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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#137701: May 23rd 2019 at 11:55:57 PM

TPPR 10: I added that detail that you mentioned. I actually didn't know about that.

If people are okay with Qin Shi Huang Di getting The Emperor, then I'll make a profile for him with that trope.

Is there anything more that should be added to Billy?

Henry McCarty, God Of "The Kid" Alias (Billy the Kid, William H. Bonney, Archer, Herman the Kid)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/220px_billy_the_kid_corrected.jpg
An enhanced photo of Billy the Kid, circa 1880
Click here to see him as an Archer Servant
  • Adopted from: RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
  • [tup]s: 2 (RJ-CLOVIS-93, Muundeis)
  • House: Nicknames and Renames (House of Naming)
  • Demigod; Lesser God as a Servant
  • Symbol: His hat and gun
  • Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
  • Portfolio: Outlaw, Famously known as Billy the Kid, His life has more fiction in it than facts, Has multiple legends surrounding him that he's not actually murdered at that time, Combat Pragmatist, Escape Artist, Guile Hero, The Gunslinger, Killed by his former associate in the name of justice, Sudden Name Change
  • Domains: Outlaws, Guns, Legends, Wild West
  • High Priest: "Tennessee Kid" Cooper
  • Allies: Ritsuka Fujimaru, Bill and Ted, Vash the Stampede, Rushuna Tendou, Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid, Takeru Tenkuji/Kamen Rider Ghost
  • Rivals: John Marston, Erron Black, The Man With No Name, Star Lord
  • Worthy Opponent: Lucky Luke (one-sided in Billy's part), Jesse McCree
  • Enemies: Yosemite Sam, Hol Horse, the House of Justice, Akechi Mitsuhide, Marcus Junius Brutus, Fin Shepard, Dracula
  • Opposes: Lisa Simpson, Homer Simpson
  • Despite his life containing more fiction in it than reality and living a short life, Billy the Kid became one of the most famous outlaws in American history. He started his life of crime at the age of 15 by committing theft. He became famous across The Wild West thanks to the Lincoln County War. He had bounties that surrounds him and was able to escape jail multiple times. He was then eventually killed by his former associate, Patt Garrett. Billy's legend became a worldwide phenomenon when his murderer wrote a sensational biography ghostwrited by Ash Upson. The urban legends surrounding him were inspired by the biography itself.
  • The person who vouched for his ascencion is the Master of Chaldea. The outlaw thanked for vouching it, not believing that his Master will do something like this. The Master responded back that he has faith in him, just like how he has faith in every Servant that he summoned and that he does it to see them again. In return, Billy promises to fight by his side once again if he wants to.
  • Seeing that the real Billy the Kid ascended, Lucky Luke wanted to bring him to justice. The two ended up having a duel, while it is a tie, the outlaw is so impressed at the selfless cowboy, seeing that he is so good at everything he does, that he started to consider him as an Worthy Opponent rather than a sworn enemy. The heroic cowboy doesn't seem to return the sentiment however and still wants to arrest him as the outlaw still wants to pursue his life at crime.
  • He considers John Marston as a fellow rival due to being a former outlaw who is a great gunslinger and horse rider. That said, he does sympathized with the former outlaw when he hears how his life as an outlaw is All for Nothing and he performed a Heroic Sacrifice so thst his wife and son will live in peace.
  • Became enemies with Yosemite Sam, suprisingly. This is because he actually started to obey the law on not shooting with his guns in The Looney Tunes Show. This is made even worse when he actually became police officer one time. Seeing that Billy the Kid would rather stay as an outlaw in his entire life and wanting to escape jail all the time, yeah, the two would never stay friends.
  • Well it makes sense that he is a mercenary and is Only in It for the Money, but Billy doesn't like Hol Horse because he lacks a lot of loyalty for Dio that his associates have and how he repays the Crusaders by stealing their the one time they saved him from Enya's wrath. He also laughts at the fact that despite the fact he can control the direction at the bullets, he is so bad at aiming that he actually accidentally shot himself twice.
  • He established a rivalry with other cowboys/outlaws such as Erron Black and The Man With No Name. For the former, he is impressed with him that despite the fact he lives in a world where almost everyone has some sort of special power and is just a Badass Normal, he is able to hold off on his own. For the latter, upon hearing the latter, he wanted to hear sbout his travels seeing that he is constantly adventuring, wants to know about his duels and how he fights with his weapons, and is not disappointed. He established a Worthy Opponent relationship with Jesse McCree seeing that he is a former outlaw who Took a Level in Idealism and now wants to fight for good and justice. Seeing that he doesn't any of these acts yet, the outlaw wants to see how he will succeed on his job.
  • He knew he should be expecting this but he never thought he would meet an intergalactic outlaw like Star-Lord. He wanted to know more about his exploits in space after hearing about his misadventures. He could easily relate to him on what it feels like to lose a mother because of a deadly disease and their father leaving them behind (though it's never known if it happened in real one). Star-Lord establishes a rivalry with him due to becoming more heroic later on and having more standards and because they are both outlaws, they couldn't become enemies.
