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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Necromancer10 Buddy from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Buddy
#196676: Mar 24th 2023 at 1:49:34 PM

Alliances Rework Announcement

Reporting progress on the Alliance reworks...

Every reworked GUA page, description included, is fully complete, including an Alliance index page with guidelines on making Alliance entries for the new Alliances. (Check forum signature for the sandboxes of said reworks) You may notice some fulfill similar functions to older GUA divisions (the GUAE Twisted Tormentors are pretty much a redux of GUAE Trollkaiger for one), before you go and add entries for these pages while the remainder of the rework pages are done, do make sure the re-added characters are still in the Pantheon and still meet the standards detailed on the Alliance index page.

As for what's left, there's...

  • Doing smaller description pages for the two current Uprisings (should be done within 1-2 days)
  • The Pantheonic Coalitions page for miscellaneous groups that don't fit in Alliances nor Uprisings (It's mainly just Organizations with merging of Groups and other genre-based groups, which will also serve as an index for large groups still fit new standards but warrant their own page. The latter page still has plenty of franchise/series-based groups that are going to be deleted, though.)
  • Some changes to the Main House page, and clean-up for all factions that don't fit into Alliances, Uprisings, or Coalitions.

After this comes the clean-up phase (once everything above is done) where the reworked Alliance pages and all will overwrite the old Alliance pages and similar stuff, but the old content that isn't overwritten will stay for 2-3 weeks for whoever feels like archiving it. After said period, they'll be deleted for good.

Speaking of clean-up, here's what I'll have to say about the factions outside the Alliances/Uprisings/Coalitions categories, since they can't really stay as separate factions for long for scope purposes.

Necromancer's Judgements on Outside Factions

  • Harbingers of Repression: It's effectively rewritten as an GUAE subdivision without the whole "Darkseid vs. Melkor" part, since the new leadership nulls that out. It now serves to denote deities that focus on oppressive dystopias/regimes within the Pantheon, without the character-centered drama from the old group.
  • Divine Order of Absolute Justice: I don't know "religion/deity extremist group" will translate post-Rework, but whether Zamasu stays a leader or not, it would be better off reworked into a group that focuses less on Zamasu in concept, whether as some Uprising or Pantheon Coalition.
  • Order of Humanity: Same situation as above, if it weren't for the fact the faction puts too much influence tied to the God Emperor of Mankind and his Imperium (nevermind that some have argued that it misrepresents the Imperium itself in the Pantheon) then it could be remade as a general humanity-based group as a Pantheonic Coalition, or maybe we could go with that House of Humanity idea later on. But as it is now, it will also have to go.
  • Hounds of War: Later on this could expanded into a War-related Uprising tbh (Warmongers who want to continue the fighting for fun, those who do it because they think it's better for everyone than peace, and war-involved people who may have their own agenda), just not an outside faction anymore.
  • Pantheonic Soldiers of Fortune: Given that mercenary work is less relevant to the Alliances and in general, it will be moved to the Pantheonic Coalitions category (though modified to remove characters no longer in the Pantheon).

Edited by Necromancer10 on Mar 24th 2023 at 4:52:07 AM

Beep-beep
SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#196677: Mar 24th 2023 at 1:55:16 PM

Given GUAL is being rewritten to also be rid of YHVH, Divine Order can be made into 2 factions Galeem/Dharkon style. One being lead by Zamasu and the other by YHVH. Zamasu, naturally, wants to be rid of the other half.

I severely doubt YHVH would go away quietly even after being ejected from GUAL.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Mar 24th 2023 at 1:58:13 AM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
CardboardBot from Saudi Arabia (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#196678: Mar 24th 2023 at 2:01:41 PM

I want to know how exactly to add entries. Do we just throw them in, or have to suggest them and see if anyone sees anything wrong with it?

Mostly because I want to fit in the Alternates in the GUAE and some other deities in other alliances too, just sorting the Pantheon.

