Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
Rules
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
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means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
Instructions and Tips
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
- Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
Divine Ranking System
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
Templates
Template for adding a new deity:
God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles:
Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles:
The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM
#121077: Sep 4th 2018 at 4:19:38 PM
Anything more I should add to Farnese?
Farnese de Vandimion, Goddess of Magical Silver (Lady Farnese, Commander Farnese, Farny, the Vandimion Devil Child, The Wandering Princess, the Seahorse's Guardian Angel)
Click here to see Farnese in Berserk (2016)
- Votes: 1(Muundeis)
- House: Magical Items (House of Magic)
- Lesser Godddess
- Symbol: Her silver surcoat
- Alignment: Lawful Neutral, slowly erring to good (used to border Lawful Evil)
- Portfolio: Blue Blood, Faux Action Girl That Becomes An Actual Action Girl, Silver Has Mystic Powers, Burning Fetish, Made Humbler By Tribulations, Former Knight Templar and Tiny Tyrannical Girl Hiding Behind Religion, Troubling Unchildlike Behavior, Caretaker Becoming Nicer Over Time, Realizing Her Faults, Combat Sadomasochist (rare positive example), Mistress and Servant Boy, Unknowingly Attracted To Her Own Half-Brother
- Domains: Faith, Royalty, Fire, Silver, Hidden Lust, Compassion
- Allies: Guts, Casca, The Skull Knight, Daenerys Targaryen I, Sage Harpuia, Artix Von Krieger, Alexander Anderson, Rosette Christopher, Sunset Shimmer, Flame Princess, The Lone Ranger
- On good terms with: Tanukichi Okuma, Oedipus Rex
- Enemies: Griffith and the Godhand, Wyald, Emperor Ganishka, Nosferatu Zodd, Pazuzu, YHVH, Judge Claude Frollo, Firefly, Brand, Surtr, Aerys II Targaryen
- Interested in: The rest of the House of Fire And Electricity, particularly Ragnaros the Firelord
- Wary of: The House of Demons
- Feared by: Ed
- Farnese de Vandimion is a noblewoman of the high ranking Vanidimion family. Raised a spoiled child, she led the mostly ceremonial Holy Iron Chain knights and ruthlessly prosecuted heretics. However after encountering the true madness of individuals like Mozgus, various demons and Guts, she learned to be more compassionate and that she can't simply hide being religion. She wields an enchanted silver dagger and silver surcoat.
- Called "the Vandimion Devil Child" by some due to her pyromaniac and sadistic tendencies, she initially covered them up and shamefully used her faith to excuse them. Nowadays she focuses it on demons and those that deserve to get hurt. Some of the more noble in the Grand United Alliance of Good are creeped out by this, but she's still just as welcome in the GUAG. Artix Von Krieger is trying to train her in being a proper knight.
- Curiously, Farnese ended up getting along with Sage Harpuia. This may have something to do with once serving a villain in their own ways, but later realizing the villain was wrong and trying to become better people on their own. Or maybe he reminds her of Serpico in part because of his control over wind. She also gets along with Sunset Shimmer given Shimmer is trying to become a better person, and her association with fire.
- Farnese is a Pyromaniac, or more accurately a pyrophile. Despite this she's not evil, and thinks that Brand and Surtr's desire to burn down the world is completely insane. Aerys Targaryen is trying to have her dominated by pyromania in order to satiate his own deranged burning obsession, offering her a position as royal pyromancer. Firefly wants her to join him in indiscriminate burning. Farny is not happy with this.
- Daenerys Targaryen is helping her keep on track with her pyromania, since as a Targaryen she knows the effect it can have on people and how it can cause one to balance on the edge of madness. Flame Princess has been giving her advice on how to use fire for good as she has learned from Finn, and Tanukichi Okuma understands what it's like for her to have hid her lusts.
- Alexander Anderson has taken an interest in Farnese for her religious past, the fact she wants to kick unholy ass and has ultimately shown to be principled despite her more Anti-Hero traits. Rosette Christopher gets along with Farnese as well.
- Given her experiences fighting Apostles, Farnese would rather stay away from the House of Demons, especially since both the Godhand and Nosferatu Zodd reside there. She doesn't want to be anywhere near Pazuzu due to how she was possessed by demons once and they forced her to act on her lusts. Or the demon who possessed a horse and tried to rape her. She was very angry to learn "Rape Horse" has become a meme. Ludwig is a terrible reminder of the "Rape Horse" incident, however he is far more noble than he appears.