  • The only gun-wielders he became truly friends with in the Pantheon is Vash and Rushuna because they are so kind to him that he couldn't bring himself to hate them as well as people comparing his Archer self to Vash. Billy is amused at Vash's antics to prove himself to be an idiot man so that people wouldn't suspect he's actually a dangerous outlaw in his world and Rushuna using her breasts by hugging her enemies as her negotiation/combat technique which he finds weird overall but most of all destroying their enemies by not killing them at all. Overall, he considers them to be good friends to hang out and have drinks with and if they ever fought, it will end the moment the fight starts.
  • He also became friends with an another outlaw named Sundance Kid because he considers him to be too likable that he couldn't beung himself to establish a rivalry with him. Though Sundance Kid, he introduced him to his partner, Butch Cassidy and they also become terrific friends. Billy is curious to know what is their eventual fate and if they ever make it out alive or dead although the duo don't want to respond to that which is completely fine to the young outlaw.
  • Of course Billy the Kid is enemies with the House of Justice for obvious reasons. Seeing that he always jail with no detailed explanation makes it hard for the police to let him remain in jail and considers him to be one of their greatest targets when they realized how great of an Escape Artist he is. He doesn't even accept any of their offers of letting him get out of jail after he got arrested as that happened to him one time.
  • Ironically, his former associate Patt Garrett killed him in the name of justice. Due to this experience, he hates those that betrayed their friends, even if there are good reasons of doing that. He hates Brutus when he assassinated Caesar when the latter is being such a good friend to the former when he actually sparred him and give him a position as a governor. This is also the same with Akechi Mitsuhide when he killed Nobunaga, when he is considered as one of the warlord's most trusted vassal before their downfall. Even if he is unsure what is the cause of the betrayal, Akechi got on the bad side of the infamous outlaw.
  • In Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, Billy is the first historical figure to be "borrowed" by the duo for their history presentation. He encountered them during the salloon and asked them to play poker with two other dudes, which they happily accepted. Though Billy is caught cheating when he gsve Ted three aces. Fortunately, they managed to save Billy in time and sent him to the time-travelling booth. He continued to travel with them to "collect" more historical figures and formed a friendship with Socrates of all people and he and the other historical figures managed to perform the historical presentation in time before they all went back in their time periods. Seeing that he ascended, Bill and Ted are excited to see him again and the three actively started hanging out with each other again
  • In The Last Sharknado: It's About Time, Fin Shepard and his group accidentally helped him escape arrest by having Fin get arrested instead. Hearing that they are from the future, he wanted to travel to the future with them as he wanted to continue his theft in the modern world, believing that there are more exciting things to steal. When they gladly refused, the outlaw and Fin have a duel, before being eaten by a shark. Seeing that the latter is in the Pantheon, the two remain enemies because of that encounter, with Fin keeping an eye on Billy when he committed considering what he heard for his reasons to travel to his time.
  • In one Treehouse of Horror episode of The Simpsons, Lisa forced a gun ban after seeing Billy the Kid's grave with his real name in it with the quote "I dream of a world without guns" without knowing who he actually is. Billy and the other outlaw cohorts came back as zombies and rule over Springfield since they are the only ones with guns. Professor Frink sent Homer back in time to stop the gun ban from happening which Homer did by telling the citizens of Springfield to shoot at the zombies' graves. The zombies come back, but they eventually run away from the gunfire. As a result of this experience, Billy the Kid developed a bad relationship with both Lisa Simpson and Homer Simpson not lovong the former for the gun ban (even if she has an excuse that she didn't know is false) and the latter for shooting at his grave.
  • In Kamen Rider Ghost, he is one of Takeru's fifteen Eyecons, based on different historical figures. In this form, while transformed into Kamen Rider Ghost, he is armed with Gan Gun Saber and Bat Clock, both in Gun Mode. Combining those will create Rifer Mode. Because of this, the Kamen Rider and the outlaw got along with relative ease, with the former receiving sympathy from the latter upon hearing his fate of dying when 99 days have passed and Billy is so glad to see that he got his happy ending that he didn't commit any crimes for a day.
  • In a weird alternate universe, Dracula plans to take Billy the Kid's fiance, Betty Bentley, to turn her into a vampire to become his bride. Also, Billy is such a good guy in that universe that he teamed up with a sheriff and a doctor. He was able to kill Dracula using the silver scapel given to him by the doctor. It ended with Billy the Kid and Betty presumably living happily ever after. Although it does take place in an alternate universe, when they hear about this, Dracula and Billy became sworn enemies because of how Billy killed the vampire with Billy is willing to kill the vampire if he is interrupting on his business.

