Trope Pantheons Discussion

By attempting to merge the entire Godfrey/Marika bloodline into one profile, you are creating a profile more bloated than the Masaki House and the Phantom Thieves of Hearts combined. I shouldn't even mention that the expansion might even add more to their lore which is just going to cause more issues in the long run so no to a group profile.

The difference is that I only write ideas if and only if the hype dies down (by this point, Elden Ring is just a tough cookie to wait till the hype is dead). I had Elden Ring waiting on my Pantheon backlog, but I'd not risk a whole hype debacle just for certain picks. That being said, given my expertise in Souls, I'd like to take on Elden Ring myself (unless, god forbid, I'd have to let you take Morgott and Ranni in exchange that I do the rest). In addition, while Broken-System Dogmatist is okay for him, wouldn't Honor Thy Abuser work as well given his Omen origins?

If we're going to be transparent coming from your statement "Finally, I did check to see if anyone held any ideas from the game when I wrote down my ideas in my sandbox via the related tab and I don't think your sandbox turned up. The only one with an Elden Ring idea came from RJ, who penned the Dung Eater for Wants to Be Hated.", that means all our ideas has to be within our sandbox, otherwise issues like these will arise, but even such an idea would not be well-received by others here, who also have ideas past the sandbox, like how Crownless has mentioned several times he has a word file filled with various ideas.

One final nitpick I have is that your suggested tropes for Ranni and Godfrey are contentious. Super-Strength has a lot of candidates to consider and so does Romance Sidequest, not to mention Ranni isn't exactly a romantic character like say various RPG characters, hence why the ideas I have in mind are specific and nothing too general, otherwise there would be countersuggestions.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Jun 6th 2023 at 3:30:16 AM

For now, I think we should just stay silent about Elden Ring until some time passes after the release of Shadow of the Erdtree. It's best that we pay more attention to the stuff that we have approved now and complete those. To add to that, I've placed the game in the Hype Prevention Sandbox with a 3-month long wait after the DLC expansion's release.

I'll be honest, I don't exactly disagree with your criticism regarding choices and I do agree that a group profile for the demigods would not be sustainable. Finding a trope for Godfrey and Ranni proved harder than I thought and I went with the ones that I felt were the easiest to find that either weren't taken or could prove a viable replacement. Though I do think Godfrey is a great example of Super-Strength and a good reason is sufficient enough for him to be a good replacement, regardless of whether said trope is a common one, but that's beside the point.

I got next to no feedback for this and I only have so many ideas on my own so posting it again to see what happens. Please don't reiterate Hisao Nakai, I'm already aware of that.

Vincent Anton Freeman, God of the Borrowed Biometric Bypass (Jerome Eugene Morrow)

• Quasideity
• Symbol: Space shuttles, fingernails, eyelashes, the moon Titan
• Alignment: True Neutral
• Portfolio: Naturally-born with a slew of potential health problems in a world of Designer Babies, dreams of being an astronaut, job prospects ruined by Rapid DNA Test, but he said Screw Destiny and went on to Pursue the Dream Job by using someone else's samples, nearly blows his cover when he becomes suspected of murder, ultimately more successful than his genetically engineered brother, Zeerust
• Domains: Eugenics, Underdogs, Space Travel
• Allies: Ruben Stone, Black Jack, Kira Yamato
• Enemies:
• Vincent was born into a world where genetic selection made it possible to have babies with the specific hereditary characteristics desired by the parents, while erasing any potential downsides. Vincent was naturally conceived, leaving his genetic traits up to chance; consequently, his prognosis included myopia, several mental disorders, a heart condition and a life expectancy of 30 years. Despite that, Vincent nurtured a dream: becoming an astronaut. Unfortunately, his society practiced genetic discrimination (regardless of it being technically illegal) and so the best he could hope for was a janitor job at Gattaca Aerospace Corporation. However, Vincent found a workaround: through a very complex process, he adopted the identity of embittered, wheelchair-bound, former swimming star Jerome Morrow (who was in on it) and passed off his perfect genes as his own. Vincent got a job as navigator at Gattaca, getting selected for a mission to the moon Titan. But then, a Gattaca higher-up was found murdered and Vincent became the prime suspect when one of his eyelashes was found, nearly blowing his cover. He dodged authorities until the true culprit, the mission director, was found. Afterwards, he was finally able to depart to Titan, fulfilling his dream.
• As the shuttle passed by Titan, Vincent suddenly found himself on the moon's surface without so much as a space suit, somehow, as though he was in a dream, which he assumed was the case. Since he might as well, he walked around and contemplated the rocky, desolate landscape while reflecting on all the events that led him there, until he chanced upon a very monolith-like doorway to seemingly nowhere. He went through it because, again, might as well, and his surroundings changed completely to a very different kind of place, much to his surprise. He took his time exploring this place too, introducing himself with his borrowed identity of Jerome Morrow to be safe, or maybe out of habit. At some point he was detained by some cops, who asked him to come along and he did so, not seeing a way out of this. He was brought to the Main House, whose mysterious inhabitants called him by his true name of Vincent Freeman, making him break out in a cold sweat. He was then congratulated for the very intricate way in which he borrowed someone else's identity and offered deification for it, catching Vincent completely off-guard. At any rate, the details were hashed out (including making Vincent sure he knew this wasn't a dream) and he accepted his title; he still retains his drive to explore space and outer worlds, after all.
• Due to his high likelihood to develop a serious heart disease, the House of Health and Diseases keeps him on their watchlist and he often has to check in with them, which naturally led to him making some close friends there. Chief among them is Ruben Stone, who had ambitions of becoming a metal drummer that got derailed as he found himself slowly becoming deaf. Given Vincent was told his entire life that his dream of going to space was impossible on account of his many genetic problems and it was practically a stroke of luck and a lot of illegality that made it feasible for him, he can sympathize with Ruben's tragic fate, though he also wants to believe it is not entirely over for him, given he does have his cochlear implants. However, Ruben seems to have come to terms that his condition means forfeiting his dream and he's not really interested in going back on that resolution or following Vincent's example. Ruben does admire Vincent's resolution to pursue his dream despite everything and is rooting for him, but he thinks it can't happen for himself; the nature of their disabilities (or "disabilities" in Vincent's case) is simply too different.
• In the Pantheon, the knowledge of Vincent's conditions is easily accessed by any deity who cares to know, whether he likes it or not. Even so, when it comes to doctors, Vincent prefers those that won't disclose any sensitive information about his health that could compromise his career, causing him to favor back-alley sorts like Black Jack. The doctor with the skin-grafted face is more than happy to assuage Vincent's fears, so long as he knows it'll cost him a pretty penny. Fortunately for Vincent, he's learned to compensate for that pretty penny through his underground dealings; you don't sustain a borrowed identity 24/7 without learning some useful tricks.
• He comes from a world where he was discriminated against for not being genetically enhanced, so he has reason to be very much against the whole notion of Designer Babies and eugenics. Those who agree with him feel that Vincent is living proof of genetic engineering being a faulty science, given he was one of the best at his dream job regardless of any undesirable traits he might have had. With that said, Vincent realizes demonizing all Designer Babies is idiotic (his brother, girlfriend and patron are part of them, after all) and he went on to befriend some he met in the Pantheon, such as Kira Yamato, rather ironically since Kira is extra-special even compared to the typical Designer Babies in his universe. Despite that, Vincent could respect Kira for valuing the lives of both Naturals (people like Vincent) and Coordinators (people like Kira) equally and adopting a pacifistic stance in a horrific war that pitted the two factions against each other, choosing to wield his supreme weapon, the Gundam, mainly as a deterrent. If Vincent is honest, this makes him wonder whether his own world might be on the verge of a similar conflict with the way people like him are kept in inferior conditions.

