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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Phunn-Ceyes from Wherever I am needed least Since: Jun, 2019
#143777: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:20:34 PM

I've noticed that there aren't any gods in the House of Family that represent tropes relating to divorce. It seems to me that there are many angles from which the subject can be approached, and subsequently room for several such deities. Does anyone else think it is worth exploring?

How is this supposed to work?
yugi195 Chronicle Magician from Spirit World Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chronicle Magician
#143778: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:30:01 PM

[up] Find a god and a trope, and we'll talk about it.

In another few hours, the sun will rise.
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#143779: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:41:16 PM

Feedback Mode

About time I got back to this.

The students of St. Hermelin Highmembers , Godly Collective of Bad Localizations (Boy With Earring: The Pierced Boy, Naoya "Naorin" Toudou, Yūya Narumi, Jihei "Jay" Suzakuin | Maki: Mary, Nanjo: Nate Trinity, Nate Nanjo | Mark: "Massie" (by his mom) | Yukino: Yuuki | Elly: Erie, Ellen, Ellie | Brown: Brad, "Great Brown" | Ayase: Alana | Reiji: Six-pack Leader, Captain Naked, Chris)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1564507618771.png
Left to right, top to bottom: Maki, the Protagonist, Mark, Ayase, Elly, Nanjo, Brown, Yukino, Reiji
Yukino in Persona 2 
Nanjo in Persona 2 
Elly in Persona 2 
Maki in Persona 2 
Brown in Persona 2 
Reiji in Persona 2 
  • As for the trope they're ascending for, it's something rather... infamous for their game: Bad Export for You. Why? Because the first American localization of what would be known as Revelations: Persona went down in gaming history as a textbook case of how not to localize a title. All the flaws 
    • Despite how demeaning this would be, Philemon accepted these terms, and thus every single Player Character Persona-user is now in the Pantheon, save for the upcoming Kasumi Yoshizawa and anyone else who will appear after the Phantom Thieves of Hearts.

