Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles:
Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles:
The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM
Darth Sion from Knights of the Old Republic 2. His Dark Side power confirms immortality through The Power of Hate by putting his body back together, but in practice comes off as a Revenant Zombie who literally puts his body back together. I would have suggested him, but I am not knowlegable enough about that series to give the profile proper justice. Also I am wondering if anyone would be interested in finding something for Revan
After 300 years, Blackbeard has returned to reclaim his position among the greatest of all pirates
Reposting the Backdraft Group. Are they good to go?
The Backdraft Group Members , Unholy Organizations of Unsanctioned Battles (Backdraft Organization)
- Lesser Gods
- Symbol: The Berserk Fury
- Theme Song: Dark Judge Appears!
- Alignment: Neutral Evil
- Portfolio:
- As a whole: Unsanctioned Battles, Bribery and Blackmail, Nebulous Evil Organizations, Awfully Dirty Fighters
- Vega: Arch Enemy To The Blitz Team, Lazy Geniuses, Cavalier Competitors, Child Prodigies, Zoid With Counter-Attack Skills , Friendly Rival to Bit, Name Which Means "Vague Obscure", Sarah's Second In Command
- Sarah: Main Villain, Vega's Protective "Mother", Traitorous Subordinates
- Pierce: Ace Pilots, Luminescent Blushes When She Is Teased By The Wild Eagle, Spirited Competitors
- Polta: "Executive Officer" Style Loser Bureucrats, Stuck With All The Bad Luck, Forced To Deal With A Unbearable Prisoner
- Sanders: Number Two To Stoller
- Stoller: Defectors From Decadence, Knights of Cerebus , Worthy Opponent To Bit
- Altail: Lack of Respect
- Dark Judge: Color-Coded for Your Convenience
- Domains: Unsanticioned Battles, Mechas, Sports
- Allies: Most evil-aligned deities from the House of Crime and Commerce, Pokémon Hunter J
- For Vega: Tyson Granger, Syaoran Li, Spike
- For Stoller: Phoenix Wright
- Rivals: Team Rocket (a friendly one)
- Enemies:
- Zoids deities (sans Sanders, Stoller, Pierce and Vega, who are in good terms):The Blitz Team, Van, Fiona, Rosso, Viola, Rudolph, Thomas
- Others: Every single member from the GUAG division, as well as some members from the House of Justice, Ash Ketchum, Red, Calem, Serena, Cloud Strife, Arthuria Pendragon (as well as her Prototype counterpart), Lan Hikari and MegaMan.EXE, Double-D (likely because the Dark Judge finds him annoying)
- Opposes: Hiltz, Cyrus, Ghestis, Lysandre
- The Backdraft Organization, also known as Backdraft Group is a shadowy criminal syndicate that rules unsanctioned battles. They are ruled by the mysterious "Committee of Seven", with an unnamed Count residing over it. They oppose the Zoid Battle Commission as a matter of principle, and use their own Judges, called Dark Judges, to hijack legal Zoid battles.
- They win over competitors by offering very large amounts of prize money, usually measured in multiples of regular prize money. However, in return, participants that lose must gave up all their Zoids. Teams that do not participate in battles are often attacked anyway, to show that the Backdraft always get their way.
- The Backdraft Group also have some connections with the most notable criminals from the House of Crime. It helps that some are very rich and like battles without rules. They also have allies in the form of the evil-aligned deities from the House of Commerce, likely for the same reason.
- Sometimes they're hired by The Corpus, as they also gained an interest by Zoids. It helps that they're also interested in the Pokémons even before they ascended.
- The Blitz Team are their major enemies, given that they're always (but not that much) ruining their domination plans. Bit Cloud is the worst, because of his powerful Liger Zero.
- But especially Major Polta, which avoids Leena at any cost. And considering his previous encounter with her...
- The Backdraft Group also hates Brad due to his "supposed" betrayal, which costed their Shadow Fox.
- Considering that they're allies of the Blitz Team, the fact that the Backdraft Group are in war with the GUAG is not surprising:
- They're not amused with Domon Kasshu, especially after he discovered that they'll do everything to win, which includes cheating.
