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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For PokĂ©mon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the PokĂ©mon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the PokĂ©mon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a PokĂ©mon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#139501: Jun 18th 2019 at 11:25:27 AM

I'll do it. The Thing (1982) ends with Childs and Mac in a destroyed arctic camp, with no hope of rescue. it's also left ambiguous as to whether Nauls died (although it is strongly implied he did) or even if Childs himself is a thing.

Retired effective March 1, 2022
ReynTheLord Makoto Yuku from Tatsumi Port Island (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Makoto Yuku
#139502: Jun 18th 2019 at 11:25:48 AM

[up][up] At the end of the thing, Macready and Childs are the only two left from the aftermath of the fight with the shapeshifting, assimilating, Kill and replace style organism known as "The thing". We've been with mac the entire time, and Childs has been off screen for a bit. Either one of them could be a thing though, and john carpenter said that in this, at least if i recall correctly, one of the two of them is a thing, and the other is human. Nobody knows which one is really the thing and who's human, and it's often debated and theorized in the film community which one is the thing. It's an EXTREMELY ambiguous ending. There's also other details that the other guy above me said

On another note Mac might get in the pantheon for his glorious beard.◊

Edited by ReynTheLord on Jun 18th 2019 at 12:27:17 PM

A nightly dance of bleeding swords reminds me that I still live
SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#139503: Jun 18th 2019 at 11:26:46 AM

[up]kinda beat you to the punch there sorry...

Retired effective March 1, 2022
227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018
I hate spoilers
#139504: Jun 18th 2019 at 11:32:10 AM

I used the transparent image and extended the story.

Lora, Goddess of Prequels Set in Lost Times (Laura, Knight of Torna)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/244_6.png

Everyone look at my sandbox
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#139505: Jun 18th 2019 at 12:12:07 PM

[up] Enemy of Hisoka for hurting Gon and Killua. After that a [tup] if you help me start Pyra and Mythra's profile when I find a trope.

Edited by Mizerous on Jun 18th 2019 at 3:12:21 PM

Mileena Madness
yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#139506: Jun 18th 2019 at 12:13:55 PM

[up][up] Alright, you're good on the basics, I think. But it still needs some more trivias. So, go crazy! Use your imagination and come up with some other deities for them to have relationships with, whether they be good relationships or... not so good relationships. Take your time with it, cus there aren't any time limits or anything, and present it here again when you think it's finished!

Edited by yugi195 on Jun 18th 2019 at 2:14:19 PM

In another few hours, the sun will rise.
louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#139507: Jun 18th 2019 at 1:54:56 PM