  • Applies to all or some of them:
    • Due to their title, they at times take the appearances they assume both in their original story, the sequel (if they were present there), or even the original "American" localization, which none of them are too proud of. At least Yukino was spared the last.
    • Besides Philemon and Igor, greeting them in the ascension ceremony were all the Persona-users who have succeeded them, and it was a grand event.
    • Unlike the Persona-users after the ones from Sumaru City, who all (or mostly) apart from the Wild Card have just one Persona (that can evolve), all of them can take on multiple Personas, not just their team leader, and can swap and exchange them mid-battle. On the flip side, they have affinities to watch out for, which limits which Personas they can take on depending on their Arcanas. Also, SP cost is dependent solely on their Persona, no matter what skill is used.
      • That said, unlike the ones from Sumaru City, save for the ones who participated in the events there, (which excludes only the Protagonist, Mark, and Ayase), Personas can't be swapped between each other unless it's at the Velvet Room. Instead, each of them has a Persona Stock of three (including their current one)... which is incidentally what Philemon arranged for Tatsuya and Maya and their friends for when they're separated. For here, he made a caveat for the St. Hermelin High students when it comes to their pseudo-"Wild Card"s; their Stocks are shared when they're together, though not when in battle.
      • That said, due to how different Personas are between universes, party Persona Stocks are separated by games of origin, thus disallowing Persona swapping with the Fool Arcana Wild Cards. As for those from Sumaru City, those who have been in both parties (Yukino, Elly, and Nanjo) can serve as "intermediaries"
      • Unlike S.E.E.S. onward, their (and the Sumaru City group's) Ultimate Personas have to be fused at the Velvet Room, and a special item has to be added to the process. They're also "returnable" for other items, in which Igor will inform them that the Totems needed to fuse their Ultimate Personas again will be provided by Philemon. That said, to curb abuse of this system, after a Totem is accepted from him, he will not offer it again until after one full year in the Pantheon has passed.
      • Just like the Phantom Thieves of Hearts, these Persona-users normally wield two weapons of choice; a "traditional" RPG weapon, and a firearm. Unlike the Phantoms however, their guns are real, and so they also make purchases from Marcus Kincaid's vending machines and Drebin 893. In the event any of them enter the Metaverse, Ren decided to inform them that bullets are unnecessary in that dimension due to Cognition, though some might do so anyway if their bullets can inflict status effects.
      • One thing that has surprised the students however is that their Personas' Dia (and Recarm) skills work on anybody, not just other Persona-users, since that doesn't occur in their world. Everyone after them never realized that since they never really thought of it (and since back in the mortal realm, for S.E.E.S. onwards, Personas can't even be summoned period except in specific dimensions or via an Evoker).
    • Another thing that was brought to their attention is the TV World and its potential to bestow Personas to "clients" who traverse its dungeons (with the Investigation Team, of course) and confront their Shadow. It's somewhat amusing that there is a fixed method now to acquiring a Persona, which may occur after defeating the Shadow and accepting it.
      • That said, only those who came from the worlds under the watch of Philemon and Igor can summon Personas in the Pantheon proper rather than being limited to specific areas, not only to maintain the delicate balance of the Pantheon, but also to prevent the events of Innocent Sin from repeating themselves in the Pantheon.
    • Are no strangers to fighting non-Persona-using humans, whereas S.E.E.S., the Investigation Team, and the Phantom Thieves of Hearts only got used to it after ascension to the Pantheon (unless one counts Labrys and Sho Minazuki prior to them getting their own Personas).
    • They have seen Philemon's entire face behind the mask before Tatsuya, but according to them, he looked like a middle-aged man. Of course, given Philemon's nature, he could look like anyone he wants.
    • Taking the same plan-thinking roles as Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, Naoya, Nanjo, and Mark take on similar decision types and get along with each of their counterparts (and the latter two have already been in the Pantheon for a while as their followers).
    • It's not known how exactly the Snow Queen Quest and the conflict against SEBEC occured at the same timeframe given that players never get to see that in their playthroughs.
    • After the entire Snow Queen business, everyone (with the exception of Mark, Maki, and Reiji, who weren't present for the whole thing) is wary of those who can freeze a building in seconds.
    • May have encountered Yog-Sothoth in a subway. The Elder God's not confirming if they did.
    • Are naturally in opposition of Nyarlathotep due to being The Man Behind the Man for Kandori, even if he allows them to take him on as a Persona should they wish to.
    • They (specifically those involved in the Snow Queen Quest) aren't sure what to think of Nemesis. On one hand, she served as a Persona of one of their foes (though the goddess does admit to clerical errors in that regard). On the other, she also lent her power to one of S.E.E.S.'s members.
    • Preserving one's own beauty by casting off their life is one thing. Using the lives of others to do that (like Mother Gothel) is another. And committing genocide to preserve a world's beauty (like Lysandre) is a whole other kind of twisted. As such, thanks to their experiences in Thanatos Tower, the Snow Queen Quest participants, especially Brown and Ayase, despise such people.
      • Speaking of Thanatos, they were certainly surprised with how different he looked, and that he also did time as Minato and Kotone's Persona. That said, given how varied Thanatos himself is due to the nature of his title...
    • They also pity those who would rather keep dreaming rather than live in the waking world. But to force others into that too is less excusable.
    • Having actually fought off Nyx near the end of the Snow Queen Quest, they are certainly somewhat closer with S.E.E.S. since they eventually did the same. That said, the titaness had to remind them that she isn't the same as the one they fought.
    • While only two thirds of them were present in Sumaru City to fight off Nazis, their atrocities and desire to build a twisted new world order taught all of them that people/cults like them are nothing but bad news.
    • Were immediately cautious upon encountering Carrie given they (or at least the SEBEC Route participants) encountered her (or more specifically a demon version of her, just like how it is with SMT!Alice) multiple times over the course of their journey. The confusion was quickly cleared up before long.

  • Exclusive to the Protagonist:
    • While he has at least three "canon" names, out of convenience, and just like with Kotone Shiomi, he is usually addressed by his manga name Naoya Toudou.
    • Tends to get sidetracked with other stuff when going between Point A to Point B, something his friends take note of.
    • Major traits of the Emperor Arcana include excelling as a leader, wisdom, and fatherly/brotherly behavior. Out of all the Persona-users under this Arcana, some find it amusing that only Naoya embodies these traits better than those after him (Akihiko, Kanji, and Yusuke).
    • Already deciding that Nyarlathotep was bad news, Ra has offered Naoya his assistance should he need it.
    • To this day, he's not telling where he went or what he was doing during the events of Persona 2.

