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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#135201: Apr 22nd 2019 at 6:43:27 AM

I wont be outdone. So i will handle and rework all relevant MK profiles.

Might need sone help too

Uni cat
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#135202: Apr 22nd 2019 at 6:52:23 AM

Well, you'll have to fall in line. Almost all of us are asking help in our profiles with little to no avail. Now that I wonder, with very little people who know Warcraft, Khadgar's profile will be one of the hardest to write with.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
DVB D Hero (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: It was never meant to be
D Hero
#135203: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:24:05 AM

I'm wondering if we should just start sending these out and then people can correct them over time

TheWikiaEditor Since: Sep, 2018
#135204: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:30:44 AM

Repost of Kalrow, I've added a little to it.

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Kalrow, God of Levitation (Kalrow of the Seven Deities, The Great Tactician)
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Kalrow1_129.png
  • Intermediate God (potentially capable of becoming a Greater God)
  • Symbol: His staff
  • Theme Song: Fear God
  • Alignment: Lawful Evil
  • Portfolio: Levitation, Beam Spam, Beard of Evil, Brilliant, but Lazy, Cutscene Boss, Dirty Coward, Evil Genius, Evil Old Folks, Mad Scientist, The Strategist, The Unfought, Too Important to Walk
  • Domain(s): Levitation, Sloth, Strategy
  • Allies: Deus, Wyzen, Augus, Sergei, Dr. XXX, Grand Admiral Thrawn, Gunter Prozen, Sloth the Indolent
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Yasha
  • Enemies: Asura, Mithra, Chakravartin, Chun-Li, Robin
  • Kalrow was originally one of the Eight Guardian Generals in service to the Emperor of Shinkoku to protect the Realm of Shinkoku and Gaea from the dark forces of the Gohma, his mantra affinity is Sloth. Despite his status and rank, Kalrow generally stays out of the fighting, instead preferring to organize the battle plans of the fleets. Kalrow was the mastermind behind General Deus' coup d'etat, which culminated in the assassination of the Emperor and the banishment and death of General Asura, who was blamed as the cause. Afterwards, the Eight Guardian Generals were disbanded and transformed into the Seven Deities. 12,500 years later, Kalrow and his fleet engaged Asura in battle after they had tried to collect the souls of the people in a village that Asura was defending. Ultimately, Asura was too powerful and managed to wipe out Kalrow's entire fleet. Kalrow managed to use an escape pod to flee, but Asura managed to grab on it. Kalrow begged for his life, but Asura crushed the escaped pod and Kalrow with it. Kalrow was later reincarnated into the modern world and got in trouble with the police by speeding on his Segway-esque vehicle.
  • Kalrow originally ascended into the pantheon as part of Deus' plan to reunite the Seven Deities, he was made the God of Evil Geniuses. However, once further scrutiny had been given for each and every one of them, Kalrow was removed along with Wyzen, Olga and Sergei.
  • Although he had lost his title, Kalrow managed to re-ascend into the pantheon as the High Priest of Dr. XXX, the new holder of Kalrow's former title. However, Deus, who had remained unperturbed by his setback, attempted to ascend the remaining Seven Deities and managed to once again ascend Kalrow as a god into the pantheon, this time as the God of Levitation.
  • Following his re-ascension, Kalrow remains on good terms with Dr. XXX. Although he's rather annoyed by the Doctor's hamminess, Kalrow nonetheless respects his skills and mastery in manipulation.
  • Kalrow has managed to befriend Grand Admiral Thrawn and the two share a mutual respect for each others' respective talents. Their shared belief in performing Necessary Evil in order to achieve their goals further strengthened their cooperation. They occasionally collaborate with each other when making plans in order to ensure that they are truly perfect.
  • Kalrow also quickly befriended Gunter Prozen, who had similarly betrayed his Emperor and prefers to send lackeys to do his dirty work for him. Kalrow was quite happy to finally meet a kindred spirit and the two frequently help each other to plot against their respective enemies.
  • Kalrow quickly gained the trust and obedience of Sloth the Indolent, who is perfectly satisfied to work for someone who similarly appreciates laziness. Kalrow is quite content to have a weak-willed but otherwise powerful lackey to order around.
  • Kalrow was rather annoyed to learn of Asura and Mithra's presence in the pantheon as well as Yasha's betrayal of the Seven Deities. Although he generally avoids them, he looks forward towards making a plan to exact revenge upon them. However, Kalrow is still willing to work alongside Yasha whenever the deities battle against particularly strong enemies such as Chakravartin.
  • Many were confused as to why Kalrow has a particularly strong dislike of Chun-Li specifically. She herself eventually revealed that she was the police officer who apprehended him for speeding on his Segway-esque vehicle. Although he's admitted that his grudge against her is petty, Kalrow continues to resent her nonetheless.
  • Due to having been the one who devised the plan to kill the Emperor of Shinkoku, Kalrow quickly became enemies with Robin, who was abhored by his disloyalty and betrayal of the Emperor in order to eventually create "paradise". Kalrow, on the other hand, views Robin as a fool for his/her unwillingness to take more drastic measures in order to create a better world.
  • Members of the House of Swords have shown an interest in testing Kalrow's swordsmanship skills after having heard that he's a master swordsman, even though he's never actually been seen displaying such skills.
  • "With no plan, there is no victory. The age of beasts has long since ended."