- They also have a strong dislike of Suzaku Kururugi, as they remind them of Bit Cloud, especially when he uses his Lancelot Albion.
- Then there's Heero Yuy and his Wing Zero...
- Most members of the Backdraft Group, like Sanders, Stoller, Pierce and Vega are in good terms with the Blitz Team, as well as their allies.
- Phoenix Wright seems to have a familiarity with Stoller, as he reminds the lawyer of Simon Blackquill, one of his rival prosecutors.
- When he is not working, Vega also have a good friendship with Tyson Granger, Syaoran Li, Spike, because of their similarities. It helps that the latter is also a literal dragon, reminding Vega of his Berserk Fury.
- The Backdraft Group are sometimes compared to the Team Rocket, both evil organizations whose only goal is to use and exploit Mons to gain wealth and power. Which makes them great enemies with Ash Ketchum, Misty, Brock, Red, Calem, Serena.
- Although they're still openly opposing other criminal organizations, like Team Galactic and Team Flare, given their plans of world destroying. Which is not good to their dirty business.
- Sometimes the Backdraft Group hires Pokemon Hunter J in their operations. It helps that she looks like a Backdraft member when she wears her shades.
- The Dark Judge is annoyed by Double-D, likely because of his voice actor, only more annoying. The relationship is one-sided from the judge's part, given that Double-D thinks that he is funny.
- Sometimes, when they're not trying to steal zoids, the Backdraft Group can kidnap some people for a quick buck. Too bad said plans are also foiled by another saviors outside of the Blitz Team.
- They tried to kidnap Lan Hikari and bribed him to hack a site. It was somehow easy, considering that Major Polta sounds similar to Lan's father Yuichirou, pretending that Yuuichiro was kidnapped by the Backdraft Group. Their plan was foiled by Megaman.EXE as well as the other Megaman, The Maverick Hunters, Geo Stelar, Vent and Aile.
- They also tried to kidnap Arthuria Pendragon in a way of getting paid by Gilgamesh. At first the plan was successful, but them Shirou, Rin, Ilya, Sakura and their servants saved their ally and a big battle ensued. To put the cherry on the top, the Backdraft Group gets blasted off by an EXCALIBUR!!
- Thanks to said kidnappings, they're targeted by the Phantom Thieves. It's unknown if they're going to steal their hearts, albeit only Vega, Stoller, Sanders and Pierce are the only exceptions.
- The other Zoids deities are aware of the Backdraft Group's bad reputation and declared war against them. That said, they're in good terms only with Vega, Stoller, Sanders and Pierce.
- Even though the group opposes Van and his friends, they still draw the line towards Hiltz and his Omnicidal Mania. Likely because of the same deal with Cyrus and Lysandre. Which is not helped that Hiltz sounds like Bit, if he was Drunk with Power.
- This battle has been taken over by the Backdraft Group!
What do you guys think of these ideas?
Some day, I am thinking of something for Farnese and Serpico. As a duo, Mistress and Servant Boy would work. As individuals, I'm less sure but Farnese could fit Silver Has Mystic Powers and Serpico Diagonal Cut. What route should I go for?
Separate. The page image is giving me different ideas (which I won't be working on).
TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members DatabasePreferably a duo to save some space.
Uni catIs Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist or Melcolm Xerox taken?f
edited 20th Mar '18 7:11:23 PM by WhirlRX
Neither is taken. Any potential suggestions?
Uni catAgain, to be sure, The Luteces for Finishing Each Other's Sentences. Any objections?
The One Who Crosses The Sky In FlamesNope.
Anataeus Vaya, Patron Saint of Programming Games
- Potential House: Gaming Genres
- s:
- Demigod
- Symbol: A hex grid with elemental/metal Reagents, manipulators, and glyphs.
- Alignment: True Neutral
- Portfolio: Insufferable Genius, From A Steampunk World, Alchemy as Mundane Utility, Alchemy Not Being Magic
- Domain(s): Alchemy, Genius, Programming
- Precursor: The Incredible Machine
- Herald: Concordia Lem
- High Priests: the SpaceChem reaction enigneer, the Infinifactory engineer
- Followers: Opus Magnum players, Master Factory Computers
- Allies:
- Rivals:
- Enemies:
- Finding a representative for Programming Game was a hard task, given that either only the "programming" and machine where the work is done matters, or the player character is lacking in details. And then came Anataeus, protagonist of Opus Magnum, and who has actual characteristics. Anataeus is rather miffed that that was why he was invited to the Pantheon, but he's certainly not complaining.
