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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#177151: Mar 5th 2021 at 11:44:59 PM

Besides Dota, Warhammer 40000 and League of Legends, what other franchises are we on pause overhauling before we can propose new entries?

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#177152: Mar 6th 2021 at 12:41:26 AM

[up] SCP Foundation seems to be a part of that category.

@Crimson

[tup]

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Mar 6th 2021 at 12:41:56 PM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#177153: Mar 6th 2021 at 12:47:26 AM

Can I put my two cents on what I think needs overhauling/updating?

Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#177154: Mar 6th 2021 at 1:01:29 AM

@Crimson [tup] for that tragic duo.

The Fight Continues!
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#177155: Mar 6th 2021 at 1:28:19 AM

@troperbb: My biggest individual characters group profile is the rework/ascension of the Heroes of the World of Balance a.k.a. the Final Fantasy VI party at 14 members, with the Nightwings prior to that at 11. My biggest one period is the Etrian Odyssey guilds, numbering up to potentially 210 members, though they're grouped by guilds since it spans six long games and they're nigh-featureless Player Characters. Take from that what you will.

Repost due to lack of feedback.

Over on Discord, I volunteered to rework Igor. It's still for the trope Creepy Good since he's a balding, unnaturally thin hunchback with bloodshot eyes, a long, hooked nose, and a Cheshire Cat Grin that borders on a Slasher Smile, yet he's one of the most benevolent figures in the franchise, serving as a kind and encouraging Spirit Advisor to the protagonists.

And frankly, I don't see any superior substitutes.