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#196679: Mar 24th 2023 at 2:03:29 PM

[up] I don't think there was any "approval" process to adding deities to GUA's. You just plop them down in a page. I'm not sure if there will be a change in that regard either.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
aa1205 Just A Guy from Somewhere in this world.... Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Just A Guy
#196680: Mar 24th 2023 at 2:28:43 PM

First off, a rework proposal I'd like to put towards adoption:

John Earl Madden - American Football

  • Reason:Profile is of incredibly poor quality and doesn't even describe who John Madden was in life, or why he was so important to the sport. He played Football back in High School and was even drafted for the Philadelphia Eagles, but saw his career cut short due to a broken collar bone. From there, he became a coach, first for college level, then the Oakland Raiders, seeing them to their first Super Bowl Victory during this time. After his time as a coach, he became a color commentator for various networks, building a positive reputation for his remarks, one-liners, and love for the sport, as well as popularizing the "Telestrator", a device that allows for one to write diagrams on the footage directly. He is also popular for using his likeness for EA's longstanding John Madden Football series, which the 2023 version was dedicated to following his death in late 2021.

Next, an update on Doc Hudson. Still looking for any hot-headed athletes/racers, fellow elderly legends, characters who died with their actors, etc.

In Progress Mode

Doc Hudson, God of Characters That Died With Their Actor (The Fabulous Hudson Hornet)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Doc_Hudson_3_5742.png

That is all for now...
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#196681: Mar 24th 2023 at 2:45:30 PM

In preparation for reading through Fallout: Equestria for Littlpip's profile, I decided to go through SSLPs of the Fallout franchise over on LP Archive/the Something Awful forums. I've finished 1 and New Vegas, and now that I'm looking through 2, I realize I have a nomination.

  • The Chosen One of Arroyo, Deity of Overly Generous Time Limits
    • Reasoning: Most time limit examples in the page are for specific events in their games, and barely any of them define an entire character. Fallout 2 has one that persists the entire game. Your time limit is 13 in-game years (more due to hard-coded game limits than for any narrative reason, which is to find a Garden of Eden Creation Kit to save the village of Arroyo), but casual play can finish it at 4.

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database
snafuthegreat Since: Sep, 2011
#196682: Mar 24th 2023 at 3:02:59 PM

@r-lock: The reason I want the Black Vortex back into the Pantheon is simple. I want something that the GUAE and the other villains to fight over. Also, Marvel-related Treasures are kinds scarce in the Pantheon. I'm kinda shocked to see that the Infinity Stones are not present. You have The Anti-Life Equation, the Hourglass and Crown. The Black Vortex has long since been a relic of interest to me.

[down], [down]x2 Now that, I honestly didn't know. I thought that the regular Pantheon needed to be nominated.

Edited by snafuthegreat on Mar 24th 2023 at 3:15:52 AM

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#196683: Mar 24th 2023 at 3:06:14 PM

[up] If you want to add something to the Treasury, you should propose it just like for Deities and Domains. Did you propose the Dark Vortex before and get it approved?

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
Necromancer10 Buddy from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Buddy
#196684: Mar 24th 2023 at 3:12:09 PM

@Sailor: I'm up for the prospect of a "True Divinity" supremacy group, though whether it could develop into an Uprising or just a Pantheonic Coalition I'm on the fence about.

@Cardboard: For the purpose of making sure Alliance developments don't take up forum discussion too often, it's definitely going to be a "Just put it in and other people will evaluate if their presence in the Alliance fits within the guidelines later on" thing, so there isn't going to be an approval process for Alliance or Uprising content, instead we'll just expect people to follow the given standards stated on the index pages (and to ensure that entries that don't fit said standards are cut out). I'm going to edit the Alliance index page to reflect that, other questions regarding the reworks are appreciated

[up][up] As Excessive noted, though a trope isn't necessarily needed for an artifact, you still need to suggest it like a nomination like everything else.

Beep-beep
neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. Since: Nov, 2010
Mr
#196685: Mar 24th 2023 at 3:30:42 PM

I mentioned about Vitalstatistix flavour text. One of which is the fact that his only fear is that the sky may fall on his head. So I am wondering if there is a deity that controls the sky, not clouds, not winds, not weather but the literal sky that could be Vitalstatistix's enemy.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#196686: Mar 24th 2023 at 4:21:14 PM

@aa1205: I don't really see why John Earl Madden would be relevant in a Pantheon that's primarily about celebrating fiction, especially considering his career had more to do with coaching and commentating than playing, which in my eyes makes him a poor fit. If anything I think Sena from Eyeshield 21 would be a more appropriate representation, given that's a story all about American Football and Sena is a key player.

aa1205 Just A Guy from Somewhere in this world.... Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Just A Guy
#196687: Mar 24th 2023 at 7:50:07 PM

@woolzits I understand. If you want to make the switch, feel free.

