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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#145151: Sep 11th 2019 at 6:51:13 AM

This is nightelf37, and welcome back to Trope Pantheons Discussion.

To start off, here's a repost, not of a profile, but something else.

From what I've saw while browsing, Shining Goodness doesn't have a representative. My opinion: either someone/a group in the Shining Series (like the first Shining Force) can get it or a new representative of Names to Trust Immediately can be found so that its current rep (Shining Armor) can have Shining Goodness.

That said, I also saw a vacant trope: With My Dying Breath, I Summon You. Who can fit it? I might select Darksol from the Shining Force as he's the Trope Namer. You think the titular Shining Force would fit for Shining Goodness?

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Patrickthekid Since: Sep, 2015
#145152: Sep 11th 2019 at 6:56:23 AM

These two ascend later today with 4 [tup]s.

Terry Pratchett, God of Narrative Causality and Footnotes (Pterry, Professor Sir Terence David John Pratchett OBE, DLit, DLit, DLit, DLit, DLit, Blackboard Monitor)

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  • Overdeity
  • Symbol: Four giant elephants standing atop an extremely giant turtle
  • Portfolio: Subversions, Deconstructions, Lampshade Hangings, Justifications
  • Domains: Good, Creation, Death, Trickery
  • Followers: Gilgamesh (The Epic of Gilgamesh), Akira Takano (School Rumble), Othar Tryggvassen, Gentleman Adventurer! (Girl Genius), Thursday Next
  • Underlings: The Discworld Universe, Aziraphale and Crowley
  • Allies: The Grand United Alliance of Good, Tolkien Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson, Leliana, Edward Chris von Muir, Elan, all death deities
  • Rivals: George R.R. Martin, J.K. Rowling, Tarquin (one-sided)
  • Enemies: The Grand United Alliance of Evil, The Anti-Monitor
  • Opposed by: Crow (Nefarious)
  • There have been authors of universes long before Terry Pratchett became famous. His deities are also limited in popularity compared to other gods. Yet no one has studied the nature of plot and stories as much as Terry. The author even created the Theory of Narrative Causality, the principle which ALL fictional realities have to one degree or another. According to him, there are certain rules that can determine how an outcome carries out in a fictional universe. For example, Terry believes that the reason that good triumphs over evil so many times is because that is how the plot goes. Many wondered if that was the case or that he had enough power to make things so.
    • Terry is also one of the most prolific footnote users in the Pantheon. He is well known for using them to comedic effect, placing them in strategic places and even putting footnotes within footnotes.
    • Shed his mortal coil in 12 March 2015 so he could dedicate more time to the fabric of narrativenote  itself. According to the Theory of Narrative Causality, this automatically earned him a promotion to Overdeitynote .
  • The vast majority of his creations have a varying degree of respect to the writer. The solo ascended exception to this is Rincewind, the resident Cosmic Plaything. He resents the role placed upon himself by Terry, even when he became a deity because of it. Yet Terry is always there to tell him that everything will be alright, even when things don't appear that way. Rincewind has all but resigned to throw reason out the window no matter how little sense it makes to him.
  • As with most other fantasy deities, he is friends with Tolkien's fantasy greatest influence. While Terry often parodies many of the tropes Tolkien himself created, Terry nevertheless has the upmost respect for the writer akin to Mr. Fuji for Japan.
  • This gratitude extends to the works of the Gods of Tabletop RPG Gary and Dave. The two helped further popularize the concept of fantasy to millions of fans everywhere. Terry has always been amused with those who convert his world to the rules of Dungeons Anddragons. As with all other fantasy gods, he was disheartened when Gary had died, but was happy to join him in permanent residence in the Pantheon.
  • Is fond of Bard characters as they usually adhere to the rules he applies and even make efforts to convince their party members to do the same. Elan has done more to promote Terry's works than anyone else and considers the man to be a revolutionary. Leliana is amused with his works and often invites than man for dinner. Edward had a rough time during his adventures as a bard, but improved greatly in subsequent adventures.
  • One of his biggest critics of his theories, George R. R. Martin thoroughly rejects the theory of Narrative Causality and makes sure that none of his characters are under Terry's influence. To GRRM, things simply happen because it was logical and being good or honorable isn't enough to win over evil. What also perplexes Terry is the lack of clearly good or evil characters in GRRM's stories. The rise of Game of Thrones has increase GRRM's prestige, forcing Terry to have debates with the newcomer in order to win over the masses.
  • Tension remains between Pratchett and Rowling after he initially accused her of depicting magic merely 'wizards and silly wands'. While he later clarified that this wasn't a direct attack on the author, her followers did not take the accusation lightly. As such, their followers remain wary of each other.
  • Tarquin also has his doubts in Terry's theories. He never really caught on to why Pterry plays plots just for the fun in identifying them, not for gaining power and undying fame through controlling them. It didn't help that Tarquin never understood the point of the Bard class ''at all'. Terry later decided not to give the villain any more time ever since the later's fall from grace, calling Tarquin a Wrong Genre Savvy Big Bad Wannabe who's upset his son found a way to thwart his ascension as the true Big Bad.
  • As a tribute to Terry Pratchett, the Radiant and the Dire Ancients decided to put their differences aside for a while to create a new artifact with some help from the Discworld. The Octarine Core. From this day forth, heroes of both the Radiant and the Dire sides may build it to show their gratitude for Terry.
  • Is known for creating one of the most likable Death deities in the Pantheon. While this entity hasn't made its presence known in the Pantheon as of yet, the current deities have a lot of respect for the man who helped people be more accepting of death.
  • Believes that the Monitor may have some merit when he stated that the appearance of his race into the DC Universe nearly doomed that multiverse. It is a warning to creators who try to make an overt change to the world. The result of that was the Anti-Monitor. The being has a particular disliking to Terry's insistence of Good's inevitable victory over Evil. The entity hopes to prove the author wrong by erasing all of existence.
  • A foe even worse than that is Crow, a living example of where The Bad Guy Wins. Crow has a good amount of followers who have achieved such a victory. Terry theorized that the future remains uncertain and that a hero will eventually arrive that will be powerful enough to defeat them. Crow longs for the chance to off the author and prove him wrong once and for all.
  • Also has seats on the Main House and the House of Philosophy.