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
No. 1 Entourage Fanboy
#135205: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:39:40 AM

@Hamana: Bazzard got his own stuff to deal with; if he wants some Transformers profiles, I'll be happy to give them to him. Also, I do know some Transformers so bear with me at least.

By popular demand, here's the first draft of Ritsuka! I'll repost it with Fate's Angra next page.

No-[tup]s mode

The Master of Chaldea, Deity of Mobile Phone Games (Master, Ritsuka Fujimaru, Gudao, Gudako)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/goprotagonist.png
Their usual appearances.

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...
Siegfried1337 Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard from the Ashes Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Unofficial co-Wiki Curator for Magnificent Bastard
#135206: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:43:13 AM

(Insert joke about Barbatos here)

MB Pending | MB Drafts | MB Dates
EclipseMT Summoner. Or something. from Illinois Since: Oct, 2014
Summoner. Or something.
#135207: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:47:40 AM

I am actually not for Octavio to ascend because of his personality change in the dub.

It is only something that NA would get (think of EU, guys!).

Edited by EclipseMT on Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:48:07 AM

EclipseMT/MendicantECT/729MT. Steam gamer, summoner, and outright everything else
louisent31 I’m here to do something from Chaldea Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
I’m here to do something
#135208: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:47:45 AM

[up][up]I don't think they will get that reference. Or is it just me?

[up]Finally, somebody responded at my proposal! I mean, it's a disaproval but at least it's something!

Edited by louisent31 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 10:48:47 PM

Just a sad, lonely girl
M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#135209: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:50:19 AM

Pretty sure Gudua is Intermediate, that’s the go-to level for those who did insane things but can’t go higher

Stephen and Lucy Steel, Divine Representatives of Marriages Between Elderly and Minors (Steven Steel, Lucy Pendleton)

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#135210: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:53:28 AM

[up]I though he should stay at Lesser or probably Demi because despite the fact he has 100% compatibility as a master, he is very shitty at magecraft. I mean, like the rest of the general public of the Nasuverse, he doesn't know the existence of magecraft and all that stuff until he joined Chaldea.

[down]I tend to forget that there are Fate fans that actually know their own memes. And I agree with you with Ritsuka staying at that rank.

Edited by louisent31 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 10:58:25 PM

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#135211: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:55:32 AM

@Louisent: That's okay, I got the reference. Maybe DC's Barbatos do have those Forbidden Pages...

@M1gami: Eh, making Ritsuka Intermediate is a reeally big stretch so he's Lesser to compromise that and his actual combat prowess (which is Demi).

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#135212: Apr 22nd 2019 at 7:57:05 AM

I think with the Light of Ruin in the Pantheon, I'm gonna rework Saiou from being under its control by default to taking into account the events of Season 4, making him a Neutral person still willing to do unspeakable things for his loved ones (his sister in this case).

Approvals?

