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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#109376: Jan 5th 2018 at 4:25:15 PM

Go ahead

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#109377: Jan 5th 2018 at 4:27:45 PM

Lovecraftian@ If it was temporary, I don't think it have a major impact in the long run.

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#109378: Jan 5th 2018 at 4:40:04 PM

Stormrage has been added to Blood and Gore.

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
nonamedude The Blacker Swordsman from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Blacker Swordsman
#109379: Jan 5th 2018 at 4:43:13 PM

Any comment for my updates yet?

edited 5th Jan '18 4:51:01 PM by nonamedude

The NHK Conspiracy is real
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#109380: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:01:24 PM

@Whirl RX I figured it might not, especially since she's not capable (as far as we've seen) of doing that again. I just thought it might apply to something in some way, story or classification-wise.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#109381: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:20:32 PM

Here is another sub-house ideas of mine. I would like to know if you think it's a good idea

  • Mentalism: I am thinking of Mind Control, for direct mind control, manipulation of the psyche and the such, along with those affected by mind control. Would be composed of Sosuke Aizen (Greater), Jervis Tetch, Rio Kamishiro (Intermediate), Alex Mason, Hypno, Jack Ryan, Vaas Montenegro, Yuri (Lesser), the Hypnotoad, Johan Liebert (Demigod), Principle Krupp (Quasideity)

TimeLordVictorious Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again from the Devil May Cry series Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again
#109382: Jan 5th 2018 at 5:27:07 PM

[up] Sounds solid

Standard repost of Amara and the Nestene Consciousness. I added Master Hero's suggestions to Amara, so the fourth draft for her and the second draft for the Nestene. I am now accepting more approvals, though feedback would still be welcome.

[tup]s so far (Amara): Master Hero, Clovis (Date of ascension is now 1/12/18)

Amara, The Anti-Goddess (The Darkness, Aunty Amara, the Nothingness)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/amarathedarkness.jpg

[tup]s so far (Nestene): Master Hero

The Nestene Consciousness, the Unholy Controller of Murderous Mannequins

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/angry_nestene_consciousness_rose.jpg

edited 5th Jan '18 10:28:52 PM by TimeLordVictorious

"Shout, shout, let it all out These are the things I can do without, come on I'm talking to you, come on!" -Tears For Fears
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#109383: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:33:42 PM

Rin stated that he wanted to rework the Hero Club. They are one of his profiles so i expect he will do something with it.

I also recall he also had a suggestion of Julis from Asterisk War, maybe he can give that suggestion to Master Hero (After all, he ascended Ayato)

Uni cat
rin14100 Darkness' old friend from The Guatemala City Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Darkness' old friend
#109384: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:44:37 PM

@Lovecraftian: As Faso stated, I'm in the process of reworking the Hero Club to include Sonoko, but I was planning to mention the events of the finale so hang around the restructure thread for a week or so because I'll be posting the fruits of my labour.

edited 5th Jan '18 6:51:40 PM by rin14100

In times of trouble, turn to the Devil for guidance.
r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#109385: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:48:11 PM

Just a quick start for Vectorman.

Any other deities who found themselves in a Bug War?