- She isn't a fan of Judge Claude Frollo. Like she use to, he hid behind religion to try and justify his cruelty and his lusts. Unlike her he never realized the error of his own ways, only becoming worse as time progressed and tried to commit genocide with fire. Frollo has condemned her for being a pervert, despite his disturbing obsession with Esmeralda and being a Dirty Old Man. Farnese would rather distance herself from YHVH as well.
- Very close to her servant Serpico, whom she has some sort of sexual and romantic attraction to. Serpico is actually her half-brother, but she still doesn't know this. Oedipus is keeping watch so she doesn't act on it, lest she make the same mistake he did.
- Ed seems to fear her. She didn't know why, and has been told that it's because her former status as Tiny Tyrannical Girl reminds him of his sister Sarah. This annoys her as she's grown past that, and doesn't know she's bossing around her half-brother.
AerialQueen
Since: Nov, 2017
#121078: Sep 4th 2018 at 4:25:40 PM
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I'll give a for Farnese.
WhirlRX
Since: Jan, 2015
#121079: Sep 4th 2018 at 6:03:15 PM
So any Sole Survivor of a Planet Eater or having their planet destroyed. Also, any deities connected to Mars.
What kind of Connection would Evolt have with Martians? Would they hate him since he did destroyed Mars' civilization.
Evolto, God of Needing Others to Get Stronger and Creating the Hero (Souichi Isurugi, Blood Stalk, Kamen Rider Evol)
Evol Cobra Form (Phase 1)
[[Click here to see Evolt's true form ]]
- Theme Song: EVOLUTION
- Rank: Greater God. Lesser as Blood Stalk. Overdeity when fully completed
- Symbol: Evol-Trigger
- Alignment: Neutral Evil
- Portfolio: Bastard Alien, Omnicidal Maniac, Manipulating Everybody, Enjoying Causing Pain to Others, Creating Black Holes, Planet Eater, Person of Mass Destruction, Manipulative Bastard, Becoming More Human in a Bad Way, Smug Snake, Hidden Agenda Villain
- Domains: Destruction, Death, Space, Science
- Allies: Nyarlathotep, King Ghidorah
- Enemies: All Toku Heroes, Martian Manhunter, Rei Hino, Silver Surfer, Samus Aran
- Rival: Thanos
- Evol, a planet destroyer who lost all his powers after being deafeated by the Mars Queen. After coming to Earth, he manipulated nearly everybody to increase their Hazard Level to a point to regained his former powers. He was also the reason for the creation of Sento Kiryu, Kamen Rider Build, using him to be fully completed.
- Currently Evol only has access to his Phase 1 to 4 forms with no way to achieved his true form since there's no Pandora Box in the Pantheon. This hasn't deterred the planet destroyer as he been scheming a way to gain his completed form.
- After learning the existence of so many worlds after entering the Pantheon, he been trying to find a easy way to travel to those worlds so he be able to devour the many planets out there.
- Since he did destroyed Mars' civilization Evolt has earn the ire of Mars' Princess Rei Hino. Evolt himself express irritation towards the Sailor Soldier since her presence reminds him of Queen Bernage who actually defeated the planet destroyer in the past.
- Laughed evilly when he found a kindred ally in King Ghidorah who is also a sadistic planet destroyer who ravaged Mars at one point.
Edited by WhirlRX on Sep 5th 2018 at 12:15:28 PM
n3xus
I am the King!
from Somewhere in the Mirror World
Since: Dec, 2014
Relationship Status: In season
I am the King!
#121080: Sep 4th 2018 at 6:34:00 PM
@Whirl RX: Just in case you missed my response to Evolto's actual alignment earlier on, read here please.
Also to those who made a KR Zi-O profile earlier, please don't start the profile yet since Kamen Rider Zi-O has just started. And I would highly advice to wait until it finish next year.
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Sometimes it is, but you might be right on what you said though. The thing is, most of his actions involves with provoking war in order to achieved his goals too.
Edited by n3xus on Sep 4th 2018 at 10:03:19 AM
This is all Zi-O's fault!
fasoman1996
Google "big ears"
from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland)
Since: Dec, 2014
Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#121081: Sep 4th 2018 at 6:43:11 PM
Destructing planets doesn't necessarily guarantee a Chaotic Evil alignment. Take Frieza for example, he does that all the time plus planet conquering and genocide, yet he is a firm Neutral Evil. The worst of the worst aren't necessarily Chaotic Evil by default.