That is all for now...
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Bad Movie Binge Collector
#196688: Mar 24th 2023 at 9:10:24 PM

Christine was also known as Chris the Car. It also appeared in the Shin Megami Tensei series (specifically in II, if..., and Giten) under both of those names.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
SomeoneElse17 Since: Mar, 2011
#196689: Mar 24th 2023 at 9:15:40 PM

Regarding Divine Order: the page itself points out the fact that Zamasu being the ultimate leader of the group is mainly by name and in theory, with Hallucifer, Yuuki Terumi, and Sargeras running things alongside him in practice as the "Quartet of Perfection". So that already presents a solution to the idea of one person being too central. Still, it would make sense to introduce a rival Sect of Eternal Law with YHVH and other oppressive lawmakers who would favor subjugating all mortals as a more appropriate judgment than annihilating them.

PuzzarianIdeal Unfettered Gouyoku Mastermind from Abandoned Hell of Blood Pools (Apprentice)
Unfettered Gouyoku Mastermind
#196690: Mar 24th 2023 at 9:25:00 PM

Komeijis are at 3 [tup].

Edited by PuzzarianIdeal on Mar 24th 2023 at 9:25:13 AM

NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#196691: Mar 24th 2023 at 10:36:01 PM

In Doc's profile, the pothole to Sesame Street is formated incorrectly. Also, isn't Sonic the Hedgehog in the Pantheon? Since he's all about speed and is cocky like Lightning, Doc Hudson would probably have opinions on him.

So... I'm guessing Koish was rejected. Time to post some other pitches from my sandbox...

  • Kotora, God of Fan-Preferred Cut Content
    • In 2018, the Spaceworld 1997 demo of Pokémon Gold and Silver was leaked online, revealing (among other things) many cut Pokémon. The most popular of these was Kotora, an adorable electric tiger ball. Then in 2020, the source code of the Japanese Pokémon Blue was leaked, revealing that Kotora almost made it into the first games as well.
  • The Star Fleet, Holy Vessels of Single Season Shows
    • The Star Fleet are a group of seven anthropomorphic tugboats (later joined by a submarine) who live in Bigg City Harbor on the west coast of the United States. They compete with their rivals, the Zero Tugs, to secure work contracts, and they also witness a lot of explosions. TUGS was the passion project of Thomas & Friends co-creator David Mitton; sadly, due to the episodes being expensive to produce, the main funders going bankrupt, several lawsuits, and the creators failing to sell it to American investors, it only lasted for a single 13-episode season.

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#196692: Mar 24th 2023 at 10:50:24 PM

[up] [tup] for the Star Fleet

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#196693: Mar 25th 2023 at 1:03:19 AM

Rework proposal.

Arktivus Brevon, God of Cause-And-Effect Villains

Reasoning: He fits the trope as Lord Brevon’s very actions cause the rise of Sash, Carol and Milla against him. He intentionally puts the Kingdoms against each other, brainwashes inhabitants and kills inhabitants, and does much of this to steal the Kingdom Stone unnoticed. Without him, the game’s plot would not have happened in the first place. Sash, Carol and Milla would have never become heroes, etc. he needs reworked for small and semi-small texts. Some of which are one sentence long. Even the bio doesn’t go on that long.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Mar 25th 2023 at 1:06:36 AM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
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#196694: Mar 25th 2023 at 1:30:28 AM

[up]

[tup]

SomeoneElse17 Since: Mar, 2011
#196695: Mar 25th 2023 at 1:34:20 AM

Asking for advice on the following upgrades:

