• 3 Dec 23rd, 2010 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 30th Dec, 2010 05:04:00 PM
    What is it called when someone is very arrogant and thinks that he's better than anyone else? Reply
  • 1 Dec 24th, 2010 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Dec, 2010 11:03:13 PM
    you know how in the final fantasy games, at least the old ones, the characters bounce up and down on endless loop when you're not causing them to move? what is that called? is there a trope for it? Reply
  • 1 Dec 26th, 2010 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 02:00:09 AM
    There a trope for vomit being used as a weapon? Since we already have Fartillery... Reply
  • 1 Dec 26th, 2010 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Dec, 2010 05:56:19 PM
    Victim is being stalked by monster/killer/ancient and terrifying evil, who is hiding in the shadows or somesuch. Just when they think they're safe, monster leaps out. Victim starts screaming and then...the monster/killer/ancient and terrifying evil starts screaming or roaring too. Also often played for comedy, as in the end of Scary Movie 2 or with Doctor Rockso in Metalocalypse. Is there a trope for this? Reply
  • 5 Dec 26th, 2010 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 10:02:53 AM
    Is there a trope where a character believes that everything around him is fake? A certain variation includes someone who never believes anything on TV or the internet must be fabricated just because it can be staged or photoshopped. This person isn't paranoid, but rather just believes nothing around him is fabricated and jaded because of it. Reply
  • 4 Dec 27th, 2010 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 30th Jan, 2011 11:38:23 PM
    Is there a trope for when a character who's a writer puts poorly-disguised versions of people they know in their fiction, thereby pissing them off because it's an unflattering portrayal and/or includes the airing of dirty laundry? Reply

      Write Who You Know?

      If they're doing it intentionally to make someone look bad it could fall under TheWarOnStraw.

      Roman Clef, if you decide to make the portrayals unflattering.

      Oh wait, it has to happen in-universe? Hmmm... Well, Roman Clef seems like it's more about works, but it contains a couple of examples of the kind of plot you're describing (NCIS, Voyager). They seem out of place, though.
  • 1 Dec 27th, 2010 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Dec, 2010 01:26:07 PM
    Is there a trope where the wizard is The Fool Reply
  • 3 Dec 27th, 2010 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 06:35:45 PM
    My wifey and I have a name for sequels that are BAD, but would have been adequate, or even GOOD if it weren't connected to the obviously superior previous installments. We call it "Godfather 3 Syndrome".

    Many people agree that the Godfather Part III was the worst of the sequels. Some even go so far as to pronounce it so bad it's horrible. But most people I speak to agree that the film would have actually made a decent movie if it were just a random Mafia flick about an retired Don attempting to go straight. If the lead wasn't actually Al Pacino, playing Michael Corleone, it would have been a great movie. But it suffered by comparison.

    Is there a trope for this? My lovely spouse and I use this term now to apply to everything. "That was probably a decent restaurant, but since it's a franchise of [Fancy Restaurant Chain] it just suffers from Godfather 3 Syndrome...". "That would have been a better show if it wasn't an Aaron Sorkin project. I guess I just expected better". It's LIKE Sequelitis, except that the sequel is actually GOOD, just not as good as what's come before.

    I'd add it to YKTTW, but I'm not sure if Godfather 3 Syndrome is a clear name for it. Or what you'd even call it if not Godfather 3 Syndrome. [shrugs] Reply

      Sequelitis?

      From your statement "That was probably a decent restaurant, but since it's a franchise of [Fancy Restaurant Chain] it just suffers from Godfather 3 Syndrome..." It sounds like Unpleasable Fanbase or any other kind of Fan Dumb.

      It's similar to Sequelitis, but it's not that the movie was "worse than the original", it's that it's a decent film, just not worthy of the franchise. If it'd never been connected to the franchise at all, people would be loving it. It's like the extreme opposite of Better by a Different Name: It's "Better if it had never been known by any name at all" :)

      I just read the description for Contested Sequel, and that seems to come closest.