  • Exclusive to Maki:
    • While it was actually her Ideal self that fought alongside her classmates, Philemon decided that her strength, progress, and bow proficiency will be transferred so that she's more able to keep up with the others.
    • She was already in the Pantheon as the High Priestess (just like her Arcana) of the Cutie Mark Crusaders due to her entire story arc, and she still keeps in touch with them. She admits it was... something else when she found out that they became Persona-users too, even if it's limited in terms of summoning allowances compared to everyone else.
    • To make up for what she inadvertently caused from the DEVA System using her subconscious to wreak such havoc, she became a therapist. As such, she also helps out Dr. Frasier Crane from time to time, and doesn't like Dr. Angus Bumby for making people worse off and vulnerable to his manipulations.
    • She's also a pretty good artist, which caught the attention of Yusuke, who appreciates her talent.
    • Jun is also someone she's familiar with, having (possibly) handed him his ultimate weapon (even if it was just a flower).
    • As someone who also practices archery and is primarily a healer, Maki gets along and primarily practises with Yukari.

  • Exclusive to Nanjo:
    • In his younger days, he used to be pretty cold, and willing to do the logical thing, even if it means letting someone die. However, his incognito tenure as a salaryman at a Nanjo Group salaryman after graduation have slowly mellowed him out, as the Sumaru City Eternal Punishment party can attest to. Mark, who has often argued with him back in their high school days, is honestly surprised with this change.
      • Having witnessed the cruelties of the business world during his "undercover" tenure, Nanjo has dedicated himself not to be like the corrupt businessmen in the Pantheon such as Mr. Burns and Looten Plunder.
    • Has a profound respect for Alfred Pennyworth for his dedication to his master and being an essential person in Bruce Wayne's upbringing.
    • Has no patience for snobs who think they're superior to those with less money/prestige and think it's a waste of time to learn the "lesser customs". When Nanjo went to St. Hermelin, it was to know and learn from the people he'd be "ruling over", because he knew that would be important for his future.
    • He also refuses to curry favor with those stronger than him.
    • Most Persona-users' Ultimate Personas usually take the form of all sorts of powerful mythological deities such as Amen-Ra, Apollo, Izanagi-no-Okami, etc. (or at least highly influential religious figures such as Messiah or Satanael). Kei's takes the form of his late butler Yamaoka, who raised him since infancy, and was essentially his father figure. Some find that peculiar and pitiful, and others find it heartwarming and awesome in that Yamaoka continues to look after his master even in the afterlife and is capable of keeping up with the other Ultimate Personas.
    • It is not known if the Nanjo Group from Persona 3 onward is the same as the one in Persona 2 and before it, but given that it is business partners with the Kirijo Group, which used to be part of them before splitting off, Kei decided an official alliance with Mitsuru would be for the best, and she agreed to it.
      • That said, he's a little annoyed that she flaunts her wealth on behalf of Gekkoukan High and S.E.E.S. and finds it a little irresponsible; by contrast, when Yamaoka awaited him outside the school and offered a ride in the limo for him and his friends (to the hospital for a check-up and to visit Maki), Kei had been embarrassed by this prospect and preferred to walk. Then again, given the circumstances, it was likely that he never really got a chance to back then; all he had access to when demons started attacking were what he and his friends carried. He's certainly did more with it as a young adult, though.
    • As the child of a rich company yet personable with those of lower stature, he's also come to appreciate Haru Okumura's company, though is saddened that she won't be taking over her company after her father died.
      • Come to think of it, between them and him, they all lost a father (figure in Nanjo's case) in supernatural events.
    • Out of those from Sumaru City, he enjoyed Baofu's company as they debated over baseball teams. Even if it was Kei who discovered Baofu's real name on behalf of Katsuya.