He wants to become an astronaut? While I currently can't find any current astronauts, Gentaro Kisaragi's Kamen Rider suits and powers are themed after astronauts, so he might be interested in him.

Robert Capa went into space to revitalize the dying sun.

Poland cannot into space, so he might relate to the countryball, as his naturally born body was a big obstacle to realizing his dreams of going into space.

Speaking of Alliterative Family, I was thinking that the Loud Siblings could have that trope, as all of the siblings names start with L, and combined with their last names being Loud, their initials are LL.

Also, I won't mind if Paragus was removed.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jun 5th 2023 at 3:27:41 AM

Is Semi-Divine taken? That might be a good catch-all for the Elden Rings demigods

@ Crimson Shark: Also I don't mind getting rid of Paragus now that you've given a good reason to do so. Any other franchises you feel could do with a clean?

Wait, are Elden Ring Demigods actually hybrids between gods and mortals or just powerful beings (ex. Asura)?

Menace@ Sadly that would leave out the parents, but On the Loud Kids getting the trope.

Edited by WhirlRX on Jun 5th 2023 at 7:48:38 AM

So Tropers/Shinobi has recently given me the all clear to adopt their idea for the melding of Galacta Knight and Dark Meta Knight with the un-ascended Morpho Knight. Here is what it's for:

Dark Meta Knight, Galacta Knight, and Morpho Knight, The Warring Triad of Similarly Designed Nemesises

Overdeities as a Whole (Dark Meta Knight is a Greater God, Galacta Knight is a Greater God, bordering on Overdeity normally, and a full-on Overdeity as the Aeon Hero, Morpho Knight is a full-on Overdeity)

Does this look good?

Give a reasoning for why they should have the trope

Where's Tony Montana in the Trope Pantheon? Any necromancers or invisibility wielders who would consider Sports Maxx worth their time?

Antonio Trussardi, God of Medicinal Cuisine (Tonio Trussardi, Trendy, Birth name: Antonio Volpe )

