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  • BlazBlue has an extensive colorful cast owing to its many entries. However, some of its characters have been suffering perpetual cases of Never Live It Down which may fling each into Alternate Character Interpretation:
    • The Hero Ragna The Bloodedge is squarely a Jerk with a Heart of Gold. However, due to his past history of singlehandedly destroying several NOL bases and leaving no survivors, something he hasn't done as of late (or at least shown in the game), some people makes it clear and never let the fandom forget that he was a mass murderer and always will be. Ragna's also derided by people who haven't played the game as being a painfully edgy character (due to his design, the "Bloodedge" title and his darkness-themed attacks) despite being a rather dorky person who doesn't get a whole lot of respect in-universe, partly for those edgy elements in the first place.
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    • Jin Kisaragi started out as a psychopath yandere of the brother-complex variety who only had his sights on fighting Ragna. As the overall story progressed, his relationship with Tsubaki Yayoi was revealed and showed that he tremendously cared about her. In fact, post-CS, he made it his mission to save Tsubaki, making him look heroic. Fandom reaction? He's still and always will be the brother-crazed psycho Yandere. This impression is reinforced by the characterization Continuum Shift gives him. While it's in the non-canon gag storylines, it's in at least three gag storylines. And in Teach Me Miss Litchi, too. So, not entirely the fault of the fans that Arc Systems keeps milking this Running Gag for all it's worth, and kept doing so for further gag storylines later on in the series. And Jin seems like he'll never live down the fact that during the time of Calamity Trigger, he's a murderous jackass with little redeeming qualities. It's been revealed that it was his weapon, Yukianesa, that was exerting an overriding influence that amplifies his darker thoughts and made these flaws more extreme. But as the series progressed, Jin learns to control it, and as such, while he's definitely still an asshole, he's been toning down the 'murderous' part so that the only person he'd try to kill outright is just Ragna (he will still insult Noel though), so he's just a jackass. But there's still a bunch of people who thinks that his true self is that 'murderous jackass' CT self and that has never changed.
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    • Litchi Faye-Ling is quite probably the most egregious one. She is all nice and caring to everyone she comes across, provided they're not evil and she does try her best to save Arakune. But after the one moment where she unwillingly joined NOL as the situation practically forced her to if she wants a shot in saving Arakune, fans practically considered that "obsession with saving Arakune" to be her whole personality, forgetting all the good things she did before (and thought they were just to facilitate her obsession) and mere association with the NOL dooms her to be a heel in many fans' eyes. Litchi never living it down can be adhered because there's one thing NOL as a whole never lives down: their one rule of 'Anyone opposing us will receive swift, immediate execution' is the one thing everyone would remember them as and deems the organization as a Palpatine-esque Empire where someone needs a degree of asshattery if they even want to think of joining... forgetting the fact that without them, the civilized world of the setting would fall into utter anarchy, as well as any lies they adhere to aren't because of the rank and file being villainous jerks, but because of the manipulations of Hazama and Relius at the top. It didn't help that the rule was established after they trounced the Ikaruga Federation, home of fan favorite hammy ninja of justice Bang Shishigami, thus always considering Ikaruga to the side of justice, forgetting that Ikaruga started the rebellion in the first place and in war, there's no such thing as 'righteous and villainous'.
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    • Bang Shishigami also got a minor one going. Yes he once used to hate Jin Kisaragi for his actions in the Ikaruga rebellion. But in CS, he's shown to have unconditionally helped Jin and despite knowing that he killed his master, as he realized that Jin wasn't truly to blame and the true enemy is the system within NOL. So how does the fandom answer when asked on who is Bang's Arch-Enemy? Always will be Jin Kisaragi.
    • Resident Mad Scientist Relius Clover is probably most remembered for the buckets and buckets of subtext he has thanks to his Astral Finish. And then there's what he did to Makoto in one of her Bad Ends. It was bad enough that to some, Relius' greatest crime was defined with that very moment he had his hands on Makoto, forgetting what was supposed to define him: His utter abuse to his family members, especially Carl.
  • From Crash Bandicoot, Ripper Roo. Apparently the one thing fans always thinks he does is just laugh. What is ignored is that he got a PHD in Psychology, the fact that even other characters in the series laugh, and even the fact he is a Kangaroo and not any other species of animal or a hybrid thereof, because some fans think he is despite evidence to the contrary. Also, fans tend to forget that he was intended to speak in some of the games and the fact that his cameo in Crash Twinsanity he didn't laugh, nor speak at all shows exactly that fans make a flanderization of him for a few traits.
  • Haiji Towa in Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls is meant to be hated for many reasons, such as being a Big Brother Bully and advocating for death to a Brainwashed and Crazy group incapable of understanding what they did, but the only one you can expect most of the fandom to recall is his taste in underage children.
  • Combined with Shrouded in Myth in Dragon Age: Inquisition with Fen'Harel, remembered by the Dalish as an amoral Trickster God. Turns out he was a noble leader of a slave revolt, he just never lived down a Nice Job Breaking It, Hero moment and his reputation had snowballed from there over the centuries. Though there are some strong hints that his version of events paints him in an overly altruistic light and that his actual motives were decidedly more selfish.
  • Bianca Whitaker from Dragon Quest V's DS remake is remembered for having a habit of reminding you how she and the hero went on a ghost hunt when they were kids. She only talks about ghost hunting a few times after she and her childhood friend reunite, and will only talk about it more along with other things when you're revisiting her places of memory in a party chat. Of course, some fans ignore this, resulting in Bianca being a lot less dateable for them.
  • Final Fantasy:
    • Final Fantasy II:
      • Firion was an orphaned kid who became one of the key fighters for the rebels, helped overthrow The Emperor, killed him when he came back to life after taking over the underworld, and in Dissidia Final Fantasy is a hot-blooded, badass rebel who exhibits mastery of Final Fantasy II's entire battle system. But he gets seduced by one Lamia Queen, and no one—not even the staff who threw in two Mythology Gags in Dissidia for it—will let him forget it. In addition, thanks to Dissidia Firion will forever be associated with the so-called "wild rose" and his dream of filling the world with roses.
      • Several people will remember Guy for speaking beaver. He only said it once in game and that's what he is best known for.
    • Final Fantasy IV:
      • Some people don't like Rosa much for the fact she's a Distressed Damsel, being sick with desert fever then getting kidnapped shortly after you cure her. Once you rescue her she stays by Cecil's side for the rest of the game, even when he tells her to stay behind because it's too dangerous.
      • Kain gets Brainwashed once, with a period between the Tower of Zot and Sealed Cave where Golbez loses the signal and has to retune it. Somehow that apparently translates into Heel–Face Revolving Door even though he only leaves and rejoins twice.
      • In the sequel Final Fantasy IV: The After Years, Kain is evil again and Rosa spends most of the plot on the sidelines after fleeing from Baron before Kain kidnaps her. The other characters even wonder "Has Kain been brainwashed again?" Actually no, it's his Evil Counterpart/Enemy Without, the true Kain is known as the Hooded Man and is completely good. Rosa, unfortunately for her, has no such redeeming plot point. Could also be seen as Pandering to the Base—the other female character of the original game, not counting Porom, is Rydia, who is much more popular with the fans than Rosa. While Rosa spends most of the game out of action, Rydia is promoted to main female lead.
      • The people of Mysidia are still portrayed as Ungrateful Townsfolk among Final Fantasy fans for their behavior. Cecil attacks Mysidia at the beginning of the game under the impostor King Baron's command, realizes that the excuse of Just Following Orders doesn't cut it, and that he needs to be better than that. When Cecil returns later in the story, everyone in Mysidia hates Cecil while he's walking around in Dark Knight armour. Some people berate him, others scream in fear, and some of them even curse Cecil with status effects. Considering what Cecil did last time he was there, this reaction is understandable. But what's not understandable is that the Mysidians keep cursing Cecil and his party even after he's become a Paladin, purged himself of darkness, started fighting alongside them, revealed to be The Chosen One, and has saved the world no less than twice.
    • Final Fantasy V:
      • Bartz has a few comedic moments of malapropism, other goofiness, and harangues a turtle without realizing it's Sage Ghido so that the Ghido mocks his intelligence for the rest of the game. After he was flanderized from "simple" to "simpleton" in Dissidia Final Fantasy, fans act as though even Bartz in the original game is always acting like a dope when, in truth, he gets his share of Only Sane Man moments.