Isabeau Dennis, Divine Heroic Seductress (Bo)

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  • Theme Song: Lost Girl Theme
  • Chaotic Good (formerly Chaotic Neutral)
  • Lesser Goddess
  • Symbol: A leather stiletto boot
  • Portfolio: Horny Devil with With Evil Powers but a Good Nature, Can Charm Any Normal Person, Mommy Issues from Parental Abandonment and Fundamentalists, Knife Nut, ultimately an Atoner with Chronic Hero Syndrome
  • Domains: Good, Lust, Fae, Healing, Freedom
  • Followers: Phedre no Delaunay
  • Allies: Ann Takamaki, SCP- 166, Sol Badguy, Nancy Drew, Skulduggery Pleasant, Ahri, Chloe von Einzbern, Satsuki Kiryuin
  • Rivals: Morrigan and Lilith Aensland
  • Enemies: Handsome Jack, The Queen of Pain, Slaanesh.
  • Opposes: The House of Faith, Hades
  • Pities: Killua Zoldyck
  • Admirers: James Bond, Mad Moxxi, Charlie Harper, Jogn Constantine, Jack Harkness, Barbarella
  • With Ann Takamaki moving in with the rest of the Phantom Thieves in a new temple, she needed a new guardian for her old one. As a fun contest, she motioned her followers to seduce someone from the GUAE to coax any useful information. In the end, there was one success from a woman named Bo. She managed to use her Charm Person spell of Handsome Jack to discover an imminent attack on the Crimson Riders. Once that was resolved, Ann officially handed the temple over to the woman.
  • Bo identifies herself as a succubus as her main ability is to charm and drain the energy out of humans. Her birth parents paint a different story. She is the daughter of a Light Fae and none other than Hades himself (albeit a different one from the ascended ones). With that, she has the potential to become much more powerful than her current level.
    • Regardless of the name, Morrigan and Lilith have been out saying that she is always welcome in their temple. Regardless, Bo is wary of staying with the two for too long. She knows that the two are a corrupting influence and may compel her to activate her more sinister powers, abilities she wants to keep limited.
  • Immediately got into trouble into the Goddess of Evil Bondage when she spotted the Queen of Pain trying to seduce another victim. Not used to beings with teleportation and stunning screams, it was a fight that didn't end well with her the first time. Nevertheless, she strove to continue monitor the outsider. Akasha looks forward to the challenge as well as the opportunity to break the fey.
  • Imagine her shock when she was face-to-face with the one and only Hades, the god she considers as her father. This one in particular is quite different from the King of the Underworld and it is disputed whether the one in her world is the same as the one in the Pantheon. Regardless, Hades thought it would be a good time to invite her to his lair. The offer was soundly rejected as she wants no part with him, whether he is truly her father or not.
  • At first, Bo was unable to control her ability to absorb the lifeforce of those caught in an act of passion with her. However, with some training, she was eventually able to perform intercourse without triggering the deadly effects. Because of this, the SCP Coporation hired her to handle SCP- 166. The being has yet to know how to stop men from trying to force themselves on her. Her experience of controlling urges and the fact that she is not male made her an ideal subject to the subject. Bo was unsure if 166 was a member of her species, but is willing to help the girl out.
  • Finds Chloe to be an odd case considering that the girl does much of the same work that she does despite looking much younger. Nevertheless, Bo insists on sending Fille Fatales over the girl's way. She believes Chloe means well most of the time.
  • This initial lack of control served a purpose; it allowed her to go on a killing spree of those who wronged her, albeit without knowing the true nature of her powers. After learning more about her abilities, she regretted her previous actions and strove to use her powers for good. While her independence prevents her from playing an active role in the GUAG, she does go to Sol Badguy's temple on occasion. She wanted to learn more about the God of Atonement and his followers and their paths towards redemption.
  • Bo learned early on that she wasn't the only one knows how to charm person. It wasn't long before she was hugged by the Vastaya Ahri. The champion had long awaited someone who has had the same experience as her. Both hoped to atone for past murders. The God of Charming did want to see if their magic had an effect on each other. That turned out to be true. Regardless, the two agreed to stay friends and help each other.
  • To the disappointment of many in the Pantheon, Bo revealed she already has a significant other: a police officer named Lauren. She has already went through the love triangle route with a man called Dyson and hopes to stay committed to her. Yes, Lauren agreed to let Bo do her business provided that it is for a good cause. With that said, Bo has stated that Lauren isn't enough to will her biological needs and requires sustenance from others to meet them with Lauren's consent. As such, a number of men and women have volunteered to help Bo meet her needs.
  • That has not stopped Slaanesh from obsessing over the succubus. The being has been trying to tempt Bo over to the Chaos God's side with the promise of permanent sustenance. For now Bo knows better than to risk her life that way and has refused the Chaos God's advances.
  • Moonlights as an Amateur Sleuth from time to time in order to get close enough to people so that she could help them. Like quite a few of them, she isn't that good in the business. Luckily for her, there is a patron for such folk in the Pantheon. Nancy Drew is happy to apply her services whenever Bo gets stumped in a case. She also gives the fae advice on how to solve them to make her a better detective.
    • Of course, there are certain cases that require someone of the mythical sense to help solve crime, an aspect outside of Nancy's wheelhouse. For those cases she turns to Skulduggery Pleasant, God of Occult Detectives. She finds him odd as a good-aligned lich, but appreciates the help he gives her.
  • Readily applies to the Combat Stilettos department of Costume wear. She knows that people love women who wears them and thus are a constant part of her wardrobe. She finds it interesting that the holder of the title is rather aloof instead of upstart. Yet she respects a woman who can fight extremely well despite the footwear.
  • Raised by Bible-loving parents, they tried their best to make her adhere to abstinence. That didn't take, and it wasn't long until she ran away from her family. While she doesn't resent religion, she is wary about working with anyone associated with the House of Faith no matter what their opinion on her lifestyle.
  • It was revealed that her father sired her mother in order for Bo to be used as his champion once she learned to despise both humans and fae. Thankfully, it didn't some to pass and she strives to help people. It is this reason that she feels sorry for Killua's situation. She hopes that the boy can keep up with his redemption.

