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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For PokĂ©mon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the PokĂ©mon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the PokĂ©mon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a PokĂ©mon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

rinrinboss Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#124351: Nov 16th 2018 at 8:38:42 PM

Ryou Bakura and the Spirit of the Ring, Dual Deities of Impostor Split Personalities (The Spirit: Bakura, The Other Bakura, Dark Bakura, Yami Bakura, Thief King Bakura, Zorc Necrophades)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sin_ttulo_7.png
  • Rank: Quasideity/Demigod and Lesser God, respectively; Lesser to Intermediate together.
  • Symbol: The Millennium Ring.
  • Alignment: Neutral Good and Chaotic Evil, respectively.
  • Portfolio:
  • Allies:
  • Enemies:
  • It Was a Dark and Stormy Night in the House of Gaming. A shadowy figure slipped past the Guards, who noticed the presence a second too late before it disappeared completely. Suddenly, laughter spread across the halls, while an aura of bad omen crept into the House. Members of the House stood in alert, some preparing to attack the stranger at the slightest movement... until they heard a voice asking where the bathroom was, with a clearly clueless teenage boy (the source of the voice) wandering into the room. And that's how Ryou Bakura ascended.
  • Despite his friends' worries, Bakura has been rather cheerful since day one. He was happy to meet the Other Yugi again (he couldn't help but ask him what the afterlife is like), and was excited about entering the Pantheon. His complete lack of reaction to the fact that he was wearing the Millennium Ring again made several wonder if it wasn't actually a copy he made as a weird memento... or if he was under control again. Then, one night, he was seen using the Ring as it were a radar... The Spirit was found out, and has made no secret of his presence ever since.
    • The Spirit said he held no ill will towards Yugi and his friends, saying he was defeated fairly and that, now that Zorc was defeated, he could live (sort of) as his original identity, the Thief King Bakura. However, Yugi and his friends don't trust him, and with good reason; not only is he still part Zorc, but he wants nothing more than to kill the Pharaoh and his friends and gather the Millennium Items again to bring the Demon God Zorc to the Pantheon.
  • Yugi and Yami Yugi were horrified to know that Bakura had somehow gotten hold of the Millennium Ring (with a not-at-all-nice Spirit along with it), considering it got destroyed along wit the other Millennium Items at the end of their series. They have tried to keep him under constant vigilance, but Bakura has the strange ability to randomly disappear and reappear at the weirdest moments (which is especially unfortunate, as the Spirit had the strange habit of leaving inexplicable, non-lethal wounds in his host's body for others to find).
  • Most of the time, (normal) Bakura can be found in the House of Gaming, building scenarios for his tabletop RPGs], or in the House of Craft, searching for materials.
    • He can sometimes be found in the House of Food, finding stuff to eat or learning new recipes. It's the only place where one can be 100% sure on whether Bakura is in complete control or not; the Spirit's table manners are atrocious.
  • Bakura can also be found in the House of Otherness, particularly the House of Ghosts and the House of Undead. He's rather intrigued by the monsters' appearances.
    • King Boo tried to scare him. It didn't work, so King Boo is trying to sharpen his haunting skills. Gengar tried to scare him, too. It didn't work, either, but they became friends after Bakura found his tricks hilarious. He also developed a friendship of sorts with Hisako. He sympathizes with her plight (and appreciates the fact that she doesn't take it out on innocents), though she's wary of the Spirit's presence. He also sympathizes with the Frankenstein's Monster.
    • On the downside, The Spirit has taken advantage of these visits to forge an alliance with revenge-thirsty ghosts Sadako and Samara, as well as undead deities such as Spinal. His plans seem to be to gather an army, but he's not much of a leader, and he's not telling (of course).
  • Some have tried to ask the Spirit who or what he is, which still isn't very clear. Unfortunately, his answers alternate between "I'M A THIEF!", "I AM ZORC!", or simply laughing menacingly at the poor bastard who dared to approach him. He seems to enjoy the confusion.
What do we do with profiles that haven't been updated by original creator in over a year?

