Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Shinobi TV Tropes' dedicated hee-ssential worker. from Arizona, USA Since: Jul, 2018 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu

TV Tropes' dedicated hee-ssential worker.

#207276: Apr 8th 2024 at 10:57:19 AM

Make sure to add Filthy Frank to the Hall of Mature Humor, as well.

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#207277: Apr 8th 2024 at 1:12:17 PM

Meteora has been moved to Sources of Information and the Homestuck Kids have been moved to Life and Creation.

Here are my updated sandboxes for the Mature Humor and Noise And Silence Halls. Are they ready to go now?

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

TrueChaos Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining

#207278: Apr 8th 2024 at 1:12:54 PM

@Crownless Mimic Mind if I put the Ohsama Sentai Kingohgers as the High Priests for Moccamori in her profile?

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#207279: Apr 8th 2024 at 1:45:16 PM

With the trope Swamp Monster, I am wondering if anyone feels it is better fit for an existing deity like Swamp Thing or the Gill-Man, or someone new should have it

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Apr 8th 2024 at 9:14:25 PM

Titania21 Can the Dragon rest? from Deep Since: Jan, 2020 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu

Can the Dragon rest?

#207280: Apr 8th 2024 at 3:26:57 PM

Here is my Hall of Poses And Positions. Is it ready to go or I need to add more deities?

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#207281: Apr 8th 2024 at 3:42:50 PM

Looks good to me so

Mature Humor and Noise And Silence are now live.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Apr 8th 2024 at 3:42:59 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

J99908 The Pride of Nazumah from Nazumah (duh) Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun

The Pride of Nazumah

#207282: Apr 8th 2024 at 3:46:54 PM

I've started up Hedonismbot and Pyke, I'm looking for:

For Pyke:

Sea monsters, especially those known to swallow its victims.
Evil captains.
Revenants
People who have Ghost Amnesia or are/have been manipulated by a greater entity.
People who control water/are associated with the ocean

For Hedonismbot

Hedonists, hard partiers, promiscuous people, etc.
People who oppose such behavior.
Anyone who takes hedonism too far.
Maybe evil robots?

Pyke, Godly Sufferer of Nautical Insanity (The Bloodharbor Ripper, Fish-Man Pyke (by Braum), The Ripper, The Drowned Man)

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Intermediate God, formerly a Quasideity before being swallowed by the Jaull-Fish
House: Types of Madness
Symbol: His bone skewer piercing a long list with many names on it
Theme: Pyke, The Bloodharbor Ripper
Alignment: Chaotic Evil, formerly True Neutral. Chaotic Neutral when freed from the Jaull’s influence
Portfolio: Driven Insane By The Monsters Of The Ocean, Murders Anyone On His List, Quite Joking If You Aren’t A Target, Themed Around Sharks, Always Wears A Bandana, A Bloodthirsty Black Man, Out To Kill All Who Let Him Drown, A Ghost Driven By Revenge, The Jaull Manipulates His Memory To Achieve Its Own Goals, Has A Very Long List Of People Who Watched Him Drown, Minor Control Over Water
Domains: Insanity, The Ocean, Monster Hunting, Harpoons, Murder
Allies: The Salmonoids, The Champions of Runeterra (especially Ahri, Illaoi, and Yasuo), The Kraken, Bruce
Enemies: The Benevolent One Piece Deities, Percy Jackson, The Wolf, Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann, The Benevolent Splatoon Deities, Risky Boots, The Ghostbusters
Interests: Hody Jones, Cth ulu
Interested In: Jonah
Worthy Opponent: Popeye the Sailor Man
Odd Friendship With: The Spy
Once the best harpooner working on Bilgewater’s slaughter docks, Pyke’s life was full of constantly hunting monsters in search of more and more pay. On one fateful expedition, he and the crew of the ship he was working encountered the legendary jaull-fish, renowned for its rarity and high price. After jumping into the creature’s jaws in an attempt to kill it, the fish’s pod mates began to crash against the ship, causing the captain to panic and cut Pyke’s lifeline, sending him to the depths. Instead of dying, Pyke woke up in the beast’s mouth, surrounded by ancient voices that crushed his mind with visions of the people who took advantage of him. Now with a newfound sense of revenge and controlled by mysterious beings, he goes on a spree, murdering captains, then first mates, then practically everyone related to the slaughter docks. Striking fear into the very heart of the monster-hunting city, he carves through his list with no intent on stopping.
The Hall of Piracy was in an uproar. The captains of many ships began turning up dead, their corpses strung up by morning, with the few witnesses speaking of a masked man who asked if they were a captain and brutally cutting them down when they confirmed it. Soon, more people began dying; cooks, repairmen, and even the occasional fencer of stolen goods were being murdered in gruesome ways. Shortly after, authorities began looking into the killings, and found out the identity of the murderer: a mysterious revenant named Pyke. Arresting him, they soon found out that he had been ascended as Godly Sufferer of Nautical Insanity by the mysterious beings that control him. Reluctantly let go, Pyke is now eager to cross out any new names on his list.

Hedonismbot, Godly Representative of Grapes As A Sign Of Wealth

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Demigod
House: Meals (A to M)
Symbol: A Bunch Of Purple Grapes
Theme: N/A
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Portfolio: Frequently Eats Grapes As A Sign Of His Wealth, Constantly Indulges In Sexual Escapades And Parties, Is Actually A Pretty Nice Person, Doesn’t Care Who He Has Sex With, Uses Taxpayers’ Money To Fund His Activities, A Large Robot Who Loves To Party, Built Entirely Out Of Gold
Heralds: His servant (and possible lover) Djambi
Allies: Barbarella, Bender, Homer Simpson, Barney Gumble
Enemies:
Opposed By: The Phantom Thieves Of Hearts
A hard-partying robot who loves to engage in all kinds of sexual activities, Hedonismbot has the idea of hedonism in his very programming. As such, he constantly indulges in everything from drinking to eating to orgies, always ready to have as much fun as possible. Using the funds he obtains as a senator to pay for all his decadent pursuits, he is built to do nothing but engage in hedonism, eat grapes, and party.
Hedonismbot was at yet another party, having the time of his life as usual, when a strange man walked up to him, struck up a conversation, and informed him that a place called the Trope Pantheon was planning to ascend him as the Godly Representative of Grapes As A Sign Of Wealth. Humorously, Hedonismbot thought that this was all the setup to some kinky role play session, and responded in kind by making some less-than-subtle sexual remarks towards the man. Obviously shocked, the messenger had to explain what the Pantheon was to Hedonismbot, who found himself quite intrigued by all the things he heard, and was quite pleased to hear that there were other people there who shared his “interests.” He enthusiastically accepted the messenger’s offer, eager to reach this place and party like there’s no tomorrow.

Edited by J99908 on Apr 8th 2024 at 6:47:16 AM

Better to fight, than to live in fear.

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#207283: Apr 8th 2024 at 3:54:30 PM

For Pyke, Monstro is a whale who swallows people whole. Rahab and Octogeddon are also dangerous sea monsters.

For Hedonismbot, Ronnie "Z-Man" Barzell hosts hedonistic orgy parties. Emperor Calus is very hedonistic and enjoys the extravagant pleasures of life. Slaanesh is the god of hedonism.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

DoodSlayer136 Somehow, Gonkatine Returned from Exegol (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Somehow, Gonkatine Returned

#207284: Apr 8th 2024 at 4:34:52 PM

for Hedonismbot, Louie is another person who focuses on indulging himself, though he mostly limits it to just eating food and having fun. It also mostly comes at the expense of others around him.

NOISE IS CALLING, PICK UP PHONE

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated

Dagded Dujardin

#207285: Apr 8th 2024 at 4:35:08 PM

Lagiacrus and Ceadeus and their subspecies are sea creatures who are known for being aggressive. Particularly, Goldbeard Ceadeus and Abyssal Lagiacrus are known to inhabit abyssal depths out of reach for most other creatures and Ceadeus resembles a whale.

Edited by VengefulBale on Apr 8th 2024 at 8:40:59 AM

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."

mdalsted mdalsted from Chisago City, MN Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity

mdalsted

#207286: Apr 8th 2024 at 5:07:40 PM

(Gonna need one more arrow, Venge)

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.

Titania21 Can the Dragon rest? from Deep Since: Jan, 2020 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu

Can the Dragon rest?

#207287: Apr 8th 2024 at 6:54:11 PM

Hall of Poses And Positions is firmly up.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#207288: Apr 8th 2024 at 7:18:44 PM

I imagine Hedonismbot would be considered an embarassment by many A.I. Is a Crapshoot deities like Sigma for using his given AI for shameless pleasure instead of something more serious like machine supremacy. He's part of the League of Robots that have some degree of robot supremacy in their pitch but they're really just a Brotherhood of Funny Hats. I also imagine other good/neutral/less evil robots who are serious would treat his status as a hedonistic robot to be weird and bemusing, or awkward and uncomfortable

I am contemplating upgrading my old Mr Mxyzptlk profile. Especially for a major Superman character it feels I wasn't giving my A game. The Unpronounceable remains a good fit for the guy; his name has zero vowels and uncommon words. It varies to how it's pronounced, his name used to have the l and t the other way around but by the Silver Age the writers mispelled it and it stuck, and all his race has the same lack of vowels. No wonder he considers it a challenge to make the name backwards. One notable fact about the guy is that Superman Reborn says all Mxys unless stated otherwise are the same guy...and it's been put to the test

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#207289: Apr 8th 2024 at 7:19:58 PM

for reworking Mr. Mixy

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

CrownlessMimic Ring Pointilist Student from Ring Studio Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Ring Pointilist Student

#207290: Apr 8th 2024 at 9:21:25 PM

@ J99908: The Kraeken are a race of eldritch sea monsters.

Luthor Harkon is an insane vampire pirate.

Sissel under the Ghost Trick cast is a ghost driven to remember who he was and why he died.

The King of Armello was corrupted by the Rot into becoming an insane despot. Sylas (also ascended with the Armello heroes) is guided by a mysterious voice prompting him into taking revenge. Yan Vismok, even in his rebellion against them, was strung along by the Prescripts/Will of the City and the revelation broke him into becoming subservient to them.

Bremen of the Reverb Ensemble is a trio of Mad Artists fused into one humanoid chimera who seek to recreate the colors and pleasures that the Pianist once did with its performance.

A universe of infinity held within a singular dot. Thus a collection of dots a collection of infinities does it become...

Skootz524 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!

#207291: Apr 9th 2024 at 10:56:28 AM

Alright, thanks to RJ's suggestion, I am reposting this now that it has been one month since MatPat's final theory (March 9).

MatPat, god of Wild Mass Guessing (Yeah yeah, I know Game Theory is a bit of a hot subject matter around these parts, but he basically is the most well-known/popular theory guy on the internet, for good and for ill. Plus, it might be a good tribute after his retirement/step-back/Ascension to a higher plane of existence)

I'll also be reposting my other suggestions, considering it was April 1st, and I want to be sure if the thumbs up were serious.

The Six-Pint Inn Patrons^note: Collective Gods of Castof Expies (Weasel Kid is basically every 90s Mascot with Attitude thrown into a blender, Bryce is you average fighting game character that also has a bit of Cooking Mama in him, Chandrelle is a basic Black Mage/Lady of Black Magic from a JRPG, Rust wouldn't be out of place in early Fallout game, the only thing setting ??? apart from most Walking Simulator protagonists is that he has arms, and Reggie is Tapper that grew to have a vendetta against his creator)
Agent Phoenix and The Handler: Operation: [Blank] (Every mission from the games has Operation: [Blank] as a title...nothing too serious, and the KND are already taken)

Edited by Skootz524 on Apr 9th 2024 at 2:31:51 PM

EVEN IF YOUR CHOICES DON'T MATTER, THEY WILL STILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES

Shinobi TV Tropes' dedicated hee-ssential worker. from Arizona, USA Since: Jul, 2018 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu

TV Tropes' dedicated hee-ssential worker.

#207292: Apr 9th 2024 at 11:13:45 AM

to MatPat and the IEYTD duo.

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form

#207293: Apr 9th 2024 at 11:34:25 AM

….

Suggestions?

No-Thumbs Mode

“Oh no, not-(GASP). I-I-I can’t say it! This is a villain so evil, so sinister, so horribly vile, that even the utterance of his name strikes fear into the hearts of men! The only safe way to refer to this King of Darkness is simply… HIM…”

HIM, The Unholy Flaming Devil (His Infernal Majesty, King of Darkness, Ths Evillest Of Evils, Kare, Satan, The Devil)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/himppg.png

^{HIM’s Powerpuff Girls Z Design}

Overdeity
Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Symbol: His Grin and Claws
Portfolio: FLAMING DEVIL, Laughably Evil yet Knight of Cerebus all the same, Vile Villain, Saccharine Show, Making Reality His Toy, Psychological Warfare, Can Grow Stronger Through The Negativity Of Living Beings, Satanic Archetype, Sissy Villain, Villains Out Shopping
Domains: Devils, Demons, Reality Warping, Evil, Minds, Control, Manipulation, Power
Heralds: The Rowdyruff Boys, Fuzzy Lumpkins (Shared with Mojo Jojo)
Allies: Princess Morbucks, The Incubators, Kefka Palazzo, Yuuki Terumi, Dimentio, King Piccolo, John Dee/Doctor Destiny, Bill Cipher, Dio Brando, Lord English (As Caliborn), Red Guy, The Devil (Cuphead), Mephisto
Rivals: Mr. Mxyzptlk, Aku
Villainous Friendship with: Mojo Jojo
Enemies: THE POWERPUFF GIRLS, Professor Utonium, The Powerpuff Girls Z, YHVH, Homura Akemi
Former Ally: Discord
The Devil of Townsville, HIM. HIM is a mysterious demonic entity with great power, with a true name that is unknown. HIM is a cruel being who enjoys committing evil and has the ability to warp reality however he sees fit, and yet sometimes does things outside of evil, like exercising and running a restaurant. From manipulating Bubbles into unwittingly aiding in his schemes twice, to turning all of Townsville against the Powerpuff Girls, to trapping them in their worst nightmares, to resurrecting the Rowdyruff Boys, to even causing a Bad Future that left the Powerpuff Girls scarred, HIM is responsible for a lot. While Mojo Jojo may be the Arch-Enemy of the Powerpuff Girls, HIM is by far the most powerful and dangerous of their foes, and is more than willing to perform a Villain Team-Up with others, as seen with the Beat-Alls incident.
It was a dark night in the Pantheon when people who were asleep suddenly wouldn’t wake up and were having nightmares of what they feared. Oddly enough, the Powerpuff Girls were not included in this number, and thanks to Klonoa and NiGHTS, managed to enter the Dream of Chibiusa Chiba alongside Sailor Moon, Tuxedo Mask, Sailor Saturn and Sailor Pluto. Here, they found her being tormented by facsimiles Of Wiseman and Black Lady, who were both dealt with by the heroes and Chibiusa was saved. However, a laugh very familiar to the Powerpuff Girls echoed throughout the dream, and to their horror, HIM emerged from what was left of the false Wiseman, revealing that while he doesn’t do repeat performances, this technically wasn’t one, as he didn’t target the girls, and also included the fact that this scheme was specifically to let them know that he had arrived. He then added that he’d invited himself to the Pantheon before fighting them. Eventually, he cackled and told the Powerpuff Girls that they’d be seeing a lot more of him from now on before leaving the Dream and releasing those who were trapped in their sleep by his power.

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…

lawliet-saw-whet Resident Trope Lurker from SOCIETY BEAR, SOCIETY BEAR, SOCIETY BEAR (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady

Resident Trope Lurker

#207294: Apr 9th 2024 at 4:01:12 PM

The Hall of Slumber And Sleepiness is now currently live.

After much thinking, I'm requesting to switching The Driver's trope from the kinda effy Never Trust a Trailer to the more appropriate Sunshine Noir. As the movie takes place in the sunshine filled and night-light filled town of Los Angeles (with lots of shots of the view beautiful of the city), the settings looks a lot different for most crime noirs set in a dreary city background. It's no to say it is perfect as there is a seedy criminal underbelly underneath, mobs fighting for money and robberies occurring sometimes.

I'm aware that Chinatown was the Trope Codifier. However, the term "Sunshine Noir" was started by author James Sallis to describe the settings of his novels Drive and it's Driven (former novel is where the movie was based on). Also, I talked to Nightelf 37 (who has it was adoptable for J.J. "Jake" Gittes) and says it's okay for me to switch the trope. Switching to this trope would also help me reference the novel, which would help expand his possible motivations for why he does crime in the first place. Plus, I'm sure the characters from Chinatown can get a better trope for them.

Mood Status: Currently suffering from cringe.

Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

uwu

#207295: Apr 9th 2024 at 4:06:35 PM

for the trope change.

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!

Snailfish The Timeless One from The planet Oban Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal

The Timeless One

#207296: Apr 9th 2024 at 8:46:20 PM

Feel I'm just about done with Tomoo and Yatsu, personally.

Tomoo and Yatsu, Unholy Duo of Mechanical Transformations(Tomoo: The Salaryman, Yatsu: The Metal Fetishist)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tetsuo_salaryman.jpg

Tomoo (fully transformed)

Yatsu

Potential House(s): Cybernetics and Enhancements, Transformations
Intermediate Gods(can evolve into Greater Gods through assimilation)
Symbol: Their combined form, a massive, Phallic metal...thing
Theme Song: Drop Hammer or Megatron
Alignment: Tomoo: True Neutral(eventually Chaotic Good) Yatsu: Chaotic Evil
Portfolio: Both: Moody gray shading, Bizarre Imagery and Narrative, Nightmarish Mutations into Machinery, Bizarre Superpowers over Metal,Cybernetics Eat Your Soul, Can be interpreted as a ''really'' weird love story, Phallic Symbolism, Alternate Continuity
- Tomoo: An Average Japanese office worker until his transformation, which was Punishment for leaving Yatsu for dead, a Gradual and agonizing one, Developed a huge power drill from his you-know-what, Actually Yatsu's brother in a sequel timeline, Gains a Superpowered Evil Side.
- Yatsu: A mentally unstable vagrant who became a world ending abomination, Lightning Bruiser, Misanthrope Supreme, Laughing Mad, Has Pitiful Origins, Seeks to destroy and remold everything while stalking and torturing Tomoo out of ''Love'', Utterly Insane, Utterly Depraved and Utterly Bombastic
Allies:
- Tomoo: Bruce Banner, Cameron Vale, Gregor Samsa, Larry Talbot, Hank Pym, Astro Boy,Alex Murphy/Robocop, Cyrak.
- Yatsu: Tetsuo Shima, Cell, Hank Henshaw, Gigan, AM,Ultron, The Qu, T-1000, SKYNET, Sektor, The Cybermen.
Enemies: Both: The Child Abuse Supporters, Darryl Revok, The Enchantress
- Tomoo: Freddy Krueger, Diavolo, Shou Tucker, Gendo Ikari, Dr. Gero
- Yatsu: All life Organic or otherwise who oppose him, but more specifically:All Cybertronians, Metallo, Cyborg, Tim Barnett, Kevin Levin,Poison Ivy, Magneto, Gorilla Grodd, Toph Bei Fong
Special Relationship: Each other(brothers in one timeline)
Intrigued by:(Yatsu) The Thing, Sadako Yamamura,Tomie Kawakami, The FaceHuggers
Rivals:(Yatsu)The Borg Collective
Of Interest to:The SCP Foundation
Pitied by: Meilin Lee(mostly Tomoo)
The story of the "Iron Men" begins with an average Japanese Salaryman and his girlfriend. One day, the unassuming businessman was driving home with his girlfriend until they accidentally ran over a pedestrian. This pedestrian, however, was the man known as "the Metal Fetishist" so called for his unusual fixation on metal applied to his body. The couple, unaware of this, believed the man dead, hid his body, and tried to move past their dark deed. But the Salaryman had received a curse or perhaps gift from the Fetishist. The man's body slowly began taking on the properties of metal, his mind plagued with horrific visions of a cybernetic nightmare. Eventually the Salaryman's transformation led to his girlfriend's death, and the Metal madman himself arrived to complete the transformation as part of his mad desire to share his agony with his victim. The two engaged in a brutal battle of metal and flesh, eventually combining into a monstrosity that sought to rust away the world with their newfound "love".
At least that's how one version of the story goes. Another account tells of a salaryman named Tomoo, who led an ordinary life with a loving wife and child, but had no memory of his past. That life was shattered when Yatsu, AKA the Metal Fetishist, targeted him for his depraved plans. Tomoo's young son was murdered, and he plunged into despair, awakening the metal-morphing powers he shared with Yatsu-actually his brother. Tomoo went on a brutal rampage against Yatsu's cult to save his wife, and soon discovered the truth of his past. The boys' father was a metal molding maniac as well, experimenting on his children to create human weapons. With this awful revelation, Tomoo succumbed to his brother's urging and evolved into a massive, tank like juggernaut. Amid the destruction however, it seems Tomoo found peace, as he apparently shifted back to human form with his wife and revived son.
- Some time later Yatsu resurfaced, this time targeting another Cyborg named Anthony. Yatsu threatened Anthony's son to control him as a new weapon. But the super Cyborg fought the Metal Fetishist and ultimately averted suffering Tomoo's fate, and Yatsu was absorbed by Anthony's own power, gone for good...at least for now.
Eventually the Salaryman(Tomoo) was welcomed into the Pantheon gates. He hoped to find a nice place to settle down and put his metal nightmare behind him. Unfortunately there was a reason he was there, and the other inductee surfaced shortly after. Initially disoriented, the Metal Fetishist soon set to work seeking new metal to absorb and fuse with for power and pleasure. Tomoo was filled with terror as he realized his brother was coming for him. Yatsu seeks to expand his love of chaos and transform the Pantheon into his twisted view of beauty, and he wants to be one with Tomoo to do it.
Applies to Both:
- Despite everything, neither will say they hate the other(although neither are mentally sound). The Salaryman/Tomoo on some level feels guilty for indirectly causing his enemy's transformation, as in one timeline he left Yatsu for dead and in another his murder of their parents inspired the boy with a love of devastation. The Metal Fetishist/Yatsu claims their "love" transcends mortal flesh and hopes that someday Tomoo will come to see his point of view. Nobody sane buys that though.
- Although they outwardly appear to human, both Yatsu and Tomoo will morph into horrifying machine monsters under stress, leaving unpredictable devastation where they go. Tomoo has tried to seek help for this, leading to him joining a "support group" of sorts with similar individuals like Dr. Bruce Banner and the Lycanthrope Larry Talbot. Banner knows well the trauma of being a walking weapon, and he's shared Tomoo some techniques to tame his anger. Yatsu, meanwhile, seeks to unleash the full extent of his power and enjoys the company of like-minded monsters, especially of the mechanical variety. One such is the Android psychopath Ultron, whose desire to replace humanity with cybernetic extensions of himself earned him the Metal Fetishist's respect. By chance, one of Tomoo's circle is Dr. Hank Pym, Ultron's creator. Pym is as ashamed of his monstrous son as Tomoo is his brother. Both agree their counterparts represent the worst impulses of themselves, and that it's their responsibility to destroy them.
- A similar duo is the psychic "Scanner" terrorist Darryl Revok and his brother Cameron Vale. Despite his lack of social skills, Vale was interested in Tomoo's condition and believes he's found another ally. Revok, on the other hand, has decided that both Metal men are too dangerous and psychotic to be controlled. He's able to effectively strike Yatsu mentally, but the maniac's biomechanical nature allows him to bounce back quickly. Revok is still planning to destroy the metal monster, and Yatsu sneers at his arrogance.
- Neither of them are friends to the mysterious mage called "the Enchantress". Tomoo in his case considers her no better then the Metal Fetishist, as she transforms people in karmic ways while also affecting innocent bystanders. Yatsu on the other hand is annoyed by her self-righteousness, as he is quite proudly open about being a destruction loving force of evil. The Enchantress doesn't view them worth her time though, as they're already in frequent psychological and physical agony.
- If there's one ideal they share, it's that they both loathe abusive parents, especially since in one timeline their father was a selfish monster who turned them into what they are. While Yatsu isn't much better than his dad, he still sees his father in people like Ozai and seeks to destroy everything he built. Tomoo especially has it in for men like Gendo Ikari and Shou Tucker, who used their own children for their own selfish experiments, which in the case of Ikari had truly apocalyptic results. Dr. Gero stands out as the most similar, as while he did care for his son, he still created killing machines both organic and mechanical. Further unnerving Tomoo is that Gero has expressed interest in the two, believing he may have a better chance of studying and harnessing their powers.
- The Lin Kuei ninja clan boasts two notable cyborgs in Cyrax and Sektor. Like the two iron men, they were converted by an abominable process, and while Cyrax struggles against his mechanical nature like Tomoo, Sektor embraces it like Yatsu. Upon hearing of them, Yatsu approached Sektor with an offer to combine their powers. Sektor was weary of the man's insanity but believes he can still use the Metal Fetishist to upgrade his arsenal. Cyrax, meanwhile, informed Tomoo of Sektor's schemes. While Tomoo contains more raw power, Cyrax is a seasoned martial artist, so he's offered to teach the Salaryman some of his skills in battle with their evil cybernetic enemies.
- The SCP Foundation keeps a close watch on the two as they specialize in containing anomalous and especially dangerous beings and phenomena. Tomoo is willing to cooperate if it means helping control his abilities, but Yatsu has given them more trouble. Even worse, he shows a fascination with the various monsters the Foundation contains. Of particular interest is SCP 217, the Clockwork Virus. Yatsu sees it as a lifeform akin to himself and seeks to join it in reformatting the Earth. Thankfully, he's been held at bay for now.
Applies To Tomoo:
- A certain nightmare-walking creature began appearing in the poor guy's dreams, being a fan of that level of Body Horror and mental anguish. Krueger noted with amusement that the undertones of Tomoo and Yatsu's relationship reminds him of a time when he was a malevolent force symbolizing repressed homosexuality trying to take over another young man's body. Freddy hoped to possess Tomoo and use his devastating powers in the waking world. Fortunately, a cyborg lifeform isn't so easy to control, and Freddy was forced to eject. He was disappointed but still shows interest in the Iron Men's potential.
Freddy: Aw, you're no fun. But your friend? He seems like my kind of guy.
- In terms of being an unassuming office guy transformed into a strange creature, Gregor Samsa can relate to Tomoo's plight. He's also as devoted to his family as his cyborg counterpart, though perhaps not to the extent Tomoo gets when you threaten his wife and son. Despite Samsa's own horrible situation, Tomoo would say Gregor's father was still better than his own, as at least he didn't intentionally mutate his children.
- The Salaryman was relieved to meet others who had experienced and overcame similar trauma. Alex Murphy, a police officer who was resurrected as a cyborg super-cop after his murder, told Tomoo he was impressed by the lengths he went to save his family from his evil brother. Tomoo hopes someday Murphy can reunite with his own. Atom, better known as the android superhero Astro-Boy, is a fellow native of Japan and was moved to tears hearing what Tomoo and his brother went through as children. It especially resonated because of his own relationship with Dr. Tenma. Atom hopes one day Yatsu can remember his humanity the way his brother did.
Applies to Yatsu:
- He's considered an insane abomination even among other world conquerors, if only that his insanity and dangerous powers make him too unpredictable. Besides Ultron, however, a few admire his monstrous ambition. Cell, the aformentioned Dr. Gero's deadliest creation, is on a journey to perfect himself and sees Yatsu's mission of spreading "the beauty of destruction" as similar. The cyborg Kaiju Gigan is generally a weapon for whoever points him somewhere, but Yatsu's technopathy lets him to communicate with the beast on more even footing, promising him new upgrades and places to destroy. Hank Henshaw, the hopelessly misanthropic Cyborg Superman, joins with Yatsu in the belief a fellow cybernetic entity can help bring an end to his tortured existence and destroy the world that spawned them. He's also caught the attention of SKYNET, who's thrilled at the prospect of creating man-machine hybrid Terminators with the Fetishist's unique powers. The evil AI assigned the shape-shifting T-1000 as a diplomat. A similarly sociopathic machine called AM(Allied Mastercomputer) has admitted it's impressed that a young human could transcend into a being that rivals itself in power and malice. Yatsu has experience as a cult leader, and preaches a new world of machines where organics are slaves and fuel, every evil automaton's dream.
- One group that shares his beliefs is the bionically enhanced race known as the Cybermen. The Cybermen have battled to create a technological dystopia across different timelines, and Yatsu has offered to aid them in their crusade. Although he can't assume command from the Cyber Controller, Yatsu is happy to provide new hosts to the cyberization process. He's also planning to limit their emotion inhibition so his ideal cyber race can be more creative. Another race, the similarly cybernetic Borg, isn't happy with Yatsu's ambitious, wild card personality. The Collective has decided to exterminate his individuality, a feat easier said than done, and Yatsu has vowed to have the collective answer to him.
