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  • Acceptable Targets: Nothing is sacred in this series, but fanbases get ridiculed a lot:
    • Justin Bieber and his fans in from 2012-2016. Bowser was frequently seen as a stereotypical Belieber (he was not this in the earlier videos when he was shown being beaten by Justin Bieber's music, which he described as hurting his ears). A giant Bieber appeared as a monster in "super Minecraft 64 bloopers: Legend of steve", and "Baby" has been used as a weapon several times. He's also one of the Teletubbies' berserk buttons.
    • The Twilight saga was also mocked to a lesser extent in the classic era. Super Mario Twilight is the title of a truly disgusting in-universe movie and other anti-Twilight jokes are littered through episodes.
    • From 2017-2019, anything Anime-related, including fanbases, were heavily ridiculednote . The most pronounced example of this was Fishy Boopkins, via Flanderization, becoming a walking stereotype of all the negative traits associated with anime fans from "High School Mario" onward. After the Anime Arc however, anime has been embraced more than mocked.
    • Starting in 2018, YouTube, hilariously, became this. "Mario's Preschool" and "The Day SMG4 Posted Cringe" mock the guidelines and the direction of the site. In the latter video, the CEO is introduced, depicted as a velociraptor with Gruntilda's voice who serves as a minor antagonist from then on. It gotten to the point that it pretty much got an entire story arc centered it!
    • "Mario is Canceled" serves as a mockery of cancel culture as a whole, mocking how easily offended people are, Twitter, "clowns", and the "apology video".
    • Sonic the Hedgehog's rabid fanbase at times. "Mario VS Sonic: PRANK BATTLE" had Sonic read Sonic fanfiction to scare a group of people and "SMG4 🅴🆇🅿🅰🅽🅳🆂 His Brain" has Sonic turn into an edgy Sonic Original Character upon getting the Smash Ball, much to Isabelle's horror.
      Isabelle: A demon!
  • Adorkable:
    • SMG4, of the badass variety.
    • Mario is pretty adorable, for a sociopathic dumbass.
    • So is Bowser, Especially when hitting on Princess Peach.
    • Fishy Boopkins is shy, geeky, and very cute.
    • Meggy, particularly when she's just learning what Christmas is, or how to cook.
    • Tari fits this to a tee. She's a shy Gamer Chick that's also very friendly.
    • Even SMG3 falls under this when it comes to his reaction to his many failures.
    • Whimpu counts because he's an utter nerd, very cowardly, and is designed to be Saiko's opposite.
  • Alas, Poor Scrappy: Even people who hated Desti were actually floored to see her die at the hands of the false Sephiroth, created by Francis.
  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Is Mario really an idiotic, greedy jerk? Or is it all Obfuscating Stupidity in order to deceive his foes? Videos such as “Mario Alone” seem to be the latter.
    • Tari recognizes Francis from Mario's thought bubble in "Mario's Lemonade Stand". Is she a psychic? Considering her powers in Meta Runner, it doesn't seem out of the question.
    • In the Anime Arc, was Peach A Nazi by Any Other Name who wanted all anime, including Saiko, out of the kingdom, or was she a well-intentioned Moral Guardian doing this for the safety of the Mushroom Kingdom and its citizens after Bob destroyed her castle due to anime?
      • People view Bob as the true villain of the Anime Arc as he was the one who destroyed Peach's castle and caused her to ban anime in the first place.
      • Following Peach's Flanderization in later bloopers, is Peach just a natural bitch who's upset with everything, or is the upset over the fact that she was kicked out of the main gang in favor of Meggy, Saiko, and Tari, and uses her bitchiness to take out her jealousy?
    • In "Meggy Moves In", did Meggy move to the Mushroom Kingdom just to be closer to her friends, or did she leave because the Fantastic Racism against humans made it all but impossible for her to keep living there?
  • Anti-Climax Boss:
    • Many times, instead of facing the main antagonists of a video in a climactic battle, they get taken out rather easily or are pacified through non-violent means.
    • Waluigi at the end of his arc. Despite how much of a threat he was to everyone (being powerful enough to cause a zombie apocalypse and brainwash a Reality Warper), one punch was all it took to break his staff and release the T-pose zombies from Waluigi's control. This was followed by him permanently losing his power after a brief rap battle and making amends with Wario.
  • Arc Fatigue: The subplot of Meggy finally winning a Splatfest started with "Meggy's Bootcamp", which most fans assumed would be resolved after the anime ban was lifted in "Mario Saves Anime". Meggy's kidnapping quickly puts that on hold and the end of the arc has Meggy promise to win Spatfest, all but confirming that the Spatfest they were taking part in during "The Splatfest Incident" was over. Many wish that the subplot had been settled with Meggy winning the Splatfest in an epilogue episode of some sort, feeling that it has become drawn out. Some even started thinking Meggy's Splatfest victory had become an outright MacGuffin. It would take until "Meggy's Destiny", released nearly a year after the Anime Arc's conclusion, for this subplot to be concluded.
  • Archive Panic: SMG4's been making videos since 2011, and he's accumulated hundreds of videos with no sign of stopping anytime soon. Add to that the many additional series that aren't considered bloopers (Mail Times, Guards N Retards, and the videos on TheAwesomeMario) and there are well over a hundred hours of content to get through.
  • Ass Pull:
    • Meggy turning into a human due to the Ink Zuccer sucking out all her ink. As this directly contradicts Inkling canon, the change makes no sense and seems to only be done to make her human.
    • "A Totally Normal SMG4 Episode" revealing that the main cast's deletions in "Deleted..." actually only sent them to the Internet Graveyard, with the only explanation being that SMG3 didn't know how to properly use the YouTube Remote. As "Deleted..." and this episode made it out like the cast had been Ret-Goned until that point, with no foreshadowing toward the twist, it feels like a contrived way to allow the main cast to come back entirely unscathed. Boopkins in particular was egregious as he and his past self were both sucked into a black hole, making him getting sent there even more questionable than the rest.
  • Author's Saving Throw:
    • From 2014-2016, a common criticism from older fans was the general phasing out of Super Mario 64 in favor of Garry's Mod ("Tubbie TV" was a major example). Since then, SMG4 took steps to better balance out Super Mario 64 and Garry's Mod to the point that by 2018, he had managed to achieve a happy medium between the two games for footage.
    • During the early days of Meggy's addition to the main cast, one of the main complaints regarding her was how she seemingly had no flaws and was perfect at everything, especially compared to the rest of the cast. Since then, SMG4 has taken steps to make Meggy more relatable by giving her noticeable flaws such as her utter inability to cook, her pathological fear of anime, and most notably her impatience and Trigger Happy nature (seen most clearly in "Final Fantasy Mario" and "Mario and the Bob Mansion"), as well as showing her actually losing, such as in "The Mario Carnival" and "Super Challenge 64".
    • Quite a few concerning the shafting of older characters:
      • A common complaint from older fans in 2017-18 was that while the newer characters from Fishy Boopkins onward were unique and cool, they still took a lot of screentime away from older characters. "Mario And...The Well" and "A Day In The Life Of Everyone" are both episodes devoted to showing many of the older and shafted characters, showing that SMG4 hasn't forgotten them.
      • Another complaint that some fans had was Peach became Out of Focus and barely appeared in the bloopers following Meggy becoming the most prominent female character. "Stupid Mario 3D World" brings Peach back to prominence, even having her Lampshade her long absence.
      • Among the many characters fans felt had been shafted, Swagmaster and Chris were among the most heavily requested to be brought back from 2018-2019. "Mario's Prison Escape" and the Anime Arc merge the Guards 'N Retards series with the main SMG4 series and give Chris and Swagmaster major supporting roles from there on.
    • If you thought Waluigi got off too easy for all the destruction he caused, the next Arc Villain, Bob, wasn't so Easily Forgiven, and had to work on setting things right. This is taken to an even bigger extent with Francis and SMG3, the villains of the Anime and YouTube Arcs, respectively, who aren't given a chance at redemption like the former two and are left to die instead.