  • Remodeling Excellen's bullet about her and Kyosuke's recognition as an elite robot war duo to reduce reference to the GUAG
  • Looking for enemies for Excellen, preferably ones similar to Lemon Browning*  and the Einst * 
  • Expanding Selena's bullet about working with Nick Fury, moreso Fury Jr.
Excellen Browning and Selena Recital, Goddesses of Flirtation, Innuendo, and Teasing (Excellen: Ex-neesama, Miss Excell, Sexcellen Browning | Selena: Ensign Recital, Miss Selena)
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Excellen Browning
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Selena Recital
  • The cross-continuity multiverse of the Super Robot Wars boasts many kinds of interesting people, which is only to be expected considering the myriad of different worlds of Humongous Mecha riders that end up being melded into its everarching conflicts. However, while the elseworld guests are the draw at first glance, those whose origins start from the central binding reality tend to be most crucial, both to its conflicts and to the flavor of the world itself. Take for example, two striking female Real Robot pilots, known well for their excellent piloting skills and intelligence as women; yet they particularly stand out for their full-fledged reveling in the joys of using their curvaceous figures to flirt and tease at will.
    • Excellen Browning pilots the sniping-based Weissritter, which has been mutated into the Rein Weissritter. Known for being the life of the party, she is boundlessly cheerful, majorly flirty, will play the tease with absolutely anyone, and routinely messes up Japanese and Chinese proverbs. She's even been known to walk around a base wearing sexy bunny suits just for the viewing pleasure of surrounding guys. Despite all of thee things, she is completely devoted to her boyfriend, fellow pilot Kyosuke Nanbu, serving as the playful complement to Kyosuke's serious and stoic countenance.
    • Selena Recital pilots the ninja-style Assault Scouter Soleares, and now by its upgraded form AS Alegrias. She is an extremely coyly flirtatious and playful woman with a very… uh… "mobile" pair of assets who tends to speak with Gratuitous Spanish and frequently hop around between factions. She's assisted by her Robot Buddy "Elma", a little communicative support robot in charge of assisting her piloting, serving as her co-pilot.
  • Originally, the two were in the Pantheon in separate places, with Excellen holding this temple solo in the Hall of Romance while Selena served in the Hall of Female Anatomy as Goddess of Bouncing Breasts. They first met when Selena took interest in Excellen's ideas about bunny suits, as this seemed like an easier way to distract people (of either gender) with her… assets. As it goes without saying, both of these ladies rather enjoy playing The Tease, giving various gods nosebleeds, or at least Luminescent Blushes, at the sight of their pneumatic bosoms, and they bonded over this. Upon hearing that Selena's temple was to be decommissioned, Excellen actually got a bit upset, and knowing that Selena likes to toy around similar to how she does albeit for different reasons, she used that to petition the Court of the Gods to bring Selena back in exchange for sharing her temple with her. (Said temple was also moved between Halls due to a classification fix, with some figuring that teasing had more to do with provoking desire than romancing anyone.)
  • It's worth noting that these are not the only women seen within their franchise to come with large breasts and flirtatious tendencies. In fact, Excellen has met and gotten along splendidly with Kaguya Nanbu and Xiaomu, whose appearances and personalities seem to be a direct homage to her. Selena only ever met Kaguya in passing due to sharing the same Hall, and had yet to speak with Xiaomu until after sharing a temple with Excellen, but did offer her comments when Excellen told her about them.
    • When Kaguya first ascended, Excellen thought Kyosuke was cheating on her. Just joking, she just felt like meeting the girl personally. For Kyosuke's worth, he barely even responded to that accusation, returning the flattest of dismissals in response. When they actually met, the first thing Excellen did was to glomp her. She took such a liking to Kaguya that she ended up requesting to Kyosuke that she'd be the 'third daughter'. She's happy when Kyosuke rolls with it. Selena, upon being told the tale, was rather unimpressed that Excellen went with the cheating joke first, considering that Kaguya sharing Kyosuke’s name would much more likely hint at familial relation than a dalliance. This did cause Excellen to reflect on why Kyosuke no-sold that joke but was much warmer to the 'third daughter' remarks.
    • As for Xiaomu, Excellen and her boyfriend were introduced to the fox spirit and her Shinra comrade Reiji Arisu by their friend Sanger Zonvolt, noting the similarities to each other. While things were a bit rocky between the guys when Reiji commented that Kyosuke was too much of a gambler, Excellen and Xiaomu hit it off almost instantly, making plans to have a girls’ night out within thirty minutes of knowing each other. The invitation would be passed forward to Selena, who agreed to attend if she could as long as Excellen gave her a heads up in advance when it was scheduled.
  • Both Excellen and Selena were invited to partake in Frank West's PERFECT EROTICA photoshoot back when they operated separately. Since banding together, the two have received yet another invite as a duo, with the idea being for them to simulate a catfight. While initially played straight, mutual admiration kicked in and led to the ladies doing more tag team, friendship, and embracing poses than combative ones. Rather than complaining about the change in tone, Frank gleefully ran with this, and the three would sit down after the shoot to come up with a tag team name to sell it under. As Excellen recalled the time she tried to get BRIAN BLESSED to christen her as (S)EXCELLEN BROWNING (more on that in her section below), Frank and Selena both got inspired to actually run with it, resulting in the photoshoot being called “PURE S[E)XCEL(LEN]A”, formatted as a clever portmanteau of the girls’ names as well as Excellen’s personal tribute to the former God of Merriment. Their edition was one of the most successful to date, with many fans wanting to see PURE S[E)XCEL(LEN]A actually become a tag team.