Edited by louisent31 on May 24th 2019 at 2:57:55 AM

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#137702: May 24th 2019 at 12:25:46 AM

First draft. I'll likely post it again only after I have added some character-specific flavor texts.

When will the Fahrenheit 451 deities come up, if they aren't there already?

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#137703: May 24th 2019 at 1:02:14 AM

Here's my draft for Experiment 627. What do you think?

Experiment 627, God of One Shot Characters (Evile)

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  • House: Character Actions (House of Characterization)
  • Intermediate God, possibly Greater if it wasn't for his Achilles' Heel
  • Symbol: The number "627" in bright red
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Big Little "Cousin", Only Appears In One Episode Of The Series, One-Word Vocabulary (becomes Wicked Cultured in the anime), Card-Carrying Villain, Incapable Of A Heel–Face Turn, The Strongest Experiment Of Them All, Always Someone Better, For the Evulz, The Bully, Red And Evil To Stitch's Blue And Good, Retractable Appendages (Including A Second Head), Superpower Lottery, Achilles' Heel In His Laughter
  • Domains: Evil, Power, Genetic Experiments, Rivals, One-upmanship
  • Allies: Leroy, Melkor and the Grand United Alliance of Evil, Syndrome, Cell, Toon Patrol, The Martians (Mars Attacks), Dr Gero, Aku, King Ghidorah
  • Rivals: Stitch, Shadow the Hedgehog, Mewtwo, Infinite
  • Enemies: Lilo and Stitch, the rest of the experiments, the Grand United Alliance of Good, Iroque, The Phantom Thieves of Heart, Satania, Syndrome, Merged Zamasu, Discord, Samurai Jack, X, Mega Man, heroic gods in general
  • Opposed by: Steve Irwin, Rubeus Hagrid
  • Amused by: Satania, Zim, Roger Smith
  • Fears: The Joker, surprisingly enough
  • Stitch is Jumba's most famous experiment, but not the last he'd make. In part to give him a reality check, on Earth Jumba created Experiment 627. He has all of Stitch's strengths, none of the weaknesses and powers of 19-20 other experiments. After being activated 627 made short work of Stitch, however having extra everything of Stitch included an extra sense of humor. He ended up in a laughing fit that allowed him to be dehydrated. He later appeared in the anime, able to say more than just "evil". Both times, he only appeared once in the show, but left an impact as being Always Someone Better to Stitch.
  • Unlike his predecessors and presumably like Leroy, 627 can not be turned good. He resisted any means of being tamed by Steve Irwin or Rubeus Hagrid, despite their success at befriending ferocious creatures. And as he is completely aware of his villainy and born like that, he has no Palace for the Phantom Thieves to change his heart.
  • While 627 can't truly be turned to good, the Indigo Tribe believes that they could brainwash him into being good. It's also believed that Discord would be able to Discord him into a pure good experiment, much like Experiment 262 aka Ace. Experiment 627 is doing whatever he can to avoid getting close to them so they can test their hypotheses.
  • When asked who released 627 into the pantheon, Melkor let out a chuckle. He likes the idea of an experiment that's incorrigibly evil and better than Stitch, regarding him as one of his "pets". He even likes to give 627 a popular Fan Nickname; Evile. 627 was intrigued by the Dark Lord's ambition, however he's a bully at the core and will ruin even bad moments For the Evulz. He only serves the GUAE because it amuses him, and has made it very clear only he gets to beat Stitch. He saved Stitch and Angel's lives because of that, the closest thing he's ever done to being good.