    • At the end of the first part of their two-part special, Treasure Hunt with the Bois, SMG4 and Kevin rush in to ensure fans that it's not going to be an arc, stating that they're experimenting with making two-parter shorts rather than overarching plots. Considering one of the main complaints of the The Anime Arc was how long it was, it's not hard to put two and two together.
    • "The Big Bad Bully" and "Untitled Mario Video" were uploaded in early October, when the annual War of the Fat Italians is normally released, leaving fans wondering if SMG4 and Kevin had forgotten. The latter video was flooded with comments either asking when the war would be or suggesting challenges for it. It wasn't until two days later that a WotFI announcement was posted.
    • A complaint that fans had is that modern bloopers need more villains, as most villains outside of Arc Villains either went through a Heel–Face Turn (Bowser, Saiko) or have become Out of Focus (SMG3, Enzo, the Villager, Ztar). The YouTube Arc fixes this by bringing back SMG3 and making him more bad than ever, giving classic fans the classic SMG4 vs. SMG3 rivalry.
    • For fans who felt that Saiko and Tari having major roles in the first three arcs made them Creator’s Pets are sort of glad to hear that the YouTube Arc has them Out of Focus and gives other characters more screen time.
    • In direct response to "The Fan Written Episode" being seen as an inferior Subscriber special compared to the fan collabs by some, Luke and Kevin announced a collab to celebrate the end of 2020. In their words, "we heard you loud and clear".
  • Awesome Ego: Bob, who has named TWO (fictional) holidays after himself, has blades for hands, and is one of the more popular side characters in the series.
  • Awesome Music:
    • Mario and SMG4's rap battle at the end of "War of the Fat Italians 2017". The additional lyrics by Luigi, Fishy Boopkins, E. Gadd, Meggy, and Bob are all awesome, too.
    • The climax of War Of The Fat Italians 2018 and the finale of the Waluigi arc: The whole cast brutally roasting Waluigi to a remix of Picture Perfect that’s truly fire, with everyone involved having incomparably improved rapping skills since WotFI 2017.
    • Darkest Hour is the essence of "Reason You Suck" Speech sung by Saiko of all people directed towards Bob, and it's apparently so great that In-Universe, Saiko ends up taking all of Bob's fame.
    • WOTFI 2020's Rap Battle, which starts with the two opposing casts fighting each other before they team up against SMG3. Meggy's solo in particular is a particularly shining moment courtesy of Lizzie Freeman.
  • Badass Decay: Meggy started out as a near-invincible Action Girl who could effectively win almost any fight. However, over time she gradually lost her badass traits as she underwent her Character Development, becoming more relatable and flawed at the cost of her badassery.
  • Best Known for the Fanservice: Mario's Mask Of Madness will probably always be remembered for Melony's transformation.
  • Captain Obvious Reveal: To some, the revelation in "The Mario Concert" that Bob orchestrated the events of "Mario And...The Well" and "Mario and the Bob Mansion" didn't come off as a huge surprise. Go back to those two videos and you'll find strong hints that indicate something fishynote  about Bob's kindness. In the former video, Bob showed off his SoundCloud page immediately after his rescue, and in the latter video, Bob took his home being destroyed a little too well, to say nothing of his friends not finding humor in his "joke" about exploiting it.
  • Cargo Ship:
    • Mario x spaghetti of course. He even names one "Sarah".
      • Mario x the Companion Cube from "If Mario Was In...Portal" would also qualify.
    • Fishy Boopkins x his Hatsune Miku dakimakura (among others).
    • Shy Guy x toast.
    • The Villager x Doritos.
    • Chica x pizza.
    • Meggy x instant noodles, thanks to "Meggy Moves In".
    • Rob x candy corn, as shown in "Food Wars".
      Rob (lying suggestively on a piece of candy corn): "Watch me get this video demonitized."
  • Catharsis Factor:
    • Mario and company absolutely destroying Bob for everything he’s done with an absolutely amazing song, and Bob’s subsequent loss of everything he didn’t deserve afterward. Boopkins shutting the door on him was the icing on the cake.
    • Saiko shoving Francis into one of the Ink Extractors, setting it to maximum power, and leaving him to die as the island explodes is very satisfying after everything he has done, especially after his callous murder of Desti.
    • SMG3 getting defeated by both SMG4's Gang and his own gang before being banished to The Internet Graveyard, especially after seeing his horrible treatment of his own crew.
    • Toad, of all characters, running the real Sephiroth through with a sword in "Nintendo Gets Deleted", killing him in the exact same way his Inkweaver counterpart killed Desti, had many cheering for finally delivering justice to Sephiroth.
  • Character Rerailment: While it doesn't last long, "Stupid Mario 3D World" undoes most of Peach's Flanderization and Bowser's Villain Decay.
  • Cliché Storm: Some fans have given this sentimnt about the videos since late-2018 compared to the old ones, which were more unpredictable and original.
  • Creator's Pet:
    • The trio of Meggy, Saiko and Tari in SMG4's later videos are commonly seen as this for many reasons. They have all gotten ample amounts of focus at different times, are all portrayed as more competent than the rest of the cast, rarely suffer slapstick or injuries, are most commonly attached to merchandise, and are the same tomboyish, level-headed Action Girl cliché that's been seen in practically every work of fiction in the 2010s. “Boys vs Girls” was seen as the pinnacle of this due to its infamous ending. This isn't even getting into their specific problems as characters:
      • For Meggy: Having no negative qualities at first (leading to her being called a Mary Sue by her detractors), having a notoriously rabid fanbase, the infamous shipping wars attached to her, being the most developed character at the cost of everyone else's development and screentime, and said Character Development and redesign following the Anime Arc taking away the best aspects of her character.
      • For Saiko: Being too unsympathetic of a character at first, sticking out as a original character, being animesque and Uncanny Valley in design, her wonky animation, and losing what many thought were the most interesting aspects of her character once she made a Heel–Face Turn.
      • For Tari: Losing her Butt-Monkey qualities after her debut and as a result having no negative qualities (similar to Meggy's criticism), being another original character, and her character being essentially a promotion for Meta Runner in hindsight.
    • Fishy Boopkins, mostly from 2017-2018. Frankly, there's no way you avoid this trope once the main writer (Kevin) singles you out as his favorite character, not helped by the fact that he also voices Boopkins. Also going against Boopkins is that around 2017 his trait of being an otaku was upped to rather grating levels of second-hand embarrassment and sometimes he came across as more annoying than entertaining. He escaped this to an extent once his importance to plots lessened a great deal after the Rapper Bob arc and became more of a supporting character, but it returned in 2020 once he was given a younger brother JubJub, who also qualifies as a pet.
    • Kevin seems to have a very strong affinity for Melony after her human transformation in "Mario's Mask of Madness", as shown in this Hobo Bros video where he tries to find Rule 34 of her. He ends up finding Rule 34 of Melony the Gym Leader from Pokémon Sword and Shield because they have the same name. Also, a Ship Tease occurs with Melony and one of the characters Kevin voices (Axol).
  • Crosses the Line Twice:
    • In "the Toad, the Fat and the Ugly.", Toad finding out that the Toadette he has been pining for the whole episode is 9 years old? Disturbing. Frankie, who is also a child, chiming in with "That's even better!". Hilariously disturbing. Toad getting arrested for pedophilia a few seconds later? Hilarious.
    • In "Mario and the Bob Mansion", when SMG4 asks Bob where his fire extinguishers are, Bob replies that safety is for losers. Cut to Bowser finding one and using it on his face instead of the fire, only for it to set him on fire. Bob then reveals that while he doesn't have fire extinguishers, he does have flamethrowers disguised as fire extinguishers.
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     D-I 
  • Draco in Leather Pants: Bob got this big time after the events of "The Mario Concert". Many fans sympathized with Bob since he had specifically told Boopkins not to interfere with the concert only for him to ruin it anyway in addition to many speculating that Bob must have once been as idealistic as Boopkins, but may have been betrayed and used in the past, which is why he is a cynic in the present. Keep in mind this was after he outright admitted to manipulating the events of the last few episodes for the sole purpose of skyrocketing his career, including throwing his supposed best friend down a well.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse:
    • SuperLuigiGlitchy3, SMG4's brother from the episode "sup' bro" has gained somewhat of a fanbase, appearing in fanart despite having since vanished since his debut. Helping is Weegeepie adopting the character on his own channel.