And hey, Frieza as a potential ally for him
Uni cat
#121082: Sep 4th 2018 at 7:06:40 PM
@Evolto: Again, he should be enemies with John Carter given the latter's adventures in Mars.
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mdalsted
#121083: Sep 4th 2018 at 7:19:11 PM
@Clovis: I could take on the task of making that Teensies profile.
Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.
OmegaRadiance
Since: Jun, 2011
#121084: Sep 4th 2018 at 8:10:56 PM
Like fasoman says the worst of the worst vary by alignment. Just look at YHVH.
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Bazzardreturns
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#121085: Sep 4th 2018 at 9:02:53 PM
May I ask, is the trope Pink Girl, Blue Boy open? As I do believe I have a good example for the trope. Shark Boy and Lava Girl. The pair are pretty much colour-coded for the trope. This is just me thinking about possible choices though.
Time to explore the world!
#121086: Sep 4th 2018 at 9:56:13 PM
@ Bazzardreturns: R-lock may be working on that, but I'm not sure
@ Evolto: I think Neutral Evil may still fit. Stuff he does may come off as chaotic, but it's done for self-serving or neutral reasons. At least, that's the argument I get
r-lock256
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#121087: Sep 4th 2018 at 10:10:10 PM
My original idea for Pink Girl, Blue Boy was for Buster & Babs Bunny, but I've scrapped that in favor of ascending them and the other Tiny Toon characters for Junior Counterpart.
Also, on a different note, I don't know how to word Denied Parody into a proper deity title without it sounding weird.
#121088: Sep 4th 2018 at 10:12:42 PM
First draft of Charles Dickens. What should I add to his profile? What should his symbol be?
Charles John Huffham Dickens, God of Opinionated Writing
- House: Storytelling (House of Narrative)
- Quasideity
- Symbol: TBA
- Alignment: True Neutral
- Portfolio: Lemony Narrator, Contrived Coincidence, Started Poor And Writes Of The Troubles He Had, Padding, Earn Your Happy Ending, Author Tracts Necessary At The Time, Having Many Adaptations, Victorian London
- Domains: Writing, Messages, Coincidences, Social Critiques
- Sub-ordinates: Ebeneezer Scrooge, The Ghosts of Christmas, Jacob Marley, Tiny Tim
- Allies: The Doctor (9th Doctor specifically), Rose Tyler, Vincent Van Gogh, Scrooge McDuck, Ochako Uraraka, Charlie Bucket, Nicholas St North, the Grinch, James Henry Trotter, The Love That Moves The Stars, Lazlo, The Pagemaster
- Enemies: Jack the Ripper, Mr Burns, Looten Plunder, the Corpus, Morris, Robot Santa Claus
- Uncertain on: Rod
- A number of writers have become synonymous with Victorian Britain, and Charles John Huffman Dickens is one of them. In his youth he left school to work in a factory while his father did time in a debtor's prison. His literary success began in 1836 with The Pickwick Papers, and over his life created many iconic stories and characters. In the running for one of the greatest writers in the Victorian Era(though he started briefly before), many hit home with the troubles at the time.
- Many of his stories are opinionated, serving as social commentary and often includes criticism of the time. This was rather personal for him as he personally experienced the hellish conditions of the industry and grappled with poverty. Given how bad some of the conditions were back then, pointing it out was for the better. Dickens spends time at the House of Commerce ensuring the factories there treat their employees right, or helping out the House of Children by campaigning for children's rights.
- His views on Rod are somewhat confused. He can completely understand the need to be Anvilicious given his own writing, and he'd be a hypocrite to say it's bad writing. However Birdemic does it badly, and he doesn't like it. However Rod's story is a goldmine of unintended hilarity which he's come to enjoy
- He has a deep contempt for the Corrupt Corporate Executive and evil businesses, naturally opposing Mr Burns, Looten Plunder, the Corpus and Morris. However he does seem to look on Scrooge McDuck favorably, since he's a Honest Corporate Executive who earned his riches through hard work from little, much like Dickens himself rose to fame from humble circumstances.
