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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
#118701: Jul 15th 2018 at 11:07:54 AM

@ Fasoman: If that's that the conclusion, then fine. These newcomers have the benefit of breathing new life to tropes that people just take for granted. After all, I'm the guy who gave Interpretative Character to two different Star Trek characters that live in different eras. I'm only giving suggestions. I won't tell people what they can/can't do in the Pantheon. After all, this is a place for fun.

Changing the subject, is it okay to transfer Link to the GUAG Sacred Knights and Shido Itsuka to the GUAG Combat Division? Link as an obvious reason, while Shido made the transition to fighter in Date A Live Volume 18. What kind of place would the young lover quartet Kaito, Ichika, Ichiro and Ryoko would have in the GUAG? Also, I still think RoboCop should be in the GUAG, not the GUAL.

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#118702: Jul 15th 2018 at 11:08:34 AM

I will repeat this since nobody seems to catch it.

No Place for Me There doesn't have someone. I've heard there's a trope namer but I going with another since I'm a bit more familiar with it. King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule. Maybe, or there's something that would fit him.

Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jul 15th 2018 at 11:08:31 AM

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#118703: Jul 15th 2018 at 11:17:03 AM

[up] I don't have much of an opinion but go ahead with it if you want,

[up][up] That's fine. Maybe your problem with those two, like me, is that they would be a generic representation for the trope and there could be better things to them but it's up to Whirl to decide what to use.

And sure, move those character if you want. I have no clue where to place the last four other than GUAG Relationship Enchancers (Pretty sure that name has a typo)

Uni cat
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#118704: Jul 15th 2018 at 11:22:38 AM

[up] Unless "Enchancers" is a Portmanteau of "enhancers" and "enchanters", then yeah, there's a typo.

Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢
matteste Since: Jul, 2010
#118705: Jul 15th 2018 at 12:26:46 PM

Added the Captain to Merc's enemies. Simply settled on putting a general terms for universe destroyers since they are so dime a dozen.

Still hope I will be able to find a trope for Hajun and Ren Fujii / Tenma Yato eventually that works.

Tenma Yato especially I feel would work in the Wardening house given that he froze time for 8000+ years with nothing but shear tenacity to keep Hajun from seizing the Throne.

Edited by matteste on Jul 15th 2018 at 9:31:17 PM

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#118706: Jul 15th 2018 at 12:37:20 PM

All right. Slughorn and Kuvira are ready to go.

I've been checking Touhou A Live, and I thought…can its scenarios be plausible in Touhou canon?

I'm starting rework on Dream of the Endless. I could use some feedback on interactions with him from other profiles. Dream is an old profile after all. I also have the rework for the Kanto Starters there.

Reworking Cana and Gildartz here.

Slughorn and the Freedom Wars Sinner can be found in the previous page.

Feedback Mode

"Ah, one more for the game. Come, sit. You've passed the gates of the House of Gaming and the sub-house of Gaming Genres. And you come to my temple to play the Game of Life and Death. Well, not that death means much in the Trope Pantheons. Regardless, your stake is wagered. I refuse none who come here. Yet, I say, "Turn back"'."