  • Exclusive to Mark:
    • Some people wonder why he brought an axe to school with him right before SEBEC enacted its plan. Some say it was meant to be interpreted as him grabbing an emergency fire axe from the hospital when the demons first attacked the group.
    • Is a talented artist, even if he started with graffiti on the walls in his early years. Ever since his art school education at New York, he's certainly gotten better and knows how to use other art tools, though the street art style remains, and it's received critical acclaim.
      • Even back as a graffiti artist, he doesn't have any real issues against cops; he knows they are only looking out for him. Well, the ones that actually are, that is.
    • Aside from both of them being under the same Arcana, Mark and Chie share the same determination in saving their closest friend no matter what (Maki and Yukiko).
    • He also connected with Ryuji over being occasionally derided by their smarter companions as well as both having been handed monkey-related insults at some point (as well as the same Chariot Arcana connection).
    • With his talent for art, he also garnered the respect of Yusuke. It also helps that the Starving Artist has also become friends with Maki.
    • Yes, he would "dance crazy" to negotiate with demons or when it is time for dancing, but he's not doing it just because you ask.
    • For some reason, whenever Abridged!Asuna encounters him, she always greets him with black racist comments. Even if he isn't black at the time. It's both confusing and annoying to both of them.
    • No, the fact that his surname is the same name as the town the Investigation Team live in (Inaba) is just a coincidence. Stop asking. Besides, it's also in the name of a certain trickster hare.
    • Had an encounter with Susano-o in the Velvet Room, who "remembered" having helped him before against Kandori (and Nyarlathotep tangentially). Mark also finds it strange that Susano-o has lent his aid to two other Persona-users since then, and it had been a very weird meeting. Yosuke had that feeling too when he first met Yusuke.

  • Exclusive to Yukino:
    • Works as a freelance photographer alongside Maya when she's not with her alumni, and eventually got to meet her colleagues like Lois Lane, Jade, Frank West, Aya Shameimaru, Tamie Nogi, and their boss Jonah Jameson.
    • After hearing of Ryuji's backstory, she realized that it was a lot like that of her friend Anna Yoshizawa, who was a similarly disgraced and career-ending injured track athlete.
    • Likes ballet, particularly The Nutcracker.

  • Exclusive to Elly:
    • As soon as she was able to (which was after the establishment of their temple), Elly wasted no time getting herself acquainted with everything the Pantheon has to offer, particularly the Houses of Magic and Otherness, fascinated by all the supernatural and strange things that happen all the time in the Pantheon. She was also the first of them to be revived at the House of Life and Death given that her fascination also clouds her sense of danger, especially when her exploration ended by way of getting petrified by Medusa.
    • Depsite not being one herself, Elly gets along well enough with the Goth Girls due to their occult interests. Nico Minoru, too.
    • As someone who shares her love of fortune telling and ghost stories, Elly was glad to meet Ulala again.
    • Despite her otaku level knowledge of the occult, it's only effective for the knowledge she has beforehand. As evidenced in her mission at Sumaru TV: Once a twist on a spell is utilized, she can get stumped easily without help from one who can see the problem another way.
    • When she isn't hanging with her alumni or other occult fans, Elly works part time as a Fashion Model and thus gets along with the deities in the fashion industry. She also occasionally moonlights as an Occult Detective.
      • Besides fellow Persona-user Ann, Elly also got acquainted with Marinette and Adrien and their... unique love situation. On one hand, she wants to encourage Marinette to truly confess her feelings before the chance is missed like Elly felt it had been for herself before their reunion. On the other hand, the whole superhero secret identity deal makes that complicated and the "Heroes Day" event showed why that could be a bad idea.

  • Exclusive to Brown:
    • His nickname doesn't refer to the color of his hair, but actually to a bowel movement accident he had in school as a child.
    • Despite his narcissistic attitude and his penchant for jokes, he's true to his companions, won't tolerate any insults or suffering on them, and takes things seriously when that happens.
    • When he isn't hanging with his alumni, mostly Yuka or Masao, he's at the House of Theater entertaining as a variety show host and comedian. There's certainly more competition, but he's not going to be deterred.
    • The Investigation Team remember meeting a Uesugi among Kanamin Kitchen, and her surname even has the same kanji as his. It is unknown if the two characters are related or if this is a mere coincidence.

  • Exclusive to Ayase:
    • When it comes to whip combat, she doesn't prioritize on its lash being powerful but more on being able to inflict Standard Status Effects. And Yuka can maximize this potential by being able to strike multiple targets at once (if they're clustered close enough). The only other whip-using Persona-user can only do this on certain situations.
    • Unlike others of the Magician Arcana (Junpei, Yosuke, and Morgana), Yuka doesn't seem to have any love tragedy in her life (unless you count that of her own making with Toro).
    • None of those involved in the Snow Queen Quest were happy to see Mara in the Pantheon, but this goes double for Yuka, since Mara served as the "Persona" of someone she dumped and who retaliated violently. Mara that time also happened to burst out of his stomach as a gigantic, fanged, penile worm to attack them. It wasn't that traumatic since that was when she awakened her Persona, but still.
    • May or may not have some experience with cooking, specifically apple pies and other snacks.