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#135213: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:00:50 AM

I still want a reference that anybody who’s Ritsuka’s Servant will be a nicer person at least to them

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#135214: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:10:12 AM

[up]Because he's totally interesting (he technically meant to be a blank slate in the game, and as much I love Gudao. I rolled my eyes everytime someone like Ishtar said that).

I gotta be honest with you, I don't like it when every single servant quickly took a Ritsuka (I mean, it kinda makes sense but...) and it's something I actually don't want it to be referenced (but it's just me). It's why I love characters like Jalter and Consort Yu (aside from her being such a Broken Bird). And no, Columbus doesn't count because he's an asshole to Ritsuka and he's intentionally meant to be hated (at least that's what I heard from his interludes).

Which is saying something because we love characters like Kiara and Goetia (but at least they have interesting qualities that made us like them)

If it does get reference, well I'm actually okay with that. I still want to see how the Servants interact with him (and I do mean all of them, but it's just my opinion and it would make Gudao's profile way too long considering the abundant of Servants in the game and it would be a waste if most of them are from FGO and only a small portion arel from other franchises)

Edited by louisent31 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 11:20:47 PM

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#135215: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:13:01 AM

Sakura Matou being stable? Not sure about that chief. She seems happy, not stable.

So starting tomorrow, are all veteran fighters of MK fair game for reworking/ascending? Outside of the 4 newcomers of course.

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#135216: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:20:16 AM

@The Wikia Editor Looks all ready to go! [tup]

Edited by DVB on Apr 22nd 2019 at 11:20:33 AM

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#135217: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:21:30 AM

[up]You're not ready to post your profile?

Also, assuming that I got approval on working on Shank considering the responses I got. Is it a good idea to mention Slaughter Race in her interactions like with other deities (especially those that are racers or involved in violent races)? I did that to expand more on her interactions and I kinda want to make an effort, but Slaughter Race is not like a domain here. Is it okay to mention it at all?

Edited by louisent31 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 11:42:38 PM

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#135218: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:45:16 AM

[up] Yeah, I'm ready with Leonardo, barring just needing to get an image of him with his eyes up.

I was just wondering if there was any feedback or if it's all good.

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#135219: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:53:29 AM

@nightelf I don't know. I would think having Light of Destruction be in the pantheon would actually support keeping Saiou under its possession.

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#135220: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:55:48 AM

@Muun You forgot to mention that Iri would show photos of Shiro to girls. Don't worry, I'm adding it.

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#135221: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:02:22 AM

[up][up]How about giving Leonardo this image or this one◊ or this one◊?

[down] It's not uncommon to post a picture of the character in their "default" state (i.e. Leonardo with his eyes closed) and then another picture under it with the character's power(s) activated.

Edited by TheWikiaEditor on Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:11:05 AM

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#135222: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:07:06 AM

@The Wikia Editor Those are good, but I just need one with his eyes, so maybe more of a close up of his face with his eyes opened. I used what we had on here for his folder on the BBB character page

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#135223: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:09:31 AM

@Muun: I think there could be an interaction with Mr. Peabody & Sherman for Ritsuka. Peabody & Sherman travel through time for fun and meet up with historical figures and learn about history.

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#135224: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:44:06 AM

I am just going to ask rather than post the profile again for the sake of not wanting to unecessarily flood the forum. Are there any suggestions for Huang Lee? Chinese who have encountered the triads? Any potential relationships? Etc.

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#135225: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:54:45 AM

Well, here it is with pictures and so on! I'm quite proud and confident with it!

Leonardo Watch, Divine Wielder of True Sight (Leo, Tortoise Knight)