• Halls: TBA (House of Food), Healers (House of Health and Diseases)
• Demigod
• Symbol: His Stand, Pearl Jam^note looks like a cross between tomatoes and pearl onions
• Theme Song: Italian Restaurant
• Alignment: Neutral Good
• Portfolio: Supreme Chef, Nice Guy, His Stand Can Make Healing Food, Though It Has Some Gross Side-Effects, Was Suspected Of Secret Nefariousness Because Of That, Healing Magic Is the Hardest, Magic A Is Magic A, Panacea, Even His Mineral Water Is Amazing, Don't Be Rude And DON'T Be Unhygenic, Personality Powers, Face of a Thug, Getting His Backstory Explored In Secondary Material
• Domains: Cuisine, Healing, Kindness, Professionalism, Cleanliness, Stands
• Allies: Josuke Higashikata, Okuyasu Nijimura, Takumi Aldini, Gordon Ramsey, Toriko and Komatsu, Harlon David Sanders, Popeye, Spongebob Squarepants, Princess Bubblegum, Florence Nightingale, Anthony Chu
• On good terms with: Anton Ego, Doge, Philip J Fry, any of the House of Physicians not named Fabius Bile, Dr Moreau, Qyburn, Nurse Ratched or the Medic
• On speaking terms with: Squidward Tentacles, Bucciarati's gang
• Friendly Rivalry with: Remy
• Enemies: Yoshikage Kira, Sheldon J Plankton, The Mafia of Cooks, Unhygienix, "Big" Jack Horner, Brand X, Thrax, Nurgle, Typhus, Carter Pewterschmidt, The Noid, Archibald Penelope Snatcher, Diavolo
• On poor terms with: Pannacotta Fugo
• Antonio Trussardi was born a member of a wealthy Italian family, however he desired to be a chef for the pleasure of others. His family forbade him from pursuing his dream, leading to him running away from home and becoming a master of the culinary arts. A native of Naples, he set shop in Morioh. He's a Stand User and his Stand Pearl Jam initially seems nefarious, as it causes body deformations such as a dog throwing up its intestines. Josuke thought he was evil, but it turns out these deformations are painless and whoever has the food goes right back to normal afterwards. Or rather, their health improves. So while gross, his food corrects poor health. However he needs to know the symptoms in order to get the healing process right. He's one of few to get his Stand purely by self-training; namely his passion for cooking.
• Antonio Trussardi's ascension was thanks to Josuke and Okuyasu promoting his restaurant with glowing reviews, who also were good enough to warn him that the serial killer hiding in Morioh was up to his usual tricks again. Antonio prefers to go by Tonio, though will occasionally use Trendy to avoid lawsuits. With how almost memetic villains hurting dogs are in his world, Doge was skeptical and wanted to be the first newcomer to test it. He burst his intestines, but felt better than new afterwards and his dysentery was cured. His review was that "it was wacky and uncharacteristic, but delicious and nutritious. 9/10 would try again".
• As he needs to know the symptoms and can't just use any ingredient, Tonio initially couldn't find the right healing meal for anyone in the Trope Pantheon who's species doesn't exist in his universe (or at least isn't well-known, like Gengar the ghost). He intends to remedy this by studying in the House of Knowledge. However he does still make really good food, so he can still make really delicious food for most pantheon species. Due to the medicinal qualities of his food, Princess Bubblegum has sought him out in order to study Pearl Jam. Having constructed her people out of candy, she wants to see if the effects of Tonio's Stand could help her people. The Italian cook is happy to help as he's interested in her own achievements, along with the fact she's apparently a candy elemental.
• While he can't promise to be able to fix every human deity's ailment, he'll at least try. However it's important to remember that Pearl Jam fixes, not amplifies bodies; he can't make you superhumanly resistant or immune to things. As on his own he's a normal human, Snatcher tried kidnapping him and force him to make a meal that'd cure his cheese allergy. Tonio might've complied had a) he not a lot of despicable actions beforehand and b) didn't try kidnapping him. Most deities who are not reprehensible will still get their meal without complaint. The Hall of Physicians was impressed by how, say, he was able to make chicken soup an instant cure for cold. Florence Nightingale has asked for his assistance in making hospital food for her patients. Tonio is generally on good terms with the non-wicked physicians and he finds their expertise on medical conditions very useful to his usage of Pearl Jam.
• He specializes in Italian food, so he's not as good when making fry food or sweets. That's not to say they don't taste damn good, since again this is a man who made mineral water delicious, but he gets outclassed in those areas by some other deities. Tonio was quite impressed by the Krabby Patty he tried at the Krusty Krab, admitting he hasn't made a burger that good in a while. Tonio is quite fond of Spongebob because of his cheery personality, passion for life and love for his job, however he really wishes that he just left the Krusty Krab because his true potential is wasted under a cheapskate like Mr Krabs. He has no idea how the crustacean could come up with the secret ingredients. Despite his awful fry food he feels Squidward is also wasting his potential in part (the other part being his Pride) working there, since when Squidward baked him a dessert he found the cephalopod has talent in food he actually wants to cook.
• Another surprise in food he found was the time Bender baked a cake. Normally he's awful at cooking because he lacks a sense of taste, but when he follows the recipe to the letter it works. Tonio tried taking him on to teach him how to follow his specific recipes, but had to let him go because he was causing a mess in the kitchen whenever he experimented or left empty beer cans around the place. Fry is also a slob, however he can be trusted as a delivery boy and Tonio has let him make some extra cash doing so. He was interested to learn about the Human Popsicle and his own bizarre stories. Tonio was put off by the lack of professionalism Panucci's had, but otherwise finds Fry to be a good man.
• Is French, or Italian food greater? This is a debate he often gets into with Remy the rat. Anton Ego has critiqued both of their food and admitted it is hard for him to determine who should get the higher vote. Tonio at least doesn't have any rats to deal with, though he prefers not to bring that up for fear of "kicking down low" in his Friendly Rivalry with Remy. Antonio Trussardi was quite pleased to learn about an Italian food aficionado was found in the Hall of Nationalities; Takumi Aldini. Tonio makes fast friends with really good chefs, having gotten glowing reviews from Gordon Ramsey, Toriko and Komatsu. Popeye was tantalized by the prospect of Trussardi's cooking and came to really enjoy his spinach, making sure to keep the leftovers for a special occasion. On another note, he bad for Anthony Chu for his cibopathy and all the terrible stuff he has to eat. He'd love to make something to cure it, but alas he doesn't know enough to make the right recipe. However he was able to experiment and make a variety of beet-only dishes. He was overjoyed to find how creative Tonio was able to get with a single vegetable, and has become a regular customer ever since.
• Being the Supreme Chef that he is, Tonio isn't happy whenever he sees the exact opposite. For the most part he doesn't get in a row with them (and as mentioned some are only bad in specific cases), but when they antagonize him he's going to antagonize them back. He called out Plankton for his awful food by pointing out that if he wanted to make serious cash he could make a killing off his inventions, which the plankton angrily went "that's not the point! I need to beat Krabs at his own game!". Plankton plans to steal and analyze Tonio's food in hopes of recreating Pearl Jam, ignorant to the fact that's not how Stands work. He has an ax to grind at the Mafia of Cooks for just how awful their cooking as well. He also doesn't like the Noid, because he doesn't like how he ruins people's pizzas and like any good Italian that pisses him off!
• He truly loves his job as a cook. Him and Colonel Sanders may have very different cooking styles, but they both belief in hard work, dedication to your craft and absolutely and not doing things the easy way. This passion is arguably the only thing the two shares in common with Jack Horner; evil as he is always makes sure his pies are top notch. And gleefully evil that he is, Jack plans to force Tonio into Indentured Servitude to help make his pies and other food for his business. He intends to turn him into a member of the Baker's Dozen and learn more about Stands so he can gain one, which is not something Tonio would ever want. The only other thing they share is a distaste for Brand X. The brand's desire to sell their awful products gives them an envious chip on their shoulder for any Supreme Chef, and they plot to review bomb his restaurant in a vain attempt to look better by comparison.
• He is absolutely infuriated to learn that Carter Pewterschmidt has developed the cure for cancer and refuses to share it for the sake of making a profit on chemotherapy. Never mind he would arguably make more money and prestige selling it, It's Personal for Tonio as his girlfriend had cancer. He had to search for an incredibly rare abalone to get rid of her tumor. Antonio Trussardi is a big believer in kitchen hygiene, which is why he is contemptuous of Nurgle and his ilk, and Thrax. Granted there's plenty of reasons to oppose them, but Nurgle loves filth and Thrax was contracted by exploiting bad health and unhygenic conditions. Despite also being good-aligned, Tonio cannot stand Unhygienex due to his Berserk Button.
• His birth name is Antonio Volpe; his brother Massimo was part of Passione as a narcotics manufacturer and found himself on the bad end of Pannacotta Fugo trying to clean up drugs. While Antonio doesn't have it in him to hate towards Fugo they were still family. Bucciarati's gang has told them they mean nothing personally by it and are trying to clean up Italy, which Tonio is alright with. He wants to see Diavolo pay like them because he feels he was The Corrupter to his brother, along with being a piece of work in general.

