beach to play with the human children that are there.
      • Freeing: Alice is old enough that she doesn't need Bob's help anymore.
    • Fetch Quest:
      • Formation: Alice needs Bob's help to reach a specific area, but can't get there due to varying hazards (Bethesda, anyone?).
      • Temporary Release: Bob needs to go into an area that doesn't allow followers.
      • Freeing: Bob reaches Alice's destination and allows her to accomplish her own objective.
    I understand that what I want is rather specific, and so wouldn't be unhappy if there was no trope that fit the bill. But, this being TV Tropes means that anyone with enough skill could easily rectify that issue. Reply
  • 3 Jul 21st, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 21st Jul, 2017 03:26:42 PM
    Is there a trope about creators who feel they don't need to put their best effort into their work because said work is aimed at children, and the creators feel that children will accept anything? If not, I'm going to make it one. Reply

      They Just Didn't Care.

      Mmm idk because that trope talks about a specific work, while the trope I'm thinking of could apply to a creator's attitude in general. Also, Creator's Apathy requires quotes for real life examples, while the trope I'm thinking of would be ymmv.

      Related to the Animation Age Ghetto.
  • 0 Jul 21st, 2017 at 2:02PM
    An (albeit somewhat silly) example of this that springs to mind from Batman: The Brave and the Bold, when Martian Manhunter and the other Justice League heroes force Batman to rest after he broke his leg. Another example I can think of is in Kids Next Door in that one episode where the KND kinda force Numbuh One to get some sleep and all do their best not to make too much noise and wake him up. The examples I listed were all kinda silly but this can show up in more serious works too. Is there a trope for this? When a character is forced to take a break even though they desperately want to keep working/fighting/whatever? And what would you call characters with such self-destructive tendencies? And help would be much appreciated! Reply
  • 0 Jul 21st, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Is there a trope that has the concept of a lifeline as used in gameshows? 'Cause there's 5 wicks for such a trope by that name, but no such trope exists. All things that use that name in the wiki are Video Games.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/Lifeline

    Basically a way to save yourself from something, in a Game Show:

    Series/Shafted: The shift, which allows passing off a question to someone else. Reply
  • 3 Jul 17th, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 21st Jul, 2017 02:01:37 PM
    When someone short on money donated way too much, like in the Simpsons where Homer bought Marge's necklace and a car in his teens or the plot of Starbuck, where the main character is the father of 533 children because he paid a trip in Greece to his whole family with the money from the clinic Reply

      bump

      bump

      Can this be generalized? Maybe that'll find the Super Trope...
  • 1 Jul 21st, 2017 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 21st Jul, 2017 06:23:17 AM
    Is there a trope for where a character regenerates into a new form but retains existing memories and gains a new personality, like Doctor Who does?. This is from the Watsonian side of Watsonian Vs Doylist explanations (an In-Universe reason, not Real Life Writes the Plot).

    Checking before I make a TLP about this. Reply
  • 1 Jul 20th, 2017 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Jul, 2017 09:02:27 PM
    In my opinion, an Aesop for Superhero Movies: You cannot rely on one person to clean a whole city/world.

    It is a Crapsack World, run by gangsters, police are corrupt or useless. In order to rid the world of the evil that runs, a hero steps in. It starts to shed some light on the world, but it also makes it worse, because people start doing less to help, and just start leaving him to do all the work. It's not until the hero is killed or incapacitated that they realize they should have done their part, and may even start to rise against the evil.

    Inspired by the lyrics of the song in "Seven Wise Dwarfs".

    Examples:

    In "The Dark Knight Saga":
    • In Batman Begins, Rachel tells Bruce that everyone relied his parents to clean up Gotham, and after their murder, no one did anything.
    • In The Dark Knight, After Harvey Dent pulls his Face–Heel Turn, the heroes fear that people will lose hope altogether.
    • In The Dark Knight Rises, After the truth of Harvey Dent is revealed, and Batman is seemingly killed, Gotham does indeed plunge into chaos. It is not until the near end that the city eventually starts to fight back.
      • In my opinion, it's these things that should have provoked the people to do their part.

    Also, an episode of The Powerpuff Girls in which the PPG get so fed up of being called to do EVERYTHING (open a jar of pickles, pass the TV remote, walk the dog, change a flat tire, etc., etc.) that they decide to go on strike, leaving the townsfolk to fend for themselves against a monster attack. Reply
  • 2 Jul 20th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 20th Jul, 2017 07:19:16 PM
    Usually Played for Laughs, this is when the narrator describes something a character is doing, and then the character repeats what the narrator said with more or less the exact same wording. Do we have this? Reply
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