Feedback Mode

Ronald Bilius "Ron" Weasley, God of Unreasonably Disliked Heroes (Ickle Ronnikins, Wheezy, Won-Won, Roonil Wazlib, Weaselby, "another Weasley", Master of Mystery, Ronnie the Bear, Barny Weasley, Dragomir Despard)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ron_weasley_deathly_hallows_part_1_portrait.jpg
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: Chudley Cannons Memorabilia, and his Chocolate Frog card
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Surviving Terrible Odds and Bad Luck, Portrayed As Less Awesome In The Films Than In The Books, Audience Surrogate, Classical Anti-Hero, The Everyman In Wizarding World Terms, Belligerent Sexual Tension With Hermione, Complex of Inferiority With Friends and Family, Second-Youngest of Seven Siblings, Well-Versed in Wizarding World Lore and Culture, Brutal Honesty, Perpetual Poverty, Undying Loyalty, Needing To Be Convinced That He's Better, Negative Portrayals by Fanfic Writers
  • Domains: Magic, Friendship, Comic Relief, Fan Hate
  • Followers: Flay Allster, Alain
  • Allies:
  • Enemies: Draco Malfoy (neutral terms nowadays), Lord Voldemort and the rest of the Death Eaters
  • Fears: All spiders
  • Opposed by: Harmoanians (those who ship Hermione with Harry)
  • Opposes: Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way
  • The fanbase can be an incredibly fickle thing. It doesn't matter what your alignment is, someone will find a way to somehow rationalize you to be the opposite, be you good or bad, and successfully convince others of this ideal.
    • During the early days of the Pantheon, due to being the Trope Namers, two of the most prominent classmates in Harry Potter's life, Ron Weasley and Draco Malfoy, ascended to the Pantheon some time after Harry himself was secured a place there, and represented the two ways fans can warp their perception of a character's alignment.
  • As for who he is, Ron was Harry Potter's very first friend in the Wizarding World. having met during their first trip on the Hogwarts Express. It was further solidified when Draco Malfoy badmouthed Ron, electing Harry to turn him down and stick with his first friend. Despite their ups and downs due to Ron's insecurities, he's stuck with Harry when he needed it the most; a "foul-weather friend"note , if you will.
  • Ron did not know what to expect when he first ascended, but he did not expect to be met with such… vehement polarization.
  • Given that the movies are the most common image of Ron, not many know his original book feat(ure)s, like how he actually has more insightful moments (plus some that got attributed to Hermione), he's more shrewd and competent than most think, and that in the book it was Hermione who panicked at the Devil's Snare while it was he who got her to focus on remembering its weakness.
  • His Arachnophobia stems from young Fred and George transfiguring Ron's teddy bear into a giant spider. While her fears extend to more than just arachnids, he gets along with Misty in regards to their phobias.
  • Is actually good at mimicking voices, including Wormtail, and even Parseltongue to open the Chamber of Secrets (though it also seems to help that the chamber entrance was detecting phonemes rather than language).
  • Established a "Disliked Heroes Anonymous" club for… well, heroes disliked by their audiences.
  • While he was just as dependent on Hermione on homework as Harry was, he still has a great tactical mind, and is well-versed in wizard folklore and culture even she doesn't know.
  • Speaking of Hermione, there are those who wonder just how they actually started getting together.
    • It began at first year during their adventures with Harry, starting at the battle against the Troll at the Girl's Bathroom when the two boys had to save her.
    • His affection for her were made manifest at second year, with jealousy towards Gilderoy Lockhart, him defending her against Draco for his insult, and his greater distress than Harry's upon discovering her petrified.
    • In third year, there was some tension due to her Crookshanks going after Scabbers (before he was eventually revealed to he Peter Pettigrew) but they made up thanks to Hagrid. He even had the cojones to stand up to Snape when he called Hermione an "insufferable know-it-all".
    • In fourth year, romantic feelings for one another began to grow and become more obvious, and harbored jealousies on each others' crushes at the time (Fleur Delacour and Viktor Krum).
    • His inability to realize and act on his feelings would frustrate Hermione all the way to fifth year, though she does kiss him before his first Quidditch game as Keeper.
    • Sixth year would be a trying time when he was the only one in the trio to be passed over by Professor Slughorn. His learning of Hermione snogging Krum back in fourth year, and her "lack of faith" in his ability after Harry pretended to spike his drink with Felix Felicis, worsened things. This resulted in a brief fling with Lavender Brown that thankfully did not last long, though he and Hermione made up after he was accidentally poisoned with mead on his birthday. He also comforted her as she wept during Dumbledore's funeral.
    • As for seventh year, they danced together at Bill Weasley and Fleur's wedding, he comforted her several times during the Horcrux hunt, he offered to vouch for Hermione as his cousin when they were told of the Ministry's crackdown on Muggleborns, and he tried in vain to get Bellatrix to torture him instead of Hermione when they were captured. And during the Battle of Hogwarts, his concern for the house-elves (of whom she had been fighting for their rights since fourth year) eventually culminated in her giving him the Big Damn Kiss.
  • Many prayers in his temple are death threats due to his relationship with Hermione, and the misguided females at Draco's temple built an annex in his temple to diss Ron.
    • Many of these threats eventually stopped coming, namely due to the wrath of Harry and Hermione, especially the latter.
  • The only thing he and Draco can agree on is their hatred of Ebony. And it's worse now that she's here, and their neighbor to boot (though more Draco than Ron due to the Slytherin sharing Halls with her).
  • Was joyed to see his twin brothers ascend, especially Fred, who had died during the Second Wizarding War. At times, whenever the hate to his temple becomes a bit much for him, he does part-time work at their joke shop, having taken Fred's place as co-manager in the mortal realm.
  • Encountered another Harry Potter one day who was being a bit too chummy with Draco (and having seen him before at the joke shop, plus having heard of him through Harry and Hermione). This Harry had nothing to say to Ron however given they never became friends in his timeline, and given how pretentious this Harry can get, Ron could see why. Rational Harry also has trouble comprehending what Hermione sees in Ron to eventually marry him.
    • Rational Harry has also expressed desire in seeing if Draco can learn to has enough happy thoughts of his parents that can render him able to summon a Patronus just like his world's Draco. Ron and the Slytherin were both skeptical of this working, but Rational Harry took it as a challenge.
  • Having been regarded as the most incompetent in his trio, he can relate to Akko Kagari in regards to being seen as inferior, even though most of that was just in a relative level (between the highly academic Hermione and and the famous Harry) and much of it being in his own mind. He and the rest of Hogwarts also harbor interest in Luna Nova Academy and its representatives.

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What interaction can he have with that Flexington guy?

"Wassap, motherfucker!"

Detective Isaac Washington Jr., God of Excessive Swearing

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Edited by nightelf37 on Mar 6th 2021 at 6:24:49 PM

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Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#177156: Mar 6th 2021 at 1:54:26 AM

[up] [tup] for Igor rework

Now that I think about it, he could relinquish his Position as Guardian and move to a Hall in Dread and Valor...

