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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#148751: Oct 30th 2019 at 5:46:30 PM

I can't think of any. Well maybe how Ulanaq might feel about Angra Mainyu, the Zoroastrian God of Evil, chaos and general darkness. Vaatu is a sort of equivalent to him, being the god of evil and malevolence in eternal conflict with his equally powerful good counterpart. I'm not sure that Enrico Pucci would like Ulanaq because he might regard the "10 thousand years of darkness" as too dsytopic compared to his goal of "make it so everyone knows their own fate, to be at peace with it"

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 31st 2019 at 1:51:48 AM

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#148752: Oct 30th 2019 at 6:16:11 PM

I'd like to make trope change for Chrom, replacing The Patriarch with Last-Second Ending Choice. Chrom does not fith The Patriarch well, as the trope involves the dad being rather old, strict, cold, and traditional, while Chrom is a young, friendly, dorky man. As for why he would be taking Last-Second Ending Choice, after defeating Grima at the end of the game, you're given the choice of letting Chrom land the final blow. If you do, Grima is sealed away again, if you don't, Robin kills Grima at the cost of their life, although they get better later. This choice is the one that makes the biggest impact on the story, other choices are more impactful on the gameplay. What do you guys think?

[down] That's not a bad choice either, it's called the Brand of the Exalt if you were wondering.

[down][down] Huh, forgot about her. Nevermind then.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Oct 30th 2019 at 6:39:06 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#148753: Oct 30th 2019 at 6:27:58 PM

[up]Rather give him the Birthmarkof Destiny since he has the Mark of i forgot its name.

Edited by WhirlRX on Oct 30th 2019 at 9:28:34 AM

wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#148754: Oct 30th 2019 at 6:35:55 PM

[up]No, Leeloo has that.

I'll try to get this done next.

The DATS AgentsMembers , Holy Team of Battle Auras (Masaru: Marcus; Tohma: Thomas; Yoshino: Yoshi; Ikuto: Keenan Crier)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/datsmain.jpg
Clockwise from the bottom: (humans) Masaru, Yoshino, Ikuto, Tohma; (Digimon) Agumon, Lalamon, Falcomon, Gaomon

Edited by wootzits on Oct 30th 2019 at 1:37:36 PM

louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#148755: Oct 30th 2019 at 6:47:42 PM

Excessive-Menace: [tup] for the trope change.

Just a sad, lonely girl
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#148756: Oct 30th 2019 at 6:53:00 PM

Draft of Jimmy Olsen and the Fourth World. I'm mostly confident on the Fourth World, but I would like to know what I should add to Jimmy