  • 627 searched for gods who's ambition and cruelty he respected. He wasn't pleased to see Gantu had undergone a Heel–Face Turn, as did 625. Leroy was at least still a clearly evil experiment, and 627 has taken a shine to his "younger cousin", though was quick to remind him that as Leroy is a clone of Stitch in powers, he is still the superior experiment. Otherwise, he's the closest thing 627 has to a friend, much to the chagrin of the other experiments. Unlike Leroy, 627 has yet to find a reason to care about Dr Hamsterviel yet.
  • 627 was interested in Syndrome. As he's full out on the whole supervillain role and fighting against superheroes, he wants to join in and cause general havoc. Of course, he is just as likely to take the wind out of his speeches, but otherwise finds what he does interesting. He though he might find a kindred spirit in Infinite, however they ended up in conflict because Infinite's ego got hurt with 627 constantly saying he was stronger. They thought, and while Infinite had the upper hand 627's faster than a supercomputer brain let him think his way out of the illusions and beat Infinite. Not that he didn't enjoy his wicked ways, mind you.
  • Considers himself a sort of Ultimate Lifeform, being the strongest of the experiments. Cell tried to correct him, but while he is quick to remind 627 who's stronger, he likes 627's cruel and mischievous streak. Cell did invade a TV studio and announce the Cell Games to basically Troll everyone, after all. Trying to prove his superiority, Experiment 627 has faced off against fellow genetic experiments Shadow and Mewtwo.
  • Whenever he finds someone in a humiliating position, 627 laughs his ass off. He knows his laughter is a flaw, but can't help it. He likes seeing Satania humiliated to be utterly hilarious. He also finds the idiotic ways of Zim and how he fails to be funny, as he does Roger's Comedic Sociopathy. He finds the Martians from Mars Attacks funny, and likes their evil.
  • Surprisingly, he's actually afraid of the Joker. This is due to the Joker Venom, which given his increased humor is kryptonite even with his superpowered abilities that might make him normally resist or be immune to the stuff. He can relate to Toon Patrol since if they don't keep a lid on their laughter, it ends up killing them. He relates to Ghidorah's giggling as well.
  • Zamasu regards Experiment 627 as an abomination, stating that his existence reflects some of the worst of man's sinfulness in creating things and how they use knowledge. 627 only laughed at this, as even he is well-aware of how ridiculous that statement is from someone as destructive and wrathful as Zamasu. At least 627 has the excuse of being created evil. Dr Gero took much more of a shine to the experiment, due to the potential he has and how he was created to be the most powerful experiment. 627 plays along for now, curious as to where his revenge against Goku might go.
  • Being pure evil, Experiment 627 is vulnerable to Samurai Jack's blade. It also makes him a source of interest for Aku, who 627 likes him due to how funny and evil he is. Experiment 627 tends to bother heroic deities for something to do, like targeting X and Mega Man due to their ability to wield multiple powers. Mainly because he wants to test his many different powers against them.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#137704: May 24th 2019 at 1:21:28 AM

[up] Don't you think that One-Shot Character is bit too much of a broad trope?

