To-do list:
- Relationship Voice Actor has been disambiguated between Typecasting, Those Two Actors, Casting Gag. If any examples fit at least one of those, move them. Otherwise, delete them.
Continuing from Trope Talk, it got apparent that Relationship Voice Actor has grown a lot of meaningless "Creators have also starred in other works together" examples, which is pretty normal when many voice actors work for the same company, and may be suffering Fan Myopia.
Going by Relationship Voice Actor Wick Check:
- 19% wicks are meaningful "two actors had similar roles in another work", though is effectively Typecasting but with two people.
- 47% just state two actors shared a work and additional 19% feel like listing their entire careers with duplicates in Trivia/ pages.
- 6% don't have a "Relationship".
- 5% may not be relevant to acting.
Options:
- Disambig between Typecasting, Those Two Actors, Casting Gag, and possibly other Characters and Casting tropes.
- Move to Just for Fun to list irony examples of a characters being portrayed by an actors with similar or opposite roles.
Wick check:
Greatest offenders are Trivia.Code Geass and Trivia.Saint Seiya Awakening- Creator.NathalieBienaime -> * Relationship Voice Actor: She and Philippe Roullier voiced father and son on both The Loud House and Horrid Henry.
- Creator.DaisukeOno -> Daisuke is also part of the music industry. He has about six singles (Amaoto, Manatsu no Spica, Kinmokusei, Netsuretsu ANSWER, DELIGHT, and Lunar Maria), one mini-album, titled Hinemosu, and one full album, titled Kazehana. He also hosts a radio show called Dear Girl ~stories~ (as OnoD) with Hiroshi Kamiya, which is very popular in Japan and has even spawned a manga, two DS games, and two feature-length films. As of late, Hiroshi and Daisuke have been cast together in anime (most of the time as foils) way too many times to count. Also, arguably coming close in second with shared roles tends to be another "Daisuke", who happens to be Daisuke Kishio.
- Creator.MargaretMcDonald -> * Relationship Voice Actor: With Caitlynn French in Tamako Market, Girls und Panzer, Little Busters!, and The Ambition Of Oda Nobuna. In all these cases, Margaret is cast as the outgoing and friendly character, while Caitlynn is cast as the quiet and more reserved character in a Red Oni, Blue Oni pair.
- VideoGame.MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots -> * Relationship Voice Actor: In the Japanese version, Big Boss is voiced by Chikao Ohtsuka and Solid Snake is voiced by Akio Ohtsuka, the father and the son, respectively. Word of God stated that this was deliberately invoked because they weren't on speaking terms prior to this.
- Trivia.MyLoveStory -> * Relationship Voice Actor: A roundabout version in the English dub. Luci Christian plays Takeo in the flashbacks of when he was younger. It's not the first time that Luci has played a Love Interest to Tia Ballard, even if not in the same scenes.
- Trivia.PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice -> * Relationship Voice Actor: This is not the first time Orion Acaba and Matthew Mercer have played two former friends who end up coming into conflict over their ideals.
- Trivia.NarutoTheMovieBloodPrison -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Muku is the son of Mui once again.
- Trivia.ReadyJetGo -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Ashleigh Ball and Ian James Corlett are once again paired up as nephew and uncle, after Dinosaur Train with Gilbert and the Conductor.
- Trivia.WWWWorking -> * Relationship Voice Actor: It isn't the first time Yuta and Shiho have played love interests. They were Slaine and Asseylum before.
- Trivia.StarWarsTheCloneWars -> * Relationship Voice Actor: "Witches of the Mist" wasn't the first time one of Corey Burton's characters abused one of Clancy Brown's characters.
- Trivia.StarWarsTheCloneWars -> * Relationship Voice Actor: "Altar of Mortis" has an impossibly powerful Force-user played by Sam Witwer fighting his Good Counterpart, voiced by Adrienne Wilkinson, ala The Force Unleashed.
- Trivia.StarWarsTheCloneWars -> * Relationship Voice Actor: "Eminence" features a Clancy Brown character and a Kevin Michael Richardson character fighting again.
- Trivia.StarWarsTheCloneWars -> * Relationship Voice Actor: "Conspiracy" and "Fugitive" has a Dee Bradley Baker character teaming up with a Ben Diskin character to stop an evil plot.
- Trivia.ValkyriaChronicles -> Relationship Voice Actor: Welkin is also Zaka's superior and commander in Gintama.