Apokolips and New Genesis, Divine Worlds Of Villainous Dystopias And Heroic Utopias (together: The Fourth World)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/16bf775f32f6dcccedcecdf774edf572509d47bc_hq.jpg
Left-New Genesis, right-Apokolips
  • House: Planets (House of Dominions)
  • Description: A hellish ecumenopolis (Apokolips) and heavenly arcadia with a floating city of Supertown (New Genesis), both existing in a higher dimension
  • Symbol: Darkseid's Omega Symbol (Apokolips), The New God symbol for freedom (New Genesis). Both use a Boom Tube or Mother Box as a general symbol
  • Alignment: Lawful Evil and Chaotic Good respectively
  • Portfolio: Villainous Badland, Heroic Arcadia, Enforced Cold War (it didn't last), Dwells In The Sphere Of The Gods, After the End Of A Ragnarok (as a whole), Always Lawful Evil Dystopia, Polluted Wasteland and City Planet (Apokolips), Utopian Arcadia of Crystal Spires and Togas, Always Chaotic Good (New Genesis)
  • Domains: Divinity, Duality, Conflict (Both), Dystopia, Tyranny, Industrialization (Apokolips), Utopia, Freedom, Arcadia (New Genesis)
  • Ruled by: Darkseid (Apokolips), Highfather (New Genesis)
  • Sacred to
  • There came a time when the Old Gods died! A climatic battle erupted between these gods, the noble and brave died with the brutal and cunning. Their world was destroyed, but eventually life emerged again. The molten remains split into two, bringing forth the dystopian Apokolips and utopian New Genesis. Evil and good, forever locked in conflict. This is the Fourth World, home to the New Gods.
  • In general
    • The two worlds are a sort of archetype of evil and good. As such the inhabitants morally reflect this, though even the harsh world of Apokolips can produce good souls(Orion) or free themselves through The Power of Love (Big Barda). But if there's something both sides can agree on, it's the merits of Bold Inflation and Purple Prose. The Grand United Alliance of Evil and Grand United Alliance of Good had a lot of vested interest in these worlds. Both sides would also like to know how Metron, a New God who claims to be from neither worlds, fits into things.
    • Apokolips and New Genesis exist in a higher plane known as the Sphere of the Gods, along with other divine beings. There's only one true version in the multiverse, described by Batman as coming from a sort of "archetypal, platonic world". While the gods(Darkseid at the least) have a Fighting a Shadow situation, this has led many people to wonder just how to explain the various contradictory depictions, retcons despite it also being mentioned these worlds are beyond normal space-time. Or how mortals visiting it works. The House of Knowledge is trying to resolve this, with Jack Kirby aiding them.
    • Requires a Boom Tube to go to and from, though some beings like Libra managed without. It's advised not to, as the true size of the New Gods and their home worlds are so massive that the Earth would barely displace a small lake-the Boom Tubes also scale mortals/the New Gods to be relatively equal in size. The House of Time And Space is working on making their own Boom Tubes and transportation devices separate from New God control.
  • Specific to Apokolips
    • Apokolips' most notable feature is its ever-burning fire pits. Its citizens are basically slaves to Darkseid, treated terribly yet so conditioned they worship him like some sort of Stockholm Syndrome. That said, they're often portrayed as a vicious lot and Darkseid is able to keep some sort of order. The GUAG has tried to take down Darkseid or at least try to better the citizen's spirit, but the fact it can't be changed from being a Crapsack World is an eternal thorn in the side of good. Nowadays they focus on making sure Darkseid doesn't try to turn the rest of creation into a new Apokolips.
    • Despite being the evil half of the Fourth World, Apokolips has cut all ties to Melkor and the GUAE. Darkseid doesn't play second fiddle, and Melkor reminds Darkseid of the one being he fears; his father and even worse God of Evil, Yuga Khan. YHVH hopes to usurp Darkseid's authority and take control of Apokolips, as it's firmly on the Law side of things, all in His eternal ambition to eliminate The Evils of Free Will and assert Himself as the one god.
    • Santa Claus has somehow managed to get his hand on a Mother Box or bypass the dimensional barriers, since he always manages to give Darkseid his yearly coal-a fact that infuriates him to no end. Further infuriating Darkseid and Apokolips as a whole is Rick Sanchez, who's skill at dimensional portals led him to take making his own Boom Tube as a challenge. After he accomplished that he mocked their technology and left a bunch of dick picks. He did that with New Genesis, but they didn't make a "torture and/or kill on sight" towards Rick.
  • Specific to New Genesis
    • A veritable paradise covered in lush forests and greenlands. To prevent nature being disrupted, the only urban center is the massive floating city of Supertown. This is something that those in the Nature Preservers respect.
    • Hexxus would love to change that, though he hasn't had any success so far. Unlike Melkor and Apokolips, Cosmos and the GUAG are totally welcome on New Genesis. Highfather has pledged support to them over the other alliances.
    • Lucifer has asked to form a potential alliance of convenience, given Apokolips' tyranny is a bane to the Grand United Alliance of Chaos and their goals. Highfather wanted to reject him outright as New Genesis does not approve of the GUAC's methods, however admits Lucifer would help against Darkseid. Lucifer was quick to point out that he has made some morally dubious actions such as trading his son for Darkseid's in The Pact, and one of his allies is Zeus. While he had a point, New Genesis has made it clear it's a non-aggression pact and will go against Lucifer the moment he goes out of line to stop the likes of Darkseid or YHVH.