Chakal, God of Never Taking Any Nonsense (The Bandit King)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chakal_28129_3.jpg
  • [tup]s: 1 (Superwiki)
  • Adopted from: Muundeis
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: The skull surrounded around the bombs
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Misanthrope Supreme, Artificial Limbs, Bad Boss, Badass Mustache, Even Evil Has Loved Ones, Evil Counterpart to Xibalba, Large and in Charge, Shadow Archetype to Joaquin, Fate Worse than Death, Suicide Attack
  • Domains: Hatred, Obsession, Bandits, Terrorists
  • Herald: His bandits (most notably Chela)
  • "Allies" (for now): Shinobu Sensui, Lysandere
  • Enemies: Manolo Sanchez, Maria Posada, and Joaquin Mondragon, La Muerte Xibalba, Hector, Speedy Gonzalez, Calem and Serena, Yusuke Urameshi and his allies, Vash the Stampede, Star-Lord, Lucky Luke, Handsome Jack, Hob Gadling, Scathach, Chiron, pretty much the entire humankind and any deity that aren't humans (but he is willing to have an alliance if it means achieving his goals)
  • Additional Relationships: Acnologia
  • Becoming so obsessed with the Medal of Everlasting Life that he became insane when he lose it, he is the king of thr bandits and terrorized the Mexico to search for the medal. Hearing that San Angel's hero has it, he terrorized the town with his bandits, killing Manolo and his father in the process. Thanks to the intervention of La Muerte, Xibalba, and the Candlemaker, Manolo is brought back from the dead, the entire Sanchez family rose from the dead, and launched their attach against him. Seeing no other choice, he strapped a bomb around himself, planning to take the entire town along with him upon their death, which eventually backfires as he was hit by a bell (with Manolo who has the Medal of Everlasting which caused him to survived) before the bomb exploded, killing him in the process, causing him to stay in the Land of the Cursed.
  • Manolo and his friends are not happy upon hearing his ascencion. Knowing about his obsession with the medal and his hatred of humanity, they told their friends about him, which caused a lot of fear, as he hates humans all equally (except for his human adoptive daughter). Preparations were made in case he may caused a terrorization in the following days. Angered by this, he knew the best way to achieve his goals is to gain fellow allies, even if he doesn't like it because he hates everyone regardless of species.
  • Hearing about the existence of misanthropic, he wanted to ally with them to achieve his goals even furthur, but he is willing to ditch them if he felt that they served their purpose. While those misanthropic people like Shinobu Sensui and Lysandere are willing to team up with him thanks to sharing similar mindsets, they aren't sure if they should do it because what Chakal mostly seeks is the medal. Acnologia doesn't give two shits about him as he doesn't see him as someone willing to team up with.
  • Hearing about Chakal from his new friends, Hector doesn't love him for his misanthropy which means that the dead people couldn't stay in his Land of the Dead or his friends' Land of the Remembered. He is pretty proud upon hearing that his fate got him to sent to the Land of the Cursed. He's not obviously happy that he escaped from that realm by ascending into the Pantheon.
  • Pretty much, Chakal hates everything in the world, and the only things he ever loves and seeks is the Medal of Everlasting Life. He is so obsessed with it that he terrorizes the entire country of Mexico, which makes it impossible for him to be liked back by Mexicans, such as Speedy Gonzalez.
  • Calem and Serena don't like him for having a similar mindset that reminds them of Lysandere. Yusuke Urameshi and his allies don't love him for those same reasons, being similar to that of Shinobu and losing his sanity because of a single medal makes it worse. And while they don't consider as big of a threat as their enemy, they still want to keep an eye on him in case things go south.
  • A lot of goodhearted outlaws/bandits hate him for his misanthropy and seeing how he doesn't give a shit about anything else, they don't consider him an ideal bandit such as Vash the Stampede, Star-Lord, and Lucky Luke are willing to take him out if it means saving the world. Especially for the latter, as he abhors villains and thinks he's a danger among the community.
  • Handsome Jack hates Chakal due to being the Bandit King. This is because he believes that the bandits plagued Pandora and for their Ax-Crazy attitude and sees him as no better than them considering his mindset and actions. Chakal doesn't give a shit about him but if he interrupts his business, the bandit wouldn't hesitate to kill him.
  • Hob Gadling hates him in that the nedal that could give him immortality causes him to become so obsessed with it that he completely loses his sanity and seeks to destroy all mankind. Scathach is disgusted at him in that she gives him an another reason to regret her own immortality. Chiron doesn't like him either, in that he wastes his own life on becoming obsessed with something that could potentially endanger people around him.

Just a sad, lonely girl
DVB God of Dork Knights from Headquarters of the Illuminati Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
God of Dork Knights
#139508: Jun 18th 2019 at 2:40:59 PM

@patrickthekid Maybe explain the backstories of Jessica Drew (her injected with the Spider DNA, the evolved spider thing) and maybe have that serve as an odd friendhsip between her and Hawkman?

yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#139509: Jun 18th 2019 at 2:46:14 PM

First draft for the rework of Darkseid.

