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Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
24th Apr, 2024 12:47:08 AM

Bump.

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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
24th Apr, 2024 01:57:01 AM

Is it even necessary to mention wearing overalls without a shirt? It can be a fashion trope or a fanservice trope, but without that context it seems a bit like people sitting on chairs. Yes, some people go shirtless if it's warm outside, but people go shirtless with jeans or shorts or other kinds of clothes as well, and doing it with overalls seems to carry no special significance - unless it's done for fanservice or as a fashion statement.

Also: No offense, but it can be interpreted as an attempt to sneak in a fetishy comment in a non-sexual context, something that gives off somewhat unsavoury vibes. I'm not accusing you or anyone else of actually doing that, I'm just saying that it can be interpreted that way, so you may want to avoid that. (Just for the record, I'm not being a prude here - I just know how people tend to (over)interpret the text).

Edited by GnomeTitan
Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
24th Apr, 2024 02:50:43 AM

Originally I wrote it to not mention shirtlessness at all outside of the fifth category with a nod to the fanservice side which was a concession in its way. I didn't think it was worth mentioning outside of that (if at all). It was recently added in by Gofastmike. I don't think it's notable under the work trope at all.

(Edited for clarity.)

Edited by Nethilia I know more about obscure 1990s Middle Grade Literature novels than most people.
Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
27th Apr, 2024 12:58:30 AM

Bump: is this something I can safely remove without causing an edit war?

I know more about obscure 1990s Middle Grade Literature novels than most people.
Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
30th Apr, 2024 06:04:39 PM

Another bump; I'd like to make sure I can remove the fanservice-y parts added. I've received no replies from Gofastmike, but they've done edits since this opened.

Edited by Nethilia I know more about obscure 1990s Middle Grade Literature novels than most people.
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
30th Apr, 2024 07:10:02 PM

Try pinging them here

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Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
30th Apr, 2024 07:45:57 PM

I've tried twice but let's try a third:

Gofastmike

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
30th Apr, 2024 07:46:43 PM

You need the full markup.

~Gofastmike

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Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
30th Apr, 2024 07:48:30 PM

Thanks, I think I've been pinging wrong.

I know more about obscure 1990s Middle Grade Literature novels than most people.
Gofastmike Since: Mar, 2017
1st May, 2024 09:58:16 AM

If you're looking for a consensus, I already made one, but it died out with zero comments. And with nothing to go on, I had to work off my own experience. You're also wrong about the fanservice part, no fanservice was intended, with the full details being in my query.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
1st May, 2024 10:18:27 AM

Go ahead and cut the bit. It's needlessly granular and grossly overstates the practical valuation of it (as well as the ease of cleaning one's skin) to the point of misinformation.

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Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
1st May, 2024 01:58:54 PM

~Gofastmike If that ATT post didn't get any comments, then there wasn't a consensus over there. I never saw that post, nor did I see your draft proposal on TLP outside of someone pointing me towards the defunct TLP after I started working on Rough Overalls to get examples for what I was working on. I didn't "steal" a draft, I worked on my own, and since this is a wiki, all efforts to make new tropes are collaborative. I did the work myself with help from the community.

At least two people have said that the part about going without a shirt should be cut. Could you explain why it should stay?

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Nethilia (Life not ruined yet)
7th May, 2024 04:51:12 PM

There's been no reply after a proper ping, and at least two people have said to cut it. I want to make sure I'm not edit warring when I do so.

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