Trope Pantheons Discussion

Alright folks, let’s start fresh today. No need to get all caught up in fits over little things.

New page new profiles. Let’s go!

Night@ Maybe add it in the profile status?

Sure, Whirl. But then the question is, which House does the profile end up in, and where does the redirect link go? That will be the new debate, I think.

Yeah, I can see the issues in the long run. I can only think indicating one is the primary profile while the other is secondary.

I am working on Asterix, Obelix and Dogmatix profile and I would like someone to please double check the amount of flavour text I have. I think that I have 13 flavour texts.

Astérix, Obélix and Dogmatix, Gods of Indomitable Villages, (Asterix: Asterix Astronomiges, Son of Astronomix | Obelix: Obelix Obelodaliges, Son of Obeliscoidix | Dogmatix: Idéfix)

• Lesser Gods
• Symbols: Asterix's winged helmet, one of Obelix's menhirs and one of Dogmatix's bones.
• Theme: Twelve Tasks of Asterix Theme"Asterix Est La" by Plastic Bertrand
• Alignment: Neutral Good
• Portfolios: Super-Strength, Brains and Brawn
  • Asterix: Celibate Hero, Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold, Invincible Hero, Mercury's Wings, Never Really Using His Sword, Pint-Sized Powerhouse,
  • Obelix: Big Fun, Braids of Barbarism, Fat Id-- (WHO IS FAT?!) um... Dumb Muscle, With The Exceptions of Menhir Carving and Catching Wild Boars, Fast and Flexible In Spite of Big Frame, Boisterous Bruiser, Big Eater, Bruiser with a Soft Center, Kindhearted Simpleton, Does Not Know His Own Strength, Accidentally Breaking Doors With His Strength, Simple-Minded Wisdom
  • Dogmatix: Silent Snarker, The Nose Knows, Nature Lover, From Stray to Pet, Canine Companion, Butt Biter
• Domains: Strength, Liberation, Protection, Happiness, Naivete, Gluttony, Good, Cunning
• Followers: Their fellow unascended villagers, The defenders of Redwall Abbey
• Allies: Cacofonix, Unhygienix, Chief Vitalstatistix (their leader), Cleopatra VII, The Smurfs, Leonidas, Xena, Lucky Luke, Tintin, Thor, The Lost Vikings, Muradin Bronzebeard, Judah Ben-hur, Shanks,
  • Asterix: Zorro, Samurai Jack, Thor
  • Obelix: Garfield, Po, The Lost Vikings, Maud Pie, The Skarloey Railway Engines, Asura, Anna,
  • Dogmatix: Gromit, Hachiko, Odie, Bolto
• Rivals: Hercules, Popeye, Donald Duck,
  • Obelix: Shrek,
• Obelix's Friendly Rival: Luffy,
• Enemies: Marcus Junius Brutus, Vulcan, Loki Laufeyson, Messala, The Hall of Piracy, Anyone That Abuses Dogs
  • Obelix's Enemies: Looten Plunder, Ganon, Okkoto-nushi,
• Worthy Opponent: Julius Caesar,
• Odd Friendship: Caesar
• Obelix is Banned from: Mount Volbono, The Hall of Ungulates,
• Feared by: Napoleon (Animal Farm), Piglet, Hawk, Babe, Pumbaa,
• Have visited: Londinium/London,

