Needs Help: Prison Episode

This image◊ from Toy Story 3 was upvoted in the Image Suggestion thread, but it was noted that the current pic on Prison Episode is rather similar.

As I stated earlier, I think it would be easier to find a replacement for the latter trope. Examples: Seinfeld◊, Ernest Goes to Jail◊, Jimmy Two-Shoes, The Simpsons◊.

Opened.

Seinfeld for me.

"This image◊ from Toy Story 3 was upvoted in the Image Suggestion thread, but it was noted that the current pic on Prison Episode is rather similar." - Morgenthaler

Similar to what?

Anyway, if we're to get this in one frame, we'll have to rely on notability to get across the point that the show itself isn't about prison. Seinfeld may be fairly notable, but The Simpsons is even more so. So I decided to do three different within-350-pixel crops of the Simpsons example:

That said, I'm not sure whether The Simpsons is more notable than Toy Story or less... I also feel inclined to err on the side of more serious images by default, (ie. better to go from "serious images" to "silly examples" than "silly image" to "serious examples") and that Toy Story 3 screenshot feels more serious in its tone that the Simpsons or Seinfeld suggestions...

edited 7th Apr '17 2:07:34 PM by neoYTPism

"Similar to what?"

The suggestion ([1]◊) for Implicit Prison is similar to the image already on Prison Episode.

edited 7th Apr '17 2:56:28 PM by rodneyAnonymous

I'm getting into serious Simpsons overload so my vote's for Seinfeld or Jimmy Two-Shoes.

Got it, then.

"Simpsons overload"?

I think Jimmy Two-Shoes does the best job of conveying the concept, simply by virtue of being an obvious Episode Title Card.

@ neoYTPism: Similar to the new pic for Implicit Prison. I'm pretty sure it was in the thread title when I posted this, but someone apparently changed it around to Prison Episode.

RE: Simpsons: I'm ambivalent as to how valid an argument "overload" is. Sure, let's have variety if we can manage it, but I would assume that how Troperiffic a work is directly proportional to how many images from that work end up being used to illustrate tropes anyway.

That and a show as prone to commenting on tropes as The Simpsons goes well with this site.

^^ It was. I changed it. Having a thread tag/link to a different page than the suggestions are for is confusing.

Crowner's hooked.

Here's another advantage to the Simpsons one:

Seinfeld is a live action show. To anyone unfamiliar with it, nothing about that image indicates that the show isn't otherwise about prison.

The Simpsons, on the other hand, is an animated show. A colourful one, at that. While neither aspect proves it to be child-friendly or lighthearted, they're generally associated with media that's either too child-friendly or too lighthearted to mention a subject as depressing as prison, except in an unusually dark and/or serious episode.

If we want to avoid having too many Simpsons images, I can look through that list for Simpsons images that can much more easily be replaced with non-Simpsons images. But as far as suggestions put forth so far in this thread go, the Simpsons example is the most fitting by leaps and bounds.

edited 17th Apr '17 10:15:43 AM by neoYTPism

I like the Seinfeld image because something about the way the picture is composed is just inherently funny.

Also, we have enough page images from The Simpsons. Like, wow.

I'm not sure it should be funny. Prison's a pretty heavy subject, and I'd rather a mood whiplash from serious to funny as someone scrolls to the Seinfeld example than from funny to serious as someone scrolls to the, let's say, Toy Story example.

Again, image pickin' threads can be created to replace those other Simpsons images with non-Simpsons images. I might even start on it tomorrow if I'm not too busy.

Nah, don't go to that level of work just to swap a working pic out for something else, we've got enough going on in here as it is.

Votes bump; two in the green, one in consensus range.

One more bump; two in the green, but neither's in consensus range.

Of the two, I'd prefer the Jimmy In The Big House one. I'm not sure about in-context, but out-of-context, it looks like a Very Special Episode, while the Seinfeld one looks like it's taking prison lightly...

edited 23rd Apr '17 6:26:24 AM by neoYTPism

A prison episode of a comedy show and they are taking the subject lightly? Screw them.

Well, yeah. Being a sitcom doesn't mean it can't have serious moments, and some of the most famous sitcom moments are famous precisely by straying so far from the usual tone. And if there's any timing with which to be serious, it's when warning viewers to avoid ending up in a place notorious for being rife with rape and murder.

Even if the episode was meant to be darkly comedic, I'm skeptical that's typical of them. This trope turned Toy Story of all series dark; as far as Pixar movies go, anyway; and if I had to guess, I'd assume that's a little more typical of the trope, even if I'm not familiar with most of the examples.

Any way to assess which approach is more typical of it?

edited 23rd Apr '17 4:32:39 PM by neoYTPism

Seinfeld's example come from an episode that's more of a Courtroom Episode then a Prison Episode (and as it's the Grand Finale of Seinfeld, it's a pretty well-known episode.).

Any subject can be Played for Laughs.

Well, the argument's moot at this point since the crowner's now at 8 days and there's only one option in the green. It's up and tagged; caption?

Old pic: