Wild Mass Guessing for Avengers: Endgame.
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Pre-Release Theories
- Forces of Good
- The Avengers
- Captain America/Nomad
- Iron Man
- Thor
- The Hulk
- Black Widow
- Hawkeye/Ronin
- Scarlet Witch
- Quicksilver
- The Vision
- The Falcon
- Spider-Man/Iron Spider
- War Machine
- S.H.I.E.L.D.
- Nick Fury
- Maria Hill
- Phil Coulson
- Ant-Man
- The Wasp
- Hank Pym
- Janet Van Dyne
- Sorcerers
- Doctor Strange
- Wong
- Mordo
- Wakanda
- Black Panther
- Shuri
- Okoye
- Nakia
- M'Baku
- W'Kabi
- Guardians of the Galaxy/Cosmic Heroes
- Peter Quill/Star-Lord
- Gamora
- Drax the Destroyer
- Rocket
- Groot
- Mantis
- Nebula
- Kraglin
- Captain Marvel
- Valkyrie
- Korg
- Miek
- Loki
- Lady Sif
- The Warriors Three
- Rhomann Dey
- Howard the Duck
- Hela Odinsdottir
- New Superheroes (presuming new supers have risen during the Time Skip)
- Ms. Marvel
- Silk
- Stature
- Spider-Man (Miles Morales)
- Yellowjacket (Eric O'Grady)
- Nova
- White Tiger
- Brother Voodoo
- Marc Spector/Moon Knight
- Defenders
- Daredevil
- Jessica Jones
- Luke Cage
- Iron Fist
- Punisher
- Misty Knight
- Elektra
- Others
- Cloak
- Dagger
- Jossed; Russos have confirmed no Netflix/TV characters.
- The Avengers
- Forces of Evil
- Thanos
- Crossbones
- Jossed for Crossbones; Frank Grillo confirmed he's only appearing in a flashback
- Red Skull and HYDRA
- Ultron and his Ultron Drones
- Ronan and the Sakaarans
- Malekith the Accursed and the Dark Elves
- Hela and the Undead Asgardians
- Dormammu
- Ulysses Klaue
- Proxima Midnight
- Corvus Glaive
- Cull Obsidian
- Ebony Maw
- Supergiant
- The Chitauri
- The Outriders
- The Skrulls
- Confirmed for Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, Spider-Man, War Machine, Ant-Man, the Wasp, Doctor Strange, Wong, Black Panther, Shuri, Okoye, M'Baku, Star-Lord, Gamora, Drax, Rocket, Groot, Mantis, Nebula, Kraglin, Captain Marvel, Valkyrie, Korg, Miek, Howard the Duck, Thanos, Sakaarans, Proxima Midnight, Corvus Glaive, Ebony Maw, the Chitauri, and outriders. Jossed for the rest.
- Jossed overall, while Captain Marvel gets a few great heroic moments, such as rescuing Tony and taking down Thanos’ ship, she doesn’t help rally the heroes and is barely involved otherwise. Thanos also decidedly defeats her in combat with the help of the Power Stone.
- If Marvel wants to keep Captain Marvel around for the future (more likely), Thanos will just slug her across the face, taking her out of the fight. She'll get her powers back at the end of the film.
- Mostly confirmed, Thanos punches her into unconsciousness using the Power Stone.
- Or if Marvel decides to cut Captain Marvel out of the franchise, Thanos will either Snap her or blast her to ash with the Power Stone.
- I would dispute this simply on the fact that Thanos has been stymied by a single-gem-powered individual before: Scarlet Witch, who got her powers from the Mind Gem.
- Or there's a permanent Time Skip after Infinity War.
- Given Kevin Feige's comments where he claims the movie will be Spiritual Successor to one of Star Trek: TNG's most beloved time travel based episodes, and the leaked images, and that it'd be kind of convoluted to make over five years pass in the span of one actual year in real life, it seems that time travel is more likely.
- Jossed, Cassie isn't a timetraveler. There was a five year Time Skip.
- Building on this, the heroes will find that the price for obtaining the Soul Stone is the same price for resurrection: a life for a life. Each hero will elect to save someone who died prematurely, at the cost of their own life. Iron Man could save Spider-Man, Captain America could save Bucky, etc.
- Especially foreshadowed because Cap told Vision in Infinity War: "we don't trade lives."
- Alternatively, only some of them do this instead of all of them (after all, it's looking like they're finally seriously considering to a Black Widow film).
- It's been confirmed that the rumored Black Widow film is a prequel. This means Black Widow could still die.
- Jossed. Iron Man and Black Widow die, but the rest live.
- It will be Cap, hoisting his shield in one hand and snapping his fingers — wearing the gauntlet — with the other.
- Someone still alive will say "Avengers", and as another hero is resurrected they'll finish it with "Assemble!"
- Cap will say the phrase as his last words.
- Confirmed! All the heroes come back for the final battle, and Captain America gets to say the iconic phrase right before the titular endgame fight.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Shortly after it was thought to be confirmed, the Russo Brothers stated that this was a misinterpretation, and that Gamora isn't actually trapped in the Stone, but her showing up was just a "spiritual representation".
- Jossed.
- This has been a common joke on the internet ever since his appearance in the film was first revealed. However, given that this film will still clearly have its trademark MCU-style humour despite the grim premise, someone will comment on Clint's hairtsyle upon seeing it, at which point he will give that explanation for a moment of Black Comedy.
- Jossed, Clint was having a picnic with his family when the snap happened.
- After recording and transmitting the message on his Iron Man helmet, Thor uses the Stormbreaker's Bifrost trigger (how he reached Earth from the Forge that time) and transports a small bunch of people into the ship, with lots of time to snark before they send everyone home.
- Confirmed as an anticlimax but jossed by the circumstances. Captain Marvel just carries the ship to Earth.
- Jossed
- Steve: Just what happened up there?
Tony: Well for a minute it looked like we might win. Then Quill got emotional about a loved one's death and it all went downhill from there.
Steve: Yeah, I can't IMAGINE what that must've been like. How's my old shield, by the way?
- Jossed.
- Captain Marvel(Space)
- Star-Lord(Power)
- Jane Foster(Reality)
- Scarlet Witch(Mind)
- Doctor Strange(Time)
- Gamora(Soul)
- Jossed
- Or she'll be with Thanos the whole time on that farm until the heroes arrive and nobody else can see or hear her, revealing her to be a hallucination.
- Jossed, although Thanos does "meet Death" at the end of the film.
- Jossed. She never appears or is mentioned.
- INFINITY WAR TWOOO: THANOS... IN DA HOUSEEE
- Veeery cool
- Avenge Us
- Avengers Once And For All (or Once And 4 All)
- Avengers Infinity Salvation
- Avengers: Forever Infinity
- Forever The Avengers
- Avenging the Universe
- Avengers Forever, after the comic miniseries of the same name.
- Bonus points to this one, because it would be Avengers Four-ever.
- According to the Russo brothers, while no one has correctly guessed the title so far, this is the closest guess yet.
- Avengers Eternal
- Avengers: Legacy (guessed below)
- Avengers 4 (yep, just Exactly What It Says on the Tin, just to troll everyone)
- Avengers: Fallen Sons
- Avengers: Fallen Heroes
- Avengers: Forgotten Heroes
- Avengers: Infinity War II. In the closing credits, when the title for Avengers: Infinity War crumbles into nothing, a Freeze-Frame Bonus shows the two 'I's of the word "Infinity" to be the last ones to disappear, possibly hinting at such.
- Jossed. The Russos and Feige dropped the idea of a Part 1 and Part 2.
- Avengers Disassembled, after the comic miniseries of the same name.
- Avengers: Endgame
- Cconfirmed! Trailer confirmed it to be such.
- Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet
- This one has been Jossed by Kevin Feige himself.
- Avengers: Resurrection
- Avengers: Secret Wars
- Avengers Assemble
- Avengers: Infinity Crusade
- Thanos Rising
- The Thanos Imperative
- Avengers: Generations
- Avengers: Legacy
- Avengers: Rebirth
- Avengers Reassembled
- Avengers: The End
- Avengers: Infinity and Forever
- Infinite Avengers
- Avengers: Nothing Lasts Forever
- Avengers: Eternity War
- Avengers Eternal
- The Last Avengers Story
- Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
- PLEASE! Choose this one!
- Avengers: Half Slain
- Avengers: Souls Eternal
- Avengers: War for Infinity
- Ultimate Avengers
- Avengers: Final Hour
- Avengers: Final Hope
- Avengers: Thanos Loses In This Onenote
- Avengers 4evernote
- Avengers: Memories Eternal
- Avengers: Final Judgements
- Avengers: Eternally Assembled
- Avengers Avenging
- Avengers: Aftermath or Avengers: Fallout. Those would be a spoiler for Infinity War.
- Avengers. Period. No appended clause needed, because they've actually got somebody - a lot of somebodies - to avenge this time. So for once their group-title says it all.
- This would work if not for the fact that the title for the first Avengers was The Avengers, which would make calling this movie "Avengers" look lazy, confusing and recycled.
- The Avenged
- Avengers: Back From the Ashes
- Avengers: Electric Boogaloonote .
- We Will Avenge
- The Revenge of the Avengers
- Avengers: Requiem
- Avengers: End Game
- confirmed
- Avengers: Battleworld
- With multiple realities and timelines folding in to make an excuse for alternate versions of dead characters to appear and introduce the characters of the X-Men Film Series and Spider-Verse.
- Avengers: Legion
- Avengers: Beyond
- Avengers: Rapture
- Avengers 4tnite: Battle Royale
- Attention, all MCU Viewers! Thanos has eliminated half of the population on Earth, and the Avengers need your help! In order to reverse the snap, they're going to need a time machine and a couple of Infinity Stones. All they need from you is your parents' credit card number, the 3 numbers on the back, and the expiry month and year. But hurry; Spider-Man is trapped in the soul world, and needs to get back to Earth to stop Mysterio!
- Avengers: Reckoning
- Deadpool and his amazing friends
- Avengers: Annihilation and The Last Avenger are being teased. The Last Avenger would have the advantage of being Book Ends with Captain America: The First Avenger.
- Some Avengers Avenging Other Avengers Even Though Some Of Them May Die Anyway
- Avengers: Episode IV – A New Hope
- Avengers: Farewell
- Avengers: Into Eternity
- Confirmed!
- Confirmed.
- Confirmed but not in the way you think.
- Unlikely as thanks to SHIELD and the Avengers, HYDRA's numbers have dwindled considerately. Plus it would be likely any remaining numbers have suffered through the Snap as well so they would be in no position to try and take advantage of the Snap.
- Jossed
- Already Jossed. They said that they had enough work having to collaborate with every other MCU director that they wouldn't have room to bring in the TV division as well. Coulson, at least, will finally reappear in the films through Captain Marvel.
- Jossed for the heroes but Jarvis the butler from Agent Carter makes an appearance.
- Steve and Tony in a final sendoff will preform a Heroic Sacrifice to kill Thanos, destroy the Infinity Stones and revive everyone Thanos killed.
- Captain Marvel, given that she's being hyped up as the most powerful character in the MCU.
- Drax with his story arc in Guardians Volume 3 being what to do once he has no more vengeance on his mind.
- Thor, by stabbing Thanos in the head with Stormbreaker.
- He does kill one version, but that Thanos is a severely weakened version of him. And killing him accomplishes nothing.
- Hulk becomes angrier than he's ever been before, entering Worldbreaker mode to have the strength to contend with Thanos
- Quicksilver coming back alive and being 'you didn't see that coming?'
- Nebula, as a nod to her stealing the gauntlet form Thanos in the original Infinity Gauntlet story.
- Resurrected Gamora and Nebula, in a team-up, as payback for everything they endured at Thanos's hands.
- Hulk, Thor, and Captain Marvel team up and fight Thanos 3 on one.
- The original Avengers-that is, Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, and Black Widow. It would be nice.
- Why not a combination of some of the above? Tony lets out last repulser blast, Captain Marvel throws a punch, Thor charges with Stormbreaker, Hawkeye fires a TNT-laced arrow, Steve throw his new shield and Drax grabs him from behind all at the exact same time, finally doing him in.
- Alternatively: instead of the original line-up of the MCU Avengers, it's the original comic book line-up of the Avengers — Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Ant Man, Wasp, and Captain Americanote . With Chris Evans confirming that Endgame is going to be his final appearance (the same possibly true for RDJ), this will be the last chance they'll have to pull this off (unless they pull a Secret Wars and recast him).
- Every hero using the Infinity Gauntlet to create a beam powerful enough to finish off Thanos, and then managing to reflect said beam to the Gauntlet to destroy it and the Stones
- Or all 32 heroes in that big scene that's been teased hold the six Stones among themselves, but join together to contain and use the power of the Stones, sort of like how the Guardians did it in their first film. Bonus points if it includes the dust-ghosts or time echoes of a bunch of the characters.
- Goose. See's Thanos, thinks he's a nice, purple cat/flerken treat, and eats him.
- Or, Thanos does it to himself.
- Stan Lee note
- Jossed. Banner/Hulk uses the stones to bring back everybody who was dusted, then Tony uses the stones to dust all of Thanos' forces
- Jossed, although they do go back in time.
- Death
- Entropy
- Eternity
- Infinity
- Lord Chaos
- Master Order
- Mistress Love
- Sire Hate
- Kronos
- The Celestials
- The Living Tribunal
- The One-Above-All
- This is unlikely, simply because, at this point, it would add further complications to an already pretty complex plot. It also dilutes Thanos' pathos by overshadowing his real, human beliefs in the necessity of the Culling by making it just part of the machinations of higher-dimensional beings.
- Jossed, the Cosmic Entities do not appear.
- Jossed in that they don't see their future selves; instead we see Present Tony go through this.
- Or Heimdall.
- Jossed, Thor stays alive and joins the Guardians. Valkyrie does become the ruler of Asgard though.
- Jossed. Word of God says he didn't survive 'the snap'.
- Jossed, Captain Marvel rescues Tony and Nebula.
- Jossed, Captain Marvel rescues Tony and Nebula.
- At the very least, we've got confirmation that another suit is appearing (Gwenyth Paltrow has been shown wearing a mocap suit and photos of her in a purple set of armor have been leaked, all but officially confirming she'll become Rescue), so it's not out of the question for him to have an even better set of armor planned out.
- Jossed, they don't go to Nidavellir and Tony doesn't make an armor out of Uru.
- Jossed
- Nope. He's being saved for Guardians 3. This is official.
- Jossed, there wasn't any stinger in this movie.
- A repeat of Thanos sitting down by the river from the end of Avengers 3, but an extended one that shows he's just been defeated and/or persuaded to undo the Fingersnap himself. Indeed, he breaks down weeping as the scene plays out longer than the first time around, because it turns out he'd murdered Gamora for nothing, and even if she's restored he knows he'll never deserve her forgiveness this time.
- A recreation of the famous post credits scene from Iron Man only without Robert Downey Jr. and Samuel L. Jackson, connected to the above theory.
- As a result of Thanos meddling with reality, a spaceship belonging to the Baxter Foundation is tossed out of a wormhole and sent drifting towards Earth.
- One of the heroes being replaced by a Skrull, setting up the new Myth Arc for post-Avengers: Endgame: Secret Invasion.
- Alternatively, it will take the form of a hero we thought already died in the movie revealed as being a Skrull captive.
- This one might be jossed as of the release of Captain Marvel (2019), in which the Skulls as a whole are shown to have undergone Adaptational Heroism and (especially given their small numbers) probably don't plan on invading planets anytime soon.
- Alternatively, it will take the form of a hero we thought already died in the movie revealed as being a Skrull captive.
- Also, a callback to the shawarma stinger from The Avengers, but now featuring all the surviving heroes enjoying shawarma.
- Galaga guy will finally get his all-time high score
- The Guardians of the Galaxy (whatever will be left of them) will leave Earth after a celebration, while remaining in contact if needed. Rocket will say something like "Now we're three time galaxy savers! We can rack up the price even more!".
- A teenage girl will take part in an archery competition, and shows her precise aiming skills. Then the host says, "Great job Kate, at this rate you'll be the next Hawkeye!"
- The ruins of Xandar are revealed, but Irani Rael is revealed to have survived. She, alongside Rhomann, says "We won't just bring back the Nova Corps, we'll make it stronger than it's ever been. Scout out all possible recruits, I hear Earth houses some mighty heroes..."
- A billionaire businessman from Chicago moves to New York City after a spending time in Egypt as a mercenary. A woman says, "Welcome, Mr. Spector. I hope you find New York to be your kind of place." to which he responds, "The night is still young, and there is much work to do."
- In the climax, Thor's new hammer Stormbreaker is blown out into space. In the stinger, it is recovered by an alien cyborg.
- There will be no Stinger. Honestly, Endgame is the culmination of the universe up to this point, and tacking on more setup would undermine that. Alternately, they could just have a comedic Stinger.
- Why on Earth would there be no Stinger when they want to set up movies after Phase 3? That would make no sense.
- Confirmed. Endgame has no stinger.
- If the above WMG about rebooting the universe is true, a man will be shown reading a pamplet for the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters, only to accidentally disintegrate it using Eye Beams.
- And jossed for the same reasons below the WMG featuring adamantium claws.
- Steven Strange, T'Challa (or perhaps Shuri), Hank Pym, and (if surviving) Bruce Banner and Tony Stark will come together and form the Illuminati.
- Camera closes in on a fist. After a second, Adamantium claws pop out. "Ok, bub. Our turn", as the X-Men run by. *Phase 4, coming soon*
- Likely jossed by Feige's comments, which state that Phase 4 won't have the X-Men; while the wording of his comment does mean we could see mutant characters not connected/normally associated with the X-Men (i.e., Justice, Northstar, Aurora, Deadpoolnote ), it seems that Phase 5 is the earliest the X-Men could show up.
- We see a barefoot man in a coat watching a news report of the aftermath of the film. He stares at it with a neutral expression on his face before Captain America is mentioned and he becomes interested. "Been so long since I've last seen him. Maybe I should go say hi." the man proclaims taking off his coat to reveal none other than Namor the Sub-Mariner and he races off.
- Scarlet Witch is on a train off to who knows where when it suddenly stops. An older gentleman takes a seat next to her and offers to show her who she really is. When she asks who the guy is, his answer is "Your father".
- The heroes in line to get coffee at Wakanda's new Starbucks.
- Teenage Cassie Lang will talk to Peter Parker and Shuri about the possibility of forming a team of kids like them.
- A scene in deep space. We see what at first appears to be the surface of a vast metallic asteroid or planet...until the vast planes slide apart and reveal an immense eye behind it, showing us the identity of the main villain of Phase 4: Galactus.
- Provided that Spider-Man is resurrected, there will be a "final swing" scene identical to Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2 and The Amazing Spider-Man. The camera slowly pans out to see that it is a news broadcast reporting Spider-Man's return. A large figure watches it from a TV, and says, "Real interesting kid, we must admit. And yet, so...familiar." Something white forms around the figure's torso as his tongue extends out, before suddenly smashing the TV instantly with a web. It cuts to black and shows text: "Venom is coming".note
- Someone shows up in Norway, with a Feet-First Introduction, and finds the remains of the broken Mjolnir. This stranger, that we do not not have a clear view at any moment, grabs the handle, and suddenly all the pieces of Mjolnir fly to their place and rearrange themselves as the hammer. We get to see the text: "Whosoever holds this hammer, if she be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor". And then the stinger ends in a flash of light.
- Bruce Banner approaches a courthouse, as a woman exits the building. Behind her, several lawyers, police, and a prisoner follow. She waves to Bruce. Suddenly, a car veers around a corner, firing at the prisoner. The woman is hit, and falls to the steps. She's in bad shape. Medics rush to the scene. "We need to do a blood transfusion quickly." "Dammit, we're out." Bruce thinks it over, calculating the risks, but not for too long. He walks up to the medics, "Can you use mine? Our blood types are compatible. We're family." He looks down at the woman, who seems to be dying on the stretcher, as the medics begin inserting needles into Banner's arm. "You'll get through this. You'll be alright, Jennifer."
- Captain Marvel is training at the upstate facility, when someone approaches her and says that an incident has occured in New Jersey that requires her attention. She asks if a villain has resurfaced, and the agent says, "Yes and no, the villain's been dealt with. It's a Fangirl we need your help with."
- The leaders of the New Avengers (likely Black Panther, Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel) are sitting at a table; Strange is reading a paper, T'Challa is looking grumpily at an unseen person across the table, Carol is looking down and rubbing her temples. Strange finally says, "So in your resume, you list your previous experience as, "Beating up an one-dimensional British villain", "fighting... Not-Thanos, and... "World Record Holder for most R-rated movie premiere records"... but I was interested about this section you included... "Recommendations for merging the... cinematic universes?" What does that... even mean?" The camera cuts to a reverse shot, showing Deadpool, who says, "Bennysnitch, it means that my franchise probably only has enough steam for one more movie, and I want in on this little shindig of yours." Cut back to the New Avengers heads, all looking unimpressed. They all say "No," in complete unison, and T'Challa rings the next applicant in. Deadpool remarks as he's leaving, 'Stupid f**king Perlmutter and his "no X-Men for a few years" bullshit...'
- The shattered fragments of the Infinity Stones are recovered and set into the real Mandarin's rings.
- If Tony ends up dying or retiring for good, Shuri will be seen working on her own set of Iron Man armor, suggesting she'll become the MCU version of Ironheart.
- Nick Fury (or Maria Hill) will be dispatching several agents. At the end of the line of agents, Fury will say, "...and YOU have the most important task of all; you'll be watching Parker. Just stick close to him, make sure he's alright, and not putting himself or the world in jeopardy." The agent will turn to leave, and Fury will call to the agent, referring to the woman as Agent Drew. He will say, "You have a lot to make amends for. Prove that I can trust you." Drew will respond, "I will."
- Thaddeus Ross will be at a government meeting where he makes his proposal for a new team. He says if the Avengers can't be controlled, there's the alternative. Then he makes his proposal: Assemble a group of known villains and have them perform the black ops missions that couldn't be done before. Then he finishes off his speech by saying "Gentlemen, introducing Project Thunderbolts".
- The film will continue the trend of Avengers movies having only one post-credits scene,
- Or as a finale to Phase 3 of the MCU, different teasers for future movies or tv shows happen during the credits. Personally this is what I want to happen, because it makes it stand out from all previous movies in the franchise and show this is a major turning point for the Avengers themselves as well as for the franchise.
- Thanos and Hela meet in hell, and he is immediately smitten.
- Black market Chitauri technology is revealed to have found its way to Latveria, and into the hands of one Victor Von Doom, who has enhanced it with his own magic.
- No scene, but a title card dedicating the movie, or indeed the first 3 phases, to Stan Lee.
- A teenager named Steve Harmon reveals to his fiend Mike that he's become a clown-themed superhero called The Awesome Slapstick. Mike asks how this has happened. Steve replies "I'll explain my first adventure in Dimension Ecch later".
- Two men (mid-late twenties) are engaged in conversation, as they work in a private laboratory. Both their faces are hidden as they talk (one is sitting hunched over, working at a computer station and the other has a wielding mask on while he works on a piece of equipment). Their conversation goes like:Wielding Mask Dude ...fortunate that they have decided to fund us.
Computer Station Guy: (Sarcasm in every word) Yes.... fortunate. It only took five years and a full blown threat from the stars for them to see the true worth of this expedition.
Wielding Mask Dude: I know it’s been a wait, but I truly believe that with how the world’s changing...
[Suddenly lights begin flashing as a loud beeping is heard from the computer terminal. Wielding Mask Dude, shocked, lifts his wielding mask up and looks at Computer Station Guy. A wide grin spreads across his face as over. This is the moment he’s been waiting for.]
Wielding Mask Dude: (Happily Numb) Is that..... did it finally locate... O...o..ohhhh my god.
Computer Station Guy: (Clearly in shock, whispering to himself) Impossible. I searched years... mother’s books... how?
Wielding Mask Dude: (excited) Victor, do you know what this means?
[Computer Station Guy is silent for a moment and finally looks up from the station. We see the handsome face of Victor Van Damme, the man who will become Doctor Doom. He looks at his excited cohort.]
Victor: “It means, Richards, (Van Damme pauses slightly and smirks as the station’s green light flashes on his face) we’ve just created a gateway to space.”
Reed Richards: (Grinning, attempting to control his excitement) Fantastic! - The Stinger will start with the Avengers, talking about how they reversed the snap, and if they are really sure if the everything is back to normal (possibly lampshading/referencing Uatu), before Steve looks off camera and asks if anything seems amiss to Logan. Hugh Jackman quips "Wade's still ugly and can't keep his mouth shut", to which Ryan Reynolds complains "I resemble that remark" before winking at the camera.
- If Thanos survives, he is shown sulking in whichever dimension or place he is banished to, musing over his failure and the extents he had to go for a goal that, ultimately, was undone. A portal appears before him, as an unknown figure walks through it. Thanos seems to recognize this figure, who says: "...May I join you, Titan?" Thanos is silent for a moment, replying with: "...Yes, Warlock." The revealed Warlock simply sits down with Thanos, as they begin to converse with each other peacefully.
- In the aftermath of a movie with several major hero deaths (which surely will be the case) an unseen figure will comment about the obstacles in his path having finally been removed. It will be his era in this new world without the best of the Avengers. He'd then reach down and pick up an iron face mask and take it up with a green cape flourish (Doctor Doom stinger).
- A muscled, hairy man will look up into the stars, musing on what had become of Thor, before walking off into a new adventure.
- We cut to a 1940's dance hall, where a party is in full swing. However, one woman is standing alone off to the side. The camera zooms in on her, and we can see it's Peggy Carter. Peggy scans the room one last time, sighs with disappointment and prepares to leave, when a man rushes towards her. "Sorry I'm late," Steve Rogers says sheepishly as he offers Peggy his hand. "Better late than never." Peggy replies, smiling as she takes Steve's hand, and the two move to the center of the dance floor.
- Following the climactic battle with Thanos, the Infinity Stones have been scattered. The Space Stone is picked up by Loki, who remarks that it's "Finally back where it belongs." Four portals surround Loki, and from them emerge the Fantastic Four. Reed Richards surveys his the area as he tries to get his bearings. "Are you the one who summoned us here?" He asks Loki, which Loki confirms. Reed studies Loki, his interest piqued. He then asks another question. "Is that you, Victor? You look different." Loki smirks as he starts to shimmer. "I haven't heard that name in a long time." Loki's illusion breaks, revealing him to be none other than Doctor Doom. No, this one isn't serious. It's the post-credits scene of Kingdom Hearts III, but with Marvel characters.
- All Jossed, there is no stinger.
- Jossed, there is no post/mid-credits scene.
Going with this idea, there's a chance the Cassie will assist the remaining heroes as Stature, being part of the ensemble and later setting up the YA movie if that's what they're going with.
- Jossed.
- Meaning Heimdall, Loki, Gamora, and Vision will stay dead. Nebula will take her sister's place on the Guardians. Feige has said they wanted the deaths of Infinity War to have weight, and reversing every death would do the opposite.
- Gamora at the very least may be brought back, since Guardians Vol. 3 was rumored to focus on her.
- Going off this, Vision would only "return" well into the future as a new being; another AI turned super-android named Jonas who was created to ape Vision.
- Or we might get mind wiped White Vision.
- Or an amalgamation of the two.
- It seems out of all the characters that were killed before the snap, Heimdall might be the only one that stays dead as implied by Idris Elba on his Twitter.
- Confirmed, though a 2014 version of Gamora ends up in the present.
- Jossed, everyone who is brought back lives.
Alive (as of the end of Infinity War)
- Captain America
- Cap makes a final sacrifice play that kills him, but ends up saving the day.
- Bonus points if he says "I can do this all day." and picks up Stormbreaker at some point.
- Alternatively, he passes the shield and costume to Sam or Bucky and finally, truly comes home from the war.
- Confirmed.
- Cap makes a final sacrifice play that kills him, but ends up saving the day.
- Iron Man
- He makes a final sacrifice play, saving the day at the cost of his life.
- Confirmed.
- Marries Pepper, with all the surviving heroes present, and some familiar faces, like Harley Keen from Iron Man 3.
- Alternatively, he makes a third attempt at retirement, with this one actually sticking.
- Retires and opens up a school for aspiring young heroes.
- He makes a final sacrifice play, saving the day at the cost of his life.
- Hulk
- Banner will manage to have a heart-to-heat with Hulk and convince him that one defeat is nothing to be scared or ashamed of. Hulk will then prove instrumental in Thanos's defeat. He and Banner will then make peace with each other, finishing the loose trilogy that started in Ragnarok.
- The Russo Brothers confirmed that Hulk's refusal to come out in Infinity War is less due to fear and more due to him no longer wanting to fight Banner's battles for him. To resolve this, Banner will offer to allow Hulk control over his body permanently in exchange for Hulk using his power to help defeat Thanos, effectively performing a Heroic Sacrifice of the non-lethal kind.
- Banner and Hulk will finally make peace with each other and merge into one personality, like in the comics. As Hulk is effectively the personification of Banner's anger, the merge will be Banner coming to terms with his psychological issues and accepting the Hulk as a part of himself, creating a new entity with elements of both characters.
- Confirmed. Not to mention that the Merged Hulk survives through the whole film.
- Banner will finally be separated from the Hulk thanks to reality warping. The Hulk lives on after all is said and done by merging with a new human counterpart; Amadeus Cho
- Thor
- Resettles the Asgardian refugees on Earth, like he was planning to before all this mess. May or may not continue to show up in crossover movies.
- May create a new Asgard but retire as an Avenger to be King full time.
- Simply go off with the rest of the refugees to find a new home.
- Sacrifices himself to save the universe since it was his desire to make Thanos pay that kept him from killing Thanos outright, giving Thanos time to perform the snap.
- Jossed. He becomes a new member of the Guardians of the Galaxy.
- Resettles the Asgardian refugees on Earth, like he was planning to before all this mess. May or may not continue to show up in crossover movies.
- Black Widow
- Retires, having made up for the red in her ledger by helping to save the entire universe. Her solo movie will either be One Last Job or another prequel.
- If Fury dies, she'll take up his role as one of the people behind the scenes alongside Maria Hill, leading into a Black Widow solo movie.
- Jossed. When it comes to the Soul Stone's sacrifice, she is the one to die.
- Ronin (Hawkeye)
- Retires from active duty and starts mentoring a rebellious rich girl as stubborn and dedicated as him.
- Dies in a Heroic Sacrifice to save Wanda, telling her that her brother would want her to live on.
- Jossed. He does try to make a Heroic Sacrifice to get the Soul Stone, but Natasha does it instead. He is last shown reuniting with his family.
- Nebula
- She takes Gamora's advice and decides to help other kids who've been abused like her and her sister.
- Joins either the Guardians or Kraglin, whose forming his own little group of "backup Guardians".
- Confirmed. Joins the Guardians.
- Okoye
- Returns to her role as leader of the Dora Milaje, whatever shape Wakanda happens to be in.
- Confirmed.
- Returns to her role as leader of the Dora Milaje, whatever shape Wakanda happens to be in.
- M'Baku
- Leads Wakanda's military during the following crisis.
- Unknown, as we don't see him until the final battle.
- Leads Wakanda's military during the following crisis.
- Rocket
- He begins to consider revisiting his roots, resulting in the third Guardians film featuring Half-World and his old partner Walrus the Walrus.
- And his ex-lover/childhood crush, Lylla the Otter
- Goes from being the only surviving Guardian to the one Guardian who dies and remains dead. Just because it would be a very impactful death. And he did say he doesn't have much of a lifespan anyway...
- Jossed. He survives and rejoins the Guardians.
- He begins to consider revisiting his roots, resulting in the third Guardians film featuring Half-World and his old partner Walrus the Walrus.
- War Machine
- Returns to normal military service. He gets promoted and becomes a new sort of Big Good for the MCU.
- If Tony dies, he'll recruit new heroes to wear armors alongside him to honor his memory.
- Ant-Man
- Becomes a core member of the reestablished Avengers team and, if the time travel stuff does result in him meeting an older Cassie, begins training the young Cassie to use the Pym particles.
- Jossed. It's not clear if, when all is said and done, he remains an official Avenger.
- Becomes a core member of the reestablished Avengers team and, if the time travel stuff does result in him meeting an older Cassie, begins training the young Cassie to use the Pym particles.
- Cassie Lang
- Inherits the powers of her father and begins a career as Stature for a certain young superhero team.
- Jossed.
- Inherits the powers of her father and begins a career as Stature for a certain young superhero team.
- Harley Keener
- Like how Tony took Spider-Man under his wing, Harley will be mentored by Pepper or Rhodey.
- Continue to be mentored by Tony, eventually becoming the MCU equivalent of Nate Richards/Iron Lad (since a time-traveling young Kang the Conqueror might be too complicated a backstory to establish).
- If Tony dies, Harley will be revealed to have bought stocks in Stark Industries and becomes an ally to the grieving Pepper in her time of need.
- Jossed. He only appears at Tony's funeral.
- Captain Marvel
- Becomes the leader of a new Avengers team, while also being put in charge of a new space-based defense unit to protect Earth from future alien attacks.
- Jossed.
- Becomes the leader of a new Avengers team, while also being put in charge of a new space-based defense unit to protect Earth from future alien attacks.
- Thanos
- Is killed off and meets Lady Death in the afterlife.
- Fakes his death to become a farmer.
- Dies happily when Captain America and Iron Man both sacrifice themselves to defeat him, realizing if these two heroes who don't get along could set aside their differences and make a great team, perhaps there is balance in the universe after all.
- Jossed. Dusted by Tony.
Ambiguous (as of the end of Infinity War)
- Pepper Potts
- Uses the company's resources to help recruit and train new heroes.
- Is told by FRIDAY that Tony built a suit of armor for her; becomes Rescue.
- No word on if Friday tells her, but her becoming Rescue seems to be confirmed by photos she posted of herself in a purple armor.
- Ned Leeds
- The Spider-Man sequel will focus on Ned attempting to become Peter's sidekick as Hobgoblin. After some hijinks, he decides he's better off being the guy in the chair while another person becomes inspired by Ned.
- Jossed.
- He tries to get girlfriends for himself and Peter.
- The Spider-Man sequel will focus on Ned attempting to become Peter's sidekick as Hobgoblin. After some hijinks, he decides he's better off being the guy in the chair while another person becomes inspired by Ned.
- Cindy Moon
- Will be revealed to have spider powers of her own.
- Will discover Peter is Spider-Man.
- Jossed. She doesn't appear.
- Sally Avril
- Doesn't appear.
- Tiny McKeever
- Doesn't appear.
- Thunderbolt Ross
- Gets fired from his Secretary of State post due to the President not buying his anti-superhero stance.
- Dies in the process of doing one last thing that shows he's not a complete tool.
- Is made partially to blame for the destruction of Earth's heroes. Desperate for revenge, he turns to Samuel Sterns for help and finally becomes the Red Hulk.
- All Jossed. His only appearance is making a Pet the Dog moment by attending Tony's funeral.
- Eitri
- Joins Thor in finding a new home for the Asgardians.
- Jossed. He doesn't appear.
- Joins Thor in finding a new home for the Asgardians.
- Red Skull
- Finds a way back to Earth and begins to rebuild HYDRA.
- Jossed. Only the 2014 Red Skull appears.
- Finds a way back to Earth and begins to rebuild HYDRA.
- Wong
- Continues to stay with Strange in the NY Sanctum Sanctorum, protecting Earth from mystical threats.
- Seemingly confirmed, based on what is known about the Doctor Strange sequel.
- Continues to stay with Strange in the NY Sanctum Sanctorum, protecting Earth from mystical threats.
- Shuri
- Becomes the new Black Panther with a cloned Heart-Shaped Herb, serves as Queen of Wakanda until T'Challa is resurrected and becomes close with the resurrected Spider-Man.
- Jossed. She was also dusted.
- Goes to Coachella. And Disneyland.
- Becomes the new Black Panther with a cloned Heart-Shaped Herb, serves as Queen of Wakanda until T'Challa is resurrected and becomes close with the resurrected Spider-Man.
- Ava Starr / Ghost
- Continues treatment to stabilize her condition under the Pym-Van Dynes, Bill Foster, and maybe even any surviving geniuses allied with the Avengers.
- Hired by Thaddeus Ross, to be a part of a new strike force meant to replace the Avengers as government mercenaries.
- Faded into the fabric of reality, killed off between ''Ant-Man And The Wasp'' and ''Endgame'' by her condition due to Janet being unable to keep healing her.
- All Jossed. She doesn't appear.
Dead (as of the end of Infinity War)
- Spider-Man
- Resurrected in time for his sequel. Depending on how big a Reset Button gets pushed, his second film may be about the emotional fallout from these movies, in the same way Iron Man 3 was a follow-up to Avengers.
- Confirmed.
- Resurrected in time for his sequel. Depending on how big a Reset Button gets pushed, his second film may be about the emotional fallout from these movies, in the same way Iron Man 3 was a follow-up to Avengers.
- Black Panther
- Resurrected, returns to his duty as Wakanda's protector and chief ambassador in time for his sequel.
- Confirmed.
- Resurrected, returns to his duty as Wakanda's protector and chief ambassador in time for his sequel.
- The Falcon
- Resurrected, takes up the role of Captain America after Steve dies or retires.
- Confirmed.
- Resurrected, takes up the role of Captain America after Steve dies or retires.
- Bucky Barnes
- Resurrected, goes back to his farm in Wakanda in hopes of finally getting some peace and quiet.
- Resurrected, takes up the role of Captain America after Steve dies or retires.
- Jossed. He's resurrected, but Sam becomes the new Captain America.
- Doctor Strange
- Not resurrected — or at least not permanently. Cumberbatch hasn't confirmed anything about a Doctor Strange sequel.
- Kevin Feige has confirmed a sequel, so assuming the film ends with mass resurrections and not the Avengers going back in time to stop Thanos from executing his Badass Fingersnap, maybe perhaps the first thing he'll say is "I told you that I had a plan" to Tony.
- Jossed. He is resurrected.
- Not resurrected — or at least not permanently. Cumberbatch hasn't confirmed anything about a Doctor Strange sequel.
- Loki
- He gets reincarnated as Kid Loki and joins the Young Avengers.
- It's revealed he faked his death the entire time and pulls a Big Damn Heroes moment that helps turn the tide against Thanos.
- Jossed. Only the 2012 version of Loki appears.
- Gamora
- Not resurrected and Guardians 3 will focus on the remaining Guardians racing to get the Soul Stone from the Sovereign to bring her back.
- Resurrected, this time by either Nebula or Thanos himself trading their life for hers.
- Jossed. Only the 2014 version of Gamora appears.
- Star-Lord
- He and Gamora will become an Official Couple while Peter tries to become a better leader so that no one else can lose their lives to someone like Thanos.
- He will sacrifice himself for real to try and make up for causing the "Get the Gauntlet Off" plan to fail. Whether or not it needed to happen based on what Doctor Strange saw in those 14 million+ possible futures, it's more than likely that Star-Lord would still hold a lot of guilt for what he did.
- Him dying this time around is unlikely, since Chris Pratt has confirmed his role in Vol 3. It's unlikely they'd have him restricted to just flashback appearances in Vol 3.
- It is possible (unlikely admittedly but still possible) that him saying that is an intentional misdirect, similar to how Michael Rooker appeared on set for Infinity War to prevent Yondu's death in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 from being leaked. Again it's unlikely, but I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility seeing as Marvel has done similar things in the past.
- Jossed. He lives.
- Groot
- Will return to his fully grown form upon resurrection.
- Jossed, Groot is still a teenager.
- Given that baby/teenage Groot is not the same Groot as from the first movie, this is unlikely.
- Will return to his fully grown form upon resurrection.
- Drax
- Performs a Heroic Sacrifice...but comes into contact with a stone in the process and ends up bringing his daughter back to life as an adult warrior in the process, as it was able to tell what his greatest desire was. She joins the Guardians as Moondragon.
- Jossed.
- Performs a Heroic Sacrifice...but comes into contact with a stone in the process and ends up bringing his daughter back to life as an adult warrior in the process, as it was able to tell what his greatest desire was. She joins the Guardians as Moondragon.
- Vision
- He will stay dead, as he was killed before the Snap happened.
- Confirmed.
- He'll be rebuilt with the solar gem from the comics replacing the Mind Stone.
- He will stay dead, as he was killed before the Snap happened.
- Scarlet Witch
- If the Vision lives, she will end up marrying him.
- If the Vision remains dead, she will be emotionally devastated, cutting her ties with the Avengers and hiding herself from the world.
- Jossed. While saddened by Vision's death, she doesn't seem to cut her ties with the Avengers.
- Heimdall
- Remains dead, if Idris Elba is to be believed.
- Confirmed.
- Remains dead, if Idris Elba is to be believed.
- Nick Fury
- Resurrected. In a Brick Joke, he'll come back Un-Paused, meaning his first word will be "-ucker".
- Jossed. While he is resurrected, we don't see him at the moment he comes back.
- Resurrected. In a Brick Joke, he'll come back Un-Paused, meaning his first word will be "-ucker".
- Maria Hill
- Resurrected and will resume her position as Fury's right hand woman. If Fury doesn't come back, then she'll take over command of S.H.I.E.L.D.
- The former is confirmed.
- Resurrected and will resume her position as Fury's right hand woman. If Fury doesn't come back, then she'll take over command of S.H.I.E.L.D.
- The Wasp
- She was killed in The Stinger of Ant-Man and the Wasp. Her death will motivate Scott to resurrect her.
- Confirmed. Scott mentions that he lost someone special when trying to convince Tony to help.
- Visits Hank and Janet at their seaside house, finally spending time as a real family.
- She was killed in The Stinger of Ant-Man and the Wasp. Her death will motivate Scott to resurrect her.
- Probably jossed as Fiege as said he wants the Spider-Man movies to go through all his years in High School.
- Not "probably" jossed. Feige said he would like to have the movies in high school, not that it was definitively going to happen. He also said that before Endgame began production, and things have a high tendency to change as things go along, so it shouldn't be taken to heart. Not only that, but why would they seriously go through all the trouble of making a Time Skip and then use a magical reset button to return everything back to normal like nothing bad happened? The actions need to have consequences, which is what Feige said was the case. Also, Tom Holland is going to be getting a little too old to convincingly play a high-schooler as time goes on, and it would probably be best to have Spidey actually grow up as time passes (especially since the MCU averts Comic-Book Time). Keeping the six year time skip means they can grow up some characters and allow a natural flow of time so it doesn't get crowded, not to mention introduce more superheroes who could enter the fray.
- Poster who said that it was probably Jossed; it’s confirmed but Peter comes back to this time skip as the 16 year old he was in Infinity War.
- Confirmed.
- This could possibly lead to Jane replacing Thor if he dies in this film.
- Plus, Jane did house the Aether/Reality Stone at one point...
- Semi-confirmed. Jane appears when Thor and Rocket travel to Asgard during the events of Thor: The Dark World. However, Selvig does not appear.
- Jossed. The 2018 Gamora stays dead.
- Captain America — After the mass death in Infinity War, Cap makes the Heroic Sacrifice that is essential for saving the universe.
- Iron Man — Makes a Heroic Sacrifice alongside Cap
- Confirmed, but not alongside Cap
- White Wolf (Bucky) — Barnes can finally get the redemption he would most likely desire after spending his life as a brainwashed HYDRA assassin. In doing so, he would make a Heroic Sacrifice, thus giving him death in redemption.
- Ronin (Clint/Hawkeye) — He could die to set the stakes for the movie (not that they were low to begin with), and especially possible since his comic counterpart did die in a major storyline Avengers Disassembled. Could lead to Kate Bishop taking up the mantle of Hawkeye.
- Jossed. He lives.
- Ant-Man — Similar to the above, Ant-Man could potentially be killed off especially since he died in the comics (in the same story as Hawkeye, no less). This could motivate Cassie into being a superhero just like him, thus becoming Stature.
- Jossed. He lives.
- Building on this: Bruce and Hulk will finally work out their differences and come to an understanding with each other.
- Bruce Banner and the Hulk might become the Merged Hulk much like Peter David's run on the character.
- Confirmed.
- Building on this: Bruce and Hulk will finally work out their differences and come to an understanding with each other.
- Jossed. While the disintegrated Avengers come back, only Tony and Natasha die.
- Shuri leads the remains of Wakanda, and provides their advanced technology to the rest of the world to ensure it's ready for another invasion.
- Jossed. Shuri was also dusted.
- Rocket, Nebula and Thor open the doors for Earth to be part of a space trade, allowing them access to alien weapons and technology.
- Jossed. Thor became a drunken recluse, while Rocket and Nebula seem to be focused on helping out in space.
- Iron Man inducts all remaining superheroes into the Avengers Initiative, and they serve as the protectors of Earth.
- Jossed. He settled down and had a family.
- Wong trains a new generation of sorcerers in the wake of Doctor Strange's death.
- Unknown, as he doesn't appear until the final battle.
- Captain America leads the remaining Avengers, and seeks to find more superheroes to help.
- Jossed. He becomes a grief counselor.
- Jossed.
Possible new superheroes include:
- Ms. Marvel — Inspired by the superheroes of the real world. May have an updated backstory that involves being an "enhanced" rather than an inhuman.
- Silk — Revealed to have been hiding her spider powers and became an active crimefighter once Spider-Man dies.
- Stature — Will have been trained after inheriting her father's powers, and will set up Young Avengers later.
- Miles Morales — Takes up the mantle of Spider-Man following his death, similar to Miles' comic book origins.
- Eric O'Grady — A former member of Scott's gang that happened upon blueprints for the Yellowjacket suit and builds his own.
- Assorted new Guardians of the Galaxy. They're an ensemble so it's easy to bring in fresh members.
- Possibly Stakar Ogord's Ravager crew.
- Or Kraglin, since James Gunn confirmed he's still alive.
- A successor to Black Panther's throne/title.
- Shuri, perhaps?
- Shuri is jossed by the trailer for Endgame, since the Avengers consider her dead/missing; while the shot that confirms her as "missing" also shows Scott Lang among the missing (only for him to show up alive and well at the end) doesn't automatically confirm she was dusted, it does mean that if she survived, she went into hiding.
- Shuri, perhaps?
- Nova — Nova Prime, if she was among those spared when Thanos invaded Xandar, makes a plan to strengthen the Nova Corps and searches for recruits across the universe, specifically one Richard Rider or Sam Alexander.
- Brother Voodoo — In a desperate move to keep the remainder of the universe safe from Dormammu, Wong seeks out the brother of Daniel Drumm and trains him.
- Beta Ray Bill - It's been confirmed that Mjolnir will appear in this movie, despite having been destroyed in Ragnarok, so unless they bring it back in a way that somehow involves sacrificing Stormbreaker, Stormbreaker (which, in the comics, is Bill's weapon) will be needing someone to wield it (as I can't see Thor dual-wielding the two, and even if Loki comes back, he doesn't strike me as the type of person who would wield it, assuming that Stormbreaker doesn't have any "he who is worthy" requirements for wielding it - and we already know he can't use Mjolnir). He would've appeared in Ragnarok but Word of God from Feige says he basically got pushed back...maybe this is the film he got pushed back to?
- Kate Bishop - For similar reasons to Stature in regards to Young Avengers. What if the reason Clint Barton is Ronin and not Hawkeye is because he's training Bishop to take over as Hawkeye, and already abandoned the identity in preparation?
It's worth noting that Stan Lee himself mentioned that the duology of movies would introduce multiple new fan-pleasing characters.
- All Jossed. No new heroes appear, aside from Kraglin showing up in the background of the final battle.
- Jossed.
- Behind the scenes pictures have hinted that there's going to be a flashback to the events of the first Avengers movie...
- There's also the fact that the original six Avengers from the first movie all survived, so it would be poetic for them to team up with Loki.
- Also, if one were to pay close attention to Loki's final words to Thor, it really does sound like he's got something planned (being who he is, it really wouldn't be that surprising).
- Taken from the Infinity War WMG page — There's one thing few people have considered: we still have absolutely no idea how he survived getting stabbed in Thor: The Dark World. What if he actually did die in that film, and somehow used his magic/tricks to come back to life? And if that's true, he did exactly that this time around — let himself get killed by Thanos but made certain that he would come back to life in some way. Not only would this trick Thanos with the Titan none the wiser, but this would also allow him to survive Thanos's wave of destruction that followed. He can't disintegrate if he's already dead, so he probably planned to die and made certain that he would only come back after it's all over.
- Jossed. He is hunting criminals, as he doesn't think it's fair that they survived and his family didn't.
- A possibility, given that Loki uses the Tesseract to disappear during the time heist.
- Jossed. Thor does get a heartwarming conversation with a past version of Frigga, though.
- Which is foreshadowed in Avengers: Infinity War when Thor first visits Nidavellir: one of the first things he sees is an infinity gauntlet, or at least a mold of one.
- Or the original four to six Avengers (Cap, Tony, Bruce, Thor, Natasha, Clint — any combination thereof) will have to harness the power of the Infinity Stones collectively to remake everything. Bonus points if each Avenger is responsible for one stone each, since there are six of them and six stones.
- This could also be a way to write out any of the surviving Avengers they won't be using anymore- have them die channeling the power of the stones. At the very least, no one would call it an anticlimactic death.
- Or the Hulk will wield the Gauntlet, as he's the only one whose hands are large enough to do so. It will take him and Bruce Banner cooperating with each other to use its massive powers. If they die, they will make peace in a spiritual realm, where we can finally see Bruce and Hulk together on the same screen.
- This reddit post (which is basically copied from a 4chan post made by an anonymous poster who also leaked several Infinity War plot elements, but was quickly deleted after posting) suggests that it's the most likely Hulk who uses it.
- Jossed. Eitri doesn't appear. Tony makes a new gauntlet with nanotechnology.
- Mostly Jossed. However, he does said admit to Nebula that he treated her too harshly.
- The presence of a teenage Cassie Lang is a construct of Scott's, who will be shown to die at the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp, and his fantasy is his family being together again.
- The twins, potentially Wiccan and Speed, are constructs created for Wanda's fantasy alongside a construct of Vision, essentially the same purpose as Scott's.
- Star-Lord and Gamora will be living together happily, but Gamora (being the sacrifice that released the gem) will realize that something's wrong.
- Drax's family will be alive.
- Most likely jossed. Tony, who survived the movie, appears to be older in set photos that have been shown so far and has taken the reins of leading the reformed S.H.I.E.L.D. which means that a Time Skip is the most likely reason. Plus, Ant-Man returns fighting alongside the heroes, which means he most likely survived and didn't Bus Crash.
- My best guess is that the whole future scenario is Tony and possibly Captain America trapped in a Lotus-Eater Machine where their lives took drastic changes, whether its good or bad is unknown. However, they broke out of their prison after accepting what has happened with Tony deciding to let go of his parents and Steve letting go of Peggy.
- It doesn't really make much sense, and the Time Skip is the most likely scenario. Why would Scott's fantasy of the family being together involve Cassie being a teenager if there's no Time Skip? He would probably imagine Cassie as still being a child in this case.
- Jossed.
- ...Will be a new character that helps the Avengers out when they are in Tokyo for Endgame.
- ...Will be a Race Lifted version of a superhero we are already familiar with from the comics, or an Asian superhero who functions as a secondary character. Candidates for these possibilities:
- Machine Man
- Stingray
- Doctor Druid
- Quasar
- ...Will be the MCU's version of Agamotto, who in the MCU will be a Composite Character of comics!Ancient One and Agamotto. He will be a mentor to Doctor Strange, and as he is a cosmic entity it would make sense for him to appear in this movie. He would be Asian because the Ancient One we saw in Doctor Strange in Doctor Strange was portrayed by Tilda Swinton (a white woman), and it's been established that in this continuity Agamotto was an ordinary human who ascended to a higher plane of existence after being the first human to master the mystic arts. Therefore, Agamotto could be the first Ancient One in this continuity (as a nod to the comics while still being plot relevant) and a powerful super-entity who helps defeat Thanos during the Final Battle.
- Will be Kenjiro Fujikawa, a business associate of Tony's who hopes to combine their companies. If Tony and/or Pepper die in the movies, Kenjiro will buy out Stark Industries.
- The real Amadeus Cho, albeit given an Age Lift.
- Adam Warlock making an Early-Bird Cameo in the stinger.
- Norman Osborn
- Doctor Doom
- Immortus, who will be pulled into the plot due to the rumored time travel elements and how that connects to Limbo, the realm he rules. This version will be a Japanese man who stumbled into Limbo instead of a future version of Kang the Conqueror
- Maelstrom, who will be the first Inhuman featured in the movies.
- Captain Universe, or rather the person that Eternity, the personification of the universe, turns into his protector for the specific goal of freeing the universe from Thanos's whims.
- Lord Dark Wind: an old Daredevil and Wolverine foe. He was mentioned in the final episode of Daredevil, but since that show is cancelled, it's not as though they will use him.
- A Race Lift version of the Swordsman. Perhaps he trained a young Clint Barton?
- A new character unrelated to any comic characters.
- Confirmed: He's some random Yakuza boss whom Clint hunts down and executes during his Death Seeker phase.
- Jossed. Bruce and Hulk have already merged by the time he uses the Infinity Stones.
- The soft reboot will also see The X-Men and Fantastic Four join the MCU as a direct consequence of undoing Thanos's actions.
- Jossed.
So that begs the question, how do you speculate Endgame will be marketed? Speculate here:
- They will show all the ones who are alive as of the beginning of 4. That leaves us with the six founding Avengers, War Machine, Rocket, Nebula, Okoye, M'Baku, Ant-Man, The Wasp, and Captain Marvel. That would be enough to work with in a normal movie, but with a series as massive as the MCU, they're obviously short on characters. To compensate, they'll emphasize how everything has changed since then, show new elements introduced in the series Time Skip (possibly pertaining to the new superheroes who may be introduced), and make sure that while things are bad now that Hope Springs Eternal without directly showing any revived character.
- They will focus on Ant-Man and Tony's journey to the past, on Captain Marvel showing off her power, Thanos fighting the original Avengers and Rocket and also contemplating on what he did, and then, right at the end, show shots eluding to the revived heroes.
- Jossed.
- The part about him having a child with Pepper is confirmed, but the rest is Jossed.
Captain America: Captain America suffers from losing both Bucky and Sam. He still attempts to mobilize the team to track Thanos and undo the damage. However, Steve blames himself as his actions in saving one man (Vision) caused the deaths of half the Universe. He teams up with Iron Man but tensions still high. Captain America gets caught in a dream world where things had been different, good or bad is unknown. However, the spirit of Peggy Carter moves him to accept that whats inside him, his flaws shouldn't be looked down as without it, Steve wouldn't be what he is today. With that, Cap returns and mended fences with Tony. Captain America retires from the Avengers to found a school for talented individuals.
- Jossed. He travels back in time to be with Peggy.
Hulk: With help from a revived Vision who has some remnants of the Mind Stone's power places Bruce into his mindscape to confront Hulk. Bruce attempts to bring Hulk into the fold but Hulk refuses not because he was afraid of Thanos but afraid of himself, believing he is responsible for why all his friends are now suffering. Bruce realizes that Hulk is more human than thought and persuades him to come out not as a monster but as an Avenger. Bruce and Hulk learns how to undo the damage and to do is a repeat of sacrificing some you cherished as Red Skull stated. This time however, the two found another option and Hulk sacrifices himself to restore the Universe. With Hulk gone, Bruce gets to live the life with Natasha but not before Bruce honors Hulk as a true hero.
- Jossed. During the Time Skip, Bruce has managed to merge himself with the Hulk.
Thor: Thor's journey is to get stronger and decides to use Doctor Strange's Sanctum Sanctorum to find answers. There, he learns how Odin became the humbled King. Thor with help from Tony or Eitri built an Infinity Armor to repel the effects of the Infinity Stones. With the war finally over, Thor takes half his people to Earth. At some point in time, he bestowes Stormbreaker to a Korbinite named Beta Ray Bill.
- Jossed. He gives up the throne to Valkyrie.
Hawkeye: Hawkeye takes on the identity of Ronin to shed himself from his SHIELD days. His arrows are used to get Ant-Man and Wasp into the dream world and rescue Tony and Steve. He spent the entire defending them from incoming enemies. With the war over, Hawkeye returns to his family.
- Jossed. He became Ronin to hunt criminals.
Black Widow: Black Widow attempts to reconnect with Bruce but there is some bitterness between them due to Hulk leaving her and Black Widow kicking Bruce to get Hulk. Black Widow redeems herself by begging Bruce to not sacrifice himself to undo the changes. Hulk sacrifices himself allowing Bruce to be together with Natasha.
- Jossed. Natasha sacrifices herself.
Captain Marvel: Captain Marvel will take charge since neither Captain America or Iron Man are capable in leading the team. Captain Marvel seemingly dies sacrificing herself to save Earth. She survives and leads the Avengers.
- Jossed. She spends much of the film off world.
War Machine: War Machine will be at the sidelines attempting to calm down the hysteria caused by the Infinity Gauntlet. He attempts to remove the Accords. Even though the Accords are present, changes have been made to allow the military and government to prepare themselves for another attack.
- Jossed. The Accords aren't mentioned.
Vision: Vision is revived thanks to Shuri backing up his data. Vision helps Bruce talk to Hulk and later helps Thor understand his journey. Alternatively, he found two boys on the streets and took them in. With the war over, Wanda and Vision adopt the two boys who are revealed to be Inhumans.
- Jossed. Vision stays dead and is only indirectly mentioned.
Rocket: Rocket bonds with Bruce over themselves having no choice in becoming monsters. Rocket will also build a weapon named 'The Drax' that can remove the Infinity Gauntlet or Stones. He will also show off his piloting skills to get to Thanos.
- Jossed. He does pilot the crew to Thanos, but his skills go unmentioned.
Ant-Man: Ant-Man will rescue Tony and Steve from the dream world they are in.
- Jossed.
Wasp: Wasp will rescue Tony and Steve from the dream world they are in.
- Jossed. She was dusted.
Nebula: Nebula joins the Avengers in stopping Thanos and will have her mending fences with Thanos alongside the vision of Gamora.
- Jossed. Her extent of her interaction with Thanos is him finally showing her some respect.
Shuri: Shuri if she survives attempts to lead the Wakandans to battle Thanos and Black Panther bestowing her the potential role on becoming Black Panther.
- Jossed. She was dusted.
Thanos: Thanos lives in peace in the planet he is in. However, he is bothered with visions of Gamora who urges him to give up his quest. As Thanos attempts to stop the Avengers, we learn more about Thanos's past and after bombarded by the vision of Gamora and Nebula urging him to stop, this allows the Avengers to defeat Thanos and Thanos goes for self exile as punishment for his crime.
- Jossed. He is ambushed and killed, having already destroyed the Infinity Stones.
Post-Credit Scenes:
- An older Cassie comes to the present time to warn them of a greater threat; Kang the Conqueror.
- A portal opens up revealing the ship belonging to the Fantastic Four.
- Tony speaks with Dr. Hank McCoy about a new team he's putting together to ensure no one would use the Infinity Stones for evil.
- All Jossed. There is no post credit scene.
So setting up Nova would be rather easy. The surviving Nova Corpsmen try to revive the Nova Corps while making them stronger than ever before, and do so by spreading their forces across the cosmos. This leads to Rhomann Dey happening upon Richard Rider, who he inducts as a Nova Centurian. The story involves Richard's journey to becoming a space superhero, being a Fish out of Water as an Earthling on other planets. This could eventually even lead to a future movie that many also want to see: an adaptation of Annihilation.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. They all partake in the final battle, but are not seen all together.
- Jossed. Tony dies, Cap goes back in time, and Thor goes to space.
- We'll get a hilarious standoff between Tony and Rocket, as the two have never seen each other. Remember that WMG from the last film involving Tony, Rocket, Nebula, and a Star Fox reference? This is how that could happen!
- Rocket will be initially overjoyed to see the ship again and then be absolutely heartbroken when he learns that his entire family is dead.
- The first trailer seems to support this partway at least (showing that the ship is still spaceworthy but implying that Tony and Nebula attempted to fly somewhere but ran out of fuel.)
- Jossed. They attempt to, but Captain Marvel saves them.
- Jossed on Cassie's part, given that she's in the movie and has been aged (complete with a Time-Shifted Actor) which indicates she's been through the Time Skip.
- Not necessarily. Thanks to the stones, reality could be altered to bring Cassie back, or create a manifestation of her used to manipulate Scott.
- Confirmed. We see Hawkeye's family get dusted.
- Jossed.
- She could be doing something that will pay off by the end though, like training Cassie to become Stature/Stinger. The older Cassie will be seen via time travel by Scott as what Cassie would become without him or her mother, but with Hope.
- Except, chillingly enough, Wasp was not seen among the surviving team in the concept art. That's not a good sign...
- Confirmed in The Stinger of Ant-Man and the Wasp which is unfortunately set on the same time as Infinity War where she and her parents turned into dust like all of Thanos' victims.
- Avengers Forever
- The Avengers will always return
- Thanos will NOT return
- The Marvel Cinematic Universe will return
- The New Avengers will return
- Heroes always, and will always, return. To save those in need, those who seek hope, those who deserve life.
- Peace will return
- All Jossed. There is no end of credits line.
- Jossed. James Gunn said that GOTGV3 would be the last film featuring the original team, and Chris Pratt has already confirmed his involvement.
- Or Shuri, if she survived, takes up the mantle of Black Panther. And they could even introduce her power armor from the comics since the herb is gone.
- Which might make for even more conflict, since M'Baku seemed a bit at odds with Shuri in the BP movie.
- Or they both take over as rulers, forming a Brains and Brawn dynamic.
- Jossed. Okoye is the one shown communicating with the Avengers and the power structure is not shown.
- Jossed. The present Thanos is quickly killed off. A past Thanos comes to Earth in the climax.
- Why not both? Just have Peter mentioning about Uncle Ben instead of a whole flashback.
- This isn't a Spider-Man movie, so why would they do that here? Plus, they already messed with the idea of Peter being inspired by someone who wasn't Uncle Ben in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and that didn't turn out too well.
- Let's Take a Third Option: Uncle Ben will be revealed to be the one who inspired Peter to use his abilities for good. Tony, however, will be revealed to be Peter's main inspiration as a superhero (i.e., Peter chose to use Red in his costume because of Tony).
- In that case the blue could have come from Captain America and Tony was just the first of the two to reach out to Peter.
- Jossed. Peter's motivations are never mentioned.
- Wouldn't that render everything pointless though? They probably wouldn't feature time travel elements only to have them not have any impact on the state things.
- Jossed and played straight. The Marvel rules apply, but they borrow Infinity Stones from other timelines to bring everyone back, then return the stones to those timelines so that they aren't left defenseless.
This would be an easy way to integrate Thanos's love of Death itself into the story, would bring things full circle with the Infinity Stone storyline, would allow the character to organically evolve into a Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist as opposed to a ruthless antagonist with noble goals, and it would also give the supervillain something to do during the movie's 2.5-3-hour runtime rather than to wait for an entire movie until the Avengers show up to kick his wrinkly purple ass. It would also provide an ample distraction for Thanos so he has a reason to not interrupt the plans of our heroes, which he could easily do otherwise.
- Wasn't the Gauntlet pretty much destroyed at the end of Infinity War? Also, why go after Death? It would make more sense to skip his attempt to court Death and instead have him jump straight to creating Terraxia (except she'll be reassuring him that he made the right move, as an intent to ease his pain), given that he creates the latter after Death rejects him.
- The Gauntlet is damaged, but still intact. It's how Thanos was able to warp off to another planet and heal his wound. The Infinity Stones aren't damaged, either.
- In all honesty? Yes, it would. It's only the hardcore comics fans who want Lady Death to enter the MCU and, frankly, at this point the opportunity to introduce her organically and make her well-received is long passed. Shoving her into this film would look like a tacky last-minute addition, and harm the films more than help.
- However, the Character Rerailment is confirmed: His plan goes from "destroy half of the universe to save the rest" to "destroy the entire universe" when he learns that the Avengers aren't grateful for his "sacrifice", and are looking to do something to undo it.
- Jossed.
- Perhaps General Ross?
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Time travel breaks continuity and is generally not the best storytelling. Instead, the film will feature some sort of "another dimension" / "soul world" akin to Warp / Fade in other works. This will allow for beautiful visuals (think of the Ego's planet in GotG2) and unconventional plot.
- In the first movie, Thanos praised the will to sacrifice others for greater good. Thanatos was personification of death itself in Ancient Greece. You cannot outplay Thanos (death) on his own field and make decisions more ruthless than him to succeed. Instead, the film will be all about "love/compassion is not weakness" and how the very thing that lead to the heroes' demise (their humanity) will allow them to win in the end.
MCU has three casters who are all tied to the stones, all made some sacrifice, all hardly (if ever) met each other and all are conveniently dead: Strange, Loki and Wanda. They will find each other in the soul realm and embark on some sort of journey together to release/resurrect everybody. For instance, they might need to find and free Gamora's pure soul, and she in turn will use the Soul Stone.
Meanwhile, the original Avengers' team will settle their differences and welcome new members. They will use BARF to learn something in the past that will allow them to help those trapped in the other dimension. Their plot could also involve some politics (they are still criminals to the state). Tony Stark will restore SHIELD.
There will be few actual deaths (Cap?), but many heroes will lay down their mantle and go into the sunset. Justice inflicted on Thanos will be poetic, for instance, he will get trapped alone inside the Soul Gem instead of Gamora.
- Jossed. There is time travel.
- It only make sense, since Wakanda is incredibly small in contrast to all the other countries on Earth such as the U.S. Sure, they may be the most powerful nation on Earth, but considering the small amount of Wakandans that existed before half their population was wiped out (including their king, mind you), it would be literally impossible to keep such a technologically advanced country running for very long.
- Jossed. It seems to be functioning well enough, as evidenced by Okoye's presence in the hologram meeting.
- He will do the following to each Avenger:
- Tony: He will rewrite reality and time so that he and Pepper settle down for a normal married life, just like they were going to before the Black Order's attack, Tony will then hand over his ownership of Stark Industries to either Rhodes, T'Challa or another person
- Steve: He'll return him to WW2 and allow him to live the life with Peggy that he never could, he'll pass down his Captain America mantle to either Bucky or Sam before going "home"
- Bruce: Thanos will make him and Hulk separate entities finally allowing Bruce to live a peaceful life, as well as giving Hulk true freedom and a chance to calm down for good and retire as well
- Thor: Thanos will revive the half of his people that were killed and rebuild Asgard, Thor will then retire to assume his responsibilities as a king, possibly allowing him to pass down Stormbreaker to Beta Ray Bill in the future
- Natasha: She will be allowed to live a normal life without worrying about her past haunting her, possibly even restoring her fertility
- Finally, Thanos will willingly destroy three of the gems so that they never get used again, and also revive the Dwarves as an apology to Eitri, then he will travel to parts unknown to re-think his entire life and find a new goal.
- Jossed. Thanos is killed by Thor.
During the Marvel Comic miniseries The End, Thanos managed to wipe out the entire universe. Not just half of the life in it or half of the universe, everything. However while initially he is satisfied with his action, as he is left to ponder in the eternal nothingness he created he realizes life is what gives the universe value. With this, he wills the universe to return and removes himself from it as a way to sort of make up for it.
Now this idea would certainly need reworking for the MCU but that's no different from every previous film. At the end of Infinity War after Thanos has succeeded in wiping out half of the life in the universe, while he appears to be satisfied with his deed he also appears to be unsure about what he did. Perhaps he began to realizes the error of what he did, he begins to realize that his plan was needless and only a temporary solution or that it was never a good idea to begin with. He could force himself to ignore these realizations but over the course of Endgame he comes to terms with it. Once all the surviving heroes finally get to him to put an end to his madness and reset what he did, they would find not the Mad Titan they tried to hard to fight in Infinity War but a guilt-ridden genocidal warrior that resents his decision. After that he could use the Infinity Gauntlet (or what's left of it) to undo his previous snap, and takes the opportunity to take himself out of the universe as a way to atone for what he did. Not only would it make Thanos an even more interesting character but it would also cement Thanos as the true protagonist of this duology, and for Marvel it would be a huge storytelling risk to have a big Avengers film with seemingly no Big Bad.
- Jossed. Thanos dies five years before the Snap is undone.
- Jossed. It seems that the Soul Stone sacrifice cannot be undone.
- The state of the world has changed to allow Shout Outs to Earth X.
- Tony is going borderline Knight Templar from the guilt of Peter's death, and has resurrected/recreated Ultron.
- Jossed. He retired and had a family.
- Thor has hollowed out a mountain in an empty imitation of Asgard and spends his days brooding and hallucinating about his lost comrades.
- Semi-confirmed in him shutting himself off from others, though the circumstances are different.
- Rocket has assembled a second-stringer Guardian group.
- Jossed. He seems to be only working with Nebula.
- Ross apprehended Banner, who spends his days desperately trying to find out how to revive the Hulk.
- Jossed. Hulk and Banner have become one.
- Ross has gotten even more maniacal about tracking down the fugitive Avengers.
- Jossed. He chooses not to arrest the Avengers at Tony's funeral.
- Steve Rogers has abandoned even the Nomad title, and no longer feels like he can protect the world, or that it deserves to be protected.
- Jossed.
- Wong will be the only sorcerer remaining, and desperately trying to find a new pupil.
- His actions during the five year gap are unknown.
- Cassie will have been trained by Scott and Hank in using the Pym Particles and acts as the teen superhero Stature.
- Jossed. She believed Scott to be dead.
- Shuri will have been crowned Queen of Wakanda, but will be acting more like an interim leader, desperately believing T'Challa will soon return.
- Jossed. She was dusted.
- Alternatively, M'Baku is crowned King, maintaining Wakanda but refusing to offer outreach to the same extent as T'Challa.
- Natasha, Clint, Ant-Man and The Wasp (if they survive) and War Machine have formed a new "Secret Avengers", and are Skrull-hunting in Japan.
- Jossed. Clint went rogue after losing his family.
- The events of the movie will be kickstarted by Carol's return to Earth, responding to Fury's call.
- Alternatively, any of these ideas could be shown as elements of a Bad Future that Ant-Man and Iron Man time travel to.
- Jossed. That happened in the Stinger of Captain Marvel.
- Jossed by the events of Captain Marvel (2019) since she's left the Kree army after it turned out they were Evil All Along.
- Mjolnir no longer exists, and it was apparently limiting Thor's power anyway. Maybe Cap could use Stormbreaker instead.
- Mjolnir has seemingly been confirmed to come back as shown with leaked on-set photos, so only time will tell if Steve gets a chance to lift it.
- Confirmed. Cap wields Mjolnir in a Crowning Moment of Awesome.
- This makes sense, since the shows are confirmed to be going forward with their own plots instead of tying in to the ending of Infinity War. If they do reference it, it won't be the main plot, which suggests it will be reversed either soon after the ending of Infinity War or early into this movie.
- Confirmed in that it starts right after Infinity War. However, there is a five year Time Skip.
- Jossed. Hulk and Banner have merged.
- Jossed by Captain Marvel (2019) since the Skrulls are Good All Along and she's spent the last two decades helping out the Skrull refugee victims of the Kree.
- Jossed, see above.
- Confirmed.
- A comic styled recap of he events of all the previous movies, set to the Merry Marvel Marching Society, the song worked for LEGO Marvel Super Heroes.
- An animated sequence featuring all the heroes still alive fighting together against something or other that resembles the opening to The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
- Trips through space, and the Quantum Realm, with the visuals resembling iconic moments from previous MCU films. Those who were snapped will have their credits reassemble from dust.
- A white screen, where famous moments from other MCU films are drawn, before being coloured. The font will be the same used for the Infinity War credits, highlighting how it's a reversal: the good guys have won, instead of Thanos.
- Jossed. The credits are clips of the characters from previous movies.
- Jossed. Coulson isn't even mentioned.
- Confirmed. 2014 Thanos repeats his future self's "I am inevitable" line, before realizing that Tony took the stones.
- Almost entirely jossed. Thanos does not pull a Heel–Face Turn and the Gauntlet is pretty much destroyed, so no one else can use it. However, Thanos is a Disc-One Final Boss: to himself! To elaborate, his present self gets killed by Thor early in the film, and some time-travelling later, his past self from 2014 discovers everything and becomes the Big Bad going onward.
- That is highly unlikely as Bob Iger has said that the deal will closed, by the earliest and most optimistic thinking, in Summer 2019 and with Comcast knocking on Fox's door it could be delayed and complicated even further. Not to mention the tone shift that would happen if Deadpool were to be shoved into what is meant to be the conclusion of a ten year arc for these characters.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. There is no stinger.
- Why Captain Marvel? Simple: she's one of two Avengers (Thor is the other) that could do it, and of those two, she's the only one who would likely be so bold as to try fighting him alone.
- Jossed. Thanos himself destroys the stones.
- Jossed. They are all free.
- Confirmed, though the exchange is different. Steve initially refuses the shield before Tony points out that Howard made it for him.
- Jossed.
- They might make up later and talk about cybernetics. Rocket could make some very cool mods to Tony's suit, or give him a Hadron Enforcer.
- Jossed. They only have a couple of minor interactions.
- Jossed. He doesn't appear again after explaining the Soul Stone sacrifice.
- Jossed. Thanos doesn't make a Heel–Face Turn.
- Jossed. While most of the dead Avengers are resurrected, Vision stays dead and Tony and Natasha die.
- Jossed. The last shot is Steve and Peggy dancing.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. They never interact.
- Jossed. According to Spider-Man, from the perspective of those who were snapped, it was like they passed out and woke up five years later.
- Pym got dusted in The Stinger of Ant Man and Wasp, so at the very least, if such a meeting happens, it'll be near the end or a post-credits scene.
- Though they never interact, Hank does attend Tony's funeral, showing that he no longer holds animosity.
- Jossed. Red Skull only appears when explains the Soul Stone.
- The movie is way too far along in development for them to include any of the Fox-owned characters. Furthermore, the She-Hulk rights are tied up with Universal in some fashion.
- Disney now owns Fox, and have indicated that they want to keep Deadpool as is. Whether or not that means merging him into the MCU or leaving him in his own separate cinematic universe is unknown.
- Peter Parker coming back has already been confirmed by his actor and the director.
- Confirmed for Vision, Gamora, Loki, and Heimdall. Jossed for the rest.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Vision is still dead by the end of the film.
- Jossed. As Hulk explains, changing the past doesn't change the future.
- Jossed
- Jossed.
- Jossed. He appears as a driver in 1970.
- Confirmed
- Sorry, everyone! Sorry.