- Ironically for someone who also hates organics, Megatron of the Decepticons has nothing but contempt for the Metal Fetishist and sees him as a plague on Cybertron in general. That he's a horrible abomination is one of the few things he and Optimus Prime can agree on. Upon learning of Cybertron and it's inhabitants, Yatsu was thrilled at the chance to assimilate a race of mechanical beings, but he's been repelled by both Autobot and Decepticon alike.
- He's well aware that there exist monsters and beings of similar nature within the Pantheon, even if they're not necessarily mechanical. Unfortunately(at least for him), what prevents an alliance is most are too feral and uncontrollable to reason with. The amorphous alien called "The Thing" is focused on assimilating the populace and sees Yatsu as competition, while the viral Onryo Sadako doesn't need help spreading her influence. Tomie Kawakami, another shape-shifting sociopath with assimilation powers, is too petty and vain, seeing Yatsu's grandiose vision as an annoyance. However, he's found it a bit easier to exploit the parasites called Face-Huggers. The cyborg believes he can use them to engineer bio-mechanical Xenomorphs, something nobody wants to see implemented. Even worse, he's recently caught the interest of the alien "Qu" who also seek to "evolve" humanity to their warped designs. Yatsu is more than happy to serve as a consultant.
- Because of his metal-manipulating abilities, any descent person with this power deems him a disgusting monstrosity. Even mutant revolutionary Magneto, who generally dislikes humanity, believes Yatsu is a rabid dog who needs to be put down, much to the latter's disappointment, as he thinks Magneto could've been a great partner. Toph Bei Fong, hailing from a world where people can manipulate elements, has stated he's an insult to Benders everywhere. None of this really bothers the Metal Fetishist, as he thinks sooner or later, they'll all be absorbed into his glorious metal and succumb to his twisted vision.
- While many Pantheon inhabitants are familiar with the trauma transformation can bring, one boy in particular was appalled to learn of this man's ascension. Tim Barnett, a boy who underwent a slow, traumatic metamorphosis into an apple tree, sees what the Metal Fetishist did to his brother as worse than his own ordeal. Even if Tomoo was guilty of a graver crime than stealing an apple, Tim has decided to help any way he can against the biometal sociopath. Yatsu strangely pities the child somewhat, because to him becoming plant matter is far inferior to the beauty of metal.
- Unsurprisingly, most heroes and villains who don't believe in organic subjugation are also very much opposed to the cyborg's insanity. Pamela Isley is the inverse of Yatsu, a former human mutant with godlike power over plants, but even she recognizes that he's a worse monster than her. Gorilla Grodd is a megalomaniacal beast but he still has the sense to see the Metal monster as a threat to all apekind. Even Metallo, another homicidal machine man, is horrified by Yatsu, as he still has enough attachment to his human side. He also detests Hank Henshaw, so the Metal Fetishist allying with the nihilistic cyber-being is more than good a reason. Cyborg/Victor Stone is a man who grapples with his human and robotic halves and was disgusted at how the biomechanical man could discard his humanity with such ease. Yatsu attempted to corrupt his cybernetics, but Victor retaliated with a special anti virus he designed. Cyborg's fury at Yatsu for his sick violations nearly blindsided him, but he was able to disrupt the corruption and made it clear he wouldn't hold back so much next time.
Cyborg: You want to be metal so badly? Try to get in my head again, and I'll show you what it's like to be scrap iron.
- He's found a startling number in common with the psionically powered Japanese criminal Tetsuo Shima. Both were shy children given deadly powers by experiments(at least in one timeline for Yatsu), both have a heated rivalry with another young man they were very close to, and both eventually metamorphosed into monstrous abominations that tried to assimilate the world. Tetsuo on his part is happy to find a kindred spirit and together the two plan to become gods of this cruel world. It's the exact opposite with one Kevin Levin, however, as he sees Yatsu as the kind of person he could've been(and has become at times) if he didn't have caring friends: a sociopathic monster in every sense who absorbs and destroys whatever he touches. He's afraid to even absorb metal from Yatsu and has advised his friend Ben to never let the Omnitrix take any "DNA" from the creature.