Darkseid, God of Dystopias That Justify the Means (Uxas, God of Tyranny/Evil, Dread Lord of Apokolips, Lord of the Omega Effect, Master of Darkness, Boss Dark Side, Blackheart the Deatheater)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/darkseid_dc.jpg
DARKSEID IS!
  • House change: Unchanged (Leadership)
  • [tup]:
  • Overdeity (also rules over the New Gods of Apokolips), though his avatars may vary in Rank (Usually at least Greater God)
  • Symbol: The Omega Symbol
  • Alignment: Lawful Evil personified
  • Portfolio: Omega Beams Which Never Miss because they can Lock-on to Targets and Bend Around Obstacles, The Omega Sanction, Anthropomorphic Personification of Tyranny, Abusive Parents, Archenemy of the New Gods of Genesis (Especially his Son,), and the Entire DC Universe, Genius Bruiser, The Dreaded God of Gods, Evil Overlord of the Crapsack World of Apokolips, Ax-Crazy Unstoppable Rage tempered by Enormous Self-Control, The Chessmaster, Loves Sitting In Others' Chairs
  • Domains: Evil, Tyranny, Anti-Life
  • Herald: The non-ascended denizens of Apokolips, including his Female Furies and parademons
  • High Priest: Nicodemus Archleone
  • Allies: Shao Kahn, Big Brother, Evil-aligned rich deities in the House of Commerce
  • Friendly Rival: Molag Bal
  • Rivals: Thanos, YHVH, Melkor
  • Enemies: EVERY Good-aligned deity from DC Comics (Notable examples include the New Gods of Genesis (Orion (His middle son), Mister Miracle and Big Barda, Izaya/Highfather) and the Justice League (Kal-El/Superman, Bruce Wayne/Batman, Diana of Themyscira/Wonder Woman, Kara Zor-El/Supergirl, Barry Allen/The Flash, Arthur Curry/Aquaman, Hal Jordan/Green Lantern)), the Avengers (especially Steve Rogers/Captain America, Thor, Clint Barton/Hawkeye), The Anti-Monitor, High Councilor Kal-El, Bowser, Miraak
  • Odd Friendship: Galactus
  • Opposes: Every Deity with free will in the Pantheon, the House of Music, Time-Related sub-houses in the House of Time And Space, Happiness, the Grand United Alliance of Chaos
  • Interested in: The Grand United Alliance of Law and the Grand United Alliance of Evil
  • Opposed by: Deities associated with mythological pantheons (Most notably those of Greek origin)
  • Pities: the House of Opposing Fate
  • Amused by: Wade Wilson/Deadpool
  • Annoyed By: Santa Claus
  • After becoming aware of the Pantheon, Darkseid met with Miraak (who, of course, arrived at his temple to find him sitting on his couch) to make a deal to get himself into the Pantheon in exchange for the chance to experience unimaginable power. Believing that this power would give him the strength necessary to take over the GUAE, Miraak quickly accepted and got him ascended. When he went to get what he was promised, Darkseid merely grinned, thanked him for his effort, and used his Omega Beams to disintegrate him.
    Darkseid: Though your world will suffer slowly, I grant you a quick death.
  • Born the youngest son of the God of Evil, Yuga Khan, and his wife, Heggra, Uxas abhorred the Old Gods, who required belief and worship of mortals to sustain themselves and yet cared little, if anything, for their followers. Aspiring to usurp them, Uxas provoked them into fighting amongst themselves by spreading falsehoods and rumors to them and, when they were weakened and dying in the ensuing conflict, stealing their powers away, eventually killing his father and stealing his power as well. After a fight with his older brother Izaya ended up destroying their world and splitting it in two, Uxas established himself as the ruler of his half, Apokolips, as the New God of Tyranny... Darkseid!
    • As the God of Tyranny, Darkseid is obsessed with gaining control of everything and everyone, whether by breaking them... or other means. YHVH and Melkor have both expressed interest in recruiting him into the GUAL and GUAE, respectively, but Darkseid would only agree to join if they stepped down and deferred leadership to him. Needless to say, that's not happening. From Apokolips, he plots to eventually depose them and consolidate their Alliances into a part of his empire to take over the other Alliances, starting with the GUAC, which he loathes as the antithesis of his very existence, and, in time, the rest of the Pantheon. Such is the will of Darkseid!
  • As a New God, Darkseid's incorporeal true form lies outside of the multiverse, existing only in Fourth World. He creates weaker physical incarnations of himself to interact with beings beneath him. This means that, unlike the majority of deities, Darkseid's memory is completely unaffected by retcons, both small and large. As such he possesses knowledge of every iteration of the Trope Pantheon since its beginning, and every iteration of TV Tropes. It's unsure what, if anything, he's planning with this information.
    • Darkseid reaffirmed his place as a Multiversal threat in the New 52, with one documented story of his war on Earth-2 revealing he is in possession of the Anti-Life Equation, having retained it from Final Crisis, and another revealing he had been systematically slaying the Supermen of the Multiverse for unknown purpose, even making a clone of one of them to lead his armies on Earth-2 in place of the defiant Steppenwolf. He is now powerful to the extent that the Anti-Monitor had to build up strength for the expressed purpose of fighting him. The possession of the Anti-Life Equation has allowed Darkseid to claim a seat for himself in the Main House, which puts him within striking distance of the Anti-Monitor, who he's been itching to have a rematch with. His move to the Main House was both because he came to earn the position, and in order for the powerful deities there to keep his power in check. This does not make anyone more comfortable.
