• 6 Feb 5th, 2018 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 8th Feb, 2018 11:08:31 AM
    I happened to have heard of this comic and was curious if it had an article here, so via Google I found this: Stupid Short Eevee Comic

    Yeah it's a complete stub, no wicks or crosswicks, no indexing, and obviously it wasn't run through the launch pad. The history shows Troper kome360 created the page (if said page never was cut before). Before this article is put on the chopping block, I'd figure to relay this here just in case. Reply

      You should message the creator and see if they intend to finish the page first.

      PM sent along with an indexing notifier.

      Noting, Work Pages Are A Free Launch. TLP can be useful, but not necessary.

      Although in the case of this comic, I would have recommended the Sandbox namespace. Stuff there is considered under construction by default.

      So far in three days, the user has logged in twice, but hasn't responded to my PM or the notifier at all. Do we need to give it a bit longer or go ahead and cut that comic page?

      I'd cut it. They've had adequate time to reply. They can always remake it later if they want to.

      Page cut.
  • 3 Jan 26th, 2018 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Jan, 2018 09:00:53 PM
    I'm currently working to polish up the character sheet of the webcomic "Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic", and I want to add a picture for each character. I have asked the author, Rich Morris, for permission to use extracts of his comic strips, and he said it was okay. I'm not sure about the copyright specification though. Do I have to note the author somewhere when I upload a picture to T Vtropes? Do I have to link every picture to the origin site? Reply

      If you have permission, you may simply need to note "All pictures used with permission" somewhere on the page, perhaps at the end of the intro paragraph (before getting to the descriptions and tropes for the characters).

      As for links on images, you don't need to for character pages, unless their sources are varied, which is not the case here.

      If you have the permission, it's ok to use it. I think you really needn't link every picture to his page.

      It could be useful to add a commented-out note (double percent sign) for editors with an explanation that we (= this wiki) have the author's permission to use the pictures on the page, and that permission might be valid for that page only and should not be reproduced or uploaded elsewhere.

      "Permission is valid" for that page/TV Tropes only.

      I think a sentence or two in the description and a commented-out note are both good ideas.
  • 1 Jan 18th, 2018 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 18th Jan, 2018 06:09:55 AM
    Any manga with betrayed mc or yandere, Like Berserk, Dungeon Seeker, Tate no yuusha ?? Reply

      You may need to ask in You Know That Show, or more likely the forums since they're more about identifying individual shows than what looks like seeking recommendations.
  • 19 Nov 28th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 13th Jan, 2018 05:21:44 AM
    A while back I created the page for DNA. I think it needs to be moved because their are some unrelated works with the same name that also have pages. Although I am not sure what to move it to. Also I have never moved a page before. I was thinking of moving it to WebComic/DNATheWebComic. Is there being works pages with the same name for unrelated works a good reason to move it? And if so, what should I move it to? Reply

      Generally yes, moving unrelated works that share a name is a good idea because otherwise subpages for said works will end up colliding. As for what to move it to, usually they're disambiguated by year of release, but that's not a hard rule, any name that logically fits should do.

      Ok. I will move it to WebComic/DNATheWebComic

      Just IMO, that title is... goofy. Maybe just DNA (Web Comic) or DNA (year) would be better

      dnathewebcomic.com is the website that the comic is located on, although the title of the comic is just DNA. On some other websites it is also called Project: DNA but not on the main website. I don't think that DNA (year) is right. I could also move it to DNA (author's name).

      DNA (webcomic) is right. I don't think that authors of webcomics are common knowledge.

      Under normal circumstances, duplication of the namespace for disambiguation is a very bad idea. However, because the URL itself uses "DNA The Web Comic", it's certainly an option in this case.

      With that being said, I object to WebComic/DNAWebComic specifically, because the URL uses the "The" and so should we.

      So DNA The Webcomic?

      ^ Not in Main namespace obviously, but yes.

      So should I move it to WebComic/DNATheWebComic or WebComic/DNAWebComic?

      Since the URL of the site is DNATheWebComic.com, I think our page being DNA The Web Comic makes more sense.

      Please note that the namespace is Webcomic/, not WebComic/

      And is the subpage collision so grave that it needs this split? Unless there is two webcomics by the same name, splitting to a different title is not encouraged. Subpages can just be divided in sections, one for the webcomic, one for other works...