Vectorman, God of Digitized Sprites

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/vectorman2.jpg
  • Theme Music: Intro A (Vectorman's Jam)
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: His head
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Run-and-Gun, Hand Blast, Floating Limbs, Shapeshifter Weapon, Double Jump with Weaponized Exhaust
  • Domains: Robots, Transformation
  • Allies: Sonic the Hedgehog, Mega Man, Jenny Wakeman, WALL-E & EVE
  • Enemies: Dr. Eggman, Dr. Wily, SKYNET, Ultron, Lumine
  • Earth has been overrun with trash in the future. While its denizens head off to see if there's other planets worth colonizing, mechanical beings dubbed "orbots" are left to clean up the mess left behind on Earth. A high-level orbot known as Raster is accidentally attached to a nuclear warhead, goes mad with power, enslaves the other orbots, and becomes self-proclaimed conqueror of Earth. Vectorman, an orbot learns whats happening and it's up to him to stop this mess caused by Raster, now known as Warhead. Once that was taken care of, Vectorman found himself in conflict against an army of mutant insects and fought against their queen. Both of his adventures were presented with what appeared to be 3D models translated as sprites. Vectorman himself is also capable of transforming into whatever is deemed necessary for the task at hand.
  • Sonic the Hedgehog heard about Vectorman's exploits and took an interest in him, seeing as how the robot was able to remain himself in spite of events that could have led him to being controlled by evil. Given that Sonic has had plenty of experience in stopping an evil scientist that uses robots for world conquest numerous times, Vectorman was perfectly willing to team up with Sonic whenever the Blue Blur needs it. Vectorman also being a SEGA deity certainly helped their friendship, even if he hasn't showed up in events held by Sonic.
  • Vectorman learned about how WALL-E had a similar role in cleaning up Earth's trash in the future and got himself involved in an adventure by circumstance. He also learned how EVE is capable of handling herself and WALL-E whenever the situation is dire. As things stand between them, WALL-E and EVE have a bit of a more peaceful life with a few threats to put up with every now and then whilst Vectorman is a bit more active in stopping threats, but finds the time every now and then to clean up literal trash. This doesn't stop either from having friendly meet-ups whenever they can.

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#109386: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:53:07 PM

[up][up]Oh, I was wondering when someone would add Sonoko. I'll be sure to keep an eye on that thread then. Also, your avatar is adorable.

edited 5th Jan '18 6:58:45 PM by TheLovecraftian

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#109387: Jan 5th 2018 at 6:55:02 PM

@faso: Okay. Just one more time.

(see debate links here)

Old Ranks:

Intermediate: Tatsuya, Makoto Y. (fka Minato), Kotone, Junpei, Akihiko, Mitsuru, Fuuka, Aigis, Yu, Yosuke, Chie, Adachi, Ren (fka Akira), Ann, Yusuke, Futaba, Haru, Akechi

Lesser: Maya, Eikichi, Yukari, Shinjiro, Ken, Yukiko, Kanji, Rise, Teddie, Naoto, Labrys, Morgana, Ryuji, Makoto N.

New Ranks:

Intermediate: Tatsuya, Maya, Eikichi, All Wild Cards (Makoto Y., Kotone, Aigis, Yu, Ren, Akechi -he just never reached its full potential, that's all-), Adachi, Labrys, all the Phantom Thieves of Hearts

Lesser: The rest of S.E.E.S. and the Investigation Team.

Final answer? Or should all of them be Intermediate? Check over here for reasonings.