    • What's even worse, he has allied with Shao Kahn in a certain universe and both have the ability to perform a Fusion Dance which results in... Dark Kahn.
  • Since draining the powers of and killing Zeus (and a number of his demigod children), and attempting to do the same to the rest of the Greek Pantheon, to return to his original self after being turned into a baby * , gods who are members of various mythological pantheons and those related to those gods (particularly if they're Greek) are not fond of Darkseid. Wonder Woman and Hercules (who was one of the aforementioned demigods killed by Darkseid's daughter, Grail), in particular, have sworn vengeance on him for that act. His ability to drain and absorb the power of other gods makes him a massive threat to every single deity in the Pantheon, possibly even more so than he was outside of the Pantheon. However, when against beings lesser than himself, he prefers to force them into serving him, if possible, rather than kill them.
  • He has a few plans for changing some of the Houses and sub-houses after he takes over the Pantheon. All the time-related sub-houses of Time And Space and the House of Music would have to go, as Darkseid doesn't like how many things can go wrong with Time Travel, and he doesn't like being reminded of that time when he was defeated by Superman singing. Then the Happiness sub-house in Emotion (with special care to kill Joy and Pollyanna) to get rid of all happiness in the Pantheon. Heroes, of course, don't want to forget that one, for obvious reasons. To most people's surprise, he expects to keep the House of Opposing Fate around despite his hatred of it, as he considers free will to be a terrible thing and can't understand why anyone would want to live with it, so he sometimes likes to use it as a form of punishment.
  • His willingness to use any method to gain control of everyone and everything has gotten him supporters in Big Brother and Molag Bal. His goal of Dystopia perfectly aligns with Big Brother's, and as Darkseid's ally, Big Brother uses his propaganda in a similar manner as Darkseid's servant, Glorious Godfrey, convincing deities to turn against their Alliances and spreading distrust and despair throughout the Pantheon. Darkseid considers Molag Bal to be similar to his Master Torturer, Desaad, except more ambitious and competent, which is quite the compliment from someone like Darkseidnote . To wit, Molag Bal finds himself quite at home in Apokolips, and Darkseid in turn finds Molag Bal's realm of Coldharbour to be a very wonderful place. Although they acknowledge that fulfilling their ambitions will eventually lead to them fighting for dominance, and have prepared for the day that comes, they enjoy working together for the time being.
    • Captain America, much like Darkseid's adopted son, Mister Miracle, champions the fight for freedom and liberty that America represents, making him a natural enemy to the evil god whose tyrannous nature makes him the literal antithesis of all that Captain America fights for.
  • Has been known to manifest himself in the House of Commerce as "Boss Dark Side", the owner and operator of his personal club, the Dark Side Club, which appeals to the richest (and most morally corrupt) deities in the Pantheon, offering the opportunity to gamble on fights between different deities, who he pits against each other by temporarily warping their minds them with the Anti-Life Equation. If two deities have battled each other outside Wiz and Boomstick's simulations, odds are good they're matches set up in the Dark Side Club.
  • Despite the reputation Deadpool seems to have with most villains, Darkseid seems to not mind him much and can tolerate much of what the Merc with the Mouth has to say. Perhaps this is because Deadpool reminds Darkseid of Ambush Bug, someone who, like Deadpool, also breaks the fourth wall and is someone Darkseid openly has fun spending time with.
  • Views Galactus as a worthy opponent, as the Devourer of Worlds is one of the few who can tank his Omega Beams (though he insists he was just getting warmed up). Apokolips has no life force for Galactus to feed on, so it holds no value to him. Darkseid has attempted to convince Galactus to aid him in taking over the Pantheon, but so far Galactus isn't terribly interested. His curiosity was piqued when Darkseid told him of New Genesis, which did present a very appetizing prospect. Highfather and the other New Gods on New Genesis did not appreciate the trouble that brought.
  • Finds Santa Claus incredibly annoying, because he somehow manages to break through his defenses on Apokolips for the sole purpose of giving him coal every single year on Christmas. Of course, the reason Santa Claus does this is because Darkseid is at the very top of his naughty list, and still is, even compared to the rest of the Pantheon, so Santa is obviously not too fond of him either.
  • Bowser doesn't get along with Darkseid. While the two are rulers with incredible power and a massive fear factor backing them up, Bowser dearly loves his son and is openly and genuinely respected by his troops and supporters. In stark contrast, Darkseid despises his sons, Orion, Kalibak, and his adopted son, Scott Free AKA Mister Miracle, and has no problem killing them while also subjugating his followers using terror to force them to revere him.
    • As much as he hates his sons, he does have a strange caring for his oldest son, Kalibak, which is more fueled by the memory of his mother, Darkseid's first and only love. For this reason, he hates High Councilor Kal-El for killing Kalibak almost as much as he hates the High Councilor's mainstream counterpart.
  • Also has a spot in the Main House.