  • Someone else they both met back when they had separate temples would be Setsuko Ohara, the Sphere Reactor of the Sorrowful Maiden. With Excellen, it’s thanks to her ties to Masaki Andoh, one of the Masou Kishin Heralds, who she helped out during a civil war on La Gias while she was transported there. Masaki, having made it to the Pantheon, met Setsuko after she ascended and initially caught her ire due to resembling the man who made her life a living hell just to activate her powers. When told about this, Excellen personally went to see the girl and convince her that Andoh and her tormentor were not the same guy; she slowly came around after this, accepting him as a tenuous ally. Selena, meanwhile, after having her own communications with Masaki and the Heralds after they heard she’d become involved with their former archrival, did some research on them and their circumstances and discovered all of this. Thus, when Setsuko came to visit her after learning that of her ties to said former enemy, Selena was the less surprised of the two, explaining to her that her connection to that man was actually a past encounter with him alongside her last Jelba teammate. Looking back on this time rather fondly, she assured Setsuko that Shu would mean no trouble as far as she could tell.
    • While Masaki, Shu, and friends would all later leave the Pantheon, Setsuko's ties to Excellen and Selena remain to this day. Excellen's favorite female to render 'victim' to her teasing wiles used to be Lamia Loveless, the android she befriended during the 2nd OG campaign, but after the deification of Setsuko and learning of her dilemma, Excellen showed some of her subtle wisdom and switched her focus more to Setsuko as her main 'victim' in order to cheer her up. Lamia wholeheartedly agreed with this decision, and the three of them could be seen hanging out together a lot, with Excellen sort of being the "ringleader" of their little crew. Meanwhile, Selena has become something of a mentor for Setsuko, both for keeping interested men at arm's distance and for learning to control the effects of her Sphere so she can use its power without losing her five senses, something the case of Gadlight Meonsam shows is in fact possible. Since joining Excellen in her temple, Selena has been privy to much of Excellen's antics with Setsuko and Lamia. She sometimes joins them of her own accord, at other times observes while minding her own business until Setsuko calls her over for company.
  • There is an ulterior motive behind this friendly partnership, though, and it all resolves around the Shadow-Mirror, a warmongering army from a harsh parallel dimension that encroached upon the main world of SRW in hopes of plunging it into eternal war. Excellen has had plenty of personal experience with Shadow-Mirror enemies, especially considering the case of Lemon Browning, Excellen's Evil Counterpart who built Lamia and the other W-Numbers. This experience caused her as well as Lamia to notice peculiar details about Selena, from her robot being an Assault Scouter type to her talent for technological assimilation, which are eerily similar to those of Shadow-Mirror agents. Excellen is hoping to find out if Selena is in any way connected to the Shadow-Mirror, whether it be just the dimension or the organization itself, or if she just happens to be similar enough to eventually be worth their attention. Any one of these answers means Selena could be tapped for additional information on them in case they have any plans for the Pantheon, one way or another. Miss Excell is also willing to explore Lamia’s theory about Asakim Dowin being Shadow-Mirror as well due to being such a blatant Shadow Archetype of Masaki Andoh, though she isn’t totally convinced of it (and he’s currently not present to provide the lead, in any case).
  • Applies to Excellen:
    • Excellen was involved in a shuttle crash during her youth that killed everyone on board, except for her and one other passenger: Kyosuke Nanbu, who shielded her from the flaming debris. {Will expand on this}
  • Excellen is immune to mental illusions, though physical ones like holograms can still fool her. The reasoning for this comes down to the true reason why she survived the shuttle crash. She actually didn't. The shuttle accident fatally wounded her, but then she was taken by an alien species called the Einst, who rebuilt and rejuvenated her body with their technology, turning her into essentially a humanoid member of their species.
  • When it comes to traitor revelations, instead of letting one think it's just a nightmare, she prefers to let the truth out ASAP. {Will expand on this}
  • Has teased virtually every deity in the Pantheon with the chance to see her or the deity of their choice in a bunny suit. Reactions vary. Her favorite victim of teasing is Ichigo Kurosaki, Issei Hyodo — who had a rather uncontrollable reaction once, and Guy Cecil, who gives out the best flustered reaction, she thinks. Her goal is to make her boyfriend Kyosuke pull that reaction, but she has yet to succeed.
  • Excellen eagerly joined the great BRIAN BLESSED in adding merriment to the Pantheon, and thus BRIAN BLESSED has considered her a rare breed of female Boisterous Bruiser. At one point as a result of that, Excellen insisted that her name be transcribed as (S)EXCELLEN BROWNING ?, but got refused. Despite outwardly pouting at the rejection, she was secretly pleased by the chatter this moment created, with some deities giving her props for the attempt and others cheerfully “petitioning” for the Sexcellen nickname to eventually catch on. While BRIAN BLESSED has since left the Pantheon, this ultimately became the inspiration behind the “S[E)XCEL(LEN]A” moniker for her and Selena’s tag team photoshoot with Frank West, with the shoot itself being dedicated to BRIAN BLESSED.