Edited by Patrickthekid on Sep 11th 2019 at 11:10:34 AM

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#145153: Sep 11th 2019 at 7:59:18 AM

Regarding Horus.

There is a flaw with giving him The Paragon Always Rebels. The origins of his turn to Chaos.

Horus got shanked by a Daemon Weapon during an operation in the Great Crusade. IIRC, one of the shards never got fully taken out.

The short hand is that said demonic weapon started corrupting his very soul.

Tbe true mastermind of the Horus Heresy is actually Logar, the Primarch of the Word Bearers. For it was him that set up that entire incident in the first place.

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
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#145154: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:10:03 AM

Ok, let me reiterate: Horus' turn to Chaos was that when he was brutally injured, a chaos ritual was being initiated at the same planet at the same time when he was being healed. This resulted to him slowly defecting to Chaos. Also, Lorgar may be the mastermind but keep in mind that a.) Horus was the Emperor's favorite and was considered to be the next to his stead and b.) the first point has worse effects when you consider that he was fully responsible for all the damages.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#145155: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:10:40 AM

[up][up]The reasons for rebelling, or if they did so first or willfully, is less relevant. The important part of this trope is they're the last person you'd expect to rebel and so charismatic many follow their tun, which does fit him.

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Sep 11th 2019 at 8:11:03 AM

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
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#145156: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:20:58 AM

[up][up][up][up] Both get a [tup]

Naminé and Schierke are two characters I'll be intending to get into the Pantheon. Currently, Little Miss Badass (Schierke) and either Mind over Manners or A Friend in Need (Naminé). Schierke is an important character in Berserk, so her not being in the Pantheon seems odd for me, plus her magical capabilities are large. In Naminé's case, she seems rather hesitant to use her powers and is forced to do so, in addition to being a key figure in the defeat of Xehanort

Also got Johnny Lawrence on my mind too.

Updated draft for Khazrak and Gorthor as usual.

