• 5 May 28th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Videogame
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 10:37:53 PM
    Editor Blurios keeps deleting a Space Jews example I added to Knuckles entry on the Sonic games character sheet without giving an edit reason. Reply

      Provide a link to the entry, please?

      Sonic the Hedgehog - Team Sonic is the page.

      By the way, that is Edit War, but he should have come here to talk about whether that example or not is appropriate.

      Bringing them in.

      What do we do about the Space Jews article on Knuckles' tab?
  • 1 May 28th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 10:37:23 PM
    recently, I removed an unfortunate implications example in Platinum End . Looking to the edit history, i noted this is actually an edit war- i removed the example originally in 18 jun. 7 december, Silver Wings put the example again. Silver Wings was the original poster of the example, in 8 Feb. Reply

      Oops. Your removal did state it did not have citation.
  • 6 May 27th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 09:53:32 PM
    Nuclear Family's page has multiple sections with their own trope lists. Is that allowed there? Reply

      What the everlasting hell is that?

      Yeah, those could all stand to be merged. The examples themselves can handle those section head explanations.

      On top of the other, more obvious problems, that sort of thing is likely to encourage ZCEs. Another vote to merge.

      What Candi said. In addition, if there's a need to list the various variations, I'd suggest doing that as part of the main trope description, not as headers for the unnecessary example sections.

      Bump. ... So, do I merge, or do we send it to TRS. or Trope Talk, or what?

      'Cause leaving it on ATT means someone, most likely me, will have to keep bumping until it's resolved?

      You can merge the folders. The description might need a discussion page or something.

      If you want to tweak the Example Indentation, you can do that too.
  • 1 May 28th, 2017 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 09:52:06 PM
    Can Collapsed Mid-Speech and Killed Mid-Sentence occur together?

    Is CMS just the "didn't die" version of KMS? Reply

      I suppose they can occur together, but a person can collapse without dying immediately.
  • 2 May 28th, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 09:47:45 PM
    Is there any reason why the actor Creator.Rob Lowe is a redirect to the Creator.Brat Pack page rather than having a Creator page in his own right? Is that a mistake or deliberate? Reply

      I think that's fine. If there isn't a Creator page for a person yet, you might as well help people looking for that Creator by pointing them to the next best page. Creator/OprahWinfrey redirects to Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow and that isn't even a Creator page, but as long as there isn't a Creator page for the person proper yet, this is the most convenient.

      I'm pretty sure a redlink would be preferable here to encourage someone to make the page.
  • 0 May 28th, 2017 at 9:09PM
    Revert my edit. I forgot what page I was on.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Webcomic.KeychainOfCreation Reply
  • 1 May 28th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 08:01:10 PM
    • Sonic Boom is a hugely popular show amongst children and critics. The consensus among most Sonic fans is that it's mediocre at best, insultingly dumb at worst.

    This is a BIG citation needed because I'm active in the fandom (at least on Tumblr) and it seems to be a big hit with the fans with most agreeing it's one of the best Sonic things in years. Reply

      Perhaps it's outdated? I remember hearing a while back that not a lot of people liked the show when it first started airing.
  • 1 May 27th, 2017 at 11:11PM
    Literature
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 07:57:27 PM
    I came across Literature.Rai Kirah today while checking my watchlist updates. It's a recently created page made by indigoazure.. The issue here is that, at the time of this writing, there's no description for the work whatsoever. All it has is, and I quote, "(Also commonly written as Rai-Kirah). A fantasy series of three books by Carol Berg." and then a list of the three books in the trilogy. There's a few issues with the tropes themselves, the most glaring being three tropes listed on one bullet and whose context was quotations direct from the book itself. I just flat out deleted those and commented out anything else blatantly zero context. (EDIT: The editor has fixed the three on one bullet tropes by putting at least two as their own tropes with context)

    I've sent the page creator a PM about fixing the description, specifically linking to How to Create a Works Page and quoting the relevant portion to make the point. I'm mostly posting here, too, to have everything "on the record" so to speak in case any further action is needed later. Reply

      (Googles) for reference, published 2000.
  • 4 May 27th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 07:54:56 PM
    How can you add a new trope? Reply

      This doesn't need to be private.

      Tips For Editing and Text Formatting Rules might be places to start.

      Keep in mind, new accounts can't do certain things for varying periods of time. Thank trolls, vandals, and spambots.

      The best way to add a new trope is to go to the TLP (Trope Launch Pad) and click on the "Create a new TLP" button (of course "TLP" should be "Trope").

      The tropers on the TLP can give good advice on improving your proposal (including its name), provide examples, and so on.

      There's more information on YKTTW Guidelines and A Guide to Easy Launching of Your YKTTW (YKTTW is the old name for the TLP).

