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Too much Alternative Character Interpretation with them. No dialog, one victim, may or may not be redeemable.

Was it discussed at the thread?

No, there was nothing to discuss.

Hiya with this please:

• Put one on Anime & Manga;
• Replace the ZZ entry at Gundam with two;
• Three goes on the "DC" section of Comic Books;
• Four for the Live-Action section of Film;
• Five-seven for Live-Action TV;
• Eight-twelve for Video Games;
• 13-15 go on Other Media... 13 and 14 for fan works (14 is a rewrite) and 15 on the Music section.
• To add on the last-minute weld-ons can 16-22 reformat the Comics section of G.I. Joe, 23 goes above the other Western Animation one on the section of the same page;
• 24 and 25 go on The Neverkind Saga and will create a new banner like the "Kindness of Devils" one titled "The Lonely Dreams Cycle" and the Uniquiet Grave stuff will go beneath;
• The remaining entries reformat the JoJo stuff at Anime & Manga.

Thanks as always!

Edited by 43110 on Mar 22nd 2020 at 5:51:16 AM

At Fan Works, please add Joker to Comic Books (Batman) and the tree to Crossovers.

• The Last Laugh, by Justin Dombrowski & Chris Rose: The Joker is a sadistic psychopath who wants to burn Gotham to the ground. Threatening to murder every child in the Newbury Orphanage before midnight, Joker breaks into Detective Sarah Essen's house and murders her in front of her children. Kidnapping various members of Gotham's elite and placing them in his airship, Joker plans to drop them all, including Mayor Hill and Bruce Wayne's crush Julie Madison, out and watch them die. Shooting Julie's pregnant stomach in front of Batman for laughs, Joker reveals that he has placed his toxins inside the airship, hoping to detonate them, unleash his gas, and kill everybody in Gotham.
• Jackie Chan Adventures/W.I.T.C.H. crossover Guardians, Wizards, and Kung-Fu Fighters:
  • Rhouglar, aka "The Mad Dog of the Rebellion", proves that members of the Rebellion can be just as evil as Phobos's minions. Showing his true colors at the Battle of Torus Filney, Rhouglar makes a deal with Alistar Tharquin to attack and capture Jade during the battle in exchange for access to Viscountess Ishol Servantis. During the battle, Rhouglar rapes the Viscountess three times with the intent to cause her as much pain as possible, seemingly out of spite, and when confronted by Caleb, he brags that he's been raping women since he first joined the Rebellion. He then tries unsuccessfully to claim that Caleb has no right to judge him given all of the awful things the Rebellion has done. Hedonistic to the core, Rhouglar proves that evil people serving a good cause are still evil.
  • The aforementioned Alistar Tharquin is a Knight Templar obsessed with wiping out Shapeshifters. His modus operandi involves torturing Shapeshifters; usually to death, but occasionally he releases his victims to try to seek revenge and thus further his cause. Not even being on the same side as him helps, as at Torus Filney, Tharquin makes a deal with the aforementioned Rhouglar to capture Jade for him in exchange for access to Viscountess Ishol Servantis. Once he has her, he proceeds to torture her for hours, in the hope of driving her to insanity and unleashing her against the Rebellion to further his cause. Despite his claims of righteousness, Tharquin is nothing more than a racist and a fundamentalist.

• The Last Laugh, by Justin Dombrowski & Chris Rose: The Joker is a sadistic psychopath who wants to burn Gotham to the ground. Threatening to murder every child in the Newbury Orphanage before midnight, Joker breaks into Detective Sarah Essen's house and murders her in front of her children. Kidnapping various members of Gotham's elite and placing them in his airship, Joker plans to drop them all, including Mayor Hill and Bruce Wayne's crush Julie Madison, out and watch them die. Shooting Julie's pregnant stomach in front of Batman for laughs, Joker reveals that he has placed his toxins inside the airship, hoping to detonate them, unleash his gas, and kill everybody in Gotham.

Animation (Non-Anime, non-Western), non-Animated Films

Please add Animated Films to Complete Monster.

Image Links

Quotes

Edited by ACW on Mar 22nd 2020 at 10:48:27 AM

~zoopyDoopy, that should probably go to the clean-up thread, then.