Sports Maxx, God of Identifiable Invisibility (Sports Maximum)

• Hall: Disguises (House of Costumes)
• Lesser God (Intermediate as a zombie under the influence of Limp Bizkit)
• Symbol: His Stand Disc, or fancy suit
• Theme Song: Reanimate
• Alignment: Neutral Evil
• Portfolio: Arch-Enemy to Ermes Due To Killing Her Sister, Token Motivational Nemesis, Wields Invisible Zombies That Can Be Identifiable To The Audience Or Opaque Liquid Spilled On Them, Necromancer, Functional Addict, Faux Affably Evil, A Despicable Opponent That Pretends To Be A Model Prisoner, Icy Blue Eyes, Unusual Eyebrows, Just As Sexist As Dio, Foul Mouthed Criminal, Functional Addict
• Domains: Gangsters, Hedonism, Prisoners, Zombies, Invisibility
• Interests: SCP-049
• Allies
  • Business associates: Enrico Pucci, Ungalo, La Squadra Esecuzioni, Al Capone, Tony Montana, Walter White
  • Other allies: Griffin (The Invisible Man), Manfred Von Karma
• On good terms with: The Hall of Organized Crime
• Enemies
  • Arch-Enemy: Ermes Costello
  • Fellow Jojo deities: Jolyne Cujoh, Weather Report, Foo Fighters, Jotaro Kujo
  • Other enemies: The Phantom Thieves of Heart, Sae Niijima, Marie Kobel, Nadia Fortune, Light Yagami, Frank Castle, The Great Mighty Poo, Wright Anything Agency
• Opposed by: The House of Law and Justice, Thel 'Valdem, Harry Potter
• Fears: Nekron, Nagash, Tartarus, SCP-049
• Wary of: Dio Brando, Bucciarati's Gang
• Sports Maxx was one of the inmates of the Green Dolphin Street Prison, having been a car dealer by trade and a gangster in private. Despite having over forty counts of various crimes, including the murder of Ermes Costella's sister Gloria due to being a witness to another murder, he was busted on racketeering and given a lenient sentence. Though he acts the model prisoner, this is just in hopes of getting parole. Sports Maxx is a misogynistic, violent hedonist who benefited from getting a Stand Disc from Enrico Pucci. Not because he liked them, but as part of the Heaven plan. He would be confronted by Ermes in prison and was unapologetic about his crimes. She managed to kill him, and despite returning as a zombie he was put to rest via removing his Stand Disc.
• Sports Maxx is aware that many find the name of his Stand impossible to take seriously, especially if one of the dub names is used (Flaccid Pancake; really?). However this hides the danger it causes; he can summon inaudible, invisible zombies from nearby corpses that are only visible either by being coated in some opaque liquid like blood, or by the person reading the manga/watching the anime (though not at first). Even if he dies he can come back as an invisible and inaudible zombie, mentally unchanged except with the craving for blood and brains. Instead of respawning like most do in the Trope Pantheon, he will become this invisible zombie and he needs to be pummeled hard enough for the Stand Disc to fall out.
• Though his zombies are invisible, possibly even doubly invisible to non-Stand Users, there are those like Superman and Heimdall who's super-sight is so good they can detect them. Since he's just a normal human gangster without the Stand, he's not stupid enough to antagonize them. In addition, while he can bring the dead back as zombies, it creates a ghostly copy of their corpse and whatever damage the zombie goes through gets reflected on the corpse. Any undead are fair game to be copied by virtue of technically being a corpse, but that risks antagonizing said undead. As such, he rarely touches the Halls of Unliving Beings or Zombies; a later experiment reveals the Limp Bizkit zombies don't gain any of the undead's powers.
• Sports Maxx was pleasantly surprised to learn he was fully alive when he entered the Trope Pantheon, but that joy soon became frustration that Ermes Costello and many of her friends were waiting for him. His defense of his actions (that her sister shouldn't have been near his "business" at the time) hasn't endeared him to anyone. Despite his fearsome reputation he doesn't actively participate unless he can be sure his opponents are at his mercy and outside of wanting to avenge both his deaths, the gangster prefers to not get involved with fellow Jojo deities...more out of pragmatism, and not having any lofty interest like Dio and Pucci's Heaven Plan. He's still begrudgingly thankful for the latter unlocking his Stand, but the former? He's intimidated by him, to be honest.
• His control of the dead makes him an honorary member of the House of Undead and Phasmata, and a tricky opponent to those who oppose the undead. He can't help any undead member by making them invisible and inaudible as Limp Bizkit only does that on corpses it raises, but he can bolster their numbers. However he rarely enters that House because he is terrified of two heavy hitters present; Nekron and Nagash. He considers them insane and is mortally afraid of them subverting his Stand's thralls (or even himself if he becomes a zombie) to their purposes. Because of how his Stand worked, Springtrap let Sports Maxx make an invisible zombie out of him since while animated he is technically a corpse. The result is an invisible form of William Afton's body inside the suit. Sports Maxx hasn't tried experimenting with other undead out of fear it might backfire, since the mauve murderer only did it basically as a favor/out of scientific curiosity.
• Because his Stand can work even as a member of the undead, Nekron is considering the option of a Black Lantern Sports Maxx, and so are others with power over necromancy. SCP-049 is intrigued by his invisible Stand zombies, and has stated that he wishes to study him and his Stand as he believes replicated the effect will have his own undead more effective helpers with invisibility as a power. Fortunately for many in the SCP Foundation Sports Maxx refuses to be anywhere near the Plague Doctor. He even had a nightmare where he was turned into an instance of SCP-049-2, still possessing the power of his Stand but becoming a full thrall instead of a Revenant Zombie. The gangster is also fearful of Tartarus; he doesn't want to be moved to a literal hellish prison, though he has reminded that you have to really be a dick for the Greek gods to send you there.
• Harry Potter and Thel 'Valdem aren't impressed by Sports Maxx in the slightest. They're heroic characters who utilize invisibility cloaks, so seeing someone reprehensible like Sports Maxx wear them isn't something they like to see. The enemy Stand user isn't interested in what they think, but he has wondered; if Stands are usually invisible to non-Stand users anyway, would the tricks to expose his Limp Bizkit zombies even work for them? Questions that the Invisible Man might solve. Being a criminal fiend and a Mad Scientist he decided to go along with Sports Maxx's mafia schemes in hopes somehow he can gain a Stand of his own. Sports Maxx wants him to make a variant of his serum that lets him be invisible without having to die and be zombified for it.
• Is decidedly not a neighborhood friendly gangster like Bucciarati's gang, and he can only imagine how awkward their interactions with Ermes might be. He's level-headed enough to know antagonizing them would be a poor decision, which is why he's not teaming up with Diavolo to climb the organized crime ladder (that and Diavolo has a reputation). Rather, he's joined La Squadra Esecuzioni, who are more willing to tolerate his nasty side. Due to their armistice with Bucciarati's gang, Sports Maxx may be hedging his bets. He also is working with Walter White and Tony Montana to get money via the drug trade, plus he himself likes to partake in their drugs. Being a junkie who was closer allied to Pucci, Ungalo was offered some parties and blow in exchange for some loyalty to Sports Maxx
• While Frank Castle has contempt towards gangsters in general, he really doesn't like Sports Maxx due to what he did to Ermes' sister. As his family were casualties of a gang war, the callousness in Sports Maxx's elimination of Gloria brings up bad memories. The "bad memories" is why Ms Fortune and Bloody Marie want him dead, as he is every bit as ruthless and unsympathetic as the Medici that ruined their lives. Sports Maxx only started caring when he realized they planned to go after him.
• The fact that he got a lighter sentence than he deserved is partly that he was a Villain with Good Publicity and a car dealer. Some have compared this to Al Capone getting busted on tax evasion. Sports Maxx noted that, as he has been working with Al Capone for "business reasons". He's good at the whole charming criminal facade. Also, he rigged the trial for a lighter sentence. The House of Law and Justice wasn't proud of that one, nor the fact that he's only trying to act in good behavior to get parole. Realizing he may need to rethink his scheme, he has asked Manfred Von Karma to act as his attorney and in return he can expected to be paid handsomely...and his men will try to get rid of some of his enemies to sweeten the deal. Phoenix Wright and his friends were appalled at this.
• Light Yagami sees Sports Maxx as validation on why he should kill criminals even when they're in jail. Unlike some who pointed to Kira being far more dangerous than Sports Maxx, the Stand gangster couldn't care about his justice spiel and just wants to avoid having another hit on him. The Phantom Thieves of Heart, however, believe what he really needs is his heart stolen. He's not someone like Dio who knows what he is or some non-human being so he absolutely has a Palace they could steal his heart (unless he's in zombie mode). Sae Niijima sees Sports Maxx as the kind of person who helped fuel her old cynical perspective on law, so she's all for it. The gangster would honestly prefer his name be written in the Death Note than deal with them.
• During his time in jail he has taken up the hobby of taxidermy. It foreshadows his necromancy skills, and kind of tells you he's not the most stable of fellows. Some think he and Brian Irons might get along with their shared hobby, and while Sports Maxx admits he could do with a Dirty Cop he considers Brian Irons a pervert. He also didn't appreciate a male inmate feeling up a female inmate so beat him up. He's hardly a pleasant person when not acting nice and has a habit of calling women "bitches", so this little moment of humanity hasn't endeared him to anyone.
• Not at all proud of how he died the first time, that being drowning in a sewage pipe. Anyone who says he "ate shit and died" will find themselves at the mouth end of invisible alligator zombies. Another way to make him angry is to ask him if he met the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on his way out. Bad memories are also the reason why he has a burning hatred for the Great, Mighty Poo so he flung a hoard of invisible flies on him. Sports Maxx eventually blew the whole thing off with some Hookers and Blow at the Succubus District. It's pretty typical of him, though even with the fact they're monster girls he still thinks he's too important to remember their name.