Also before anyone gets to me, I was sleep first time (I think) this guy was brought up.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Siegfried1337 Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard from the Ashes Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
#137705: May 24th 2019 at 1:44:39 AM

Just visited Camilla's sandbox... And, she's gone!

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louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#137707: May 24th 2019 at 2:21:50 AM

So I'll say this again one more time, does anybody have a problem with Qin Shi Huang taking The Emperor? Is it because he's controversial with a lot of Alternative Character Interpretation (I'm suptised that there are actually people have different opinions of him because his page actually says so), the trope is taken because I don't see it being taken but I might missed it, or if it is taken, is the trope too universal historically and fictionally to give him that trope?

Edited by louisent31 on May 24th 2019 at 5:28:20 PM

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Siegfried1337 Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard from the Ashes Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#137709: May 24th 2019 at 2:29:54 AM

[up][up] [tup]

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nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
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#137710: May 24th 2019 at 2:33:17 AM

@Sieg: What do you mean she's gone? I can still see her sandbox content.

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#137711: May 24th 2019 at 2:44:32 AM

Just to let you know, we did delete Kim Jong Il profile.

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#137712: May 24th 2019 at 3:02:24 AM

[up]Oh. Is it because he's too controversial because this is North Korea we're talking about. Should I be cautious when making his profile? I did get three approvals to make him.

Edited by louisent31 on May 24th 2019 at 6:03:58 PM

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#137713: May 24th 2019 at 3:15:45 AM

Tell the truth, asked a Mod whether its a good idea.

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#137714: May 24th 2019 at 3:21:44 AM

Do you mean you asked a mod or louisent should ask a mod?

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louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#137715: May 24th 2019 at 3:22:52 AM

[up][up]Okay, I'll do that before I will eventually make him.

Sorry about this because I didn't do it earlier but I also wanted to do an another nomination again because I just thought about this recently. I wanted to nominate Rama and Sita for Engagement Challenge. Long story short, Janak, Sita's father, orders an archery contest to see if whoever could lift and string Shiva's bow will be able to marry his daughter. Rama was able to succeed doing that and so he married Sita and also won her heart. And based on the short version of the epic that I read while I was in school, I can tell they are pretty much in love with each other and are faithful to one another. I think it's fair to nominate them both for the trope since Sita is the one who the challenger has to win if they successfully did the challenge and Rama is able to do that and is able to marry her.

But I'll start making their profile a few weeks after Lostbelt 4's release because since the location is India, I wanted to know if Rama and Sita will make an appearance and that Sita will finally become a Servant to Chaldea and reunite with Rama at last!!!

At this point, I'll probably just make a trend of me doing profiles of the real life versions of the Servants in the Fate series. For all I know, I might probably adopt Skadi because I said so!!!

Edited by louisent31 on May 24th 2019 at 8:15:04 PM

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#137716: May 24th 2019 at 3:46:47 AM

[nja]

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Dec 15th 2020 at 10:46:10 PM

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Shocking Gun!
#137718: May 24th 2019 at 5:11:47 AM

Just to voice my opinion, I am fine if Hitler Rants!Hitler returns. As for the real one, I don't necessarily want to get into it. Though as a side note, Osamu Tezuka wrote a manga about three different Adolfs during the WWII era, one being the one you know.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
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#137719: May 24th 2019 at 6:30:10 AM

Forgot to add Kung Kuhrer to the list of names

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.
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Chronicle Magician
#137720: May 24th 2019 at 6:36:26 AM

[nja]

Edited by yugi195 on May 24th 2019 at 8:38:13 AM

In another few hours, the sun will rise.
Patrickthekid Since: Sep, 2015
#137721: May 24th 2019 at 6:43:53 AM

These two profiles ascend later tonight.