- Alternatively, his first words will be "I feel much better now."
- Jossed. His first words that he's shown saying are "Hey! Holy cow! You will not believe what's been going on. Do you remember when we were in space? And I got all dusty? I must've passed out, because I woke up, and you were gone. But Doctor Strange was there, right? He was like, "It's been five years. Come on, they need us." And then he started doing the yellow sparkly thing that he does all the time–" before being cut off by Tony hugging him.
- Considering that James Gunn has been reinstated as director of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, I think it's safe to say the Guardians (with the possible exception of Gamora, who will be the focus of the third movie) will be just fine.
- Jossed. The Time Skip stays.
- Confirmed, though it's a new gauntlet designed by Tony.
- Potentially worse: They will be present, but will fade to dust as they are passed, before the end of the sequence, where the logo fades to dust.
- It's not somber and quiet, but confirmed.
- Seems jossed by one of Thanos' lines in the trailers: "Look at the world around you. Is it not more peaceful?"
- And in the film proper, he remains convinced he was right.
- Jossed. The only dead characters are Widow and Iron Man. Bruce becomes Professor Hulk.
- Jossed.
Scott, who has no idea what's happened, accidentally gets sucked into a time vortex that spits him out six years into the future. With none of the Pym's present and a post-apocalyptic world around him, Scott decides to head to his house to see if Cassie is okay. This is supported by a set photo of Scott Lang running into an empty lot and a pile of rubbish on the curb where his house used to be.
Cassie happens to be there as well, and once they recognize each other, they have an emotional reunion, in which Cassie asks him where he's been all this time. Scott tells her what happended to him, and Cassie tells him about Thanos and the Avengers (assuming she's made contact with them since the Snap). Scott, who still has the quantum energy he collected and the knowledge of what time vortexes can do, decides to seek out the one person he knows who can fix things who still isn't on the run from the Accords and Secretary Ross (assuming he's still alive): Tony Stark.
Scott meets Tony and, after some convincing, manages to get Tony to listen to his story. Tony becomes enamored with the idea of using time vortexes for travel and demands that Scott get all of Hank Pym's research for him. Between Hank's notes on the Quantum Realm, the quantum energy Scott collected, and his own expertise in engineering and physics, Tony figures out how to harness time vortexes and creates a device capable of doing so. This is (maybe) supported by a set photo of Ant-Man, a much older Tony Stark, and a younger Cap all together at what looks like the Battle of New York, each of which has a small wrist device on one hand.
- Confirmed. Tony figures it out after Scott tells him it's possible.
- Jossed. He gives him his old shield.
- Bonus points if sometime during the film, someone makes a reference to all those snapped Reddit users.
- Jossed.
- A deleted scene does have Tony (dying due to infinity gauntlet use) talk to an adult Morgan Stark via the soul stone, but it was cut because the test audiences didn't know who she was.
- Also, someone (probably Tony) will try to give Rocket yet another humiliating nickname, and either Rocket or Thor will correct them: "It's Rabbit now."
- Jossed. If anything, Thor leans on Rocket for support.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. He never appears or is mentioned.
- Jossed. It's a different planet that Thanos called Titan II.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
Here's how it will play out. The Avengers and their allies track Thanos down and try to get the Gauntlet from him. When it looks like they'll succeed, he destroys the Gauntlet.
That seemingly renders their plan moot, since in the MCU, you need some kind of artifact to invoke the power of an Infinity Stone (and in some cases, to hold it for longer than a few seconds). Without the Gauntlet or something similar, there's nothing they can do.
However, the original 6 Avengers decide that they ought to be able to do it by holding the stones themselves. And they choose to do so. The power of the stones consumes them, but it does allow them to undo the Snap.
- Jossed. The only sacrifice needed was Natasha to get the Soul Stone, plus Hulk's arm getting fried to use the gauntlet.
Now, this entry requires looking at the Avengers: Infinity War and leaked Endgame posters. On the Infinity War poster, there are 24 characters (the 23 heroes and Thanos). On the Endgame poster, there are 11 characters (all heroes) but if we add Thanos, there is twelve.
Going back to the Infinity War poster, after the movie, we can confirm that out of the 24 characters on that poster:
- 12 Survive (Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Bruce Banner/The Hulk, Black Widow, War Machine, Rocket Raccoon, Nebula, Shuri, Okoye, Wong and Thanos)
- 10 Die by the Fingersnap (Star-Lord, Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, The Falcon, Bucky Barnes, Drax, Mantis and Groot)
- 2 Die in a special way (Gamora and The Vision).
A nice detail is that the number of characters is split into the half that die and the half that don't - perfectly balanced, as all things should be. Now, let's go back to the Endgame poster.
I think that on this poster, the ratio of surviving to dead characters is going to be the same, and here are the characters I think will die or will not:
- 6 Survive (Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Rocket Raccoon, Captain Marvel and Ant-Man)
- 5 Die throughout the movie (Captain America, Bruce Banner/The Hulk, Hawkeye, War Machine and Nebula)
- 1 Dies in a special way (Thanos). In this case, he would die in a special way because he is the one causing all of the other deaths.
It would be a nice reference to Avengers: Infinity War, its poster and Thanos' twisted philosophy.
- Jossed. Iron Man and Black Widow die, while the other heroes live.
Captain America: Since his second outing in the MCU, Steve Rogers has been a Fish out of Temporal Water. With the exception of Bucky Barnes, all of the people he knows and loves he left behind when he went into the ice seventy years ago. He feels like Captain America is the one remnant of his past he can hold onto, as without it, he doesn't know what he is and will have to change. This is referenced by Ultron in the second Avengers film, saying that Captain America is "pretending [he] could live without a war".
- His death could be a heroic sacrifice, possibly using Mjolnir to hold Thanos off as a leak had suggested. This could provide him an escape from a world he no longer feels comfortable to him, and make him eat his previous words to the Vision: "We don't trade lives".
- He could reappear in the second stinger - he and Peggy Carter would be in the afterlife, and he could give her the dance he never could seventy years ago.
- Jossed. He lives and travels back in time to be with Peggy,
Bruce Banner/The Hulk: It is common knowledge now that, in Thor: Ragnarok, Avengers: Infinity War and this film, Banner and the Hulk are going through a character arc - one that revolves around them working with each other and one not suppressing the other. At one point, the two could merge, Professor-Hulk-style, and wield a second Infinity Gauntlet against Thanos. Their death would act as penance for the terrible acts the Hulk had committed, while also providing Bruce the peace he had sought for years.
- Jossed. He lives.
Hawkeye: This one would hit particularly hard. Even though Hawkeye is among the least favourite of the original Avengers, he's definitely the Heart of the crew, the only one who's a parent and who balances a normal and superhero life. I have no idea how he could die, but it could just be a normal death, rather than a sacrifice, since I haven't predicted any of those yet.
- Jossed. He lives.
War Machine: Another one that would sting, not just for the characters but for the audience. Rhodey is Tony's best friend and narrowly avoided death in Civil War from The Vision. Like Cap, he was involved with war, and knows the value of taking a bullet for the team. The reason why his death would hit so hard is that multiple characters were involved with his paralysis, something which inhibited his movement: The Falcon, The Vision, Captain America, Bucky Barnes, Black Widow and Scarlet Witch, to varying degrees of fault. As well of those characters, it would, of course, hit Tony Stark the hardest, which would be interesting, if not incredibly painful, to watch.
- Jossed. He lives.
Nebula: This one's a given for many fans and MCU theorists. Out of the eleven poster characters for Endgame, Nebula is the only one with an incredibly personal connection to Thanos, being his adopted daughter. After killing half of her homeworld and most of the Guardians (including her sister Gamora), she has a massive vendetta against Thanos, even more than she did already. If Thanos were to kill Nebula, even though she is his "least favourite daughter", it would be a definite Moral Event Horizon for Thanos in this film, perhaps prompting him to have a My God, What Have I Done moment.
- Jossed. She lives.
Thanos: Lastly, there's the Mad Titan himself. After all the atrocities he's committed under the misguided goal of salvation, his arc in this movie could be perhaps through realising that he hasn't caused the Greater Good, and that he's actually preventing it. How he would come to this conclusion is anyone's guess, but a bit of Fridge Brilliance on the page to Infinity War sums up that Thanos isn't erasing half of all life because there's not enough to go around, but because there is, but life isn't using it properly. He could possibly ask someone like Tony, a futurist, to spread the message across the worlds on how to save life before it becomes extinct, before killing himself as penance for his crimes.
- Jossed. He remains convinced he was right.
- Jossed. He escapes when a rat hits the control button.
As for how the dead come back to life? It might have to do more with the Reality Stone than the Time Stone, instead altering reality itself to undo the deaths caused by it. Thus, this leads to the epic 40 character brawl that's been teased from the beginning.
- Jossed. There is time travel.
- Confirmed.
- To add to that. One of the Infinity Stones Thanos acquired in Infinity War is a Fake MacGuffin, which is the reason the Snap did not work as Thanos intended. It is either the Reality Stone (why would the God of Mischief who knew Thanos's threat all to well order it delivered to the Collector where the Mad Titan would easily claim it?), the Soul Stone (we still don't know how it works, whether it was Thanos's sacrifice that counted or, say, Gamora's de-facto sacrifice for Nebula, and we did not see how Thanos put it in the Gauntlet, it was just there when he woke up; as the description of the Human Sacrifice Trope says, "Be careful when sacrificing someone: It's not unheard of for the victim to get to make a deal instead of you"), the Time Stone (Doctor Strange could have tampered with it before giving it to Thanos even as he promised there would be no tricks) or any combination of the above.
- Jossed.
- The Sokovia Accords are still in force, most heroes turned into dust, and the world in worldwide disaster is not the place to be playing games. Cap will surrender and, in name or concept, the Avengers will turn into the Ultimates.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Thanos does lose (and is absolutely pissed aboutthe Avengers foiling his plans) and time travel was involved, but not in that way.
- Kate Bishop, becoming Hawkeye (as Clint Barton is returning as Ronin)
- A Gender Flip of a male character
- The daughter of Tony Stark and Pepper Potts (not technically a gender flip if true, but Infinity War's dialogue implied a son)
- Lady Loki (either with Hiddleson dubbing over her, or the two having a fused voice)
- Jocasta (who has been confirmed to exist via Freeze-Frame Bonus in Age of Ultron, as one of the chips Tony considers using to replace Jarvis with before deciding on Friday; in this version, she'd be Rescue's AI before eventually getting her Android body in a later movie)
- Terraxia (who Thanos creates using the Gauntlet to reassure him that he did the right thing, given that he can't create her after he gets dumped by Death (who doesn't exist in this movie), or has her origin changed to something different)
- Thanos's mother in a sequence set in the past.
- Mephista, who'll be a Composite Character with Mephisto (her father in the comics).
- If they do that, they have to include a Take That! towards One More Day.
- Moondragon
- Jessica Drew
- A normal civilian who plays some role
- All Jossed. She was actually playing adult Morgan Stark and the scene got cut because test audiences thought it too confusing and repetitive.
Fast forward to Endgame, Tony will be looking through SHIELD files, and upon finding Carol's dossier, and having no knowledge of the pager, will reason that she may have died in the snap or no longer be in contact with Earth, so he (or Ant-Man, or another Avenger) will go back to the 90s, immediately after the conclusion of Captain Marvel, in order to get her help in stopping Thanos.
Alternatively, she is facing a powerful opponent in the present day (played by an older actress), and receiving the page will distract her, and Carol-Prime will die, with the younger Carol coming from the 90s of an altered timeline. (This would also be a fairly easy hand-wave to explain Carol still appearing to be in her mi-to-late 20s after three decades have passed)
Overall, it may seem convoluted, but having Carol die in her own movie's stinger would be a massive twist, and having help from a past or future Avenger seems like a no-brainer for a time travel movie about reversing a cosmic genocide.
- Jossed. She shows up asking where Fury is in the Stinger of her own movie.
- Captain Marvel was dedicated to him, but there's no rule stating they can't dedicate 2 films to him.
- Joe Russo confirmed that Endgame will Stan Lee's LAST cameo for MCU which is very appropriate if you think about it.
- Said dictatorship is run by a villainous person incredibly corrupt to his/her core, if on nothing more than their newfound empire’s own self-preservation, expansion, and worship of themselves. Because of this, our heroes have to go back in time to stop Thanos before the snap occurs, since the empire blocks any moves they try to make in the present.
- Jossed. We see that diners still seem to be working.
- The Kree could also show up; the only ones who've had dealings with them are Captain Marvel and the Guardians, but they could take that issue out of the equation if the Kree that helped the Avengers never encountered either in their movies (perhaps we'll get Noh-Varr?).
- Jossed.
- Confirmed. They, along with the rest of the surviving heroes, partake in a Time Heist to get past versions of the Infinity Stones.
- Jossed. They don't have any direct interactions.
- Jossed. They don't have any significant interactions.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. They are all from the same time period.
- Jossed. He lives.
- Captain Marvel saves him.
- Confirmed.
- Rocket locates Nebula's ship. Bonus points for Stark being utterly confused by seeing a talking raccoon and wondering if he is hallucinating.
- Thor does a search and rescue mission for Stark.
- He gets rescued by Kraglin, who was looking for the Guardians' ship.
- Pepper and Rhodey will stage a rescue.
- Alternate Interpretation: That shot is from the END of the movie. Stark has managed to save Earth, and send everybody home through a wormhole. However, he gets stuck in deep space, and the recording he makes on his helmet is his best attempt at a last will and testament, if his craft is ever recovered.
- Likely jossed by the trailers, since both Stark and Nebula are shown in the white suits the rest of the Avengers are wearing, but not wearing said suits in space.
- Assuming he wasn't dusted, Wong shows up in a portal and takes Tony and Nebula back to Earth.
- If he was, it's rendered moot as Thor beheads him.
- Confirmed, though not quite as stated. He becomes a murderous vigilante to vent his rage and pain — he doesn't think his victims had anything to do with his family's deaths, but he resents the fact that lowlife criminals lived when his wife and children died.
- Confirmed. However it happens only 20 minutes in.
- Jossed. He punches a Leviathan with ease.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, though there is a massive army fighting Thanos in the climax.
- Confirmed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. He has the most screen time of any character save Nebula and the original 6 Avengers.
- Jossed.
- And then Rhodes will shut the quarrel down by reminding them that he's a colonel and outranks both of them.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. The stinger of Captain Marvel shows that she arrives peacefully, albeit a little worked up.
- Jossed. However the 2014 version of Ebony Maw appears.
- Jossed. According to Word of God, him being in the Quantum Realm had nothing to do with his survival.
- Related to this...
- Apparently, it's also to keep Tony alive as well, as he gave up the Time Stone to save Tony (which he earlier said he wouldn't do). And it makes sense because with Scott's idea of using the Quantum Realm for time travel and Tony being the one to make it possible, the combination of the two helped made the events of the Endgame win possible.
- Jossed. They don't appear and a rat gets him out.
- Confirmed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Thanos destroys the stones.
- Confirmed in that it starts with Hawkeye's family getting dusted. However, the time skip only happens after Thanos' death several weeks later.