- Nobody knows for sure what had happened to him and Concordia after fleeing once the latter's vengeance on House Colvan was fulfilled, but it's known that the offer for ascension was given after that, which is why Anataeus accepted the position. His companion Concordia was then chosen as his herald and to sort of serve as his moral compass and pull him away from his work if need be.
- Brought with him upon his ascension are his transmutation engine* (and all its parts and how to make them), special dispensaries for all the basic alchemical atoms (fire, water, air, earth, lead, quicksilver), and all the glyphs and tools he needs for making the various devices he's created over the course of his story, which in turn are all brought* as well.
- Among those machines are those that create simple things like refined/purified gold (though he finds it trivial), face powder, waterproof sealants (for seafaring ship hulls), hangover cures (potable water), fuel (for airships), (precision) machine oil, hair gel (at a noble's insistence; fragrances can be added by someone else), rocket propellants, explosive phials, armor filaments, courage potions (actually, alcohol), cloth stain removers, sword alloys, invisible ink, (alchemical) jewels, voltaic coils, unstable compounds (for explosives), poison lipstick, etc. And then there are other wonders such as…
- A health tonic for regulating irregular heartbeats.
- A "stamina potion" for "a little boost at the necessary time". Apparently, it has something to do with reproduction and is for men's consumption.
- Mist of incapacitation (a.k.a. knockout gas).
- A water purifier, though the result is slightly sour and somewhat bitter.
- A solvent for removing (document) seals, though it potentially has more uses than just that.
- Climbing rope fibers that are strong and resilient, yet light and easy to carry.
- A warming tonic for keeping the body warm.
- A "life-sensing potion", which can be used by stealthy folks for sensing heartbeats of patrollers in the form of pulses. It's advised to stay away from crowded areas while using it, though, but rest assured the drinker won't collapse into a quivering heap of nerves when that happens.
- Very dark thread for easier shadow-sneaking. The House of Costumes (and some sectors in the House of Crime) make several orders for this product.
- Golden thread. The House of Costumes make several orders for this, too.
- Mist of hallucination, which probably works as advertised. It seems best appropriated for small spaces.
- A "timing crystal". Only Anataeus knows how this should operate.
- The "universal solvent", which he wistfully bemoaned would never be known in his world due to survival and their revenge against House Colvan hinging on no evidence of his work remaining taking precedence over his desire for recognition. Given what the Pantheon is, now it is known.
- However, because of its potential to change the course of the war, and it's implied that Anataeus dissolved his original transmutation engine with that solvent, Anataeus knows he has to eventually pick a side lest he be kidnapped by one of the Grand United Alliances and be forced to make the solvent for them, or be otherwise removed for a long time (while death is not an issue, there are fates far worse). As such, he's decided that joining the GUAG is his best choice, and Concordia concurs.
- Due to his alchemy being a delicate process, he's not willing to let just anybody use his transmutation engine without his supervision. That said, there is a simulation program—which Anataeus is still grasping at the subject of—available for "public" use and for his followers (which he's still getting used to having), which emulates all the features in Anataeus' transmutation engine. One just has to make sure that their device (with its parts and the instructions they input) can perform at least six cycles without screwing up before submitting their "blueprint" to Anataeus. After that, he may decide to have the device replicated for use, but without being customizable like his engine.
- To his surprise, he ends up getting several thousands of submissions, and—barring inefficient models that just focus on getting the job done—he deduced that they're all classified into at least three different types; those that focus on production speed, those that are concerned with minimizing space, and those that are very economical with machine parts. Thankfully, his followers volunteered to filter through them, and even improve on them.
- Given that he didn't think one alchemist could change the world alone, and that he doubts one could get more than one alchemist to even agree on anything, Concordia had to convince Anataeus to teach them how to use the engine for real for purposes other than constructing devices after several replicas have been commissioned. Even though they don't actually understand the fundamentals of alchemy the way he does, they do know how to operate it. Besides, if things should go wrong, the Pantheon has the means to get him spares.