  • With the opening of the Real Robot Division of the GUAG Robot War, on proxy of Kyosuke being promoted into leader, Excellen got promoted into vice-leader. Excellen thinks that finally this is going to have the GUAG arrange a marriage between her and Kyosuke (which prompts her to act bashful and say "Oh nooo! I'm not ready for thiiis..."), but the reason was (thankfully also acceptable for her) because the GUAG recognizes that the two are one of the best duo-team in the Pantheon. {See above}
  • At one point, much to Excellen's horror, she was unable to say anything except words or sentences she has said before, losing touch with something. As much as she tried to cheer things up via Talking with Signs to her friends (or jumbled messages based on the things she has said and recorded in the past), this is a very big blow to the otherwise perpetually cheerful Excellen. Others who were connected through this strange sense of sadness and loss at the same time but were not as physically affected, such as Iris of Repliforce, Mihoshi Kuramitsu, and even Buffy Summers, came to cheer her up almost every day. 51 days later she regained her normal self, but the occasional pang of wistfulness is still there, and her vocal base seems like it's trying or waiting to change...
  • “What does D stand for? Demon? Destroyer? My cup size?”
  • Applies to Selena:
    • Tragically, Selena is a military ghost from an Earth Federation unit called Team Jelba. The team was close-knit, almost like a family, but as she was ranked as an ensign, she wouldn’t be privy to the bigger details of some of their missions. This includes Mission Doll, a mission whose data was encrypted within Elma, whre her teammates were all destroyed by an enemy unit of masked soldiers. A furious Selena had managed to shoot off the mask of said unit’s leader, whose face she later recognized as that of an Earth Federation commander. She spent months seeking revenge against that woman while the galaxy was once again plunged into warfare.
    • While hopping through various factions that were being pitted against each other, she found targets from the same masked army that killed her team on numerous occasions, including one where the masked woman and the commander both appeared at the same time fighting against one another. In particular, meeting Sleigh Presty and Ibis Douglas of the Project Terrestrial Dream group caused her to start seeing things a bit more clearly, ultimately choosing her friendship with them above her quest for revenge. As it goes, it was while letting go of her vengeful tendencies that she came into the truth about her crew’s killer, meaning both the singular perpetrator and the conquering army as a whole; she became instrumental in the ensuing ultimately victory over the Ze Balmary Empire.
    • The Highly-Visible Ninja aesthetic to Soleares/Alegrias isn't just for show; Selena herself is very skilled at espionage despite her own flashy uniform, often infiltrating enemy ranks and adapting their knowledge and technology for her own purposes. Her skills are advanced to the point she's actually infiltrated a Blue Cosmos terror cell operation for an entire week while disguised as a man. She also carries an energy knife/whip and knows how to use it, both on foot and while piloting Alegrias (and yes, the handheld and Alegrias versions are each adjusted to the appropriate size). The teasing stuff, while she does enjoy doing it, was ironically employed a way for her to keep others from getting too close to her, as behind the flirty facade, she's actually a very professional and duty-focused soldier; that's the side of her you need to see to know that she's loyal to you.
    • Many denizens of the Pantheon look at Yuuki Terumi and Zamasu as the obvious most threatening examples of depraved omnicidal mania and hatred of humanity. Selena believes the attention these two get is misguided because it allows at least one very important enemy of similar stripes to fall under the radar. Case in point: Rau Le Creuset. Due to her very temporary alliance with ZAFT, Selena is quite aware of what Commander Creuset is truly capable of, seeing his courteous approach to ruthless warfare as a mask for his true nihilistic intentions. One such example she cites is when he tried to use Athrun Zala’s retrieval of Lacus Clyne from a willing Kira Yamato as a pretext to launch an ambush on Kira and the Strike Gundam, which was the lynchpin for her and two members of the Alpha Numbers to defect from Creuset’s ZAFT team to rejoin the Earth Federation.
    • Has a friendly competition with Major Armstrong involving bouncing things off their bodies, her breasts vs. his muscles. She does it to encourage him as a soldier who she respects, and because it's fun. She's also friendly with Mai Shiranui and Kasumi, both of whom are well-endowed kunoichi. She and Mai hit it off especially well, as Mai approves of the use of sensual distraction as a martial tactic.
    • Charlie Nash, both impressed with her particular skills and sympathetic to her tragedy due to the details of his own mission and deaths, approached Selena with an opportunity. She initially used her "tease" persona to keep silent on what it is, as well as who else may know about it. Eventually things became a bit more clear when the details of how Father Homunculus was able to orchestrate the ascension of Führer-President King Bradley were disseminated to the public despite the Homunculi thwarting Guile and Chun-Li’s investigation and forcing Charlie to pull them out early, and then Selena accompanied Nash to the office of President Josiah Bartlet while discussing the matter of forming a team to handle similar threats as Shadaloo and the Ze Balmary Empire. They very quickly reunited with Nash’s friend, Rashid of the Turbulent Wind, and later also aligned with Ahsoka Tano and Brock Samson. It’s notable that Selena makes no play to tease either Nash or Rashid, instead respecting Charlie as a captain and regularly bickering with the Turbulent Wind. This is in fact treated as a sign that she holds the two in hgih regard.
    • Some research on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s connections show that she's also occasionally done some work for Nick Fury in the past, though to what extent is uncertain. {See above}
    • “How cute...I guess he wants to play?”