- Creator.DaichuMizushima -> * Jun Kudou in Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei (Relationship Voice Actor with Ai Nonaka as Kafuka Fuura)
- ShipToShipCombat.WesternAnimation -> ** Seventh Sister/Kanan was considered upon the announcement of the former character as well as who their voice actors were, but ended up not garnering much attention as the two barely interacted, the Inquisitors ended up with an unpopular reputation with their story arc, and Kanera completely overshadowed it.
- Trivia.NoGameNoLife -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Sora and Shiro are what happens if Sorata and Mashiro are siblings instead of lovers, and the latter applies her skills to gaming instead of art.
- Trivia.UchuSentaiKyuranger -> * Relationship Voice Actor: In the third episode of Let's Star Change Together!, Champ and Garu have a sparring match on a beach planet. Their fight is almost reminiscent of Blackbeard vs. Zoro. (Examples Are Uncertain?)
- Trivia.MazeMegaburstSpace -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Tomokazu Seki and Sakura Tange later voiced Touya and Sakura Kinomoto in Cardcaptor Sakura.
- Creator.CaitlinGlass -> In 2006, Glass began her first major directing project, Suzuka. Glass is one of a select few directors working on Funimation's dub of One Piece. In 2008, she completed Ouran High School Host Club as well as playing the lead role of Haruhi in the show (and once again pairing up with Vic Mignogna — cue mass Squee). Along with directing, Caitlin enjoys adapting theme songs for FUNimation dubs, and can occasionally be heard singing them.
- Creator.KatsumiSuzuki -> Katsumi Suzuki (born August 5, 1956) is a Japanese voice actor who replaced the deceased Ginzo Matsuo as Kagome's grandfather in Inuyasha and is best known as the voice of Diddy Kong in many of Nintendo's games. Had a Relationship Voice Actor with Takashi Nagasako.
- Characters.CaseClosedShihoMiyano -> *** Which is a shame as Megumi Hayashibara and Yuko Miyamura are also costars in another popular framchise. (Also YMMV, also has a typo)
- Trivia.CarmenGotExpelled -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Carmen and Evonne are voiced by Grey DeLisle and Tara Strong, respectively. They have starred in a lot of the same shows together.
- Creator.KozueYoshizumi -> Relationship Voice Actor with Kiyomi Asai, her co-voice actor in Rumbling Hearts, with whom she formed a duo named "UYAMUYA".
- Trivia.InvaderZim -> * Relationship Voice Actor: In the Japanese dub, Naomi Nagasawa and Ayumi Kida voiced together in the Japanese version of Yin Yang Yo! as Yang and Yuck, respectively, ironically enough with the protagonist and antagonist roles switched.
- TheGhost.LiveActionTV -> ** The trope and character were referenced in an episode of The Simpsons, where Bart covers Cecil Terwilliger's eyes and says "guess who", to distract him. Cecil, voiced by David Hyde Pierce, Niles's actor, guesses "Maris?"
- Trivia.MySims -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Greg Cipes and Scott Menville (a. k. a. Beast Boy and Robin, respectively) provided voice types for the games. You can notice their voices in characters like Buddy (Cipes) and Chaz (Menville).
- Trivia.StrawberryShortcake -> * Relationship Voice Actor: From the Italian dub of the 2003 series: Antonella Baldini (Rainbow Sherbet) and Maura Cenciarelli (Honey Pie Pony) have also worked together on Sonic X, Sonic Boom, and PAW Patrol.
- Trivia.WacchaPriMagi -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Rie Hikisaka (Chimumu) and Yui Ogura (Hanitan) previously worked together on HuGtto! Pretty Cure as Hana Nono and Homare Kagayaki respectively.
- Trivia.ReadyJetGo -> * Relationship Voice Actor: William Ainscough (Sean) and Jaeda Lily Miller (Mindy) previously starred together as Zach and Hayley respectively in the 2014 film The Christmas Secret.
- Trivia.ReadyJetGo -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Spencer Drever (Mitchell in season 1) and Dalila Bela (Sydney in season 1) both starred in Diary of a Wimpy Kid - Rodrick Rules as Harry Gilbertson and Taylor Pringle, respectively.
- Trivia.ReadyJetGo -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Hungarian dub: István Baráth (Sean) and Adrienn Pekár (Sydney) have also appeared in the Hungarian dub of PAW Patrol as Rubble and Skye, respectively.
- Trivia.WWWWorking -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Daisuke and Hana are Yohei and Mizuki. Meaning that, within the same universe, they are love interests and siblings. Huh. Speaking of retained actors in the same universe, Sayuri and Izumi. (Natter)
- Trivia.WWWWorking -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Kouki, Yuuta and Adachi are skating in another world.