Done besides ACW's most recent request

At The Neverkind Saga, fixing indentation, it should be:

The Unquiet Grave

• Mircalla von Karnstein, better known as Carmilla, is the jovial, cultured vampire niece of Silas Ruthven, and though appearing to be completely under his control, Carmilla is revealed to be far more sly than first appearances imply. Abused and mistreated by Ruthven for years, Carmilla grows in independence and cunning, and concocts a scheme to take down her uncle for good. Carmilla locates and lures the powerful couple of Hardestadt Delac and Eliza Cortly to London, leaving them a bread trail of clues and pointers on Ruthven's evil schemes, all while seducing Hardestadt's daughter Grete. Even when her manipulations are exposed, Carmilla continues to trick Hardestadt and Eliza into dancing to her tune, ultimately using them as pawns to arrange Ruthven's death and save London at the cost of her own life before spending her final moments of life revealing that she has truly fallen in love with Grete, and wishes her the best in life while apologizing for how she used the girl's family.
• Priest Akhenaten, cursed to become a mummy after he tampered with the forces of death in an attempt to resurrect a loved one, maintains a polite, respectful attitude towards all even in his undead state. Forced to feed on the life force of others to sustain his own, Akhenaten solely targets those he believes are deserving of death for their immoral ways, having a deep respect and care for anyone innocent in the world, even going out of his way to save the life of a child bystander during an intense fight. Though seeming to loyally serve Silas Ruthven in his plan to destroy London, Akhenaten truthfully allies with the brilliant Carmilla, scheming alongside her to thwart her uncle's mad plan at the cost of their own lives, a plan that goes off without a hitch. Powerful enough to trade both physical and verbal blows with Eliza Cortly and noble enough to earn the respect of Hardestadt Delac, Akhenaten successfully orchestrates the breaking of his mummy curse, even as he expressed a willingness to be damned for eternity if it resulted in the saving of lives.

Edited by ACW on Mar 23rd 2020 at 10:58:54 AM

Aw, fuck... thanks for catching that ACW. Also can the Animated section on Film get a folder like the Live-Action stuff? It doesn't need to be alphabetized, just one to encompass the 15 entries. Thanks!

For Complete Monster, Literature:

here

• Rewrite goes to American Horror Story.
• Kirio goes to Anime & Manga: A to F.
• Olban rewrite (Robot Romance Trilogy) & Baal go to Anime & Manga: O to Z.
• War goes to Comic Books: A to H.
• Next entry goes at the end of DC Literature.
• At Film H To L, please remove The Hobbit and add Adrian.
• Driscoll; duo; Nitti rewrite all go to Film S To Z.
• "Father" and "Rasputin" go to Literature: A to C.
• Next 4 entries go to Literature: D to G.
• At Literature H to Q, please remove Pleasure of a Dark Prince; please add everyone from Decker to Simonini.
• At Literature R to Z, for The Silmarillion, please replace Sauron's current entry with the rewrite and Ar-Pharazôn; Nettle also goes to that page.
• Chomsky goes to Live Action TVA To L.
• Duo goes to Mortal Kombat, Other Media, between Comic Books and Films.
• Regeneration One goes to Transformers, Generation One, end of Marvel Continuity.
• Shinobu goes to Video Games: A to F.
• Owl and Garrard (the latter to the end of Trails series) go to Video Games: Q to Z.
• Barnier and Charlotte rewrites go to Visual Novels.
• Everything else goes to Web Original (Others).

Thanks

Please fix Videogame -> VideoGame for the following page titles (note some of them cover it up with a custom title):

• Videogame Caring Potential
• Video Game Culture
• Video Game Demake
• Videogame Flamethrowers Suck
• Video Game Genres
• Video Game Geography
• Video Game Interface Elements
• Video Game Setpiece
• Video Game Settings
• Video Game Systems

Approved by the Complete Monster thread, please remove the Badass Grandpa wicks from Film D To G and Film H To L.

Can this be added to Square Peg, Round Trope?

• Sequelitis is when a series is observed to get worse with each new installment. However, it tends to get misused to complain about any bad sequel or installment in a series, even if that series has been consistently well-received up to that point.