Feedback Mode

Noah, High Prophet of Saving Population From Disaster

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/noah_russell_crowe_in_dar_013.jpg
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: The ark he made
  • Theme Song (fan-made): Noah's Theme
  • Alignment: Lawful Neutral with risk of falling to Lawful Evil (though villified as Lawful Good)
  • Portfolio: Rescuing Two Of Every Animal In An Ark, Adaptational Badass, AntiHeroic Vegetarian, Byronic Hero, Dark Messiah, Jerk with a Heart of Gold, Misanthrope Supreme, Papa Wolf, Sanity Slippage, Well-Intentioned Extremist
  • Domain(s): Animals, Saviour, Boats
  • Heralds: His family
  • High Priest: Utnapishtim
  • Followers: Johannes von Schicksal, Ark, Dr. Totenkopf, Evan Baxter
  • Allies: Moses, protectors of nature and animal-kind
  • Enemies: all cannibals, rapists, slavers, genocidals, and general representatives of humanity at its worst, YHVH
  • Commonality Connection: (Russell Crowe) Robin Hood, Maximus, Jor-El
  • Sometime after the Great Flood cleansed his world, and after he finally shed his mortal coil, Noah found himself in an unexpected "afterlife"; the Trope Pantheons. Naturally, he was confused at first, but the Court explained why he was here, after getting him over the culture shock; he had been chosen for a narrative arc he represented; the part of the story where someone has to save a population from an impending disaster. In his case, two of every animal on Earth from the flood. In respect to his religion, he's addressed as a High Prophet.
    • Of course, there came some contention given that he was initially unwilling to let his family reproduce so that humanity can go extinct. However, it's been countered with the fact that he was still saving a population (the land animals) from the Flood; humanity just wasn't on the list before he changed his mind.
  • Noah heard of how many have seemed to "follow" his lead, like Bulma having one just in case of planetary destruction (which is more justified than it sounds given how many times it's been wrecked), the Arc-Gurren by Rossiu, how Donald Duck was somehow in the middle of one such arc, how Arceus in one alternate timeline evacuated his kind and a few humans to an Equestria, how James Bond thwarted a villain who planned to commit global genocide and repopulate the planet with his perfect people afterward, and so on.
  • Is a staunch vegetarian through and through (perhaps even a vegan), and refuses any and all forms of meat. The fact that one of his sons happens to be named after a meat product is a coincidence; ham as a food item didn't exist in his time.
  • Just like Moses, after hearing about His numerous atrocities all for the sake of being worshipped for eternity, Noah doesn't believe YHVH is his God, even when His Angels tried to sway him to His side. Eternal subjugation is just another way of saying slavery, one of many of humanity's evils.
  • Ned Flanders seed Noah as a Broken Pedestal given he's more of the fundamentalist "Biblical patriarchs are super good" side.
  • Has no real opinion on the other pagan deities in the Pantheon, given none existed in his time.

Naoya, God of Biblical Villains (Naoya Minegishi, Cain)

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  • House: Villainous Archetypes and Naming Theme
  • Intermediate God
  • Symbol: His long robe with its Matrix Raining Code design
  • Theme Song:
  • Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
  • Portfolio: Aloof Older Brother, reincarnation of Cain to Kazuya's Abel, The Chessmaster, Crazy-Prepared, Deadpan Snarker, unnerving smile, Expy of Akemi Nakajima, morally ambiguous albino, Hidden Agenda Maybe-Villain, Jerk with a Heart of Gold to his cousin, Stealth Mentor, Nay-Theist, Rage Against the Heavens, suffered The Punishment and exploited it for his own end, Fate Worse than Death, "Get Back Here!" Boss
  • Domains: Coding, Demons, Sin, Chaos, Gambits
  • High Priest: Judas Iscariot
  • Followers: The Phantom Stranger, Grendel, the Knights of the Blackened Denarius, Lucyfar, Nimrod, Haman
  • Allies: Kazuya Minegishi (his cousin)
  • Rivals: Alcor, Yamato Hotsuin
  • Enemies: YHVH and all of His Angels, especially Metatron, The Administrators, the Divine Powers, anyone who would harm Kazuya
  • Wary of: Stephen
  • Conflicting Opinion: Asura
  • His ascension was preceded by a massive influx of demons coming in from COMPs that came out of nowhere. While the nearby folks either fled or fought the demons, as soon as he heard of it, Kazuya*  was quick to arrive and quell the issue, then convince the Court of the Gods (which Naoya didn't really like) to give him a spot in the Pantheon. After looking into his history, they decided to give him two temples to represent Biblical Bad Guy, given that he's the reincarnation of said first example; Cain.
  • Has a tenuous stance towards his cousin, given that he either fled the lockdown only to return to make up for that mistake (succeed or fail), surrendered the world to either demons (with his cousin Naoya, and rally against YHVH either for himself or for humanity) or angels (with Amane, and set Naoya on the path to redemption), returned the world back to normal with Gin, or gave the demon summoning power to humanity with Atsuro. Of the timelines he doesn't approve of, there's only the ones where he fled and the ones where he surrendered to the angels.
    • That said, given how different things are in the Pantheon, with Kazuya as King of Bel around here, he's willing to let bygones be bygones as he's got a bigger priority; his vengeance against God, a.k.a. YHVH. Despite that, though, he doesn't care much for Lucifer and the GUAC.
    • Why does he hate YHVH so much? Well, given that he's a reincarnation of Cain, every time he reincarnates, he remembers everything from every single past life, including the one where he killed his brother Abel out of jealousy. Thus, he is thus unable to escape his sin. The sad thing is that Cain could break this cycle by using the time to reflect on — and repent for — his sin, but he's far too consumed by revenge to do so. This is because, God set up the Cain and Abel scenario in the first place in order to get a murderer and a martyr. Cain feels that he was unfairly manipulated into killing his brother by an unjust God, and thus refuses to atone to a God that used him in such a manner.
    • That said, he would let go of his vengeance if YHVH just left the world alone. Of course, this is impossible in the Pantheon. And there are a lot more threats that Kazuya opposes, which means
  • He's heard of other possible Cains around the Pantheon.
    • One is Vandal Savage, who may have been Cain and forgotten. Except he apparently wasn't Cain at all; he just "stole" the Mark of Cain from a man who was passed it by the original Cain.
    • Another is Commander Kane…who is apparently his world's Cain…
    • Having heard various records, Ezio was surprised that Naoya was of a Chaotic stance as his world's Cain founded the very Lawful Templar Order. Naoya isn't amused with that irony.
  • Having battled three Biblical Bad Guys over the course of her adventures, Vampirella is keeping a sharp eye on him. She also feels a little conflict as the Cain in her world was her father.
  • His Comminucation Players, also known as COMPs, are an amazing invention. Aside from the demon summoning, it comes with a "harmonizer" program which, without getting technical, allows simple humans to fight on equal terms with SMT demons, and it also protects humans without supernatural defenses against them too. Also, somehow, it uses the internet as a repository of emotions for demon summoning.