Edited by rinrinboss on Nov 16th 2018 at 8:48:15 AM

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#124352: Nov 16th 2018 at 9:01:26 PM

@Getting Over It Yusuke Kozaki did a version of Chrom Getting Over It.

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#124353: Nov 16th 2018 at 9:10:01 PM

[up] Is that the original artist?

If so, how did Chrom get stuck there? tongue

Uni cat
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#124354: Nov 16th 2018 at 9:12:30 PM

[up] Persistence.

Time to explore the world!
mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#124355: Nov 16th 2018 at 9:22:45 PM

[up][up]Yes. Awakening artist.

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#124356: Nov 16th 2018 at 9:34:35 PM

I just created Sandbox.Pantheon Landmark for testing. Its still rough. Anybody who wants to add stuff, do so.

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#124357: Nov 16th 2018 at 11:35:38 PM

Returning some profiles I haven't done for a while.

No-[tup]s Mode

Raava and Vaatu, Divine Forces of Dueling Absolutes (Raava: Rava)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/c000007025_par_zoom_b7547975_50bc_4ec0_ad61_937ae046fd8d_800x.jpg
Right: Vaatu, Left: Raava
  • Potential House:
  • [tup]s:

Feedvack Mode

Nier, Divine Herald of Save Data Deletion (Papa/Brother Nier, Replicant Nier, Twattycake, Defender of the Innocent)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/nier_nier_artwork.png
Left: Father Nier, Right: Brother Nier
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: A Lunar Tear flower
  • Alignment: Chaotic Good, or at least they try to be
  • Theme Song: Yonah
  • Portfolio: Will Kill Any Shade Just For Existing, Dark-based Magic, Multi-Melee Master, Chronic Hero Syndrome, Declaration of Protection, Destructive Saviour, Empowered Badass Normal, Goes Without A Plan And Makes One Up On The Spot, Those Who Care Not For The Consequences Of Their Actions, Held Back By Nothing (Except Sidequests), Born At September 11, Bad Powers, Good People, Super Drowning Skills, Actions Led To The Extinction Of The Human Race, Retconned From Existence
  • Domain: War, Destruction, Rage, Good
  • Herald: Grimoire Weiss
  • High Priest: The Fallen Child in the Genocide Path
  • Allies:
    • Father Nier: Guts
    • Brother Nier:
  • Enemies: Shades, any form of The Heartless (like Mr. Scratch), and any of its leaders (like Master Xehanort)
  • Opposes: Caim and Angelus (for screwing with his world)
  • Opposed by: Geralt of Rivia
  • Conflicting Opinion: Yu Narukami, Ryotaro Dojima
  • In video games, the best thing about them is that you can do whatever you want. Take Your Time, get Sidetracked by the Gold Saucer, level grind, and indulge in Video Game Cruelty Potential (and wait out your punishment before doing it all over again). After all, it's nothing a little Save Scumming can't fix, right? And then there are the games that threaten to take that away, too.
    • Nier himself isn't someone who enforces this, but rather is a "victim" of this, yet his end was so It Was His Sled iconic that the Court decided to ascend Nier for Deletion as Punishment. But how do you bring back someone who was Ret-Gone? Well, that's because right before the deletion, they turned that "deletion" into a "file move", thus still removing Nier and everything about him from his world as they brought his "data" into the Pantheon and reconstructed him.
    • That said, the deities at work on bringing Nier got things mixed up so that they ended up bringing in two Niers; one is a young adult, and one is middle-aged. As it was too late to rectify this issue, and because the retrieval teams technically both brought the "correct" Nier, it was decided that they both stay. After filling them in on what the Pantheon is all about.
      • That said, by Word of God, the younger Nier is the "canonical" one because he'd be the type to sacrifice himself to save KainĂ©, the woman he loves, whereas the older Nier would be more likely to Mercy Kill her so he can be there for Yonah. But their ascension has already been done, so they both stay, and as a result of History Repeats, both of them are "canon" anyway.
    • As for what is to be told about their worlds; they decided to relay the following (since some might tell them anyway out of spite): Nier's actions basically doomed the entire human race in their world to extinction. "Thankfully", there were still remnants on the moon that—millennia later—would eventually direct androids—such as 2B—to reclaim the planet from machines led by aliens (hey, millennia have passed; a lot can happen in that time). Although that turned out to be a farce perpetuated by YoRHa. The lie the Court did tell though was Yonah's (and KainĂ©'s) fate. Rather than tell them she dies anyway to the Black Scrawl in a few years, they were instead told that she lived a fulfilling life until old age eventually claimed her.
