Trope Pantheons Discussion

Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018

#148726: Oct 30th 2019 at 7:49:57 AM

@Roku Alhazared I'd say Class 5 would be a good fit. It's powerful, but it works for a single individual.

Also I've been thinking about something. When Ford 1114 showed us his profile for the Code Vein protagonist as the God of Blood Magic, I decided to look more into it. I think he/she may actually be good fit for the trope. I don't have a problem with letting him/her take the trope instead if you guys don't mind. If you guys are also ok with it, I would like to give Sorin the trope of Our Vampires Are Different instead. His vampire race was made via blood ritual with the blood of an Angel. The ritual was taught to Sorin's grandfather by Deal with the Devil, and he isn't actually undead like other vampires. I know that Abel Nightroad already has this trope, but if noticed his profile is seriously lacking and really underdeveloped. So what do you guys think?

Edited by AzureLegacy on Oct 30th 2019 at 10:53:24 AM

CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

The Black Blade

#148727: Oct 30th 2019 at 7:50:11 AM

Nevermind.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Oct 30th 2019 at 2:50:31 PM

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#148728: Oct 30th 2019 at 7:56:21 AM

Sure.

Guys, should I split The Pantheonic Police Force into different pages? And if that consitutes a GUA, I am not renaming it the Grand United Alliance Of Police. No police department has ever been called that and as you can see by me bothering to implement a detailed ranking system, realism is my thing.

50 pages to 6000 guys!

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Oct 30th 2019 at 10:57:11 PM

Retired effective March 1, 2022

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#148729: Oct 30th 2019 at 8:40:05 AM

I wonder if we can make this an October 31st tradition. If only this could be part of a story segment.

This is Halloween, where people often end up dressing up as other people, if they're not doing the classics, and even then one could end up looking like someone else already here.

You can see the following sights:

There's no real reason why these characters dress up like this. It could've been some unnecessary elaborate prank of titanic proportions by powerful magic.

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!

#148730: Oct 30th 2019 at 9:17:17 AM

Greg, Connie, and Peridot get a crash course on Halloween and Peri wears a Percy costume for like a week.

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#148731: Oct 30th 2019 at 9:36:30 AM

Where would Davy Jones go?

Ford1114 Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

#148732: Oct 30th 2019 at 9:43:58 AM

Okay, now that AzureLegacy decides a change and allow Code Vein to represent the deity of Blood Magic, I'm definitely on board and is going to send a second draft of the profile. If anyone else has knowledge of the game to help, feel free.

Edited by Ford1114 on Oct 30th 2019 at 12:45:36 PM

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)

Dog or Oni?

#148733: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:05:36 AM

@Code Vein

Firstly, I am already okay with Sorin with Blood Magic. Its his M.O and one of the more known ones. Secondly, may I remind you that Code Vein has not even reached the 2 month threshold we usually place on recently released videogames or any media really. Code Vein is not exempt from this even more since it was released on the near end of September (the 27th no less).

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!

Shocking Gun!