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Khazrak & Gorthor, Unholy Gods of Inherently Evil Races (Khazrak the One Eye, Gorthor the Beastlord)

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From top to bottom; Khazrak and Gorthor.
  • House of Villains (Villainous Archetypes)
  • Intermediate Gods
  • Symbol: The Horned Head of a Gor (A type of Beastman)
  • Theme: Chaos Undivided
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Beastmen, Chaos-Tainted Race, Volcanic Raging Berserkers, Not Above Violation as a means of Reproduction, Indulging on Bestiality, Grotesque Anatomy, Will feast on humans (And eating Infants is a Delicacy), Normally make homes in Forests, Might Makes Right, Raiding Civilizations out of Hatred on Men, Screaming Warrior
  • Domains: Beast, Evil, Rage, Bestiality
  • Heralds: The rest of the Most Heinous Beastmen from the Warherds
  • Worships: The Chaos Gods
  • Allies: Melkor, Griffith, Nosferatu Zodd, Gul'dan, Diablo, Molag Bal, Barbara Ann Minerva/Cheetah
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Lord Voldemort, The Dementors, Every Evil-Aligned Human-Looking Deity in the Pantheon
  • Rivals: Sauron, The Tyranids, Darkseid
  • Enemies: Guts, Saria, The Monster Hunters, Xion, Madoka Kaname, Viral, Valvatorez, Killia, Zamasu, Seigfried, Nightwolf, Rexxar, Eliza Thornberry, Rexie, The Gang of Seven, Thrall, Skarsnik, Shrek, Marona, Dante, Link, Yoshi, Lord Kroak, Thorgrim Grudgebearer, Karl Franz, The God-Emperor of Mankind, Bowser, Atrocitus
  • Opposes: Nagash the Undying, Any Non-Beastly Being in the Pantheon
  • Opposed By: The Houses of Family, Love and Beast, Most of the House of Nature, Lucifer, The Nippon Ichi Demons, All Rape Victims in the Pantheon, Furry Haters
  • The Beastmen. One of the most chaotic, untamed and disgusting races in the World of Warhammer. The Beastmen are a race, who's essence is enveloped by Chaos, resulting in the birthing of those horribly mutated with traits of Man and Beast. From the day they were born, they carried a special hatred towards Mankind, wishing to bring it down and anything associated with it. these hybrids take heed in deep forests and would often scuffle with one another for food and territory. But should they learn of the presence of a man, Beastmen will not hesitate in forming a coalition, for their hatred is powerful enough to unite a massive army of bloodthirsty mutants ready to massacre, violate and terrify any that stand in their way.
  • Of Beastmen history, they seem to be disregarded in comparison to the other factions on the Forces of Chaos. However, two in particular stood out; Khazrak the One Eye for having tactical approach and displaying a sense of honor and respect never seen in Beastmen and Gorthor the Beastlord, who's fear and depravity would come to define the Beastmen and be held in a similar regard as Archaeon the Everchosen.
  • Though they died a thousand years apart from one another, Khazrak and Gorthor ascended at the same time, immediately followed by the two encountering one another. Khazrak, himself a famous figure in his lifetime introduced himself and told Gorthor about the accomplishments he had. The latter simply retorted by stating that Khazrak still has more to prove himself, though he does seem impressed by the former. The two have since become rivals, with Khazrak and Gorthor often competing against each other for territory, though they will form an uneasy alliance should the need arise.
  • Suffice to say, they have not had a popular audience. Their tribal and warmongering nature resulted in them gaining a number of enemies in the Pantheon. While both are willing to find and kill as many humans (or anything similar) they set their sights on, the two have differing mindsets regarding their opponents. Khazrak likes noteworthy foes to fight against and would plot a strategy to score a victory. Gorthor is also smart for a Beastman, but would instead charge straightforward, killing and raping as many victims as possible. Hence, Gorthor winds up attracting more attention and hatred than Khazrak would, though the latter tends to think its a positive for now.
  • Khazrak has become one of the most interesting beasts in the Pantheon for being part of an inherently evil race, yet displays traits such as honor, patience, cunning and long-term planning, something which is hardly seen in Beastmen. He also likes to fight foes he deems a challenge, stating its fun. Its the reason why he spared his Arch-Enemy, Boris Todbringer in their first battle. Furthermore, his left eye was maimed by Boris, and while that would normally mean he would be shunned for a disability, Khazrak still managed to maintain his hold and leadership. Hence, he formed a close kinship with Nosferatu Zodd, the two of them exchanging blows and having alliances time and again.
  • Gorthor is accounted in history as the most legendary, greatest Beastmen who ever lived. In his lifetime, he amassed a Beastmen army so large, he was able to decimate the provinces of Hochland and Ostland and was personally chosen by the Chaos Gods to be of Undivided. However, Gorthor would establish his legacy in a fashion that would overshadow every other Beastmen's actions. Beastmen Shamans were considered sacred for the race's traditions. Gorthor took the extra mile and committed a sin that even Beastmen would find unforgivable; killing and flaying Beastmen Shamans for their hide, with which to fashion into a hypnotic cloak to hypnotize Beastmen to his service. He also had an unusual drive in his goal of wiping out Mankind, and declared himself to be a chosen being by the Chaos Gods, being gifted a blade, simply known as The Impaler, which was enhanced by magic. Disregarding and killing anyone not under his services, massacring millions whether allied, wanting an alliance or opponents and establishing a nightmarish legacy, Gorthor became a truly depraved, bloodthirsty and sadistic being, one that surpassed ALL Beastmen in that regard.