      (Headdesk) my apologies. I thought that meant 'add a trope example to a page'. >.<

  • 1 May 28th, 2017 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 07:52:52 PM
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/SpacebattlesMultiverse Recently I created this page to house tropes for a collaborative Fanfic that I was taking part in. The reasons given were: "Page Made in the Wrong Namespace" and "Website has nothing to do with the contents of the page"

    I don't feel that these are valid reasons for it's removal. It was a fanfic, so it should be in the Fanfic namespace, and the website is part of the projects name, so it is relevent to the Page's contents. If there anyway to recover this page as it was, or will it need to be recreated from scratch? Reply

      It'll have to be recreated.

      Alien Space Bats is a trope, which probably didn't help.

      The Fanfic must have the actual name of the fix, not just where it's hosted. It also must be accessible to the general public -no paywalls, no invitations to view, just log in (at most) and look, so the tropes can be independently verified. It must also abide by Content Policy.

      As you are a Creator, you must not touch YMMV tropes, except to move from the main page or correct spelling/formatting. This is a hard rule here.

      Hope this helps.
  • 7 May 28th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 07:47:48 PM
    DrY9K has been editing or outright deleting entries that talk about LGBT issues without leaving edit reasons as to why they're doing so. Some of their edits, such as on AmbiguouslyGay.AnimatedFilms and on SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped remove lines that mention how sexuality is something you're born with and "It is okay if you are LGBTQ". They also outright deleted an entry that said you can't change a person's sexual orientation. Reply

      Also see their edits on Politically Incorrect Villain and A Threesome Is Hot. Seems like they really have some beef and are deliberately Agenda Based Edit Warring.

      Is this an example of a social justice warrior? And do we allow their kind of behavior on the wiki?

      I don't think so. Some of the edits he removed are for very unfriendly anvils. One of them, for Elsa in Frozen, was added back.

      Edit: OK, took a look at the other edits, and this is beginning to smell like an anti-sex agenda and bowdlerization.

      ^^ No and no.

      Suspension issued

      Nerf Guy;This person is the opposite of a SJW, they probably hates gay people.

      Nerf Guy: editing with an agenda is never allowed on the wiki, for any agenda.
  • 5 May 25th, 2017 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 07:45:32 PM
    I've just found a page that hasn't been indexed: RWBBY Verse Clashof Heroes

    I've never needed to do indexing, so I'm not completely certain what the process is for when coming across an orphaned page. I've read How Indexing Works, but I don't want to dive in and attempt to index the page without checking if there's a reporting process. I'm also not sure where this page should be indexed; it's a fanfiction. Reply

      Main.Fan Fic offers different categories and genres for indexing. For this I'd say FanFic.Crossover is your best starting point.

      That page needs to be moved. The title wasn't created properly. The URL should contain "Of Heroes" not "of Heroes" so it will CamelCase properly.

      Please don't use Custom Titling to fix it. That's not what it's for. :(

      Needs crosswicking, too

      Okay, thanks for the advice. Is there a forum thread I can take the page to for fixing? I've never created/indexed/moved pages, so I'm not entirely certain I'll fix it so much as make things worse.

      RWBBY Verse Clash Of Heroes

      Click on that link and you'll get the properly wicked page to edit. COPY and paste the content on the small of page to the correct page, then submit the small of page to the cutlist on the basis of a wrong title. Detail explanations are less likely to be turned down.

      Cross-wicking simply means copying the tropes to the appropriate trope pages and editing in the name of the namespaces work.

      How Indexing Works has the instructions for that.
  • 2 May 28th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 06:23:57 PM
    I'm wondering if we can put Foil when dealing with a character who replace another character. For example, the three replacement surgeons in M*A*S*H who had very different personalities to their predaccesors. Like how Henry Blake was an The Alleged Boss but Col. Potter was much more athority. Reply

      No. A foil is a character who interacts with another character. A replacement can be a foil to one of the remaining characters, even if the character they replaced wasn't, but they are not a Foil to the one they replaced.

      Contrasting Sequel Main Character is closer to what you're looking for.
  • 2 May 26th, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 06:12:40 PM
    Blazer has some odd edits scattered through out their edit history. I discovered them when cleaning up a bad edit to Earth Defense Force 2025. Edit history link for courtesy. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=Blazer

    Namely they seem to have an issue with adhering to the trope definitions in general for some tropes. After finishing related clean up for EDF 2025 and its follow up 4.1 release I checked some of their other edits and found some issues. There are likely more than the four I stopped with.

    Here are some of their more questionable edits.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=VideoGame.EarthDefenseForce2025 His entry here has nothing to do with being Hoist by His Own Petard.

    • Hoist by Their Own Petard: The Shield Bearer deflector shields are powerful enough to withstand numerous projectile weapons... but forgot to protect it from normal humans who can run only a few miles an hour.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=HoistByHisOwnPetard.AnimeAndManga His entry on Hoist by His Own Petard seems like it leads it up the trope being properly used but stops short of the point where it is explained.