    • As for why Yonah and their friends could not be brought here, the Court says that that was the price of sacrificing their existence; the price cannot be rendered moot. Grimoire Weiss though was fair game since he did also sacrifice himself in the final battle and is being ascended soon. For the time being, they have to settle with simple swords (or lances).
  • Applies to either Nier:
    • Being from a world cursed with Endless Daytime, his first witnessing of night in the Pantheon left him in absolute awe, wishing that Yonah was here to see it.
    • Thanks to the knowledge of his world's past, he greatly despises Caim and Angelus because their coming to their world led to its inevitable end. Caim on the other hand wants his weapons back as some of Nier's findings were originally his.
    • While a good man who does good whenever he can, Nier's refusal to think about his actions tend to have some horrifying consequences. What he sees as monsters he refuses to see as possibly more than that. As such, he's often forced to stand down by deities with more restraint more times than either would like.
      • On the plus side, though, he's willing to do even the most meager of tasks just for the sake of helping others.
    • There are those who use Nier as an example of why you need to have perspective if you wish to be a hero, citing his ignorance resulting in being seen as a Complete Monster to the Shades as he even slaughtered their "children" as a prime reason.
    • -Should I put in a Matt Hardy joke here?-
    • Somehow, he can even drift with a giant boar! It needs to be seen to be believed.
    • Thanks to a certain old man, Nier is an exceptional fisherman, able to pull out all sorts of aquatic life, including sharks and ancient fish. Now in the Pantheon, this sometimes also includes the aquatic monsters the Monster Hunters hunt.
    • Has experience with having to face a ridiculous number of projectiles, though his weapons can harmlessly block them.
    • Drowns in any water deeper than his ankles. Though he'll just lose a bit of health (unless in a safe haven) and wash up somewhere nearby for their troubles. The reason why is because he never knew how to swim, since he was forbidden from coming into contact with the precious water resources.
    • Given what happened to humanity in their worlds, Berserker!Iji is reminded all too well of her own lack of thinking that also doomed hers. The worse part is that while Nier was doing it all for the sake of Yonah (with an added racism against Shades), she had "merely" sunk too deep in her rage against the invading aliens that she lost sight of her original objective; to get the invading aliens to leave Earth/Origin. By killing General Tor, the only one willing to listen (after taking a beating), the Komato responded with a full Alpha Strike.
  • Given the very excessive measures Nier has done to rescue his sister (for Brother Nier)/daughter (for Father Nier), Yu and Ryotaro (who have similar family dynamics with Nanako, even though Yu is actually her cousin rather than her brother) are very disturbed by this and wonder what they would've done had they been in Nier's position. Would they have not cared about the human race all just to save her? In hindsight, of course they wouldn't (and would live with their consequences), but otherwise…
  • Heard of what had happened to Emil through 2B and 9S, and is pissed with the latter since he stole from his house and later fought him.
  • Exclusive to "Father" Nier:
    • Word of Nier eventually reached Geralt as comparisons were drawn between him and the "newcomer"; both were white-haired swordsmen who are also fathers and use magic on the side. The differences became apparent when the two finally met though in a bar; Geralt's magic is his own whereas Nier uses Grimoire Weiss, he'll hold no comment over Yonah, Nier still goes out of his way to help the common folk while Geralt has long since given up on that (though he will help if he gets roped into it or if his loved ones are in danger), and there's also the "little" issue of Nier refusing to think things through when it comes to killing monsters, like if it's completely ambivalent, or even innocent, while Geralt isn't nearly as ignorant especially since Nier's actions brought about the extinction of the human race. The last bit triggered something fierce and it resulted in a swordfight Bar Brawl. They've been on bitter terms ever since.
  • Exclusive to "Brother" Nier:

[down]That's why I'm posting it here: sonI can receive feedback, not just advisories to add more info. Besides, I never even seen an LP of his storyline.