#148734: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:08:03 AM

Kafuru, Goddess of Water-Based Toy Weaponry

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kafuru_ev.png

Lesser Goddess
Symbol: Luka, her dolphin
Theme Music: Are You an Idiot?
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Dual-Using Water Guns, Summoning A Dolphin to Battle, Water User, Projectiles What Turn on a Dime, Girlish Pigtails, Constantly Insulting Everyone Who Are Below Her, Jerkass, Perfectly Mature Woman, The Smart Gal, Shinobi
Domains: Water, Dolphins, Shinobi
Allies: Ryouki, Ecco the Dolphin, Yuna, Angelia Avallone (Vitriolic Best Buds)
Enemies:
Commonality Connection With: Akatsuki
Kafuru is the youngest child of the current Mikagura Sisters, and the smartest of the three sisters. While her pair of dolphin-shaped water guns might look pitiful, she is able to fire multiple water jets out of them in rapid succession, which can change direction to hit where Kafuru is aiming at. She also carries around a super soaker, but that is for special occasions. And that's not taking account the events of Peach Beach Splash tournament, where all of the contestants were made to fight with water-based weaponry.
While she is a skilful shinobi, her skills are nothing compared to how sharp her tongue is. She is incredibly condescending forwards anyone who she sees being inferior to her mentally, and loves to argue with anyone she can get a grip on, deliberately talking down on them to rile them up.
Because she finds herself being really intellectually mature, she hates being called a child and treated as such. Which in results actually makes her seem even less mature as she seems like due of how persistent she can be denying that.
Due of he Guardian Animal being a dolphin (named Luka), she has a bond with Ecco. Though note that Luka isn't really a nice and playful dolphin, at least by looking at him from the outside.
After hearing about rumours that there is someone who might sound like her, her investigation eventually lead her meeting Mugen Yogoruma. At first Kafuru tried to place her dominance over her in her usual fashion... until Mugen started to throw dirt at her hard, speaking in really complicated manner and with concepts what Kafuru had hard time wrapping her head around. Eventually Kafuru actually started to cry, saying that she will become obsolete at this rate. However, Mugen actually tried to comfort her, saying that her mind isn't half bad for a human, just not good as someone in equal terms with an Outer God. All she needs to do is not get other people's trash talk get to her and she might be set for anything. Kafuru took the compliment well.
Her relation with her and Angelia is an odd one. Both of them spend a lot of time mocking each other. However, they find the fact that they are rather equal in that terms quite interesting, and it has generally turned into playful banter than anything serious.
Besides their shared sense of weaponry, the Inklings have banned her from taking place in Turf War due of the fear that her actual water guns would end up being overpowered and non-beneficial to her teammates.
She, begrudgingly, has some sort of connection with Akatsuki due of both of them being treated as kids even though both of them insist of being treated mature women. Begrudging as it means she has to admit the problem.
One time The Sole Survivor came up to her and said they want to upgrade her water guns. She didn't really understand how they would upgrade them, but she went with it. When she got them back, she didn't understand why they are upgraded to fire soda at people... until she tested them out and found out that the projectiles are explosive. She got mad at the Sole Survivor for providing something this dangerous without informing her and told them to return the guns back to normal.
Is MLG as heck.
There. Case closed.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018

#148735: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:11:56 AM

if we have to wait 2 months before being able to make a profile then could you put on the rules in case someone, like me, didn’t know.

thanks.

Edited by AzureLegacy on Oct 30th 2019 at 1:21:19 PM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!

#148736: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:15:36 AM

I'm actually considering making a sandbox to keep track of works currently under the two month limit and adding a link to that in the main page, but I'd need help since I'm not well versed in media releases and the like.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Oct 30th 2019 at 1:18:21 PM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#148737: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:21:20 AM

The wait was 1 month, not 2

Uni cat

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!

#148738: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:37:50 AM

Wait, really? Everyone else said it was two. I wonder how that misconception happened.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

Google "big ears"

#148739: Oct 30th 2019 at 10:58:42 AM

Probably people getting more draconian with restrictions.

When your average newcomer tends to be a dumbass then i dont blame you but tbh, two months seem too long IMO

Uni cat

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

No. 1 Entourage Fanboy

#148740: Oct 30th 2019 at 11:04:20 AM

Yeah I do agree, but I can also see that everyone thought it's 2 months because after 1, some fans are in that "hype fever" and there are fears regarding that.

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nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#148741: Oct 30th 2019 at 11:11:33 AM

Who can fit The Player Is the Most Important Resource? Only fella I can think of is XCOM's Commander, since not only are they praised by X-COM itself, the Commander gets captured by the aliens in the second game because they know this. There's also their endgame mission where they actually take part (albeit with an Avatar). Perhaps I should make portfolios for Bradford and the rest in the X-COM profile itself. Just like how V.S.S.E.'s profile has portfolios of the individual agents.