      Now I am even more confused about what to do. I am getting so many different responses telling me different things.

      Also I thought it was WebComic not Webcomic. I have seen it done both ways but I thought that the former was the correct way.

      Oh, ok. I read the link. I will remember to capitalize it correctly if I move it.

      ^^^There's the annoyance factor when it comes to renaming pages. If I'm reading about Web Comic Alice and Bob Ride the Dragon, I personally Do Not Like running into examples for the completely different work Literature Alice and Bob Ride the Dragon. And vice versa.

      Edit: that includes properly folderized and separated examples. I'm picky that way.

      I have been distracted for a while with other things for a while but I am finally going to move the page very soon. I think I am going to move it to Webcomic/DNATheWebcomic although I am not sure yet. I may also move it to Webcomic/DNAWebcomic

      ^ I still believe the "the" should be included.

      ^ Agreed.

      move it to Webcomic.DNA The Webcomic, which keeps consistency in the spelling of webcomic and consistency in the title with the URL of the comic in question. Sandbox.Pages In Accidentally Miscapitalised Namespaces will tell you what the correct capitalisations are for namespaces.

      Alright then, I will move it to DNA The Webcomic very soon.
  • 2 Dec 23rd, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th Dec, 2017 02:04:13 AM
    About two weeks ago, I stumbled onto the stub page Webcomic.Unreality, which 1) was made by the comic's writer, one Kiyan Shahab, 2) had no examples, and 3) had a YMMV page with one non-YMMV item, made by said writer. I messaged the guy, telling him it needed examples and linking him to How to Create a Works Page, before throwing the YMMV page on the Cut List.

    His response was to add a single trope example and nothing else, indicating he did not take a look at the relevant rules and/or is not really interested in heeding those rules. So, I'm thinking a mod needs to chat with him, but should I just Cut List the page in the meantime? Reply

      You can take it to the YKTTW crash rescue thread for an official vetting, but if he doesn't fix it, it can go.

      The page has plenty of crosswicks (some of which may have been added by this Kiyan Shahab). If there are valid examples, they should be copied over.
  • 4 Dec 1st, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 3rd Dec, 2017 02:00:07 AM
    So, I would like to know if anyone here has ever heard of a comic from the early 2000s called "Dewclaw". I couldn't find any reference to it on TV Tropes; The original site went offline several years back, but then was resurrected as a sort of archive called www.dewclawproject.com. I was wondering if y'all would like to check it out. It's by a guy named Matt Johnson, and I originally learned about it while reading a book called "Digital Art: Painting with Pixels". Anyway, just thought I'd ask about it here. Thanks! Reply

      Please ask in You Know That Show.


      Not really, the OP isn't asking to identify a work, they already know it and listed a site where one can find it. It seems more like they're trying to promote the work, gather interest in it.

      ATT isn't really for plugging works either.

      The correct way to do so is by making a work page for it and Entry Pimping it.
  • 1 Nov 9th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 9th Nov, 2017 09:10:17 PM
    I've been creating work pages for a mangaka. She started out online but now some of her works are published volumes as well. I just wonder when should I use the Manga namespace/index and when should I use the Webcomic namespace/index? Reply

      In general, use whichever format came first, with the other as a redirect to it. So it sounds like they'd be in the Webcomic namespace with Manga/comicname as the redirect.
  • 6 Nov 3rd, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 4th Nov, 2017 05:24:31 PM
    Apparently the entire page just up and disappeared, as can be seen here. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/GrowthSpurt I honestly don't know what " Pages In Accidentally Miscapitalised Namespaces First Half" is, but is there any way to bring it back? Reply

      EDIT: Derp. Okay figured it out.

      It's been moved to http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PagesInAccidentallyMiscapitalisedNamespacesFirstHalf

      This is a temporary home for the cleanup project. You can probably add stuff to it on that page.

      What exactly is the "miscapitalised namespace" though? And how long would it take until it's its own page again?

      The namespace was capitalised as WebComic, but TV Tropes guidelines say that it must be capitalised as just Webcomic.

      So if I recreate it with that capitalization, it would be okay?

      Yeah, I think you can just go ahead and recreate it.