The Dealer, God of Deckbuilding Games

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/d9f248b7_23ca_408c_b7d8_624a42798482.jpg
  • Greater God (briefly demoted to Intermediate God levels after his first defeat)
  • Symbol: His deck, or a throng of cards floating around himself
  • Theme Song: Welcome To The Game or Hand of Fate
  • Alignment: True Neutral
  • Portfolio: Ambiguously Human, Big Bad In The First Game And Big Good In The Sequel, Game Master, Ambiguous Fourth Wall Breaking, Takes His Game of Life And Death Seriously, The Snark Knight, Time Abyss, Smug Snake, Nicer In The Sequel, Video Games and Fate, Graceful Loser, You Kill It, You Bought It (Maybe), Stealth Mentor, Sixth Ranger for the Second Player
  • Domain(s): Life and Death, Cards, Decks, Fate
  • Herald: The second Player (possible successor)
  • Followers: Dominion monarchs, the Reigns king, the realms of Vigil, Cerberus Engine Games
  • Allies:
  • Rivals:
  • Enemies: All purgers of magic, Amon,
  • Respected by: Yahtzee
  • When it comes to deckbuilding games, there are certainly better examples than Hand of Fate. Alas, one of the other prerequisites to earn a spot in the Pantheon is distinct character, and the search for a deity to represent the genre led to the Court nominating the Dealer after the end of the second game whether he managed to reinstate himself, or if he allowed the second Player to take the mantle. Intrigued with what the Pantheon has to offer, the Dealer accepted the invitation.
  • The Dealer is a mysterious individual. He hosts the Game of Life and Death in his temple, where adventurers who face him must re-live encounters from their past, and fight the deadliest monsters in his service, though they're usually comprised of bandits, skeletons, giant rats, and lizard folk (though that's only in his first game). The deck-building part comes from the equipment and encounter cards (and in the sequel, a companion and starting supplies) one may put in their deck before each game, all earned after earning tokens from the Dealer for meeting certain conditions. It's a pretty long game to play, though the reward (since wagering his position is not advisable or even possible here, he's had to create one such system) can be worth it.
    • In account of how the Pantheon works, though, he had to revise his game (though not a complete overhaul, thankfully), balance the "mechanics", and has allowed for three variants.
      • First is the "vanilla" variant that his first Player Kallas played against him, complete with Wildcard "DLC" where one can choose different adventurers with varying pros and cons.
      • Second is the "vanilla" variant that his second Player played with different mechanics and rules. Several complaints on the "The Lovers" Escort Mission however forced him to "Nerf" the difficulty, making it a little more manageable. He's also had to balance the game some more after complaints of most of the stages (especially the dice) being all but Luck Based Missions with skill being a non-factor, as well as a better "search system" for his encounter cards.
      • The third variant is based on the current player's own life and has appropriated encounter and equipment (and companion) cards, though the richness of their adventure/life story determines the difficulty, play length, and final reward (e.g. someone like Geralt or Shepard would have more to experience than someone like Red or Oboromaru), and it can mainly be a version of either of the first two variants. As his game has a lot of combat, he turns down pacifists from playing this variant, which he otherwise recommends the most to everybody who visits.
      • Additionally, he's been offered means to "save" whatever progress his (now many) players have made, so that there'll be little hassle for changing up between players' progress. Also, since there's only one of him and he's shown no ability to multiply himself, only one player can play at a time.
  • Given his world fell under a threat to outlaw all magic (though they turned a blind eye for one day of the year) and purge magical species by the first Player Kallas (except hired necromancers), the Dealer loathes those who go to such extents.
    • The purge Kallas mandated had also driven the ratmen to near-extinction, while the lizardmen were completely wiped out, though dwarves and gnomes were spared from persecution for some reason, mainly because the former were simply too boring and the reasons regarding the latter are unknown.
  • The dealer isn't a very social person, and prefers traveling alone, but he will go with others if he has to.
    • When he does travel long distances sometimes (if it's not within walking distance), it's usually in a caravan big enough for a player to play his game with him. It's also warded with spells that prevent it from drawing attention from raiders.
  • In regards to the Dealer's power outside the table, assuming what Kallas has performed as the holder of the Game of Life and Death can be done by him too, he can summon a squadron of Mooks from the Monster cards he's crafted thus far (Dust [bandits], Skulls [skeletons], Plague [ratmen], Scales [lizardmen], Steel [imperials], Frost [northern barbarians], another Plague [Corrupted], and Greed [thieves]), he can also launch an orb of light for damage, conjure a barrier of magic, create searing lines on any surface, and set off small magical explosions anywhere within his vision. There can potentially be more.
  • Having experienced the Corrupted, and having been afflicted with it for a time, he has particular disdain for zombie plagues, especially if they're from the land rather than a mere virus with a Patient Zero.
  • For some reason, there are those who compare the Dealer to the Merchant in appearance and attitude. The Dealer for his part doesn't see how that is so.
  • Despite its many flaws, Yahtzee likes the Dealer's game, at least the second variant. The Dealer doesn't like being called an "ugly nun" though.
  • Has respect for few rules (aside from those that make his game), and among them is to treat with respect those who feed you.
  • Has contempt for nobles who expect heroes to rescue them when overwhelmed.
  • Has little love for assassins (and less for "criminal guilds"note ), even the Brotherhood led by Ezio Auditore. That said, he admits they're useful in what they do.
  • Cas contempt for fortunetellers, especially after he's needed to pose as one before to earn some coin.
  • Has met spirits, gods, and even his world's death, and has no respect for any of them. He still doesn't now., and himself being a god now doesn't help either.

Evaluation Mode

First draft. Is it okay to do him? It's not like he's a major player with lots of pending Character Development like Rey, Finn, Poe, Khlo, etc., right?