James Bartholomew Olsen, God of Constantly Gaining And Losing Superpowers (Jimmy Olsen, Superman's Best Friend, Mr Action, Elastic Lad, Flamebird, Accountable, Turtle-Man and many other super-names)

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Jimmy in what passes for normal.
A group shot of various weird transformations 

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#148757: Oct 30th 2019 at 7:17:30 PM

[up] You should probably some possible allies Apokilips may have, in addition to a possible storyline that may involve both it and New Genesis (Whether its a canon story or a Pantheon Original is up to you).

Jimmy should make enemies with villainous journalists and news-related jobs (Louis Bloom, Diana Christensen etc.). Also an ally with Spider-Man, considering Peter's job in the Daily Bugle.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Oct 30th 2019 at 2:19:44 PM

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#148758: Oct 30th 2019 at 7:29:51 PM

Anything can change!

[down][down] I already did that.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Oct 30th 2019 at 8:19:31 AM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#148759: Oct 30th 2019 at 7:42:23 PM

[up] EAT....HER!

Uni cat
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#148760: Oct 30th 2019 at 8:16:26 PM

This is Halloween!

The reasoning for Chrom's title change should also be added to the profile.

Feedback Mode

Tadano Hitonari, Avatar of Alignment-Based Endings (Commander of the Schwarzwelt Investigational Team, Langdon Alger, Lance Murdock, Space Marine, Spess Mehren, Japanese Doomguy)