- Trivia.WWWWorking -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Daisuke, Yuta, and Sakaki are Bruno, Giorno, and Mista.
- Trivia.SSSSDynazenon -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Gauma, Yomogi, and Koyomi are all idols under 315 Production: Gauma as Michiru Enjoji, Yomogi as Rui Maita, and Koyomi as Kyoji Takajo.
- Trivia.SSSSDynazenon -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Yomogi and Koyomi were previously enemies as Jona and Zoltan.
- Trivia.SSSSDynazenon -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Yomogi, Onija, and Sizumu are Yuji Itadori, Megumi Fushigoro, and Toge Inumaki respectively.
- Trivia.StarWarsTheCloneWars -> * Relationship Voice Actor: "Lair of Grievous" features Matthew Wood's character being attended to by David Acord's character; the two actors work for Skywalker Sound.
- Trivia.TheLegendOfTheLegendaryHeroes -> Relationship Voice Actor: Here we go again with Daisuke Ono and Tomokazu Sugita.]]
- Trivia.TheLegendOfTheLegendaryHeroes -> Relationship Voice Actor: And now we have both Jun Fukuyama and Takahiro Sakurai of Code Geass fame. It's a pretty major role-reversal too.
- Trivia.Persona4DancingAllNight -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Yu and Rise are Michael and Nena Trinity.
- Trivia.Persona4DancingAllNight -> * Relationship Voice Actor: In the English version, Yu and Rise are Kung Jin and Cassie Cage, respectively.
- Trivia.YoureUnderArrest -> Relationship Voice Actor: AnimEigo's English dub has Belldandy and Skuld from Ah! My Goddess as Miyuki and Yoriko.
- Trivia.YoureUnderArrest -> Relationship Voice Actor: Miyuki and Yoriko would later voice in Sgt. Frog as Aki Hinata and Private Tamama respectively, in fact the series even has Tamama reference Kozakura's role as Yoriko at one point. (That's Casting Gag amd also should have been on that page)
- Trivia.YesPrettyCure5 -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Daniela Calò (Megumi) and Cinzia De Carolis (Hadenya) have also worked together on Turning Red as sisters Ming and Chen.
- Trivia.ValkyriaChronicles -> Relationship Voice Actor: The father-son duo are playing Jaeger and Gregor, which is also a case of Real-Life Relative.
- Trivia.BGataHKei -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Yui Horie and Yukari Tamura are back together.
- Trivia.BGataHKei -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Atsushi Abe and Mamiko Noto were Touma Kamijou and Aisa Himegami. Here, they're Takashi Kosuda and Kazuki Kosuda who are little brother and older sister.
- Trivia.Fallout4 -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Katy Townsend (Cait) and Ryan Alosio (Deacon) were friends before they were even cast in the game. In the same vein, Courtenay Taylor (Female Sole Survivor) and Keythe Farley (Kellogg) were close friends as well, making their characters' hostile interactions even better.
- Creator.ShinichiroMiki -> Shin-ichiro Miki (born March 18, 1968), also can be spelt as "Shinichirou/Shin'ichirou Miki", is one of the members of the Weiss Kreuz group, alongside Takehito Koyasu, Hiro Yuki and Tomokazu Seki, the last of whom happens to be a good friend of his, with quite a few relationships in the history of their business. Miki's voice is mostly on the cool and laid-back side, however he can do Hot-Blooded types and even suavely sexy villains as well.
- Funny.StarWarsRebels -> ** For a meta-humor level, that was a character voiced by Freddie Prinze Jr. saying that to a character voiced by his wife, Sarah Michelle Gellar.
- Creator.YuriLowenthal -> * Relationship Voice Actor: A literal case of this is with his wife voice actress Tara Platt, whom he has worked on several projects together.
- Creator.PatrickSeitz -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Has dubbed several character originally voiced by Hiroki Yasumoto: Germany, Han, Agni, Agil, Nekomaru Nidai... and there's Verdia.
- ActorAllusion.AnimeAndManga -> * Yosuga no Sora does this with a Relationship Voice Actor. Haruka and Sora ride a bicycle as their transportation in town. In ef - a fairy tale of the two., Hiro and Miyako also ride a bicycle as their transportation.
- Trivia.TheCareBearsMovie -> * Relationship Voice Actor: While never interacting with each other, Mickey Rooney voices Adult Nicholas, while Billie Mae Richards voices Tenderheart Bear. Prior to this film, Billie voiced Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, while Mickey Rooney voiced Santa Claus in Rankin/Bass' 1979 feature film Rudolph and Frosty's Christmas in July.