    • Minion from "Luigi's Labyrinth" is very well-liked by the fanbase due of her Adorkable nature.
    • Grand Dad from "THE BOOTLEG DIMENSION". Most of the comment section will agree that he is a surprisingly Tragic Villain in contrast to SMG4's other antagonists, who are usually comedic goofballs or evil forces of nature.
    • Beta Luigi from "AREA 64" was popular enough to get second place on a YouTube poll for favorite secondary character, beating out Bob, Shroomy and even Meggy, only losing to Fishy Boopkins, despite being added onto the list as a joke, perhaps in part due to his truly tragic Heroic Sacrifice.
    • Quite a few fans took a liking to Shroomy thanks to him being a Crazy Awesome boy scout and his unique design.
    • Chris and Swagmaster69696969696 are some of the most popular, yet at the same time rarest, characters in the SMG4 cast, and it's not uncommon to find comments requesting more videos with them.
    • Mario's descendant in "The Weegee Uprising", New Super Duper Mario Plus Ultra, became one for his surprising planning skills and, like fellow darkhorse Beta Luigi, pulling off a Heroic Sacrifice so Luigi, Boopkins, and Shroomy could Set Right What Once Went Wrong.
    • Rob from 🌽🌽🌽🌽𝓒𝓸𝓻𝓷🌽🌽🌽🌽 is also a fan favorite, mainly due to his hilarious lines.
  • Evil Is Sexy: While not the first female villain in SMG4 videos, Saiko Bichitaru before her Heel–Face Turn was different in that despite her murderous rage, she was an utterly gorgeous young woman with a sarcastic yet witty personality. Though, that's not exactly hard to do considering the competition.
  • Fandom Rivalry: With SuperMarioLogan, due to them both being web series that take very different approaches in taking the main Mario cast and expanding their world. Expect to see an argument on who's better at least once, especially after Logan's run-ins with YouTube and Nintendo.
  • Fandom VIP:
    • Viger the Magnemite is perhaps the most well-known reactor of the channel for being around since 2015 and especially for his reactions to PINGAS jokes. He has had his suggestions featured twice in "War of the Fat Italians". For context, Viger might be the ONLY SMG4 reactor that doesn't also react to SuperMarioLogan, the channel's biggest rival.
    • Weegeepie started out as a Defictionalization of the namesake channel portrayed in "MarioTube" before animating his own original gameplays with Luigi and becoming his own channel. He has since had his suggestions featured in "War Of The Fat Italians", had his animated skits featured in the fan submitted ssenmodnars, and some of his Gmod addons (Bob the Garo ENHANCED! and SMG4 Bonemergable Eyeballs pack among others) have been utilized by SMG4 for videos. He was even lucky enough to have SMG4 himself provide his voice for his entry for Bugtendo's "Who let the chomp out?" reanimated collab.
    • Alex Spider, Geofcraze634 and LizzietheRatcicle15 are all well-known GMOD animators who are fans of the channel, often contributing to the SSENMODNAR collab videos.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: While SMG4 videos are almost always seen as entertaining in some way, there are a few bad apples fans tend to ignore:
    • "Tubbie TV" got this hard at its debut for its heavy use of Garry's Mod over SM64 while still having SM64 in the title (it was later crossed out), and for having Mario be Forced to Watch the Teletubbies TV channel until he is rendered unconscious. The SMG4 wiki went as far to call it "Mario Torture Porn" and the video quickly became one of the most divisive ones ever. It has since been Vindicated by History for the most part due to videos after its debut doing mostly the same things it was criticized for back then, which have since become more accepted.
    • "Mario joins the Circus" for being weird even by SMG4 standards, Mario getting hurt a lot for what was seen as stupid reasons, and for being edited by someone else due to SMG4 being too busy making "SSENMODNAR DELUXE" at the time.
    • "Boys vs Girls" got this big time for how Unintentionally Unsympathetic the girls were, the lackluster humor, the infamous ending seemingly implying girls were better than boys, and being seen as the pinnacle of the girl trio's favoritism.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: One half of the fanbase (mostly young kids who don't take Meggy's age into account) ships Mario x Meggy thanks to their strange yet endearing friendship and Meggy being one of the few characters Mario's almost always friendly to.
  • Fanon: Thanks to plenty of memes on r/SMG4, it's been commonly accepted by many that Tari's Trademark Favorite Food is cookies.
  • Franchise Original Sin:
    • One of the biggest criticisms of Modern SMG4 is its use of current trends and memes in practically every video. This was present all the way back in the first episode, which used "the cake is a lie" meme from Portal. This was fine back then since the use of memes and trends was mostly sporadic, and the ones that were used were mostly widely loved and stood the test of time. Even the series' storytelling Growing the Beard moment in the Waluigi arc is rooted in memes from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (mainly those about Waluigi being snubbed as a playable character despite many fan requests). However, 2018 and onward had the memes and trends used in episodes become far more current, and episodes also noticeably began building the plot around the trend, making people see it more as episodes trying to capitalize on what's trending at the time of upload and making them come off as bland, unmemorable and dated, especially on rewatch.
    • The overuse of Garry's Mod in the series has its roots in one of the most-viewed and well-recieved videos on the channel, "freddy's spaghettiria", which debuted what has become SMG4 Mario's signature traingle-mouth through a gag near the end of the video. This was accepted then because Gmod's use on the main SM64 characters was entirely new at the time and revolutionized Mario machinimas. It was usually a one-time Art Shift that tended to be sporadic and for the sake of a joke. Then Gmod slowly began to overshadow SM64 as the years passed, dulling the once unique and funny expressions for many and making a select few of them come off as overused. Making this sin more egregious was that it was adressed 2 seperate times (the fan backlash to "Tubbie TV" and in 2018), only for the series to relapse and double down on it both times.
    • Despite being well-received at the time, the introductions of Boopkins and Bob in 2016 and their promotions to the main cast in 2017 ultimately became the progenitor of two big issues with SMG4 character-wise:
      • The growing prominence of OCs. Boopkins and Bob were more accepted then because they took a while to become core members of the main cast, only being promoted after fans had grown attached to them. Their personalities also fit in enough with the setting and tone of the series to make them enjoyable. Meggy likewise escaped criticism for a while for this and for having her own unique personality. However, from then on, new additions got increasingly divisive, something that arguably really started ramping up around the time of Tari's inclusion, since they were all entirely Original Characters as opposed to Boopkins, Bob and (initially) Meggy being from preexisting franchises, their personalities not fitting the setting nor comedic tone of the series as much, and for immediately being put on the main cast regardless of their reception rather than slowly being promoted up to it. The fact that they were gradually replacing the older characters was also something working against them, as Bob and Boopkins on their own were not nearly enough of a presence to replace characters.note 
      • Character overload. Despite the cast already being quite large at the time, Boopkins and Bob's promotions were well-received since their unique personalities were adding more variety to the cast, and the core cast was still small and evenly focused on enough that they all got their fair share of screentime, with even the side characters still getting enough representation. However, as the years went by, the series only continued adding more and more characters until by 2020, the main cast alone had reached nearly 20 members before the YouTube arc added even more, with some of the new members being seen as redundant (e.g. Boopkins, Axol and Whimpu all being "weeb" characters, SMG4 Belle's core traits already being filled by Tari and Saiko). It also became increasingly obvious that there were favorites among the crew, with screentime and focus more often than not going toward them, giving a lot less time for each main cast member, barring Mario, to make appearances and tending to flanderize them when, or if, they did appear. Many formerly prominent characters have since been rendered Out of Focus, Demoted to Extra or reduced to cameos, to say nothing of the supporting cast. As a result, the series now finds itself in a perpetual struggle to give most of the cast screentime, the ones that are heavily focused on despite the uneven limelight tend to be seen as spotlight stealers (and are divisive at best in part because of it), and new character introductions now tend to elicit a more negative response due to being seen as only making the problem worse.