    • Team Rocket's been hit with things like this from time to time. In one instance, at the end of the Johto arc, they capture Pikachu using a massive magnet, causing him to fall ill and begin to dangerously overcharge. In the very first episode of the Hoenn arc, they capture the ill Pikachu again, using a machine to absorb Pikachu's electricity, not knowing that all they've done is helped him release the excess electricity he had built up that they caused.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.GirlPowered The entry for Girl Powered is a bit of an odd mess with rambling cruft and doesn't exactly get to the point or really explain how it fits.

    • While the sole consistent of becoming a Pretty Cure is being a girl, it seems to flip flop on other matters:

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.PortingDisaster It simply does not fit the trope criteria. It was a one off bug that was fixed inside of a month. Also according to the entry they put up it was supposedly a superior example to the consoles.

    Reply

      Suspended.

      Masuko Miyo wasnt rejected due to being an adult, she was rejected because she was better off being an awesome journalist. What is this person doing?
  • 1 May 28th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Film
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 08:51:23 AM
    This was either a film or an episode of a TV series but I distinctly remember a man walking around a hospital or something, and he kept hearing a little girl singing a creepy version of the Hush Little Baby nursery rhyme. By the end of fhe film/episode, the man tried to set himself on fire and I can't remember whether he was successful or not . . . I know this isn't much to go on at all, but if anybody has any wuggestions and nos to what it might be I would be very thankful. Reply
  • 1 May 28th, 2017 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2017 08:40:37 AM
    Another bit of spam here Reply
  • 3 May 27th, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 08:36:53 PM
    Cumbersome Tercel is adding character alignments (Neutral Evil, Neutral Good, etc.) to YMMV pages even though those aren't allowed unless it's invoked, as far as I know. The rest of their edits are fine.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=CumbersomeTercel Reply

      That's not kosher.

      Some of their edits are ZC Es, so there is another problem.

      Way for them to blow their last chance...

      With this, they're gone for good.
  • 2 May 27th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 08:31:53 PM
    Emoji Fan 1995 has been deleting tons of entries without giving explanations.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=EmojiFan1995 Reply

      Emoji is Edit Warring with Ferot_Dreadnought since they re-deleted the YMMV items that were restored.

      [ETA] I've restored some of the other items they've deleted, but it looks like we're going to needs a revert on YMMV.The Emoji Movie.

      Given what they've been doing, this troper seems to have an agenda against certain YMMV items. Is it possible they're sock being used for ban evasion?

      IP check gave nothing, so resorting to a simple suspension.

      I'll revert afterwards.
  • 2 May 27th, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Videogame
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 06:55:37 PM
    Can a page for Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle be made or should we wait until it's 100% confirmed? Reply

      I think it's best to wait until we get official confirmation.

      We don't put up leaked information anyway. We wait for proper information to come up.
  • 0 May 27th, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Live Action TV
    My impression is, that in sitcom families with more than one child, the first child is almost always female (unless all children are male). Married with children, Roseanne, Bill Cosby, ALF, Grounded for life, My family. Just a few, that come to my mind right away. Am I right, that writers of this genre prefer older sisters and/or avoid older brothers? Could there be a trope behind this?

    [Edit:] I just saw, this question is better suited for Trope Finder. I'll repost it there. Maybe someone could remove this one, and sorry. Reply
  • 3 May 27th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 03:52:02 PM
    How do I add an Awesome tab to a media page? Reply

      Either use the Create New button at the top and select Awesome from the list, or simply edit the url and switch out the current page type (Charaters/Main/etc) for Awesome.

      I tried the Create New Tab, but Awesome wasn't among the options. The only one starting with A is Analysis.

      My understanding of it is that you go to the link where you want the awesome page (so instead of main/medianame you go to awesome/medianame) and then click edit (like theroguepenguin said). http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/CreatingNewPages in the notes here it says that you're always free to start a works page so I'm assuming an awesome page pretty much follows the same rules. Hope this works!
  • 1 May 27th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 09:44:03 AM
    Should creators' names be wicked in examples when the example already has a wick to a work?

    Because when searching for tropes for their works that don't have pages, it gets annoying.

    For example, I'm trying to find the tropes that are already listed for Her Father's Daughter, but some of the tropes that wick to its author, Gene Stratton-Porter, are tropes of works that already have their own pages. Reply

      Yes, especially if the creator has a creator Page.
  • 1 May 27th, 2017 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 07:38:31 AM
    Looking for the movie/tv series in which a group of people frequent the cremation oven of an animal shelter to burn bodies or evidence. Later they release all animals inside the shelter. Any idea? Reply
  • 1 May 26th, 2017 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 01:43:40 AM
    Vovka's edits might need a check, they removed some examples without edit reasons and no obvious reasoning (eg here, here and here) Reply
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