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Mar 6th 2021 at 2:34:50 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
Oggy123 Kirby from Jakarta, Indonesia Since: Oct, 2013
Kirby
#177157: Mar 6th 2021 at 2:08:34 AM

Posting Hinawa again. I already have 2 [tup]s, right? Any suggestions?

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Hinawa, Patron Saint of Sunflowers (Amber)

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Hinawa
  • Potential House: Trees and Flowers
  • Quasideity
  • Symbol: A single sunflower. Alternatively, a picture of her with her sons and husband.
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Good Parents, Killed Off for Real, Missing Mom to Lucas, those too Pure for the World
  • Domains: Flowers, Mothers, Death
  • Allies: Lucas, Toriel, Frisk, Seita and Setsuko, Flowey and his Confidants, Harry and his Dinosaurs, Bix, Neweyes' Dinosaurs
  • Opposes: Galeem, Dharkon, Ragyo Kiryuin, Monika Drevis
  • Odd Friendship with: Mufasa, Simba, The Gang of Seven, the Brontosaurus
  • Pities: Flowey, Asgore, those with deceased mothers, Speckles
  • Conflicting Opinion/Sympathy for the Devil: Porky Minch
  • Avoids: Indominus rex and Indoraptor, One Eye
  • A kind soul, Hinawa was once a human woman who lived with her family in the Nowhere Island. She however, perished after facing a mechanical Tyrannosaurus rex known as a "Mecha Drago", with one of its fangs having pierced her heart. Even so, she appears as a spirit, once to help Lucas escape and once to save Claus from Porky's manipulation.
    • One day, Lucas is exploring the house of Trees and Flowers when he ends up in a vast field of sunflowers. There, he encounters his mother as a spirit. He then hugs her, crying. After much begging, the Main Gods decides to make her a Goddess of Sunflowers.
  • Her temple takes the appearance of a vast field of sunflowers. Lucas would often visit it to mingle with his mom and collect flowers.
  • Shortly after her ascension, she finds out about Toriel, who is known for raising a few children, including Frisk. Hearing about her endeavor, she praises them and gets along with the two swimmingly, even comparing the two with herself and Lucas.
    • After this encounter, she found out about Asgore. She pities him, due to his association with golden flowers, like she does, and his actions causing his wife to turn her back on him. She often mingles with him, mainly to comfort him.
  • Appears in the Pantheon as a spirit, mainly towards Lucas and most non-hostile child deities. Due to this, she develops a friendship with Mufasa, who also appears in ghost form, despite one being a lion and the other being a human. Incidentally, this also earns her a friendship with Simba.
  • Surprisingly, she gets along with Flowey, despite his apparent hostility towards her and to the chagrin and bafflement of most. In truth, Flowey is actually not only friendly towards her, he behaves and reminds her very much of Lucas, her own son during his days as a monster. Hinawa sympathizes with him mainly because of his predicament. She was also made aware of his Confidants, and that Frisk leads them.
  • Once, Galeem captured her spirit and forces her into his army of Puppet Fighters. When Hinawa discovered Galeem and Dharkon is in the Pantheon, she doesn't really take it well. Galeem and Dharkon (mainly the former) have become some of the few deities she truly dislikes.
  • Even she felt sorry for Porky Minch to an extent, mainly because of his childhood and backstory, being seemingly on bad terms with his parents and may or may not have been corrupted by Giygas. Still, she doesn't really like him due to him being responsible for her demise.
  • She obviously displays sympathy for those with deceased mothers (or just parents in general). When she heard about the tale of Seita and Setsuko, who have lost their parents and ultimately perished in a war, she appeared before them and told them that she pities and cares about them.
  • There are various dinosaurs in the Pantheon similar to the Dragos Hinawa and her children used to play with. Her opinions about them vary:
    • She generally doesn't wander too close to Indominus rex and Indoraptor, since the genetically engineered dinosaurs reminds him of the Mecha-Drago, a cyborg dinosaur that did her in. Others, such as Rexie, can be tolerated by her, though she is wary about them antagonizing Lucas.
    • A dinosaur she does get along with is Littlefoot and the gang. She sympathizes with Littlefoot due to his mother being killed by Sharptooth, similar to her death in the hands of the Mecha-Drago. She's also friends with Harry and his dinosaurs, Bix, and Neweyes' dinosaurs due to them being as friendly as the Dragos back on her island.
    • Another dinosaur she opposes is One Eye, a Tyrannosaurus rex that has killed the mother of Speckles, a Tarbosaurus. She took pity of Speckles for the same reasons as Littlefoot. Especially considering how truly sadistic the dinosaur is in dealing with its prey, she considers him a threat and is worried that he might try to go after Lucas.
    • She heard the story of the Brontosaurus of the Lost World, who was taken away against its will by humans who want to make it an attraction. She felt pity of it, especially considering her homeland dealt with the Pigmasks who does detestable things, such as experimentation, to wildlife, somewhat paralleling what the dinosaur had dealt with. She even sometimes mingles with it.
  • There are a few mothers in the Pantheon she's not fond of. This includes Ragyo Kiryuin and Monika Drevis, the former for doing horrid things to her daughters, such as attacking one of them and throwing the other into the garbage, and betraying humanity to the Life Fibers, the latter for essentially trying to manipulate her daughter and wanting to make her a serial killer.