• Bio text: While the trio of Asterix, Obelix and Dogmatix are known for having adventures together it wasn't always the case. Obelix only started joining Asterix on his adventures after Asterix had already had one. During one such adventure they came across a butcher shop in Lutetia/modern day Paris and a dog outside decided to follow them, it wasn't till they were back in the Village that the dog decided to make it's presence known to Obelix who adopted the little dog and named him Dogmatix.
  • Asterix: Is the best warrior of his village, using both his cunning and the super strength that he gets from Getafix's magic potion. In his earliest adventure he went to save the druid Getafix from the nearby Roman Camp.
  • Obelix: Obelix is the village's menhir deliver man and strongest warrior in village, due to having fallen into a cauldron of Getafix's Magic potion when he was a kid which gave him permanent super strength. He uses his super strength to help him beat up his foes and to carry menhirs on his back. He loves eating wild boars and fighting.
  • Dogmatix
• Ascension Text: After having halted constant attacks and other threats from the Romans against his unnamed village, the court of gods had decided to award Asterix with the role of God of Indomitable Villages. The Romans soldiers now fear the village more than ever now that the they have a god on their side. Obelix was sick of being the god of Big Fun since the role kept him away from his best friend Asterix. So he made an appeal to the court of gods so he could join Asterix as another God of Indomitable Villages.
• The trio's temple looks like their Village with surround with the sea on one side and a forest on the others and on the other side of the forest are four Roman camps (Aquarium, Compendium, Laudanum and Totorum). Inside the village it is an near exact copy of the trio's village, the main difference is that there are portals for each of Asterix's friends to travel to their own temples in the pantheon. Asterix and Obelix just use their own houses in the Village as their homes in the pantheon. If any deity was to visit it they would find rest of villagers living their normal days such as Fulliautomatix the village blacksmith hitting Cacofonix to stop him from singing, the various Gauls arguments and fights over Unhygienix's fish, Chief Vitalstatistix falling of his shield. The Gauls are friendly to most people with the exception of any soldiers attacking the village.
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• The first thing that the duo did after being given the same role in the pantheon was to go to Julius Caesar's temple in order to celebrate the fact that the duo was back together by battling some Roman Soldiers. Afterwards they decided to said hello to Julius Caesar while they were there. They found Caesar trying to hide his Laurel Wreath from the duo just incase were trying to take his Laurel Wreath again to flavour a stew. Caesar told them that Brutus is in the Pantheon and suggested that they destroy Brutus' temple as payback for Brutus ordering his soldiers to burn Asterix's Village to the ground with fire arrows. They agreed and thanked Caesar for using his soldiers to have the Village reconstructed.
• Ever since the duo was reunited, Asterix and Obelix decided to start one of their favorite habits: travelling around the Pantheon, more often than meeting fellow Franco-Belgian deities Tintin and Lucky Luke on the way. Both are thus honorary members of the house of Travel. Tintin told Obelix that if Dogmatix was Obelix's herald he could enter the Pantheon as well. Which led to Obelix going to the Court of Gods and asking them to let Dogmatix ascended as his herald, the court approved and Dogmatix was allowed to join his master in the Pantheon.
• Asterix and Obelix have spent some of their adventures travelling around world usually by foot or by boat. During their travels they keep coming across the same group of pirates led by Redbeard, which is followed by a battle that ends with the pirates beaten up and the pirates ship sunk. This has led the hall of pirates declaring that Asterix and Obelix are not to be let anywhere near the hall of Piracy. It also led them to go after Shanks, because Obelix heard Red-headed pirate and thought that it was the pirates that they keep coming across and decided to battle them to say hello, Asterix went after Shanks to warn him about Obelix's attack, it was too late Shanks had already defeated Obelix. Shanks said not to worry about it since it was a bit of fun and gave him an excuse to have a feast and party with his new friends.
• Asterix
  • Despite owning a sword, he hardly ever uses the weapon. Surprisingly, Asterix prefers to outwit his opponents. As such, he isn't one to cause fights unless challenged or provoked into doing so. He still trains with his sword and he has had sparring matches with Zorro, Zoro and Samurai Jack.
  • Much of his superhuman strength comes from a magic potion from the druid Getafix. Many gods of strength sought him out for feats of strength. Hercules enjoyed his company and is often challenging him in arm wrestling contests. Popeye was less than impressed, claiming spinach is a much better formula to grant super strength.
  • Asterix has caught the attention of the God of Thunder Thor as the two share main traits: particularly their blonde hair and wing helmets. Asterix did mistake him for Taranis (the Gaul's own God of Thunder) at first. Still, that didn't stop them from becoming fast friends. His sharp wit has also come in handy when confronting Loki's Trickery.
• Obelix
  • Obelix hates people deities who cut down or knock down trees because his pet Dogmatix cries whenever he sees a tree is cut down or knocked down. This has led him to attacking the Eco-Villains for their part in destroying trees and especially Looten Plunder, who is usually Obelix's main target of the group. This has led Obelix to get along with Asura who also punchs things that make his loved ones cry.
  • He is feared by all the swines members of the Pantheon especially by Napoleon (Animal Farm), Piglet, Hawk, Babe and Pumbaa - who have been warned to avoid him, lest Obelix thinks he can feed on them. It was decided to ban Obelix from the Hall of Ungulates in order to protect them from him. Obelix's love of wild boars did get him in trouble when he went after Ganon thinking that he was just a big wild boar, Ganon used his powers and skills to defeat Obelix. Before Ganon could kill him Ganon was distracted by the arrival of Link. Which led Obelix to get out of there because he had decided it wasn't worth it. Obelix decided to go after Okkoto-nushi the God of Boars instead.
  • Ever since he's visited the House of Beast to compensate for him missing Dogmatix who hadn't been granted the role of Obelix's herald at the time, Obelix has made friends with two big-eating animals deities. Po, who likes fighting and food as well with the two occasionally brawling for fun. As well as Garfield, even if the cat likes abusing dogs, fortunately Garfield is smart enough not to bully any dogs and especially not Dogmatix in Obelix present.
  • His heightened appetite made the House of Food not allow Obelix entry more than once a day in their House. He was also banned from Mount Volbono but to compensate, a wild boar rotisserie that never runs out was installed in his and Asterix's temple. Obelix did try to sneak in to the House of Food by disguising himself as chef by putting a chef's hat on, however he was recognised by the members of the House of Food and was kicked out of the House. Obelix decided to give the House of Food a menhir as a peace offering, after a talk with Obelix the House of Food decided to give him any bones that were leftover from meals so Obelix could give them to Dogmatix. Obelix thanked them and left.
  • Obelix is frequently invited to competitions on strength, rock carving and eating. However, he is banned from the Olympics organized from the House of Sports because the magic potion makes him a permanent case of doping. During one such eating competition he came across a rival with an appetite to rival his own Straw Hat Luffy, the competition ended in a win for Luffy. Obelix wasn't impressed by all the boiled meat he was served because he prefers roast meat. Luffy has decided to introduce Obelix to Sanji who has made dishes that Obelix has never had, such as roast turkey sandwiches since turkeys hadn't reached France yet because the Asterix comics take place around 50 BC/BCE.
  • When Obelix isn't travelling or hunting boars for food, he is usually found either in his quarry carving menhirs or out delivering menhirs to people. He has the Skarloey Railway Engines delivering rocks he finds in his quarry that are no good for turning into menhirs. Anna gets the valuable rocks that have gems in, in return Anna provides Obelix with picks that he uses to carve the menhirs and big bones for Dogmatix. Maud Pie sometimes visits Obelix's quarry to see if there are any rocks that would interest her, if there are Obelix has the Skarloey Railway Engines take any rocks that she wants to her temple, in return Maud Pie and Obelix discuss methods of carving rock and Obelix has someone with rock carving skills that can give him a bit of friendly competition.
  • "These tropers are crazy!"
• Dogmatix
  • Dogmatix is usually found by Obelix's side, however he has since made a new friend in a fellow Silent Snarker dog called Gromit. Who knows what it is like to have a master that is foolish. Other dogs that Dogmatix has made friends with are Hachiko, Balto and Odie. Odie reminds Dogmatix of his master Obelix.