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  • Rank: Quasideity (though with the vision of at least a Greater God)
  • Symbol: His All-Seeing Eyes of the Gods
  • Theme Song: Tortoise Knight, though Hello,World! also works. Alternately, most well-known for Haikyuu!!
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Determinator, The Everyman, True Sight, I Know Your True Name, Cowardly Lion, Camera Fiend, Big Brother Instinct, Eyes Always Shut, Non-Action Guy, Living MacGuffin, Distressed Dude
  • Domains: Divine Sight, Photography, Siblings
  • Herald: His pet Mach Monkey, Sonic
  • Allies: Peter Parker/Spider Man, Dipper and Mabel Pines, Agents Scully and Mulder, Shawn Spencer, Scott Pilgrim, Kamina and Simon, Madoka Kaname, all good older siblings, really most Good-aligned heroes, The SCP Foundation, The Men In Black
  • Enemies: Bill Cipher, Dimentio, The Anti-Spiral, Mard Geer, really just evil individuals in general
  • Odd Friendship: Uatu The Watcher, Shinji Ikari, Lanaya
  • Opposes: The Global Occult Coalition
  • Wary of: Hermaeus Mora
  • The relative quiet of the Pantheon was interrupted with the sounds of several far-off explosions and out into the Main House arrived a slighly singed but unharmed young man. Initially unremarkable, he gathered everyone's attentions when he opened his eyes, reveal strange electric blue orbs, and he was able to point out several massive things about the place. After calming down, he would introduce himself as Leonardo Watch and it would be revealed his eyes are actually the All-Seeing Eyes of the Gods, capable of being able to see the true nature of things. Given how his series is defined by him observing everything and seeing the truth of things, Leonardo Watch became the Divine Wielder of True Sight.
  • He has a complicated view of his eyes. He got them during a visit to the city with his family. Time stopped and a powerful entity offered these Eyes of the Gods to either of them, with the stiupulation the other would be blind. Micheala, his wheelchair bound sister, offered her eyes. Thus, she was blinded and Leo was left with his godly eyes, an incredible amount of guilt, and a determination to try and find someone to heal his sister.
  • After getting over the shock of the Pantheon, he grew quite used to it. However, what intrigued everyone was on the how and why. Three years prior to the start of his story, New York City became fused with that of an alternate reality, resulting in the merging of human and alien lifeforms. Combine this with the presence of werewolf and vampire-like entities drawn like moths to a bonfire to the massive chaos and the result was Hellsalem's Lot, a massive city of weird phenomenon that people have gotten used to, on the inside.
  • His Temple is pretty modest, resembling his apartment room though he is grateful that he does not have to worry about damages, at least not as much.
  • His miraculous eyes being able to see anything quickly made him the target for alot of malevolent or amoral parties, especially given how normal he is otherwise. However, he would qickly come to befriend Spider-Man, who helped save him. Given how Spidey is also a misfortunate young man given great powers that come with great responsability and haunted by regrets alongside with viewing New York as home, they bonded quickly. Peter's also one of the few Leo openly trusts to examine his eyes.
  • He would come to befriend others, such as the Pines Twins, who are able to empathize with him over living in a wonderful town of weird. Mabel thinks his eyes are amazing while Dipper also thinks his gift to see is nifty. They also respect the heck out of him for his devotion to his younger sister as well as both wondering what could've happened had the entity offered something like that to them, especially with the rammification of being blind.
    • Unsurprisingly, this led to Leo once protecting them from Bill Cipher, who was stalking them. This quickly earned an enmity between the two. Bill dismisses Leo for the most part, but finds his eyes pretty interesting, though he finds him boring. Leo meanwhile sees him much like the Femt back at his homeworld as a hackeyed nut who kicks people around for jokes. Leo's experiences means he cannot be tricked by Bill and he can see him whenever he possesses someone or even when just in the Dreamscape.
  • Having gotten close to the Grand United Alliance of Good, he was able to befriend more good people. Investigators with interests in the supernatural like Agents Mulder and Scully have been helping him and relying on his eyes. Shawn Spencer in particular is impressed by Leo and has been helping him in better using his eyes to analyze things. They also tend to have lunch together alot.
  • Looking to find something to replace his X-Station, he would go into the House of Gaming and he would end up befriending Scott Pilgrim of all people. Both of them are seemingly unimpressive people with remarkable capabiltiies, a shared interest in gaming, living in modest conditions, confronting feelings of cowardice and of course, living in pretty messed up worlds. Scott helps serve to protect Leo while asking questions about his eyes.