- Jossed. She joins the Guardians.
- However, this attempt will fail, as Scott's slow movements thanks to the Square-Cube Law will prevent him from laying so much as a scratch on the Mad Titan, who doesn't necessarily have to follow the Square-Cube Law with the Reality Stone in hand.
- Alternatively, when Scott tries to meet Thanos's height, Thanos will just grow larger so that Giant-Man is downright puny compared to him.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. There is no stinger.
- Jossed. There is no stinger.
- Jossed. There is no stinger.
- Jossed.
- I knew someone was going to put that here...
- Alternatively, Thanos can shrink into Ant-Man's asshole.
- Jossed. Thor beheads Thanos and Tony turns the 2014 Thanos to dust.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Confirmed.
- Oooooooooooooh, no way Marvel Studios would be that stupid to make a One More Day movie...
- Jossed. According to him, it felt like he passed out.
- Jossed. It's him being stranded after escaping Titan.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Several minor characters appear.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. Cap returns the stones to their original times.
- Jossed. There is no stinger.
- Jossed, though Thor does go for the head.
- Confirmed in that a TV character appears, but Jossed in that it doesn't happen during the 40 characters action scene. Instead Jarvis from "Agent Carter" makes a brief appearance when Tony and Steve travel back to 1970.
- Jossed.
- Loki, Peggy Carter, and the Ancient One appear via time travel, but the rest don't.
Post-Release Theories
- Since everyone keeps talking about the damn rat. Just a reminder that A Wizard Did It is a genuinely plausible scenario here.
- Alternately Strange was the rat. He left his body in astral form before it dusted and had to inhabit the body of the rat which is something he had to do in the comics.
- For why it can't be Master Splinter, see the "foreshadowing" WMG below.
- In some continuities, Splinter was a pet rat before mutation, he could have been neutered.
- For why it can't be Master Splinter, see the "foreshadowing" WMG below.
Meaning that Venom is the hero the MCU deserves. *sniff* He's come a long way...
- The fugitive Loki had his own show. As for What If, to be seen.
- He'd be married to SHIELD's founder, so it wouldn't exactly be hard.
- Or she wasn't dead to begin with, because Present Nebula didn't shoot to kill, only to disable her previous self's capacity to move. She'd know the best place to aim to do that.
- Jossed. According to the Russos themselves, Steve going back to Peggy created an alternate timeline. As such, we can assume the same applies to the other timelines. Heck, remember that Banner explicitly states that killing baby Thanos wouldn't prevent their Thanos from performing the snap; it would just create an alternate timeline without adult Thanos.Joe Russo: If Cap were to go back into the past and live there, he would create a branched reality. The question then becomes, how is he back in this reality to give the shield away?
- Jossed. Loki's timeline was pruned by the TVA.
- Jossed by the Russos. Cap created a new timeline by going back to Peggy.
- In 2012, Loki escapes with the Tesseract. (You just know he must've fled halfway across the universe while he had the chance.)
- According to Loki, that timeline was pruned.
- In 2014, Thanos and his army travels to 2023/2024 — and never returns, as Tony destroys them with the Gauntlet.
- To add to this, the Russos have stated that Cap created a new timeline by going back to Peggy. As such, there's certainly room for him to, say, rescue Bucky and nip Hydra's infiltration of SHIELD in the bud.
- If he was really thinking ahead, he might even have arranged to return the Soul Stone last, then jumped from Vormir to Peggy's house within the same timeline. This would allow him to live out his life with her in a world where Thanos will vanish before the Snap can occur, so he won't need to worry so much that he might alter the course of events and inadvertantly give Thanos an advantage.
- Jossed. The TVA took it.
Borrowing a page from Back To The Future, there is a fan theory that suggests that George, at the end of the film, knew Marty had travelled back in time (in fact, there's a cut scene from the script for the first film where George, a sci-fi writer in the new timeline, realizes that Marty was 'Calvin Kline' from the 1950s). Howard Stark, being a man of science, would have eventually recognized how his boy Tony looked like a younger version of 'Howard Potts'. After being informed by Hank Pym that some of his Pym Particle samples were missing, being familiar with Hank's theories about the Quantum Realm, Howard may have put two and two together to realize he met the future version of his son. This would also explain why he hid the new element design in the model for the Stark Expo in Iron Man 2, as well left the message to Tony, who was only five years old or so when he was filming the Stark Expo reel. He knew that his future son would discover it and left it for him in case he needed it (if Howard realized that he met his future son after that moment in the scene, he probably knew Tony was really smart to figure out how to make time travel possible, so he knew Tony would have discovered the hidden blueprint for the power source he left behind for him).
- Jossed, at least for the prime MCU timeline. It's well established that time travel doesn't act like the time travel in Back To The Future.
- This has nothing to do with time travel like in Back To The Future. I was using a similar BTTF WMG in a similar context to this. Plus, Tony's meeting with his father wouldn't have had a major alternation to the prime MCU timeline anyway, and would, if anything, be a closed loop if it were the case.
- Still, Howard died when Tony was 21, and there's indication he was mostly absent from his life, so he might've not had enough contact with his son to get this conclusion. And is it really possible that Hank had already known this much about the Quantum Realm in 1970 (he delved deeper into studying that when Janet vanished) or that he and Howard were that close? (otherwise, it could be a good backstory for Howard leaving something for Tony in Iron Man 2, even if his son was only 4 during Stark Expo)
- Jossed, at least for the prime MCU timeline. It's well established that time travel doesn't act like the time travel in Back To The Future.
- One of the biggest questions that is raised by Steve Rogers going back to the past to be with Peggy was the other Captain still frozen in the ice. And all of the ramifications that that opened up. (Especially with Sharon Carter) Suppose however that Steve traveled back, told Howard Stark where his plane crashed (along with a few notes for Alt!Cap) and had the other Steve unfrozen to go meet Peggy, and eventually hand the shield over to Sam. Our Cap has already seen that alternate timelines (and meeting yourself) are a possibility from the whole Loki fiasco earlier in the movie.
- The "No, I don't think I will" was Alt!Cap's evasion of the fact that he's not the Steve that returned the stones. The shield itself is a clue. It was destroyed earlier in the movie, Cap didn't take it with him while he returned the stones to get it fixed, and yet it's sitting there next to him. Alt Cap! lived in an alternate timeline where he was awoken and his timeline merged with the main timeline at the moment our Cap skipped his return window at the end of the movie. Where is the original Cap? He's still out there somewhere
And it will quickly devolve into Loki kills the Marvel Cinematic Universe, with him slaughtering powerful heroes and villains alike, consolidating power, and eventually taking over the universe.
- Jossed. It starts there, but moved onto the multiverse.
- Alternatively, Noob Master 69 is a Thor fan. They stumbled across him, Miek, or Korg at some point while playing, and realized that if they keep annoying one or all of them, Thor will eventually get on the comm to berate them and make awesome Thor threats, and they love that. (Although that could also still be Loki.)
- Jossed: The Russos have stated that he's Wong.
- Alternatively, Rhodey could take up the mantle, as he did in the comics at one point.
- Further alternatively, Tony could return as an AI, possibly finally succeeding where he failed with Ultron.
- It's going to be Harley. They had to dedicate so much screentime to him for a reason.
- Words on the street is Ironheart, Marvel Comics has been pushing for this character like Carol.
- Or maybe he disassembled them at the quantum level. Their essence is still around, but not in any form that could have been usable to the Avengers.
- Confirmed by the Russos, who say the Stones still exist on "an atomic level."
- Note that we already have proof that breaking a Stone into pieces doesn't deprive the universe of its necessary energies, because the Mind Stone was broken into pieces (albeit temporarily) back in Infinity War without every sapient being in the MCU becoming a mindless vegetable. And the Aether was constantly roiling and churning, letting tiny flecks of itself spray off and be re-absorbed into the whole. Merely being dispersed isn't the same as being destroyed, for Infinity Stones; Thanos just took that to such an extreme, breaking them up right down to the subatomic level, and spread the bits so widely that nothing (short of another epic movie plot) is going to get them back together again.
- The Collector's account of the Infinity Stones' formation, back in Guardians 1, specifically says that the six Stones were forged from the universe's fundamental forces in the immediate wake of Creation. Presumably they don't have to stay congealed in that fashion in order for the universe's six original forces to exist, as the universe arose when said forces weren't yet condensed into chunks of rock.
- Unlikely, everyone involved with Endgame says those killed to get the Soul Stone don't resuscitate. Timey-Wimey Ball was necessary to have a Gamora in 2023 without reviving the one who died 5 years prior. Plus, Nat's solo movie makes clear she died and there's someone to follow her legacy as Black Widow.
- Let's hope not, else the resolution to Spider-Man: No Way Home becomes even more sad. Peter forfeits or loses far too much already; he doesn't need to lose an admiring little sister too.
- She wasn't talking about Clint and Natasha having a falling out. She was saying that she coordinated the ship to auto-pilot to the location. All Clint and Natasha had to do, was not "fall out" off the ship
- Wouldn't Asgard have ended up with two versions of the Tesseract, then?
- Jossed by Loki (2021). Although the fugitive Loki might decide to go back to his Asgardian days, even if it seems unlikely given all he's seen and experienced about time travel.
Then, five years later, all those people come back. But for them it hasn't been five years, it's been five minutes at most. One moment, everything's normal, the next, they've been legally dead for half a decade. They're also broke and unemployed - because they've been dead for five years, their savings and belongings have been claimed by their unsnapped next of kin, and assuming their employers survived the upheaval, the fact remains that after being gone for five years, their position was either filled by someone else or eliminated entirely.
The world now has over three billion bankrupt people in need of a job in it. And while there might be existing case law about people mistakenly declared dead trying to reclaim their estates from their inheritors, there's never been need to apply such law on a scale this huge before. Sorting this out will be quite difficult.
- It gets worse when one considers the political consequences. How many world leaders died in the Snap and have been replaced for the last five years? In democratic nations there'd be a constitutional crisis (whoever the president was in the MCU's 2018 likely wouldn't take being out of office now very well), in more totalitarian states quite possibly an outright civil war.
- Not an issue for the U.S. at least, as the duration of a Presidential term is dictated by the calendar, not by the subjective experience of the incumbent. If the latter had priority, both Reagan and Bush #2 would've had to postpone handing over power to their successors until late afternoon of Inauguration Day, because each of them had signed over Acting Presidential authority to their Veeps for a few hours before undergoing surgery during their time in office.
- Falcon and the Winter Soldier shows some part of this, namely that banks are still trying to deal with suddenly revived people, and others who turned to crime either as half the world was dusted or when they returned.
- Confirmed that he sees Sif again in Thor: Love and Thunder, but jossed that they become romantically involved.
- Betty did return, but that wasn't her at the funeral standing next to Ross. It was Maria Hill.
As stated by Doctor Strange in Infinity War, he could only see 1 potential future out of 14,000,605 that could be considered a win against Thanos. Between that moment and the finale of Endgame, this is a possible list of what had to go right for that 1 outcome:
- Infinity War
- Letting Quill's freakout happen (or else someone uses the freed Gauntlet and is unable to handle the power, allowing Thanos to recover in the aftermath).
- Tony living after the fight on Titan (or else the Avengers are unable to prepare and execute the time heist plan in Endgame).
- Nobody other than Tony and Strange is confronting Thanos at the moment Strange surrenders the Time Stone (to keep them from interfering with the surrender).
- Strange, himself, handing over the Time Stone compliantly enough that Banner will complain about it to the Ancient One (because it's the only thing that could convince her it's worth the risk to entrust it to a future Avenger).
- The battle in Wakanda going badly enough that Shuri isn't able to disconnect the Mind Stone from Vision for safe disposal before Thanos arrives, but not so badly that she and Wanda are forced to abort the disconnection procedure and kill Vision to destroy the Stone before Thanos arrives, either.
- In general, hoping that Thanos' snap leaves behind enough of the Avengers and allies to continue the fight (assuming that the Stones are capable of eliminating half the universe, but that the probability of getting dusted is 50% for everyone). Especially in some combination where there is at least one person who knows when and where to find each Stone at some point in the past.
- Banner not being Snapped, so there's someone on hand who can immediately recognize the implications of Scott's return despite Tony's withdrawal from the team.
- Peter Parker getting Snapped (giving Tony a personal reason to risk it all to reverse the Snap).
- Fury paging Carol for help (or else she may not have allied with the Avengers and later saved Tony and Nebula when they are stranded in space). Depending on what might have happened if she had been briefed by Fury instead of the surviving Avengers, Fury and Hill getting snapped, but lasting long enough to send the page.
- Ant-Man and the Wasp
- In general, the plot of the movie ending in favor of Scott and Hope (or else no Ant-Man to reunite with the Avengers, no knowledge of the Quantum Realm to undo Thanos' work, and no situation where Scott goes into the Quantum Realm to prove that time works different in there).
- Ghost, despite her attempted thefts, winning the sympathies of Scott and the Pyms, so they'll send Scott back into the Quantum Realm to collect particles they can use to help stabilize her condition (or else no reason for Scott to go back at that specific time).
- The Snap happening in the extremely narrow window when Scott is in the Quantum Realm.
- Hank, Hope and Janet getting snapped, but Scott not getting snapped (or else Scott either wouldn't have realized that time flows differently in the Quantum Realm since he wouldn't have been trapped there, or wouldn't have been around to tell the Avengers).
- The Wombats getting snapped so the Quantum Van winds up forgotten in a storage facility (else Luis might have sold it and/or mucked with its components in a naive attempt to bring Scott back himself).
- Scott having only a small supply of Pym particles on hand at the time Hank gets snapped (or else the Avengers might have sent more of their number on each leg of the Time Heist, potentially leading to more complications like how the Tesseract slipped through their fingers in New York).
- Scott being sent to gather particles instead of Hank, Janet, or Hope (Scott being the only one who's met the Avengers, and who doesn't hold the long-standing prejudice against the Stark family that Hank and presumably both Janet and Hope do).
- Endgame
- Carol not getting snapped away (or else she would not have been there to save the Avengers at critical times).
- Carol being able to find Tony and Nebula before they run out of air (or else Tony could not build the Quantum Tunnel and Nebula could not give the coordinates for the Power and Soul Stones).
- Thanos destroying the Stones after retiring (or else he could be tempted into doing more with the power).
- The van and the Quantum Tunnel are not significantly damaged in the turmoil following the Snap, or by sitting in storage for several years (or else it would not be able to turn back on).
- A rat randomly reactivating the Quantum Tunnel (or else no Scott to show the Avengers a plan to undo the Snap). This happens far enough in the future that Scott notices the time differential, but not so far that the Avengers are too badly out of shape and unable to fight Thanos; also too soon for the Quantum Van's reserve batteries to have degraded into uselessness.
- Bruce integrating with Hulk, creating someone capable of surviving using the Gauntlet, and smart enough to know what to do with it.
- Tony working out the space/time GPS and returning to the Avengers before they run out of Pym Particles trying to develop the time machine without it.
- Natasha pointing out that there are three Infinity Stones in New York during the events of The Avengers (Space creating the Chitauri portal, Mind in Loki's scepter, and Time with the Ancient One), allowing them to work in teams instead of going one-for-one (and thus ensuring they'll have both a sacrifice for the Soul Stone and someone to retrieve it).