Thanks, corrected.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Mar 23rd 2020 at 9:12:00 AM

That should be "is observed to get worse".

On the Characters subpage for The Bible, there are two Names The Same entries: one for Rahab and one for Jezebel. Since Names The Same is Trivia, I'm requesting they be cut and moved to the Trivia subpage.

Here are the entries that need to be cut from the Characters subpage:

And put it under the Names The Same entry on the Trivia page like so:

Thanks. I completely missed the Trivia page was free to edit.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Mar 23rd 2020 at 10:00:15 AM

Done to here. ~chasemaddigan, Trivia.The Bible isn't locked.

Just a Face and a Caption has a picture from The Lion King (1994) that links to the depreciated "Disney" namespace and should be fixed. The picture is in the "Not Actually JAFAAC" folder.

Please preemptively lock Characters.Title Goes Here. It is a vandal page waiting to happen.

For a bit more context re Characters.Title Goes Here, it has been wicked from Administrivia.How To Create A Character Page since September 2019. I'm not sure if that's more or less helpful than the Character Sheet Template and Creating New Pages, though.

Oh, I forgot: Please lock Animated Films.

For Locked Pages, can someone add this to the "Works" tab

• HoYay.Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Vandalism from a persistent ban evader.

At Film D To G, for Gran Torino:

• Gran Torino: Spider is a Hmong gangster who, along with his gang, terrorizes his own neighborhood. He starts off by pressuring his cousin Thao to steal his neighbor Walt Kowalski's vintage Gran Torino. When he fails at this, Spider and his gang beat up Thao and continually harass his family. Walt initially scares him off, but he continues to harass Thao afterwards and lets his subordinate put out a cigarette in his face. In retaliation for Walt beating up one of his gang members, Spider performs a drive-by shooting on Thao's family and kidnaps his cousin Sue to subject her to a violent gang rape, leaving her bloodied and traumatized. When Walt finally confronts them in the climax, he and his gang riddle him with bullets when they think he might have a gun.

Edited by ACW on Mar 24th 2020 at 4:41:04 AM

The wicks to Main.This Troper on Administrivia.Word Cruft, Administrivia.Auto Erotic Troping, and Administrivia.Two Point Zero need to be changed to either Administrivia.This Troper or Administrivia.First Person Writing (probably the former for Word Cruft, probably the latter for the others). Not sure about the ones on Administrivia.Locked Pages or Administrivia.Permanent Red Link Club, since they're from when the page was in Main/.

Some of the wicks on Administrivia.Locked Pages and Administrivia.Permanent Red Link Club might need to be changed depending whether they're referring to first-person writing on other pages or the policy page regarding first-person writing, except for the latter page's reference to Main.This Troper being an intentional red link.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 24th 2020 at 5:01:17 AM

Done except for

At BIONICLE, for the quote source, please pothole Mata Nui Online Game to BIONICLE. Please pothole the image caption to the same thing.

EDIT: Reformat for G.I. Joe:

Comic Books (by publication date)