Satine and Christian, Divine Duo of Selfless Breakups

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From left to right: Satine, Christian
  • Potential House: Narrative
  • Theme Song: Come What May
  • Quasideities
  • Symbol: The Moulin Rogue sign
  • Alignment: Chaotic Good, formerly Chaotic Neutral (Satine), Neutral Good (Christian
  • Portfolios: Starving Artist, Both Serve as Fanservice, Follows The Plot of Dramedies, ultimately she died in his arms
  • Domains: Good, Love, Song, Death
  • Allies: Aphrodite, Ichiro Sato and Ryoko Sato, Tony and Maria, Jack Dawson
  • Enemies: Ato-ko Shirogane, Dr. Frank-n-Furter
  • Opposes: Lezard Valeth, Cal Hockley, Inspector Javert
  • Pities: Rose Bukater, Jean Valjean
  • Not So Different from: Romeo and Juliet
  • The House of Love turned to the streets of 19th century France to the story of Christian, who told the story of a Dramedy through the means of a flashback. It told of the time when he entered Paris as a naive poet striving to make it big. It was there that he was drawn to the Moulin Rouge, a nightclub/brothel that was the hottest sell in the city. There, he met the star attraction, a High-Class Call Girl named Satine. He was instantly smitten. What followed was a tale of wonderful and tragic woe, ultimately ending in her death due to tuberculosis. The house took interest in the story, particularly when she rejected his proposition so that her jealous suitor Duke wouldn't go after him. With that story in mind, the deities there decided to bring not only Christian but also Satine. Finally together, the couple settled down to have their happy ending.
  • The couple draw a big crowd from the House of Music as well. The movie is believed to have helped revive the Musical film genre. It didn't matter that many of their songs were a mix-mash of cover songs fro the modern era, it was the way it was depicted that made the songs enjoyable.
  • The Greek Goddess of Love took a liking to the couple, especially how Christian was able to wrest her from the Duke, even if it didn't work out well for them in the end. The couple has been sprinkled with gifts of wine and flowers in the hopes of rekindling their relationship.
  • Now that they can be together, Satine set up a cabaret of her own filled with dancers from all over the Pantheon. Their temple quickly became the new Moulin Rogue for all to attend. Within is a memorial of Zidler, her former boss. Sure, he was the one who propositioned her to the Duke, but she knew he was doing so for the best of the Moulin Rogue.
    • There was one time when she invited a group of people claiming to be from the Transsexual, Transylvania. Little did they know that their leader, the infamous Dr. Frank-n-Furter had plans of his own. It didn't take long before he took over the temple for himself, transforming all the dancers to his own troupe for his entertainment. Thankfully, others received word of the takeover and drove him out. Frank was subsequently slapped with a restraining order on both the couple and the building.
  • As with many couples in the Pantheon, a lot of comparisons have been made between the two and Romeo and Juliet. This is especially true as the two couldn't have been more different from each other. At least one of them survived in the end. Still, both are happy to have their happy ending in the Pantheon.
    • In that regard, the two have more in common with Tony and Maria. In Maria's case, he comforted Christian for the loss of his love in a gender reversal. In fact, Maria suspected she had similar misgivings against the wilder suitor at first until they found out there was a soft side under that exterior. One can often see the two couples go on double dates with each other in classic diners. The two aren't that too far off in terms of timelines.
  • Ichiro and Ryoko watched the couple's relationship flow and ebb throughout their lifetimes in the hope that they complete the loop that many of their followers go through. Which made it more tragic to them when the two made up when she was already about to die. Thus they were excited to see the two have arrived in the Pantheon. Both were willing to help them sort out their new leash of life as well as where to go from there.
  • Much of their problems in their story stemmed from a wealthy suitor code-named the Duke of Monroth. The Duke was to invest in the cabaret to keep it flowing and he would receive Satine as his prize. Christian's arrival threatened those plans and he raged war against the man. This infatuation with her was the cause of many of their problems and was openly sponsored by none other than Lezard Valeth. The couple have made great pains to make sure he doesn't decide to bring the Duke over to bring them more misery.
    • Christian's ascension means that another of Jack Dawson's followers have made the big time. Jack and Cal share deistic powers between rich and poor suitors to love interests. Of course, Cal wasn't too happy about getting one-upped and has banked rolled multiple suitors towards Satine in the hopes of breaking the two apart.
    • The two brought the attention of Rose Bukater, survivor of the ill-fated Titanic... and also the love interest of Jack Dawson. Christian felt that he had a similar pain to that of Rose when both of their love interests died. She proved to be the perfect person in handling their reunion. At least on their part, the couple do not have to worry about their rich suitor ruining things between them.
  • Apparently, tragic figures compliment the French, so the couple thought when they came upon the case of Jean Valjean. Satine in particular took the fate of him and Fantine to heart. She understands the dangers of prostitution and wanted to speak her mind about Valjean abandoning her at her time of need. Yet it was is care of Cosette that won her over. In the end, the three French people threw their anger at Javert for his pointless pursuits. Their temple has become a popular hiding place for the runaway when escaping the officer.
  • As with all other couples Ato-ko Shirogane has sought them out in order to break up their relationship. In this case, she has an easy line of attack: focusing on Christian's insecurities in dating a call girl along with Satine's suspicions that her lover will never accept her for who she is.