  • The Beastmen found themselves working with new allies upon entering the Pantheon. Melkor has decided to allow the Beastmen to join his ranks in the Grand United Allianceof Evil. Khazrak is more than happy to join, although Gorthor is more willing to serve the Chaos Gods. That said, he will obey Melkor, for as long as the God of Evil provides him with new lands to plunder and hoard over. The Beastmen also found service under Griffith, who sees the Beastmen as similar to Apostles in some ways. Gul'dan has become rather accustomed with the two leading Beastmen in regards to providing magical artillery whereas Diablo and Molag Bal have expressed praise and need for the Beastmen's actions. Diablo sees Gorthor as a valuable asset in inspiring fear whereas Molag Bal sees the Beastmen in general as masters of plundering, sexual violation and superhuman hatred on civilization. The alliance with Melkor, Griffith, Gul'dan, Diablo and Molag Bal has the polarizing result of also working with evil-aligned humans. The Beastmen aren't really pleased to be working with humans, though with some convincing from Khazrak and Gorthor, there is an uneasy alliance for now.
    • Lord Voldemort expressed an interest in employing the Beastmen into his army, thinking their nature and their affinity to magic would make for an impressive battle unit for himself and Melkor. The Beastmen and Dementors surprisingly work well with one another, although given Beastmen's nature on anyone that isn't them, their teamwork is rough at best. Although with Melkor's promises and persuasion, Beastmen are beginning to work better with other races, even if its little progress.
  • Sauron is jealous of the fact that Meklor and Voldemort got to employ the Beastmen first. Given that Sauron is now allied to Darkseid, the Dark Lord seeks to find an inherently evil race to combat the Beastmen. Darkseid opposes the Beastmen as beastmen are beings Made of Evil, something which Melkor and Yuga Khan also share, although the Lord of Tyranny believes they would make for an impressive force if he got their influence.
  • The closest the Beastmen have to a race as chaotic as them are the Tyranids. Beastmen often wage battles against Tyranids due to territorial reasons. Tyranids want nothing but to devour anything in their path, which Beastmen are opposed to, believing they would have nothing to conquer over if they don't fight. Gorthor has been thinking about using his cloak to bring a number of Tyranids onto his side, a prospect that terrifies everyone, even other Beastmen.
  • Khazrak and Gorthor were rather keen about Cheetah, given she was the Pantheon's representing Beastess and was a vicious one to boot. Cheetah sees the Beastmen as worthy allies in regards to action. She wants treasure, the Beastmen want battle, so their goals don't intertwine with each other's problems, though Barbara would not hesitate to lend a helping hand.
  • The Beastmen are not keen on the prospect and threat of Nagash. Given Nagash is opposed to the Chaos Gods, which Beastmen highly worship, its no surprise Gorthor and Khazrak are ready to wage war against him. Nagash seeks to turn the two leading Beastmen into Undead, thinking they would be great soldiers in his rule. Lucifer has also come to despise the Beastmen, though its mainly due to the fact that Lucifer holds a special degree of respect on humankind, the very kind which Beastmen are hellbent on destroying.
  • With Boris and Mikael being nowhere in the Pantheon, the Beastmen have decided to settle in on making more enemies for themselves. From their homeworld, they were opposed by Lord Kroak, Thorgrim Grudgebearer and Karl Franz who recognize the threat of the Chaos-infested species given their own experiences. The Beastmen also found a new threat in the God-Emperor of Mankind, who believes that the only way to deal with the Beastmen is to simply render it extinct, believing it is the only way to free them from Chaos's services.
  • They are PERMANENTLY BANNED from the Houses of Family, Love and Beast. It doesn't help with Beastmen constantly indulging in violating others in an effort to reproduce given the shortage of female Beastmen. To make matters worse, Beastmen will also target any animal, regardless of size and posture. Khazrak and Gorthor's presence outright terrified The Gang of Seven and tried to "mate" with Rexie, earning her enmity as well when the Tyrannosaur fought back ruthlessly with backup from Grimlock.
    • Unsurprisingly, the House of Nature aren't fond of the Beastmen either, with most of the residents doing their best to not let any Beastmen in their House, especially Gorthor. Then again, they are animistic abominations influenced by Chaos. That said, there are evil beings in the House of Nature who don't mind the Beastmen, a few even taking the time to admire their headstrong and vicious nature.
  • Xion defended the House of Canines during a Beastmen invasion under Gorthor's orders. The whole experience terrified Xion, but also made her unnaturally angry for someone like her, given Xion's love for dogs. Gorthor has since began to treat Xion as an Arch-Enemy like he did with Mikael Ludendorf of Hochland. And unlike Khazrak who can manage respecting his foes, Gorthor despises Xion for interrupting his invasion and for the mere fact that she looks human, resulting in him clashing against her whenever he gets the chance.
  • The Beastmen have also invaded Kokiri homelands, prompting Saria to call upon aid from Link. The Hero of Hyrule would ultimately battle Khazrak and Gorthor whilst also defending the Kokiri tribe and their forest homes overtime. Saria has since made sure to use all of her power to call support and defend her race since the Beastmen invasion, fearing their ferocity and hatred for anything that resembles humans.
  • While their unbridled rage makes them a suitable candidate for a Red Lantern, Atrocitus has made it clear that he has no intention to present any Beastmen the rings. He makes a special example on Gorthor, given how out of morality he is, even compared to the other Beastmen. Khazrak however doesn't mind being denied a Red Lantern, only looking ahead for a good challenge. Atrocitus battles the Beastmen time and again, in an effort to stop them from destroying his Corps as well.