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Tadano Hitonari, Avatar of Alignment-Based Endings (Commander of the Schwarzwelt Investigational Team, Langdon Alger, Lance Murdock, Space Marine, Spess Mehren, Japanese Doomguy)

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Lesser God in his DEMONICA, Demigod off of it, Intermediate God in both Chaos Endings, Greater God in the New Neutral Ending
Symbol: His DEMONICA helmet
Theme Song: Morale
Alignment: Starts as Neutral Good, remains so in the Neutral paths, Chaotic Evil in the Chaos path, Lawful Evil in the Law path, Chaotic Good in the New Chaos path, and Lawful Good in the New Law path
Portfolio: Badass Normal And Can Be Empowered, "Space Marine" Protagonist, Adaptive Armor, Sword and Gun, Demon Tamer, Commander of the Strike Team After His Predecessor's Death, Last-Name Basis (As Per Military Procedure), Race Lift, The Stoic, Manipulative Bastard to Demons
- Neutral path: Path of Most Resistance Story-Wise
- Chaos Path: Evil Laugh, Psychotic Smirk, Supernatural Gold Eyes
- Law Path: Prophet Eyes, Path of Most Resistance Gameplay-Wise
- New Neutral path: Engaged In A Forever War Against The Schwarzwelt, I Choose to Stay, Immortal Hero
- New Chaos Path: Path of Most Resistance Gameplay-Wise in Redux
Domain(s): Marines, Exploration, Demons, Law, Chaos, Neutral
Heralds: Arthur (Neutral paths only), their respective Schwarzwelt Investigational Teams
High Priest(ess): the nameless hero(ine)/villain(ess) from Enclave
Followers: Kyle Katarn, Sarah, Leonhardt Raglan, The Kalach-Cha/Knight-Captain, Aramus/The Force Commander, the Novistrana revolutionary leader, Arthur Morgan
Allies: (Insert Name Here)
- Neutral Paths: SMT1!Kazuya, Aleph, Flynn, Isabeau, Philemon, Kazuya Minegishi and Hibiki Kuze, Igor Cosmos, The Doom Slayer, Raava, Cole MacGrath, The Human Child, Low Chaos!Corvo Attano and Emily Kaldwin
- Chaos Path: Jimenez, Mem Aleph, Chiaki Hayasaka
- Law Path: Zelenin, YHVH, Yaldabaoth, Galeem, Hikawa
- New Chaos Path: Jimenez, The Demi-Fiend, Naoya
- New Law Path: Aleph, Raava, The Master, GUAL Magistrate Judges
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: The Imperium of Man (Neutral and New Law Paths), Asura (New Law Path)
Enemies: The Grand United Alliance of Destruction, Dharkon, The Divine Powers, Chakravartin, The Administrators, the Godhand, Griffith, Fused Zamasu, Shekinah (except for the "old" Law and Chaos paths, in which they're more Unwitting Pawn)
- "Old" Law and Chaos Paths: Each other's and the Neutral paths' allies, Dagda and Nanashi, Stephen, Raava
- Except Chaos Path: Jimenez, Mem Aleph, Melkor, Vaatu, Nyarlathotep
- Except Law Path: Zelenin, YHVH, Yaldabaoth, Galeem, Funny Valentine
Supported by: Lucifer (New Neutral, New Chaos, and—yes—New Law Paths)
It's a well-known fact that the Shin Megami Tensei games have multiple endings based on the Player Character's alignment. But with all of the Great Will's Messiahs in the Pantheon already, who else is left to represent that aspect? That was when Stephen found an oft-ignored representative from an ambiguously Gaiden Game.
The protagonist of Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey, to be addressed by his Drama CD name Tadano Hitonari, was a Japanese (or American) soldier of Earth during a present-day time period when the Schwarzwelt appeared in Antarctica. The United Nations assembled a quartet of teams comprised of the brightest minds, most talented soldiers (Hitonari among them), and the most advanced technology they had available. Their mission: enter and explore the interior of the Schwarzwelt, and find a way to stop it before the entire world is consumed.