  • Leonardo earned the respect of Kamina and Simon when they saw him save the world in the final episode of the first season of his show. Leonardo quoted his boss, Klaus, regarding on unbreakability of the human spirit as long as you try and move toward the light. The fact he screamed this out in the open in a display of hot-bloodedness moved them and became fast friends. Leo is meanwhile in awe of Simon and Kamina and hopes they could somehow help heal his sister. Kamina welcomes the challenge in defying fate, which extended to divine contracts and considers bringing Shiron into this.
    • Through Simon, Leo has also befriended Shinji. Leo sees much of himself in Shinji in terms of lack of confidence and having repressed rage, though he also has plenty of concern over just what the kid went through. Shinji meanwhile is awed by how Leo can keep moving forward even if frozen in place. This combined with how relatable he found Leo began giving Shinji more courage.
    • Aditionally, he also met Madoka through Simon and both bonded over being Hope bringers while he came to see her as another little sistet of sorts. As such, he promises to help her however he could. Even if she were to ascend beyond existence, he would still see her through his eyes.
  • Given how valuable his eyes would be in law enforcement and investigation, it would be little surprise that various agencies approached Leo to have him ally with them and to serve as correspondent to Libra should they ever ascend. Leo is pretty wary around the Men in Black and especially the SCP, but he still helps them out. He prefers the SCP over the Global Occult Coalition, who he finds would be the same sort of untrustworthy people who would attack Hellsalem's Lot without consideration for the non-humans there.
    • This has led to Leo to getting a confrontation with a certain individual, Dr. Alto Clef. After Clef nearly broke Leo's camera (it was saved at the last minute by Sonic's quickness), he tried to antagonize the kid a little regarding his eyes. However, both were surprised as Leo's eyes were in fact, capable of looking past Clef's head trick and actually get a glimpse of him. However, the intensity began hurting Leo's eyes. Clef meanwhile was stymied someone was able to actually see his true form and has been wary of the kid whenever he aids the SPC.
  • Besides Bill Cipher, Leo has butted heads (often literally, given how it's a reoccuring tactic of his) with Dimentio (who he sees as a worse version of someone like Bill Cipher or Femt), the Anti-Spiral (they remind him too much of the King of Despair with their nihilism and willingness to use peoples' loved ones) and Mard Geer (who cannot believe a normal human got a godlike gift and that his eyes allow Leo to see his weakness and even more or less counter Memento Mori since Leo can act as a tether of sorts because Mard Geer's Curse could not overcome the divine craftsmanship of the Eyes.)
  • Hermaeus Mora has expressed interest in Leo'e eyes, but Leo is just reminded of the crazy doctor who kidnapped him and threatened his sister for his eyes. As such, he stays as far as he can from him, using his eyes to do so. Mora just finds it interesting and has tried to tempt Leo with knowledge that could help his sister. Leo has not listened, but Mora thinks it's fated that the young man will come to him.
  • With the revelation that his eyes were bestowed on him because the God in question, Liga El Metahiut, chose him to see and record the events of humanity's interaction with the extradimentional. It turns out Leo is the latest in a long line of people offered the Eyes of the Gods to examine world-changing evenets, such as the rise and fall of Hitler or humanity arriving on the moon. to Metahiut, humanity's interaction with the extradimensional was the pinnacle of Earth history and Leo was the one chosen. As such, Uatu the Watcher feels a kinship regarding their shared roles and talks to him on occasion. Uatu does wish he could affect things, even in small things, the way Leo does.
  • Despite being friends with pretty powerful people, it's still pretty stressful on how Leo has been the target of attacks. As such, he ended up hiring a bodyguard of sorts... Lanaya of all people. Her unbridled thirst for mysteries and truths meant she was giddy at the thought of Leo's All-Seeing Eyes of the Gods As such, he was willing to accompany her on her searches while she acts as a bodyguard to him. They ended up striking up an Odd Friendship.
  • Beyond his job as being an agent of Libra, his other job is that of a photographer so he often spends time taking pictures of the various people of the Pantheon. As such, he spents alot of time in the House of Crafts working on his photos and interracting with his fellow artists. Some of the folk there do admire his eyes, especially given how the eyes are literally divine craftsmanship.
  • The end credits of his show's first season is very popular to say the least. So much that inspired a lot of members of the Pantheon decided to give it a try.

Edited by DVB on Apr 22nd 2019 at 12:55:04 PM


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