  • Nightwolf hasn't taken the news of Beastmen very well, considering their traditions of having shamans creeps him out. And even then, he himself is horrified by how Gorthor treated Beastmen shamans. Similarly, Marona feels as if the Beastmen are too chaotic for her own good. She has been able to possess several Beastmen, but the strong wills of Khazrak and Gorthor proved too much for her.
  • A "different Beastman", Viral took notice of the Chaos-affiliated Beastmen and was horrified and disgusted by their innate nature and disregard of general morality. He's made it clear to distance the Beastman from any innocent Pantheon members as much as he could and is not above killing them if it means safety.
  • Gorthor and Khazrak's biggest enemy in the Pantheon came in the form of Guts, whom saw them as too similar to the Apostles that he constantly faces off himself. Khazrak personally sees Guts as a Worthy Opponent, similar to Boris Todbringer, although Gorthor simply sees him as another threat, instead putting more of his enmity on Xion. Guts also found their drive for bestiality to be rage-inducing and an unfortunate reminder, which he does best to conceal. If anything, this reminder makes Guts hate the Beastmen more than most Apostles.
  • Among other enemies, Thrall and Rexxar have made it clear that the Beastmen are beyond any chances of negotiation and must be taken on lethally. Eliza Thornberry had one such experience encountering Khazrak, with the latter commanding his forces to kill her on the spot. A timely intervention from Dante saved Eliza, who's since done her best to provide therapy for any animal that were traumatized by the Beastmen. Yoshi and Seigfried have also dealt with Gorthor, the former simply trying to defend his homeland, whereas the latter felt that the Beastmen acted like those who became Malfested and took arms to defend the helpless. Shrek and Skarsnik outright want nothing to do with Gorthor and Khazrak, given their bloodthirsty and perverse nature and always search for help whenever a Beastmen invasion starts showing signs.
  • Madoka Kaname hasn't really taken the news of Beastmen very well. Further worrying was the the race's instincts and loyalty bound down to evil, which Madoka felt was a rather tragic situation as in her opinion, Beastmen are destined to be damned. Despite this, the actions of Gorthor disgust her, given his actions even towards other Beastmen.
  • With Khazrak and Gorthor's invasion on the House of Beast, The Monster Hunters immediately caught news and dispatched to confront the situation. What wound up happening was a great battle between hunters and beastmen as the latter gained an advantage with their massive numbers and ferocity, until fellow Beastmen opponents like Guts, Dante and Link joined in for the former's support. Gorthor and Khazrak did ravage much of the house in ruins before they retreated, vowing for another invasion.
  • The Demons of Nippon Ichi are outright appalled and terrified of the Beastmen, especially given their warmongering nature and unstoppable drive of rape as a means of reproduction. Valvatorez and Killia have it the worst on them; the former sees the race, especially Gorthor, as the absolute worst kind of warmongers whereas the latter sees their Might Makes Right mindset to be chaotic and destructive, all of which the Beastmen embody.
  • For all his villainy, Bowser has nothing but apathy and disregard towards the Beastmen. Khazrak didn't really care, though Gorthor took it as a personal insult. He tried to pull off an alliance with Bowser, only for the latter to rebuke, stating he was once asked by Goblins for an alliance, yet Gorthor not only disregarded it, but had many of the Goblins killed anyway. Gorthor hasn't made a comment about this... yet.
  • Zamasu, still waddling into his disregard for mortals, decided to highlight the Beastmen as examples of mortals being flawed and immoral, despite the Beastmen being aspects created by the Chaos Gods. Gorthor and Khazrak, in turn, see Zamasu as an enemy, plain and simple. Zamasu decided to try killing off as many Beastmen as he could, thinking he could be justified for killing members of a race everyone knows is evil. Instead, Zamasu received further disapproval from most Pantheon residents as usual and earned himself ire from Gorthor and Khazrak.
  • Khazrak has since become one of the most battle-hungry beings in the Pantheon, even by Beastmen standards. He's become a rather notable visitor in the Houses of Combat and War where he will often try to find strong opponents to fight against, even expressing an interest in tournaments hosted by Shao Kahn and Cell.
  • It didn't take long, but it was inevitable; Gorthor became one of the most loathed and shunned figures in the entire Pantheon, thanks to his overblown nature of killing, raping, invading and terrible treatment towards his own fellow Beastmen. His reputation as the most deranged, psychotic and warmongering Beastmen in history even caused a good amount of evil-aligned beings to wince and cringe at Gorthor's actions. Indeed, many Beastmen aren't too fond of Gorthor, instead preferring to work for Khazrak instead. However, Gorthor doesn't care, and relishes on his carnage. And if he can't get minions with words and actions, his hypnotic cloak will do the work for him.
  • Somehow, the Beastmen have gained a negative reception from a group of people who hate what they perceive "Furry Culture". While yes, the Beastmen are Anthropomorphic Animals, they preceded the Furry Fandom by years, in addition to being physically unappealing and not having any negative representations of the Furry Culture anyway. Hence, the Beastmen just takes the Furry Culture comparison as murderous annoyance.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 11th 2019 at 4:23:31 PM