The link to Takumi Aldini's profile in Tonio's draft is broken.

Also, Tony Montana's profile is in the Hall of Words, having taken the Cluster F-Bomb trope.

Edited by Shinobi on Jun 5th 2023 at 5:05:57 AM

For Antonio, Peppino Spaghetti is also an Italian chef.

Alright! Sorry, never done this before.

Dark Meta Knight, Galacta Knight, and Morpho Knight, The Warring Triad of Similarly Designed Nemeses. The three knights are divergent clones of one of Kirby's original rivals named Meta Knight. Dark Meta Knight is a straightforward Evil Counterpart of Meta Knight due to being from the Mirror World and has effectively the same moveset. Later Galacta Knight turns up as the "Greatest Warrior in the Galaxy" whom Meta Knight makes a wish to face off and is effectively Meta Knight, crossed with an Archangel, right down to his moves being souped up versions of Meta Knight's boss in the same game. Morpho Knight is the latest baton pass who features a slightly greater degree of deviation than the other two due to a prominent Butterfly of Death and Rebirth motif being the Kirbyverse's Grim Reaper. Never the less, it still maintains the general design and attacks, even taking the unused appearance of Meta Knight in a canceled Game Cube Kirby Game. All three of them are basically EX versions of Meta Knight and after Kirby Super Star Ultra when fightable, they are exclusively post game superbosses.

Edit: Night Elf, I fixed it!

Edited by ForgoLight on Jun 5th 2023 at 8:41:06 AM

That sounds good.

It's June 6th, making it the 79th anniversary of Operation Overlord, the Allied Invasion of Normandy, France.

I'm also finally done with my rework of Baron Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist, the Big Bad of Medal of Honor: Frontline, the latter of which depicted the Omaha Beach landings on D-Day. Accepting approvals and possibly last-minute suggestions.