- Natasha being correct about the Time Stone being in New York, despite Dr. Strange not even having taken up sorcery yet, because the Ancient One brought the Eye with her to defend the Sanctum rather than leaving it behind in Kamar-Taj.
- Thor deciding to take Mjolnir back to his reality and still proving worthy enough to do so (or else Thanos could have killed Thor, then Steve, then Tony).
- Thanos's opening bombardment of Avengers HQ not killing anything except a few sparrows.
- Steve, who may have been worthy of Mjolnir before Ultron came onto the scene, turning out to still be worthy.
- Scott's van not getting blown up in the early stages of the battle (or else there would have been a different plan to keep the Gauntlet away from Thanos).
- 2023 Nebula being able to make up with 2014 Gamora (preventing 2014 Nebula from stealing the second Gauntlet from Clint).
- Strange not telling Tony what happens in the 1 outcome (or else Tony could refuse to go through with the plan).
- Only the last two points of Ant-Man and the Wasp qualify, the others had already happened by the time Infinity War started.
- Eternals presents a new option: Thanos initially winning and snapping away half the universe for 5 years. Maybe one timeline had everything going right for the heroes and Thanos dying before he could perform the Snap... only for Tiamut's emergence to not be delayed and Earth to be destroyed before the Eternals could stop it.
- His grandson/great-grandson will be mixed race, have Steve's Superpowered Genetics, and join the Young Avengers as Patriot.
- Or maybe they'll resurrect the Marvel One-Shots to tie up loose plot-threads like that.
- It seems much more likely that Shuri will do that.
- Especially since Bruce, Tony, Thor, and/or others have already had five years in which to revive Vision, had they been capable of doing so without Shuri's help.
- Jossed. WandaVision shows SWORD took Vision's body trying to resurrect him, while Wanda creates a construct based on Vision with her powers, and both eventually combine to effectively revive him, without needing anyone else.
- Maybe Professor Hulk's snap didn't just resurrect those who were wiped out originally by the Snap. Maybe, somehow, Hulk overestimated his snap in his attempt to also bring Natasha back from the dead, and accidentally brought an alternate universe where the X-Men, Deadpool and the Fantastic Four existed into the MCU, fusing the two realities into one without being fully aware of it yet.
- So the 2014 timeline looks pretty cozy on the surface, doesn't it? No Snap, no more Thanos or his forces... but let's not be too hasty. Someone over on Headscratchers asked where he got enough Pym Particles to send his entire ship forward in time when Nebula only had enough to bring herself back. When you think about it, the answer's obvious — from Hank Pym himself. 2014 Thanos probably analyzed the vial so he could scan for traces of the particles from orbit. He then went to his version of Earth, tracked the sample to San Francisco, and forcibly took what he needed. Which doesn't bode too well for 2014 Earth... especially since Thanos knew by then that the Avengers were going to be more of a threat to his plans than he initially believed...
- Jossed, Joe Russo stated in an interview that Thanos and Ebony Maw used the Pym Particles they took from Present-Nebula to reverse engineer lots of new particles.
- Yeah, I just saw that. Article is here, if anyone else wants to read it.
- The Stones would have destroyed everything and would have to work with bits and pieces of various alternative timelines and parallel universes to try and make a new universe according to what they think Thanos wants. The result is a patchwork world floating a void, with only a single sun, and Know Where as its moon. Also the various other Marvel characters inhabit it including the Fantastic Four and the X-men. Since it's only a single world to manage, population numbers and birth rates stay within acceptable levels and the planet automatically recycles everything. Time and events are cyclic. Thanos takes the place of God-Doom, and everyone calls Thanos God and are grateful to him, not remembering the universe that came before.
- Plausible. And given the nature of the multiverse, that means this reality must exist somewhere. Fanfic fuel, at the very least.
- Wouldn't one need to have actually succeed in changing that particular past in order for its alternate reality to truly exist?
- Plausible. And given the nature of the multiverse, that means this reality must exist somewhere. Fanfic fuel, at the very least.
- If he did, the replica was probably originally crafted by Vision: the only Avenger besides Thor who knew what wielding Mjolnir actually feels like. Vision made it so he could practice in case he ever needed to use the real one again, but didn't mind Steve borrowing it.
Bruce Banner says he previously treated the Hulk as a disease. The Hulk being is also a disease or virus which suppresses itself when Bruce Banner isn't angry. When the Hulk being died in the Snap, the residual gamma radiation eventually transforms Bruce Banner into Professor Hulk. This is why only Bruce Banner has an astral projection when the Ancient One punches Professor Hulk, while the "other guy" is nowhere to be found. The resurrection snap at the end brings back the original Hulk as a separate being, who will be dealt with in a future movie or comic book series.
The comics version of Professor Hulk is the idealized version of Hulk and Bruce Banner, but this version seems to be lacking most of the Hulk's superpowers. He wears glasses, even though the Hulk has great eyesight. Gamma Radiation is supposed to make the Hulk stronger, but the Snap causes "irreversible damage" to his arm.
One of the most remembered quotes from the first Infinity War trailer ended up not appearing in the final film. But what if the line was never intended to be from Infinity War at all? Throughout that film, Thanos doesn't really take pleasure in what he's doing and believes everything he does is for the greater good. It would make no sense for him to say that line at any point during Infinity War.
But when the Thanos of 2014 arrives during the climax of Endgame, his whole worldview has changed. Now he knows the universe won't laud him as a savior, and his work will always run the risk of being undone. Thanos has become far more bitter than he was in Infinity War, and plans to kill everyone just so he can pretend to be the hero. Most notably, he says he's going to enjoy his armies tearing apart the Earth simply out of spite due to the Avengers constantly getting in his way.
Suddenly, that line from the Infinity War trailer makes far more sense to come from this Thanos, one who takes pleasure in watching his foes suffer before him. The line was probably meant to forshadow the real fight against Thanos a few films early, but was cut for one reason or another. Why? Maybe the Russos thought the new line was better written and less distracting than the old one. Or maybe both lines were part of a large piece of dialouge that had to be trimmed for the final film.
The movie makes it clear that even those erased by the power of the Infinity Stones can still be brought back using the Stones again. Surely Thanos and his minions can't really be gone for good? Surely all it would take is someone who needs the Mad Titan and his army for some end, and who has the power to do so, to go through time and collect the Stones again. Even if Marvel doesn't use this plot for several years, it seems like there's still an opening for Thanos to return.
- Jossed. A deleted scene shows she survived.
Through the time stone, he foresaw a greater danger after Thanos, and allowing Thanos to succeed was the only way that the heroes will be able to defeat *that*. Now after the events of Endgame, the main Marvel universe is equipped with several elements it didn't previously have.
- Knowledge of how to use Pym particles for time travel
- Several newly created alternative timelines
- Multiversal travel
This is why the Ancient One relented and gave Banner the stone, because she realised that Strange would only give Thanos the stone if he saw a threat that is worth gambling half an universe for. The only thing that can be is a threat that could destroy multiple universes - something like the Beyonders.
Taking this into consideration, this puts a new perspective into what Strange needed to look for in terms of a "winning" timeline. He has to find timelines where he's alive, where everyone who needs to survive does so, and where Thanos' actions are either averted or minimizes. This could mean many things:
- There are timelines in which Strange dies in battle or some other circumstance. The Avengers could only resurrect people who were killed by the snap, so Strange dying any other way means he's dead for good, which means he can't see any further, which means to him, that timeline is as good as gone.
- However, out of millions of timelines, it is possible that there is a timeline where Strange dies but the heroes otherwise win or undo the damage. Unfortunately, he wouldn't be able to know for sure, and he cannot afford any risks.
- Borrowing from that, there could be timelines where Strange survives but the circumstances surrounding that timeline aren't worth it. For example, the heroes would defeat Thanos but be unable to undo the snap. Or, they can stop Thanos from performing the snap but be unable to defeat the man himself and fall to his armies while he razes the Earth. Endgame is the "winning" timeline, but there could've been a lot of "okay" timelines. If Scott died to the snap, then the Avengers would never discover time travel. They couldn't get the infinity stones back, but 2014!Thanos also wouldn't travel to the present, leaving a timeline that mourns their losses but is otherwise able to move on.
- Similarly, if Thanos' snap is completely random, then it's possible that key figures like Scott or Tony would die while Strange is alive, and they are unable to play their part.
- The events unfolding as they did also means that there is pretty much no timeline in where they are able to avert the snap entirely, and barely any where they pull off the Time Heist without a hitch. Thanos is so strong and his plan so foolproof that him outright failing is a mathematical impossibility.
- It may have been played for laughs but they introduced a way to turn an old character young.
- Tony Stark is always Crazy-Prepared and can't resist tinkering with one thing or another. We also know that programming A.I.s isn't all that difficult for him since he has multiple. He's already planned for his death and has copied his psyche in a digital format to use as the AI he's going to upload to Pepper's Rescue armor so he can always be with her and protect her. Even when he can't be physically present, he is still there in spirit (digitally speaking).
- When Bruce visits the Ancient One, she alludes to the six Infinity Stones essentially creating/maintaining space-time, and indicates that horrible things will happen if Bruce removes the stone from her universe. Bruce convinces her to give up the stone because doing so appears to be part of Strange's plan, and because the stone will be returned immediately after he takes it. But Bruce never mentioned that the stones were destroyed in the future. If the Ancient One was cagey about letting one stone leave her universe, what would the reaction be upon finding out about the destruction of all six? She might have just been upset because the Time Stone is her main weapon against the likes of Dormammu, but if the stones actually keep reality flowing, then their destruction might mean that the universe as we know it would eventually crumble.
Basically, does the Ancient One just not want to give up a potent weapon in Earth's sorcerous battles, or do the stones existing somehow keep the universe existing? Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) states that the stones were forged from the remnants of systems, which implies that "a" universe of some kind existed before them, but that "universe" might have been the darkness before our universe that Odin describes in Thor: The Dark World. There was darkness, but there was obviously mass or the Dark Elves couldn't have existed, so it's not outside belief to assume that the systems the stones were forged out of came from the darkness — and the creation of the Infinity Stones birthed our universe in light.
If this is so, then the stones' destruction might eventually lead our universe to ruin — except a version of the Space Stone still exists, since it was removed from 2012 New York, which took place before the Snap, but which, according to Bruce, is still a version of the future. If the Space Stone still exists in our universe, having one stone at least (and the Space Stone, no less), might be enough to keep everything going.
Or did Loki's theft of the stone simply generate another universe and the stones are still destroyed in "our" universe? Spiderman Far From Home is apparently opening up the multiverse, so maybe the stones still exist in other universes and that's enough to keep our universe going? Or maybe they're not actually needed to maintain reality, regardless of whether a new branch of the universe was created back in 2012 or not.
I honestly have some difficulty wrapping my brain around how exactly the time travel works in this movie — the characters clearly felt the need to return the stones to where they were, even though taking them purportedly took place in their futures, so that would imply a consistent universe requiring a sort of Stable Time Loop... except Nebula can kill her past self and still exist and the ending of The Avengers (2012) obviously changed completely, with the Avengers now freaking out about the loss of Loki and the Tesseract. So what events created an alternate branch of reality and what didn't, or did any events create an alternate branch of reality, or is reality just a big stew and as long as stuff takes place "in one's future" the pass is irrelevant?
Anyone?
- Drax didn't know Tony for long, but he must have a huge amount of respect for him. Tony was not only a fierce and determined warrior, but he fought for his family. Tony managed to succeed where Drax failed and protect his wife and daughter from Thanos. And of course he was the final instrument in avenging Thanos' many victims, and ridding the universe of his threat. Now that Thor and Drax are sure to swap war stories, it stands to reason that Drax will want to hear the ones about Iron Man, and then tell them to anyone who will listen.
- A clearly unstable Wanda has lost so much since Age of Ultron, and will seek out Ghost and Clint Barton to try helping her go back and make her own Gauntlet. But when she tries to bring Vision and her brother back, it goes horribly awry. This drags Fox's Pietro Maximoff, the Fantastic Four and the X-Men's continuity and the MCU together, and introduces the Incursions, Emperor Doom and Secret Wars storylines.
- Sort of? WandaVision did show Wanda reviving Vision, but through her own powers. Fox's Quicksilver appears, but only as a Red Herring. And she will try to revive people afterwards, but her "imaginary sons", and through magic.
- All that happens in Endgame, after the intro, takes place in Tony's mind as he's slowly suffocating to death, stranded on the spaceship with Nebula.
- This would mean that Tony would've been dreaming of the resolutions to events he had no idea happened and people he never met before this movie. Is Spider-Man: Far From Home meant to be a hallucination too? Why would Tony, in his supposed dying moments, care about Korg playing video games, Peter getting a certain necklace for MJ, anything involving Scott, Ned's strange relationship with Betty, or any number of things?
- As highlighted in the Esoteric Happy Ending entry on the YMMV page, Tony simply resurrecting everyone killed by the First Snap will cause a lot of emotional and logistical problems that would be just as nightmarish as their original deaths. Furthermore, two very good Avengers were Killed Off for Real to make it happen. There were probably hundreds, even thousands of other timelines where The Avengers saved the universe, but Strange didn't count them because of how many lives they would cost in the long term (and on top of that, he probably expected the Avengers to use the Stones to erase The Snap from happening altogether). As that kind of Doctor, Strange is a Technical Pacifist who abhors killing, and would only count a timeline where Everybody Lives (possibly even Thanos himself) as a true victory.
- Dissatisfied with his career, and upon seeing billions of people disappearing, Ken Jeong quietly stayed low for a while before he could craft a disguise and slip away.
- Steve was reunited with Peggy, but had to assume a new identity. Using some plastic surgery and his SHIELD contacts they created the identity of Fred Rogers, a minister from Pittsburg. He eventually hosted a very popular television show for children imparting his wholesome values. It's also why Mr. Rogers is worthy of Thor's hammer.
- We know he spent the five years after the first Snap helping people cope with their grief, so it's the kind of charitable work he'll be familiar with, that old age won't inhibit him from carrying out. And he can certainly empathize with the disorientation and confusion that the Unsnapped must surely feel, coming back from the dead into a world that has moved on, albeit by only five years' time rather than seventy.
- Asgard is an advanced civilization. To them, Earth's technology should be at the level of a lowly medieval era compared to XXI Century's WAKANDA. Yet, they are stranded on Earth and made a small fishing village. When they joined at the Battle for Earth we saw that they weren't devoid of their resources: They still had their weapons, armors and will to fight, and it's pretty sure they still have the remains of their ship, and they have pilots, mechanics, wizards and scientists. How will they impact on Earth's culture? If anything, just one week of one of those Asgardians sharing their knowledge with Tony or Shuri would catapult Earth to a galactic expansion era!
- On the other hand, the Space Stone was powered by the Power Stone, so maybe is the contrary, and Carol is even more powerful now than before (But should that be the case, why didn't she defeated Thanos in that very moment?)
Sequel Theories
- Kate Bishop
- Wiccan
- Speed
- Shuri