    • Solo Mario videosnote  were once seen as among the best kind of videos, but quickly started getting divisive starting in 2020. Before, they were seen as refreshing since it gave the series time away from the bloating main cast, some of whom were seen as stealing the spotlight. Adding to this is that some of the most well-received older videos are solo Mario videos ("Freddy's spaghettiria", older "If Mario was in..." videos, etc.) However, 2020 saw these episodes come out more often, even one after the other, which made people start getting tired of them and start picking out their flaws. That the even bigger main cast was now struggling to have many of its members get screen time in episodes also played a factor in this.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • About 4 minutes into super mario 64 bloopers: account loss, SMG4 is told that he is going to die, although it turns out to be a false alarm due to being mistaken for someone else. A whopping 9 years later, SMG3 went back in time to this very video and actually killed him by erasing him from existence.
    • If Mario Was In Meta Runner, made to tie in to its Season 2 premiere, has Shroomy (as Masa) shoot a picture of Bob (as Lucks) while explaining MD-5’s plan to release Bob’s nudes on Twitter. Flash forward to “Fatal Error”, the Meta Runner Season 2 finale, where Masa is forced to shoot Lucks in the head right after deciding to spare his life and leave him to be arrested.
  • Growing the Beard:
    • In terms of editing and humor, 2014 was when SMG4's bloopers started to vastly improve with more music, sound bytes and better jokes. This came to a height with Who let the chomp out which, as mentioned under Signature Scene, caused a huge boost in popularity for the channel that helped make SMG4 one of the most popular machinimists to this day.
    • The Waluigi Arc. The arc, starting in mid-2018 with Stupid Mario Tennis Aces and ending with War Of The Fat Italians 2018, marked the beginning of an ongoing story arc with Waluigi as a surprisingly tragic and serious villain. Other highlights include Mario's Character Development, genuinely sad/heartwarming moments and a strong, stable continuity between videos. The arc became one of the most interesting and well-received directions SMG4 has taken in the channel's history and gained much praise from old and new fans alike. Even after WOTFI 2018 ended the arc on a Gainax Ending, SMG4 confirmed that the better writing would remain going forward, with story arcs becoming a mainstay for the channel.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: SMG4 itself is very popular in Japan, mainly because of the channel’s most popular video: “Who let the chomp out?” with many videos subtitled into Japanese, as well as a lot of fan art on Pixiv.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
  • Heartwarming in Hindsight: If New Super Duper Mario Plus Ultra is a descendant of Mario, that not only means Mario had children at some point after finding true love (no, not Meggy), but also that those children would as well find love and have children for 500 years. Same goes for Professor E. Gadd.
  • He Really Can Act:
  • Ho Yay:
    • In various bloopers, mostly Valentine's Day-themed ones, Mario's "date" is a male body pillow with spaghetti for a face, of course.
    • This happens much too frequently with Luigi at certain points in earlier bloopers.
    • The Wario Bros., who are related in SMG4's world, also have many... questionable moments with each other in earlier videos.
  • Hype Backlash:
    • Basically any game advertised on the channel as part of a sponsor agreement (hey, a man's gotta eat). The backlash was in full force when "Stupid Mario Tennis Aces" advertised Fortnite, which is highly popular, yet resented by many non-fans of the game (or Fortnite's genre in general). SMG4 himself has grown to dislike Fortnite, as shown in some Hobo Bros videos where he is shown getting sick of Fortnite dance memes.
    • One of the key reasons Meggy went from being an Ensemble Darkhorse to a Base-Breaking Character. After her first appearance, she got near universal praise from the fanbase over how cool she was and her good relationship with Mario. However, with time, it gradually got to the point where the comments section of every video she showed up in would only consist of her fans praising her nonstop, not to mention the perceived Ship Tease between her and Mario as well as stealing the spotlight away from older characters, leading to some feeling she was being shilled too much. As a result, her popularity slowly decreased until she became the Base-Breaking Character she is now.
  • I Am Not Shazam: "If Mario was in...Starlink: Battle for Atlas" has Fox McCloud referred to as "Starfox".
  • It's Short, So It Sucks!: In the opposite vein of the Anime arc's Slow-Paced Beginning, some feel this way about the latter half of the YouTube arc, feeling that its story was haphazardly and rapidly moved along so that it could end with the annual WOTFI.
  • It Was His Sled:
    • Waluigi is SMG4's first Arc Villain. This became well known after "Mario and the T-Pose Virus" showed him being behind the episode's Zombie Apocalypse and became universally known after he was revealed to be pulling the strings behind "War of the Fat Italians 2018".
    • Meggy’s human transformation and Desti's death are the two biggest plot twists in the Anime Arc, but are simply treated as common knowledge in the episodes following. The former for persisting from "Final Hours" forward and the latter for being the first major character death in the series that sticks and becoming a major aspect of Meggy's character.
  • Iron Woobie: Surprisingly, Mario, notably during The Waluigi Arc. Witnessing your friends fall victim to a disease, being tortured, thinking your brother died at the hands of the madman who caused said disease, and then having your best friend and brother become mindless zombies at the hand of the madman again should break a person. Yet Mario still manages to be a cheerful, if stupid, protagonist. The YouTube arc brings him back this status, most notably in Deleted and A Totally Normal SMG4 Episode; by the end of SMG3's deleting rampage, Mario is clearly very heartbroken about having seemingly lost his friends for good, even if some of it was on himself, and downright furious when SMG3 gloats about it to his face. The look on his face by the end of the former episode speaks volumes.

     J-N 
  • Jerkass Woobie:
    • Toad is a surly, selfish, lazy douchebag who hates everyone, but consider what he's gone through and continues to go through everyday, plus who he has to put up with all the while (ie, Mario, Toadette, Mario again). It really isn't hard to see why he's such a dick.
      • Meet the Toad dives further into why it sucks to be Toad. It's revealed that Toad is pretty much a slave to Princess Peach who literally uses him for everything (including a Human Shield), is apparently one of a small amount of sentient Toads in the entirety of the Mushroom Kingdom (alongside Toadsworth, Toadette, Ben, and Frankie), and that he's even tried to leave the Mushroom Kingdom several times when the everyday shenanigans get to be too much for him, only to be foiled by Mario every time, all of which put him in an existential crisis. It also explains his crazier moments as him taking sugar to numb the pain of being the Only Sane Man.
    • Grand Dad, who turns everyone in bootlegs just because he wants them to go through the same pain of being ridiculed for his appearance he went through.
    • Both Bob and Saiko. They are both two lonely people looking for someone to love and accept them. Unfortunately, said desire causes them to commit very heinous acts; Bob has hijacked a train and has left several of the main cast to die or suffer gruesome pain on numerous occasions all for the sake of being popular, while Saiko has actively tried killing people if they show attention towards anyone but her. However, while Saiko eventually gets along with the cast thanks to Luigi's help, Bob went through a lot of hardship and suffering throughout his life to build up his rap career, and when Fishy Boopkins accidentally ruins it, he snapped at him and told Boopkins about how he was only using him and that he was never his friend. Even if Bob did unforgivable things, some people felt sorry for him after he lost everything.
    • Mango from "The Tari Abnormality". Programmed with no family or friends, he's been fighting people for 56 years, but doesn't want to. He says he can only taste people's blood every meal, and has forgotten what it was like to feel. Tari sympathizes with him. Mario doesn't.
    • Desti by the end of the Anime Arc. Yes, she started out as a snobbish, cheating, bitchy rival to Meggy in "If Mario Was In Splatoon 2", and gleefully stole Meggy and her team's weapons and challenged them to a rigged duel and pretty much was an annoying, bitchy pain for the heroes, the simple facts that she respected Meggy enough to help look for her when she was kidnapped by Francis, and when she herself was kidnapped, talked out her differences with Meggy in their cell and agreeing to work together, talked Axol out of his Despair Event Horizon by explaining she competes with Meggy out of admiration for her determination and when she gets free, she immediately rejoins the heroes in fighting the Anime Cartel, and it makes it utterly heartbreaking when she is suddenly ran through in the back by a false Sephiroth on Francis' order, just as she'd pulled a Heel–Face Turn and was becoming something resembling a friend to Meggy.