- Aside from turning lead into gold, no work on any product is beneath him. Of course, gold isn't the only precious resource in the Pantheon, though he risks messing up the economy if he overdoes it.
- Anataeus' interests lie solely on practicing his brand of alchemy, though Concordia's been getting him to go out more and learn all the other parts of life. And among the things he's learned doing so are the other forms of alchemy, namely that in the world of Fullmetal Alchemist. Right now, he's reserved his opinion of them to himself.
- Can't really stand overly formal dinners given the stuffiness he had to endure in his time as Head Alchemist of House Van Tassen. Nor does he tolerate those who don't take warfare seriously or value property more than victory.
- In his downtime, Anataeus sometimes plays a solitaire game called Sigmar's Garden for unwinding purposes. And to get around the issue of using alchemical proxies, Concordia commissioned actual marbles for the game. So as not to end up getting bored with that game, Anataeus sometimes takes a gander at the House of Gaming for other (non-fast-paced) time-consumers. He's stayed away from the digital consoles though after finding himself having wasted so much time in one of them.
- Doesn't converse with his "colleagues" in the GUAG Engineering Division unless absolutely necessary. That said, he sometimes gets visitors, some who are genuinely fascinated with his transmutation engine and all the products he's able to produce with them.
Starlight Glimmer, Goddess of Former Main Villains
- Potential House: Character Roles
- s: 1 (RJ-19-CLOVIS-93)
- Intermediate Goddess
- Symbol: Her cutie mark, a star with wisps of magic above it
- Theme Song: The closest she can think of is Friends Are Always There For You for her redemption. Formerly Our Town, which she's since denounced.
- Alignment: Neutral Good (used to be Lawful Evil, then Chaotic Evil)
- Portfolio: Ex-Big Bad, The Atoner, Anger Issues And Over-Reliance On Her Magic, Friendless Background In Youth Leading To Madness And Fear Of Loss And Pain, Innocently Insensitive, No Social Skills Yet Is The Social Expert, Princess Twilight Sparkle-Levels Of Magic Fueled By Emotions, Self-Levitation, Very Logical, Not Thinking Things Through, Never Living Down Her Transgressions And Being Self-Punished For Them
- Domain(s): Former Villainy, Magic, Redemption
- High Priestess: Regina Mills
- Followers: Given the many paths Ex-Big Bads can take after their defeat, three different sects were formed. Starlight mainly acknowledges the first, is wary of the second, and would prefer to remove the third.
- Redeemers Sect? : Rob Lucci and the CP 9, Hector Barbossa, Flenser, Lord Steel, Captain Bialar Crais, Scorpius, King Richard, Mona Vanderwaal, Mir, Optimatus
- Retirees Sect? : Evil Harry Dread, Valmont, Dark Star and Phala
- Demoted Sect? : "Tin-Plate" Wapol, Buggy "the Clown", Gellert Grindelwald, Warren Mears, Malcolm Merlyn, Mr. Big, Daolon Wong
- Allies: Twilight Sparkle, Spike, Trixie, Maud Pie, Pinkie Pie, Applejack, Rarity, Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, Princess Celestia and Princess Luna, the CUtie Mark Crusaders, Princess Cadance, Shining Armor, Zuko, the Human Child, Sans
- Rivals:
- Enemies: Queen Chrysalis, Nightmare Moon, Tirek, The Dazzlings, Amon, YHVH, Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash
- Other Ex-Big Bads: Enel, [[ Crocodile]], Donquixote Doflamingo, Geese Howard, GLaDOS, Zaheer
- Distrusts: Negan
- Opposed by: the Dakaha
- Not every Big Bad who is thwarted by the heroes (or a mistreated minion, or a traitorous Dragon) goes down in death or is sent behind bars never to be seen again, but what does happen to them if that's the case? Sometimes their villainous role is merely reduced. Sometimes they just retire and stop doing villain work altogether. Sometimes, they even turn to the side of good. Starlight Glimmer is among the last, and quite a few of her friends (like her nemesis-turned-mentor Twilight Sparkle, as well as Trixie, her first real friend after her reformation) petitioned for her ascension. Starlight was overjoyed to be reunited with them once more, and honored that she's here.