      • Lenna being a poison magnet is a running joke among FFV fans. It's mainly the fact that two of the three instances are of her own volition that gets people. However, context says that the first time Lenna gets poisoned is out of desperation to get a Hiryuu to eat a cure for its own illness since she's a Friend to All Living Things, knowing the cure is poisonous to humans. But the fandom generally portrays Lenna as Too Dumb to Live or that she's always getting herself poisoned.
    • Final Fantasy VI:
      • Terra is sometimes remembered as an Actual Pacifist, or as someone who despises violence so strongly that she'll refuse to fight even if there's no other choice. This is based on her scenes when she's found in the World of Ruin, where she struggles with her growing feelings of maternal love for some orphaned children. However, that same game also shows her growing through this mental block and becoming a Martial Pacifist instead, using her strength to protect the people she cares about. Terra's characterization in the Dissidia series turns her into a straight-up Apologetic Attacker, despite the crux of her character development in VI itself revolving around getting over this.
      • Ask most people what they think of when they think of Sabin, and they'll remark that he "suplexed a train".note 
      • Locke's sidequest in the World of Ruin revolves around him trying to find the Phoenix magicite to bring his dead fiancée Rachael back to life. Due to some of the language used during the quest, Locke came off to a few players as a bit creepy and clingy, and being incapable of letting go. But the way some fans hold this over his head, one would think Locke was a necrophiliac.
    • Final Fantasy VII:
      • Despite resolving the majority of his issues and becoming a confident leader by the end of the game, Cloud Strife will always be known as an angsty, navel-gazing introvert. Likewise, Aerith has been painted so heavily with the All-Loving Hero brush that most people forget that she was a spunky, energetic, flirty young woman who fell in love with a shadow of her first boyfriend and frequently caused problems by running off on her own. Interestingly, this creates something of a Hype Backlash, in that Square Enix is often accused of pandering to the extreme version of this, and stated in creation materials for Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children that they characterized Cloud as angsty because they thought fans would be more familiar with such a depiction.
      • The cross-dressing mission to get in Don Corneo's mansion. Even though it's optional, Robot Chicken, in a sketch about gay video game characters, included Cloud crossdressing and getting in a hot tub with other men in speedos.
      • Cloud is also misblamed as the cause of a trend of "emo" protagonists in Final Fantasy, sometimes even every brooding RPG protagonist from the release on FFVII on, and every time any character is actually depressed for any reason Cloud tends to get blamed for it. Yet out of all the main Final Fantasy games, only Squall could be considered "emo" in any sense of the word, they both had good reason to be like that, they are not the first of Final Fantasy protagonists to feel perpetually miserable for one reason or another, and most of the subsequent Final Fantasy protagonists are actually pretty chipper most of the time.
    • Though not as negative as some examples here, Zidane in Final Fantasy IX will always be famous for that one scene—"Ooh, soft!". As well-known among fans of the game as that scene is, groping Garnet really was an accident and he apologized afterwards. He may be a Chivalrous Pervert, but he's more the former than the latter.
    • If there's one thing Tidus and Yuna from Final Fantasy X will always be remembered by, it will be the infamous laughing scene. What many fail to realize is that the laughter was supposed to sound forced. Even the other characters wonder what is wrong with them. Even Square Enix can't resist mocking this; nearly every Crossover Tidus appears in will feature at least one laughter joke.
    • In Final Fantasy XII, Vaan asks Fran how old she is, which is insensitive and the entire party chews him out for it, but under the circumstances isn't a bad question (the scene just before implies Fran is over fifty years old, and that Viera live far longer than humans). Additionally, some Alternative Character Interpretation posits that he asked her that question rather than asking her about her possibly painful past in her Hidden Elf Village. Then in Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy, his opening quote to Shantotto, Prishe and Ultimecia is to ask how old they are, and he asks the same about Cosmos in a storyline scene.
    • In Final Fantasy XIII:
      • Lightning punches Snow on two separate occasions - in extreme circumstances and while under an enormous amount of emotional stress, likely because it was a) heavily featured in the trailers, b) "awesome," and c) what many players wanted to do at that point, fanfic features her decking Snow full-force at the drop of a hat. They also tend to forget that she defrosted a lot over the course of the story, and she is told point-blank by Fang (whom she also hits) that punching people to relieve her emotional stress is a bad thing that solves exactly zero of their current problems, and she noticeably stops doing so when she realizes the truth in that statement. Dissidia 012 responds as it has with its other characters by portraying her as the fan view of her as super stoic and hostile.
      • Hope will forever be known as the whiney Mamas Boy with a revenge complex. However, his journey to overcome his irrational and adolescent desire for revenge (a coping mechanism for seeing his mother die before his eyes and not understanding why) is his main character arc, which resolves about halfway through the game.
      • Snow himself is hated for supposedly having a hero complex and being obsessed with Serah (you know, his fiancée). But one of the first observations made about Snow in-game (by Vanille) is that he's "all-talk", and it very quickly becomes clear that Snow is talking big to cover for deeper insecurities.
    • Final Fantasy XIV:
      • Minfilia is a leader of a group of talented individuals where said talents can help deal with the primals and the empire. Because Minfilia gets captured twice and lacked the ability to fight back, people flanderized her into someone who gets kidnapped all the time like Princess Peach while barking orders at the player character. This is ignoring how in both kidnappings, Minfilia refused to give her captors what they wanted, knowing she could be killed for it, and the fact that Minfilia is the only one willing and able to do the boring political paperwork behind the scenes while the talents of the player character and the rest of her people can be put to good use where they're needed.
      • Similarly, Alphinaud once dove right into the Glory Hound and tried to get the city state leaders to do what he suggested for the betterment of Eorzea. After some really nasty things went down because of him, he ate a huge slice of Humble Pie and tried to better himself by listening to everyone and actively supporting his allies in the field. Despite his Character Development, people will only remember him for his pre character development days.
      • Aymeric gets a ton of flack after he shouts at the Warrior of Light and Alphinaud to toss Nidhogg's eyes into the ravine below the Steps of Faith. This would later bite everyone in the ass due to the Ascians retrieving the eyes and giving them to Ilberd, which he summons a primal with. While nobody in the story could have known any of the events afterwards could happen and Aymeric does regret his mistake, many fans still won't let Aymeric live it down.
      • The Moogles in Heavensward are extremely hated by fans due to how incredibly lazy they are and that they don't even try to hide this, sending players out to do pointless fetch quests. Even though their beast tribe quests introduced later have Moogles that are willing to help out and the ones who don't get hit with Laser-Guided Karma, many people's views on the Moogles are forever soured.
  • Fire Emblem:
    • The series itself is pretty well known for having lots of Brother–Sister Incest (And other kinds of incest). There's a legitimate point to this, given that the Jugdral Chronology has lots of incest (one pairing as a major plot point, a few more strongly implied, and multiple incestuous pairings that players can set up themselves), but Genealogy of the Holy War is the only one where it has a bearing on the main plot.
    • In Fire Emblem: Blazing Blade, Erk is most definitely annoyed by Serra and isn't shy about telling her so. In his B support with Priscilla, he makes a few comments on the stress of having been Serra's escort. Fanon took this to mean he genuinely hates Serra's guts and will loudly bash her to anyone within earshot.
    • Legault's flirtations with Heath in their supports result in a lot of fangirls forgetting the other, more plot-driven aspects of his character. Also, Heath is not the only person Legault flirts with, either.
    • Mysterious Waif Ninian has only broken down in tears twice through the story, and each time for very good reasons, yet fans treat her as if she cried every single time she opened her mouth, and use it to bash her for being "weak" or standing in between Eliwood and Lyn (who has also cried in canon). It took her appearance in Fire Emblem Heroes to shake off some of her stigma.
    • Eliwood's declaration that he has no love for war led to at least half the fandom either bashing him as a "pansy-ass pussy" or painting him as a Nervous Wreck who flails/cries/goes into cardiac arrest at the sight of blood.
    • Hector confides to Eliwood in their B-Support that he had a bad dream about Eliwood's son being romantically involved with Hector's daughter and asks Eliwood to make sure that doesn't happen, alluding to Roy and Lilina's relationship in The Binding Blade. Fans took this as Hector being a very Overprotective Dad in the future who will do many not-nice things to anyone trying to court Lilina, especially Roy. The thing is, this all took place years before Roy and Lilina were even born, and when we see Hector (briefly) in The Binding Blade, his last request is for Roy to take care of Lilina, showing that he's mellowed out after getting to know Roy for real as an upstanding young man like his father. And while some interaction does shows up in Fire Emblem Heroes, Roy's romance (or not) with Lilina is only slightly hinted and although Hector knows, he doesn't mind.