Armitage Hux, God of Unimpressive Longcoats (General Hux)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hux_sw.jpg
  • House: Capes and Coats (House of Costumes)
  • Lesser God
  • Symbol: A badge with the symbol of the First Order
  • Alignment: Lawful Evil
  • Portfolio: The Strategist, Evil Genius, No-Respect Guy, Illegitimate Son Of An Imperial Enforcer, Not-So-Badass Longcoat, Good-Looking Privates, Evil Gloating, Seen As A Joke By The First Order, Passionate About The First Order's "Justice", Evil Redhead, Armchair Military, Contrasting Sequel Antagonist To Tarkin, Ordered The Death Of His Abusive Father, Large Ham, Ignored Expert
  • Domains: Tyranny, Nepotism, Generals, Invasion, Destruction
  • Allies: The Galactic Empire, particularly Wilhuff Tarkin (somewhat) and the 501st
  • Enemies: The Rebellion, particularly Luke Skywalker, the House of Betrayal, Mogo, [[ Jon Snow]], all good-aligned deities from the House of Light And Darkness (especially Sora and his allies)
  • Choosing someone from the "sequel" time period was difficult as their story not yet being concluded proved difficult due to the Court barring such efforts to ascend deities from there, but Palpatine found a candidate who would be "safe", and got to work on ascending First Order General Armitage Hux to the Pantheon.
    • As for the trope for him to represent to gain footing here? Not-So-Badass Longcoat Usually, having a longcoat is a symbol of badassery. Sometimes though, some folks just can't pull it off, and Hux is one of them.
    • As for why Palpatine chose him? Well, remember the supercomputer that can track ships through hyperspace, and Starkiller Base? Well, developments of those projects—and probably most of the First Order's advanced weapon systems—are from Hux. He's also in charge of their training programs and developing their tactical and strategic doctrine.
      • As soon as news of that bit about Starkiller Base spread, due to having to clean up so damn many Summon Gems, all the non-evil-aligned deities of the House of Light and Darkness, as well as Sora's allies, have it personal against him.
  • Given his accomplishments, the GUAE have a little more respect for him (especially due to his accomplishment in Starkiller Base). That said, he still gets regarded as a joke by his enemies and the three trolling groups have too much fun riling him up.
  • With Kylo Ren not present in the Pantheon (yet), Hux has his sights on overthrowing Palpatine, but he knows too well that to present such thoughts would be a terrible idea. Sure, he can't Force-slap him from parsecs away like Snoke, but he did start the Galactic Empire, which was where the First Order came from.
    • He also doesn't like Darth Vader, given hos influential he was in Kylo's development despite it being posthumous. Also, his defection to the GUAG makes him as bad as those in the Rebellion.
  • One of his biggest Berserk Buttons is any Your Mom joke, given that he was born out of wedlock.
  • Despite having been thrown around enough times by Snoke and Kylo to knock any doubt that supernatural forces exist, Hux views it as a relic of a bygone era that cannot compete with with the capabilities of modern weapons tech. This has him at blows with the other evil mages in the GUAE.
  • Is very well aware about the dangers of lightspeed travel, given Resistance commander Holdo jumped the Raddus to lightspeed in his super-dreadnought's general position.

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#118707: Jul 15th 2018 at 2:43:45 PM

[up]I thought we were holding off aNY new star wars characters?

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#118708: Jul 15th 2018 at 2:58:03 PM

[up] I don’t know why your capitalization is in the wrong letters.

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#118709: Jul 15th 2018 at 2:58:51 PM

While i think about some potention flavour texts for the Mars people, i am retaking Gary again.

Any other bully i might have missed?

Gary Smith, God of Villainy Behind the Scenes (Gary Jack Smith)