Edited by neoamon on Feb 28th 2024 at 5:13:21 PM

There's an error in the name and title text, as it lacks a ' to the left of it to make it bold.

Edited by Shinobi on Feb 28th 2024 at 10:07:53 AM

That was more a copy and paste problem.

That is something that will add later. I uploaded it to get someone to please check the number of flavour text to confirm my count.

Edited by neoamon on Feb 28th 2024 at 6:40:46 PM

Dogmatix doesn't have a bio.

First draft. Who else would the Look-See regard as targets in need of relief, and would he have to take a piece? Should I alter certain interactions?

I'm curious if anyone has their own idea from Crypt TV

The Look-See, Deity Of Eyeless Faces (It, The Grief Monster)

• Hall: Body Absence (House of Personal Appearance)
• Intermediate God
• Symbol: The pocket watches it gives to its workers
• Theme Song: Its OST
• Alignment: Lawful Neutral from its own perspective, Lawful Evil from a human perspective
• Portfolio: Humanoid Abomination with an Eyeless Face, Takes After The Slenderman, A Divine Creatures Of Darkness, Silent Antagonist, Super-Persistent Predator, Morality Based Around Grief And Will Maim Or Kill To Ensure People Overcome It, Ironic Name, Absurdly Sharp Claws, Pocket Watches For Those That Do Its Bidding, Appears As That Someone They Refuse To Let Go, Anti-Villain, Badass in a Nice Suit
• Domains: Grief, Release, Monsters, Intimidation, Manipulation
• Fixated on: The House of Despondency
• Allies: The Wolf (Puss in Boots), John Kramer/the Jigsaw Killer
• On good terms with: The Slender Man
• On speaking terms with: Reimi Sugimoto (one-sided on its end), Edith Brennan, Osiris, Anubis, Charon, Hades
• Unknown Rival towards: Death (Final Destination)
• Enemies: Those who interfere like The SCP Foundation and The Global Occult Coalition, Junko Enoshima
  • Targets: Peter Pettigrew/Wormtail, SCP-106, Bruce Wayne/Batman, the Apostles (except for Griffith and The Godhand)
• Opposes: John Doe, Griffith and the Godhand, Hisako, Sadako Yamamura
• Opposed by: The Joker, The Final Destination Protagonists, The Phantom Thieves of Heart, Reimi Sugimoto
• Respects: Death of the Endless (albeit semi-begrudgingly), anyone who has managed to move on from their guilt and/or grief on their own (aka Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, Ice King/Simon Petrikov), anyone who managed to Face Death with Dignity
• Disrespects: Those incapable of guilt or grief (especially Tom Riddle/Voldemort and Dark Danny), Envy the Jealous
• Wary of: Despair of the Endless
• Uncertain opinion on: Iroque, the Phantom Thieves, the Fazbear Animatronics
• The Look-See is a mysterious humanoid figure with a nasty smile and no eyes, but is no less capable of sight. One of at least four "divine creatures of darkness", the Look-See leaves behind ominous notes for its victims warning them to "release" before it comes to take a piece. It wants its victims to let go of grief, whether it be guilt for prior actions, grief over losing someone or regret for past failings. And by take a piece, it means that if one cannot overcome that loss it will kill them in a thematic way. It won't bother someone who feels no regret, though that causes its smile to drop. Those who do its bidding carry a pocket watch, and it does not appreciate people, especially its own "workers", interfering with its prey.
• The Look-See's existence in the Trope Pantheon was confirmed with it stalking the House of Despondency and watching the deities there with what would be a Kubrick Stare, if it had eyes to stare. Most members of the House got a note; "if you cannot release, then it will come to take a piece". Before it could act on its desires, stronger deities working for the Court of the Gods' interest manhandled the Grief Monster for being unrecognized. It would get the trope of Eyeless Face as it only has necrotic grooves where eyes or even eye sockets should be. However, it is perfectly capable of seeing like it had eyes due to its supernatural nature. It's unknown if this means it would get petrified by Medusa (and doesn't intend to try) but with eye contact being specific Kaa cannot hypnotize it and it cannot be affected by a Geass. Given what it is, even if it had eyes it could be naturally immune. Nor does it care, as it is singularly focused on its goal; help people find release and catharsis, or kill them if that fails since it believes they are better off dead.
• The ascension of the Look-See wasn't documented at first because it was mistaken for the Slender Man, which was an understandable mistake as the two are similar; neatly dressed humanoid abominations with Blue-and-Orange Morality and have proxies. The Look-See's motives are more clear, however, and though its punishments fall under Disproportionate Retribution by human standards the Grief Monster is clearly trying to help. The two aren't allies as their goals don't match up, but they are generally cordial to one another as they recognize each other as kindred spirits. Just as long as their intended victim pools don't overlap they seem to tolerate each other. Both entities are frustrated by the SCP Foundation's attempt to contain and understand them, as the Look-See considers its goal sacrosanct and that they are getting in the way of his unorthodox "therapy". Though for it, at least they aren't like the GOC and think it should be terminated for being anomalous and not all that friendly.