- Of course, things aren't as simple as that. Their foes proved far more dangerous than it seemed, the Schwarzwelt's reason for existing proved more complicated than it seemed, and the demons proved invisible to the naked eye before a Mysterious Benefactor granted them the Demon Summoning Program for a fighting chance. Humanity would be tested as they explored the Schwarzwelt, and circumstances led to Hitonari being in the lead and ultimately deciding the fate of his kind.
Due to the nature of his trope, all of his versions were required to ascend. That not only meant the Neutral, Law, and Chaos versions, but their New versions, too, leading to a total of six. Upon hearing who was planned for ascension, YHVH and Mem Aleph were quick to bring forth the versions fitting their own paths while Stephen and Cosmos (with anonymous aid from Lucifer for all but one) helped ascend the rest.
In terms of residences, to minimize clashes with one another, their temples take the form of five Red Sprites, the hover-capable landships that the Schwarzwelt Investigational Team used to explore the demon realms, but modified and miniaturized to enable reasonable solo travel with it. Why five when there are six Hitonaris? The two Neutral Hitonaris share a "temple" because they share the same ideals; there's no point in separating them. While the other New Hitonaris are also good people, they have their separate agendas that can take them to different places in the Pantheon.
Applies to all or some of them:
- Wanna know what exactly their paths took them? Well...
  - Law Hitonari helped turn his Earth into a world of total peace where it devotes itself solely to praising the greatness of God (YHVH).
  - Chaos Hitonari helped turn his Earth into a primordial world of gods and demons, where only the strongest survive and humanity is expected to suffer for their role in disrupting the natural order.
  - Neutral Hitonari successfully performs the original mission of the Investigational Team and destroys the Schwarzwelt, but it's implied that it will return so long as humanity doesn't get its act together.
  - New Law Hitonari helepd turn his Earth into a peaceful world without violence that still has its free will, but runs the risk of leaving humanity vulnerable without the will to fight should a threat arise.
  - New Chaos Hitonari helped turn his Earth into one where nature flourishes and humanity can live in harmony with gods, demons and the Earth. Instead of a world ruled by strength, it becomes a world filled with infinite possibilities for humanity, where each person is free to act as they choose.
  - New Neutral Hitonari destroys the Schwarzwelt like his "old" counterpart, but also uses the Cosmic Fruit to become Earth's immortal protector against the Schwarzwelt as it appears again and again until humanity can learn its lesson and break the Eternal Recurrence themselves.
- Despite whatever blessings they've received (if they still retain them), all versions of Hitonari still fight as they did before; with swords, guns, and summoned demons.
  - It was a surprise to discover that the DEMONICA was in the Pantheon's Treasury. Now that there are six more suits, a change of policy has been in consideration in regards to requisitioning and reverse-engineering it. Thus this gave the Grand United Alliances of Good, Law, and Chaos a head start in research. The GUAs of Evil, Destruction, and Machines are now dedicated to capturing the Hitonaris in order to requisition their DEMONICAs for themselves. Other independent forces not among the above who have interest in the suits are trying the same.
- In case you're wondering how Hitonari can either be Japanese or American? Well, he's half of both ethnicities.
- Being of differing alignments, there is naturally opposition among themselves, though mainly from the Law and Chaos Hitonaris, even against their New counterparts. Even New Chaos and New Law have their disagreements. It's a good thing their temples are separate.