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#145157: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:22:26 AM

[up][tup] for the profile. That Berserk suggestion seems promising.

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HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#145158: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:23:31 AM

[up][up][tup]

Also, I prefer Shierke. I think we have enough KH characters as is.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Sep 11th 2019 at 8:23:44 AM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#145159: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:24:46 AM

[up] We cant never get enough KH tongue

[up][up][up] I think Little Miss Badass is taken or at least was considered, will have to check. [tup] for the goatmen

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WeirdWarrior Press 5 For Senor from the Sunshine State Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Press 5 For Senor
#145160: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:37:51 AM

@Crimson: Sorry dude, but Etna already has Little Miss Badass. If you want to give Schierke a trope, however, you can try to give her the Willing Channeler trope, since a lot of her elemental powers come from allowing elemental spirits to possess her while she casts the spells.

Oh, and [tup] for the goat people.

[down] Sorry man. I tried.

Edited by WeirdWarrior on Sep 11th 2019 at 11:50:34 AM

This time, I'm really gonna do it.
CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#145161: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:41:22 AM

[up] Welp It seems Willing Channeler belongs to Maya Fey.

I did try to find who embodied Little Miss Badass for quite some time. Regardless, at least what matters is there's someone who has that trope.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 11th 2019 at 4:43:13 PM

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SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BourbonDiscordia
#145162: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:44:13 AM

[up] And rmb, you have a limit of 3 tropes to suggest. Since Little Miss Badass is taken, I'll consider tge next empty one you take your first choice.

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CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#145163: Sep 11th 2019 at 9:04:19 AM

"And in that time of darkness, Man became Beast, and Beast became Man."

Regarding Schierke, there's Robe and Wizard Hat that I can take. So far, I don't see anybody who represents this trope, so double-check me if possible. The suggestion is actually due to a personal reason on Schierke's part. They're actually a gift from her mother.

Also, turns out the Villainous Archetypes page has bloated, so there's gotta be some sort of revamping on that.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Sep 11th 2019 at 5:10:16 PM

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#145164: Sep 11th 2019 at 9:36:42 AM

Speaking of Maya Fey, she's in dire need of a rework (and a picture of when she's channeling her sister Mia).

Regarding the proposal for Naminé, Ehh, I wanna say [tup], but...

Edited by nightelf37 on Sep 12th 2019 at 12:39:59 AM

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#145165: Sep 11th 2019 at 9:46:03 AM

[up][up]Surprised Yen Sid from Fantasia didn't get that.

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
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#145166: Sep 11th 2019 at 10:15:07 AM

I feel there are two kinds of ways one wishes to revise a profile, and that it should always be made clear every time to avoid proposing a rework when it's actually unnecessary.

One, a troper merely warrants to do a few changes. (I have done this when I wanted to rework Cordelia.)

Two, a troper want to do a big rework of a deity's profile, which will require much discussion in this thread (and the old restructure thread).

So my question is this: regarding Rhyme down here, is my planned profile revision a case of Type One, or a case of Type Two?

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Rhyme, Goddess of Wistful Amnesia (Skulls Jr., Black, Raimu Bito)

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  • Symbol: Her bell necklace
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Big Brother Worship, Bokukko, Satellite Character, kindness and blonde hair, contented youth, Morality Pet, Sacrificial Lamb, being Only Mostly Dead, Parental Favoritism, Summon Magic
  • Domains: Knowledge, Amnesia, Hopes, Dreams
  • High Priest: Tatsuya Kaname
  • Allies: Beat (her brother), Neku Sakuraba, Shiki Misaki, Joshua, Sora, Riku, Doreen Green, Makoto Nanaya, Yu Narukami, Nanako and Ryotaro Dojima, Sojiro Sakura, Ice King
  • Opposes: Sho Minamimoto, Master Xehanort and his cohorts