  • Exclusive to Reiji:
    • Is proficient in the art of prestidigitation (a.k.a. magic tricks), particularly with playing cards, and is very impressive with it.
    • Despite Akechi's actions, Reiji isn't as contemptuous of him like everyone else since he knows what it's like, given he was also a bastard with hostile issues and a plan of vengeance against a legitimate relative (though in Reiji's case, it was with his brother Kandori).
      • And holding vengeance in his heart for years on end on someone responsible for harm against one's mother's is also why he also understands the young Ken.
    • When he isn't hanging with his alumni, he works as a door-to-door knife merchant, though didn't get much success due to his Persona's intimidating aura. That said, he's somewhat more successful here since most folks in the Pantheon are made of tougher stuff.
      • That said, given a fair number of evil Knife Nuts in the Pantheon exist, he tries not to get involved with such people when he can. And if they try to steal his wares, he can sic Bres/Mot/whatever Persona he has on them. And if they can take him on still, why do they even need knives from him in the first place?
      • One of his sales took him to the Doki Doki Literature Club's temple, where Yuri made a purchase, although she was disappointed that there were no ornate knives in his collection. While undeterred given his experiences, he could tell there's something a tad unsettling about her.

Edited by nightelf37 on Aug 19th 2019 at 9:42:05 PM

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#143780: Aug 19th 2019 at 7:45:18 PM

[nja]

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Aug 19th 2019 at 8:13:55 AM

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#143781: Aug 19th 2019 at 7:46:07 PM

[up]Why are you [tup] the profile when it has some blank bullets?

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#143782: Aug 19th 2019 at 7:49:56 PM

You would think the writer of the profile would notice by himself but needs someone else to point out.

Really nightelf?

Uni cat
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#143783: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:06:10 PM

[up] Doesn't he fill those in as he goes along?

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#143784: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:29:32 PM

[up] Doesnt look like it. Those bullet points have been empty for weeks

Uni cat
Phunn-Ceyes from Wherever I am needed least Since: Jun, 2019
#143785: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:42:28 PM

@yugi195 Well, my first thought was for Tulip Olsen from Infinity Train to represent the child's perspective of divorce, since her character arc is about her learning to accept her parents' divorce and acknowledge the emotional turmoil it had been causing her, the unhealthy responses she had been practicing, and the way she has subconsciously skewed her own understanding of it. However, this may just be because the show is recent and fresh in my mind, so I wanted to see if anyone had any better candidates.

And since I thinking of it, I realized it would be appropriate for other aspects of divorce, particularly the couple's perspective, to be represented, but I couldn't think of any appropriate deities. So I set the question out there.

How is this supposed to work?
nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
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#143786: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:53:06 PM

Well, of course the blank bullets will be removed in the final draft. I should probably make that clear every single time I post a profile, don't I?

Edited by nightelf37 on Aug 19th 2019 at 11:53:35 PM

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louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#143787: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:54:05 PM

[up]Still, if they have no usefulness in the final draft, just delete it.

For suggestions, since Reiji performs magic tricks, could he interact with Kaito Kuroba who is a really good magician that are really impossible to perform

Edited by louisent31 on Aug 20th 2019 at 12:00:49 AM

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wootzits Since: Apr, 2010
#143788: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:57:19 PM

@Phunn: It's fairly useless to talk about things you want to ascend without a concrete trope in mind. And I don't think there's a trope about children suffering because of their parents' divorce (yet?).

If you're still interested in ascending the character, you could try Logical Latecomer (so long as you explain why she fits).

Edited by wootzits on Aug 19th 2019 at 5:00:41 PM

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#143789: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:59:47 PM

[up][up][up]Any reason not to just remove them from the current draft?

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Aug 19th 2019 at 9:00:00 AM

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...
The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread
#143790: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:12:31 PM

[up]Laziness. And as a reminder to add more content if I think it could use a little more work.