    • Chivalrous Pervert Sain says "oh, beauteous one" exactly one time within the course of the game, but some parts of the fandom treat it like his Catchphrase.
    • Lucius has been mistaken for a woman exactly once (in-universe at least), even though his feminine looks are commented on by several characters.
    • Most fans remember Priscilla for is either her crush on her brother Raymond or her "endless stream of unhappy endings with men". Some have even speculated that she's meant to be "the Madame Bovary of Elibe", completely ignoring that her solo ending is happy on its own, and that she and Erk can be genuinely happy together. Not all her male supports are romantic, either (Oswin and Lucius, anyone?).
    • In the Jugdral Chronology, the protagonist of the first part, Sigurd, does quite a bit in the first half. At the same time, it's unlikely he'll ever shake the fire jokes, due to his final fate being one of the most well-known aspects of the game.
    • In Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, Eirika will never live down giving the Sacred Stone of Renais to the Demon King-possessed Lyon, allowing him to destroy it. Most of why she's such a Base-Breaking Character comes from that scene alone. It doesn't help that she got called "gullible and naive" in one of her DLC cameos in Awakening.
    • Innes tells Eirika he'll prove himself worthy of her love in their A level support. Fanfics pairing Eirika with someone else turn him into a competitive Jerkass who sees her as nothing more than a prize to be won. And fans who support Innes as Eirika's favored suitor use Seth's A support with Eirika (in which he first tries to distance himself from her, but later confesses his own love) to accuse Seth of being sexist, creepy, and possessive of her. The Double Standard is obvious.
    • Ike from Fire Emblem Tellius is known solely for his line in Super Smash Bros. Brawl: "I fight for my friends!" Not so much the line itself, but for the less than stellar voice acting.
    • Ever since a certain base conversation in Radiant Dawn, you'd think all Soren ever did was cry in Ike's arms.
    • Fire Emblem Awakening:
      • Cordelia has plenty more reasons than "boo hoo why won't Chrom love me" to be sad, but to some fans she's nothing more than an Unrequited Tragic Maiden. Quite a few of her support conversations do mention Chrom, including some of her S supports, but she still has a few that bring up her other issues.
      • There's actually a lot more to Libra's character than Dude Looks Like a Lady and Stupid Sexy Flanders, but since those two are the subject of his recruitment conversation and a support with Virion shown before the game was released, those are all fans tend to remember.
      • In regards to all the Children Characters, the fandom loves to focus only on their traumas and experiences in the Bad Future, therefore reducing them solely to their woobie traits, ignoring their surprisingly complex personalities.
      • Inigo will never live down saying "I want to be manhandled!" to Gerome in their supports. The line actually has a very different meaning in-context: he's jealous of all the attention Gerome gets from girls and wishes the ladies would fawn over him that way.
      • Because of her Stripperific clothing and childish demeanor, Nowi is forever "dragon loli", with fans completely ignoring her backstory and personality and the actual depth of her character beyond her appearance.
      • Some fans judge Henry entirely by the localization changes to his supports with Olivia, ignoring the other aspects of his character that aren't all that different from the original Japanese version.
      • Hearing what fans say about Olivia would make you believe she only exists to "heal Henry's broken heart" or "be the girl who has a sudden Fourth Date Marriage with Chrom if you hook them up". Never mind that Olivia can marry guys other than Henry and Chrom.
      • Sadly, this is actually canon for Yarne, who has a reputation as the scared little bunny boy who runs away all the time. Which, granted, he does, but he has reasons for doing so.
      • Frederick's naked poster of Chrom. It is a hilarious moment and the Ho Yay is there, but that alone set off many a fangirl proclaiming his ultimate gayness for Chrom and ignoring the other aspects of his character. There's another subset of the fandom that find his S Support with Cordelia to be uncomfortable due to its shades of Entitled to Have You, and to them Frederick is only remembered as "that guy with the worst S Support in the game." Ignoring all of his other hundred plus supports.
      • Lucina makes one comment about joining Chrom in the mixed baths and has one (admittedly poorly-handled) support set where she shrieks at the female Avatar (if she's not her mother) for supposedly flirting with Chrom. This gets her branded as having an Electra Complex by a good chunk of the fandom.
      • To some sects of the fandom, the Female Avatar is defined by her awkward Belligerent Sexual Tension supports with Chrom, even though she can marry other guys (and can marry Chrom without going through these supports if you know how his auto-marriage works and actually apologizes to Chrom in their A-Support), and the Male Avatar is defined by the fact he can romance his best friend's daughter and sister. (Albeit the former is Less Disturbing in Context due to Time-Travel Romance.)
      • Fandom seems to believe that Nah is nothing but a bitchy Tiny Tyrannical Girl who forces all her eventual boyfriends into marriage via threatening them to eat them alive. The only support chain where she does so is Inigo's; in the others she is at most kinda bossy, but never to such a degree. (She's pretty gentle to male Morgan and Yarne, her bossy tendencies are Played for Laughs with Laurent, her bugging Gerome is treated as playful rather than mean-spirited.)
      • Tharja seems to be almost entirely known, both in the game's fandom and out, as the Avatar's Stalker with a Crush. Many of these portrayals seem removed from the context that she's normally a gloomy, anti-social loner, and the doting Yandere she acts like whenever the subject of the Avatar comes up is meant to be seen as out-of-character for her. It's to the point that even some of her detractors seem to forget her other questionable character traits, like using her family as guinea pigs for dark magic to the point of turning Noire into a Nervous Wreck. Unfortunately, even many of her official appearances in later Fire Emblem games ignore most of her character and fixate on the way she acts toward the Avatar.
      • Chrom is mentioned as having maybe eaten an unpeeled orange once in Gaius and Olivia’s B support. Ask fans, and you’d not only think that’s all he ever eats, but also that he canonically doesn’t know how oranges are actually meant to be eaten.
    • Fire Emblem Fates:
      • Soleil is bisexual but largely prefers women; however, she can only S support with men (all the boys in the Japanese version, Forrest and the male Avatar in English). While it's a valid reason for fans to be disappointed, a lot of them are screaming about how homophobic the game is after reading her poorly-written support chain with a male Avatar. All while conveniently ignoring the fact that the kids aren't as tied to the marriage mechanic as their parents, and it's just as easy to leave Soleil unpaired and at A support with another girl. Many have outright boycotted the game over this.
      • Once the above controversy wore off, fans started to see Soleil as a "predatory lesbian stereotype" due to her constant flirting and C-B rank supports with Ophelia. Admittedly, some of her support chains don't handle her flirting well, but some have even gone so far as to say she should be kept away from women, never mind that she does apologize to Ophelia and has more traits to her than simply chasing girls.
      • Oboro's initial character description was two things: her hatred for Nohr and her feelings for Takumi, the prince she serves. More aspects of her personality were revealed over time (i.e her Team Mom tendences, her love of fashion in general, etc.), as well as the translation of her supports that explain her hatred of Nohr and have her working on it by supporting and potentially marrying two Nohrian guys in the Birthright path, and fully overcoming it via supporting with other two Nohrian guys and a Nohrian woman more in Revelation, but some only remember those initial traits. Also, her feelings for Takumi aren't mentioned often outside of her supports with Takumi himself (obviously) and Hinata (Takumi's other retainer who already knows about her crush).
      • Azura is the Miss Exposition of Fates, so she explains a lot of plot points over the course of the game. This includes two of the game's more controversial ones (namely the throne of Hoshido being required to expose the fake Garon's true form, resulting in Hoshido's invasion during Conquest and the curse of Valla preventing anyone from mentioning it by name), and this colored the fandom's opinion of her quite badly, with some even blaming her for those contrived plot points.
      • The introduction of the child mechanic was somewhat rushed, and the explanation for the children is clumsily handled and contrived, but the child characters themselves are fleshed out and well-developed. Unfortunately, this isn't enough to stop a lot of the fandom from bashing them and defining them by the clumsy mechanic rather than as characters, or from turning on the parent characters and denouncing them as abusive and neglectful. The fact that this is addressed in-game doesn't mitigate the fans' anger.