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  • Potential House: Evil Actions
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: His uniform.
  • Theme Song: Final Showdown
  • Alignment: Neutral Evil
  • Portfolio: Bad Samaritan, Big Bad, Deadpan Snarker, Devil in Plain Sight, Dirty Coward, Evil Is Hammy, False Friend, Jerk with a Heart of Jerk, Non-Action Big Bad, Smug Snake, The Sociopath
  • Domains: Students, School, Manipulation, Sociopathy, Insanity
  • "Allies": Eliza and Neil Reagan, Biff Tannen, Libby Chessler,
  • Enemies: Jimmy Hopkins, Hinagiku Katsura, Ferris Bueller, Zack Morris
  • Gary at first seemed like a particular quirky loner, smart but not well regarded by other students and that's why Jimmy Hopkins befriended him on the first day. Turns out Gary was nothing but trouble when he double crossed Jimmy to fight the biggest student in the school and then plotted to take over the school. Ultimately he failed and in a final confrontation with Jimmy he was beaten and later expelled. Gary Smith is notable for being an actual sociopath in a school were most students are already problematic.
  • His ascension, of course, was him doing another of his manipulative schemes by tricking a poor student in the House of School into giving up their temple and so he took it for himself. Gary seemed awfully familiar with the pantheon and so tried to enter by any means, but not long after stealing a temple he stumbled upon his good old friend Jimmy, who proceed to question what was he doing here and after a series of insults directed at Jimmy, Gary was forced to run away after realizing that Jimmy wasn't the only Bully Hunter around. He did manage to stay after convincing some deities in the House of Villains to arrange a place for him, though most members of the House don't think too highly of him.
  • Gary can be often seen around the House of School, usually up to no good and taking advantage of other unsuspecting students. In the past he used to show up frequently until Jimmy caught up to him and promptly kicked him out but Gary used his wits and bribed the pantheon authorities into letting him in. He also gained some help from Biff Tannen and the Reagan twins after he convinved them that they could make a partnership and make the life of those who they hate insufferable. Of course, this is Gary Smith we are talking about, he is likely to doublecross them as he did with Jimmy in the past.

Uni cat
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#118710: Jul 15th 2018 at 3:04:02 PM

[up][up]Cell phone.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#118711: Jul 15th 2018 at 4:27:11 PM

Reminder that these ideas have been suggested before but forgotten. Any of them anyone want?

AerialQueen Since: Nov, 2017
#118712: Jul 15th 2018 at 4:57:37 PM

Not getting them, but I'm okay with Jinpachi, the Kobayashi Household and Malamar.

Meanwhile, Pants-Free for Ashe seems unnecessary, given that she already has Purely Aesthetic Gender alongside Vent.

Edit: It's Aile, not Ashe. Sorry for the error tongue

Edited by AerialQueen on Jul 15th 2018 at 10:01:21 AM

Strike Laser Claw!!
TrueChaos Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#118713: Jul 15th 2018 at 5:35:18 PM

Say... is Shadow Dictator taken? If so, would Imu-sama from One Piece qualify for it?

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#118714: Jul 15th 2018 at 5:51:40 PM

[up]I think Tetsuo has it.

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AerialQueen Since: Nov, 2017
#118715: Jul 15th 2018 at 5:52:07 PM

[up][up] Yup, It's taken by Tetsuo.

Edited by AerialQueen on Jul 15th 2018 at 10:54:50 AM

Strike Laser Claw!!
DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#118716: Jul 15th 2018 at 6:33:49 PM

Nightelf: I think that we can reserve (i.e. Lock) the Not-So-Badass Longcoat for General Hugs, (and, yes, Poe did call him that on a comm call in TLJ,) but it would be best to hold off on giving him a Divine Portfolio until Episode 9 comes out on DVD. After all, he may yet develop some battle skills if he takes it off.

Master Hero: Link's actually already in the Sacred Knights, so I think we can go ahead and remove his "Combat Division" entry. Likewise with several Support and Medical Division entries for personel in the Engineering Division.

I'll consider your endorsement of Shido Itsuka to be a [tup] and strongly encourage you to prepare Alliance Portfolio for Shido's companions.

Anyway, I've finally sliced my way through the ZCEs in the Support Staff, while also looking at Combat Division. (No ZCEs there, but I am going to transfer Red XIII to the Animal Advocates, since he and Steve Irwin would be the founding members.)