Hauptsturmführer Baron Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist, God of Aristocratic Nazis

^{In full dress uniform} 

• Lesser God
• Symbol: His Algemeine-SS uniform, and a StG44 assault rifle
• Themes: Sturmgeist's Armored Train and Escaping Gotha
• Alignment: Lawful Evil
• Domains: Nazis, Aristocrats, Secret Weapons Projects
• Portfolio: A German Baron, and a Hauptsturmfuhrer in the Waffen-SS, who uses his wealth to fund advanced weapons projects, A member of the German aristocracy, and very much an unrepentant Nazi, A high-ranking Waffen-SS officer who can give the likes of Jimmy Patterson a good fight, A Nazi fanatic, and not an inch of hair on his head, Uses the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle as his primary weapon, Wears a Waffen-SS officer's cap initially, before losing it when Patterson attacks his train, Spends most of his time fleeing from Patterson, only to finally prove himself to be a tough adversary upon being cornered by him, Dies guns blazing to Patterson, Noticeably old-looking, and is a Nazi, Being the final threat to Patterson before he can accomplish his mission, Fights alongside several dozen Luftwaffe and Waffen-SS personnel, His name translating to "Storm Ghost", Responsible for funding wonderweapons projects like the Ho.IX, Has "Von" in his name, and is a pretty dark example
• Allies:
  • Nazi Germany: Waffen Infantry, Waffen Officers, Waffen Senior Troopers, Waffen Storm Leaders, and Nazi Storm Elites, Heer Infanterie, 100th Panzer Battalion, Schutzvollstrecker, General Franz Vahlen, General Heinz Bohm, Valkyrie Jager, Operation "Kraken", Johann Schmidt, Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse, Arnold Ernst Toht, Nemesis, Major Erwin Konig
  • Other: HYDRA, Lt. Col. Arnold Berkman, Sophie, Dr. Rene Belloq, The Four Libertines, The Tediz, Adenoid Hynkel, Milleneum
• Enemies:
  • Allied Forces: Lt. Jimmy Patterson, Lt. Mike Powell, Sgt. Jack Barnes, Cpl. Boyd Travers, SSgt. Matthew Baker and SSgt. Joseph Hartsock, Pfc. Gary Jasper and Pfc. Timothy Connor, Sgt. Franklin Paddock, Lt. Randall and Sgt. Bill Taylor, Sgt. John Davis and Tank Commander David Welsh, Pvt. Robert Zussman, The Battlehawks, Easy Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th PIR, Major Winters and Captain Speirs, Captain Herbert Sobel, Charlie Company, 2nd Ranger Battalion, The Crew of Fury, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, The Basterds
  • Others: Steve Rogers, James Buchanan Barnes, Margaret Carter, Dr. Abraham Erskine, Dr. Henry Walton Jones, Jr., Izetta, Archduchess Ortfine Fredericka von Eylstadt, William J. Blazkowicz, Vasily Zaytsev, Vasili Ivanovich Koslov, Viktor Reznov, Dimitri Petrenko, Georgy Zhukov
• A Baron of the German nobility, and a Hauptsturmfuhrer (equivalent to the rank of Captain) in the Waffen-SS, Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist was responsible for personally funding and supervising the development of various Secret Weapon projects in the German Armed Forces. He was also notably part of Heinrich Himmler's inner circle, which, in addition to his vast amount of wealth, made him a very important figure within both the Waffen-SS and the Nazi High Command. In addition, he was also tasked with conducting inspection tours of various weapons production facilities both in Germany and within the Occupied Territories, which included projects intended for the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe.
  • The most recent and most prominent of these projects was the German Luftwaffe's latest fighter-bomber design: the Horten Ho.IX. This brand-new fighter-bomber design, part of Hermann Goring's so-called "3X1000" Project, used a then-revolutionary concept known as Flying Wing technology, and mended it with their latest jet engines. The end result was a fighter that came remarkably close to the Program's high standards, able to fly at close to 1000 km/h, with a range greater than 1000 km, and able to carry a 1000kg payload of bombs.
• Lt. Jimmy Patterson's first encounter with the Hauptsturmfuhrer would take place in August 1944, when the latter was inspecting the Lorient shipyard and U-boat pens. However, he wouldn't attract the attention of the OSS until September of that same year. Following the successful rescue of a Dutch Resistance operative named Gerritt, who had managed to snatch top secret German intelligence detailing the Ho.IX's existence and technical specifications, the threat that this aircraft posed was realized. The Horten could easily outperform even the latest and fastest Allied fighters, and could easily intercept bomber formations and shoot them down. Patterson was thus ordered to stop the project for good, which included him going after and killing von Sturmgeist.
• After helping American and British Airborne forces accomplish their objectives at Nijmegen and Arnhem, Patterson, with the help of Dutch Resistance and OSS contacts, was smuggled into Emmerich, Germany. There, he would attempt to assassinate Sturmgeist while also attempting to board his personal armored train, and arrive at the Gotha facility where the Ho.IX prototype was being kept and tested. Despite getting his cover blown, Emmerich itself being subject to an ongoing Allied bombing raid, and German troops hampering his advance to the platform where Sturmgeist's train was, Patterson was able to jump onto one of the flatbed cars at the rear of the train.
  • From there, as the train left Emmerich Station, a series of firefights broke out between Patterson, the German security detail and crew members onboard Sturmgeist's train, and a neighboring German armored train accompanying the latter. While Patterson was able to eliminate any opposition standing in his way, he was unable to kill Sturmgeist, who escaped by detaching the rest of the train from the locomotive and escaped onboard the latter. Fortunately for Patterson and unfortunately for Sturmgeist, the train had been detached at Friedrichroda, an industrial town not too far from the Gotha facility, and where much of the latter's fuel reserves were kept. The OSS agent simply destroyed the precious German fuel reserves, and found an alternate transport method to get to Gotha.
• Sturmgeist, having successfully arrived at Gotha, was ordered by German High Command to defend the facility, and especially the Ho.IX, at any cost, until they could either stop Patterson or get the prototype to a safer location. It would be here that he would make his Last Villain Stand. Despite the Hauptsturmfuhrer alerting the entire facility of an upcoming attack, Patterson was able to successfully infiltrate Gotha. From there, the Lieutenant would acquire American weapons thanks to a scientist sympathetic to the Allies, fight his way through the facility's defenders, steal the Ho.IX's plans, and call in Allied bombers to pound the facility into oblivion.
  • In one last attempt to stop Patterson, Sturmgeist sent dozens of Waffen-SS soldiers and Luftwaffe ground crewmen to kill him, only for Patterson to singlehandedly kill them all. Already backed into a corner between Patterson and the Allied bombs outside, Sturmgeist decided enough was enough, and would fight Patterson personally alongside the last of his men. While proving to be a challenge to the OSS agent, Sturmgeist was ultimately killed in action by Patterson, with the latter stealing the Ho.IX just as the Gotha facility was being bombed into oblivion.
• Despite his death, failure to kill Jimmy Patterson, letting the Ho.IX prototype get stolen, and getting the Gotha facility destroyed, this would not be the last time that Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist would be seen nor encountered by the Allies. In his quest to conquer the Pantheon under the Nazi banner, Johann Schmidt, head of the Nazi Science Division HYDRA, and one of Hitler's most dangerous minions, has been searching alternate worlds for fellow Nazi Germans or their equivalents. Specifically, he was looking for those who were sympathetic to his ideals, and would also prove useful to him by helping reinforce the Nazi presence in the Pantheon. Sturmgeist, just so happened to perfectly fit the bill. He was already a dedicated Nazi to begin with, had a massive pool of funds thanks to his aristocratic heritage, and personally oversaw wonderweapons production when Germany was backed into a corner. With a track record like this, and support from other high-ranking Nazis like Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse, it was decided to resurrect and ascend Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist as one of their subordinates.
• During one clear evening, at a railway station in War-Torn Berlin, a Panzerzug belonging to Hauptsturmfuhrer Baron Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist arrived on schedule. Unsurprisingly, the German Baron himself emerged from the train, having received orders to immediately report to his new superiors, Johann Schmidt, and Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse. Upon making it to the Reich Chancellery building, Sturmgeist was greeted by Schmidt and Strasse, who promptly appointed him as the God of Aristocratic Nazis. Immediately, Sturmgeist was given personal command of his own detachment of Waffen Storm Leaders and Nazi Storm Elites.