• The Look-See's actions are, from a certain point of view making people appreciate their life. Think the Wolf/Death, or John Kramer/Jigsaw; the Wolf punishes those who are hubristic and don't value their life by laughing in the face of death, and the Jigsaw Killer uses near-death scenarios for people realize how valuable being alive is. Their goals are complementary to the Look-See and it respects both of them, with the former being more of a reverence since it may be powerful but Death is, well, Death straight up. It isn't a Psychopomp but it does recognize those involved with the afterlife and underworld, and believes that they may give greater meaning to its job by either having those it "helps" more at ease or those it gives a supposed Mercy Kill a chance to overcome their grief in the afterlife. However, it is a little bit perplexed by Death of the Endless' more blasé and perhaps too compassionate yet equal treatment of those who pass. As she will eventually claim her there's some nervousness. But it thinks her attitude is a good one.
• Its views on the Death from Final Destination aren't as respectful. Yes, the Look-See agrees that there is a natural order and Death's machinations are an efficient way to get its point across. However, those visions disrupt the Grief Monster's own machinations. The Death from Final Destination has no interest in whether its targets have gone through some emotional catharsis or nothing, just that it isn't cheated, and knows the Look-See can only seethe at it. Those that Death has targeted aren't fans of the Look-See because of the similar styles. It is not a fan of John Doe, but that's more down to annoyance. John Doe seems to appreciate the Look-See in a way, seeing it as a similar killer by going after people who fail their standards. It dislikes the killer for the comparisons; John Doe acts out of wrath for those he feels fail morally, and the Grief Monster acts out of a twisted sense of compassion for those it feels need help.
• Will sometimes take form to get the point across. The original holder of the Shapeshifter Guilt Trip, Envy the Jealous, thinks this was a hilarious trick. It doesn't think so, as it doesn't do this trick out of spite and sadism like Envy does, and regards them as immature if irrelevant to its own interests. Pennywise thought this was an interesting trick, wondering if the Look-See is a predator like itself that just has a different diet. The Look-See decided not to say anything, and doesn't care about IT unless it tries to interfere. Additional abilities include illusion manipulation, teleportation, telepathy and telekinesis. It cannot force someone to overcome their grief or guilt, however. This has led to a complex opinion on the Phantom Thieves of Heart and Iroque; their Heel–Face Brainwashing means that they inevitably force people to feel guilt and remorse in hopes of improving society, however there's an argument this basically replaces their personality with a new one (at least with the major Targets) and it doesn't know what to think about that. The leader of the Indigo Tribe is mostly ambivalent, and the Phantom Thieves disagree heavily with the Look-See's methods due to how murder is often involved and he treats good and evil people dealing with regret with the same lens.
• There are a variety of deities who the Look-See believes needs to release, or it will come to take a piece. Few would consider it a valid means of helping people overcome grief/guilt/remorse, and the Death Is Cheap nature of the Trope Pantheon has made its "therapy" worse. If it "takes a piece" and the victim comes back, a second, more ominous note will be given; "until you find release, I will continue to take a piece". Here's a list of some deities who've been targeted.
  • The first target was Bruce Wayne, aka Batman. While how well he deals with trauma is up for debate, it's undeniable that grief is a defining factor so the Look-See wants him to overcome the loss of his parents. Unfortunately for Batman, he was unable to find a definitive weakness to exploit and make a contingency for. Fortunately (?) the Look-See went in for the kill when in the sight of the Joker. His Joker Venom merely acted as an irritant for the monster, and the Look-See grabbed the Joker by the neck...and couldn't find any sense of remorse, causing it to stop long enough for Batman to get away. The Joker has put focus on preventing the Look-See from "taking a piece" as he refuses to allow anyone else eliminate his Arch-Enemy. And the idea he saved the Bat from it is hilarious to him.
  • Peter Pettigrew was a far easier target for the Look-See. As much of a cowardly Slimeball as Wormtail is, deep down he regrets his betrayal as it ruined his life. The sliver of regret caused the magic hand Voldemort gave him to twitch, only for the Look-See to hold it down and tore it off. Even this wasn't enough for Peter to let go, who was later found without a jaw and a the message "until you find release, I will continue to take a piece".
  • Some were far more difficult to go after. Amazing everyone, SCP-106 of all beings got a note. Yes, the Old Man is a monster, but there's actually some hints he's lonely deep down and may not like being what he is. According to two of at least three backstories he is one of a prehistoric predator of early humans and fears he's the Last of His Kind, or a scientist who mentally broke being alone in a void and physically decayed into the rotting old man he is now. The Look-See can sense deep down there is that pain and it considers helping it "let go" to be its greatest challenge, however the Old Man always escapes its grasps due to being at least as strong and being able to escape in his Pocket Dimension, leaving even the Look-See with chemical burns.