- While they're not exactly on their old mission anymore, their expedition in the Schwarzwelt has conditioned them to pick up everything in sight that doesn't have a clear owner (and perhaps beat up the owner if there is and if they think it can benefit them more). The good Hitonaris do their best to use their manners, though.
- Besides those who desire total annihilation of all life, given their interactions with Jack's Squad, there's one thing all Hitonaris share their despisal for; all Private Military Contractors and Mad Scientists, especially if they any sort of morals. And in the case of Law, Chaos, and (to a lesser extent) New Law Hitonaris, the alignment of these mercenaries or doctors doesn't matter to them; they all must die horribly.
- Since there are multiple Hitonaris, all of them would naturally be aware of Funny Valentine because of his Stand's ability to easily obliterate them if they are not careful. The only one who doesn't quite have to worry about that tidbit is Law Hitonari due to the president's affiliations with the GUAL.
Exclusive to the Neutral paths:
- New Neutral Hitonari told the "Old" Neutral Hitonari about the latter's future and its eventual doom via another Schwarzwelt. Neutral Hitonari almost lost his faith since humanity learned nothing and repeated their mistakes to end this way, but <someone in the GUAG> was able to restore his faith in humanity; New Neutral Hitonari was unable to help in this case as he inadvertently serves as an example of the fruitlessness of his struggle since his world's humanity is relying on another higher being for their safety and has been doing so for 150 years before his ascension to the Pantheon.
- Due to his never-ending crusade against the Schwarzwelt, being a soldier heading off into another dimension, being completely and totally human and facing off against monsters that are more or less the stuff of nightmares, it was natural that Doomguy would be a steadfast ally of New Neutral Hitonari (and the older one, too). They even go hunting demons together on occasion, though Hitonari has to avoid summoning his own lest Doomguy commit Friendly Fire on it, and most of the summoned that wouldn't draw his attention are usually unable to stomach the carnage.
- With their new situation in the Pantheon, as well as everything it has to offer, the Arthur that came with New Neutral Hitonari decided it would be best to share resources with the GUAG after deducing Cosmos' intentions. There was a little bit of hesitation on this since they heard of the Lockdown Kazuya Minegishi and his friends experienced, the Demon Summoning everybody got, and the chaos that ensued. However, given the technological state of the Pantheon and all of its residents, this worry was mostly unfounded.
- On occasion, New Neutral Hitonari goes to the moon to relax, just as he's done for the past 150 years after becoming immortal. On occasion, he gets fellow visitors who sit with him, and he wouldn't mind their presence (even if it was someone like Nightmare Moon) as long as he isn't messed with.
Exclusive to the Chaos paths:
- New Chaos and "Old" Chaos Hitonari are both trying to sway Jimenez to following their respective paths. Thanks to having been told about the hypocrisy of his decision and being reminded of what he did for Bugaboo, he's currently on the fence. Using strength to determine their righteousness of their choice isn't working either, as both Chaos Hitonaris keep ending their fights in draws.
Exclusive to the Law paths:
- Due to the nature of her trope, New Law Hitonari is having difficulty getting through Zelenin, who no longer has any faith in humanity, which is not helped with "Old" Law Hitonari always getting in the way of any form of communication under YHVH's orders.
- New Law Hitonari is admired by several deities who abhor violence and are idealistic enough to think that his world would be absolutely perfect.