Edited by nightelf37 on Nov 17th 2018 at 10:20:32 PM

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TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018
#124358: Nov 17th 2018 at 4:02:09 AM

[up] This looks really good. You can add a bit more to the section exclusive to "Brother" Nier, but other than that it looks fine.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on Nov 17th 2018 at 4:15:14 AM

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No. 1 Entourage Fanboy
#124359: Nov 17th 2018 at 7:44:27 AM

Can I slow down my activity here for a while? I got some college work to finish. I'll be back during early December.

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...
Patrickthekid Since: Sep, 2015
#124360: Nov 17th 2018 at 12:29:31 PM

I'm ready to get back on the saddle. I'm going to work on Jon Stewart for News Parody and Horatio Crane for Quip to Black.

Edited by Patrickthekid on Nov 17th 2018 at 2:33:01 PM

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#124361: Nov 17th 2018 at 12:37:58 PM

I think Diogenes should keep his name since that's the official one.

It's been 3000 years…
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#124362: Nov 17th 2018 at 12:47:35 PM

[up] I was asking because Diogenes is an actual mythological character and i didn't want confusion.

[up][up] YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Uni cat
Patrickthekid Since: Sep, 2015
#124363: Nov 17th 2018 at 1:47:47 PM

Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz, God of News Parodies (Jon Stewart)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/jonstewart.jpg
  • Theme Song: Dog On Fire
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: The Daily News logo
  • Alignment: Neutral Good with Chaotic tendencies
  • Portfolio: Satire, Straight Man, Motor Mouth, Unfazed Everyman, Jewish Complaining, Butt-Monkey, Nice Guy with an occasional Brooklyn Rage
  • Domains: Knowledge, Good
  • Followers: John Oliver, Samantha Bee
  • High Priest: Trevor Noah
  • Allies: Kyle, The LOL Rangers
  • Rivals:
  • Enemies: Cartman, Trollkaiger
  • Opposed by: Hank Hill. Bandit Keith
  • Heterosexual Life-Partners: with Stephen Colbert
  • It has long been Stephen Colbert's mission to try and ascend Jon Stewart in the Pantheon. The two have been at odds with each other for years during the heydays of when they owned their own shows. With Jon retiring, Colbert had no rival anymore. So he worked tirelessly to find a way to ascend him. That day finally arrived as the interest for News Parodies has never been higher. Boosted by this new craving, Colbert brought Stewart into the Pantheon. The first thing he did was gloat bout beating him to the Pantheon by several years. The next moment was spent with the two hugging each other. Differences aside, the two have become best of friends. Nowadays, Jon runs his own show entirely within the Pantheon to tell the news on what has happened in the land.
    • There are many anchors who use the News Parody as their platform but it was Jon Stewart who paved the way to making it popular. In fact, many of his followers ended up creating their own shows, including the ascended Stephen Colbert. The current head of his old show is Trevor Noah, his high priest. His final show was an emotional affair, with many hoping that he would continue on well past 2015. But he had made up his mind by then, leaving things to his high priest as he ventures off on his own.
  • With his new show in the Pantheon, Jon spent little time taking shots at the idiocy of many in the Pantheon. With plenty of factions around, there was no shortage of topics to bring up. It was then that he realized that people here tend to strike back much harder. A day after making fun of Handsome Jack's Villianous Breakdown, his show was completely taken over remotely by Trollkaiger who responded by spending an entire episode dissing Jon Stewart. The day was saved when the LOL Rangers managed to regain control of the broadcast. Afterwards, they invited him to become a partner ranger. Stewart is contemplating as we speak.
  • A New Yorker through and through, he has the city's back. That goes double for anyone who tries to talk trash about the Big Apple. That and anyone who tries to say deep dish pizza is better than New York style.
  • The were two different reactions to his ascension for the boys of South Park. Kyle welcomed the news, as he got to see a Nice Jewish Boy grow up to become the man known as Jon Stewart. Cartman on the other hand despises the man, accusing the man of showing liberal bias. Jon tends to prefer the former, but he also allowed Cartman to speak his mind in his show from time to time.
  • He may be on the left side of the political spectrum and does enjoy dissing conservatives on Fox News, but do not convince him to carry that sort of news over to actual news channels. Creator/CNN learned a painful lesson when they tried to get Jon Stewart to endorse their new show Crossfire it was cancelled shortly after his appearance after he bashed the very concept of the show.
  • Jon Stewart's career rose to its height by making fun of George W. Bush and his vice president Dick Cheney. This did not sit well with many followers of Hank Hill who revered the former president. Hank chimed in, stating he thought that Dubya was treated unfairly during that time. With that said, he does admit that some of his jokes are funny.
  • Bandit Keith had a more hostile reaction. He demanded to be put on the show to give the comedian a piece of his mind. Keith only served to embarass himself even more, with the resulting video scoring millions on viewers.
  • The fact that there is even a tiny chance for a Commie Nazi to ascend drives him up the wall. Jon can't comprehend how such a being can ever make it to the Pantheon, not because they are Obviously Evil but because such a thing should not exist given how diametrically opposed the two groups are. One can be sure he will shoot down any candidate to ascend on that regard.