      • Ryoma, Leo, and Jakob are especially big targets of this: Ryoma for having hit his son Shiro in the Japanese version of the game/yelling at him in English (plus hiding the fact that he's royalty), Leo for chewing out his son Forrest for his Wholesome Crossdresser ways, and Jakob for being competitive with his son Dwyer and calling him out on his laziness. Fans who bash the fathers for these instances conveniently ignore the fact that Shiro does point out that Ryoma made a mistake and that Ryoma tries harder to be a good dad, Leo apologizes to Forrest and spends their entire support chain trying to be supportive and encouraging while still firm, and that not only does Jakob care for his son, but that Dwyer himself is lazy and surly and responds to Jakob just as competitively.
      • Takumi is a Base-Breaking Character, and his detractors treat him as though all he did was yell at and hate the Avatar before going Brainwashed and Crazy in Conquest. Some also find it hard to forgive his shooting of Elise for speaking up for Corrin in Cheve. (Never mind that he was, as before, not himself at the timeExplanation(Spoilers) .)
      • Even though Rhajat's Tharja-esque traits were somewhat amped up in the localization, she still has far more to her character than that. Her detractors, however, stubbornly ignore this fact in order to keep bashing her, "forgetting" that her non-Avatar supports give her several Pet the Dog moments and a genuine desire to make more friends.
      • Leo's feelings for Camilla, among some sectors of the fandom. Due to The Making of Fire Emblem stating that his behavior towards Camilla in their support indicates a past crush on her, some fans believe he never got over it and that it defines him and his relationships with the women he can marry. This despite the fact that these feelings are never mentioned in the present, and Leo is completely capable of falling in love with women despite not being completely flawless around them.
      • Kiragi is a sweet and helpful keet who shows some Cute and Psycho traits in a DLC stage (that was also never released outside Japan), and only around a few of his possible mothers (Rinkah, Camilla and Azura). Naturally, the fandom has made him a full-blown Creepy Child who does nothing but cackle psychotically.
      • Much like Sigurd, Flora will also never escape the fire jokes, due to the scene in Birthright where she kills herself via self-immolation.
    • Fire Emblem Gaiden:
      • Conrad from the remake has gotten several nasty posts aimed at him on tumblr, accusing him of being a "woman beater" due to one scene in which he delivers a Get Ahold Of Yourself Man on Celica. Never mind that Boey calls him out on it, Conrad feels bad afterwards, and he never does it again.
      • Rinea from the same game is remembered for one of two things: either being Berkut's wet blanket fiancée who constantly calls out his violent streak, or the constant memes surrounding her death scene, which involves her getting set on fire, just like Sigurd and Flora before her.
    • Fire Emblem: Three Houses
      • The game brings us yet another immolation victim in the form of Bernadetta, who is burned to death at Gronder Field on some routes. At this point, if any Fire Emblem character is set on fire, that'll be what they're remembered for. It's worth noting that Bernadetta doesn't actually seem to take damage from the fire, so it's unclear as to whether Edelgard was really willing to sacrifice her classmate.
      • Leonie and Cyril have a lot of traits that make them unique and have some well-developed supports with other characters. Unfortunately, because of Leonie's admittedly disliked support with Byleth and Cyril's aloof personality, they've been exaggerated by the fans to be utterly obsessed with Jeralt and Rhea respectively, basically ignoring any other traits or supports they have. Making things worse in Leonie's case is that her A-support with Byleth gives a Jerkass Realization and a genuine apology, but true to this trope, the fandom doesn't really acknowledge it because of how bad her first impression was to many (fans of hers argue that her B-support being locked until after Jeralt's death was the writers really screwing her over). Cyril has it even worse, considering his relative popularity compared to Leonie as he lacks the same amount of focus Leonie gets until late enough where people will have no reason to use him. In his case, it doesn't help that players who choose the Black Eagles will have less opportunity to see his better traits, as depending on your choice in Chapter 11 he's either unrecruitable and an enemy who will stand with Rhea even at her worst or joins with no fanfare in Chapter 12, giving the player little opportunity to use or build supports with him.
      • Leonie also gets a lot of flak for her C support with Marianne, in which she responds to Marianne's gloomy and self-deprecating behavior with a backhanded apology and a refusal to spend any more time with Marianne. While this was hardly Leonie's best moment, she does apologize to Marianne in her next support, and generally isn't this abrasive with her classmates.
      • Some people can't get over Alois and Gilbert due to how their S-support ranks are misleading and blaming them for the game's dual-male options. Even though they are well-rounded characters and their supports with Byleth still are sweet even if they aren't romantic, since they offer Byleth their Undying Loyalty regardless of gender, they still get harsh treatment from some fans.
      • Rhea's infamous lap pillow scene with Byleth at the end of Chapter 10, in which she cradles Byleth's head in her lap as the latter regains consciousness after the battle, in which Byleth's consciousness merged with Sothis due to its framing, atmosphere, execution, and creepy implications, has had many fans painting her as a Memetic Molester, also not helped by the fact that romancing her is also possibly romancing your grandma who is also your daughter.
      • Ingrid gets a lot of criticism for her xenophobia towards the people of Duscur, despite the fact that it only comes up in-game during her supports with Dedue, plus one monastery conversation, both of which are exclusive to Azure Moon (as that monastery conversation is replaced in the other routes by her praising the bountiful resources of Garreg Mach) — meaning that if you play any other route first and recruit her, it's still possible to miss it entirely. Additionally, those same supports see her coming to regret her hostility towards him and apologizing to Dedue for her behavior. It's made clear that Ingrid never had all of the information regarding the Tragedy of Duscur, she was younger and more impressionable when it happened, and it's only because her fiancé Glenn Fraldarius died in the Tragedy that she's facing constant pressure from her father to accept an arranged marriage that will support the Galatea family financially — but none of this matters to the fans who write her off derisively as a xenophobe. Ironically, this wasn't the first time that Intelligent Systems wrote a character that dealt with being a bigot; they previously did it with Jill, and she got over it enough to become a fan favorite, but she never (or at least just rarely) had a Never Live It Down phenomenon, unlike Ingrid.
      • Sylvain’s playboy antics. While it’s not particularly difficult to view him as a shallow philanderer due to the fact that it’s his most prominent character trait, he’s also another character that falls in line with there being more to him than that meets the eye. Looking deeper into his supports and his actions over the course of the game would reveal that his laid-back behavior is merely a front he puts on to mask his insecurities and to keep others from having high expectations of him. Not only is he shown to be one of the most intelligent and reflective characters in the story, he is also far more dark than he initially lets on.
  • In HuniePop, while a lot of players understand why Tiffany is hostile towards her mom, she gets a lot of this. HuniePop 2 has made this worse with her cutting off social media ties which Jessie is clearly saddened by.
  • Kingdom Hearts:
    • Kairi only gets properly kidnapped twice in the series (both in II, and in the first instance she actually escapes on her own; the first game had her lifeless body held captive by Riku but her heart/essence safe with Sora, and Riku was protecting her body), yet most of the fandom apparently will forever deem her a Damsel Scrappy who "always gets kidnapped" regardless. And sadly, since Nomura likes to write characters how the fans see them, Kairi becomes a more legitimate Damsel Scrappy in III, with far worse consequences.
    • In Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, Terra has the unfortunate tendency to meet villains before meeting heroes whenever he travels, and those villains take advantage of the fact that he doesn't know they're evil to manipulate him. Usually, he figures it out partway through and foils their schemes, and in the one case he did majorly help a villain, he was mind-controlled into doing it. However, he has garnered a reputation among the fans for being easily duped and believing anything a villain says, cheerfully helping them out to the detriment of everyone else. His trust in Xehanort is also held against him, despite the fact that at that point in the timeline, nobody knew Xehanort was evil, and he was still a highly respected Keyblade master.
  • No matter how many times Kirby heroically and selflessly saves the world from evil forces in, thanks to Kirby: Squeak Squad he will always be known by some people as the "hero" who went on a murderous rampage over a slice of cake.
  • Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords:
    • In-game example: The Jedi Exile is there when the planet Peragus is destroyed (depending on the player's choices, s/he could even be responsible for it in attempting to destroy their pursuers). Regardless of whether or not the Exile is actually responsible, it seems everyone and their Twi'lek dancer is reminding them about it. On one occasion where you're allowed to pick a line about how it wasn't the Exile's fault, the character's response is that of course it was, since the Exile chose to go to Peragus. Sadly, there is no option to comment on how the Exile didn't choose to go to Peragus and was only even anywhere near there because s/he was drugged and rendered unconscious by an assassin droid hired by that same character in the first place.
    • The Exile was also responsible for the destruction of Malachor V in the backstory; some characters seem to extrapolate this and Peragus and come to the conclusion that blowing up planets is some kind of regular habit for her/him.