  • The Apostles are beings that the Look-See will always try to antagonize as it is aware that, despite supposedly rejecting their humanity, they are still afflicted with human feelings and their new form has done nothing to fix the underlying personal issues that made them make a Deal with the Devil. However it cannot simply "take a piece" because almost all Apostles have a Healing Factor. Of course, considering the fate of all Apostles is to be Dragged Off to Hell when they die, even if the other Apostles cared that release would be considered an unacceptable fate. That said, the Abyss isn't exactly Hell and the Look-See doesn't know or care for their concerns. The Godhand aren't necessarily included as evidence goes to them having genuinely rid themselves of their humanity, but it still doesn't like them as it sees them as exploitative and getting in the way of its job. Not that they care since they're well above it in power.
• Those that overcome their grief, their guilt or other forms of regret ultimately have the Look-See's respect. In addition, anyone who managed to Face Death with Dignity deserves respect. That said, it's unknown whether someone that accepts the Look-See trying to kill them would count as overcoming the despondency enough for it to let them go or would merely make their death less unpleasant. Two notable cases of these are Anakin Skywalker and Simon Petrikov. The latter has been dealing with the trauma of his new situation and managed to grow from it, avoiding metaphorically killing himself by becoming Ice King again. Anakin in the afterlife has managed to accept the good and bad of his life, having been supportive towards his apprentice. It fixates heavily on the House of Despondency in hopes of more and more achieving this release. This won't stop it from scheming to enact its plans.
• The Look-See is not a being that cares about good or evil, but about grief and overcoming it. A good example is when three men murdered a banker; two of the men feel guilty over their actions, and are killed by the Look-See. However, the third man - the one who actually stabbed the banker - has no remorse or regret, and is thus spared by the Look-See. Those with no capacity for guilt and grief are immune to it, however it finds such beings disappointing and cause its smile to drop. Voldemort and Dark Danny are good examples of this. It's unknown if the former's Avada Kedava would even work on it, but the Look-See is vexed that he has mutilated his own soul for immortality, noting he has the shot to save himself from a Fate Worse than Death by feeling remorse to heal his soul. However he physically can't feel remorse, much less one that would probably kill him. The Look-See isn't impressed by Dark Danny "cheating" the grieving process by having his humanity removed and killing said humanity at the nearest opportunity.
• Isn't fond of ghosts on principle. Some it is ambivalent to, however the idea of how most ghosts come about, that being those with unfinished business, means that they are beings who could not "release" while they were alive and are now stuck in the mortal plane. The vengeful Hisako and Sadako are beings that the Look-See pities, in as much as it can feel pity, and gets frustrated by. However there are a couple of ghosts it is relatively cool with; Edith Brennan as by the time she emerged in the Trope Pantheon she had been put to rest, and Reimi Sugimoto who found rest when her killer and one of Morioh's most notorious serial killers found his end. The latter is not a fan of the Look-See for its brutal actions, believing it goes way too far in trying to help people, though it's definitely not as bad as Yoshikage Kira. As he has never experienced grief or guilt, he doesn't have anything to fear from the Look-See. It's worth noting that the Look-See, like Reimi, can see Stands due to being a supernatural entity.
  • Speaking of ghosts, it has a complicated opinion on the Fazbear animatronics. It considered their lingering around to be regretful, and unhealthy. However they ultimately managed to get over their trauma by themselves by putting William in the Springtrap animatronic and later having a "happiest day" party. This has made the Look-See re-evaluate the idea of ghosts to a degree, though admits they are a special case since their trauma obviously couldn't be present while they were still alive. The Marionette is curious about the Look-See but for now their interests don't align.
• If there is one being the Look-See fears, it is Despair of the Endless. Despair is the antithesis of its goals, and she is despair and thus absolutely beyond its power. She also represents positive aspects of despondency like memory, and she feels things like compassion and love. There's an argument that the grief people hold unto can help them hold onto and remember the good times too, but this is an idea that the Look-See cannot accept. And if there is one being the Look-See hates, it is Junko Enoshima. As the pantheon's premiere Hope Crusher who believes in despair being all-encompassing, she is absolutely antithetical to its goals. Though it normally ignores those without a capacity for grief, not believing her emotional masochism counts like she thinks it does, it makes a special exception for her. And it intends to make this quick to deprive any aforementioned machoism.
  "If you yourself cannot release, then it will come to take a piece."