- Trivia.BloodstainedRitualOfTheNight -> * Relationship Voice Actor: A cross-language example: Johannes' Japanese and English voice actors are Jonathan and his grandson young Joseph.
- Trivia.StarWarsTheCloneWars -> * Relationship Voice Actor: The seventh season features Ray Park and Sam Witwer provide the motion capture and voice of Maul respectively. They previously did something similar for Maul's appearance in Solo (with Park as the physical actor).
- Trivia.SaintSeiyaAwakening -> ("260 lines long list")
- Trivia.LegoMarvelSuperHeroes2 -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Quite a few voice actors (including Skye Bennett (Pyra and Mythra), David Menkin (Malos), John Schwab (Jin), Teresa Gallagher (Azami), etc.) who worked on Xenoblade Chronicles 2 also worked on this game.
- Trivia.TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 -> * Relationship Voice Actor: The Shredder, the Kraang, Chris Bradford, Victor Falco, and Tyler Rockwell are Bulkhead, Smokescreen, Silas, Ratchet, and Megatron.
- Creator.MamikoNoto -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Lots and lots. Including some of her School Rumble alumni like Ami Koshimizu, Yui Horie and Kaori Shimizu, or the MORE PEACH SUMMER SHOW members.
- Trivia.LastAlert -> * Relationship Voice Actor: The game is basically a reunion of most of the Japanese voice cast from Fist of the North Star: Guy is Kenshiro, Dr. Garcia is Souther, Dr. Leonard and Col. Kadat are Jagi, Col. Dark is Uighur, Zeed and many other mooks and characters, and Chairman Steve (Masato Hirano) is Garou.
- Trivia.CromartieHighSchool -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Some of the Japanese voice actors in the cast have shared credits in other series directed by Hiroaki Sakurai, especially in the Di Gi Charat franchise. Besides cameos voiced by Asami Sanada (Dejiko), Megumi Hayashibara (Piyoko), and Miyuki Sawashiro (Puchiko), there's also Ryo Naitou (Takeshi, Paul in Di Gi Charat Nyo) as Takenouchi, Norihisa Mori (Yoshimi, John in Di Gi Charat Nyo) as Hokuto, Yuji Ueda (Abarenbou) as Ishikawa, and Mika Kanai (Kinako Ankoro in Di Gi Charat Nyo) as Mechazawa Beta. The English dub cast share a lot of people that were involved in the Gantz dub. It's easy to count who wasn't in Cromartie.
- Trivia.Bugsnax -> From Persona: Filbo, Beffica, Clumbernut, Gramble, and Chandlo are Ryuji, Morgana/Aika, Shinya, Teddie, and the Persona 3 Protagonist/Yosuke, respectively. From Assassin's Creed II: Snorpy and Chandlo are Ezio Auditore and Vieri di Pazzi, respectively.
- Trivia.BloodstainedRitualOfTheNight -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Miriam and Johannes are Raffina and Sig (and Lemres), as well as Roll and Mega Man. Zangetsu, Gebel, and Miriam are Snake, Roy, and Futaba.
- Trivia.PackagesFromPlanetX -> * Relationship Voice Actor: About half of all the show's actors have done voice work on My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic or George of the Jungle (2007). Brian Drummond (the voice of Corpernicus) and Tabitha St. Germain (the voice of Calimary) have also worked together on shows such as Krypto the Superdog, Martha Speaks and Pucca. Kathleen Barr (who voices many incidental characters) and Ty Olsson (the voice of Troll) have previously worked together on Dragon Tales.
- Creator.YuriLowenthal -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Normally works with Johnny Yong Bosch in many anime and video games. They'll usually either be the Red Oni, Blue Oni duo (Yuri's Yosuke and Johnny's MC/Souji/Yu in Persona 4 and Yuri's Simon and Johnny's Rossiu in Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann) or one of them will be The Rival to the other (Yuri's Suzaku to Johnny's Lelouch in Code Geass). He also shares frigging six roles with Akira Ishida: Roger from Jeanne d'Arc, Noriyuki Takahashi from Nodame Cantabile, Goro Kusaka from Submarine 707 R, Protagonist/Minato Arisato/Makoto Yuki AND Ryoji Mochizuki in Persona 3, and Amane Nishiki from BlazBlue: Chronophantasma. Other people he's known to work with from time to time: Kari Wahlgren, Dave Wittenberg, Kate Higgins, Liam O'Brien, Erin Fitzgerald, Crispin Freeman, and Steve Blum.