    • An out-of-universe example happens with the Disciple. He's already a bit of The Scrappy, since his Distaff Counterpart on male playthroughs has a much more developed backstory while his own story was rushed in at the last minute, and he's the non-preferred member of the quasi-love triangle between himself, the Exile, and Atton. He has a major moment of Sarcasm Blindness on Nar Shaddaa, which is all that most players seem to remember apart from being a "Jedi fanboy". This leaves out the fact that he was smart enough to figure out Revan's real plan for the galaxy, that he makes several criticisms of the Jedi, and the one he's fanboying is the one they kicked out. Nor does he accept the Council's decision that she's a menace to the Force.
  • Francis has this in Left 4 Dead during the Crash Course campaign. Ever since Zoey shot the (infected) helicopter pilot that got them away from Mercy Hospital and they wound up crashing, Francis will take every moment he can get to remind Zoey of what she did.
  • In The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel, fans - at least Western ones - will never get over the fact that Alisa reacted to Rean's Accidental Pervert moment when she lands on top of him, boobs to his face, with a violent slap and not apologizing for three whole weeks after all of Class VII fell on a trap door with Rean trying to save Alisa. Never mind her toning down her Tsundere moments later in the game, her bonding scenes with Rean, and her getting over it.
  • The Legend of Zelda:
    • Zelda is known for being kidnapped constantly and being a helpless damsel-in-distress, and saving her is the plot of every game. This is not the case. Zelda admittedly has been kidnapped, enchanted, turned to stone and whatnot for half of the games she's been in, but even in those games, her capture is usually just part of the villain's scheme. The main goal is the Triforce or some other powerful relic, and she's captured precisely because she's a powerful mage who would cause a lot of trouble if getting rid of her wasn't Step 1. For example, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild has is indeed trapped by Ganon for the whole game... but she's so powerful that he's trapped as well and they've been engaged in a century-long standoff.
    • If one happens to run across a page that makes an example of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker and isn't joking at Link's expense, then it'll be gushing about him stabbing Ganon through the head.
    • The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword has Fi. Most fans loathe her for effectively taking the Annoying Video Game Helper factor Up to Eleven, even rivaling fellow Exposition Fairy Navi. While she can get rather annoying, by the way some people talk about her, she constantly interrupts gameplay every five seconds and always reports information shown right in front of your face. The fact that Tatl, the King of Red Lions, and Midna were fan-favorites didn't help, and Fi's comparatively cold and sometimes creepy disposition only made it worse.
    • For that matter, Navi's annoying nature itself is often exaggerated. While she does interrupt gameplay often in the early portions of the game and sometimes calls you during gameplay to give you pieces of advice or refreshers on where to go next, you don't actually have to listen to those pieces of advice unless she does interrupt you, and even then, she does it far less often starting from the second dungeon. However, listening to some fans, you'd almost think she interrupts the game often enough to be near unplayable, and goes out of her way to annoy you.
    • If you ever find an online reference to Teba from The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, the one thing that people will bring up about him is that he says "Dammit!" in a Zelda game.
    • Princess Ruto is the only one of Link's Ocarina of Time love interests who actually makes her feelings known. Unfortunately, a lot of people were soured by how she ordered Link around and made him carry her through Jabu Jabu's belly. She has since been portrayed as completely obsessed with marrying Link, even though when Link meets her again at the Water Temple, she's not as brash as she used to be and realizes that both she and Link have bigger things to worry about than their relationship (her duties as a Sage and him saving Hyrule).
    • Ilia from Twilight Princess snaps once at Link for accidentally injuring Epona's leg. Her hatedoom, and especially some of the Zelda/Link and Midna/Link shippers, interpreted it as Ilia being a short-tempered Jerkass who cares more about Link's horse than him. Ilia actually apologizes for this a few minutes later and even admits that she was being too harsh on him (and in Ilia's defense, she thought Epona got injured because Link did something stupid as opposed to what actually happened). Also, Link shrugged this incident off as it was nothing.
  • Matt Furniss is a composer who was active throughout The 16-bit Era of Console Video Games, and contributed to many well-regarded soundtracks across multiple consoles and home computers. He also, as a joke, included a hidden message in the files for the Amiga game Mad Professor Mariarti in which he threatened to break the legs of anyone who tried to hack the game. Guess which of these things he's more well known for across the internet.
  • Mass Effect:
    • A sizable majority of the fan base will never let Ashley or Kaidan live down what happened on Horizon in Mass Effect 2, largely thanks to a severe case of Fourth Wall Myopia.
    • Ash gets a whole lot of online flack for being the "racist" of the group. In reality, all she does is ask if letting non-Alliance personnel walk around their fleet's prototype ship is a good idea; individually, she treats her non-human teammates the same way she does everyone else. Compare Garrus's interactions with Wrex and Tali, or Tali's assertion that her people were perfectly justified in firing the first shot of their Robot War.
    • In Mass Effect 3, Ashley and Kaidan, assuming Shepard tries to bury the hatchet, question Shepard's loyalty at three separate points: when Cerberus is attacking an Alliance base during their first mission fighting with Shepard again, when they find a Cerberus soldier that looks like a husk during that same mission, and when Shepard is pointing a gun at one of the leaders of the galaxy during a terrorist attack. In the final incident, when Cerberus stages a coup in the citadel, those trust issues may finally be resolved, or end up in the Virmire survivor's death, if the player cannot, or doesn't want to convince them. To hear some fans talk about it, they spent the entire first half of the game, or in Ashley's case all of it, harping on the issue.
    • One of the only things Liara is known for in Mass Effect 3 is always being in Shepard's cabin every two or three seconds or always fawning over Shepard.
    • Kai Leng has yet to live down eating Captain Anderson's cereal. He is an assassin, and has done many far worse and important things, yet this is what he's most known for.
    • In universe, spoken nearly word-for-word by Garrus regarding the turian Primarch in Mass Effect 3, after it's discovered his son screwed up a very important mission. Ultimately subverted, though. The Primarch's son makes a Heroic Sacrifice that makes up for the screw-up.
    • The Turian councilor, Sparatus, will always be the "Ah, yes, Reapers" guy to the fandom at large. It doesn't matter that he becomes a crucial ally to Shepard very early in 3. It doesn't matter that he's a critical factor in the Alliance and the Turians working together to stop the Reapers. It doesn't matter that he's the only Councilor who doesn't wind up making Shepard's job harder in a very significant way. The second most fans see him, they're making air quotes.
  • Mega Man:
    • Zero is known in the fandom for dying and resurrecting at the drop of a hat, which isn't exactly fair. He's only died canonically 3 times, and only technically came back from it twice; the third time was as the Model-Z biometal, where it's debatable if he's the same Zero anymore. Zero's first two deaths were meant to stick, but he was saved by fan popularity the first time, and Capcom refusing to let the X series end the second time.
    • X himself isn't much better. Zero was supposed to die in X5, but it was retconned to a near-death - and X himself also nearly died. Zero died later on when the Ragnarok Satellite fell, and by then X was already dead and even his 'cyber-elf' spirit had vanished from the physical world. And X was also brought back as a biometal same time as Zero. Discounting the retconned death, Zero has died twice, X once, and both have a close-call each. And then, there was X's severe Badass Decay in X7, whining "Why must we fight?" among other things. Mega Man X: Command Mission and Mega Man X8 attempted to rectify this by making X more no-nonsense and willing to fight, even stating in X8 that the present conflict can only be resolved through fighting.
    • Alia will always be the X series' Annoying Video Game Helper thanks to her unskippable, often common sense advice in Mega Man X5, even as later games in the series made listening to her optional and tried to make her advice more useful (though X7 backslid a bit by giving her a very annoying voice and having her constantly chime in whenever she has something to say, even repeating herself if you switch characters.)
    • Axl made a terrible first impression in X7, effectively being the game's whiny fanboy kid version of Raiden, and gameplay-wise being largely an inferior version of X. Even after Mega Man X: Command Mission and Mega Man X8 gave him more of his own identity, a more mature voice, and didn't have him hogging the spotlight from X, it took some time for fans to warm up to him.
    • X7 in general had such a poor reception that most people wrote off the much-better X8 and Mega Man: Maverick Hunter X for years, believing that all 3D X games were irredeemably awful.