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Phunn-Ceyes from Wherever I am needed least Since: Jun, 2019
#143791: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:17:42 PM

[up][up][up] I figured it would be categorized under Parental Issues. I think her parent problems are a more defining aspect of her character, but Logical Latecomer does work for Tulip and is worth considering if this doesn't pan out. However my immediate focus is still to introduce the dynamic of divorce to the House of Family, so if you know of any other characters that you think would fit the concept better, please put them out there.

Edited by Phunn-Ceyes on Aug 19th 2019 at 9:18:01 AM

How is this supposed to work?
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#143792: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:40:34 PM

Shouldn't Tulip be held off until after season 2? I heard the first season ended in a big Mind Screw.

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M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#143793: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:43:27 PM

Anyone have any suggestions on how to separate the GUAG Combat Division into groups based on fighters? Sorry, got sidetracked with other stuff. Gonna update my sandbox for the GUAG Combat Division soon

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#143794: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:54:26 PM

Infinity Train is too new. Lets not repeat Steven Universe.

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#143795: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:58:58 PM

[up] Or RWBY.

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Phunn-Ceyes from Wherever I am needed least Since: Jun, 2019
#143796: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:59:06 PM

Fair enough. I'm not aware of what happened with Steven Universe, but I understand how that scenario could get messy. I had heard that each season was going to have a new protagonist, but that may just be a rumor and definitely shouldn't be acted upon.

Does anyone have any other ideas relating to divorce tropes and dynamics, or should I let the idea go?

Edited by Phunn-Ceyes on Aug 19th 2019 at 10:00:25 AM

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#143797: Aug 19th 2019 at 10:06:38 PM

[up] Basically, the original group (Garnet, Amethyst, Pearl, and Steven) were ascended sometime during the beginning of Season 2. They got reworked during Season 4 because a lot of stuff happened that made their profiles incredibly outdated. I'm going to be reworking them again after the movie airs because a lot of stuff once again happened, though their profiles shouldn't be that out of date this time, at least in terms of characterization.

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SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#143798: Aug 19th 2019 at 10:07:35 PM

[up] Just wait for someone to get an idea.

Now that we've settled the KR issue: here's the next batch of suggestions since r-lock asked me to provide an overview of the profiles I adopted from n3xus:

After Hotman's comment, I double and triple checked the tropes these guys represent so they don't sound out of place.

  • Akihiko Kayaba for Game Master. He technically runs the very special virtual reality game of Sword Art Online, leaning fully into his curiosity to create a lifelike simulation to the point of trapping the players in the game to see how they would survive possible real-life death. His disguise as Heathcliff in helping the other players escape the game and reach the final boss (him). His admin status serves as the Author and Administrator part of the trope, and Referee and Director with his participation alongside the other players as Heathcliff, the leader of the guild Knights of the Blood Oath.

  • Masamune Dan for Killer Game Master. He is a merciless and effective CEO of Genm Corp, manipulating events so he can take Kamen Rider Chronicle AR game from his son and the enemy Bugsters. After revealing himself as Kamen Rider Cronus, he's this trope on full display, abusing his time manipulation powers as Cronus, referring to the Riders and players as test products, even deleting Bugsters who displease him from the game code, effectively 'killing' them and deleting them permanently (and they completed the game for him!) He can theoretically 'kill' the entire player base by unleashing the game's final boss, Gamedeus to release the most potent Bugster Virus ever capable of IRL killing all Chronicle players and innocent lives. This also rounds up the three big Game Master tropes and come full circle.

  • Allelujah Haptism and Soma Peries for Split-Personality Merge. They are Super Soldiers whose primary byproduct was the creation of split personalities (Allelujah's is a Superpowered Evil Side named Hallelujah, and Peries' is a manufactured one due to her comatose state). While initially the chaotic personalities cause them (and their mobile suits) to go berserk at times, their love for each other brings out their good sides back, and significant Character Development occurs where they overcome and merge both sides together (most apparent in Hallelujah, with both personalities working in unison during battle, and Peries' battling with original personality Marie as The Heart)

I also have proposals for Death Gun and the Extended Soldiers, but they're on hold until I get approval for these (because overcrowding). Laying out my ascension plans for the next few months. Once holidays start in November I can go full speed ahead into all these.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Aug 20th 2019 at 1:10:45 AM

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Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#143799: Aug 19th 2019 at 10:15:58 PM

[up] [tup] They all sound good to me.

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louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#143800: Aug 20th 2019 at 2:09:00 AM

[up][up][tup] for all three of them.

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