  • Rhyme was a kid with hopes and dreams for the future, and she looked up to her brother despite all his shortcomings. Then they took a car to their entire bodies, taking them straight to the Reaper's Game, and with Rhyme without her memories. It was there that they met Neku and Shiki. A lot of things happened during the game and its extra two weeks, such as Rhyme's Erasure, returning as a Noise for Beat to Partner with in order to continue existing, and eventually being revived by the end of the whole Reaper's Game business.
  • A while after returning to the Pantheon, Joshua channeled Rhyme's dreams again, to allow her to enter the Pantheon. Beat was overjoyed and waited by Joshua's side so that he could immediately greet his sister. The joy was mutual, as Rhyme was also overjoyed to see her elder brother. Thanks to Beat winning the Reapers' Game, she'd regained her memories of him.
    • Unfortunately, she's implied to have no specific hopes or dreams for the future, due to losing the Reapers' Game, even though she technically didn't get erased. It reminds her of the time she spent in Traverse Town without her memories. As stated in a document in her homeworld though, a void in one's heart can be refilled as long as one enjoys the present. So Rhyme doesn't let this get her down. She's even found a new goal:
    • Being the nice person she is, Rhyme decided that she'd like to do what she can do jog her followers' memories, and help them out beyond that.
  • Some gods in the Pantheon mistook her for a boy at first, until she spoke. Their reasoning was that while Rhyme isn't necessarily unfeminine, the gods from Square-Enix media tend to look feminine.
  • To better defend herself in the Pantheon, Joshua gifted her a couple Pins she can use for Psyches, and she seems to be able to handle them well. After all, she had to have been a reliable enough Partner for Beat given how Noise battles in the UG work. Neku and Shiki were just never there to see it until now.
  • Her fondness for repeating quotes and adages reminds Solid Snake of Mei Ling, and old ally of his. He suspects they'd get along.
  • Experiences a strange familiarity whenever she's in the presence of Doreen Green. This is because Rhyme spent two weeks as a Squirrel Noise, but she doesn't remember any of that.
    • The two have become friends, and Rhyme has also become friends with Makoto Nanaya.
  • Alongside Beat, she's become fast friends with Yu Narukami. She's even voiced her opinion that sometimes one of the two boys reminds her of the other. Naturally, she also befriended the Dojimas Yu lived with during his time at Inaba.
  • Since Beat's become a frequent visitor of Leblanc, Rhyme has also gotten acquainted with Sojiro.
  • Rhyme has a tendency to secretly take away Beat's belongings whenever she feels that they're distracting him from an important task at hand.
  • With Rhyme's ascension, Shiki is the last one of Neku's friends to ascend, should she ever. Except it turns out Shiki had already been in the Pantheon before her; it's just that her position had been "overridden" by another, and then that representative goddess left it to join her group, and, well... go check Shiki's profile for what exactly happened.
  • She was surprised when one of her followers, Ice King, ascended. The two have spent more time together since then. Even after he's turned back to Simon Petrikov.

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CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#145167: Sep 11th 2019 at 10:39:40 AM

[up] Type 1, or maybe that's just me. Rhyme just needs a few more opposition (about 2-3 more) and some additional info, and you get my [tup].

Settled onto Robe and Wizard Hat for Schierke. And I'll bide my time on Namine, considering I've got a lot of other characters to do.

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon
#145168: Sep 11th 2019 at 11:01:22 AM

No word on this? Im not on a computer right now

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#145169: Sep 11th 2019 at 11:03:26 AM

So I was looking into the SK girls merge, and I found one problem in the fact that there isn't a good image of the Hebijo girls together (at least in their shinobi outfits). Only good option would be to chop this picture in the middle, since it has both Hebijo and Gessen girls together. I would also apply it to the other group, since it is only good group shot with Homura's updated outfit.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#145170: Sep 11th 2019 at 11:23:10 AM

Villainous Archetypes is giving the overly long waring. Thoughts:

I at least intend to move Gunter. Any thoughts on the others?

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#145171: Sep 11th 2019 at 11:27:39 AM

[up] I actually agree with most of what you've proposed. I can see the Unintentionally Sympathetic holder getting cut especially.

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#145172: Sep 11th 2019 at 11:35:49 AM

@Crownless I don't mind the rank promotion

[up][up] Permission to move/cut

Edited by fasoman1996 on Sep 11th 2019 at 3:36:35 PM

Uni cat
Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#145173: Sep 11th 2019 at 12:10:05 PM

Done.

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Sep 11th 2019 at 12:31:30 PM

AlmightyAl Since: Jan, 2019
#145174: Sep 11th 2019 at 12:15:15 PM

Hello, I'm new to this kind of stuff.

I'm not really going to make any Gods for this, but I do have two suggestions;

  • The Great Horned Rat from Warhammer would be a good representative for Rat Men, which I see isn't under the house of Anthro animals.
  • Carnage should be updated to fit his recent "Prophet of the Void" stint he's doing for his dark god Knull. Perhaps he could also be added to the Black Hammers in the GUAD.

[down] That is a good point. Perhaps Thanquol would be better for that instead.

Edited by AlmightyAl on Sep 11th 2019 at 12:21:02 PM

CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#145175: Sep 11th 2019 at 12:18:06 PM

[up] Not sure what to make of the Great Horned Rat. Seems interesting, but I'd rather give Rat Men to one of the more prominent Skaven characters like Queek Headtaker.

Also, I hate rats (they're my least favorite animals). That does not mean I'm stopping you from your choices.

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"

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