• The original Cobra Commander himself is, underneath any silliness or ridiculous behavior, a truly vile, heinous monster who has earned his title of the Arch-Enemy of the G.I. Joes. A former car salesman who got his start with well-intentioned goals following the death of his brother, the Commander quickly moved beyond this altruistic outlook, growing in ambition and love for power as he killed thousands of people in his various maniacal plots. Returning from the grave after a seeming change of heart, the Commander brags that he has thrown away all of his humanity and redeeming qualities, illustrating this by burying his own son alive along with many of his former allies. Orchestrating a variety of atrocities that ranged from nuking cities to dropping acid rain onto others, the Commander throws away the lives of hundreds of loyal recruits to illustrate his cruelty, and his villainy culminates in the final arc of the Devil's Due series, in which the Commander murders his son, Billy, simply to prove that he can, and tries to wipe out all life on Earth so he can feel like a god. Cobra Commander goes through a variety of character twists and turns, but always is brought back to his roots: a psychopath who willingly, happily has chosen to destroy his humanity and embrace pure evil for the power and glory it brings him.
• "Dr. Venom", real name Claude Vinim ^note Marvel only, is the original Mad Scientist for Cobra, who came into the organization after burning a college dean alive for attempting to expose Venom's murder of his own father. Developing the Brainwave Scanner for Cobra, Venom deliberately designs the machine to cause the maximum amount of pain to its victims, using it to Mind Rape anyone unfortunate enough to cross Cobra. After making an Arch-Enemy out of Snake Eyes by using the Brainwave Scanner on him, Venom brutally beats the defenseless G.I. Joe, betrays and tries to kill him when they are forced to team up, and shoots one of Snake Eyes's partners, Kwinn, In the Back when the man showed Venom mercy. Though seemingly killed after a failed attempt to poison the United States's money supply and kill millions, Venom returns, having copied his brain into a computer program, and begins bodyjacking several people, using them in his mad experiments on innocents to kill or subjugate every member of G.I. Joe and Cobra alike. Though lacking in appearances of other leadership of Cobra, Venom's despicable crimes and scoffing of love and caring relationships marks him as one of the worst criminals to ever grace Cobra's ranks.
• Vance Wingfield, debuting in "Operation: Wingfield", is a military tactician obsessed with the idea of survival of the fittest, and, believing that a large portion of humanity has become weak, sets out to cull mankind. Wingfield plans to frame America for dropping a nuclear bomb onto a highly populated Russian city, then ride out the ensuing World War III before rising up and ruling over whatever of humanity is left. To aid in his endeavors, Wingfield subjects numerous men to Training from Hell, while attempting to turn their children into Child Soldiers, and eventually tries to blow up himself, his followers, and their entire families with another nuke to ensure a nuclear holocaust starts even if he is dead. Surviving this event, though crippled, Wingfield goes on to create a virus that can pull satellites down from orbit, and proceeds to drop satellites onto both Chicago and Silicon Valley, killing thousands of men, women, and children, planning to do the same to Washington, D.C. and New York City as well. Even after death, Wingfield's crimes continue, as his son Tyler, whom Wingfield horribly abused and corrupted into becoming like him, tries to continue his father's legacy, threatening millions of lives, all the while unaware that his father was planning to kill him as a child because he was showing weakness. Vance Wingfield stood out even among the terrorist organization Cobra as one of the few wholly irredeemable villains the G.I. Joes faced in their original comic run.

Extreme comic miniseries

• Iron Klaw is the main villain the military team the G.I. Joes confront in this comic miniseries, and handily the worst. The leader of the terrorist group Soldiers of Kaos, Anarchy, and Ruin, or S.K.A.R., surpassed in rank only by the Duchess, Iron Klaw murdered his way to the top position of the group, and is a horrific boss, murdering his henchmen for everything from accidentally touching him, to simply assert his ego. After murdering the Duchess when she slowly shows disgust for his homicidal plans for world domination, Iron Klaw murders a man, taking out many of his soldiers in the same instance, to steal his political position, and proceeds to steal the powerful crop hormone known as Ferti-gel, poisons it, then plans to spread it across numerous countries to plunge them into famine and drought in order to blackmail the world with his massive supply of food. Even when forced into an Enemy Mine situation with the Joes against Red Scream, Iron Klaw takes every opportunity to betray and try to murder his "allies". Iron Klaw was a complete sociopath who was only concerned with his own personal power.
• Inferno is a psychopathic Mad Bomber who, though only a minor servant of Iron Klaw in the present, is revealed to be a truly wicked individual in his backstory, shown in the short arc From the Ashes. Using his pyrotechnic skills, Inferno bombed more than half a dozen military bases, killing dozens of innocent American soldiers, and follows it up by blowing up an American intelligence agency, killing more than thirty people. After bombing the recently-created G.I. Joe base, wiping out most of the starting Joes, Inferno goes on to try and kill the President of the United States with an explosive during a mass funeral for his own victims, fully aware of the dozens of military families present as well.