Edited by nightelf37 on Oct 31st 2019 at 2:32:06 AM

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#148742: Oct 30th 2019 at 11:40:04 AM

Why? We already have XCOM in the Pantheon, why not just mention him there or something.

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#148743: Oct 30th 2019 at 12:27:13 PM

So it’s a 1 month wait right?

wootzits Since: Apr, 2010

#148744: Oct 30th 2019 at 2:10:08 PM

One month after release is not nearly enough for hype to die down. And besides we impose stricter rules on movies, like wait for a physical release which takes much longer, so why shouldn't there be stricter rules for games? Is it because they're more popular with the userbase here? Screw that, this place shouldn't kowtow to current popularity.

Edited by wootzits on Oct 30th 2019 at 9:11:10 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

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#148745: Oct 30th 2019 at 2:18:51 PM

It really depends on the game.

If it's a heavily story driven game like Kingdom Hearts, two months seems fine.

A re-release or remaster? A couple of weeks should do since those characters had a previous entry.

Then we have shorter games with more arcade like things. For example Untitled Goose Game. Game was barely a month old and nobody stopped me from making the profile

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CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon

#148746: Oct 30th 2019 at 2:31:32 PM

Games with big story or revelations definitely need more tighter stuff regarding the hype die down. Honestly, if you're gonna gush about it somewhere it should be in the inner circles and stuff rather than over here. That's a tip from your local lore whore right here.

But back to the point, perhaps some wait time should also account for the gap between digital and physical releases? You know, since people have a preference for one and all? I'd imagine they have their own batches.

@ Hamana: Yes, I have House's profile in my sandbox. It's why I sort of held off on writing an interaction for the Courier. Gonna be ambiguous again, given how I wrote around the Multiple Endings

Edited by CrownlessMimic on Oct 30th 2019 at 2:37:39 AM

All my fault, you say...? What fault? I daresay it's all thanks to me.

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines

The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps

#148747: Oct 30th 2019 at 3:15:47 PM

Mright, done with Unalaq

Unalaq, The Dark Shepherd (Dark Avatar, UnaVaatu)