- That said, her title brings forth a slew of followers, and not all of them are redeemed like Starlight. The Court of the Gods helped get these "sects" segregated to mitigate chances of in-temple conflict. That said, given her title, she was glad not to have been sent to the House of Villains instead.
- Out of the friends Starlight hangs with, Maud is the most frequent (by virtue of being in the same sub-House), with Trixie as a very close second as she always makes time for visits. In fact, other deities can swear that Maud smiles around her almost as much as she does around Pinkie, perhaps even a little more. Still, any who mention how Maud directed Starlight to the rock that she used for her Our Town scheme
- Is truly ashamed of her actions in the past and naturally opposes Amon (whom she was surprisingly a lot like at first, and was extremely unnerved at that) and Eobard Thawne (for the things she's done in vengeance of her first plot failing). Plots involving loss of individuality also brought her to hate YHVH (but then again, aside from His most devoted, who doesn't hate Him?), and her past sins earned her the Dahaka's scrutiny.
- He in particular is particularly pissed at her given how she's not only screwed up Equestria's timeline several times over, but also thwarted several efforts to fix it, resulting in those numerous timelines. As such, she's been banned from the House of Time And Space for her own safety lest she incur his wrath.
- And of course, most displeased to hear of her arrival is Queen Chrysalis, but after her massive decrease in changeling followers, she's biding her time because she knows what happened last time she attacked a newly-ascended deity (Princess Cadance). Starlight for her part hopes to eventually reach out to and reform the Changeling Queen, just as Twilight had done with her. Opinions from others are divided on this choice.
- Is glad she doesn't need to cross worlds just to meet Sunset, now that they're both in the same place. She's also been "given access" to her human form there should she ever wish to take on that.
- Twilight once noted to Barbie that she sometimes sounds like Starlight. Now that she's here, the princess has taken the chance to have the two meet. Barbie was glad to finally meet her, and to see her finally reform and solidify her position as a heroine. And to think that Twilight took her in because she was too dangerous as an enemy and would be valuable on the side of good.
- Having been a latch-key kid◊, she sympathizes with victims of Parental Neglect and opposes those who perform such acts (of course Abusive Parents are much worse).
- Heard of an alternate timeline where instead of Twilight who redeems her, it was Sans of all people. That said, in there, he did give her a bad time first before presenting the Human Child to prove his point.
- Is really good at reading others, proven when she swayed the inhabitants of her village to her way of thinking, and when she helped resolve an internal strife between Princesses Celestia and Luna (helped by the fact that she doesn't default to being delicate around either like most anypony else due to being outdated in current events prior to her Heel–Face Turn).
- In fact, the events in the latter have brought the concept of Personas to her attention. Naturally, she asked Twilight about this, who directed her to Yu Narukami, who explained as much as he can on the subject. She also learned that among the Equestrian deities who have become Persona-users were the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Rarity, Princess Luna, Sunset Shimmer, and (thanks to Starlight) Princess Celestia. And with the ever-rising threats in the Pantheon like the Divine Powers and Zamasu, Twilight's been thinking it's about time to get Personas for the rest, and Starlight's naturally among them.
- Just like anybody else, the fillies' recent unchildlike behaviour unnerves her, and Twilight has told her about their (two) experiences in Limbo.
- There are those who theorize that in her time as a villain Starlight wasn't just rebelling against cutie marks, but against destiny itself. After the theory video has been reviewed by them, the House of Prophecy has added her among their "Deities of Interest" lists.
- And there are those who wonder if she really did break destiny and Twilight fixed it in her attempts to stop her, or if destiny was fated to be broken only to be fixed later and for Starlight to be reformed. That kind of question about destiny when time travel gets mixed up in it is often a big headache for just about anybody to ponder on for too long.
My god, Eddie Low is a fucked up dude. I didn't even think he was that fucking deranged. Jesus...
Edward Low, God of Attacking Someone More Dangerous (Eddie Low, Eddie, Ed, Filth Slayer, No-name killer, Keep-Fit Killer, Head Hunter)
- Potential House: Criminal Punishment
- Demigod
- Symbol: His Knife as well as his blog avatar.