- His stance on the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism varies depending on the story, but often settles on the idealistic side. He's a big believer of having to Earn Your Happy Ending. The Love That Moves The Stars is intrigued and supports Charles Dickens for characters like Oliver Twist getting his happy ending and characters like Ebeneezer Scrooge becoming better people. Dickens seems to approve of Lazlo for being a representative of Earn Your Happy Ending
- A Christmas Carol may be his most famous work, and it is by far his most adapted. He is very happy to see that even almost a century and a half after his death it is still seen as timeless. Nicholas St North congratulated him for it. The Grinch seems to like Charles Dickens as the story of Ebeneezer Scrooge is something he can relate to. Each Christmas, Charles Dickens goes to the House of Celebration to give a reading of A Christmas Carol for children in need.
- Often associated with Christmas, he was horrified to learn of Robot Santa Claus. What was meant to be an icon of X-Mas joy is instead an insane Knight Templar who has made December 25 a nightmare in the 31st century. Also he treats his elf workers in his factory horribly, which pisses him off something fierce. He was disturbed to learn about Jack the Ripper, the Serial Killer that emerged 18 years after his death.
- The Doctor met Charles Dickens in his 9th incarnation along with Rose Tyler, on Christmas Eve 1869. There they encountered the Gelth, ghost-like aliens who tried to take over the dead and kill the rest of the population for bodies. He planned to use it as the base of "The Mystery of Edwin Drood", but died before he could. Upon his ascension to the pantheon the Doctor and Rose helped him try and finish it.
- Initially a skeptic, meeting the Doctor and especially entering the pantheon led him to realize the existence of some paranormal activity. His experience with the Gelth and the Christmas Ghosts has made him interested in the activities in the House of Ghosts. He was pleased to learn from the Doctor that his stories would be remembered forever. The Doctor has introduced him to Vincent Van Gogh, and Charles Dickens immediately sympathized him for his life and the fact he never achieved fame during his life, unlike Dickens.
- Has a lot of respect and fondness for kids in the pantheon that are poor, and managed to rise to greatness. He is fond of Ochako Uraraka, and thinks it's amazing that Charlie Bucket's virtue led him from poverty to heir of multi-millionaire Willy Wonka, living a kid's dream.
AerialQueen
Since: Nov, 2017
#121089: Sep 5th 2018 at 1:55:32 AM
For Pink Girl, Blue Boy I was thinking about Twinbee and Winbee, but that's an adoptable profile.
Edited by AerialQueen on Sep 5th 2018 at 6:55:46 AM
Strike Laser Claw!!
#121090: Sep 5th 2018 at 5:05:00 AM
So...I found out that Amnesiac Villain Joins the Heroes is a thing and actual trope.
Can anyone say Revan?
Patrickthekid
Since: Sep, 2015
#121091: Sep 5th 2018 at 7:15:16 AM
You can go ahead with that one.
Kan-Ra, The Collector of the Strange
- Potential Houses: Magic
- Intermediate God
- Theme Song: Forbidden Archive
- Symbol: His Stage, Forbidden Archive
- Alignment: Chaotic Evil
- Portfolio: Arch-Enemy To Aganos, Really 3,500 Years Old, Formerly The Vizier To The Babylonian King, Proven To Be Very Hard To Kill, Dishing Out Dirt, Evil Sorcerer, Due To His Curse, He Is Lean and Mean and Living on Borrowed Time, And The Curse Makes Him Rot, His Stage (The Forbidden Archive) Is A Room Full of Crazy, Formerly Imprisoned By The Night Hand Until He Escaped, Villain of Another Story, Your Soul Is Mine!
- Domains: Magic, Curses, Artifice, Evil, Earth, Air
- Allies: Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Shinnok, Dormammu
- Rivals: Onaga, Demitri Maximoff, Rose, Jedah Dohma
- Enemies: Maya Fallegeros, Jago, ARIA, Kim Wu, Doctor Strange, Zatanna Zatara, The Ascended Sailor Scouts
- Opposed by: Anakaris
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Imhotep
- Complicated Relationship: Gargos
- Between Ultratech and Gargos, it can be difficult to see that there are other evil beings in the Killer Instinct world with their own agendas. One of them is a mummy by the name of Kan-Ra. After spending centuries collecting artifacts, he bit more than he could chew when he summoned Gargos. While unlike by multiple parties, he nevertheless managed a place in the Pantheon.
- As stated before, he has no amount of allies in his own world, which remains true in the Pantheon. Jago blames him for unleashing Gargos which nearly got him brainwashed; Gargos was irritated when Kan-Ra sided with the heroes to oppose him and ARIA would have no business with a supernatural being, especially one who keeps stealing some of her technology. And Maya sees him as a top prospect to eliminate. Not even Kim Wu would keep close to the mummy and he was key to helping her defeat Gargos. It was best for him to go at it alone as he usually did.