Raymond Reddington, Celestial Chairman of Criminal Organizations and Networks (Red, The Concierge of Crime)

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  • Potential Houses: Crime
  • Theme Song: The Blacklist End Credits
  • Demigod
  • Symbols: His Most Wanted Poster
  • Alignment: True Neutral (Neutral Evil to everyone else)
  • Portfolio: A Father to His Men, Affably Evil, Type III Anti-Villain, Badass Baritone, Benevolent Boss, His Berserk Buttons Are Betrayal, Human Trafficking, And Harming His Friends/Allies, Blue-and-Orange Morality, Consummate Liar, Consummate Professional, Cultured Badass, Deadpan Snarker, Even Evil Has Standards, Manipulative Bastard, Man of Wealth and Taste, Massive Multiplayer Scam, Pay Evil unto Evil, Sharp-Dressed Man, Stepford Snarker, Was A Naval Intelligence Officer Before Becoming A Criminal
  • Domains: Knowledge, Criminal Organizations, Trickery
  • Heralds: Elizabeth Keene/Masha Rostova and Dembe
  • Allies: Most of the House of Crime, especially Kasumi Goto, Isabela of Rivain and Vito and Michael Corleone
  • Rivals: Carmen Sandiego, James/Jamie Moriarty
  • Enemies: Kano, Giorno Giovanna, Diavolo, Lex Luthor
  • Opposed By: The House of Justice and all of the good-aligned military deities
  • Observed by: The Maxhine
  • The House of Crime is abuzz with its newest edition to its family; an ordinary-looking, middle-aged man in an expensive suit, fedora and overcoat carrying a briefcase. As it turns out Hotel Moscow (mainly, Balalaika) knows who he is. The Concierge of Crime himself, one Raymond Reddington, has come to the Pantheon.
  • About 20 years ago, Raymond was a Naval Intelligence officer who was being groomed for the position of Admiral. Then, he up and vanished. When he resurfaced four years later, he was selling classified documents to the enemy. He was charged with treason and convicted in absentia as a result. Over the next two decades, U.S. assets and agents in various locations all over the world was compromised as a result of his actions. During this time, he built up a network consisting of a motley crew of spies, thieves, smugglers, drug traffickers, people smugglers, human traffickers, arms traffickers, counterfeiters, forgers, hackers, mercenaries, and assassins. Then he turned his sights to the private sector. Then, he graduates to starting wars a d toppling governments and influencing politics. He became known as the Concierge of Crime due to his talents of setting up black market deals. With his ascension to the Pantheon, Red seeks to expand his influence.
    • Complicating his ascension was the reveal that he is in fact not Raymond Reddington, but an imposter who killed the man and assumed his identity. This caused a stir in his ascension process with people wondering if they could trust the man after all. But the deceit drew a near standing ovation from the House of Crime, even those who were wary of his work with the FBI. The house subsequently fast-tracked his ascension afterwards.
  • Soon after his arrival, he got to work finding associates to help handle his 'Blacklist' of associates he has worked with throughout the years. Among those is Kasumi, a shifty figure in Shepard's own network of misfits. The Master Thief had no qualms outing criminals as long as she gets to keep whatever loot they may have. And working with Red always provides her with valuable items from her victims.
  • Isabela liked his story on how he gave the middle finger to his naval crew before living a life of crime. She agreed to broker information for Red as long as she doesn't end up on the blacklist herself. There is also a bit of personal interest for her; there are certain people who have wronged her in the past and she would love to get her vengeance upon them.