  • Just Here for Godzilla: Meggy is usually the reason a good chunk of the fanbase watches SMG4's videos, even complaining if she's not in one.
  • Like You Would Really Do It:
    • After SMG3 was revealed to have a PhD in therapy and had gotten his own talk show a la Dr. Phil, many were convinced that it wouldn't last, and that SMG3, one of the show's earliest and most recurring antagonists, mind you, would slip back into his villainous ways. Sure enough, "A Day in the Life of Everyone" marks his show's cancellation, and in the "Where Are They Now?" Epilogue, he is shown brainstorming on evil plans and ways to get back at SMG4 once more.
    • Following the release of "Deleted", practically no one really believed that most of the main SMG4 Gang were gone for good given all of them are major characters that have been with the series for years, as well as Luigi and SMG4 being among the characters erased. The very next episode reveals they were only banished to the Internet Graveyard.
    • SMG3 surviving his attack from the Ugandan Knuckles was also called from the moment Luke (jokingly, but it was ambiguous then) stated that he was Eaten Alive and killed since, again, SMG3 is the most recurring antagonist in SMG4's videos. The Halloween Special and Christmas Special confirmed this.
  • Love to Hate:
  • Memetic Badass:
    • Mr. Monitor for his sheer determination, and absolute efficiency to make sure no one violates the law. Also for his Big Damn Heroes moment, saving Mario before he was crushed by a massive Yoshi and throwing said Yoshi into the sky.
    • Human Melony became this as soon as she first appeared, because of her coming to life through the Fierce Deity Mask, which grants divinity and gives access to all of the Fierce Deity’s powers to whoever wears it. As such, Melony is now a sleepy hacker watermelon demigoddess.
  • Memetic Molester: Most of the Team Fortress 2 mercenaries can come off as this due to their facial expressions and lines, but special mention goes to the BLU Spy, whose appearances are accompanied by him pelvic thrusting to a Stupid Statement Dance Mix about "surprise buttsecks".
  • Mis-blamed: An in-universe example: it's often thought that Peach was solely the one who started the Anime Arc upon the anime ban. However, technically it was Bob who caused the ban in the first place, as it was him whose anime-inspired recklessness caused Peach's castle to be destroyed and the anime ban to be enforced.
  • Moe:
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Francis kidnapping almost half of the Inkling population, Meggy included, in order to extract their ink for the sole purpose of fueling the Ink Weaver to a point where he can have an island full of waifus. Keep in mind that most of the Inklings are only in their early teens. If all that doesn't do it, his murder of Desti sure does.
    • Team Killer Ink's leader pushing Meggy down a pit so they can win instead which, not only would've cost Team Splatsquad victory of the splatfest but, due to Meggy being a human, would've pretty much KILLED her right then and there if her friends didn't save her.
    • While SMG3 had always been known as a villain, attempting to erase the SMG4 crew in The You Tube Arc is where he goes from being a comical villain to a truly serious one, and marks the point where he becomes irredeemable.
    • Ernie. If paralyzing of his own brother and usurping his kingdom is not enough, he also pretty much FLAYED the losers of his tournaments for who knows how long!
  • Most Wonderful Sound:
    • Anytime SMG4 edits Mario's voice clips to make him say something crazy (e.g. "Mario's gonna do something very illegal"), or say the names of characters specific to this series. So far, he's said the names of Meggy, Bob, Tari, Shroomy, Steve, Greg, Sans, and SMG4 himself.
    • Meggy’s voice from WOTFI 2020 onward, curtesy of Lizzie Freeman, is absolutely beautiful.
  • Narm:
    • Since SMG4 was a little kid and was still learning how to properly edit at the time, all his bloopers pre-2013 are positively LOADED with this: incredibly dated and immature jokes, lack of physical emotion in characters, tons of spelling and grammatical errors, and clumsily Photoshopped images were abound in those videos.
    • A major criticism of Desti and Greg's deaths is that they feel underwhelming and come off as a little forced for the sake of shock value and drama. That many characters have sustained countless comical and insane injuries (and in most cases survived them) and that death was largely Played for Laughs prior to the former's death yet their deaths, and death in general, has since been treated as serious, irreversible and rarely Played for Laughs anymore (displayed most prominently in "The Resurrection") only adds to this factor.
  • Narm Charm:
    • Conversely, the pre-2013 era is fondly remembered by a legion of old fans who yearn for the return of some of the characters introduced and gradually forgotten during those days.
    • The T-Pose zombies introduced in the Waluigi Arc are based off an outdated and negatively-painted meme... and are terrifying because of the inherently huge amount of Uncanny Valley in T-posers.
  • Nightmare Retardant:
    • Toad portraying Darth Vader. Made even better when he says this:
      Toad: Perfect. Time to make me a sandwich...
    • Several of the series' most tense moments are usually counterbalanced by some form of goofiness.
    • While Waluigi is clearly a threatening villain during his Arc, a bit of his intimidation factor goes down when you remember his motivation to become a villain was because he was rejected from Smash Bros., a video game.
  • No Yay:

     O-S 
  • Older Than They Think:
    • Many people assume SMG4 started the concept of Super Mario 64 Bloopers and machinima of its kind, viewing many YouTubers such as MarioMario54321 as copying his style, unaware of the fact the latter inspired him and that videos of this kind have been around since 2006.
    • As much as people love Luigi's characterization as the Cloudcuckoolander's Minder to Marionote , it's hardly an original concept. There were plenty of times in the DiC cartoons where Luigi had more common sense than Mario—especially in the live-action segments of The Super Mario Bros Super Show!.
    • After 2014, SMG4 has had a tendency of making his bloopers based on the current popular trend at the time of upload. However, this has actually been around since his first blooper back in 2011 ("The cake is a lie").
    • It's assumed that "World War Mario" was the first time SMG4 took a character's death seriously. However, the first instance in this was actually the 2013 blooper "Tale of a bob-omb", which is even labeled as a sob story.
    • Pengaz from "Super Pokemans 64: Legendary pokemon" didn't originate from that blooper. It actually originated from a ROM hack called Pokémon Clover.
  • Only the Creator Does It Right:
    • Some fans, especially those of the older videos, believe that SMG4 was at its best when Luke was the only one behind the wheel and that other people getting involved with the series (Kevin, the Glitch Productions crew, the VAs) caused it to degrade in quality and/or change too much.
    • SMG3 in particular is seen by some as being written better under Luke with his Doofenshmirtz-like evilness compared to Kevin and GP making him into more of a generic villain for the YouTube] arc.note 
  • Padding: A big criticism of the Rapper Bob Arc is that it's ultimately Filler in the grand scheme of things as there isn't much that really changes from beginning to end. As a result, many feel that it isn't worth watching.
  • Replacement Scrappy:
    • The entirety of the post-2016 main cast are often seen as this for replacing the YouTube Rangers, the older, more popular supporting cast, and even the main Mario characters like Peach, Wario and Waluigi, Toad, and to a lesser extent, Bowser.
    • Hal Monitor, while being well-received for the most part, caught some flak for replacing the well-loved SM64-styled Police.