Edited by SomeoneElse17 on Mar 25th 2023 at 1:42:38 AM

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. Since: Nov, 2010
Mr
#196696: Mar 25th 2023 at 3:00:15 AM

[up][up][up]The Star fleet has nine members; Captain Star, Ten Cents (#1), Big Mac (#2), O.J. (#3), Top Hat (#4), Warrior (#5), Hercules (#6), Sunshine (#7), Grampus (#8).

Sunshine and Grampus join in the series.

The Z-Stacks is the name of the group that works against them.

Edited by neoamon on Mar 25th 2023 at 10:03:22 AM

"May your heart be your guiding key"
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#196697: Mar 25th 2023 at 3:14:08 AM

I know.

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#196698: Mar 25th 2023 at 7:45:05 AM

I'd like to toss my hat around the Alliances and say that since I'm holding responsibility for reworking the entirety of 40K, could I ask if I can "decentralize" the franchise, in a sense that the Emperor of Mankind and whoever is a part of the franchise should not hold high authority in any Pantheon group. While this may result in the Order of Humanity to be dissolved, honestly I believe its fair since you mentioned that franchise-related groups are to be dissolved to avoid franchise bias. Now that SMT has lesser influence (and I should expect other franchises, such as Marvel, DC, and other supposedly popular works around the cliques here like MLP and SU, to do the same), its best 40K receives the same treatment and that other franchises follow the same.

Now with that out of the way, here are a few drafts I've been preparing. Posting for some feedback. I'm still contemplating if the Protagonist is better off with Fun with Palindromes over No Name Given.