- Was immediately banned from visiting the Items section of the Pantheon. There was no doubt on anyone's mind that he would make an attempt to steal one of those powerful items. It was imperative that he doesn't set off another powerful being.
- Made an attempt to knock off Anarkaris of his throne, arguing that he does not represent mummies in general with his good nature. While that may be true, Anarkaris stated he would only be forced off. It didn't help that Kan-Ra was not a mummy; he was forced to appear as one after being cursed by a king. He isn't even from Egypt, but from Babylon. Try as he might, Kan-Ra was no match for the ancient mummy. He may not need the temple to enter the Pantheon, but one can expect Kan-Ra to exact his revenge in some way.
- Working with Imhotep was an easier excursion. The deposed former pharaoh needed someone capable of finding relics that can help him become human again. Kan-Ra proved to be useful in that regard. With that said, he is not ready to fully trust the mummy given the later's track record.
- As he isn't actually from Egypt, the Egyptian Gods felt he was not of their concern. Still, they do not take his thefts of their temples too kindly and may occasionally send minions to deal with him.
- He did manage to find some allies along the way. Within the GUAE, he befriended Quan Chi and Shinnok, dwellers of Underworld. The mummy's tracking abilities pleased Quan Chi, 2ho could use some help to amass some artifacts of his own to become more powerful. With that said, Kan-Ra has been careful not to give him anything that would surpass his own power.
- The same can be said for Shang Tsung, and the mummy has been masterful in keeping both sorcerers content without favoring one over the other.
- Would not work with Onaga. Quan Chi made a similar mistake in unleashing the Dragon King, and yet another being bent on ruling his world is more than enough problems for Kan-Ra to handle.
- Jedah was a welcoming change of pace compared to the cutthroat supernatural foes. He agreed to an audience where they conversed on their goals. When they left, both were willing to work with each other. Yet Kan-Ra would secretly put himself at arms length; he has heard about how manipulative the Noble Demon can be. While he is no longer human, he had a feeling that Jedah had little respect towards the newcomer.
- Is wary of giving anything of significance to Dormammu. He learned his lesson form Gargos and isn't keen on giving the Dimension Lord any footing on his plan. He is willing to help the demon defeat archenemy Doctor Strange with an assortment of items for unique trinkets of his own.
- It was of no surprise that he would have to deal with pesky heroes trying to disrupt his work.
- Among which is the stage magician known as Zatanna. While her magic is superior to that of his own, he has been able to elude her by wrapping her in his wraps before making his escape.
- Doctor Strange saw to it that his Sanctum Sanctorum is tightly locked and sealed to prevent Kan-Ra from entering and stealing any valuables. It is unlikely that the mummy can beat Strange in a fair fight, but he is content of waiting for an opportunity to get the jump on the Sorcerer Supreme.
- The fortune teller Rose has likened the mummy to someone who should have never given a new lease in life. She has offered her abilities of prediction to Jago and the like in order to thwart him.
- To the Sailor Scouts, Kan-Ra feels like another Monster of the Week that has to be taken care of. Unlike the others, they may have a way to permanently reduce Kan-Ra to ashes. That is why the mummy is more wary towards crossing paths with them.
- "You'll make a fine specimen."
Joe Higashi, God of Handwraps (The Young Muay Thai Champ)
- Potential Houses: Accessories
- Theme Song: Thai Nanbu no Tsutaetai Atarashii Shi
- Lesser God
- Symbols: The Hurricane Upper and the Screw Upper and the Double Cyclone
- Alignment: Lawful Good
- Portfolio: Anime Hair, Arrogant Muay Thai Guy, Hot-Blooded, Large Ham, Martial Arts Headband, Walking Shirtless Scene, Small Name, Big Ego, His Projectile Attacks Are The Hurricane Upper, the Screw Upper and the Double Cyclone, Boisterous Bruiser, His Animal Motif Is The Tiger, Rapid-Fire Fisticuffs/Spam Attack
- Domains: Muay Thai, Fighting, Air, Strength, Good
- Herald: Hwa Jai
- Allies:
- From King Of Fighters: Terry Bogard (his rival and teammate), Mai Shiranui, Ryo and Yuri Sakazaki and Robert Garcia, Kyo Kusanagi and Iori Yagami, Leona Heidern
- Other Allies: Ryu, Ken Masters,
- Friendly Rivalry: with King
- Rivals: Sagat, Juri Han, Laura Matsuda, Rashid, Adon, Asuka Kazama
- Annoyed By: The Scout
- Conflicting Opinion: Billy Kane
- Enemies: Geese Howard, Rugal Bernstein, Ryuji Yamazaki, Akuma, Vega, M. Bison
- The ascended deities representing the King of Fighters had a bet as to who would be the next to ascend between Andy Bogard and Joe Higashi, the former being the favorite to ascend. Much money was lost when Joe's ascension cleared, with Billy Kane and Leona Heidern the biggest winners out of the pool.