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Intermediate God, Greater in the Dark Avatar State.
Symbol: Vaatu Within Himself
Theme Song: Tension
Alignment: Neutral Evil that pretended to be Lawful Neutral
Portfolio: Dark Shepherd AND Dark Messiah, Dragon-in-Chief To Vaatu, Evil Uncle, Ambition Is Evil, Badass Preacher, Bait the Dog, Faux Affably Evil, Hates His Brother, Knight Templar, The Fundamentalist, Abusive Parents, Lean and Mean, Villainous Cheekbones, Manipulative Bastard, Moment Killer, Visionary Villain
Domains: Water, Spirits, Manipulation
High Priest: Heimskr
Heralds: Deska and Eska
Allies: Vaatu and his allies, Nyarlathotep, Melkor, Scar, Lady Tremaine, Heihachi Mishima, Vlad Masters, Claude Frollo, Enrico Pucci, Teridax, Xehanort
Enemies: Korra, Raava, Wan, Aang, Tenzin, Mako, Bolin, Asami Sato, Varrick, Lin Beifong, Katara, Sokka, Zuko, Toph Bei Fong, Zaheer, Iroh, Amon, Kuvira, Spongebob Squarepants, Squidward Tentacles, Danny Phantom, Dark Danny, Cosmos, Philemon, Tidus, Yuna, Sora, Riku, Divine Powers, Mata Nui, Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind, Amaterasu
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Ozai
Opposes: Galeem and Dharkon
Unalaq, the man who set off an entire civil war and manipulated countless people just to become the Dark Avatar managed to worm his way into the Pantheon. Proclaiming himself as The Dragon for Vaatu, Unalaq announced his presence much to the chagrin of those who know him. Unalaq could be seen with a shit-eating smirk afterward.
- To elaborate on his character even more, Unalaq ascended to chiefdom after having his brother banished. Before Harmonic Convergence would occur, Unalaq would have to open the Spirit Portals. That’s where Korra came in, who was conveniently his niece. When Dark Spirits arrived to herald Vaatu’s eventually return in the South Pole, Unalaq started to preach how the people lost their spiritual connections and needs to be guided to reform that connection as a way to justify the Northern Tribe’s occupation. It was all a front to ensure Vaatu’s resurrection wasn’t disrupted, working well for him as Vaatu let him become the Dark Avatar. Didn’t work well when he got purified by Korra due to being a Dark Spirit with the same technique Unalaq taught her. What a way to go down.
Due to being killed in the Dark Avatar State, Unalaq was rendered no longer the Dark Avatar thanks to Vaatu being removed inside him. Unalaq pleaded for Vaatu to fuse with him once more but Vaatu doesn’t want to take chances. Unalaq’s still sticking with Vaatu in hopes to be rewarded with the power once again.
Shrek: Like that’ll ever happen!
Still goes around preaching about how to appease spirits to others, ranting on how technological advancement is bad and all that. This is more or less wanting to sway people to Vaatu’s side. Most people take his speeches with a grain of salt considering he tried enslaving spirits in his plans.
- Speaking of preaching, Unalaq unfortunately has a very annoying High Priest named Heimskr who migrated under him thanks to Talos vanishing from the Pantheon. Heimskr seems to also disdain Unalaq as the priest rants on how Unalaq’s plans are evil and that Talos is the true hero of mankind, not spirits. Well... he isn’t wrong on the first part.
Once a member of the Red Lotus, which was where he heard the stories of Raava and Wan. While the Red Lotus were perfectly okay with the idea of releasing Vaatu and kidnapping Korra, they would have tried stopping his plan of becoming the Dark Avatar. Zaheer is keen to remind Unalaq that every Red Lotus member is now against him.
Amon considers Unalaq to be the epitome of the corruption of benders and is somehow unintentionally brought back Airbenders to the world. Kuvira is also pissed of Unalaq’s arrival, as if Unalaq didn’t enact his plans, Zaheer and the rest of his team wouldn’t have killed the Earth Queen and caused chaos to the Earth Kingdom.
Thanks to being an enemy of his niece and endangering his own kids, Unalaq made friends with the Child Abuse Supporters. He gets particularly well with Scar but has an iffy relationship with Ozai, as insane as Unalaq’s plans are, he’s still proud of the Northern Water Tribe and won’t forget the Fire Nation’s attempted invasion.
Due to his element being water, Unalaq somehow made enemies with Spongebob and Squidward. Spongebob is appalled by the fact that this maniac used what sea creatures use as air and somehow pisses off Squidward even more as Unalaq and him have similar grumpy personalities.
Also managed to become the enemy of Danny Fenton due to being able to corrupt spirits. While spirits in the Avatar universe are different than ghosts from the Ghost Zone, Unalaq is considered a very dangerous person to all mystical entities. Unalaq isn’t fond of the hero either and is even more threatened by his Bad Future self. However, the bender has made friends with Vlad Masters who’s desire for worldly domination as well.
Made friends withs several religious preachers like Enrico Pucci and Claude Frollo. While they all believe in different things and have differing goals, the four have somehow managed to befriend each other without any of these facts getting in the way.
- Frollo is a bit too lustful and has an extreme Holier Than Thou attitude for Unalaq to truly consider him a reliable ally. Despite this, Unalaq respects Frollo’s excessive faithfulness and the how much conviction he has to his beliefs.
- Pucci seems to respect Unalaq’s wishes to change the world for what he perceives as the better. Much like how he tried to reset the world and succeeding.
Teridax seems to appreciate how Unalaq managed to manipulate everyone despite his Obviously Evil appearance, without having the need to shapeshift like he does. Mata Nui seems to oppose Unalaq for his attempts to drag the world into darkness. Speaking of which...
... Xehanort and Unalaq get along swimmingly, as they both believe in the Balance Between Good and Evil. The commonality between them is that their place in this balance is in The Dark Side. Though may be a but subverted now due to Xehanort turning out only wishing for to remove everything to prevent evil while Unalaq’s endgame was to drag everything into darkness.
Doesn’t think highly of the Divine Powers, believing group of gods’ rebellion has created an imbalance between order and chaos, two factions just as important as good and evil. Their imbalance is not a good thing, as they really just want to recreate The Multiverse to become worshipped again.
Is considered an enemy of humanity, something the God-Emperor of Mankind has said. Unalaq was declared an enemy of the Imperium, a fact which hinders his plans since he’s hunted by people in ginormous armor. No water can help him against a blaster to the face.
Absolutely freak out upon Galeem and Dharkon. Unalaq thinks their battles are worse than Raava and Vaatu’s conflict after seeing one time they escaped. Unalaq’s not even sure that the Dark Avatar and the Avatar themselves can face even one of them together with a sure chance of victory.