      Oddball in the Series?
  • 3 Dec 27th, 2010 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 01:56:32 AM
    Any tropes for people who try to scratch things (Usually female) and end up ripping their nails off? Reply
  • 3 Dec 27th, 2010 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 02:00:50 PM
    Projectrho said "If you want to do the job right, work backwards. Decide what type of universe you want for your book, figure out what implications it must have, then figure what constraints on the FTL will create the desired implications. Finally add a bit of colorful technobabble to describe the cause.

    If you want to explore uncharted terrain, work forwards. Create a few unusual constraints, spend some time deducing some implications from the constraints, and see what sort of SF universe flows from the implications. You might stumble over an interesting universe for your next novel and/or game." Is there a trope for the second one where someone makes the rules for their setting, then works out what the setting is like? Reply
  • 4 Dec 27th, 2010 at 6:06PM
    Live Action TV
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 12:02:24 PM
    Okay, so I *know* this has got to be a trope. Somewhere.

    ...Right...?

    Anywhooz you have one/small group of amateurs at something- mostly combat (ninjas!), but sometimes also a sport- and something happens to everyone who was more experienced then them, leaving the amatuers to save the day.

    Not Ragtag Bunch of Misfits, as this is specifically about the fact that one/small group is an amateur, and the more experienced people have failed.

    Thank you for your time tropers~ Reply
  • 6 Dec 27th, 2010 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 09:16:57 PM
    Okay, I really can't imagine this doesn't exist, but I didn't see it in any of the relevant categories I could think of. Is there a specific trope for the "Mwahaha! I'll force the princess to marry me!" plot? Like what happens in The Princess Bride or Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves?

    It's often (but not always) a subtrope of Abduction Is Love, but neither the name nor the description for that trope mention marriage. It can also be a subtrope of I Have You Now, My Pretty, but where that article mentions forced marriage, the link goes to Shotgun Wedding, which is about a couple being forced to marry by relatives because the bride is pregnant. Arranged Marriage is mostly about the real-world kind of arranged marriage where the marriage is just set up by the couple's parents. Reply

      Sounds like the marriage version of Scarpia Ultimatum.

      EDIT: On further reading... not quite.

      Sounds like the marriage version of Scarpia Ultimatum.

      EDIT: On further reading... not quite.

      Yeah, that's closely related, especially since the examples for Scarpia Ultimatum seem to turn it into any attempt to coerce someone into sex without directly threatening them. Even so, though, that doesn't quite cover it, since there's also the version where the villain just kidnaps his bride, or conspires with her parents to force the marriage on her, or whatever.

      I'm tempted to just go ahead and make the article, except for one thing - the only name I can think of is "Exquisite Bride Obsession", which is a game mechanic in the tabletop game Exalted that encourages certain villains to do this. It exactly describes the trope, and it's not totally unclear even if you don't know Exalted, but I'm not sure it's the best name. Worth taking it to YKTTW or no?


      Looking through the Marriage and Wedding tropes, I can't find anything dealing with a marriage to further a villainous goal.

      Though, admittedly, it seems like it could be another category in Arranged Marriage, as there is one article about forced marriage in there. Not quite the way you were talking, though.

      Looking through the Marriage and Wedding tropes, I can't find anything dealing with a marriage to further a villainous goal.

      Though, admittedly, it seems like it could be another category in Arranged Marriage, as there is one article about forced marriage in there. Not quite the way you were talking, though.

      Hmm, thanks, I hadn't seen that. You're right, though - the kind of forced-to-marry-the-villain marriage mentioned there is at most just a subtrope of what I'm talking about.
  • 1 Dec 28th, 2010 at 6:06AM
    Film
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 07:21:36 AM
    Is there a trope where a movie displays awesome graphics but has a terrible plot (e.g. Episode 1)? Reply
  • 2 Dec 28th, 2010 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 31st Dec, 2010 01:13:52 PM
    Is there a trope for the people who have the knowledge but refuse to give it out to their subordinates? (Artie from Warehouse 13 is a good example) Reply

      Cannot Spit It Out?