  • Arthur Fonzarelli, God of Coolness and Breakout Characters (The Fonz, Fonzie) - Is a member of the Azure Falcons and is The Shredder's rival in that house, so if he's in the GUAE and/or if the other 2 Falcons are in the GUAG,note  then his membership should be confirmed. Granted, the GUAG is the only Alliance that should have him anyway. Should be relocated to Psychological Warfare. UPDATE: Can't find The Shredder, but fellow Crimson Wolf, Eliphas the Inheritor, is part of the West Coast detail of GUAE Trollkaiger.
  • Edmond Dantes, God of Revenge and Forgiveness (The Count Of Monte Cristo, King of the Cavern, Edmond Dantès, Avenger) - Member of the Trinity of Revenge. Motion to Transfer to Unaffiliated Warriors based on this entry in his Divine Portfolio (emphasis mine):
The five main alliances have all agreed not to interfere with his temple. They are well aware that all are dependent of his blessings to enact revenge on their fellow rivals. The GUAG is least comfortable with that stance, but even they recognize his importance.
  • Lain Iwakura, Ruler of the Internet (Lady of the Wired) - Nothing in her Wizard Triad portfolio about "good", "evil",note  "law", or "chaos", she doesn't seem to be destroying anything, and she's more on the internet side of tech than the robotics side, so she should be an Unaffiliated Warrior. Then again, she is friends with The Laughing Man in-profile, so she could still go to the White Hats with him.
  • Mohinder Suresh, God of Vaguely Philosophical Narration - Well, he did conduct a Heroic Sacrifice. Then again, the question becomes "where to put someone whose claim to fame is Contemplating Our Navels?" Looking through his actual profile, perhaps the Medical Division (he is a geneticist) or in the Ministry of Atonement.
  • Noah Bennet, God of Spectacles, (HRG, Mr. Butler, The Man With Horn Rimmed Glasses) - GUAG Superhero Division is filed in his profile under Teeth-Clenched Teamwork. He has made an (in-story) Heel–Face Turn, and performed a Heroic Sacrifice, however. Ironically, since his original role was as an enforcer of a Super Registration Act, he could join the Cowboy Cop Division as a "Special Agent".note  Alternatively, he could defect to the GUAL Magistrate Judges.note 
  • Aoi Sakuraba, Goddess of Devotion (Aoi-chan) - Series does not have a Pantheon Page and is not in the Database. Presume "No Profile" and Zap.
  • Dr. Caligari, Divine Representative of German Expressionism and Madness Montage - Film does not have a Pantheron Page and is not in the Database. Presume "No Profile" and Zap.
  • Shuichi Shindou and Eiri Yuki, Gods of Yaoi- Series does not have a Pantheon Page and is not in the Database. Presume "No Profile" and Zap.
  • Yuta and Mana, God and Goddess of Immortals - Series does not have a Pantheon Page and is not in the Database. Presume "No Profile" and Zap.

Again, I hold that Defections between Alliances are a major enough event to require at least a Restructure; intra-Allaince Transfers (between Divisions) not so much.

So, to sumarize most of my prior posts:

  • Remove from GUAG due to not having a Portfolio in the Pantheon Proper: Aoi Sakuraba, Dr. Caligari, Shuichi Shindou and Eiri Yuki, Yuta and Mana
  • Divisional Transfers from Support Staff:
    • To Combat Division: Esmerelda Weatherwax, Marisa Kirisame (unless defects to GUAC), Shido Itsuka (1 [tup]note ), Reimu Hakureinote , Shirou Emiya
    • To Intelligence Division: Navinote , The Question
    • To Medical Division: Nurse Joynote 
    • To the Ministry of Attonement: Yurika Kirishima
    • To Psychological Warfare: Arthur Fonzarelli, BRIAN BLESSED, Elan, Haruhi Suzumiya, Jerrica Benton, Kotomi Ichinose, Michael Bay, The Genienote , The MST3K Crew
    • To White Hats: Lain Iwakuranote  The Laughing Man
  • Defections from the GUAG
    • From Combat
      • To GUAL Byakuya Kuchiki, Shana, Uryu Ishida
      • To GUAC or Unaffiliated Warriors: Godzilla
    • From the GUAG Support Staff
      • To GUAM: Bendernote 
      • To GUAL: Inspector Javert,note  Noah Bennet (GUAL Magistrate Judges)note 
      • To Unaffiliated Warriors: Rorschach, Carmen Sandiego, Kino, Edmond Dantes, Lain Iwakuranote 
    • From Token Evil Teammates:
    • To GUAD: Ungoliantnote 
    • To GUAM: HK-47note 
  • Profiles to Improve but either stay in Support Staff or joins a New Division: Mohinder Suresh, Noah Bennet

Again, I'll repost on the new Divisions of the GUAG once this bit has been on the shelf for a while.

Finally, while I was looking through the Ministry of Atonement to see if Mohinder could fit there, I found a few entries that had no flavor text at all. The War Has Just Begun.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#118717: Jul 15th 2018 at 6:36:09 PM

Question: Does anybody want to adopt my idea of the Church of the Broken God and Sarkicism for Flesh Versus Steel?