    • Guts Man of Mega Man, believed to be a Dumb Muscle mostly thanks to his portrayal in the animated series, and certainly not helped by his incarnation in Mega Man Battle Network. Mega Man Powered Up tried to correct this, by explicitly showing that, while Guts Man really isn't a genius, he's not that dumb, either.
    • From Mega Man Star Force, there's Luna, the Muggle who got blown up and then put back together again.
  • In-story of Mercenaries 2, your mercenary will be known throughout Venezuela as "the merc that Solano shot in the ass". It doesn't matter how many people get shot or how many bases get blown up, as what happened in the intro will get referenced by enemies and allies alike. This is to the point that your mercenary will respond "it was the upper thigh" with more and more irritation as the story progresses.
  • Metal Gear:
  • Apparently, "I're stain mah hends with your bra!" and "You cannot escape flom dess!" are the only things Geese Howard ever says according to some fans. Those phrases originated from Capcom vs. SNK. Also, it appears that for anything in regards to SNK characters, the only artwork or voice samples they will ever use of them is from CvS1 or CvS2, invariably.
  • Metroid: Despite the fact that only five planets Samus has ever been on exploded (one of which wasn't even her fault), fans still joke that every planet she sets foot on is doomed to be blown up by her at the end of the game. Rather justified though when you consider how big a deal exploding a fricking planet really is, let alone five of them.
  • Neverwinter Nights has an example in the fan-made continuation of the main campaign Aribeth's Redemption: everyone (even Aribeth) seems to forget about her years of invaluable contribution to the city of Neverwinter and the fact that she barely damaged the city's surrounding territories at all during the Luskan war, all because she was mind-controlled into leading an enemy army to attack the city. Then again, this might be justified.
  • Ahh, PAYDAY 2. A great game at heart, but it will be more-or-less remembered for two things; Cloakers who have quite vulgar things to say to their kicked-down victims and alongside Bo Andersson's treatment of the community, those infamous safes and drills from the Black Market update. Although the latter was removed as of Update #100, and even the development team has sort of mocked their inclusion (which, to be fair, was more Executive Meddling than anything the developers did).
  • Persona:
    • Persona 2: Philemon. He's doing his best as the antithesis of Nyarlathotep, guiding the heroes to unlock their potential. However, fans will not forget that he dared make the bet with Nyarlathotep about humanity's prevailing feature, which causes all the horrible things that happened in Innocent Sin, thus they forget all his 'deeds' to genuinely help the humanity to fall into Nyarlathotep's designs, and is always going to be a Jerkass God that deserves to be punched in the face by Tatsuya. In fact, had Philemon not made that bet, then Nyarly probably would've turned the entire world into his bitch, given that he's free to do as he pleases whereas Philemon can only observe.
    • Persona 3:
      • Akihiko's unhealthy obsession with training and protein-based products, the latter having only been referenced once in the game. Even with the demeaning nicknames given to him and the rest of the Persona 4: Arena cast, his portrayal as an incredibly battle hungry protein junkie in that game is so in-your-face that it's the most memorable parts about him now. Never mind the circumstances that lead to such an obsession which he had supposedly curbed after witnessing his best friend get shot in front of him, and never mind that he was actually rather keen and intelligent either; both fan perception and his P4A portrayal make it seem it's as if he never had that resolve in the first place, and he's only marginally smarter than Kanji. Then Persona Q Flanderized him even more.
      • Yukari Takeba from the same game will always be seen by fans as the girl who Took a Level in Jerkass and tried to risk dooming the world just to see the protagonist again after her actions in The Answer, despite the fact she develops out of this mentality.
      • There is a massive amount of the the fanbase that will NEVER forgive Ken Amada's actions during October 4th, when he confronts Shinjiro alone on the anniversary of the day Shinjiro killed Ken's mom(which happens to be the battle with the Strength and Fortune Shadows), and during the confrontation, Takaya attacks and wounds Shinjiro, before moving to kill Ken, only for Shinjiro to take the bullet and die from his wounds minutes later. Despite later scenes showing him mourning Shinjiro's death, Ultimax showing him move on with his life and Persona Q even taking him out of the Tier-Induced Scrappy he was in.
    • Persona 4: For the most part, Dojima is a surprisingly competent detective in a case in which the normal rules don't apply due to the TV Dimension, trusts the protagonist a great deal, and tries to be a good father to Nanako. A good portion of the fanbase, however, mainly focuses on his actions on November 5, in which after the protagonist gets a second threatening letter (the protagonist didn't show Dojima the first one), Dojima takes the protagonist in for questioning, leading to his daughter getting kidnapped, and conclude that he's none of those things.
    • Persona 5:
      • Haru is one of the nicest characters in the entire game, if not the nicest character. However, her comments for when Joker cheats on her (aka her stating she will crush her Valentine's Day chocolate for him) and having some...interesting dialogues in Mementos caused her to be treated as a Memetic Psychopath among the fans.
      • Ryuji tends to use a No Indoor Voice in which nearly got the Phantom Thieves into trouble by being caught twice (once in Kaneshiro's arc where Makoto overheard him, and another in a sushi bar where the Phantom Thieves had to make a quick excuse). However, fans tend to treat like he does that on a regular basis. It is also noteworthy that there were other times where the Phantom Thieves had their identities unintentionally be known to other people that had nothing to deal with Ryuji's No Indoor Voice.
      • "For real?!" is often associated with Ryuji. While he does say it quite a lot, he is not the only character that does this. Ann and Futaba also say it quite a lot.
      • There's also Morgana, whose apparent sole purpose is to force you to go to bed early when you don't want to- on days you've been to the Metaverse or on certain story days (the former of which can be bypassed by getting a massage from Kawakami if you max out her confidant link). Oddly enough, Sojiro, who refuses to let you leave Yongen-Jayanote  until early May, or even go outside Leblanc for the first couple weeks, doesn't get blamed nearly as much.
      • Akechi only mentions pancakes ONCE over the course of the game, which, admittedly, becomes a plot pointnote . The fandom took it and ran with it, treating pancakes as his Trademark Favorite Food.
      • Yusuke gets some hate over trying to get Ann, a victim of sexual harassment, to pose nude for him. While his behavior isn't appropriate, he wasn't trying to sexually harass Ann; he simply never imagined there was anything sexual about having a beautiful girl pose nude for him. In fact, if the player proposes having Ann pose nude for him during Yusuke's Confidant, Yusuke says he's moved past that.
  • Pokémon:
    • Professor Oak will never be able to live down the fact that at the start of Pokémon Red and Blue, he couldn't remember his own grandson's name, allowing the player character to potentially give him a quite unflattering one. Ditzy Genius indeed.
    • Furthermore, Oak is infamous for his words echoing whenever the player character tries to ride a bike indoors.
    • N's childhood room in Pokémon Black and White plus his sheltered upbringing has led fandom to characterize him as a Manchild who still plays with toy trains and doesn't know where babies come from.
    • Silver from HeartGold and SoulSilver strips the player character of their Team Rocket disguise. For a long time after, fandom treated him like a Memetic Molester.
    • Charizard is never going to escape mockery from the fandom for being a fire-breathing dragon that isn't a Dragon-type, even after it got a Mega Evolution that makes it part-Dragon. Even moreso when Pokémon Sun and Moon made Exeggutor of all Pokémon a Dragon-type without needing to Mega Evolve. Charizard will also never be allowed to forget that, despite having a badass appearance and desirable battle stats, it also has a crippling weakness to Stealth Rock. Stealth Rock damages Pokémon as they switch in - specifically, with Rock-type damage, which Charizard takes four-times damage from. Charizard enters the battle, and then dies instantly. Oops.
    • Yungoos and its evolution Gumshoos, the Ratatta-esque line of Sun and Moon, will forever be known as the Pokémon who look like Donald Trump.
    • Parasect is best known in the fandom as the Pokémon that's useful only for countering Alakazam, and little else. It didn't help that its Spore-Leech Life combination was the hardest hit that could land on a Psychic-type Pokémon in Gen I due to a type effectiveness glitch involving Ghost-type Pokémon.
    • In some cases, a Pokémon's infamy could have been taken into consideration for removal when Dexit infamously happened with Gen VIIInote :
      • Jynx is almost certain to be forever overshadowed by the controversy that its original blackface-esque design generated, with the Virtual Console release of Yellow altering its sprite, anime episodes with the old design being edited or cut entirely, and Jynx's lack of prominence since then.