      I suppose but but: This type of noncommunication may be to add an aura of mystery. It is character based. (dungeon master in Dungeons and Dragons) There is no miscommunication, but a sometimes willful non-communication.

  • 5 Dec 28th, 2010 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 03:15:48 PM
    Is there a trope where a power/weapon/business plan is seen as evil because of the way the writers present it and/or the characters talk about; but if a fan sits down and thinks about it, he/she could realize that it has very positive results and minimal bad consequences? Reply

      Does Designed Evil fit?

      Probably not, since there's nothing on the page.

      Maybe an example would help:

      The black talisman of evil to summons demons. Now, because of the name, the type of creature summoned, and the type of people likely to use it in a story, the audience is led to believe that the item IS evil.

      However, if you realize that this item lets the user take control of a demon, which he/she could order to do good things, you realize that the good guys should be embracing these things just as much as the baddies do.

      I think One More meant Designated Evil.

      Yeah, I misspelled it. Thanks for correcting.

      Hmmm... That one might work, but I think that trope is talking about a particular person doing something.

      I should probably say the specific thing I'm thinking of. I apologize for the lack of links in advance, I'm new here and couldn't find the thread that explains how to do make them.

      In Avatar the Last Air Bender, there's this power called 'Bloodbending.' Powerful waterbenders can manipulate a person's blood and basically get them to do whatever they want. Now, the characters, the way it was learned, and the overall everything else behind it says that this is an evil power.

      HOWEVER, this is a 100% accurate, unbeatable (accept by another waterbender), and very easy to learn power. Seriously, Katara (the waterbender) had a full hang of it without one complete lesson. Now, here's the kicker: this power can make someone submit the battle to you WITHOUT KILLING THEM!

      So, in a nutshell, this 'evil' power could have taken the war that was in that show and ended it bloodlessly. Instead, convinced it was evil, Katara never used it in combat.

      Is there a trope for that?
  • 2 Dec 28th, 2010 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 11:06:23 AM
    Looking for a trope about the horizontal equivalent of vertigo, where a doorway (or any other object) that was close is suddenly at the end of a long hallway, causing slight dizziness. Example include F.E.A.R, Psi Ops and at least one ghost story. Reply

      Sounds like Vertigo Effect meets Endless Corridor.

      That probably the closest Im going to get, don't know if there are enough example of telescoping corridors to make a separate trope. Thanks for looking.

      Any tropes for fear of wide open spaces/ Agoraphobia ?
  • 2 Dec 28th, 2010 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th Dec, 2010 01:49:10 PM
    Is there a trope for when a character is obviousely gay (shows very open affections towards a character of the same gender) but it is never said that he is? Reply
  • 3 Dec 28th, 2010 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 30th Dec, 2010 02:26:20 AM
    Is there a trope about when a character eats so much and gets so fat that they can eat bigger and bigger things, and proceed to do so? Reply

      Big Eater and Balloon Belly are the closest tropes I can think of.

      Thanks. It seems like it's Big Eater with a side effect of Balloon Belly taken to extremes. It's like in this Garfield strip: http:/ /images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/1987/ga870517.gif without the space. I think this needs to be made into a trope, or at least a YKTTW. (If I understand TV Tropes correctly, of course.)

      Extreme Omnivore?
  • 3 Dec 28th, 2010 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 10:04:44 AM
    A trope where someone claims to dislike something, disapproves of it, or outright looks down their nose at it...but secretly they actually like or do that very thing. Closely related: where someone makes a claim like this specifically to keep people from guessing they like or do said activity. Do We Have This One?? Reply
  • 3 Dec 28th, 2010 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 12:19:01 AM
    Is there actually a trope where You basically have Animal Shopkeepers in what is otherwise a very human(oid) world? Those animals can be anthropomorphic, the regular talking animal variety, or just very normal animal that has the uncanny ability to run a shop all on their own without help from a human being.

    This trope wouldn't count if they were in a world where everyone else were animals. Just when they're in a world where it would be considered a little unusual once you notice that about everyone else is human, and you get to wondering where those anthropomorphic animals came from. or the fact that apparently nobody else finds it odd that a normal-looking parrot or a cat is able to run a shop all on their own, with apparently no human owner in sight. Reply

      Funny Animal?