  • Makoto Yuki raised an eyebrow upon hearing him speak; Naoya sounded just like one of his Social Links, Akinari Kamiki. Naturally, Kotone also felt the same way.
    • Naoya notes his brother's co-deity partner Hibiki can sound just like him. Maybe that's why the two managed to get along pretty quickly.
    • Speaking of voices, he's noted that same thing from Izaya Orihara, Lex Luthor, and Trafalgar Law.
    • Isabeau thought she heard the voice of one of her former fellow Samurai Jonathan, and wasn't sure what to think of the Chaotic-stanced programmer as Jonathan was decidedly Lawful. She doesn't trust him, but his desire for vengeance against YHVH (as well as how he cares for Kazuya) means he can be at least trusted on that regard.
    • N doesn't like Naoya, since he exploited his brother just as his "father" Ghetsis exploited him, even if Naoya honestly believed what he did was for Kazuya's own good.
    • Katniss doesn't like Naoya either, especially when he sounds so much like her beloved Peeta Mellark.
  • Naoya had to hold back a short laugh when he realized the boisterous Kamina sounded just like him.
    • As do Kazuya Mishima, Big the Cat, Miles Edgeworth, Ryu, Omega-Xis, and Wario, though without the laugh.
    • Tsubaki feels conflicted around him since he sounds like her brother Masamune.
      • The same can be said for Madoka, especially since that's her father's voice she hears from him.
    • Red can't help but think of Professor Oak when he's around Naoya.
    • Chrom is at odds with himself whenever he finds himself face-fo-face with him, as he either sounds like his retainer Frederik or the sleazy Validar.
    • The Investigation Team (sans Naoto) get the feeling that they've heard his voice before. Then it clicked; get past the calm and slick manner of speaking, and they're reminded of their first suspect in Inaba's murder cases; Mistuo Kubo* 

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#109388: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:03:03 PM

@Lock Well i think that Null Sector would be the kind of group that would remind Vectorman of Warhead's lackeys. As for Bug War, there is Flik and Z but no idea what to make out of that.

@Lovecraftian Besides the Hero Club, are you interested in making profile for the pantheon?