    • While Desti just about got away with being a Base-Breaking Character, especially after her Character Development during the Anime Arc, you'll simply find no one vouching for Team Killer Ink. All of Desti's snark and arrogance for absolutely NONE of the positives, Team Killer Ink are simply phoned in and lazy; random designs, scant personality outside of "humans suck"; it's to the point they lack names. For a standard blooper it would be almost excusable, but for the Final Boss of Meggy's character arc a bunch of nobodies that Goggles and company would laugh off-stage is simply WRONG. Not helping is the fact that they're the Big Bad Ensemble of Meggy's Destiny: An SMG4 Movie and are very poor compared to the previous Arc Villains: Waluigi, Bob, Peach, SMG3 and even Francis. Their nature feels disposable, to never be seen again, and you will happily find a SWARM of Splatoon fans giving them a savage beating for what they stand for. What's more, Tertiary Bread made an entry to the 2020 collaboration where the Leader is seen getting devoured by a giant insect stating "she finally got what she deserved". Sure it was a non-canon film Mario watches, but the fact that the entry got into the collab should say something.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: For a while, Saiko Bicharu wasn't too popular. Fans generally loathed her for her eerily lifelike animation style (especially compared to Meggy's more fluid animation), her annoying and repetitive voice clips, and her personality amounting to being little more than "easy-to-anger Yandere". Then there were others who didn't like her for bringing more "anime" styled characters into the series. However, "Luigi's Lesson" managed to redeem her in the eyes of some thanks to her Character Development. In time, she became a reliable, tough, Cool Big Sis to Meggy and Tari, with accents of Mama Wolf when you hurt her friends, which is shown most prominently during the Anime Arc.
  • Ron the Death Eater: SMG4 loves this trope:
    • Mario himself goes from being a major hero to an overweight, violent, Chaotic Neutral moron who will destroy entire cities just to have sexual intercourse with literal spaghetti. The reason was stated in the 2015 QnA:
      i didn't really want a "normal" or heroic main charachter cause that would be boring. so i thought i'd just focus on the laugh factor of my videos and uhhh...i did stupid jokes using mario. and thats why he's the weirdo you know today.
    • Toad regularly flip-flops between his normal self and this; especially evident when he portrays Darth Vader in the "Mushroom wars: that space series?" trilogy.
    • The Teletubbies go from being innocent toddler-like characters to Ax-Crazy murderers.
    • In "If Mario was in Assassin's Creed Origins", Kermit the Frog planned to destroy Egypt and re-shape it in his image.
    • Francis. While he was a major boss in Super Paper Mario, in that game he was shown to be an extremely awkward and inept otaku who ended up being sympathetic because he just wanted to have friends. This version of him is the head of the Mushroom Kingdom's version of The Mafia, and later an unrepentant mass kidnapper and murderer.
  • Sacred Cow: Values Dissonance and poor editing aside, many fans of the classic era consider "0% of spaghetti" to be the "Band Geeks" of SMG4 due to SMG4 and Mario's dynamic and the basic plot being played in a silly manner. Shame the original upload was privated due to being an Old Shame to Luke and Kevin...
  • Scapegoat Creator: Kevin is usually the first to get flak when something is perceived as wrong by the fans. This is mostly due to him being a key factor in the direction the channel took after he took up writing duties in 2016.
  • Seasonal Rot: Many fans, especially older fans of the channel, feel that 2016 is when this started setting in, only amplifying after Kevin became the main writer and even further once the Glitch Productions crew got involved with the series. Major complaints consist of the same repetitive stock voice clips (especially the long, overexagerated screams) being overused, the greater prominence of Garry's Mod over Super Mario 64, Flanderization of some characters (Boopkins, Peach, SMG4, Whimpu and Axol among others, the reliance on Original Characters and lore to the point where the series barely has anything to do with the Super Mario series anymore aside from Mario and Luigi being major characters, kid-friendly, Nickelodeon-style jokes due to Values Dissonance and YouTube's increasingly strict kid-friendly policies, references to popular games, series and memes that only last a few weeks at the most and the series overall shift from comedy to dramedy.
  • Shocking Moments:
    • The ending of "The Mario Concert", which puts every action Bob took before the video in a much harsher light.
    • Desti's death at the end of "World War Mario". It comes out of nowhere and marks the first time in SMG4 history since 2013's "Tale of a bob-omb" where a death is treated with severity. Everyone can only stare in shock, even Mario.
  • Signature Scene:
    • Mario and SMG4 running from the Chain Chomp in "Who let the chomp out?" to the tune of "Who Let The Dogs Out?" , which became so iconic that it quickly led to a surge in popularity for the channel.
    • A similar thing happened during the penultimate episode of the Rapper Bob Arc "Mario and The Diss Track", where the song "Darkest Hour" (sung by Saiko, with Mario and Meggy doing the drums and guitar) became hugely popular, with the music video uploaded a few days after its debut gaining half a million views in a week.
    • Desti's death at the end of "World War Mario".
    • SMG4 being erased in front of Mario in "Deleted".
  • Signature Series Arc: The Waluigi Arc is the arc most tend to remember and is considered the Establishing Series Moment that marks the point where the series shifted from comedy to dramedy.
  • Slow-Paced Beginning: A major criticism towards The Anime Arc is that it takes awhile to get off its feet, which had the effect of drawing out the beginning of the arc to nearly 2 months. It's not until "The Splatfest Incident" that the pace finally starts evening out.
  • So Okay, It's Average: Some people think that videos, after Kevin became screenwriter, became this.
  • Special Effects Failure: Mostly Played for Laughs:
    • In older videos, when a character was being moved across the screen, residue of anything else on the screen the characters were being green-screened from got into some shots, such as black lines. SMG4 most likely forgot to mask out the aforementioned black lines in these cases.
    • In the older videos, when Bowser, Toad, or Peach were walking, they would occasionally jerk around for a split second.
    • In "The Spaghettipocalypse", a mouse cursor can be seen in some of the shots of Mario and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
    • In the final act of "Mario the Olympian", Mario hops onto a motorcycle to make a getaway... except his model phases through the bike he's driving.
    • Inkling Meggy looked great when she was animated with Henry's, but looked really jarring when moved around with Garry's Mod.
  • Squick:
    • "The Melancholy of Fishy Boopkins" gives us the Heavy Weapons Guy in drag. No wonder Meggy fainted.
    • The way Mario makes his, uh... "lemonade" in "Mario's Lemonade Stand". Tari's Jaw Drop says it all.
  • Strawman Has a Point:
    • In “The Mario Concert”, it is revealed that Bob had manipulated the events of “Mario And... The Well” and “Mario and the Bob Mansion” in order to make himself famous, and harshly berates Boopkins for ruining his concert. Bob’s jerkassery and selfishness are clearly meant to make him the villain, but the fact that Boopkins barged into his performance after repeatedly being told not to come makes it difficult to see Bob’s anger as unjustified.
    • It's no secret that Meggy is a Competition Freak when it comes to Splatfest, and she does tend to be hard on her friends while training them for it, especially in "Meggy's Bootcamp", which rightfully puts her in the wrong for going too far. All that considered, her training comes in handy when you see how great of a team they turned out to be, working together to recover the weapons that Desti stole from them. And they only get better from there.

     T-W 
  • Take That, Scrappy!:
    • For those who don't like Saiko, seeing her getting kicked into the sky by Hal Monitor in "War of The Fat Italians 2020", shouting "Begone, THOT!!" as he does so, can be satisfying.
    • The same can be said about those who are sick of Meggy overshadowing the older characters; Steve attacks Meggy with a horde of chickens in that same video.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!:
    • Some feel that the series shifting from comedy to dramedy following the Waluigi Arc falls under this. The biggest argument for this is that the series randomness and humor made videos both entertaining and fresh, and that the shift in tone made videos not as funny or interesting to watch.
    • While Guards N Retards merging with SMG4 was, and still is, well-recieved, some fans of the former have lamented that Chris and Swagmaster were the only aspects of their old series to make the jump over, leaving the rest of their cast and their setting behind.
    • Starting from "Mario's Illegal Operation", SMG4 started voicing his own Author Avatar rather than using his "meme lines", which was met with negative reception, especially from the fans who hate voice acting in the series. This would be toned back down for the most part a few episodes later only to return stronger than ever much later on.
    • Meggy's human redesign was by far the most polarizing change yet. Apart from being seen as wholly unnecessary, many felt that turning her human made her less interesting of a character. Another minor complaint was that she was no longer animated as well as she used to be because of it.