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  • Lesser God in his DEMONICA, Demigod off of it, Intermediate God in both Chaos Endings, Greater God in the New Neutral Ending
  • Symbol: His DEMONICA helmet
  • Theme Song: Morale
  • Alignment: Starts as Neutral Good, remains so in the Neutral paths, Chaotic Evil in the Chaos path, Lawful Evil in the Law path, Chaotic Good in the New Chaos path, and Lawful Good in the New Law path
  • Portfolio: Badass Normal And Can Be Empowered, "Space Marine" Protagonist, Adaptive Armor, Sword and Gun, Demon Tamer, Commander of the Strike Team After His Predecessor's Death, Last-Name Basis (As Per Military Procedure), Race Lift, The Stoic, Manipulative Bastard to Demons
  • Domain(s): Marines, Exploration, Demons, Law, Chaos, Neutral
  • Heralds: Arthur (Neutral paths only), their respective Schwarzwelt Investigational Teams
  • High Priest(ess): the nameless hero(ine)/villain(ess) from Enclave
  • Followers: Kyle Katarn, Sarah, Leonhardt Raglan, The Kalach-Cha/Knight-Captain, Aramus/The Force Commander, the Novistrana revolutionary leader, Arthur Morgan
  • Allies: (Insert Name Here)
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: The Imperium of Man (Neutral and New Law Paths), Asura (New Law Path)
  • Enemies: The Grand United Alliance of Destruction, Dharkon, The Divine Powers, Chakravartin, The Administrators, the Godhand, Griffith, Fused Zamasu, Shekinah (except for the "old" Law and Chaos paths, in which they're more Unwitting Pawn)
  • Supported by: Lucifer (New Neutral, New Chaos, and—yes—New Law Paths)
  • It's a well-known fact that the Shin Megami Tensei games have multiple endings based on the Player Character's alignment. But with all of the Great Will's Messiahs in the Pantheon already, who else is left to represent that aspect? That was when Stephen found an oft-ignored representative from an ambiguously Gaiden Game.
  • The protagonist of Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey, to be addressed by his Drama CD name Tadano Hitonari, was a Japanese (or American) soldier of Earth during a present-day time period when the Schwarzwelt appeared in Antarctica. The United Nations assembled a quartet of teams comprised of the brightest minds, most talented soldiers (Hitonari among them), and the most advanced technology they had available. Their mission: enter and explore the interior of the Schwarzwelt, and find a way to stop it before the entire world is consumed.
    • Of course, things aren't as simple as that. Their foes proved far more dangerous than it seemed, the Schwarzwelt's reason for existing proved more complicated than it seemed, and the demons proved invisible to the naked eye before a Mysterious Benefactor granted them the Demon Summoning Program for a fighting chance. Humanity would be tested as they explored the Schwarzwelt, and circumstances led to Hitonari being in the lead and ultimately deciding the fate of his kind.
  • Due to the nature of his trope, all of his versions were required to ascend. That not only meant the Neutral, Law, and Chaos versions, but their New versions, too, leading to a total of six. Upon hearing who was planned for ascension, YHVH and Mem Aleph were quick to bring forth the versions fitting their own paths while Stephen and Cosmos (with anonymous aid from Lucifer for all but one) helped ascend the rest.
  • In terms of residences, to minimize clashes with one another, their temples take the form of five Red Sprites, the hover-capable landships that the Schwarzwelt Investigational Team used to explore the demon realms, but modified and miniaturized to enable reasonable solo travel with it. Why five when there are six Hitonaris? The two Neutral Hitonaris share a "temple" because they share the same ideals; there's no point in separating them. While the other New Hitonaris are also good people, they have their separate agendas that can take them to different places in the Pantheon.
  • Applies to all or some of them:
    • Wanna know what exactly their paths took them? Well...
      • Law Hitonari helped turn his Earth into a world of total peace where it devotes itself solely to praising the greatness of God (YHVH).
      • Chaos Hitonari helped turn his Earth into a primordial world of gods and demons, where only the strongest survive and humanity is expected to suffer for their role in disrupting the natural order.
      • Neutral Hitonari successfully performs the original mission of the Investigational Team and destroys the Schwarzwelt, but it's implied that it will return so long as humanity doesn't get its act together.
      • New Law Hitonari helepd turn his Earth into a peaceful world without violence that still has its free will, but runs the risk of leaving humanity vulnerable without the will to fight should a threat arise.
      • New Chaos Hitonari helped turn his Earth into one where nature flourishes and humanity can live in harmony with gods, demons and the Earth. Instead of a world ruled by strength, it becomes a world filled with infinite possibilities for humanity, where each person is free to act as they choose.
      • New Neutral Hitonari destroys the Schwarzwelt like his "old" counterpart, but also uses the Cosmic Fruit to become Earth's immortal protector against the Schwarzwelt as it appears again and again until humanity can learn its lesson and break the Eternal Recurrence themselves.
    • Despite whatever blessings they've received (if they still retain them), all versions of Hitonari still fight as they did before; with swords, guns, and summoned demons.
      • It was a surprise to discover that the DEMONICA was in the Pantheon's Treasury. Now that there are six more suits, a change of policy has been in consideration in regards to requisitioning and reverse-engineering it. Thus this gave the Grand United Alliances of Good, Law, and Chaos a head start in research. The GUAs of Evil, Destruction, and Machines are now dedicated to capturing the Hitonaris in order to requisition their DEMONICAs for themselves. Other independent forces not among the above who have interest in the suits are trying the same.
    • In case you're wondering how Hitonari can either be Japanese or American? Well, he's half of both ethnicities.
    • Being of differing alignments, there is naturally opposition among themselves, though mainly from the Law and Chaos Hitonaris, even against their New counterparts. Even New Chaos and New Law have their disagreements. It's a good thing their temples are separate.
    • While they're not exactly on their old mission anymore, their expedition in the Schwarzwelt has conditioned them to pick up everything in sight that doesn't have a clear owner (and perhaps beat up the owner if there is and if they think it can benefit them more). The good Hitonaris do their best to use their manners, though.
    • Besides those who desire total annihilation of all life, given their interactions with Jack's Squad, there's one thing all Hitonaris share their despisal for; all Private Military Contractors and Mad Scientists, especially if they any sort of morals. And in the case of Law, Chaos, and (to a lesser extent) New Law Hitonaris, the alignment of these mercenaries or doctors doesn't matter to them; they all must die horribly.
    • Since there are multiple Hitonaris, all of them would naturally be aware of Funny Valentine because of his Stand's ability to easily obliterate them if they are not careful. The only one who doesn't quite have to worry about that tidbit is Law Hitonari due to the president's affiliations with the GUAL.
  • Exclusive to the Neutral paths:
    • New Neutral Hitonari told the "Old" Neutral Hitonari about the latter's future and its eventual doom via another Schwarzwelt. Neutral Hitonari almost lost his faith since humanity learned nothing and repeated their mistakes to end this way, but <someone in the GUAG> was able to restore his faith in humanity; New Neutral Hitonari was unable to help in this case as he inadvertently serves as an example of the fruitlessness of his struggle since his world's humanity is relying on another higher being for their safety and has been doing so for 150 years before his ascension to the Pantheon.
    • Due to his never-ending crusade against the Schwarzwelt, being a soldier heading off into another dimension, being completely and totally human and facing off against monsters that are more or less the stuff of nightmares, it was natural that Doomguy would be a steadfast ally of New Neutral Hitonari (and the older one, too). They even go hunting demons together on occasion, though Hitonari has to avoid summoning his own lest Doomguy commit Friendly Fire on it, and most of the summoned that wouldn't draw his attention are usually unable to stomach the carnage.
    • With their new situation in the Pantheon, as well as everything it has to offer, the Arthur that came with New Neutral Hitonari decided it would be best to share resources with the GUAG after deducing Cosmos' intentions. There was a little bit of hesitation on this since they heard of the Lockdown Kazuya Minegishi and his friends experienced, the Demon Summoning everybody got, and the chaos that ensued. However, given the technological state of the Pantheon and all of its residents, this worry was mostly unfounded.
    • On occasion, New Neutral Hitonari goes to the moon to relax, just as he's done for the past 150 years after becoming immortal. On occasion, he gets fellow visitors who sit with him, and he wouldn't mind their presence (even if it was someone like Nightmare Moon) as long as he isn't messed with.
  • Exclusive to the Chaos paths:
    • New Chaos and "Old" Chaos Hitonari are both trying to sway Jimenez to following their respective paths. Thanks to having been told about the hypocrisy of his decision and being reminded of what he did for Bugaboo, he's currently on the fence. Using strength to determine their righteousness of their choice isn't working either, as both Chaos Hitonaris keep ending their fights in draws.
  • Exclusive to the Law paths:
    • Due to the nature of her trope, New Law Hitonari is having difficulty getting through Zelenin, who no longer has any faith in humanity, which is not helped with "Old" Law Hitonari always getting in the way of any form of communication under YHVH's orders.
    • New Law Hitonari is admired by several deities who abhor violence and are idealistic enough to think that his world would be absolutely perfect.