Uni cat
wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#109389: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:06:35 PM

@nightelf: Put my vote on all are Intermediate.

rin14100 Darkness' old friend from The Guatemala City Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Darkness' old friend
#109390: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:07:24 PM

@nightelf: If I were to do a profile for Popplio and Spheal, you wouldn't see it for a long time since I the next Pokemon I'm gonna work on is Salazzle and I adopted Dragonite from RJ for Infinity -1 Sword a long time ago and should have already gotten started at some point but didn't.

@Lovecraftian: Thanks, I try.

edited 5th Jan '18 7:10:36 PM by rin14100

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r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#109391: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:13:14 PM

@faso: I probably should have been more specific about the Bug War thing to begin with, but I was asking about deities who had to fight giant mutant insects at one point or another.

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#109392: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:14:18 PM

@fasoman1996 I wouldn't even know how to do it. I've only recently learned how to use the forums. It only occurred to me to point this one out because she was very obviously a goddess in her own story for a little while. But it could be interesting to try and learn, even if I have no idea what would be involved in adding a character to the pantheon, or how to do it.

edited 5th Jan '18 7:19:19 PM by TheLovecraftian

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#109393: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:22:25 PM

@wootzits: Sorry, but you're voted out 3 to 2. I want to hear helpful confirmation, please.

Right now, votes are as follows. Next page, I'll act on the final verdict.

For P2 characters, Wild Cards, Adachi, Labrys, and the Phantom Thieves of Hearts being intermediate with the rest as Lesser, we have: Omega Radiance, Crownless Mimic, fasoman1996

For all of them to be Intermediate, we have: Existential_Tempest, wootzits

Those on the fence: me, Kingvideogames (their [tup] was unclear)

@rin: All right. Guess it'll be my first time.

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#109394: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:38:03 PM

Lock@Shokichi Komachi from Pantheon.Genetic Engineering is part of a team who faced Mars Cockroaches.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#109395: Jan 5th 2018 at 7:59:54 PM

@Vectorman Make him enemies with Sigma and Weil, since their actions bring war and harm to the planet.

Want to update the images for Rogue and Mystique how do these look?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mystique_5.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rogue_6.jpg

Mileena Madness
kingvideogames Every Kel Profile is Canon from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Every Kel Profile is Canon
#109396: Jan 5th 2018 at 8:04:32 PM

@nightelf, make my vote a [tup] for the specified god ranking choice (the first one)

edited 5th Jan '18 8:05:16 PM by kingvideogames

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#109397: Jan 5th 2018 at 8:10:06 PM

@ Amara: [tup]

  • Sub-house ideas
    • Costumes: Do you think Style needs to be split? If so, how? Also, I am wondering if Eyewear could be a thing
    • Royalty: I feel it might work with a fifth house. Should I split Heirs into Princes and Princesses? If not what other idea for a fifth house should I use?

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#109398: Jan 5th 2018 at 8:11:08 PM