- Trivia.WarriorsAllStars -> * Relationship Voice Actor: (many "also" examples)
- Trivia.YoureUnderArrest -> Relationship Voice Actor: In the Latin-American dub made in Chile, Natsumi and Miyuki are Ryoko and Ayeka, while Aoi and Yoriko are Mihoshi and Kiyone AND Tokairin is Tenchi.
- Trivia.YesPrettyCure5 -> * Relationship Voice Actor: In the Italian dub: Maura Cenciarelli (Mika) and Tatiana Dessi (Cure Rouge) have also worked together on Futari wa Pretty Cure, HeartCatch Pretty Cure!, PAW Patrol, The Save-Ums!, and Rugrats.
- Trivia.BGataHKei -> * Relationship Voice Actor: Brittney Karbowski (Yamada) and Cherami Leigh (Takeshita) voiced Black Star and Patty Thompson in Soul Eater as well as Wendy Marvell and Lucy Heartfilia in Fairy Tail. They as well as the majority of the English cast have been reunited in Academy City.
- Main.ThoseTwoActors -> See also Double Acts and Groups, Production Posse and Only So Many Canadian Actors. Unrelated to, but may overlap with, Those Two Guys. For the Voice Acting version, see Relationship Voice Actor.
- Trivia.PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 ->
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 1:06:34 PM
Paging ~Amonimus to the thread. Anyway, I'd prefer to disambiguate this or redirect to Characters and Casting over moving it to JFF.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 20th 2023 at 4:27:07 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Disambiguate. As I've said before, I generally prefer disambiguating to redirecting in TRS as it captures more possible uses and aids in wick cleaning.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallMoving to Just for Fun.
Disambiguate
I Want You to Meet an Old Friend of Mine should go there too.
I'd like to apologize for all this.Disambig
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?disambig. I feel like any "these two characters showed up together in a different work/played similar roles in a different work" is just Casting Gag and examples can be moved over there
I vote Just for Fun. It's nice seeing which voice actors have worked together over the course of their careers, and it'd be nice to keep that in some regard.
Trust no one.This feels like an item that tropers look into and add because it's fun. I vote to make this JFF.
No harm in moving this to JFF.
Edited by selkies on Jan 20th 2023 at 7:39:53 PM
I'm pretty sure I'll end up using a crowner for this thread regardless of where post-based votes go, considering it's already this split early on.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 20th 2023 at 11:19:35 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.You know, maybe we should move to JFF, based on the reasoning provided by others here.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallWe can also remake into a Just for Fun page then make Main.Relationship Voice Actor a disambig between mentioned and the new page.
Edited by Amonimus on Jan 20th 2023 at 9:19:20 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI'm with this option if it's acceptable.
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker MailDon't forget Only So Many Canadian Actors
Kirby is awesome.Making this JFF would make it redundant with Role Association, honestly.
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Edited by Karxrida on Jan 20th 2023 at 2:56:45 AM
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?Agreed, disambig. On page examples can maybe be moved there.
Edited by Synchronicity on Jan 20th 2023 at 6:07:23 AM
Agreeing with Amonimus idea
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/AI wonder if we can just redirect completely to Role Association then. That seems like the halfway solution between disambiging (getting rid of the trope) and creaeting a JFF page out of it
Edited by amathieu13 on Jan 20th 2023 at 7:53:22 AM
JustForFun.Role Association is about taking the summary of a work but replacing the characters with characters from other works by actors. I'm not sure it's similar enough, but whatever gets this page dewicked.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI don't think they're similar enough.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jan 20th 2023 at 7:49:50 AM
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hard to JFF. If most of the usage basically boils down to listing the voice actor's career histories, it's redundant to the Creator pages and is useless even as a JFF.
You know what, I agree with amathieu. Redirect
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI don't see JustForFun.Role Association being similar enough for a redirect. And if a JFF page exists for Role Association, I think it's fine for a JFF for Relationship Voice Actor to exist for the people who care about it, so for that.
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Continuing from Trope Talk, it got apparent that Relationship Voice Actor has grown a lot of meaningless "Creators have also starred in other works together" examples, which is pretty normal when many voice actors work for the same company, and may be suffering Fan Myopia. What should be done with Relationship Voice Actor?
To-do list:
Continuing from Trope Talk, it got apparent that Relationship Voice Actor has grown a lot of meaningless "Creators have also starred in other works together" examples, which is pretty normal when many voice actors work for the same company, and may be suffering Fan Myopia.
Going by Relationship Voice Actor Wick Check:
Options:
Wick check:
Greatest offenders are Trivia.Code Geass and Trivia.Saint Seiya AwakeningEdited by GastonRabbit on Jan 26th 2023 at 1:06:34 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.