- Joe was annoyed to find out that Wolfgang Krauser has not ascended yet. He hasn't forgotten that one incident in which the Stroheim Strongman left him with 2 dozen broken bones following their encounter.
- This brought a mixed bit of emotions to Billy Kane, the right hand man of Geese Howard. Joe is paired with Terry Bogard, an intense enemy of his boss. Yet Joe ended up dating his sister. All attempts to dissuade her from continue was shot down. This means that he how has to contend with this jerk once more... though it also means that his sister may appear in the Pantheon more often. Either way, Kane shook his head on the coming mess he will face.
- Spends time at the House of Food whenever they serve up his favorite dish: fried alligator meat.
- Joe was suprised to see the Bar Illusion in the Pantheon, which meant that King herself has ascended. While he is a bit annoyed that she was able to join the Pantheon before him, he is happy to see his old rival present.
- Joe quickly became intense rivals with Muay Tai practitioner Sagat. Sadly, the King made short work of Joe to maintain the title. Joe then set his sites on Sagat's former protege Adon. That proved to be a more equal fight, though Adon himself wants to get the pleasure of becoming the new King of Muay Tai. The battles are often vicious with the two trading wins against each other.
- Was quick to join Terry in his bouts with Ryu and Ken. Usually, Andy Bogard is the more familiar partner, but Terry's brother yet to appear in the Pantheon Joe would have to do.
- Often fights to rid himself of the notion of being a Joke Character. And yet he has Dan Hibiki as one of his best friends outside his world. The two even managed to win a tournament together. Nevertheless, Joe easily proved himself to be the superior fighter whenever the two met.
- Outside of Muay Thai, he set his eyes on other worthy opponents. That peaked the interest of Laura, who was hoping to find someone to promote her dojo. Besides fighting each other, the two also argue which fighting style is best in an MMA setting.
- Juri is always willing to accept a challenge from eager (yet foolish) fighters, and Joe fit the bill to a tee.
- It was his dream to take on the dreaded Akuma. The demon initially had no interest in fighting the fool, but Joe persisted by taunting him wherever he went. Eventually, Akuma had enough and took on his foe head on... proceeding to wipe the floor with Joe. That didn't stop the later from making Akuma his top priority to defeat.
- His main source of power is his ability to punch fast enough to create tornados towards his opponents. With enough power, he can create more powerful gusts of wind. It was thought that he would get into the Pantheon for originating the Tornado Move... that is until a certain Middle Easterner proved popular enough to take the title from him. Not one to take slights unheeded, Joe demanded a fight to settle the dispute. While the two fought valiantly, it was decided that Rashid would keep his title.
- As stated above, he is extremely prone to starting brawls, even for a fighting game character. That has brought a lot of stress to Asuka, who often breaks up said fights. With that said, she isn't adverse to taking him on if the moment is needed. As a result, the two are familiar with each other.
- Brash and arrogant, he nevertheless sides with the good-aligned fighters in the Pantheon. Besides, all the evil ones tend to be the most powerful ones. For example, he got to help Ryu take on Shadaloo one time.
- There was one time when he and The Scout went on a taunt fest that lasted for weeks. The two couldn't even decided how things escalated the way they did, but neither wanted to end up as the loser. In the end, the Court of the Gods was involved, who decided that both were winners just to bring the taunting to an end.
- "Hyaah. The legend of Joe Higashi begins a new chapter."
fasoman1996
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Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#121092: Sep 5th 2018 at 7:31:06 AM
Revan who?
Muundeis
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Since: Dec, 2017
Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#121093: Sep 5th 2018 at 7:37:58 AM
The one from Knights of the Old Republic, apparently.
Edited by Muundeis on Sep 5th 2018 at 10:41:04 PM
Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...