- Alignment: Chaotic Evil
- Portfolio: Serial Killer, A Love to Dismember, Creepy Blue Eyes, Depraved Bisexual, Horrible Sense of Humor, Enfant Terrible, Psychopathic Manchild, Self-Made Orphan, The Sociopath
- Domains: Murder, Insanity, dismemberment, Criminals, Twisted Love, Sexual Abuse
- Allies: Jack The Ripper, Brave Companions, Wild Hunt, Richard Trager, Bambi "Buck" Hughes, Ethan Roark Junior
- Enemies: Niko Bellic, Jacket, Dollface (Black), Manny Pardo, Oedipus
- Oppossed by: House of Beast, Family, some humanoid monsters and even people who find him highly disturbing.
- It was a day like any other, many deities doing their things as usual, until someone discovered a mutilated body of a deity who happened to be strolling around. When the person in question was revived, they felt shocked and couldn't describe who or what killed them. This series of events kept going for weeks, until the House of Justice commenced a special operation to find the culprit. After a long investigation and finding paralels to an infamous killer belonging to Liberty City, whose modus Operandi was killing random joggers in different places, it was found that the culprit was Eddie Low, a deranged human being whose hobbies consist of masturbating in public and tearing off the limbs of his victims. He was quickly apprehended after he tried to murder another deity but killing was not an option. In the end, Eddie Low stuck around after managing to evade the authorities and escape his trial by getting a house in the Crime House, although he is not very proud of why.
- While Eddie was already infamous in Liberty City as the "Keep-Fit Killer", he met a rather unfortunate end when he attacked the wrong person. That being Niko Bellic that while they started on somewhat decent terms and Eddie believing he made a new friend, he eventually got angry at Niko because Eddie was creeping him out and decided to try to kill him. Big mistake as unbeknown to Eddie, Niko has killed dozens of mobsters and policemen and was a trained hitman at that, so he easily dispatched Eddie by gunning him down. Thus, the deranged Eddie Low met a gruesome end and a well deserved at that.
- He wants to take revenge on Niko for, in his own words, betraying his friendship. Of course, given how deranged Eddie is, it's pretty likely that he forgot what happened the last time he threatened Niko. Then there are other, like Jacket and Dollface, who have heard of Eddie and wouldn't mind reminding him what happens when you go attacking any random person because he felt like it and like Niko, they won't hesitate to kill him.
- His temple is filled with nasty things all over it, ranging from feces, vomit and even some "leftovers" from previous guests. Anyone who has entered his place hasn't done it by choice and often leave those deities heavily traumatized (Unless they are already too far gone themselves). He also keeps his mother's severed breast in a shoe box, which he often masturbates to because he was in love with her even if she was strict and she might be the only victim of his that he never intended to murder (Apparently, she died suffocated by sand after Eddie kept pushing her head deeper)
- Depraved as he is, Eddie has actually to make some friends. And no, we aren't talking about "friends" but actual deities who at least tolerate him. One taking a stroll down his house he came accross the Brave Companions, a group who made him feel really at home. He also is buddies with Wild Hunt, although he is kind of awkward around Cosmina and Dorothea given his lack of relations with women they nonetheless all are ok with "working" with him in their own perversive acts.
- He is bisexual and has no problem assaulting anyone be it male or female, although he usually he gets a lot of retaliation from nearby deities who spot him on the act. He often likes to hang around with Buck because of that since, while homosexual, they are more or less similar in how they approach others. There are some theories that maybe both Eddie and Buck have done really nasty stuff to each other that they are not talking about.
- He has every depraved fetish covered for better or worse, like crossdressing, torture and mutilation, bestiality, necrophilia and public masturbation. There is not a single deranged thing that Eddie hasn't done yet and that has creeped out a lot of people, has received a huge backlash from the House of Beast and even some humanoid monsters fear running into him. Some even wonder if Niko is supposed to be more dangerous than him (He is, but he is not a deranged psychopath about it).