Looks like the Pantheon's about to get *Glasses Pull* quippy

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Horatio Caine, Divine Wielder of the Quip to Black

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/caine.jpg
  • Theme Song: YEEAAAAAAAAAAH! You know the one.
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: His sunglasses
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolios: Master of the Glasses Pull, Hard Boiled Detective, Hard on criminals yet friendly towards kids, Can't keep girlfriends from dying.
  • Domains: Law, Good
  • Heralds: His CSI Miami Crew
  • Allies: Gil Grissom, Leroy Jethro Gibbs, Abby Sciuto, Dirty Harry, the subhouse of Pantheon/Children
  • Rivals: Guzmo
  • Enemies: Jack the Ripper, Wesker
  • Frankly, the only thing keeping Horatio from entering the Pantheon were those who found his quips to be annoying. Nevertheless, Gil found the time to bring his old friend from Miami into the Pantheon. Upon gazing at his new domain, he took out his glasses before getting back to work.
    • It is difficult to understate just how well-known his antics became. He may actually be the most recognizable member of the CSI team just on his quips. Of course, his detractors used this as proof of the decline of the franchise. Still, he has plenty of fans to go around. As of right now, Gil takes care of the paperwork while Caine goes out in active duty. The later has always prefered to get his hands dirty than his predecessor. The two hope to find ways to get more from their [[Franchise/CSI world]] into the Pantheon.
    • While the two never got to meet during their mortal lives, he is by far one of the most beloved partners for Gibbs and Abby. Gibbs is probably the only other Cop Show that has gained the same popularity. Gibbs has had constant praise among his constituents while Horatio's fame mainly comes from the internet. The two of them dismissed any debate over who would win in a fight. While Abby sides with Gibbs, she couldn't help but feel enamored by Mr. Caine.
  • Loves the fact that there are many cops like Dirty Harry who are willing to do whatever it takes to take down the bad guy... more than most in the House of Justice. Harry in turn is thankful for Caine for letting him bend the rules a bit. This has gotten them in trouble at times from Judge Dredd who would rather not have lawyers get in their case.
  • Given his cold and withdrawn demeanor, it may surprise a lot of people at how well he does with kids. Some theorize that he had always wanted to have a family... if only his girlfriends stop dying on him. Nevertheless, deities in the subhouse of Children are grateful of him for looking out for them.
  • As the series' MO seems to be Always Murder, one can expect him to run into Jack the Ripper multiple times. Caine would want nothing but to send the man on Deaths Row, but the enigma has proven to be an elusive target.
  • May well be one of the most famous fictional characters who sports their sunglasses at all times. So much so that he wears them even when such eyewear isn't needed. With that said, he has no intentions of taking that Guzma's position. That hasn't stopped the Team Skull member from trashing his 'inferior shades'.
    • Wesker doesn't see him as any serious threat, but his followers did not take kindly to Caine rivalling their patron in terms of shades. Of course Caine would rather shut down Wesker's labs than to go into blows ever who have the cooler shades, a plan that Wesker laughed at as absurd. Not like the man stands a chance against him anyways.