      • Porygon and its evolutions will never live down being the focus and namesake of the infamous anime episode that sent hundreds of children in Japan to the hospital with seizures and other ill-effects because of Epileptic Flashing Lights. This incident caused the show to go on hiatus for a few months and nearly snuffed out the still-fledgling franchise. The series was able to recover eventually, but the episode was banned from ever being rerun (even after it was edited to tone down the dangerous flashing lights), and no members of the Porygon family were ever shown in the anime again. Nintendo clearly still remembers the fallout from the "Porygon Episode", because its entire evolutionary family was unavailable in Gen VIII. This is in spite of the fact that, in the episode, Porygon didn't even cause the flashing lights; they were instead caused by an anti-virus program sent by Nurse Joy that targeted both the heroes and the villains, with the most infamous shot being from Pikachu blowing up two of its missiles with an electric shock.
      • Kadabra is best known for triggering a lawsuit from Uri Geller over similarities between names and alleged abilities. This got Kadabra Exiled from Continuity in phases: first, the Trading Card Game booted it, then it hasn't appeared at all in the anime since 2005, a Pokémon Ranger game featured Abra and Alakazam but not Kadabra, and ultimately the entire Abra line was among the victims of Dexit, and the scuttlebug was that the prior claims by Geller factored into its initial exclusion from Gen VIII. Perhaps not coincidentally, its return in the Isle of Armor indicated that Geller was ultimately coming to terms with his bad reputation among the fandom and finally apologized for causing the franchise so much trouble, culminating in the return of Kadabra to the TCG.
      • Chatot is best known for being banned in tournaments due to vulgar trolls and its selling point being nerfed as a result. Unlike the above three, Chatot never even appeared in Gen VIII's expansions.
  • Resident Evil: Chris Redfield will never be allowed to forget his narmiest moment, punching a boulder in Resident Evil 5. ProtonJon viewers in particular get to see the moment whenever they trigger a certain stream alert, which sees Chris punch said boulder at his nemesis Albert Wesker.
  • In Resonance of Fate, Vashyron calls a well endowed woman's boobs "Bunker Busters" and gets a rather strange dance to go along with it. While he does make innuendos throughout the game, he only uses that line and dance once. Cue Project X Zone where he spouts that line every time he encounters one of the more fan-servicey characters, and will say it when paired with KOS-MOS and T-elos as their solo unit. His dance will very frequently pop up too, again if he's paired with KOS-MOS and T-elos.
  • Silent Hill 2:
    • James Sunderland has done many impressive things, like fight Pyramid Head and win, but the one of the things he is most remembered for is jumping into a large, dark abyss with no prompting towards the end of the game. From then on, any time a Silent Hill protagonist encounters a hole, players ask "What would James do?"
    • There's also the scene where James, without any hesitation, plunges his hand into a clogged-up filthy toilet to get a wallet. It's metaphorically meant to show his suicidal and self-destructive behavior. And even the game developers can't resist mocking him for it.
  • Shin Megami Tensei: While YHVH is undeniably bad news, most of the games give both Law and Chaos good points along with their bad, and the Big Guy is commonly given a more nuanced portrayal despite his relative antagonist status. That being said, it's unlikely the fans will forget his depiction in the second game anytime soon. Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse only goes further with this, completely ignoring any nuance He had and making Him a fairly standard petty Card-Carrying Villain.
  • The Sims 2:
    • Strangetown premade Vidcund Curious is well known for his Potty Failure that resulted in him being dumped by Circe Beaker. Some circles have even dubbed wetting one's pants a "Vidcund Moment".
  • Sonic the Hedgehog:
    • Shadow has had his own reputation ruined by his own self-titled game. In his debut in Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow's personality was not too different from Sonic's; while he conducted himself more seriously, he shared Sonic's cocky and confident attitude and saw him as a respectable Worthy Opponent. Shadow's game however marketed him as a '90s Anti-Hero who swears and uses firearms and suddenly he's far less friendly to Sonic (and in some endings, desires to defeat him to prove his superiority). Despite his character reverting to Adventure 2 levels in the aforementioned Sonic 06, it didn't stick and Shadow has since been labelled a moody, angsty, and brooding "edgelord" and later adaptations usually adopted that personality onto him, long after Shadow the Hedgehog released.
    • Vector the Crocodile, who will always be best remembered for four infamous words he shouted in Shadow the Hedgehog: "FIND THE COMPUTER ROOM!"
    • Silver the Hedgehog is remembered for incessantly screaming "IT'S NO USE!" in his infamously hard battle. It's somewhat understandable that the phrase would get stuck in players' heads after repeatedly hearing it, but it gets a bit silly when people think this is his catchphrase when he only says it in one game.
  • Patroklos gets hit with this hard in Soul Calibur V. No matter how much Character Development you go through, when your first major onscreen action is to brutally murder an innocent on the suspicion of being Malfested, all with a deranged, psychotic grin on your face, people tend to hold that against you.
  • Spyro the Dragon:
    • Spyro: A Hero's Tail: Ember, a minor dragon character, flirts with Spyro for most of her very few lines and is the only character in the original games that explicitly expressed romantic interest in him. Fans cranked up her crush to the point that she was completely obsessed with marrying Spyro and would do anything to get him. Things only got worse for her when Cynder was introduced.
    • The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night: In the beginning, Cynder leaves the Dragon Temple out of guilt for her actions while she was corrupted. Fans then acted like she does nothing but angst about her past afterward, even though she only does so whenever someone brings her past up.
  • Star Fox 64: Peppy Hare does say "Do a Barrel Roll!" a few times, but only two or three times in the entire game. Thanks to Memetic Mutation, a lot of fans think that Peppy shouts this infamous quote all the time during the game.
  • Superman 64:
    • Aside from its reputation as one of the worst games of all time, gameplay-wise it is mostly known as "that game where you fly through rings". There is actually a bit more to the game than that, including punching enemies, navigating mazes, blowing away tornadoes and, of course, Escort Missions. Not that that's saying much, given the horrible controls that make most people give up on the game in frustration.
    • Titus Software existed from 1985–2005 and developed many games, one of them being Prehistorik, but most people only remember them as "that company that developed Superman 64"note .
    • The game has doomed Superman's video game legacy as an unofficial mascot of The Problem with Licensed Games. Its poor critical reception ensured that a new Superman game would not be made for a long time. It doesn't help that later Superman games have also suffered from The Problem with Licensed Games.
  • In Third Super Robot Wars Z: Tengoku-hen, Sumeragi, has a one-off line excusing a bunch of nonreturning characters by way of saying "nah, let's split our force to keep the enemy busy", and /m/ turned that into "Sumeragi gets rid of everybody".
  • Super Mario Bros. has several examples:
    • For Game Theory fans, the folks at Dorkly Originals and very few other people, Mario will be forever thought as a psychopath and the real villain of the franchise due to the "Mario is Mental" theory and its very big Ron the Death Eater supply.
    • There was a period of time where Nintendo hinted at Luigi having a dark secret, as well as having him be mind-controlled into a Face–Heel Turn by the main villain of Super Paper Mario, spurring on a deluge of fanfics and ROMhacks painting him as being driven to villainy by his jealousy of Mario, despite his portrayal in later games as a Reluctant Hero who very much loves his brother and would rather just stay at home and let him save the day instead (his battles with King Boo were because the ghost kidnapped Mario).
    • Even though she's shown in many spinoff games to be a total badass (including slapping Bowser so hard that he becomes a Twinkle in the Sky in Mario Party 3), the only thing that Princess Daisy will ever be known for is her appearance in Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, where one of her most prominent quotes is "Hi, I'm Daisy!", which she says when switching drivers with her or when she wins a race in first place, which can potentially lead to it becoming a bit repetitive. Double Dash is the only game where Daisy says the line in, but in spite of this many people act as if "Hi, I'm Daisy" was the only thing she ever says.
    • Yoshi is often thought of as a mindless monster who eats people, gets ridden on all the time, and speaks like a Pokémon. However, the earlier games have shown that he is kind, intelligent, and perfectly capable of speech, and ever since the GameCube era, he has stood in a pose that makes him practically impossible to ride.
    • Princess Peach has taken many levels in badass over the years, but is still treated like a Damsel Scrappy who never does anything but get kidnapped and bake cakes. Granted, the gamemakers do rely too much on her classic role as The Artifact, but that doesn't erase the existence of her contributions in the RPGs and utter badassery in her own game and in Super Mario 3D World. There's also her hesitating before denying she's Bowser Jr.'s mother in Super Mario Sunshine.