  • Much like he had done in his own universe beforehand, the Hauptsturmfuhrer was also ordered to help fund and personally oversee a number of ongoing wonderweapons projects being manufactured in different parts of the Pantheon. Sure enough, the Baron's immense wealth once again proves incredibly useful, as this fresh supply of new funds allows several of the Nazis' wonderweapons projects to finally bear fruit. Either they were finally in the mass production stage, the factories that had been attacked by the Allies had been restored to full capacity, or had finally reached prototype and pre-production testing. In addition, Sturmgeist's funding allowed existing German units already in the Pantheon to be re-equipped with more advanced conventional weapons and vehicles such as assault rifles, semi-automatic sniper rifles, and newer German tank designs. As such, the Baron would, much like in his own universe, would conduct regular inspection tours of both the aforementioned production facilities and the combat units.
  • One of these very weapons projects that Sturmgeist end up up funding would be Project "Weisshexe", a top-secret project personally approved by both Schmidt and Strasse, and supervised by former Germanian Empire officer Lt. Col. Arnold Berkman. While the Hauptsturmfuhrer was initially unaware of the Project's true nature, believing to be another jet or missile project for the German Luftwaffe, he would soon get a glimpse of what exactly "Weisshexe" was. At a former V2 rocket assembly plant in Berlin converted into a secret laboratory, Sturmgeist would be among several high-ranking Nazi officers attending Berkman's unveiling of the new weapon. Rather than a rocket, a jet fighter, or even a new generation of small arms, "Weisshexe" turned out to be the cloning, and ascension, of the White Witch Sophie, someone capable of obliterating entire Allied cities, and, more importantly, sympathizing with Schmidt's and Strasse's bloodlust and desire to conquer and destroy. Sturmgeist himself was rather impressed by the project, given that not only did they successfully revive a centuries-old witch, but that they also improved the cloning technology used, and even enhanced her further via the use of a Super Serum concocted by HYDRA scientist Dr. Arnim Zola. While the unveiling was interrupted by OSS agent Lt. Mike Powell detonating bombs on a few of the machines used to clone Sophie, on top of stealing several documents on the Project, the Nazis had otherwise successfully ascended, through artificial means, their own deity capable of matching even the likes of enhanced individuals like Steve Rogers, William J. Blazkowicz, and even the Witches of the 501st JFW.
• Following the ascension of the Principality of Eylstadt, an Alternate Timeline equivalent of Austria, and from the universe where Berkman and Sophie were originally from, the Nazis would invade and subsequently occupy the Alpine nation. This was part of their deal with the latter in exacting revenge on the nation for betraying her past self. Sturmgeist, as the commander of the Waffen Storm Leaders and Nazi Storm Elites, would serve as part of the occupation force based in Landsbruck, the Eylstadt capital. In this position, the Hauptsturmfuhrer would also serve as Schmidt's personal representative, helping the Nazis and HYDRA pillage thousands of priceless artworks and treasures from the country. He and his men, alongside HYDRA scientists Dr. Arnim Zola and Werner Reinhardt, also stole and gathered any information, artifacts, etc. related to witches like Sophie (of which several were found in the Landsbruck Palace and the surrounding countryside). Thanks to past experience with his timeline's equivalent of the SS, who served as Kaiser Otto's personal bodyguards and enforcers, Lt. Col. Arnold Berkman refused to work directly alongside the Hauptsturmfuhrer and his Allgemeine-SS unit, as he feared that Sturmgeist and his men would turn on him much like the Kaiser's SS did.
  • When the Nazis, through Sophie and Berkman, found out about the Allied Forces successfully ascending Izetta, Eylstadt's own Propaganda Hero and White Witch, into the Pantheon, Sturmgeist would play another major role. Following the still-crippled White Witch's ascension, a team of Schutzvollstrecker soldiers supported by both Berkman and Sophie manage to apprehend their old enemy, forcing the Allied team who ascended her to fall back. Upon being notified of Izetta's capture, both Schmidt and Strasse ordered that the witch be brought back to War-Torn Berlin to be studied and interrogated. For this, Sturmgeist, alongside several of his men, were ordered to transport the witch on Schmidt's personal train, the Schnellzug EB912. Berkman and Sophie, despite some initial reluctance, ultimately follow their new superiors' orders, and hand Izetta over to Sturmgeist and his men.
  • Unfortunately for the Baron, the Allies would soon send another team of soldiers, including his old Arch-Enemy Lt. Jimmy Patterson, after him and his precious cargo. A squad of operatives, including Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes, and Lt. Mike Powell, raided the train, engaging the Waffen Storm Leaders and Nazi Storm Elites onboard. Sturmgeist himself would confront the Allied soldiers, proving to be a match for even a Super-Soldier thanks to his combat experience and expertise in wielding an assault rifle. However, the aforementioned Lt. Patterson would, quite literally, derail the Hauptsturmfuhrer's plans just as he and his Waffen-SS goons were getting the upper hand. Having set up several Satchel Charges at the base of a rail bridge leading into Germany, Patterson promptly sent said bridge into the nearby river. Sturmgeist, upon realizing the danger, decided to give up on Izetta, and promptly separated the forward part of the train from the section where she was held. Escaping from the train just as it plunged into the river, the Hauptsturmfuhrer managed to catch a glimpse of his old nemesis, and promptly swore revenge, as he and his men swam away. Despite this setback, however, the German officer would not be punished for his failures, being far too important for their war effort, and giving both Sophie and Berkman further motivation to help their new Nazi allies in the ongoing Forever War.
• Upon finding out about the Ho.IX prototype making it into the Pantheon following Lt. Jimmy Patterson's ascension, Sturmgeist would play yet another major role. While he and his men couldn't outright steal the prototype due to it being in The Great Treasury, a neutral zone where conflict is strictly prohibited, he could, at the very least, restart the program from scratch. With help from expert spies like Berkman, Sophie, HYDRA agent Heinz Kruger, and even Dr. Rene Belloq, who were able to take hundreds of photographs of both the Horten itself as well as a copy of the aircraft's plans on display, the Hauptsturmfuhrer was able to successfully fund the building, testing, and pre-production of the Horten Ho 229 for use by the German Luftwaffe. The first few dozen planes, based directly on the V3 prototype and upgraded with technology from similar flying wing designs already in the pantheon, would be used by the Nemesis Squadron, with its commander Oberst Krieger being one of the pilots assigned to the new plane. These Horten Flying Wings would also be requested by Sophie to be her personal escorts when on combat missions, due to the Ho.IX being one of the few aircraft in the German arsenal capable of consistently keeping up with her.
• Being a high-ranking Nazi, on top of being a German aristocrat, it's unsurprising that Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist would be a target of both Western Allied and Soviet soldiers and assassins. What these attempted assassins, save for Jimmy Patterson, don't expect is that von Sturmgeist is very much capable of defending himself, and that the men guarding him are some of the best that the Waffen-SS have to offer. One such group of attempted assassins, the Basterds, learned this the hard way. When they attempted to use their usual loud tactics that they had used dozens of times against other Nazis on Sturmgeist and his men, the OSS unit had been caught completely off guard when Sturmgeist and his men returned fire, outgunning the Americans thanks to possessing both assault rifles and light machine guns. Unsurprisingly, Lt. Aldo Raine, leader of the unit, ordered his men to retreat, having severely underestimated their foes this time around.
• While most deities would steer clear from high-ranking Nazis like Baron von Sturmgeist, this would not be the case with the Tediz, who emulate the Nazis in a lot of ways. In fact, it's because of their shared fanaticism and penchant for brutal methods that they look up to and become allies with the likes of both Sturmgeist and his fellow Allgemeine-SS thugs, and by extension to other high-ranking Nazis in the Pantheon like Schmidt and Strasse. Having come to respect his new allies, von Sturmgeist provides the Tediz with the latest in Nazi German small arms, particularly the Sturmgewehr 44, an assault rifle highly coveted by both the Germans as well as any Allied units lucky enough to get their hands on one.