Robot Clown has turned into a disambiguation, and it's held by Circus Baby. The profile's weak enough that it can just be cut.

I think that Chief Vitalstatistix God of being to Too Important to Walk needs a rework.

He spends most of his time being carried on a shield by his shieldbears because he is the chief of the village. As the chief he is meant to be carried everywhere.

Edited by neoamon on Feb 28th 2024 at 11:24:01 AM

Ok, I need more ideas

Urshifu and Kubfu, Legendary Pokemon of Unblockable Attacks (Wushu Pokemon)

^Kubfu 

^{Gigantimax Forms} 

• Intermediate Gods, Borderline Greater Gods in Gigantimax. Kubfu is a Demigod.

• Symbol: The Scroll of Dakrness and the Scroll of Waters

• Alignment: Lawful Good

• Profile: Badass Bears, Bare-Fisted Monk. Badasses Wear Bandanas, Signature Attacks always crit, Unseen Fist bypasses protecting moves, Worse Stats than other Legendaries but great moves, NOT a Single Specimen Species, gains power through training, Relentless Attacker, Disliked for being too strong in competitive play, Single Strike and Rapid Strike, loves Max Honey, Starts timid and is actually still timid underneath
  • Urshifu Single Strike: Combat Pragmatist, Dark Is Not Evil, Wants to win in a single strike
  • Urshifu Rapid Strike: Rapid-Fire Fisticuffs, Gigantimax can defeat evil foes with a stare

• Allies: Nebby, Chuck Norris, Joseph Joestar, William Zepelli, Joseph Joestar, Ceasar Zepelli, Ranma Satome, Jackie Chan
  • Single Strike: Genos
  • Rapid Strike: Ip Man
  • Kubfu: The Hundred-Acre Wood Gang, The Furious Five
  • Parters: Saitama (Single Strike), Bruce Lee(Rapid Strike), Po (Kubfu)

• Rivals: The Regi Trio

• Enemies: Odio (Specifically Ou Di Wan Lee and Odie O'Bright)