Edited by Oggy123 on Mar 6th 2021 at 5:09:06 PM

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#177158: Mar 6th 2021 at 5:30:05 AM

[up][tup] for Hinawa. Please try to count which troper gave you one. Did I already? Also, like with Mufasa, I think it's alright for Hinawa to go around as a regular human in the Pantheon, maybe going around as a spirit if she bites it, instead of "waiting" for ressurrection. Only count my [tup] once you've added info pertaining to what I said here.

[down]Well, if you got something, please share with the class. Just this past month, I've introduced the main characters of Eryi's Action and Sakuna Of Rice And Ruin.

Edited by nightelf37 on Mar 6th 2021 at 9:35:20 PM

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CelPrevXXVI Adm. Meijin Kawaguchi XXVI, KCMP, Ordo Gundarius Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Adm. Meijin Kawaguchi XXVI, KCMP, Ordo Gundarius
#177159: Mar 6th 2021 at 5:32:30 AM

Hello everyone. Having gone on an absurdly long hiatus from Pantheon-related activity. Now I'm just a semi-retired passer-by, peeking over how the Pantheon has grown.

Anyways, on to my inquiry for today: have noticed that there's no ascended deity for Azur Lane characters yet. Nor are there pending suggestions for the matter.

P.S. Just bcoz I'm raising an AL query doesn't mean I've abdicated myself from anything related to KanColle. Putting that up, in case anyone calls me out on it.

[nja]

Edited by CelPrevXXVI on Mar 6th 2021 at 9:34:18 PM

Sed regresso retributio. Carpe Diem. Deus lo Vult...
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Bad Movie Binge Collector
#177160: Mar 6th 2021 at 6:42:53 AM

[up]Taihou, Bremerton, Illustrious, Formidable, Atago, and...

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#177161: Mar 6th 2021 at 7:51:38 AM

Suggestion time!

  • Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen, the Red Baron (The Red Baron, Rittmeister von Richthofen, Der Rote Kampfflieger, The Red Battle Flyer, The Red Fighter Pilot, The Ace of Aces) (Gamma)
    • Potential House: Nicknames and Renames
    • Reasoning: With thousands of media appearances, cameos, parodies, satires, allusions, archetypes and documentation made on him, the gentleman officer Manfred von Richthofen cemented his status as the very first ace fighter pilot with 80 confirmed victories. With his trademark colours of scarlet, iconic nickname and status as the hero of the German Empire, Richtofen paved the way for the push for a modern German air force, the Luftwaffe and greatly contributed to the advancement of aerial warfare. Even today, he is celebrated as one of the greatest examples of German patriotism and iconography, unlikely to be forgotten for the foreseeable future.

  • The Chimera Corpsnotable members , the Elite Army (Breniss: One-Shot Killer, Brenev Auggs, Lt Col. Breniss Ox/Ox-chūsa | Uma: Blue Lightning | Johnny: Red Blitz, Crimson Lightning, Maj. Johnny Ridden, Johnny Depp, Led Wayline | Matsunaga: White Wolf of Solomon, Lt. Shin Matsunaga, Grey Wolf | Donahue: Thunderclap in the Wilderness) (Gamma)
    • Potential House: Armies
    • Reasoning: Formed at the tail end of the One Year War, the Chimera Corps was formed as an Oldtype countermeasure against Char Aznable's 300th Independent Newtype Corps if they were ever to rebel. Given this, this task force formed the elite echelon of the Principality as it was made up of its best aces, all transferred from defunct posts on Earth as it was retaken by the Federation or prestigious posts under Zeon flag officers. They were given the best materials and support, like top-of-the-line Gelgoogs (24 of the 25 command types made were given to them while the last was given to Char for testing), maintenance staff who could finish any intended modifications and repairs within half a day. A great number of aces were the frontal force at the Battle of A Baoa Qu, the final battle of the One Year War.