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@Hamana: Didn't someone have Superboss reserved for Demi-Fiend? If not, can I assign a different trope for him?

@Forgo Light: The correct plural term is "nemeses".

Shinobi has Faustian Rebellion as a potential trope for the Demi-Fiend.

Made the change. Should I repost it since only one vote has been tallied? Again, new to this.

As long as you have at least one with no opposition, you can work on the profile. Since I gave you a and no one spoke out again your proposal, you can work on the Meta Knight expies now.

Oh okay. Cool! Sorry bout that. Again, newbie scrublord.

@nightelf37

Yeah, while I do get the reasons why the Demi-Fiend was proposed under that trope, personally don't think it suits them that well overall. While the Demi-Fiend indeed finds itself often in the role of a powerful bonus boss, most of these roles are as mere cameos without too much connection to who they are as a character. As such, actually think the Superboss trope is better being used by the Fiends, as not only are the Fiends more frequently used in the role, but their role as superbosses tend to me a bit more centric to who they are as characters, with it being a pre-requisite for getting the True Ending in SMT III: Nocturne (alongside being their most iconic role for them), being the starring opponents of a dedicated super-dungeon in SMT IV: Apocalypse, and being the feature bosses of SMT V's Nocturne-based DLC.

As for the Demi-Fiend, while I do think Faustian Rebellion fits their canonical character arc quite well (being used as an empowered pawn for Lucifer, being made to challenge them to prove their worth as their servant, and earning their spot in the war against Heaven through defeating them), am willing to hear out other ideas for them, as I'm not 100% satisfied with them being proposed under the trope. You're also free to propose them yourself, as I have a lot of things I could work on as is.

Ooh, that's a good idea to propose them under.

If I didn't do so already, here's your fourth .

Edited by Shinobi on Jun 5th 2023 at 9:29:19 AM

I was thinking that the Demi-Fiend could fit Kingmaker Scenario, as while he cannot make his own Reason as he's no longer pure human, he can decide which Reason can end up influencing the next iteration of the world, or he can choose none of them.

Edit: Bottom-posting.

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Jun 6th 2023 at 12:40:12 AM