Edited by yugi195 on Jun 18th 2019 at 6:01:12 AM

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louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#139510: Jun 18th 2019 at 2:50:50 PM

Guys, can I add a picture of the Servant selves of Dr. Jekyll and Hyde because Composite Character and all that.

Just a sad, lonely girl
Siegfried1337 Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard from the Ashes Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#139511: Jun 18th 2019 at 3:09:33 PM

[up] That could work. Also there are some issues with spoiler-tagging Chakal

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SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#139512: Jun 18th 2019 at 3:47:26 PM

[up][up][up] add the quote "For Darkseid!" to the end of it.

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RonnieR15 Ronnie from Earth Since: May, 2013
Ronnie
#139513: Jun 18th 2019 at 3:50:12 PM

Simple repost for more votes.

Potential House(s): Light and Brightness, Body Images

Votes: 3 (Ascends the 6/25)

Adara, Goddess of Spark Sprites (Adara The Sprite, The Sultry Little Sprite)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/adara_1.png
Adara in Cutscenes. 
  • Rank: Quasideity
  • Symbol: A spark of light with wings.
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Absolute Cleavage, Damsel in Distress, Fairy Companion, Fairy Sexy, The Heart, Leotard of Power, Most Common Super Power, Mystical White Hair, Pretend Prejudice, Super Gullible, Unobtainium
  • Domains: Sprites, Zeenium, Freedom, Rebellion, Teamwork
  • Herald: Other Sprites
  • Followers: Fireflies, Pyreflies, many fairies in Hyrule
  • Allies: Cael Cyndar, Thrall, the entire House of Fairies, Head Pixie, Jorgen Von Strangle, Wanda, many in the House of Dragons, Smaug, Optimus Prime, Link, Princess Zelda, Jake Sully, Neytiri
  • Enemies: Miraak, Denzel Crocker, Gul'dan, Garrosh Hellscream, Ganondorf, Miles Quaritch
  • Headbutting Heroes: Timmy Turner, Cosmo
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Navi
  • Distrusts: The Dovahkiin, Frankenstein's Monster
  • Possible Alternate Company Equivalent: Sparx
  • Respected by: Paarthurnax
  • Respects: Paarthurnax
  • Opposes: Smaug
  • Originally entered the Pantheon as the Herald of her friend Cael Cyndar, a fact she finds ironic since she saved him and largely orchestrated Dragon Revolution. While in the Pantheon she mostly worked under Cael collecting information and then using it to help them in their goals. In fact it was during one of her information gathering ventures it was discovered by those in the Main House that she was a kind of Spark Fairy, often appearing as little more than a ball of light or sparks with wings from a distance. It was with that fact they she would become the Goddess of Spark Fairies.
  • Presumably; like most of the sprites in her world, she was a slave to the Orc Bureaucracy, however she has neither confirmed or denied this though. It is known though at some point she met the orc monk Galthran Etruk and worked together to free a dragon, in this case a dragon named Cael Cyndar.
    • This was done by Adara giving Zeeniumnote  to a unconscious Cael in Desmurian Ty. Doing this caused Cael to regain his powers and allowed him to escape.
      • Ironically shortly after Cael's escape from Desmurian Ty she was captured and then saved by the dragon. She then managed to recruit him to her cause by revealing how he achieved his own freedom and through this alliance the two became fast friends.
  • While working with Cael against the Orc Bureaucracy Adara's main job was to collect information and provide Cael with missions.
    • She also occasionally help in transporting various items such as dragon eggs and gold.