• Urshifu is a Legendary Pokemon Hailing from the Galar Region, specifically the Isle of Armor. Unlike most legendary Pokemon, Urshifu is a specifies: they begin their lives as Kubfu, who then train under Pokemon Trainers before they adopt the Single Strike or Rapid Strike style. However, both styles of Urshifu have the ability Unseen Fist, which allows all of their contact moves to bypass defensive measures such as protect with no damage penalty. Due to this ability matching the trope Unblockable Attack, the Court of Gods decided to allow two Urshifu, one of each style, as well as a Kubfu to ascend as the representatives of the species. Rumor is that they are actually a family, but this has never been explicitly confirmed.
• In the world of Pokemon, the move Protect is learned by nearly all Pokemon, and is essential for allowing creative strategies and entertaining games in competitive battling. However, Urshifu's Unseen Fist ability allows them to attack through Protect and similar moves (Spiky Shield, Baneful Bunker, etc.) with attacks that make contact. Even Detect, which dodges moves, is not safe. Coincidentally, their signature abilities (Wicked Blow, Surging Strikes) are contact moves with perfect accuracy; additionally, they are also guaranteed critical hits, which allows them to ignore any decrease in Urshifu's attack or increases in the target's defenses. This makes Urshifu a nigh-unstoppable attacker, and many trainers have complained about the Pokemon's effects on the battling meta. In the Pantheon, their ability to ignore most defensive abilities has also made them a dreaded opponent, as instead of blocking or dodging blows a fighter must face Urshifu head-on. Here a list of some abilities that Unseen Fist and Wicked Blow/Surging Strikes circumvents:
  • ^Shields  Lord Camelot, Steven's Shield, Ultimate Shield, Tetrakarn, Invisible Woman's Forcefields
  • ^{Abilities that increase Defence}  Rakukaja, Potion of the Turtle Master
  • Urshifu's ability can only penetrate barriers, not destroy them. Therefore, if the barrier is too large, the Pokemon's strike will be out of range and not connect. And no, if will not use this ability to steal items from behind force fields.

• Unlike other Legendary Pokemon, Urshifu works very closely with humans, as Kubfu requires the guidance of a human trainer to achieve its full potential. As the Pantheon is full of Strong Martial artists, the Urshifu have befriended many of the good-aligned martial artists in the Pantheon; on the other hand, because they believe that martial arts should be a force for good, they adamantly oppose evil martial artists like Ou Di Wan Lee.
  • Urshifu Strike believes in ending fights as quickly as possible, and fosuces one One-Hit Ko's with its special move Wicked Blow. One day while walking around the Pantheon, Urshifu witnessed a monster attack by a Gohma Striker. The pokemon was just about to run into the fray and penetrate its shell, but he was beat to ``punch`` by Saitama, a bald superhero who nearly vaporized the beast in a single strike. In awe of this power and heroism, Urshifu followed Saitama around night and day until the caped Baldy accepted it as a student and partner pokemon. Through this connection, Urshifu has gotten to know other heroes beyond the martial arts sphere, such as its fellow student Genos. The pokemon also respects Li Shuwen, whose unique technique allows him to kill opponents in a single strike, although it's not sure about the "kill" part.
  • Urshifu Rapid Strike strives to emulate a river, with nonstop strikes and flexible pressure. During a martial arts tournament in the Pantheon, this pokemon had the good fortune of being matched against the one and only Bruce Lee, founder of Jeet Kune Do, a style with one of its most important precepts being "Be Like Water". When Urshifu tried to use its signature Surging Strikes, the master expertly parried and countered the first strike, circumventing Unseen Fist. After the tournament ended, the Wushu asked Mr. Lee to be its trainer and teacher, to which he agreed. Through Bruce, Urshifu also got to befriend Ip Man and Chuck Norris, his teacher and greatest rival. Chuck is impressed by both Urshifu but thinks that the Single Strike style is more his speed.
  • Unlike Urshifu, Kubfu is just a trainee, so it often studies different martial arts texts in hopes of developing its skills. When one of the Kubfu found about a golden scroll that contained the secret to "limitless power", it decided to visit the last deity to hold the scroll, Po, to investigate. Po explained that the scroll didn't actually have anything on it, and instead offered to help train the little bear. Now that Po is the Kubfu's trainer, thew two spend much of their days eating and training.

• Apparently, these Pokemon's power comes from a special organ that gives it "Fighting Energy", which it can then release with special breathing techniques. This attracted the attention of Hamon users, who use special breathing techniques to manipulate life energy. Both Urshifu recognize the likes of Joeseph Joestar and Ceasar Zepelli as righteous fighters, although it took a while for the Hamon users to explain the concept of vampires to the Pokemon. The Pokemon are considering training in Hamon in order to broaden their abilities and for the art's health effects. Competitive battlers dread the day an Urshifu somehow also becomes a fast healer.

• Despite being powerful Legendary Pokemon, Urshifu are not treated with as much importance compared to other legendaries due to being an entire species as well as not being responsible for any natural forces. Despite this, Urshifu have managed to hold their own against other Legendary due to their fighting skill. Notably, the researcher Quillon's Single Strike Urshifu was able to handle beat Regice and Registeel. The legendary titans, including Regigigas, are itching for a rematch.
  • However, Urshifu achieve their true potential by using Dynamax, an anomaly unique to the Galar region where a pokemon grows to ginormous sizes. Both styles of Urshifu are able to Gigantimax, a special form of Dynamax that also changes the Pokemon's appearance and allows Urshifu to hit through even max Guard. There are reports that a Gigantimax Urshifu rapid strike can destroy evildoers with just a look, but it is never been confirmed. Evil deities don't be the first ones to test the theory though, so they do not attend tournaments where Pokemon shows up.