Reloaded

• Cobra Commander is, much like many of his other incarnations, a pure evil lunatic in this mini-series created to make a more realistic take on the franchise. As the leader of the terrorist group Cobra, the Commander is a power-hungry madman obsessed with bringing America to its knees, and kicks the story off by blowing up the Golden Gate Bridge and the many innocents on it. Going on to try and steal the United States Constitution, the Commander's ultimate plan is to drop the Omega Black virus onto a highly-populated city, which will painfully rot the bodies of the millions infected by it before melting their brains, at which point he will blackmail other cities to cow to his whims. When the Joes show up to stop him, the Commander attempts to simply launch as many nukes as possible as he makes his retreat. Despite his seemingly-benevolent attitude toward his minions, this is completely thrown out the window when he is revealed to ruthlessly execute anyone who fails him, even animals, and goes a murder spree of his own soldiers for the pettiest of reasons. Though slightly implied to have a tragic backstory and many claims of well-intentioned goals, Cobra Commander is ultimately shown to be a remorseless and deranged tyrant with nothing but greed and evil itself driving him.
• Firefly is a mercenary-turned-Cobra agent who takes joy in classical music and blowing things up. After bombing the Golden Gate bridge in Cobra's name, killing dozens, Firefly derails a train and executes the surviving passengers with a gun to steal supplies which he uses to take over an oil rig whose staff he massacres. Firefly murders anyone who tries to approach the rig, and later mocks a Joe over the fact that Firefly killed the man's girlfriend in a previous job.

Danger Girl/G.I. Joe, written by Andy Hartnell

• Cobra Commander is as ruthless and unhinged as often portrayed, establishing himself to his command staff by slashing a Cobra soldier to death for another's offhand insult. Planning to use unearthed nuclear missiles to wipe out millions of people across the globe and threaten countless more until they cow to Cobra, the Commander sends his soldiers to implant homing beacons for the missiles at their targets, taunting his troops all the while that he has no plans to hesitating to fire the missiles when the beacons are ready, uncaring if they are caught up in the blast.

G.I. Joe (IDW)

Transformers/G.I. Joe, by John Ney Rieber

• Cobra Commander continues to prove himself capable of being an irredeemable psychopath when it comes to adaptations of his original iteration. With Cobra serving as a stand-in for the Nazi Party, Commander runs his empire with the same cruel egomania that the Nazis were known for. After discovering the Decepticons hidden in an ancient monastery whose inhabitants he has just had slaughtered, Commander forcefully takes control of the Decepticons and forces them to lay waste to numerous countries across Europe, including Berlin and Rome. Any survivors of these massacres, including the children, are forced into slave camps, and, later, used as human shields against the Commander's enemies. After forcing a Decepticon to exhaust all his energy in wantonly laying waste to enemies and allies alike, the Commander reveals his plan to use the Decepticons to institute a new world order under his rule where only the strong will survive and serve under his thumb. Cobra Commander is a megalomaniac whose status as a stand-in for the Nazi leadership makes him one of the most realistic, and wicked, baddies throughout the G.I. Joe franchise.

G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero vs. The Six Million Dollar Man, by Ryan Ferrier, SL Gallant, et al.

• Cobra Commander himself plots to Take Over the World. He starts by having Baroness and Doctor Mindbender brainwash Steve Austin, The Six Million Dollar Man, into joining them, while Commander and Cobra forces take over the massive Infinity Centre skyscraper in Switzerland, taking over the top floor and threatening the lives of the inhabitants. Promising a "bloodbath" if anybody challenges his rule, Commander has Baroness and her henchmen attempt to bring down Air Force One and kill everyone on board, ultimately aiming to prevent the signing of a global peace accord on the Frisian Islands. When this fails, Commander's contingency plan is to have Baroness activate Austin's arm—basically turning it into a nuclear weapon—and attempt to blow up the island, killing thousands of people.