Reposting the Point Man because i was ignored last time

The Point Man, God of Bullet Time (The New Guy, Buddy, Bad Motherfucker)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/250px-point_man_artwork_7364.png
  • Potential House: Abilities
  • Lesser God, sometimes Intermediate
  • Symbol: His old F.E.A.R. uniform
  • Alignment: True Neutral, leaning towards Chaotic Good
  • Portfolio: Tense relationship with his brother Paxton Fettel, Death Glare, Only known as the Point Man, Abused because of being weaker than his brother, Never Says a Word, Implacable Man, Lightning Bruiser, Made of Iron, One-Man Army, The Un-Favourite, Alma's first child
  • Domains: Reflexes, Guns, Soldiers, Dark Pasts, Experiments
  • Allies: Gordon Freeman, Link, Samurai Jack, James Ramirez, Master Chief, Adrian Shephard, Max Payne, Neo, The Ghostbusters, Luigi
  • Enemies: The Child Abuse Supporters
  • Acquiantanced with: Wander, The Human Child, Samantha Maxis, Erma Williams
  • Special Relationships: Alma Wade (His mother)
  • Known simply as the Point Man, this strange man was one of the newer recruits of F.E.A.R., who were tasked with the mission to hunt down Paxton Fettel after he initiated an uprising with the replica soldiers of Armachan Technological Corporation. But the point man's role was more important than that when Alma Wade got involved, who was constantly stalking him whenever he went. In truth, he turned to be Alma's first son, born for the sake of Project Origin to test his capabilities as a powerful psychic like his mother was. Needless to say, the Point Man's life wasn't all that cheerful either and the reason he doesn't remember anything is because it's been erased from his memory.
  • The reason he found the pantheon are a little hard to explain. He didn't exactly ascend but lured into the pantheon by unknown entity to him, who he mistakenly assumed to be his brother Paxton Fettel. It actually turned out to be Dark Danny, who provoked the Point Man into coming after him to see if he was as good as the rumors about him were. The actual reason for that? Alma asked him to do it, and after hearing of the news that her child has ascended he wasted no time and came to see him before anything bad happened to him. It speaks volumes of the appreciation she has for her son when Alma of all people stops a fight
  • Quickly settled down with the title of Bullet Time, given his impressive reflexes and speed which are implied to come from his Psychic Powers. He also managed to befriend Max Payne who also happens to have both super reflexes and a Dark and Troubled Past.
    • Max wasn't the only one with super reflexes though. Samurai Jack and Neo both were impressed by the Point Man's ability and a friendly spar occured between the three. They remain on good terms.
  • The Point Man never utters a words, not even in the most intense moments. Some say that because of the experimentation and abuse he underwent in the past he might have become mute as a result. That's why he ended up befriending a few people who also don't talk, those being Gordon Freeman, Link and soldiers like Adrian Shepard and James Ramirez, who sympathize with his situation of being the guy who gets things done for their team. In the case of Gordon, he heard about incident involving his mother where Gordon was transported to the almaverse and it wasn't pretty, so he feel obliged to apologize on her behalf, even if she doesn't want to.
  • F.E.A.R. as a team was specialized in dealing with the supernatural, and while the Point Man is no longer a part of it, he nevertheless is experienced enough to deal with the pantheon's paranormal events. That's why he keeps a formal relation towards the Ghostbusters and Luigi, since he has had his fair share of encounters with ghosts. Not to mention the fact that they have been trying to deal with Alma and he would be perfect addition to the team if his mother ever goes on a rampage again.
  • The topic of Alma is always a heated one considering there is a special group of people that want to help her. So when they heard that one of Alma's son was present in the Pantheon, they wasted no time in meeting him. Wander and the Human Child have told him that they made some significant progress in calming down Alma, the key player being Erma whose similarities made Alma calm down a little and be protective of her. The three have also tried to involve the Point Man into their little "Therapy Session" since they believe he would the final piece they need to finally calm Alma down. He is hesitant to say the least, his mother was never the most normal person around and he himself has his fair share of issues but he is willing to try.
    • After a few sessions with Wander, Frisk, Erma and the Point Man, Alma has shown some incredible progress, her desire for destruction toned down a lot and even shown some faint smiles when she sees her son. But she has demanded the four that in order to be at peace she needs to see a special person again, that being Paxton Fettel, her other son.

Uni cat
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#109399: Jan 5th 2018 at 8:12:39 PM

[up][up] Amara? I do agree that Style needs to get split.

Mileena Madness
kingvideogames Every Kel Profile is Canon from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Every Kel Profile is Canon
#109400: Jan 5th 2018 at 8:27:20 PM

[up][up] Maybe some other interactions with brothers or siblings that don't get along with each other or made amends with each other, going along the lines of him having a tense relationship with his own brother, Paxton Fettel? Maybe something about The Miser Brothers and their own brother rivalry that mellowed out or The Matsuno Brothers and their various misadventures?

[down][down]Well, touche. Thought he would know or Alma would at least told her when she said that he was the final key till she could be at peace.

edited 5th Jan '18 9:12:38 PM by kingvideogames

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