- Eddie didn't have the best upbringing either. His father forced to wear women clothes and abused him (probably kickstarting his crossdressing habit) and he later killed him out of spite, he was in love with his mother as stated before even if she was very strict and he even killed his younger brother by throwing him into the oven. His grandparents also were constantly innapropriate touched numerous times, forcing Eddie to spend a lot of years under mental institutions, which none actually helped him get better. As such, the House of Family heavily opposses him.
edited 20th Mar '18 8:43:43 PM by fasoman1996
Uni catNot-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist is taken, but Malcolm Xerox is not
edited 21st Mar '18 12:40:58 AM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
Who has the first.
@Starlight Glimmer remove the empty Rivals bullet point and ya have my
Seems ok for me.
edited 21st Mar '18 9:12:21 AM by MrDoodleNoodle
"We are contented... because he says we are."Ok. So is it OK to give Malcolm Xerox to Erik Stevens. He is a black militant who wants to bring power back to his brothers and sisters. But he is seen as a hypocrite whose extreme measures are just an excuse to exact revenge.
@nightelf The Crocodile pothole in Starlight’s profile is broken.
Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.Please at least wait with that. Some of us haven't had the chance to see Black Panther yet and this same group do not want to be bombarded with spoilers.
It's been more than a month since the movie came out so it's alright. Plus, i suppose the trope is more in line with Comic Book counterpart.
Uni catWelp, Jotaro and Kenshiro butted heads. It went as expected.
More on the Luteces.
Robert Lutece and Rosalind Lutece, Divine Duo Of Finishing Each Other's Sentences (Robert: A Gentleman, Male Lutece; Rosalind: A Lady, Female Lutece)
- Potential Houses:
- Theme Song: Lutece from Bioshock Infinite
- Overdeities
- Symbol: The Lutece Device
- Alignment: Chaotic Good
- Portfolios:
- Both: Alternate Selves, The Atoners Who Mostly Are Of Little Help, Beware the Silly Ones, Cloudcuckoolanders, Deadpan Snarkers, For Science!, Killed In A Supposedly Freak Lab Accident, Friendly Fire Proof, Mad Scientists, Selfcest Subtext
- Robert: Born Lucky, Morality Pet, Screw Destiny
- Rosalind: The Fatalist, Never My Fault, Living Forever Is Awesome
- Domains: Alternative Realities, Victorian-Era England, Quantum Physics
- Allies:
- Bioshock Deities: Booker DeWitt and Elizabeth Comstock, Jack
- Other Allies: Reed Richards of the Richards Family, Tony Stark/Iron Man
- Rivals: TBD
- Enemies: Booker DeWitt (as Zachary Comstock - long story), Funny Valentine
- In General:
- The Pantheon holds an outdoor festival in which the deities can mingle and enjoy themselves. However, reports come in regarding a strange duo in Victorian-era clothing. The gods thought it was Bruce Wayne and his fiancée dressing up. But that notion was shot down as Bruce and Selina were seen with Clark and Lois Kent. After overhearing the description of the duo, Booker DeWitt and his daughter both confirmed that the duo in question are Rosalind and Robert Lutece.
- Not even the Main House knows how the Luteces managed to ascend to the Pantheon without them knowing. The pair explained that they opened a Tear and stepped through, thinking that it would bring them to Columbia. Instead, they found a less-than-amused Booker and Elizabeth, who told them where they were. So they decided to stay. The Main House allowed this, provided that they try to keep their antics down to a minimum.
edited 21st Mar '18 11:42:06 AM by RokuAlhazared
The One Who Crosses The Sky In Flamesfor Starlight and Eddie. They look good to me, at least.
Eldrake@ It's me. By the time I work on him, Ant-Man and the Wasp would be out on Blu-ray.
edited 21st Mar '18 12:10:16 PM by WhirlRX
First draft of Manfred. What should I add?