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SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#148761: Oct 30th 2019 at 8:24:17 PM

[up][tup]

Officially dividing the Police page like this. Thoughts?

  • Leadership
  • Division One (Violent Crime)
  • Division Two (General Crime)
  • Division Three (Petty Crime and Traffic)
  • Division Four (Internal Affairs)
  • Division Five ('Special' Affairs)
  • Division Six (Intelligence)
  • Supplementary Info (police ranks, list of police HQs)

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Oct 31st 2019 at 12:05:49 AM

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M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#148762: Oct 30th 2019 at 9:01:16 PM

Guess everything for Unalaq seems to be in order. I wonder if I could keep that [tup] I got

Unalaq, The Dark Shepherd (Dark Avatar, UnaVaatu)

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Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.
SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#148763: Oct 30th 2019 at 9:05:00 PM

[up][tup]

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nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#148764: Oct 30th 2019 at 9:41:10 PM

[nja] I forgot to just Edit Post and went a page back instead.

Edited by nightelf37 on Oct 31st 2019 at 12:42:15 AM

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The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#148765: Oct 30th 2019 at 9:41:31 PM

Regarding Unalaq, add these as followers.

[[WesternAnimation/LittlestPetShop2012 Fisher Biskit]], [[WesternAnimation/JohnCallahansQuads Sister Butch]], [[VideoGame/BioshockInfinite Zachary Comstock]], [[{{Literature/Victoria}} Governor Kraft]], [[Film/LaColonia Paul "Pious" Schäfer]]

I've made it copy-paste friendly for you already.