  • Is actually capable of carrying a dragon egg, despite being about 1/3 the size of one.
  • Though she was Gullible enough to believe that Galthran Etruk was a orc ally she no long believes that this is possible, at least with the orcs from her own universe. Thankfully she knows that not all orcs are bad and actually gets along with some of the good orcs in the Pantheon like Thrall and tries to keep Cael from trying to kill them.
    • Though only sometimes a orc Adara doesn't trust the Dovahkiin due to having multiple different counterparts. Through the Dovahkiin she also learned about Miraak and quickly became he's enemy due to the ancient alliance sprites have with dragons.
  • Is on good terms with the entirety of the House of Fairies, even The Fairy Godmother. This is due to her work in her world with the Sprite Emancipation. She also has a good relationship with various other fairies outside of that House for much of the same reasons.
    • She does find Navi annoying though.
  • Due to her work in the Dragon Revolution and due to the sprites from her world being ancient allies to dragon kind she quickly became friends with the non-evil aligned members of the House of Dragons.
  • Finds herself comparing Spyro and Sparx to Cael and herself for some reason.
  • Is greatly disturbed with Frankenstein's Monster, having seen something similar in the form of one of Galthran Etruk's unfinished experiments and as such finds herself incapable of trusting him.
  • Has a lot of respect for the old dragon Paarthurnax who sided with the ancient Nords instead of his own largely malevolent race. This respect is even returned by Paarthurnax for all the work she's done in the Dragon Revolution and Sprite Emancipation.
  • Though she knows that it is sometimes necessary she hates working with Timmy Turner and Cosmo, the two are normally just to chaotic and even stupid to work with and sometimes even be near. The same can not be said for Wanda though who's at least sane and is someone she can enjoy the company of.
    • Through them she also made enemies with Denzel Crocker, who she sees as a enemy of fairies everywhere.
  • When Optimus Prime heard of the crimes caused by the Orc Bureaucracy he offered Adara his assistance on the grounds that, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings". A statement she agrees with fully.
  • Though Adara is very much against the various thefts Smaug has done against the good and neutral beings in the Pantheon, she is not above using his greed to her own advantage by revealing to him which of her enemies have treasure and where it might be. She is; however, out of fear not bold enough to lie to him though.
  • Finds the actions of Gul'dan and Garrosh Hellscream horrifying, even compared to the actions of the orcs of the Orc Bureaucracy, for not even the Bureaucracy would would cause the same kind of destruction as them.
  • Though Adara doesn't quite understand how the relationship between the fairies of Hyrule, Link and Princess Zelda works, she does; however, acknowledge that is somehow overall very positive. As such she tries to be friendly and helpful towards them, they still better not try to bottle her.
    • Naturally this relationship puts her against Ganondorf. It also doesn't help that not only does he sometimes look like a orc, but that his underlings are also often very orc-like.
  • Thanks to her close ties with Cael Cyndar and also having the domain of Zeenium; which is a type of Unobtainium, she has become a target of the Colonel, Miles Quaritch. She quickly became allies with Jake Sully and Neytiri due to their history with Cael in the pantheon and mutual enemy.