      It looks like the troper who cut the old miscapitalised version has finished the job and recreated it.
  • 1 Nov 1st, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 2nd Nov, 2017 04:54:54 PM
    I have a problem with FanWorks.Nuzlocke Comics. The page is used as a compilation of tropes for Fanfic or Fan Comics for Nuzlocke Comics.

    Normally, this namespace is used as an index for Fan Works present on the wiki. Each of these works should have their own page, either in Fanfic/ or Webcomic/, not gathered in one place. However, they lack enough description to make proper page right now. What should be done with this? Reply

      Maybe turn them into a proper sub index page, with red links to encourage creation of pages?
  • 4 Oct 27th, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th Oct, 2017 09:15:12 AM
    As I was browsing on the comic "Blur the Lines'' some time, I noticed that the last comic posted was on Easter 2015. And now, as I checked the site, it says "Domain Name Expired".

    I could help, but 1) My load is full; and 2) I could mess the layout of the page. Reply

      Pretty sure that if the work doesn't exist anymore, the page(s) have to be cutlisted. Mods?

      The work still exists. You just have to know where to look.

      OK then. So the link just needs fixing then. Or have you already done that?

      I think you misunderstood. The work still exists; shutting down the server that had hosted the work doesn't remove the work from existence. It is incredibly hard to remove a work from existence, so work pages are rarely deleted just because the creator refuses to publish it any more.
  • 2 Oct 19th, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 19th Oct, 2017 12:20:23 PM
    Is The Caretaker of the Ruins an actual thing? There's no link to it on the trope page. Reply
  • 1 Oct 8th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 8th Oct, 2017 02:33:45 PM
    How do I add a work that I can't find on the site at all? Reply
  • 1 Oct 4th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 4th Oct, 2017 08:39:13 PM
    Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Victory Fire

    I recently had come across this comic on the internet, but since I'm a new reader, I have no idea if this webcomic has any history pre-2012 (like if it started as a Fan Fic and then became a webcomic). So my question is this: Is this article possibly in the wrong namespace? If it is, then this article belongs the Webcomics namespace. Also I'm a novice, so I'm not comfortable trying to move pages by myself currently. Reply

      Given that there's no proof it exists in any other medium, and all tropes are for the webcomic, I have moved it to Webcomic/.
  • 2 Sep 7th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 7th Sep, 2017 04:42:59 AM
    So I was wondering, Why does Chris-chan belong at the Permanent Red Link Club at TV Tropes? Reply

      Because every page on him and his work turned into pure bile. And creator pages have lower priority than works or tropes.

      Is a long story, but in short: he is Troll-bait, and Tv Tropes have more standards than E.Dramatica.
  • 1 Aug 25th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 25th Aug, 2017 10:04:09 PM
    I made a page for Pokemon Mystery Dungeon comic, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Strong Hearts, and I put it in some index pages, but it's not showing up in the index bar at the bottom of the page. How do I fix that? Reply

      The Namespace on the index has to be the same as the work page in this case FanFic/
  • 1 Aug 14th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 14th Aug, 2017 03:45:55 PM
    Planet Zebeth

    I just wanted to relay some information in case if this page and/or any of its subpages get put on the cutlist that the comic's author had to suddenly disappear from the internet for awhile. She has started scrubbing everything off the internet and might attempt to put TV Tropes articles on Planet Zebeth onto the cutlist if she hasn't already did so.

    The only post I could find on why is she may be in personal danger (post was from Patreon). The articles may need some rewriting or moving to Darth Wiki though since the author took her comic down and there are no mirrors elsewhere at this time. Reply

      The Funny page was cut because it was blank, but I'm not sure when.
  • 3 May 2nd, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 2nd May, 2017 11:35:35 AM
    On YMMV.Sparklecare, someone deleted the Tear Jerker entry I wrote, saying I was "objectifying the artist's trauma". For context, it was a meta example of a Tear Jerker, in that the artist revealed that they started writing the webcomic (which is about a demented hospital) to cope with a traumatic experience they had at a real hospital.

    I don't really understand how I was "objectifying" it. Are meta examples of Tear Jerker and similar YMMV tropes not allowed? Was the last sentence of the Tear Jerker entry a bit too much? Reply

      That sounds uncomfortably close to troping the artist instead of the work.

      Oh, now I see what you mean.