  • It's little surprise that not everyone in the House of Crime approval of his betrayal. Some believe that handing out information to the authorities brandishes him as a traitor. This is no more true than with Moriarty. No one knows if the two associated with each other in the past. The only hint is with the way Moriarty grimaces whenever he hears the name. That and the fact that quite a few assassins that have went after Red have associations with the criminal mastermind suggests a connection between the two]].
    • The Red Dragons were one of the organizations who did business with Red, and his intel made a serious dent on their operations. Kano wants to congratulate him on the hit... by ripping his heart out of his body. Red has proven to be elusive to find, so Kano has not been able to achieve vengeance just yet.
    • This has complicated things in the Jojoverse. Giovanni tried to convince Red to tell him about the location of his hated former boss Diavolo who he suspects ascended shortly after he did. Red has kept things close-lipped, not wanting to deal with such a powerful crime boss as of yet. Frustrated with this, Giovanni has made open his plan to capture the criminal on site, thinking he would do the Pantheon a favor removing him from the equation. The thing is, Red has not escaped Diavolo's attention either who plans to get rid of the man before he could reveal his activities.
  • He's also not on good terms with the defied military officers (the good ones, mostly) due to him turning his back on the Navy and going rogue. So much so that a good portion of them has a kill-on-sight order on him. This put the House of Justice on a disorganized front, with some willing to work with him to broker information and others wanting to either arrest or kill him outright.
  • There is no doubt that Carmen Sandiego has not associated with the man on account of how often the plays spoiler against him. There has been multiple cases where she steals items from under his nose once the perpetrator is caught. She purposefully keeps her network small to prevent such betrayal from happening.
  • Besides gang members, he has also come under fire from various supervillains. Red suspects that this is the work of Lex Luthor While a connection between him and Lex hasn't been found, the God of Supervillains wasn't going to give Red the chance to out him.
  • His connection with the criminal world has been followed by The Machine and its associates. Finch believes that the Machine will eventually be able to piece together all of his contacts, making his usefulness irrelevant. Until then, the Machine closely tracks his whereabouts to make sure he doesn't disappear a second time.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#137722: May 24th 2019 at 7:04:47 AM

Who was the dumbass that approved of Hitler? Seriously my internet goes out for an entire day and this happens

[tdown] it down with all the prejudice. Having Hitler around is just asking for trouble

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Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No. 1 Entourage Fanboy
#137724: May 24th 2019 at 7:18:18 AM

@RJ: [tdown] for Hitler, cause peer pressure told me to.

@Louisent: Go ahead for Rama and Sita.

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...
OldLadyNightMan Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Hiding
#137725: May 24th 2019 at 7:29:12 AM

@RJ: Sorry bud, but I don't want this place to potentially attract that crowd.[tdown]


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