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Jul 16th 2018 at 1:37:49 AM

OldLadyNightMan Since: May, 2018 Relationship Status: Hiding
#118718: Jul 15th 2018 at 6:47:59 PM

Finally, I'm almost finished with Jake and Amy. Is their anything else that I should add?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/22_51.jpg
Left: Amy, Right: Jake

Edited by OldLadyNightMan on Jul 15th 2018 at 10:45:21 AM

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#118719: Jul 15th 2018 at 7:44:58 PM

@Donald: Thanks for acknowledging the potential requirement for Unaffiliated Warriors (which can include civilians, as long as they can potientially contribute in the overall wars)

@Whirl: All right, I'll hold off on Hux.

What're your opinions on these (approved) titles (just in case someone has a second opinion)?

By Ferot_Dreadnaught:

Edited by nightelf37 on Jul 15th 2018 at 10:58:46 PM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#118720: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:38:57 PM

[up][up] They look alright to me [tup]

Thinking about it, Naming should be it's own house. Being in Narrative was more of a convenient place to have a few deities in a house for names but that got a lot bigger.

Do you mind if i create a House for Naming?

Uni cat
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#118721: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:42:00 PM

I still don't get the point of Unaffiliated Warriors.

@Ashe: I don't think Pants-Free is a good trope for her since you can always see she's not wearing pants.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
#118722: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:45:20 PM

@ Donald: I've already deleted Link's profile in the GUAG Combat Division. The reason for Shido's transfer could be this: "Originally, Shido was content serving with the Support Staff, either by cooking meals or offering words of encouragement. As his powers developed, however, Shido felt he could do more for the GUAG, so he requested to become an active fighter. His transfer to the Combat Division proceeded without much trouble." The Spirits could join the GUAG Magical Girl Sisterhood, as they fulfill the Magical Girl Warrior archetype to varying degrees. Maybe Fi could join the Intelligence Division alongside Navi, while Zelda would join the Command group. Also, the young lover quartet have joined the Relationship Enchancers.

@ Fasoman: Gary would be enemies with Flash Thompson, who outgrew his bullying habits, Yugi Muto and Yami Yugi, who confronted bullies in the beginning of their series, and Ichiro Sato and Ryoko Sato, whose movie explores the emotional impact bullying can have on victims and bystanders.

Edited by MasterHero on Jul 15th 2018 at 8:46:01 AM

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#118723: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:53:04 PM

Amy and Jake@ I hate I'm drawing blanks on things to add for them. [tup] Either way.

Faso@ I guess naming can be a thing. So many house in such a short time. It's hard to keep up.

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No. 1 Entourage Fanboy
#118724: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:58:35 PM

@Faso: Gary Smith would manipulate Masato Kusaka/Kamen Rider Kaixa into becoming his ally by appealing to his desire to exterminate all monsters regardless of alignment, and Kusaka blindly accepts. Jin Kisaragi would surprisingly opposes him since Gary is arguably more worse than Jin in terms of sociopathic tendencies, while Gary thinks Jin has gotten more softer due to Ragna and Tsubaki's interventions as well as feeling that they would have been perfect partners. There is also the sub-house of Tainted Friendship if you want more interactions for Gary. EDIT: Yeah, go ahead with the House of Naming.

@Old Lady Night Man: Can't think of anything sadly, so [tup].

@Nightelf: Dai Li's title is fine, but Raava and Vaatu should be called Divine Forces of Dueling Absolutes and The Equestria Girls should be called Goddesses of Fun-Filled High School Settings.

Anyone here ever watched Edgar Wright movies? If so, I have some suggestions:

  • Trying again with The Network, God of Evil New Media and Providing Humans Their Technology. Reasoning: The only personification of evil media in any fictional work (side note: I have not watched Black Mirror, but I'm pretty sure there are no known divine forces that also embodies this trope there). His second trope is that he is revealed to have influenced human technology for years without anyone knowing, mostly in the form of telecommunications.
  • Gary King, Divine Protector of Humanity's Flaws. Reasoning: Throughout the movie, his friends thinks he is a hindrance just because Gary wanted to finish the pub crawl. Then we learn later that he too have problems just like Andy with his divorce: Gary tried to kill himself during his time in rehab, which shows that even he is not perfect. He also gave awesome refutations against The Network, proclaiming that Humans Are Special BECAUSE they are flawed.
  • A troper by the name of Iceman 7896 proposes that Martin Riggs and Roger Murtaugh ascend as Gods of Buddy Cops but Nicholas Angel and Danny Butterman are also considered for the title. Which duo fits better?

[down] Ah, noted.

Edited by Muundeis on Jul 16th 2018 at 12:05:41 AM

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#118725: Jul 15th 2018 at 9:03:51 PM

[up]I go with Riggs and Murtaugh.


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