      What about the last part of the entry for Heartwarming Moments, which basically just describes the artist thanking readers for reading the comic?

      That bit just describes the author thanking the reader. It's not dealing with the author's life. The tearjerker is.
  • 1 Mar 15th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Mar, 2017 09:54:24 AM
    Who Is Blackcrusader? Reply
  • 2 Mar 9th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 9th Mar, 2017 09:19:12 PM
    I'm the creator of The Bird Feeder webcomic, and there used to be a page here for it, though it's since been removed (see http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/TheBirdFeeder ). I understand completely why that was, as it had several Zero Content Example and Weblinks Are Not Examples violations, and I've since moved to a new CMS and changed the structure of the links anyway, so most of the page would be pretty useless.

    I was wondering, though, if it would be seen as bad form if I recreated the page myself, using an archived version of it as a template, and added some better descriptions for the examples. The page wasn't originally made by me, and I'm prepared to receive any abuse given to me for even asking to do this, but it was just a thought I had. Reply

      As long as you include a non-stub description of the comic at the top of the page, at least three non-Zero Context Examples, and remember to index the page and crosswick the trope entries to the relevant trope pages, it should be fine. Just keep in mind that you're not allowed to add YMMV or other audience reaction examples (they're called audience reactions for a reason, after all; the audience sees them, not the author), and keep in mind The Fic May Be Yours, But The Trope Page Is Ours - you don't get final say on what goes on the page.

      No abuse, just a request to create the article correctly, in compliance with our standards. That one was particularly awful, as most examples just had links to the comic as their context, which is completely unacceptable.
  • 5 Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 14th Feb, 2017 10:44:21 AM
    Over at Planet Zebeth, the article has fallen out of date and is need of updating (including any sub-pages). However the catch is any updates to the article may brush up against the "No troping real people." rule. The author of the comic has put some elements of her life into the comic including announcing transitioning from male to female and updating her avatar character to being female from the start.

    If anyone can help with safely updating this article, it would be appreciated. Reply

      If she airs these things in the work itself, I'd guess it's okay under the umbrella of Real Life Writes the Plot to mention it.

      There is no catch. That has nothing to do with "no troping real people." That rule specifically applies to creator pages, useful notes, and fandoms/userbases. If all instances of someone basing something in their work off of something in their real life fell afoul of the rule, nearly all fiction ever would be affected. See Write Who You Know.

      As long as you're troping the work and not the creator, there's nothing to worry about.

      It's like troping a stage persona. Don't trope the RL person's heartbreaks, but you can trope the persona's lousy relationships. (For an example.) The latter are all part of the show, while the former is very personal.

      You can also say that even if a fictional character is based on a person in real life, the fictional character is still fictional and not a real person. It's OK to trope the character's action in the work, even if they're based on what the real person did in real life, because it's still a work of fiction.

      Well the comic's author updated the main article leaving only the YMMV page untouched (since it's not allowed for authors to work on YMMV pages about their works). I guess this matter is moot now?
  • 1 Jan 19th, 2017 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 19th Jan, 2017 08:07:40 AM
    Since Series.Free Spirit and Webcomic.Free Spirit have different creators, but the same characters (the latter is an unofficial fan-produced comic of the former), does or doesn't it seem necessary to rename the latter and its subpages something like, "Free Spirit 2014" (though probably with a Wikiword hiding the year). Reply

      Yes, that's reasonable.
  • 3 Dec 19th, 2016 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 19th Dec, 2016 05:03:21 AM
    Fairly often when I look in the web comic section of tropes I find something like "Alice shows how its done in Webcomic" with Webcomic being a dead link. Should I just cut those examples or redirect it to archive.org or what?

    Recent example found in Non-Verbal Miscommunication with Those Destined. A webcomic that has been down since 2008. Reply

      Dead links should be removed or replaced with working links, obviously.

      But if the example is just the link, we have another problem: Weblinks Are Not Examples. So if you can add context to explain what happens in the comic pointed to, do so. Otherwise the example has to go.

      Do we link to Archive.org? Its not really feasible to read a webcomic that way due to long loading times. It would also take considerable work to find the page in question if the link isnt accurate. As is the case with Those Destined.

      Nope. Don't link to archive.org, just remove the example if you can't elaborate on it.