The Protagonist, the God Without A Known Name

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  • Demigod
  • Symbol: The Tenet organization symbol
  • Leitmotifs: WINDMILLS, THE PROTAGONIST
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: The protagonist who lacks a name and acts as a body for the audience, has strong nerves in combat, has no personal emotions towards his targets, would rather accept death than compromise his allies, slowly uncovers that he is the head of Tenet
  • Domains: Time, Heroism, Counter-Terrorism, Espionage, Inversion
  • Allies:
  • Opposed by: The House of Time and Temporality
  • Enemies:
  • It all started in an opera house within the outskirts of Kiev, where a hostage situation is in place. Authorities are ready to engage and rescue any hostage within but underneath the mainland authorities are a group of black ops operatives with a rescue mission to save an exposed CIA operative. One of these members however, seeing the entire hostage situation, decided to help the civilians despite being outside of their mission objectives. After which, he would be kidnapped and tortured by unknown assailants, with him risking his death to avoid leaking his squad's location. This became the event that recruited this man, well let's just call him the Protagonist, into a hidden organization known as Tenet. This body of secret spies and espionage were recruited under the sole purpose of saving the world in secret, through the use of a reverse-entropy mechanic known as Inversion. Following an entire sequence (or reverse sequence) of events that resulted in a few revelations and twists that nearly costed both his and his squad's life were they able to save the world in secret, with the Protagonist getting a bonus that he would eventually take the mantle as the next leader of the organization, with some assistance from the "future".
  • To understand what exactly the Protagonist, for a lack of name, did throughout these shortened events, there is one indispensable tool/concept that needs context. Inversion. Because events naturally happen from a cause-to-effect sequence, Inversion is a tool that emphasizes turning back in time, not in the future, but in the past in "real-time". Effectively, time-travelling in reverse rather than from a specific point. This ultimately results in backwards rolling, reverse walking and fighting and a rather skewed perception of which event is "inversed" and which is not. It is uncommon for many to think that the entirety of his adventure was effectively a palindrome, where events works the same forwards as well as backwards. It does come with a ton of risks but if pulled off correctly, it can show future events and revelations that can be useful to save the present.
  • When his ascension came into play, one of the first destinations that he arrived at was the House of Time and Temporality where his arrival was filled to the brim with confusion and bafflement towards other Gods, likely because of the vagueness of the Inversion mechanic. Most Gods have focused on time travel based on specific points in time so to see someone like him turn the concept into a backwards time phenomenon leaves a sore mark on the House. Unlike the other deities however, his way of "time travel" has less risks on the future as it focuses on the reversal of the past in real-time, but it does come with a certain set of conditions in that inversed individuals must see themselves in reverse doing the inversion before attempting to do so, they must carry inversed oxygen when attempting to do an inversion, and that the laws of physics do not apply while in inversion. So while less dangerous than most extreme ways of time-travel, it does require a lot of knowledge and can often cause confusion to less knowledgeable people, of which he can teach to those interested.

Alfred Borden and Robert Angier, Dual Gods of Repeated Vengeful Acts (Freddy Borden for Alfred's real identity, Lord Caldrow for Robert Angier's new identity)

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L-R: Alfred Borden, Robert Angier

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#196699: Mar 25th 2023 at 8:16:22 AM

[up]I've never seen Tenet, but The Protagonist could have a relationship with the Inception cast, from a thematically similar movie by the same director.

Also, I didn't understand what the Order of Humanity was about in the first place. I was about to ask if Mon Partnerships was also too work-specific, but it's just a repository of information that's already on profiles, so...

Feedback-only mode

The Star FleetMembers , Holy Vessels of Single Season Shows (All: Star Tugs | Big Mac: Big Stack | O.J.: Old Jones, Otis)

A couple of notes:

  • I'll add images later.
  • Bigg City is on the west coast, right?

Edited by NitroIndigo on Mar 25th 2023 at 4:09:13 PM

Necromancer10 Buddy from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Buddy
#196700: Mar 25th 2023 at 9:13:36 AM

@SomeoneElse17: I see, that said it would be preferable to avoid explicit theming on a single deity or series to avoid misconceptions, and would prefer the rivalling Sects of Divine Law idea.

As for Excellen and Selena: Coop, Jamie, and Kiva operate a large super mecha for fighting evil alien forces known as MEGAS (it's mostly Coop as the pilot) and Jamie would certainly trying hitting on them. Dunno significance but Natalie of the EBF Party is a reputable Reluctant Fanservice Girl

[up][up] The reworked Alliances and Uprisings are designed to not have sole leaders for entire factions as a whole (or appear so), so there aren't going to be any factions where one character or series has significant explicit influence as some of the current factions rn, since this rework aims at the root of the franchise-based influences in general. While the Order of Humanity will not last as it is, nothing says that a more general humanity-based group is off the table where some 40K characters could be applicable (not that they'd have comparable influence as they do now). I'd personally go with a "House of Humanity" approach if enough tropes are present to make it feasible.

The Protagonist would be at odds with another heroic team of time travelers, Project Splinter, and also Max Walker from the same Hall. For Borden and Angier, The Wright Anything Agency would opposed to them due to Trucy (also a stage magician herself), Athena, and Apollo dealing with an incredibly unscrupulous revenge-driven former magician known as Mr. Reus or Roger Retinz who attempted to destroy Trucy's career mainly due to her being from the family of magicians he held a grudge on.

[up] Mon Partnerships isn't really a faction so stuff like that isn't my business for these reworks.

Edited by Necromancer10 on Mar 25th 2023 at 12:15:30 PM

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