Manfred, God of Becoming More Idealistic Over Time (Manny, Jumbo, Bro-Dad, Jungle Jim, Tubby)
- House: Outlooks on Life (House of Philosophy)
- Lesser God
- Symbol: His tusks
- Theme Song: Checking Out The Cave
- Alignment: Neutral Good (formerly True Neutral)
- Portfolio: Sugar-and-Ice Personality, Tragic Hero, Leader Of The Heard, Grumpy Bear, Took a Level in Idealism And Kindness, Honorable Mammoth, Jerk with a Heart of Gold, The Big Guy, Lost His Wife And First Child, Straight Man, Deadpan Snarker
- Domains: Mammoths, Tragedy, Family, Cynicism and Idealism
- Allies: The Heroic Protectors Of Family, Toriel, Lilo and Stitch, Felonius Gru, Madame Vastra, Babar, Ganesha, Lapras, Ventuswill, King Triton, Piccolo, Bryan Mills, Marlin
- Enemies: The Child Abuse Supporters, Gaston, Hunter J, Gwangi, Sharp Tooth, Bruce, Bryan Fury, Penelope Mouse, Felix(Red vs Blue), Relius Clover
- Opposes: Cruel and callous humans, traitors
- Pities: Leonard Snart, Ice King and those who lose their loved ones
- A woolly mammoth, Manfred (called Manny by most) was a grumpy loner who dismissed others. He ended up protecting Sid the Sloth from two rhinos when they planned to kill him for fun instead food, and ended up having to look after a human baby. Along with Diego, Manny slowly learned the value of companionship and friendship once more, becoming less cynical and more open to others. Now he serves as a leader his new friends and family, or as he puts it his horde.
- The reason he was so cynical in the first place? A group of humans were on the hunt for mammoths, and ended up killing his wife and child despite his best attempts to defend them. He would later find someone he loved and bore a daughter, Peaches. For this reason he is very protective of his family, sometimes a bit too overprotective. Marlin is very sympathetic because he lost his wife and most his children in a barracuda attack, causing him to be overprotective. Triton is a father with similar experiences, though he didn't lose his offspring as well.
- With what he's experienced, he is close to the House of Family. Those who abuse their family like Relius Clover should expect ZERO mercy from him. He gets along with Piccolo and Felonius Gru as they were gruff loners who ended up softening up with a family of their own, and Toriel sympathizes with him since she also lost her child. He's noticed similarities between his idea of a herd and Lilo and Stitch's ohana. Also while they are somewhat villainous, he pities Leonard Snart and Ice King for the loved ones they lost.
- His family was killed by humans, though he doesn't hate them anymore. He briefly got mad at how mankind contributed to mammoth extinction thousands of years after his time, but got over it. It's a bad idea to be a hunter of rare creatures like Hunter J around him, mind you. Gaston thought that Manny would be an excellent hunt due to how rare mammoths are, which Manny was having nothing of.
- Do not betray him and his trust. Just don't. He has a lot of contempt for the House of Betrayal, and Bryan Fury for betraying kindness. Especially Penelope Mouse of Felix for betraying friendship.
- Claims that he isn't fat, his fur's just poofy. He weighs 11 tons, but that's to be expected from a woolly mammoth. Eric Cartman can understand not liking being called fat, but Manny just scoffs at his jerkassery and ignores him. He'd rather not think about Bender either because of the time used frozen mammoth for sausage meat.
- Naturally prefers the cold of the House of Water And Ice. Lived around the time of the Neanderthals (the baby he looked after was one of them) and modern humans, despite species that should be extinct at the time also being around. It's not even getting into the hidden dinosaur society underground he found, or the time they tried to stop an asteroid. As far as he's concerned, the dinosaurs went extinct because they got too cocky. He once fought revived ancient sea reptiles, leading him to dislike vicious dinosaurs and other sea creatures such as Gwangi, Sharptooth, and Bruce.
- Met his wife Ellie when it seemed the Ice Age would end and massive flooding would occur, forcing them to find a giant raft to survive. Despite his weight he was able to swim to save her, though elephants are pretty good swimmers. He likes Lapras due to being an ice-related prehistoric creature who serves as a boat for others and saves them from drowning, along with suffering from human hands like mammoths did. He is on good terms with Babar and Ganesha for being kind pachyderms.
- Believed that mammoths were extinct until meeting Ellie, and only later learned there was still a thriving population. Madame Vastra can sympathize as the Silurians have a habit of believing they are the last of their kind, and often coming into conflict with humans.
@Manfred: I guess Sid the sloth and Diego as his heralds.
Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
So, who do you think would be a good fit for Technically-Living Zombie?
Uni cat