Do this and you'll get my [tup].

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#148766: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:18:56 PM

@ Crimson Shark: Your Harbingers of Repression would fit for Apokolips' allies once they're up. I'll note that down

Speaking of which, I'm wondering who I should add to the Divine Ordinance Of Absolute Justice

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 31st 2019 at 6:21:11 AM

SomeoneElse17 Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#148767: Oct 30th 2019 at 11:43:15 PM

@Crimson Shark: For Cassandra, may I suggest "Goddess of Minidress Combatants" (or "Goddess of Minidress-Wearing Combatants" if we have to be entirely literal) as a more accurate rendition of what her trope actually means? Because I'm pretty sure it's not about the dress having powers, but the girl wearing the dress in her capacity as a badass.

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#148768: Oct 31st 2019 at 12:06:14 AM

@nightelf. Followers are not necessary. Please do not keep adding followers to every profile.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
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#148769: Oct 31st 2019 at 12:21:11 AM

I'm aware some cases are impossible, and so I won't in those cases. The reason I do is for exposure of other works that might not have a chance to get deities in here otherwise.

Also, it's fun, and I often end up with a list when It try finding candidates myself. So why shouldn't I unless they don't actually fit the trope?

[down][confused] I... guess you can see it like that? I've been doing this long before SSBU.

Edited by nightelf37 on Oct 31st 2019 at 4:09:54 PM

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#148770: Oct 31st 2019 at 12:26:07 AM

[up] So they're like Spirits?

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SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#148771: Oct 31st 2019 at 4:43:07 AM

Seeing as Gihren is due for a rework (a list was provided earlier), would it be possible to ascend the entire Zabi family under the trope Colony Drop? While Gihren gets the brunt of the blame for being a key figure behind Operation British, nearly all of the family were involved in executing it in some way or another. For example, Kycilia and her Secret Police ruthlessly eliminated anyone who got a glimpse of the possible operation and Vice Admiral Dozle was behind the gassing of the colonies. Despite knowing that it was a war crime, Dozle did it anyway out of patriotism and had Captain Ramba Ral demoted to Lieutenant for being insubordinate against the operation. The family were also behind another attempted Colony Drop, which culminates in the Battle of Loum.

I mean, that means A Nazi by Any Other Name will be freed up.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Oct 31st 2019 at 7:45:01 PM

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#148772: Oct 31st 2019 at 6:06:01 AM

[up][up][up] I'm not saying you stole the idea or anything, just pointing out a comparison.

Anyway, Here's the description for my wait-time sandbox. How's it look?

In order to prevent additions to the Pantheon based off hype, a wait time is in place for recently released works; This sandbox catalogs them and the dates they become fair game.

The system is as follows:

  • Movies = when the DVD/Blu-ray is released. This goes for both live action and animated movies.
  • Video Games = Depends. Story-heavy games are two months, while less plot heavy games are one. Indie games are a few weeks to two months depending on how popular the game in question is. These rules also apply to DLC.
  • Comicbooks/Manga/Cartoons/TV Shows/Anything released in episodes or issues = Slice of Life works or works with little-to-No Continuity are a month after the first episode airs or the first issue releases. More story-heavy works (especially ones with lots of Wham Episodes) are generally discouraged before the series finishes, as it almost always leads into the profile(s) needing reworks as the series progresses, but they can still be discussed. Works that are released whole season by whole season are two months unless they fall into the "story-heavy" category.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Oct 31st 2019 at 9:28:04 AM

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nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#148773: Oct 31st 2019 at 6:24:47 AM

[up]I didn't think that's what you meant.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#148774: Oct 31st 2019 at 6:25:47 AM

@Crossover Sounds reasonable to me. Although there should be some hype checks just in case. You never know what could happen

Uni cat
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#148775: Oct 31st 2019 at 6:29:35 AM

[up] Sure thing! ...What's a hype check?

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