      I don't think that one would count. After all, those animals aren't so much as funny or odd as the fact that they're usually regular animals who happen to be running a shop somehow for some bizarre reason. For example, in Vinditcus, a M Morpg, there's some normal animals who apparently runs shops and the marketplace. They don't talk at all, and apparently nobody owns them, so it's just not some mysteriously absent shopkeeper who left their pet behind to run things for them.

      although in some other games those regular looking animals also happen to talk too. *shrugs* there really should be a trope for Animal shopkeepers.

      Just found some tropes that would somewhat apply to this: The Intellectual Animal, and the uplifted animal. The animal shopkeeper could be a sub-trope of both those tropes, don't you think? there's also the Civilized Animal for some of those animal shopkeepers.

  • 2 Dec 28th, 2010 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 10:11:08 AM
    Do we have a trope for a series of 'nos', usually said by a person after a shocking and horrifying reveal? Reply
  • 2 Dec 29th, 2010 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 11:18:30 PM
    I've noticed recently, especially in anime programs, that the Big Bad or Monster of the Week will often preceed their first attack of a battle by describing to the main characters exactly what their reason is for fighting/seeking them out, and exactly how they are going to accomplish it.

    Also, when the hero(s) are unable to defeat the enemy that has just explained to them what they're going to do, the enemy provides a bout of evil laughter, followed by a revelation that there is something more complex about their plan.

    Example: Let's say the villian is a Mage with a pet bird. One of the members of the Hero's company is cursed by the Mage and the group sets out after them. Upon finding the Mage, they attempt to kill her. She says something along the lines of "First I will kill you Hero, then your (cursed) friend will be cast into hell by my magic!". The hero attacks, and after a short battle sequence is unable to defeat the Mage. It is then revealed that the only way to break the curse on the friend is to first kill the bird.

    I've seen this, or something similar more than once, but I'm wondering, do we have this one? It there a trope similar to this? Reply
  • 1 Dec 29th, 2010 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 11:47:24 PM
    Is there a trope where an unattractive character becomes attractive over the course of a series, be it through magical means, hard work, or simple passage of time? It's not Beautiful All Along because the character would be genuinely ugly to begin with. It's not really {{She's All Grown Up}} either because it would be a main or central character rather than someone the protagonist hasn't seen in awhile. I don't really think it's she cleans up nicely either because as far as I can tell that trope is exactly the same as beautiful all along. It would be most similar to a shallow version of took a level in badass but in regards to appearance and not badassness.

    Examples would be the ugly duckling or the beast from Beauty and the Beast.

    Does it exist? Reply
  • 3 Dec 29th, 2010 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 29th Dec, 2010 11:56:21 AM
    Is there a trope where one of the protagonists face a situation where he would need something he usually carries with him (gun, mallet, cellphone, hat with a large plume) but for some reason has forgotten or been unable to bring along this time?

    Likewise, is there a trope where the protagonist's friend casually hands him the object because he knew he "would be needing it"? Reply
  • 1 Dec 29th, 2010 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 2nd Jan, 2011 05:52:57 PM
    So didn't there used to be a counterpart of Real Women Never Wear Dresses called Real Women Always Wear Dresses? You know, where a really butch female character is derided because obviously there's something wrong with being female and not having traditional feminine traits? Was it renamed? Did I just imagine this?

    Or is it just covered under another trope? It's not quite No Guy Wants an Amazon - that's specifically about butch women being unattractive to men, not about there just being something wrong with them in general - and it's not Acceptable Feminine Goals, since that's about female characters being given tacked-on feminine traits to avoid this. And it's not Straw Feminist, since a female character can be extremely masculine without actually being a feminist.

    Come to think of it, is there even a trope for the gender-flipped version where a male character is derided for having feminine traits? Reply

      Uh, bump cause I'm pretty shocked we don't have this one. Can anyone at least confirm that I'm not crazy and there isn't a trope for this before I take it to YKTTW?
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