Animated Works

The Rise of Cobra & Retaliation

• The Doctor/Cobra Commander is the Diabolical Mastermind behind Cobra, and the ultimate villain of the films. Once a soldier named Rex Lewis who was left to die by his military allies, the Commander embraced his abandonment, as it gave him time to weaponize the nanomite technology and ally with James "Destro" McCullen of MARS Industries as "the Doctor". Using the nanomite technology to mind control a variety of soldiers—even his own sister Ana, the future Baroness—"the Doctor" planned to assist McCullen in using the nanomites to wipe out major cities, before using Zartan to replace the President of the United States for ultimate power. After the nanomite plan fails, "the Doctor" betrays McCullen, uses Ana as a hostage, tries to blow up his entire lair and everyone inside and christens himself Cobra Commander. Later escaping prison, the Commander uses Zeus to destroy London, promising to continue wiping out entire cities until the world cows to Cobra.
• Zartan is the Commander's right-hand psychopath, a Master of Disguise whose sadism and cheerful personality make him far worse than any other servant of Cobra. His introductory scene showing him stabbing Cover Girl through the back and mocking her as she dies, Zartan assists in killing a variety of Joes before killing a man for his clothes to evade capture. After capturing and replacing the President of the United States, who he regularly tortures for information, Zartan orders the execution of the G.I. Joes and kickstarts a war in a foreign country to enable Cobra Commander's escape. At the demonstration of Zeus, Zartan giddily pulls the trigger that blows up the city of London, England, and is revealed to have been the one who killed Storm Shadow's master as a child and corrupted him into evil, cementing himself as the worst Cobra has to offer alongside its Commander.
• James "Destro" McCullen, from The Rise of Cobra with a small cameo in Retaliation, is an Arms Dealer and the head of Military Armaments Research Syndicate (M.A.R.S.) Industries, using the company to mask his growing schemes for power. Able and willing to sell to weapons to terrorists worldwide and eager to test out said weapons on anyone in close proximity, McCullen works with the Doctor to create the powerful machines called Nanites, using them to turn hundreds of men into enslaved soldiers fully aware of their surroundings but unable to control their own actions. Developing four nanite warheads then orchestrating the destruction of the military convoy transporting them, McCullen tests one of the warheads out on Paris in an attempt to wipe it out, before planning to use the other three to destroy Moscow, Beijing and Washington, D.C., at which point his plan to use an imposter President to take control of a panicked Earth will ensue. McCullen also arranges for the deaths of his own troops should they be captured, has the President's security detail killed, and keeps the Baroness as his enslaved puppet to seduce, even ordering the death of her public husband out of mere jealousy.
• Operation HISS tie-in comic: Major Sebastian Bludd is a mercenary hired by Cobra to cover up its criminal activities and enable the escape of Cobra Commander from imprisonment. Using nanomite technology to turn entire factories of workers into living statues or bloodthirsty soldiers, Bludd kidnaps a variety of military soldiers to use as hostages, executing one simply because his rank is higher than "major". Bludd demands the release of Cobra Commander, threatening to start detonating bombs across the entire world and kill thousands of people if his demands are not met, and illustrates the threat is real by blowing up the Golden Gate bridge, killing everyone on it with smug satisfaction before ordering a variety of other bombs be detonated—though noting to spare Sydney, Australia from any of them, as he has family there he wants to kill with his bare hands very soon.

Miscellaneous

• In this British comic retooling of the classic G.I. Joe franchise, Baron Ironblood, later Cobra Commander, is a sociopathic terrorist obsessed with subjugating or destroying all he surveys. Having created the terrorist organization known as the Red Shadows in a murderous campaign, Ironblood uses them to perpetrate various atrocities throughout the comic, from attempting to wipe out entire cities to planning full-scale invasions of countries at a time, promising to paint the streets red with blood, until, finally annoyed at his constant losses, Ironblood betrays his entire organization to be wiped out by Action Force, ditching them to their fates while he restyles himself as Cobra Commander, creating a new group called Cobra in the process. With this new group, Cobra Commander's evil only increases, as he tries to kick-start wars, enslave London, and finally infect all of humanity with a plague, the cure for which he will only give to those who will bow down to him. Cobra Commander is also a horrific boss to his minions, subjecting them to training that kills dozens of them at a time, executing them for the pettiest of slights, and feeding them to ravenous beasts regularly for his own amusement. Be it as Ironblood or Cobra Commander, this power-hungry madman would let no man, woman, or child come between him and his goals, and he kills thousands of them to illustrate this point.

Edited by ACW on Mar 25th 2020 at 1:31:17 PM