    • It seems Peach may not be able to live down what happens in the end of Super Mario Odyssey. Many paint her as an Ungrateful Bitch for rejecting Mario and Bowser's proposals, leaving them in tears and seemingly ditching them on the moon while hijacking the Odyssey, even though Peach can be heard calling out "Let's go home!" with Mario and Bowser following her command, and in her defense, she only really rejected their proposals due to their brash methods of proposing to her literally amounting to them shoving flowers in her face. Conversely, this also puts Mario and Bowser at blame for acting very selfish in regards to their affections for Peach. Unlike her, however, they're in the process of living that down, though Mario will have to carry the stigma of getting friendzoned for a long time despite Peach's rejection not being anywhere nearly as terminal (this very game shows in the postgame that the two are still on good terms, and the Ship Tease is resumed in the ending of Super Mario Maker 2).
    • Bowser himself also counts, when Paper Mario revealed he wants Princess Peach for himself (instead of having the will to endanger her), turns kidnapping her into his Achilles' Heel and helps cause another defeat in the hands of Mario, arguably doing more damage to Bowser than her, but he never cares about that. Even as a greater threat, kidnapping her to make her rule alongside is still a noticeable misstep for a Knight of Cerebus. Let's face it, the best way Bowser will rule the Mushroom World is either getting over Princess Peach or choosing to fully focus on destroying the Super Mario Brothers before kidnapping her. In addition, making him a greater threat in the Galaxy games doesn't exactly erase those few times Bowser put his own selfish desires (like reclaiming his castle) above what card-carrying villains and evil overlords are all about, by choosing to help Mario instead of Smithy, Cackletta, or Dimentio. Despite what he thought, doing that doesn't make him more evil the way helping those villains. He might've even had a deal with Smithy to help destroy Mario, and even agree to have Smithy make "Machine Made" duplicates of him like Smithy's actual minions Mack, Bowyer, Yaridovich and the Axem Rangers did (and they were definitely evil ''before'' joining the Smithy Gang) to destroy our heroes.
    • In Mario Power Tennis, Mario steps on Luigi's foot in a mildly OOC act of Sibling Rivalry. This scene is always brought up when people try to paint Mario as a Big Brother Bully, or a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, even though the evidence to the contrary more than outnumbers it.
    • Thanks to The Runaway Guys (especially Chuggaaconroy), Wario is best known especially in the Mario Party fandom for saying "D'oh, I missed!" (a mishearing of the German "So ein Mist!") any time something goes south for him. Keep in mind that he only says this in three early games.
  • Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle has Beep-0 swearing THREE times in Spooky Trails. And the only two characters the game is ever known for are Rabbid Peach, and the Phantom.
  • Chrom got hit with the trailer for his companions Robin and daughter Lucina in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U. He lays on the ground unconscious after a brawl with Captain Falcon, which is where he ends up for almost all of the trailer until he wakes up and quips that he might get another chance to fight in Smash another time. He was then shown later in the video- as a Final Smash for Robin. Fans ran wild with this revelation, and jokes about Chrom and his in-game status were immediately spread out across the internet. It doesn't help that Palutena makes fun of this in Robin's Palutena's Guidance segment in the Wii U version. With Chrom's addition as an Echo Fighter of Roy in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, this case finally died out.
  • Tales Series:
    • One has to really pity Dhaos. He was a fairly badass villain with a reasonably understandable motive and tragic backstory, but thanks to the Game Boy Advance port of Tales of Phantasia having poor English voice acting, he is never ever going to live down reacting to Edward D. Morrison's Indignation with a poorly delivered "What the heck is that?!" Apparently that's all he can ever say or do. Dhaos and Indignation in itself is also a case as, yes, in his original game it did force him to retreat and in the first boss battle with him it can end the battle early if his health is low enough, but in the fandom its gotten to the point where it apparently can kill him in one hit. In most games he's in (As well as his expy Sekundes) it only merely does a lot of damage to him and will only trigger a special scene if his health is low enough (for example, see Rita's Thunder Blade on him in the PS3 version of Vesperia.)
    • Veigue of Tales of Rebirth is only remembered by the fandom as "that guy who screams his girlfriend's name a lot."
    • Cheria of Tales of Graces is best remembered as a Damsel in Distress, even though the kindapping was very brief - the quest to save her takes maybe ten minutes out of a 60+ hour game - and Cheria herself fought off the attackers by the time the party arrives.
    • Jude Mathis in Tales of Xillia had a moment where he gave some of his Mana to Muzét, a spirit who was in bad physical condition at the time, and it was turned into a joke that he 'tethered' with her and filling her up with lots of mana. The sequel turned this into a bit of a running joke, with a skit of Muzét bringing this situation up and one other scene of another spirit Aska, in a fractured dimension mentioning that Jude 'tethered' with it, too. The only time Jude 'tethering' with a spirit was actually shown, was with Muzét in the first game and the rest was off-screen, so technically didn't happen. But according to the internet, Jude really, really likes tethering with all sorts of spirits, even with fans going so far as to state that it's a fetish of his.
  • With Lara looking at her hands and wondering why she killed Larson in Tomb Raider: Anniversary, people will only remember her just for that one scene and think she's full of Wangst whenever she kills someone. This is ignoring the fact that Larson is the only person she killed in the game and she mostly got over her killing by the end of the game.
  • Touhou Project has several:
    • Almost all Catch Phrases are actually not catchphrases due to them coming from a single occurrence, as there's limited amount of text in the actual games.
    • Cirno is indeed The Ditz, but ever since she was labeled "(9) Baka" in the 9th game's instruction manual, her stupidity has become her defining trait in fandom. Her other claim to fame is her "Icicle Fall" spellcard on Easy, which has a safe spot directly in front of her. This has led some to believe she is an easy boss, only to find out that on Normal and harder, she still has some pretty nasty attacks, and "Icicle Fall" on Normal doesn't have that safe spot anymore.
    • An even worse case from the same series is Mystia Lorelei. After defeating her in the eighth game's second stage, Yuyuko Saigyouji made a joke about having eaten her. Ever since then, fanon basically made her into the cast's emergency food ration (with Yuyuko being her most frequent predator), with plenty of eating and chicken (she's a bird girl) jokes at her expense. In short, a bird version of Mince.
    • Yuyuko herself would become known as a Big Eater because of this, as well as her comments about the game's events being a "wonderful midnight snack tour," with Flanderization taking her appetite to Extreme Omnivore levels. Aki Eda and ZUN turned Yuyuko's appetite into a Moment of Awesome when, at the end of Silent Sinner in Blue, Yuyuko prioritizes stealing a simple jug of Lunarian sake over advanced Lunarian technology and weaponry. It's too trivial for retaliatory action and can be consumed in a single sitting so it can never be recovered, but it perfectly broadcasts "We win."
    • There's also Keine, the unfortunate were-hakutaku who will forever be known for all the CAVED people left in her wake.
    • Meiling, the guard at the Scarlet Devil Mansion, is often portrayed as always sleeping on the job thanks to a few lines from the sixth game, despite various official media suggesting that she's actually a rather reliable, if not laid-back, worker.
    • Let's just say that Flandre Scarlet will never live some of her unpleasant traits and very light Cute and Psycho moments down and let the Memetic Psychopath page provide the rest.
  • Undertale:
    • In an early scene in the game, Sans takes the player out for lunch. During this scene, there's a moment where Sans offers you ketchup for your food (setting you up for a prank). If you decline the offer, Sans instead downs the whole bottle like it's soda or beer. This is the only time ketchup is ever brought up, he makes no comment about liking it, and given his personality, he may have only done it to troll you. Because of this joke, though, in fanworks he's about as associated with ketchup as Papyrus is with spaghetti, elevating it to a Trademark Favorite Food.
    • the fallen child/Chara will never live down a single comment where they complain about there being no chocolate in a fridge you inspect. This is exaggerated by the fandom as them having chocolate as a Trademark Favorite Food.
  • In the fandom, Tsukasa Sagawa of Yakuza 0 will never live down the offhanded, teasing implication he made to Majima that he once drank piss. Nor will Ryuji Goda live down his short career as the Bontan Hunter, stealing the pants off of high school bullies.
  • Apart from being the first FBI Director to be fired, William S. Sessions has a more niche realm of notoriety: if you went to an arcade in the late '80s and '90s, you couldn't come and go without happening across the "Winners Don't Use Drugs" screen during a random game's attract mode. And because his name appeared on the screens more often than not, particularly on games made before 1993, Sessions became the face of the gaming front for the War on Drugs.

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