AerialQueen
Since: Nov, 2017
#121094: Sep 5th 2018 at 10:15:46 AM
for Kan-Ra.
fasoman1996
Google "big ears"
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#121095: Sep 5th 2018 at 4:28:56 PM
It's been a while since Fighter Z came out but i was wondering, should we change Cell and Frieza's interactions from Allies to Teeth-Clenched Teamwork or Vitriolic Best Buds? Because the game is a lot closer to canon and in there, neither really likes the other much.
That said, my god is the roasting in that game glorious.
Edited by fasoman1996 on Sep 5th 2018 at 8:31:03 AM
Uni cat
mdalsted
#121096: Sep 5th 2018 at 5:22:39 PM
I agree with you on both fronts.
#121097: Sep 5th 2018 at 5:27:46 PM
Slow day, huh?
WhirlRX
Since: Jan, 2015
#121098: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:00:22 PM
The series finale for Adventure Time happen. I haven't seen it but it seems Ice King is no longer insane and is Simon again. Does that invalid his trope title?
AerialQueen
Since: Nov, 2017
#121099: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:04:55 PM
Wow, so Adventure Time ended with a bang. Impressive.
WhirlRX
Since: Jan, 2015
#121100: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:09:45 PM
On the same notion, Marceline has Dry dock shipping. Is it invalid now that The B Ubblegum and Marceline ship is canon.
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Trying again.
Lan, MegaMan.EXE, and Cordelia are being reworked here
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I'm also reworking the Men in Black and Odio here
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Violetta Mondarev, Goddess of Warping Reality "Offscreen"
How should I ascend these two? My idea is that the GUAC somehow captured Korra and were doing experiments to extract Vaatu, but a timely intervention from the GUAG causes them to screw up and release both him and Raava, who proceed to go at each other again before -something something badabing badaboom ascension-
Question; who would Vaatu side with more? Melkor or Nekron? And what would he and Raava think of Asura and Chakravartin?
Raava and Vaatu, Divine Forces of Dueling Absolutes (Rava Codename, Nickname)
- Greater Deities
- Symbol: Each other
- Theme Song
- Alignment: Chaotic Evil (Vaatu), Lawful Good (Raava)
- Portfolio: Yin-Yang Clash, Balance Between Good and Evil, Arch-Enemies, Always Fated To Return, Complete Immortality, Female Angel, Male Demon, Good Colors, Evil Colors, Healing Factor, Made of Air, Order Versus Chaos, Time Abyss, Resembling Giant Flatworms
- Raava: Big Good, Born-Again Immortality, Used To Be Disdainful Of Humans, Defrosting Ice Queen, Fusing With The Avatar to Form the Avatar Cycle, Took a Level in Kindness
- Vaatu: Ancient Evil, Anti God Of Evil, Dystopia Justifies the Means, Death by Irony, Only Needed One Victory, False Innocence Trick, Greater-Scope Villain, Green Thumb, Grows By Corrupting Spirits, Destroyed By Purification, Sealed Evil in a Can, Only Non-Human Main Villain In His Series
- Domain(s): Balance, Chaos, Order
- Heralds: Wan (Raava), Unalaq (Vaatu)
- Allies:
- Raava: Avatar Korra, Avatar Aang, and all their allies, Cosmos, Philemon, the Spring Sprite, Xerneas
- Vaatu: Melkor, Lord Chaos, Nyarlathotep, Chiaki Hayasaka, Jimenez, the Firebird
- Rivals:
- Enemies: Each other, each other's allies, Lucifer, YHVH, and all their demons/angels that support either of them, Yaldabaoth, The White, the Administrators, Zelenin, Isamu Nitta, Hikawa, the Grand United Alliance of Machines, Merged Zamasu
- Raava: the Divine Powers
- Vaatu: nearly every human deity, all spirits, Yveltal
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Yveltal, (Raava only)
- Unknown Opinion: Nekron (Vaatu only)
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that have various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.) other than allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Respected by/Respects:
- Pitied by/Pities:
- Opposes:
- Raava:
- Vaatu: Harbinger
- Conflicting Opinion:
- The Grand United Alliance of Chaos had managed to capture Korra, and were ''-ascension text here-
- Despite representing order and chaos, both of them oppose YHVH (she because she thinks his order is too far, he out of principle) and Lucifer (she for obvious reasons, he because of the devil's positive views on humanity).
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