Edited by Patrickthekid on Nov 21st 2018 at 2:57:04 PM

RokuAlhazared The Emperor Of Darkness Since: Jul, 2015
The Emperor Of Darkness
#124364: Nov 17th 2018 at 1:52:57 PM

Think I can get away with cut-and-pasting parts of Gilius' file to the Trio's files?

Ax Battler, Tyris Flare, and Gilius Thunderhead, Holy Triumvirate of Balance, Power and Speed (Ax Battler: Ax=Battler, Tarik the Axe Battler, The Barbarian, Lord of the Frozen North; Tyris Flare: Tyris=Flare, The Amazon; Gilius: Gilius=Thunderhead, The Dwarf)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/2f402044217136ce4740b02c2f21db9a.jpg
from left: Gilius Thunderhead, Ax Battler and Tyris Flare

The One Who Crosses The Sky In Flames
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#124365: Nov 17th 2018 at 2:43:30 PM

[up] I see no problem reusing flavour texts from Gillius old profile. Although try to see if it doesn't conflict with the new one.

Also, point out the ironic nature of Ax's name. Because i don't see him using an Axe.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Nov 17th 2018 at 7:43:40 AM

Uni cat
SpaceProtagonist Since: Sep, 2018
#124366: Nov 17th 2018 at 3:33:38 PM

Okay, now that I know the rules better, I'm going to update my Slappy profile, and this time, I'm going to let you see my work and tell me what I can improve before putting it on the real thing.

Hello, I'm the American Cinema Critic, I remember because the majors don't.
KaijinZero Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#124367: Nov 17th 2018 at 4:11:02 PM

you're gonna want to discuss it first before making a profile.

SpaceProtagonist Since: Sep, 2018
#124368: Nov 17th 2018 at 4:26:57 PM

Okay, like a said before, Slappy the Dummy's trope was Demonic Dummy.

Hello, I'm the American Cinema Critic, I remember because the majors don't.
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#124369: Nov 17th 2018 at 4:44:40 PM

@ John Stewart: I think John Oliver should actually be his High Priest, as he has worked on the Tonight Show before going onto Last Week Tonight, and often filled in for John on certain episodes.

On that note, today is the ascension day for Big Al and Liopleurodon. Which means...

The ghost of Big Al has awoken from his 145 million year old slumber, Whilst the most feared predator of the Jurassic has returned with a vengeance.

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Nov 17th 2018 at 6:03:57 AM

Time to explore the world!
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#124370: Nov 17th 2018 at 5:57:48 PM

I wonder who could take Sensory Tentacles

Uni cat
mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#124371: Nov 17th 2018 at 6:12:52 PM

I think this used to be by Blacksunnocturne who stopped coming. This is obvious out of data and I'll have to fix up some stuff.

And now, the curtain rises. The stage is set. Our performance, begins.

Khada Jhin, God of Deadly Fours (the Virtuoso, the Golden Demon, the Artisan Killer, Deadeye)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/jhin_originalloading.jpg

Edited by mariovsonic999 on Nov 17th 2018 at 6:15:16 AM

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#124372: Nov 17th 2018 at 7:54:22 PM

[up] I noticed that most of BSN's profiles tended to be self-contained. Which btw, Shen is no longer here.

On that note, i think we should remove Aatrox.

Uni cat
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#124373: Nov 17th 2018 at 8:12:17 PM

Promoting Pantheon Landmark. Added more to it. Again, anybody can add places they want.

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#124374: Nov 17th 2018 at 9:14:59 PM

@Faso Yeah, it's outdated to say the least. I think I have to scrap the entire thing and start anew.

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#124375: Nov 17th 2018 at 9:38:29 PM

Next Time on Tropes Pantheon!

Will Khada take the thumbs up? Will Jon Stewart reunite with Stephen Colbert? Will Raava and Vaatu finally make it up after being in process for over five months?

Tune in next time! Same Pantheon place! Same Pantheon time!

Time to explore the world!

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