  • The employees of Dunder Mifflin Scranton, The Chosen Employees of the Corporate Office or Work Com (Gamma)
    • Potential House: Social and Recreational Work
    • Reasoning: The proof is in the title... and the place the characters work in. The sales team at Dunder Mifflin Scranton sell paper. And that's it. Nope. They engage in a lot of antics, ranging from romantic to comedic to downright tragic, all within the central location that is the office and warehouse they use in Scranton, Pennsylvania. It has all the trademarks of the typical Work Com location: tight cubical tables with the typical paperwork, computer and telephone; break room; receptionist; separate office for the boss; and different cast members representing Sales, Quality Assurance, Customer Service, Corporate Liaisons, Accounting and the much-maligned (by Michael anyway) Human Resources department in the annex.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Mar 7th 2021 at 12:31:48 AM

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Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#177162: Mar 6th 2021 at 7:52:25 AM

[up][tup] for the first two.

The Fight Continues!
CelPrevXXVI Adm. Meijin Kawaguchi XXVI, KCMP, Ordo Gundarius Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Adm. Meijin Kawaguchi XXVI, KCMP, Ordo Gundarius
#177163: Mar 6th 2021 at 7:56:10 AM

[up]x5: Was thinking of proposing Shinano for Dramatic Ellipsis, considering her dialogues are littered with it. However, with a lot on my plate IRL, I cannot guarantee I can immediately make the portfolio.

The suggestion actually has a two-fold effect: It's both a way to introduce AL into the Pantheon, AND a way to make some rather unique brush-ins with the KanColle roster here, specifically her half-sisters.

[up]x2: Make sure you use his namesake song from Sabaton, while you're at it.

Edited by CelPrevXXVI on Mar 7th 2021 at 12:00:19 AM

Sed regresso retributio. Carpe Diem. Deus lo Vult...
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#177164: Mar 6th 2021 at 8:10:13 AM

[up] Pardon?

Time to explore the world!
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#177165: Mar 6th 2021 at 8:11:06 AM

[up][up]Rather than introducing another gacha-based character that is as one-dimensional as they can be in characterization, there can be good usage of Dramatic Ellipsis. Kyo from Samurai Deeper Kyo is an example. Demon Eyes Kyo is a samurai of legendary origin who is trapped in the body of his most hated enemy and wants to find the location of his real, imprisoned body. As a result he remains reserved of his emotions shown especially in the manga as his speech is consisted of dots to show how reserved he is in his journey

And speaking of Kancolle, are we going to ignore the fact that their profiles are very very barebones and should be dealt with like per say Touhou, League or Dota? I say now would be a good time to bring it up

@Super Just do not use the actual red baron and I can see potential in your first suggestion

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Mar 7th 2021 at 12:15:03 AM

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#177166: Mar 6th 2021 at 8:17:49 AM

[up] I'm using the cultural image of him formed from films and books he's appeared in, that's enough to form a good image of him from his historical counterpart. Chill. I don't want to be pressured beyond belief, especially since whatever the case, he's relatively uncontroversial. Yes, I'm gonna be told all the exceptions, which isn't the right time.

I don't want this to turn into another debate.

[down][down] Good idea, we might be able to combine them.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Mar 7th 2021 at 12:31:29 AM

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Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#177167: Mar 6th 2021 at 8:20:05 AM

@ Cel: Your Azur Lane proposal looks promising. If you can better explain or elaborate in better detail, I might consider approving your idea.

The Fight Continues!
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#177168: Mar 6th 2021 at 8:25:24 AM

Super@Why not use Work Com for The Office since Michael Scott has it already.

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#177169: Mar 6th 2021 at 8:36:00 AM

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Tabuu, God of Silent Villains

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tabuu.png

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#177170: Mar 6th 2021 at 9:03:16 AM

I am guessing that there are no deities who are related to Chinese Civil War here.