    • The decision to rebrand the SMG4 channel as "SMG4 // Glitch Productions" proved to be rather unpopular. It did little to pacify the fears from fans that SMG4 would eventually abandon the series in favor of Meta Runner. Some have even gone as far to say that SMG4 is going corporate, similar to Smosh, and speculate that he and his team wanted to fully rename to Glitch Productions, but kept SMG4 for the brand recognition. A common consensus that the fanbase has come to is that he probably should have made a different channel for Glitch Productions like he did for Hobo Bros. This was rectified in August of 2020 with the “GLITCH” channel becoming the place for all "Glitch Productions" content, with the channel's original creation date carrying the implication that the initial change was always meant to be temporary.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • Desti. She is known for pulling every dirty trick in the book to win at Splatfest against her rival Meggy, and yet when said rival gets kidnapped, Desti does everything in her power to save her. Along the way, she grows fond of Meggy's friends, who are also trying to save her, and even has some bonding moments with Meggy herself. In addition, they fight very well as a team, Desti genuinely cares about her safety, and her claims that she still hates Meggy doesn't necessarily mean she means it. All this considered, some people thought that the Anime Arc would end with the two rivals finally becoming friends, or at the very least developing a friendlier rivalry. Instead, Desti gets Killed Off for Real by Francis' false Sephiroth as SMG4's first major Character Death.
    • Jeeves. Unlike the other modern original characters, he gets marginally less screen time. His intolerance of Mario's idiocy provides the perfect foil to him, especially considering nowadays most of the modern cast is friends with Mario, Peach and Toad are Out of Focus, and SMG4 was flanderized into being "the meme guy" rather than Mario's foil. Jeeves would be the perfect modern foil to Mario and would've played a great part in the Anime Arc following "Mario's Lemonade Stand", but instead he just appeared in a non-speaking cameo at Desti's funeral and had a brief role in the 3 million sub collab. After “Super Mario Taxi” Jeeves only appears in brief cameos.
    • Anti-Shroomy seemed to be getting built up as a major recurring villain and a big player of the YouTube arc. Unfortunately, he ends up being used for barely anything and rarely appears following the arc's conclusion.
    • Part of why Axol is considered to be a Base-Breaking Character is because of this trope. He had a great design and was touted as a famous and powerful character with a unique concept that was perfectly fitting for the Anime Arc. Yet after the arc concluded, it seemed as if SMG4 and the writing team had specifically created him for that arc and had no idea what to do with him once it finished. Post-Anime Arc, he sporadically appeared and the few times he did it would be at his expense rather than him doing anything related to the plot. While other original characters cause fans to raise the criticism of "why are they given so much screentime for doing so little", Axol is probably the only original character that causes the fans to ask "why push aside the one character that actually had a unique concept?"
    • Sam and Kenji, Meggy's former Splatsquad teammates, all but vanish after their debut alongside Meggy. Meggy's Destiny only gives them a few seconds of screentime in a flashback scene at the beginning. Many pointed out that they could've been members of Team Killer Ink, wanting to prevent Meggy from winning Splatfest out of revenge for her Drill Sergeant Nasty behavior possibly driving them away and explaining their absence. It could've both made the movie more emotional and given Team Killer Ink a better motivation for being antagonistic towards the main cast, preventing them from just being inferior Desti copies.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • For the Anime Arc, some felt that having Axol as the Big Bad rather than Francis would have made for a more interesting story since he had a legitimate Freudian Excuse to hate Inklings and that having him betray the main cast could've made the confrontation more impactful. Francis was already a feared mob boss, so his reveal as the Big Bad isn't nearly as surprising. This was actually the original plan of the arc, but Luke went back on it due to feeling it would be difficult to explain everything concerning Inkweaver.
    • The idea of killing off characters for good. While shocking due to the series' love of negative continuity, a common criticism is who gets chosen to be killed off:
      • Desti had minimal screen time in the SMG4 universe — she only appeared in one episode total outside the Anime arc and it was her debut episode. Plus, she only appeared in half of the episodes of the arc. The act of building her up like she was this prominent character in the series that Mario and the gang were always extremely close to and then to kill her off solely for a Shocking Swerve felt extremely cheap to some critics. Opinions are divided on who should've been killed off instead, but most critics agree that it would have been better if it were a member of the main cast.
      • Greg's death in "Stupid Mario Arcade" was also criticized as he was a relatively minor character who also had very little screen time, serving as a Living Prop most of the time. Him being the important death on the heroes' side that sets off the Serial Escalation of the YouTube Arc was derided as weak. Pointedly, "The Resurrection" ends with his attempted revival ultimately failing and the main cast deciding not to mess around with resurrection anymore, all but stating once and for all that he, and by extension anyone else who gets Killed Off for Real, will stay dead.
    • Francis and Jeeves' gang rivalry in "Mario's Lemonade Stand" was a surprisingly interesting conflict, but it's quickly ended thanks to Meggy, and while Francis plays a bigger role in the Anime Arc later on, Jeeves is never seen until Desti's funeral.
    • Peach's role in The Anime Arc. Many fans were disappointed with how she was merely a Disc-One Final Boss. Ideas for how she should’ve had a better role ranged from a full-on Nazi allegory with Peach getting Killed Off for Real in an epic battle with Mario due to having been rendered Out of Focus by Meggy, Saiko, and Tari or a P.O.V. Sequel about what Peach was doing back in the Mushroom Kingdom while Mario & the others were headed for Anime Island that would feature Toad and Bowser, who were inexplicably absent in the arc aside from a background cameo of the latter at Desti's funeral.
    • Several fans expected Waluigi to show up in Sans's First Day In Smash Bros. and Steve VS Smash Bros. Considering that his motivation during the Waluigi Arc involved being rejected from Smash you'd think he'd appear at some point to show how he feels about it. Yet Waluigi isn't even mentioned in either video, though he is shown lamenting his lack of Smash playability in SMG4 Expands His Brain, the episode before Steve VS Smash Bros.
    • In "Meggy's Destiny", Team Killer Ink hating humans and the Inkopolis preventing humans from taking part in anything for "health reasons" is not only an Ass Pull of insane proportions just to get the plot moving, but not even necessary; in the wave of the Anime Arc, it would make more sense for Inklings to resent humans considering a large crowd of them (the Inkweaver creations, give or take some non-human creations) kidnapped and tortured thousands of them for reasons they never understood.
    • "Deleted..." ending with most of the main cast being erased had many thinking that the series entire status quo would be shaken considering how seriously the situation had been portrayed up to that point and were left excited at the potential fallout the events of the episode, and by extension the YouTube arc, could have on SMG4 in general. That it was entirely undone by the end of the very next episode felt like a waste for some, believing many potenial plotlines and changes were wasted in favor of keeping everyone in the main cast alive and preserving the status quo.
    • "War of the Simps": While the fanbase doesn't mind Nathaniel Bandy himself (he's a good friend of SMG4 and they have collaborated in the past), several fans were a little confused at the decision to make him the guy who was behind the VTubers and not an already existing character...like Axol. You would expect an episode that involved a guy who was able to create numerous anime characters that were alive and sentient to revolve around the character who made a weapon that could do so. Yet Axol doesn't appear once. Fans who also followed Bandy's channel before this episode pointed out that an episode based on Scuttlebugs or Pink Gold Peach would have been more appropriate since he isn't really known for waifu worship.
    • Meggy's police officer plotline. It seemed like her career on the force was going in a pretty sweet direction after the events of "Officer Meggy". Lizzie Freeman's "illegal" voice clips were undoubtedly borrowed from Hal Monitor, and Meggy's policeman outfit is widely accepted by the GMod and fanart community. Unfortunately, likely as a result of the police brutality controversynote , we barely see both Mr. Monitor and Meggy's police work—and when the former returned after his disappearance, his deputy partner was Melony instead. Matters were worse when we find out in "Mario vs. YouTubers" that Meggy has given up on police work entirely. The explanation given for this at Meggy's QnA doesn't exactly help—she just says "it's complicated." Whether the controversy was to blame or not, it's disappointing to see the possibility of future adventures for Officer Meggy thrown to the wayside.
  • Tough Act to Follow:
    • Story Arc-wise, The Waluigi Arc, SMG4's first true story Arc, is held in much higher regard compared to its subsequent arcs due to its better pacing, well executed heartfelt moments, Waluigi's role as the Arc Villain, and solidly integrating "War of the Fat Italians 2018" into the plot. Some feel that the subsequent story arcs aren't as well-written, with common complaints being that some plot points are poorly executed and that there is an awkward imbalance between comedy and drama.