Edited by RonnieR15 on Jun 18th 2019 at 7:25:19 AM

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#139514: Jun 18th 2019 at 3:59:22 PM

[up]Changed my [tdown] to a [tup].

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#139515: Jun 18th 2019 at 4:15:55 PM

@ Lepus: [tup]

What else should I add to Ruffles the Ragecat?

Dex-Starr, God of Abandoned Pets In A Box (originally Dexter, Red Lantern Of Space Sector 2814, Rage Cat, Ruffles, Pukecat)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/3989544_1289137_dex_starr_9_8.jpg

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Jun 19th 2019 at 3:44:38 AM

RonnieR15 Ronnie from Earth Since: May, 2013
Ronnie
#139516: Jun 18th 2019 at 4:20:07 PM

[up][up] Thank you!

yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#139517: Jun 18th 2019 at 4:22:48 PM

[up][up] I think you mean for that red link (irony) to be HairTriggerTemper. Also, would this pic work better for him? [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/3989544_1289137_dex_starr_9.jpg]]

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/3989544_1289137_dex_starr_9.jpg

Edited by yugi195 on Jun 18th 2019 at 6:23:00 AM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#139518: Jun 18th 2019 at 4:45:17 PM

I remember saying Pyra/Mythra would fit Sword of Plot Advancement. She is a blade and central to the story. Can't get more straightforward than that

Uni cat
r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#139519: Jun 18th 2019 at 4:51:22 PM

The Lepus makes others leap in terror...probably.

Siegfried1337 Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard from the Ashes Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#139520: Jun 18th 2019 at 4:55:34 PM

[up][up]Sure, why not. Almost done finishing that story I planned to do...

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nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#139521: Jun 18th 2019 at 5:50:07 PM

Do you know anybody whose plans for a coup involve doing it peacefully, or at least without bloodshed involved?

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#139522: Jun 18th 2019 at 5:53:49 PM

Fixed Dex-Starr

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#139523: Jun 18th 2019 at 5:53:59 PM

I guess Rex could be included alongside Pyra/Mythra

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yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#139524: Jun 18th 2019 at 6:04:56 PM

[up][up] Sorry, I missed it the first time reading, but you might want to put "[[" before "Red Daughter of Krypton of the bad history the Superman family and Red Lanterns have had]]".

Edited by yugi195 on Jun 18th 2019 at 8:11:38 AM

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CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#139525: Jun 18th 2019 at 6:08:02 PM

[up][up][up][up] Would Velvet Revolution be something you're looking for? Check there.

Here's another idea I had months back that I pondered on, but I would like to know what everyone thinks. Open to suggestions and counters.

Nova and the Sumeragi SwordsmenMembers , Grand Heralds of Vehicular Theme Naming

  • Reasoning: Their theme naming comes from cars. Supercars, or luxury cars to be exact, regardless of changes. As they are all affiliated with Sumeragi, a MegaCorp that is in control of the nation the games are set in, and as Adepts who are not preyed upon by them it could be reflective of being the privileged few allowed to stand by the conglomerate's side.
    • Nova/Shiden: Chevrolet Nova and Mooncraft Shiden.
    • Merak: Maserati Merak.
    • Jota: Lamborghini Jota.
    • Viper/Daytona: Dodge Viper and Shelby Daytona.
    • Carrera: Porsche Carrera.
    • Elise: Lotus Elise.
    • Stratos: Lancia Stratos

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.

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