Yukikaze, Goddess of Luck Even During The Worst Of Situations (Snowy Wind, Unsinkable Ship, Miracle Destroyer, Yukikaze of Kure, Reaper, Shinigami, Beaver, Hamster, ROCS Dan Yang, Flagship of the Republic of China Navy, Pirate of the Taiwanese Sea)

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Dan Yang 
  • Demigoddess
  • Symbol: A model of the Japanese Destroyer Yukikaze.
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Born Lucky Surrounded by A Lot of Misfortune, one of Sole Survivors of the Imperial Japanese Navy ships, Glass Cannon, Genki Girl, Boisterous Bruiser, Moe Anthropomorphism
  • Domains: Luck, Survivors, Cheeriness, Destroyers
  • Allies: Admiral/"Shiree", the rest of the ascended Fleet Girls (though bit complicated with Atlanta, Nathan Drake, Meifeng Sakura
  • Enemies: All of the ascended Abyssal Fleet girls, Liberty Prime
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: Fleet Admiral Nimitz
  • Historically speaking, the Japanese destroyer Yukikaze was one of the luckiest ships there was. It was a ship that managed to survive through the entirety of World War II with very minor damages, even after taking part of some rather important battles, including Operation Ten-Go. At the same time, the ship was also seen as being cursed by others due to surviving so many battles which others didn't and many of the ships she escorted ended up sinking such as Shinano, Hiei and Yamato. She might have been the "Miracle Destroyer", but it came at the cost of those around her.
  • There is one touchy subject about her history that she doesn't talk too much about, and that is what happened to her after the war, where she was given to China and renamed to Dan Yang. The main reason for it is because of the Chinese Civil War between Republic of China and Communist Party of China, with the latter being driven off to Taiwan, taking Dan Yang with them. The main problem she experiences is that she has no one to really talk to due to the events of the civil war.
    • The situation that Yukikaze is in does lead to a Logic Bomb when it comes to Liberty Prime, as because she is technically Taiwanese under Republic of China, she is not a Communist. Though all what this does is give her time to run away before he can sort his circuits out and attack her anyway.
  • Doesn't really like being compared to HUNK when it comes to surviving events where others have died because she outwardly cares about her teammates.
  • Is commonly compare to rodents due to her rather prominent front teeth.
  • Should not to be confused with a certain warplane. She is a destroyer, after all.
  • Yukikaze will not sink!

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
troperbb Man with a lamp thing on his head from Goiky Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Singularity
Man with a lamp thing on his head
#177171: Mar 6th 2021 at 9:11:18 AM

@Nightelf 37 since you have experience in creating pages with several characters if the BFDI cast gets approved as the gods of Object Shows, would you be willing to help me out? I have some info that can be on the page, but it depends on whether or not you know the series.

Troperbb.
VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#177172: Mar 6th 2021 at 9:19:48 AM

@Tabuu: You should develop the interactions you added. I don't have anything else to suggest

@Hamana: That reminds me that I finished sorting out the Dota 2 cut-list. I'll post it next page because there are only 3 posts left before this one ends

Edited by VengefulBale on Mar 6th 2021 at 11:20:04 AM

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#177173: Mar 6th 2021 at 9:28:49 AM

[up]That reminds me of 2 things: - One, I am still thinking if I can rework Anti-Mage, and Chaos Knight as I have experience playing those two, especially in the original WC 3 mod - Two, mvs is responsible for some of the dota profiles last year, specifically Ezalor, Keeper of the Light and Io the Wisp. Might want to wait till he can send out a reply about it.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
GethN7 Since: Jul, 2013
#177174: Mar 6th 2021 at 9:51:34 AM

I used to be fairly critical of this crowd-sourced fanfic way back in the day, but it's gotten a lot better and addressed a lot of the criticisms I used to have.

That said, Kazuma Kiryu and Goro Majima for the Yakuza series need their information updated since the seventh game is out. Also since the entire concept of the seventh game is based on protagonist Ichiban fantasizing about being a Dragon Quest hero and the gameplay and perception of reality are shown to warp to match, he might be a good candidate for a Your Mind Makes It Real deity or something similar.

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#177175: Mar 6th 2021 at 9:54:28 AM

[up] I intend to rework Kiryu and Majima at some point in the future. Though I will be honest in that it will take some time, considering I have other stuff I would like to do + it's going to be a sizable rabbit hole regarding the Yakuza franchise lore.

Also, Bottom-Posting.

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"

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