    • Subscriber milestone-wise, 2 MILLION FAN COLLABERATION SPECIAL! and 3 MILLION SUB FAN COLLABORATION! were both considered the pinnacle of SSENMODNAR videos, with the fans getting A Day in the Limelight by the means of their own SSENMODNAR entries picked by Luke Lerdwichagul himself. The subsequent milestone video, The Fan-Written Episode, was described as the worst of all the SMG4 milestone videos by fans of the modern bloopers, with complaints being towards the lackluster humor catering mostly towards fans of "Classic SMG4" videos and the complete absence of the modern SMG4 cast aside from Fuego the Water Bottle. Classic fans enjoyed this, though, as seen in the Broken Base page.
  • True Art Is Angsty: You'd be surprised how many people enjoyed the Waluigi, Anime and YouTube Arcs, which were darker and more dramatic than SMG4's usual works.
  • Uncanny Valley:
    • Some have this opinion of Saiko, specifically her realistic facial features, the way she's animated, and how abnormally tall she is compared to the rest of the cast.
    • Meggy's human redesign also gets this in some circles, mostly with her facial features and how they're animated.
    • RTX Meggy from the end of The Quest For RTX. Her model is much more detailed than her original one (and the rest of the cast by extention), and is animated using motion capture, meaning her movements look almost human-like, but not quite. Given that the whole episode is a parody of the "RTX On" meme, this may have been intentional.
  • Unexpected Character:
    • In "MARIO'S CHALLENGE", no one knew that a new, very silly-looking character named Shroomy would be the winner of the challenge.
    • SMG3 being the therapist helping Waluigi and Wario reconcile in "War of the Fat Italians 2018" caught just about everyone off guard.
    • No one really expected Francis to be the leader of the anime cartel in "Mario's Illegal Operation".
    • Who in the world could've expected Belle Fontiere to appear in "I Can't Believe It's Not SMG4"?
    • Those who didn't catch the crossover teaser at the end of "How Meta Runner TRIGGERS You" would've never expected Nathaniel Bandy and Beeg Jon to appear in "War Of The Simps".
  • Unintentionally Sympathetic: Mario, post Face–Heel Turn in Smart Mario. Turning evil over a plate of extra spaghetti (that belonged to Luigi, no less) is ridiculous, but wanting revenge on all the times people called an idiot is not, as Mario now has the emotional maturity to be hurt by such insults. His friends claiming that Mario was better off a dumbass than what he is now, while reasonable, is still far off considering that he has done far worse pre-intelligence. It doesn't help that Luigi, Tari and Meggy are they only ones who try talking to Mario, while SMG4, Bob and many more simply want to beat him up.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
    • A rather unfortunate example with Fishy Boopkins in "The Mario Concert". Some fans genuinely believe that Boopkins deserved Bob berating him and calling him a pushover who will never succeed in this world because he ruined his concert and he acts annoying. They seem to take satisfaction in this and side with Bob, even though he outright admits to throwing him down a well just so he could use him as a pawn in his plan.
    • Meggy and Saiko in "Boys vs. Girls". The boys' final prank on the girls is meant to be seen as the boys' having gone too far. However, this came after the girls were also pulling pranks on the boys, some of which were far worse than anything the boys did, and they were arguably asking for it (Meggy even says "Do your worst"). Even Tari, the one who falls victim to the prank, seems more okay with it than they are. As a result, they come off more as hypocrites for admonishing the boys when they were no better, especially considering they force the boys to partake in a hunting game as the prey to make up for the prank. If Tari had been injured by the prank in any way (after all, it did involve a bear mauling her), their reactions might have been more understandable, but she clearly was not.
  • Unpopular Popular Character:
    • Fishy Boopkins. In-universe, not many characters like him and he has no real friends outside of the main cast. Out of universe, the fans love him and oftentimes would eagerly jump at the chance to be his friend if they could.
    • Bob qualifies too, though to a lesser extent. To clarify, Boopkins is a Nice Guy, which helps endear him to the audience, while Bob's ego makes him less likable, though no less entertaining.
  • Unnecessary Makeover:
    • How some felt about Meggy's human redesign in "Final Hours". Some say that it looks too animesque, making her look too much like Saiko and Tari. Others believe its too off-putting and Uncanny Valley due to how radically different it looks compared to the rest of the cast, as well as being a bit too jarring a shift from her original cartoonish Inkling appearance. Then there are some, mostly fans of Splatoon, who believe that it takes away from her character of being an Inkling, putting her further into Original Character territory and making her less interesting as a result.
    • Axol's redesign in "The Internet Graveyard" was at first seen as fitting for that episode considering the circumstances behind it, only for fans to sour to it once it became clear that it was permanent. The main criticisms of it are making him stay filthy long after escaping the graveyard, breaking Inkweaver (thus taking away one of the big aspects of his character that made him stand out among the main cast) and for the random scar on his right eye.
  • Viewers in Mourning: Desti's death caused the fanbase at large to mourn to the point that fanart of her and What If? scenarios where she had survived are still rampant long after her death.
  • Wangst: This is one of the biggest criticisms of Meggy after her Character Development, with many saying her constant complaining and crying in a mostly comedic series have turned them off from her character. A big example of this is her mourning of Desti, mostly due to the latter’s scarce screen time and how quickly the pair warmed up to each other after their rivalry was largely shown to be one of genuine hatred. The crew have shown that they are aware of this criticism, having multiple episodes that have acknowledged it in the form of jokes, best seen in "The Pursuit of Happiness".
  • We're Still Relevant, Dammit!:
    • SMG4 has a tendency to make bloopers based on what happens to be a popular trend at the time, usually based on either satire or fan demand. This can include video games, series and even memes.
    • Meggy, Saiko, and Tari are a trio of tomboyish, level-headed Action Girls who suffer little to no slapstick in a similar vein to characters in CGI films in the mid-late 2010s such as Wyldstyle and Jailbreak, replacing Peach as the main female character. As CellSpex pointed out in her review of Toy Story 4, this trope has been done to the ground after The Emoji Movie and "girly" characters need to return, and SMG4 replacing Peach with such characters takes it a bit further.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids?: Despite taking place in the Mario World, the series frequently has swearing, violence, drugs, and far more adult content not suitable for kids. After the Waluigi Arc, the series shift to dramedy introduced even darker subjects such as kidnapping, torture, death that isn't reversed or Played for Laughs, and borderline PTSD.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not Political?: The infamous “Boys vs. Girls” video had people thinking SMG4 had become a feminist due to the girls winning and the boys being the ones to apologize.
  • Win Back the Crowd: The Waluigi Arc managed to win back a good chunk of the older fans who considered the post-2016 era to be Seasonal Rot thanks to the arc itself showing off improved writing and actual plot, as well as having a truly threatening villain in the form of Waluigi.
  • The Woobie:
    • Luigi can be this at times, due to being the Butt-Monkey of the series, and prime victim of the wacky antics in the world around him.
    • Meggy. No matter how hard she tries or how much effort she's put in, her continued losses in the Splatfest tournaments have left her with severe self-confidence issues she keeps bottled up, driving her to lash out at her friends. Furthermore, she feels like she's losing her sense of self due to her obsession with the Splatfests, and when she reveals this in "Meggy's Bootcamp" she breaks down in tears. The latter half of the Anime Arc is even worse on her, especially after Desti is killed. Then in "There's Something Up With Meggy...", it's revealed that she's still unable to move on after Desti's death until Mario and friends help her, and even then, it takes until "Meggy's Destiny" for her to fully recover from it.
  • WTH, Casting Agency?: "If Mario Was In Meta Runner" is a Denser and Wackier retelling of the first season of Meta Runner, with all the characters represented by someone of the Glitchy Gang (except for Tari and Belle). Some of the characters chosen, though, were odd choices for representations, particularly Bob as Lucks. Of course, that's probably what makes it all the funnier, and Shroomy as Masa gets a joke In-Universe.
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