• Urshifu universally love honey, especially the Max Honey produced by Dynamax Vespiquen. And they love it for good reason, as the honey helps them unlock their Gigantimax ability. Kubfu was hanging out in the House of Popularity when it caught a whiff of some delicious honey. Kubfu traces the smell back to the home of Winney the Pooh, who was storing an incredible amount of "hunny" in jars. Luckily, Winney was willing to share some, and the two became friends. In return for sharing some honey, Kubfu performs acrobatic tricks for Pooh Bear and Friends.

@RJ, the Look-See is essentially a Silent Hill monster so maybe have Heather Mason interact with it over her grief of seeing her father die. And you can also add Infinity Train characters like Tulip Olsen, who managed to let go of her feelings in regards to her parents' divorce as well. (Will feel sorry the moment Amelia Hughes gets in though)

Anyway, a while back I wanted to get Ron Killings (aka R-Truth) into the Pantheon for Actually Pretty Funny for the Hall of Comedy but was denied. Instead I found a better one: Recognition Failure. It's a running gag that he confuses wrestlers for another one: for example he confuses the tag team of #DIY (Johnny Gargano and Tommasino Ciampo) as Shawn Michaels and Triple H (to be fair on the later both are bald), and confused Shawn Michaels as Gargano. Another time he confused Kevin Owens for The Miz. No one has bothered to correct him and either roll with it or just tell him to leave. Would be cool to see what type of shenanigans he gets if he becomes friends with the likes of Taokaka and her propensity of nicknames.

Now that Po is the Kubfu's trainer, thew two spend much of their days eating and training. Thew should be they. What would they think of the Blood Knight in the pantheon?

Edited by neoamon on Feb 28th 2024 at 12:30:04 PM

Hello. I had a draft for Creepy High-Pitched Voice that I never finished. I'll get back to it someday (hopefully soon), but I also have two new suggestions I wanted to pitch:

Jollo is a friendly and benevolent court jester who assists the heroic Prince Alexander in defeating Jollo's evil master, Abdul Alhazred. Jollo's Leitmotif is a gentle, upbeat waltz tune played on a flute and music box. This is fitting because he actually used to work at a circus before becoming a court jester.

The Black Hog is a living nightmare in a man's Mental World, representing the fear of darkness. He takes the form of a giant, eldritch warthog. He attempts to trample the heroes or hit them with painful clouds of darkness, and also threatens to eat them.

@ Urshifu: When it comes to Pokemon profiles you need to add the following in the profile, between "alignment" and "portfoilo". Also, it's kind of ironic that one of them is Dark type yet no less heroic

• Ability
• Gender
• Moveset

• I have some ideas for tropes but I want to know what direction I should take. So I'm looking for advice
  • Alternate Personality Punishment: Is this trope best suited for the punished, or the punisher? Or both?
  • Point of Divergence: Would this trope work for the force that caused the divergence, a character most affected by the divergence, or a setting trope for said divergence?
  • Outdated by Canon: Which do you think best demonstrates this trope; a canon character who had a popular fan portrayal outdated by canon, or a popular fanwork that became outdated by canon since this is a fanfic trope

For Alternate Personality Punishment, I think it should be given to the character with multiple personalities.

@wootzits

I have no issue with removing Circus Baby's profile.

Done.

Personally I feel Sinister Swine is a better trope for Napoleon^note aka George Orwell's drawing Stalin as the soyjak who could have his current one changed to it, but that's just me

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Feb 29th 2024 at 5:18:28 AM

Seconded. If you ever want to work together for that (possibly sharing a profile with Squealer), I'd be down for it.

Edited by Shinobi on Feb 28th 2024 at 9:42:34 AM

@Urshifu: I might've said this before, but Rachel of the Animorphs turns into a bear during battle. Also, the Folktails keep bees to pollinate their crops, so Kubfu might be interested in their honey.

Hmm, rather random tought, but could the Equestria Girls get their trope changed to High School AU? They're quite literaly an alternate universe version of the main cast of Friendship of Magic, living in an universe where everyone is reinterpreted as an high school student or faculty. They're probably the most well-known official example of this trope, and I think they'd do better at representing it than the more general High School Rocks.

I agree that the Equestria Girls fit High School AU better than High School Rocks, since that's the premise of the spinoff series and especially since there likely aren't many other viable official candidates around. for a trope change.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Feb 29th 2024 at 1:12:37 AM

Alright, changed the girls' title and since it's an adaptation trope as well as a school one, that got them to be in another House.

Moving onto the next page...